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This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
Fuck off retard. Ask a better question.

Recommended tablets:

>Intuos 3
Best screenless tablet. Look for one on Craigslist or Ebay.
>Intuos 4, 5 & Pro
Also good options. Will burn through your nibs.
>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech, but a small 10.4" display area.
>Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9"
Best option for a display tablet.
>Galaxy Tab S7+/S8+
Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro
>One by Wacom - solid cheap option (not Wacom One)

>Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand
Poor build quality, lackluster pens, broken tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are. Also watch out, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/; they do a lot of samefagging and frequently hurl personal insults.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.

>Lenovo
Bad drawing performance because they're not designed with art in mind.

>iPads (brand new) - Bad value
>iMacs and Macbooks
Never buy this garbage under any circumstance. It's a locked ecosystem with rubbish hardware you can't upgrade.

Previous: >>6204466

>> No.6216270

How much is there to discuss? Why is there a general for this? There's only so much productive discussion before it devolves into pointless bitching and arguing.

>> No.6216272
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>>6216253
This is why you don't buy Huion/XP-Pen garbage.

>> No.6216286
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Reminder to ignore permabeg OP's opinions on tablets.

He has no idea what current tablets are like because he only uses second-hand old tablets.

>> No.6216290
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6216290

Review of 10 current tablets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaooGghYRL4

Tablets Featured in the Video:

Wacom Cintiq Pro 32
Huion Kamvas 24 4K
Wacom Cintiq Pro 16
XP-Pen Artist PRo 16 TP
Samsung Galaxy S8 Ultra
iPad Pro 12.9"
Samsung Galaxy S8
iPad Air 4th Gen
Wacom Intuos Pro Large
Xencelabs Pen Tablet Medium Bundle

>> No.6216291

>>6216290
>shilling youtube videos when the op specifically warns against it
Nope.

>> No.6216299

>>6216270
OP is a wacom/pleblet shill

>> No.6216303

>>6216291
ok OP

>> No.6216342

>>6216299
>t. Liu Zhao Bei

>> No.6216448
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Tablet survey results and link to the poll:
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>> No.6216502

Doing G*d's work OP.

>> No.6216589
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6216589

So this... is the power... of huion...

>> No.6216595

>>6216589
>polished turd

>> No.6216598

>>6216589
I KNEEL

>> No.6216604

>>6216272
>Get affordable huion kamvas instead of spending my monthly paycheck on overpriced wacom
>Do commissions
>Customers are happy with the work
>Literally zero (0) issues appear that you keep spamming about
>Get the worth of the tablet returned within a month
Stay mad wacom autist

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>>6216589
>Pandering to the shotafags over at the /cbsg/

>> No.6216610

>>6216604
A lot of professionals that have to buy their own equipment are using huion (and even xp pen sometimes)
Unless your employer pays for a cintiq or you're rich, there's not really a reason to get one

>> No.6216635

>>6216253
So I got a laptop and Huion Pro 16 2.5k. Turns out I can now paint laying in my bed covered in pillows. I've never felt so comfy painting, life will never be the same.
Glad I decided on 2.5k model instead of 4k - menus are already tiny at 100% scale, going 4k on 16 inch display is just a waste of technology. And it's power efficient enough to work straight off laptop without an additional power supply, which is great.
The drawing experience is somewhat better than my xp-pen pro 24 - no noticable wobble, the tilt works properly, etc. There's also no parallax, but I actually prefer to see more of the painting right under the tip. In general the drawing feels pretty much the same as Ipad pro 2021 that I have, which is surprisingly good. I honestly see no reason to to back to my old Intuos Pro now or even trying any of the cintiqs. Not even chink shilling.

>> No.6216664

>>6216635
why would you get a kamvas 16 if you already have a 24" and an ipad?
But yeah I definitely prefer the drawing experience of huion to xp pen too.

>> No.6216861

I want to switch to digital and I have two options:
I can either buy a Huion kamvas 13 from a friend or I can buy a semi new Galaxy Tab S8 from a family member. For a beginner, which would be better? The tab can give me mobility but is smaller (11' vs 13'). What do you guys recommend?

>> No.6216878

good paperlike screen protector for the iPad Pro 12.9" with Apple Pencil?

>> No.6216881

>>6216861
Idk what good drawing apps exist for the tab, but a 13" kamvas is pretty dogshit. What's your budget?

>> No.6216882

>>6216878
Paperlike
Elecom
Bellemond

Elecom makes several different protectors that feel a little different.

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>>6216589
No… this is

>> No.6216884

Is a non-Pro iPad with an Apple Pencil a good option for drawing?

>> No.6216900

>>6216882
Bellemond was already in my cart, thanks for the affirmation. Although apparently I'll be waiting a month for it...

>> No.6217056

>>6216253
>>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
>Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech, but a small 10.4" display area.
kinda wish i had bought the S7/S8 (or whatever they had at the time).
S6 lite is pretty slow and struggles with large files.
also the S-pen just doesn't feel right.
it feels like it needs to be calibrated, but that option literally is not available for the s6 lite.

>> No.6217061

>>6217056
also the way you can't use your fingers for gestures while the pen is close to the screen is stupid.

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Dial 2 is out boys

>> No.6217199

>>6216861
Get the tab, you'll be drawing more if you can draw anywhere

>> No.6217261 [DELETED] 

>>6217185
Nobody cares, Zhang.

>> No.6217267

>>6216664
Well Ipad turned out to be just a toy that I barely use, it's kind of useless for my client work to be honest. If I was a compulsive sketcher, I might've used it more I guess. I don't regret getting an Ipad, but objectively it was kind of a waste of money for me. Xp-pen 24" is totally usable and I'm ok with it, but I wanted something mobile to try out freelancing while traveling in the future. Laptop with 16" screen tablet is a full work station that can be fit and carried in my laptop bag.

>> No.6217271

>>6216884
From what I understand, as long as it supports the pencil the drawing experience will be the same. The only limitation is number of layers/size in procreate and perfomance in artstudio. Not sure how limiting this could be, probably depends on how you want to use the Ipad.

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>>6216604
found my old image I posted about the dead areas on my 22/24 inch huion monitor. overall unless you are right at the edge, its a non issue. but you are not at the edge when you draw,

tilt function does have a bit of wonkeyness a bit further in than what I have shown here, but these lines ware where the digitizer starts to not be 1:1 in a noticeable way.

>> No.6217308

>>6216610
if you comfortably make money off your art and your art alone, cintique is just a nice thing to have, it is the best, but the best is kind of not needed exactly.

I would love barel rotation personally, would FUCKING LOVE it, but its a nice to have not a requirement.

>> No.6217314

>>6216881
my 13 inch kamvas was pretty ok, it made me get the bigger one the following year due to how good it was and I could justify a larger purchase given knowing it works and is good.

>>6216861
depends, will you sketch in public more than you would draw at a computer?
do you have a relatively modern computer that doesn't choke when drawing lines on a relatively large canvas?

the tab will easily replace sketchbooks, and wont shit itself with drawing apps
but if you sit down at a pc to draw more, then yea,the portability will be useless, and with the kamvas you could also sculpt 3d which is SO much more fun when you have a screen tablet

>> No.6217321

>>6216884
fantastic option if you do sketchbooks stuff, it would essentially replace traditional mediums for all but plein air painting, and this may not be an issue given brightness, I have access to an older one, not sure hwo the newer ones fair but they seem to do better, and the one I have access to is useable.

>> No.6217360

>>6216253
Just get a ConceptD ezel laptop.

>> No.6217405

>>6217308
>cintique is just a nice thing to have, it is the best
They're pretty outdated at this point. Chink tablets caught up a while ago, the drawing experience is negligibly similar for less money. And cheaper cintiqs are same as or even worse than chink screen tablets in the same price range. Wacom needs to step up, but the only way at this point is to make their shit much cheaper. I'm making a living with my art and I'm doing fine, but it's just retarded to go for cintiq only because of the brand.

>> No.6217438

>>6217405
>Chink tablets caught up a while ago
Nah, they didn't you chinese idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

>> No.6217445 [DELETED] 

>>6217405
People go for cintiqs because they're better quality products that are less likely to encounter faults. Side by side Cintiq has CLEARLY better build quality and a much nicer feeling pen. You are a shill if you try to claim that isn't true.

>> No.6217450

>>6217271
The difference has to do with the screen. The iPad Pro has a laminated screen and the standard iPad doesn't, that means there's an air gap inside the screen that creates a small distance between the tip of the pencil and the screen.
I don't know if it's too noticeable. If anyone has any experience using the regular iPad it'd be welcome.

>> No.6217512

>>6217445
>much nicer feeling pen
Bullshit, both xp-pen and huion have pretty much wacom pen clones ever since they went battery free.
Those wacom/cintiq "updgrages" that you're talking about is not worth 2-3 times the cost. And they are outdated, enjoy a fucking fan noise from your screen tablet. And good luck spending 3k on a cintiq and then also encounter technical issues. I ditched wacom after years of jittery/staircase lines and constant driver issues with intuos 4 and intuos pro. This shit just didn't work properly with 2 of my computers.

>>6217438
Compare Cintiq 16 to Kamvas Pro 16 2.5k. It's even cheaper and doesn't have protective film that will be scratched in a couple of months of use. Cheaper cintiqs are completely retarded.

>> No.6217514

>>6217512
>Bullshit, both xp-pen and huion have pretty much wacom pen clones ever since they went battery free.
Now I know you're a shill dumbshit.

Chinese pens have a long protruding nib that always bends and wobbles. It's nowhere near as nice feeling as the firm, smaller Wacom nib.

>> No.6217518

>>6217512
>Bullshit
>fucking fan noise
>This shit
You should change your posting style at some point, Zhang. You just cannot shake the constant swearing and passive aggressive tone.

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>>6217512
Do not respond to the wacom shill.

>> No.6217548

>>6217525
He literally said "for a while now".
Also, all the same problems on chinese garbage persist. You chinamen were literally saying the exact same crap in 2019, only to be exposed.

You always peddle the marketing line "chink tablets have caught up to Wacom". You're just a stupid, dirty salesman; a worthless trash moron.

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>>6217514
>Chinese pens have a long protruding nib that always bends and wobbles
Look it up again, cunt.

>> No.6217552

>>6217549
>marketing image
>not even a real photo
What a stupid, embarrassing little idiot.

>> No.6217561

>>6217549
do
not
respond
to
the
wacom
shill

>> No.6217569

>>6216604
>>6216604
bought an Xppen last year, literally less than half the price of the cheapest wacom tablet, never had any of the problems listed here.
Well worth its value. I tried a cintiq on a convention, and it's really good, but just seems as a luxury item that you don't really need unless you have extra money to spend.

>> No.6217574

>>6217569
Did you ever manage to get the contrast level right on it? I fiddled with one for about an hour and nothing I did fixed the contrast.

>> No.6217587

>>6217518
Calling someone a chink shill and then getting surprised about agressive response. You really are stupid.

>>6217552
Look it up yourself, cunt. That huion's pen is the same tip lenght/stability as wacom's grip pen for intuos pro. And both are shorter than pen's tip for intuos 4 that I have. And it's not even a big deal for drawing experience.

>>6217561
Yeah, I better stop. They probably don't even own any tablet at all.

>> No.6217591

>>6217587
You're such an angsty little chinaman, aren't you Zhang?
By the way, you are 100% categorically wrong about pens. Chinese garbage absolutely still does have the long wobbly nib and you have zero evidence to the contrary.

>> No.6217606

You all are posting in a fake general.

>> No.6217608

>>6217574
the calibration what's good right off the box for me, just had to adjust the gamma a bit

>> No.6217622

>>6217549
To be fair that’s a relatively new pen and many Huion screenless tablets still uses the older pens that wobbles quite a bit

>> No.6217634

>>6217587
he has an intuos 3 his mom bought him at a yardsale, and only (poorly) draws floating loomis heads every so often.
see
>>6216286
just to see how fucking autistic he is.

>> No.6217756

Pretty funny to see the phrase "wacom shill" when there's actual chink bots working around the clock trying to get people to buy literally anything else

>> No.6217758

>>6217756
I would be extremely surprised if there were any actual shills here. I can't imagine a more worthless place to attempt to shill than 4chan.

>> No.6217784

>>6217758
also if anything, it almost looks like he's the only actual shill here lol, everybody here is simply saying to buy wacom only if you have the money and giving genuine advice, while he's shitting on anything that isn't wacom. I hope he's getting paid well at least.

>> No.6217793

>>6217784
anyone who militantly creates these threads and participates in the same inane arguments every time must be mentally ill

>> No.6217956

>>6217784
It's actually OP and a groupie fanboy of his.

A match made in heaven.

>> No.6218038

>>6217405
People go for cintiqs because they're better quality products that are less likely to encounter faults. Side by side Cintiq has CLEARLY better build quality and a much nicer feeling pen. You are a shill if you try to claim that isn't true.

>> No.6218044

>>6218038
tell me the last time you've used a kamvas (or even the cintiq you fellate on a daily basis).

>> No.6218131

>>6218038
Holy crap, you've made the same deleted post. An actual wacom shill bot apparently.

>> No.6218158

>>6218038

I have both XP-Pen Artist 15.6 and Intuos 5 medium, and the stylus feels way mushier on the intuos. Also way more misfired lines.

>> No.6218163 [DELETED] 

>>6218158
sure they are, Liu Zhang.

>> No.6218170

>>6218158
That's simply not true, why are you even lying?

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>>6218131
holy shit lmao

>> No.6218330

>>6218294
People go for cintiqs because they're better quality products that are less likely to encounter faults. Side by side Cintiq has CLEARLY better build quality and a much nicer feeling pen. You are a shill if you try to claim that isn't true.

>> No.6218357
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6218357

What if it's an AI developed by wacom to shill their products and shit on the competition?

>> No.6218460

>>6218357

> sees reposts
> things it's an "AI"

lmao

>> No.6218467

>>6218357
It’s just a mentally ill burger who has a hate boner for China

>> No.6218470

>>6218460
>exact same post over 2 years apart
I was giving op benefit of the doubt that he wasn't that much of a lifeless loser.

>> No.6218509

>>6218163

How would you know? You don't even use anything.

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6218568

I have an ipad pro 2020 11" atm and use it most days for drawing with procreate, occasionally getting tired of how small it feels ect and the disconnect from my desktop is a bit of a shitter also
So I'm thinking of getting a display tablet to use directly with my pc, what should I get?

>> No.6218583

>>6218568
If you’re pissing money, get a cintiq 24
If you want the best bang for your buck, get a kamvas 22 plus
If you don’t want something that big for some reason, 16 is about the smallest I would recommend personally.

>> No.6218779

>>6218583
People go for cintiqs because they're better quality products that are less likely to encounter faults. Side by side Cintiq has CLEARLY better build quality and a much nicer feeling pen. You are a shill if you try to claim that isn't true.

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>enter thread
>95% of the posts is chinese guy seething about OP again

>> No.6218790

>>6218583
>If you want the best bang for your buck, get a kamvas 22 plus
nah it's trash mate.

>> No.6218794

>>6218790
Wow, what a meaningful post with tons of information in it.

>> No.6218913

>>6218794
almost as little fucking information as >>6218583 had in it

>> No.6218922

Everyone in this post should be shot in the head without a warning

>> No.6218928

>>6218922
Everyone in this post should shoot semen into your mouth without warning

>> No.6218954

>>6218913
>cintiq 24
$2000-2500 + $500 proprietary stand + tax, 24" 4k etched glass display with 8192 levels of pressure sensitivy, 1000:1 contrast ratio, and 99% Adobe rgb
>4k kamvas 24
$1200 + tax + whatever standard vesa mount if you want, 24" 4k etched glass display with 8192 levels of pressure sensitivity, 1200:1 contrast ratio, 104% Adobe rgb
>kamvas 22 plus
$550 + tax + whatever standard vesa mount if you want, 22" 1080p etched glass display with 8192 levels of pressure sensitivity, 1200:1 contrast ratio, and 104% Adobe rgb

Basically the only real downside to a 22 plus is the resolution. In real world use, the 2" difference in screen real estate is negligible (and can be a plus depending on use case), and 1080p is adequate. While 2.5k or 4k would certainly be nice, people drew with 1080p for years and produced great work.
I got mine for $390 brand new with one of the frequent promotions offered on their tablets. For the price, it's easily the best option, and will be more than enough for 95+% of artists.

>> No.6218960

>>6218954
Such a desperate little chinaman lol.

>>6218913
This contains all the information you will ever need:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

Chinese crap will never be on the same level as iPads, Samsungs or Cintiqs because the pressure response sucks. They always suck at drawing with light pressure and often have this harsh condom tapering. This is basically chinese quality control in a nutshell.

>> No.6218967

Why is this guy trying so hard to sell Huions?

>> No.6218969

>>6218568
That new Huion Pro 16 2.5k is great. I'm assuming 22 version is also good. I would go lower than 1440p resolution screen.

>> No.6218979

>>6218969
>I wouldn't
I meant. Sorry for mistakes, I'm translating my messages from chinese and the tranlator in my shill office is wonky at times.

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>>6218960
>linking an AARON RUTTEN video
>unfuckingironically

holy god how fucking braindead do you have to be do this

just how fucking low has this board fallen that someone is UNIRONICALLY linking a MASTER COREL PAINTER AARON RUTTEN video

holy

fucking

damn

one of the most fucking pathetic things I have ever seen congratulations little shittyposter

>> No.6219034

Chinese sperg alert: >>6219023

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lmao I just wanted to know about tablets not cause ww3, this place is as bad as /iemg/
thanks for the replies I guess

>> No.6219057

>>6219034
>everyone who disagrees with me is Chang

>> No.6219065

>>6219034
I'm not even disagreeing with the bulk of your post (your stupid red hat racism aside) just that you're a stupid fucking underage cumsoomer that shouldn't be here you dumb little shit

>> No.6219076

>>6218038
>>6217405
take a look at >>6217306

thats the shit I deal with on my kamvas, on a cintiq I would not be dealing with that at all, it would just work.

this is what I talk about when I say niceties, I think the wacom driver also isn't reliant on pen and touch, so that's also a massive improvement.

what I said is more or less, wacom is the best, but is the best worth 1500+ on top of what huion costs?

and before its mentioned, any wacom sub 2000$ is fucking garbage that the chink shit has surpassed even before they brought out the sub 2000$ categories.

>> No.6219082

>>6219065
Sure thing, Zhang.

>> No.6219100

There should be GPU recommendation lists for machine training/AI purposes in the op.

>> No.6219159

>>6217306
>on my 22/24 inch huion monitor.
Which is it, a 22 or 24? This is a known issue for the 24 pro from I think 2019

>> No.6219194

>>6219054
just ignore the wacom shill. If you read posts and aren't braindead, you should be able to gather some useful information about which to buy.

>> No.6219255

>>6218967
I want wacom to step their game up instead of being overpriced shit akin to an apple product. They grew complacent because they were the industry standard for so long. Now other brands have caught up and even surpassed them in a few ways, and they're just riding on their name recognition alone to carry their products.

There are many such cases in the tech industry (apple vs everything else, intel vs amd, etc).

They're just as bad as apple with propriety bullshit.

>> No.6219343

>>6216253
I am interested in going digital, but I would like a tablet that is not limited to just drawing and can serve as a media consumption/mobile vidya/shitposting device too.
Currently I am trying to decide between a Samsung galaxy tab s8+ and an Ipad pro (2021) 11 inch version as their bigger brothers simply are too expensive for me.
The former option appears to be the more attractive one because of the bigger screen, expandable storage and an included pen, but in the end it still is an android device. Is it worth sacrificing these features for the superior software experience of apple or has the android situation improved enough to be worth considering?

>> No.6219353

>>6219343
>Ipad pro (2021) 11 inch version as their bigger brothers simply are too expensive for me.
Is there a reason you want a new model instead of just buying an older 12.9"? I promise you you won't notice any difference in a new ipad over a slightly older one, but you absolutely will notice a difference between an 11 and a 12.9.

>> No.6219393

>>6219353
The price difference with the previous generation is too small here when buying new. Would buying the previous generation 12.9 pro directly from apple for 900 eurobucks be a wise idea? It almost sounds too good to be true

>> No.6219395

>>6219393
forgot to mention that the 900 12.9 from apple is refurbished

>> No.6219424

>>6219393
>previous generation
4th generation pros are just 3rd generation pros with an upgraded camera

>> No.6219443

>>6219424
>>6219393
a12x vs m1 is completely irrelevant for how you're going to be using your ipad. For procreate/whatever drawing app and shitposting on 4chan, it will make no difference whatsoever.
People that pretend they NEED a 5th gen ipad to browse youtube remind me of kids that NEED an rtx 3090 for fortnite and minecraft.
Stop being a stupid conoomer and buy what will actually benefit you instead of jerking off to a spec sheet.

>> No.6219451

>>6219443
Why are you quoting me, sperg? I'm literally agreeing with you.

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6219489

There's an offer near me for a huion HS611 for £48 ($57.78, €56.83) which would be my first drawing tablet but it seems way too good to be true.
When I've seen people talk about recommended tablets overall in the past the price point is normally like $200 minimum but the specs are perfect for what I'd want and the reviews are generally glowing - even the long term ones where the only emerging issue was seemingly with the specific pen included with the tablet (despite what the filthy westoid says in the OP).

Is there something I'm missing here? Is it at the end of support or something? Is that a typical price point for the features offered and I'm just looking in the wrong places for alternative brands? Are the people who review drawing tablets online just incredibly out of touch from getting sent them for reviews? At the end of the day it's not so much money that I'd lose sleep over it if I got it wrong but I don't like to get scammed and I'd rather get it right the first time.

>> No.6219523

>>6219451
>>6219443
and yet you're both wrong and stupid, huh

>> No.6219537

>>6219523
>But MOOOOOM, I NEED the 3090 otherwise the kids at school will make fun of me!

>> No.6219564

>>6219424
>>6219443
Thanks anons, I don't necessarily need the newest on the market as long as it does what I want and can reliably do so for plenty of years in the future. I will think it over.

>> No.6219577
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6219577

Is this a good deal? Haven’t owned drawing a tablet in 11 years so not sure what to go for. Got big hands so is that a problem if you don’t have like an 22 screen? 16 inches seems pretty big still

>> No.6219630

>>6219564
I had a 1st gen and now a 3rd gen 12.9", both were capable of doing everything I needed. I used my 1st gen for procreate, watching videos, shitposting on 4chan, and playing genshit impact and wild rift. It handled all of that with no issues. I only upgraded to a 3rd gen for the 2nd gen pencil, and my 1st gen had a cracked screen from the previous owner.

>> No.6219639

>>6219577
cut a piece of paper to the dimensions of the tablet and see if that seems like a suitable size for you.
Remember that probably 1/3 of the screen will be taken up by palettes in whatever drawing program you use, and you'll only really be using the middle 2/3rds.

>> No.6219712

>>6219577

16 inches is quite large as it is. It should suffice.

>> No.6219713

>>6219159
im honestly not sure what inch it is, or how they decided to measure inches, like if they include bezzle or not... lets see here

kamvas 22
gs2201

>> No.6219717

>>6219713
you're kinda retarded, ain't ya anon?
it's always the screen size, no bezel
screen size is measured diagonally, fyi. you seem like kind of person that wouldn't even know that

>> No.6219724

>>6219577
personally I say fuck it and go for the actual monitors, not the pseudo tablets, its FAR nicer to have these things on arms to move into drawing position then put back when you just want it to be an auxiliary monitor.

big hands don't matter to much, honestly, you are mostly going to be drawing/painting in a 3x3 inch area in the center 90% of the time so size doesn't matter to much unless you have something like the cintiq 32 where you could legitimately use your shoulder to draw.

>>6219717
you have not dealt with screen/cheap screens often have you? they use to include bezel inside the dimensions of the screen, good brands didn't do that, but it muddied the waters then, hell no names will still do that if they have any bezel to speak of.

just like the pixel response time is bullshit
the contrast ratio is bullshit
the brightness is bullshit
the viewing angle is bullshit

every single number on that box/spec sheet is a fucking lie even from big brands besides shit they haven't figured out how to lie about yet.

as much as I don't like the op for this tread, huion is a chink brand and I put nothing passed them in how they market their shit, I like their shit, but I don't trust them.

>> No.6219734

>>6216253
>china le bad
Kek keep buying overpriced shit

>> No.6219751

>>6219489
hello?

>> No.6219762

>>6219734
overpriced shit that's still made in china*

>> No.6219768

>>6219751
hi
I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. How is that "way too good to be true"? Are you used to only seeing wacom's inflated prices?

>> No.6219788

>>6219768
>How is that "way too good to be true"? Are you used to only seeing wacom's inflated prices?
Pretty much because it's my first time buying a drawing tablet and I don't know any artfags IRL to ask what's reasonable or to tell how I'm getting fucked.

Basically: is it a reasonable price and is there some obvious missing feature (besides not being a graphics tablet) which I'm going to end up wanting in 2 years?

>> No.6219804

>>6219788
it's a bit small, which can be a plus or a minus depending on how you use it. that's about it. It's a fine entry level pen tablet.

>> No.6219805

>>6219630
>genshit impact
That happens to be the primary mobile game I want to play on it, I am sure that if that can handle that it can handle everything else I care about without any issues too.

>> No.6219807

>>6219804
Alright, thanks.

>> No.6219814

>>6219489
that's a good deal for a HS611. They're usually
around £65 where I'm from. I'd say go for itif you're interested.

to answer your question as to why it's so cheap, tablets have really come a long way
in the last few years and specs that used to be $200 minimum are just more readily available for less money like how cellphone techonolgy gets better overtime.

>> No.6219838

>>6219814
Thanks for the help. I guess there's a natural competition in the form of tablets which forces price competitiveness and innovation.

>> No.6219912

>>6219838
unless you're wacom. then you continue making basically the same product for 10 years but continue to charge 2-3x the price of all your competitors

>> No.6219989

I want to upgrade from screenless to one with a screen, but I use linux. Can anyone give me some tips for best compatibility?
I've been using a wacom cth-470 for like a decade now and linux compatibility is shit.

>> No.6220230

>>6218954
>104% Adobe rgb

>> No.6220238

>>6220230
140% sRGB = 104% adobe rgb

>> No.6220583

>>6220238

can someone explain to a fuckin noob what 104% adobe rgb / 140% sRGB means?

The display can produce more colors in the visible spectrum, but can the apps you're using actually use these colors?

sorry for big dumb

>> No.6220620

>>6219489
>>6219788
>>6219807

Ok, let me put it to you in a way you may understand. wacom patented their shit, and sat on their dicks not improving for a very VERY long time, especially in the non display category.

then along came the digitizer called uc-logic, while it was nowhere near as good as wacom, it was VERY useable even in the extremely shit tablet category, (20-50$ back when it was wacom or no name chink knock off days, where bamboos sold by wacom were not even art capable) and uc-logic just kept getting better and better

i'm not 100% sure, I believe my first huion about 7-10 years ago was uc-logic compatible or it used that digitizer tech, and these were the tablets that if you didn't care about pen tilt, were as good as intuos, when intuos was 350~$ for the medium's, and I think 50$ for it maybe 70$ I forget if it was on sale or not.

this was the gg moment for wacom in the non display tablet realm, because what is wacom going to do? I don't know any software that requires wacom drivers or it wont work anymore.

huion more or less has consistently made good if not great screenless tablete ever since, I would personally argue go with a bigger one because its just really nice to have a bigger area to draw, but I more or less started on what would be considered an intuos medium in size, as long as you don't go smaller its hard to go wrong.

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>>6220583
You'll never really have to understand color spaces as an artist.
https://en.tab-tv.com/?p=14528
The advertised numbers are also pretty much meaningless. I think cintiqs are the only monitors that are (supposed to be) pre calibrated from the factory.
Pic related are the numbers for a kamvas 22 plus after calibration using a monitor calibration tool.

>> No.6220638

>>6220629
>Pic related are the numbers for a kamvas 22 plus after calibration using a monitor calibration tool.
got to get some chinese shilling in there eh zhang?

>> No.6220644

>>6220638
Anon asked what 104% adobe rgb/140% sRGB meant. Those are the specs provided by huion. the picture I posted are the specs after proper calibration to show that their numbers are meaningless marketing tools. It's literally the opposite of shilling. Dumb motherfucker.

>> No.6220646

>>6220620
>long winded way of saying that huion is still worse than wacom despite 10 years of trying
gotcha

>> No.6220688

>>6220629

thanks for responding, so its all hocus pocus mumbojumbo, gotcha

>> No.6220696

>>6220688
basically higher number = wider color gamut. anything with 90% adobe rgb or 125% sRGB is considered a wide gamut monitor and is good for drawing/photography/whatever. You'll get more vibrant prints and drawings with a wider color gamut and a good printer.

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>>6216253
>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand
XP-Pen is japanese, though...? Not chinese? Doesn't that account for something?

>> No.6220742

>>6220732
XP-Pen is owned by Hanvon Ugee, which is based out of Shenzhen, China. You might be thinking of Xencelabs, which is comprised of mostly ex-wacom employees. But they're not japanese either, they're owned by Hanvon Ugee US, and are based out of Vancouver, Washington.

>> No.6220771

>>6220742
>You might be thinking of [...]
I'm actually not thinking of them. About a year ago I did some (quick) research and read that XP-Pen was founded in Japan, so I automatically assumed they made japanese-quality products. I based my decision of buying an XP-Pen Artist 12 Pro off of this info. But now I can see after digging a little deeper through google's shitty multiple layers of bullshit spittle that "In 2008 they established an office in Taiwan." (wikipedia) and what you just said about Shenzhen China.
I would say "Next time, I won't buy from them" but I don't see buying anything again as necessary unless some accident happens.

>> No.6220774

>>6217569
What model did you buy anon am thinking of buying one too getting into digital art.

>> No.6220788

>>6220771
xp pen displays are fine. don't listen to dumbfuck op. he doesn't even draw, and doesn't have a tablet made in the last 15 years.

>> No.6220817

>>6220788
Well, my display is actually flawed to be honest. When I tried to use the brightest grey gradients, it would display on my LG Monitor but not on my tablet display.

>> No.6220933

>>6220817
Did you ever calibrate it?

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>>6220933
What, you mean with the "put pen at these five points on the screen" tool that comes with the tablet's software? Or no, you must mean this little feature. Because it doesn't do the job. Is there anything else?

>> No.6221275

>>6220771
Everything comes from China you fucktard

>> No.6221299

>>6221002
>50 50 50 rgb
>default contrast
Yeah I don't think you ever calibrated the monitor's color/gamma/contrast/etc

>> No.6221354

why my wrist/hand gets numb when drawing on an angeled tablet?
didnt happen with my non display tab

>> No.6221371

>>6221275
Not Wacom, you filthy nigger.
>>6221299
checking in the "USER" bubble (to enable the RGB dials) and changing the settings on the dials only makes the screen look worse, nomatter where you go with it, whether it's 10 10 10 or 100 100 100

>> No.6221450

>>6221371
do i need to take a pic of the made in china sticker on my cintiq pro box you fucking mongoloid

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>>6221450

>> No.6221457

>>6220732
No, it's chinese. They have the exact same shit pen as Huion, the exact same cheap feeling plastic, the exact same fake chinese sales/fake marketing, etc.

Dong Zhang will rage as usual, but it's true.

>> No.6221459

>>6216253
whatabout xencelabs?

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6221463

>>6221456
not him but here's my old ass bamboo

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6221595

>>6221371
>Not Wacom, you filthy nigger.

do more drawing and less shilling and you'll make something of yourself.

>> No.6221619

>>6221354
Most likely ergonomics but I can't really comment without seeing a video of you drawing on your set up.

Maybe the bottom of your screen is too low (level, not incline), maybe you have to reach too far or it's too close, maybe your grip has changed, maybe the active area of the display is smaller than your old tablet you reverted to using more wrist actions than before.

>> No.6221693

>>6221371
>checking in the "USER" bubble (to enable the RGB dials) and changing the settings on the dials only makes the screen look worse, nomatter where you go with it, whether it's 10 10 10 or 100 100 100
You sound very retarded. It requires fine tuning with reference colors, not just blind guessing.
Either look up monitor settings other people have used/ICC profiled others have made, or use a piece of printer paper in natural light as a reference to adjust to white. Just Google how to calibrate monitor colors without a calibration tool.

>> No.6221695

>>6221457
>They have the exact same shit pen as Huion
No they don't.

>> No.6221748

>>6221693
use an iphone or ipad if you have one, apple devices have the best color accuracy from factory.

>> No.6221774

>>6221695
>t. idiot in denial
Lack of evidence on your end further proves me right.

>> No.6221777

Huion RTP-700 or Huion 10th Anniversary Inspiroy H610X, which is better?

>> No.6221809

>>6221777
although i already have a wacom intuos small, but its too small. should i buy One by Wacom Medium instead?

>> No.6222023

>>6221693
Does not work, faggot. Sliders don't do shit. Grey colors with RGB values of <22 or >233 do not show up. Conclusion: The tablet is a flawed product because of its flawed display. Would not recommend for a professional artist unless it is upgraded with a better software. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

>> No.6222065

>>6216253
Which tablet should I buy as a beginner?

>> No.6222132

>>6222023
>Grey colors with RGB values of <22 or >233 do not show up

when you don't know enough to realize how incompetent you are, so you start pointing fingers like a four year old.

>> No.6222156

>>6222023
>Sliders don't do shit.
sounds like you're just fucking retarded

>> No.6222171

>>6219712
>>6219639
>>6219724
Ty for all the advice anons

>> No.6222533

I'm looking at a intuos 3 and I'm tossed up between 6x11 and 9x12
6x11 fits my widescreen but 9x12 is bigger and therefore better ? Does it have to match the monitor ratio or can't I set the canvass ratio in paint to 4x3 and have it work perfectly ?
I've never used a tablet.

>> No.6222559

>>6222533
>intuos 3
why when newer and better tablets exist? Or do you think that a tablet made nearly 20 years ago is better than even the cheapest tablets on the market today?

>> No.6222591

>>6222559
The OP says it's the best, which I don't know if it's true but it's also both the cheapest and biggest I could find at 30 bong (used); Anything else around the same price is much smaller.

>> No.6222654

>>6221450
Not him but there is a difference between made in China and designed in Japan.

>> No.6222742

>>6222591
>The OP says it's the best
see
>>6216286

He hasn't used a tablet made in the last decade. He doesn't even draw except for an occasional poorly done floating loomis head. He's spent the last 3+ years just hating on anything that isn't wacom, and will call anyone that doesn't worship his beloved brand a chink shill.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with an intuos 3, but it's definitely outdated and literally any chink tablet made today will outperform it.

>> No.6222806

>>6222654
why are you insisting there's a difference between two unrelated things

>> No.6222814

>>6221777
>>6221809
any advice guys? plus are pen pressure tablets a meme?

>> No.6223009

>>6222814
tell us what research you've done thus far

>> No.6223048

soooo.....wacom one good or bad?

>> No.6223111
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>>6223048
It's lack luster.
Lower specs to grab the "budget" market.

Before I get accused for being a chinese shill, I love my wacom products, how ever I do not believe wacoms budget range (Wacom One or One by Wacom) to be of good value. You get more bang for your buck with an equally priced XP-Pen or Huion equivalent.

>> No.6223131

My kamvas 22 plus was delayed until Monday :^(

>> No.6223541

>>6223111
>You get more bang for your buck with an equally priced XP-Pen or Huion equivalent.
This is why you're a chinese shill, idiot.

This comprehensively explains why budget Wacom easily outclasses garbage like XP-Pen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

>> No.6223761

>>6223541
>the wacom shill invokes ancient history

>> No.6224516

>>6222742
>intuos 3, but it's definitely outdated and literally any chink tablet made today will outperform it.
oh, do elaborate chang. explain to me how your huion garbage "outperforms" an intuos 3. i hope you're not dumb enough to mention pressure levels.

>> No.6224535

>>6223111
how do you get more bang for your buck lol bigger screen size?

>> No.6224538

>>6222065
>>6221463
or similar entry-level tablets. if you like it great, if you don't, you didn't spend a lot.

>> No.6224543

>>6224535
bigger screen size, better color gamut, better contrast, etched glass (less parallax), wider viewing angle, better pen, better stand
chink brand tablets will always be better dollar for dollar than wacom.

>> No.6224570

>>6224543
and you will always be a chinese idiot.

>> No.6224577

>>6224543
>>6224570
I've used Wacom all my life and I don't trust anything they have outside of the Intuos Pros and Cintiq Pros.

>> No.6224628

>>6224570
>oh y-yeah? w-w-well you're... you're just a big d-dumbhead!

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>>6223131
this is what I get for not ordering through amazon :(

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:)

>> No.6224716

>>6224713
>drawn on a chinese made tablet
lol

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>>6224716

>> No.6224795

>>6224790
no wacom tablet is japanese made :)

>> No.6225037

>>6224543
better pen????????

>> No.6225061

>>6225037
yes, the wacom one pen is shit.

>> No.6225127

>>6224795
Is this autism. They are designed in Japan. The components they use are selected in Japan.

>> No.6225144

any tips to help reduce my intuos pro from eating my nibs like candy?

>> No.6225164

>>6225144
you using the smooth texture sheet?

>> No.6225176

>>6225164
no havent been able to find it in stock anywhere in my region it seems to be discontinued
thinking of just taping a sheet of paper over it or some generic screen protector shit and see if that helps

>> No.6225179

>>6225127
>The components they use are selected in Japan.
and made in china

>> No.6225205

anyone got a cintiq?

i've had the smaller cheap one for a bit now, but one thing that annoys me is that it tends to put random strokes on the screen that i don;t see until much later.
i'm assuming its whenever i alt tab, but it seems to happen periodically even when im on the same screen.

anyone dealt with this and know a work around or fix?

>> No.6225293

>>6225176
try ebay, thats where I bought my last one

>> No.6225854

Hello. I have Ipad pro 3rd gen. To draw, do I have to use programs on the tablet (like procreate) or can I use programs from my PC, using ipad as a monitor. If it's possible to use Ipad as extension of PC, how?

>> No.6225861

>>6225179
Chink like you think sweat shop slaves assembling parts is something to brag about. Everything you touch was created by the west. You just assembled it. You're bragging about being the west's slave labor.

>> No.6226101

>>6225861
>Everything you touch was created by the west.
so now you're claiming that the west created cintiq tablets? lol

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>>6225861

>> No.6226115

>>6225861
>>6226101
>>6226108
ur all chinks, im the only non-chink on this board rn

>> No.6226119

>>6226115
nuh uh, I'm not a chink, which makes YOU the chink.

>> No.6226231

>>6226119
> looks into mirror and sees cockroach
HOLY FUCK

>> No.6226314

I was wondering if I can use my huion kamvas 13 as a second monitor, leaving it on for so long can somehow damage it? Maybe burn-in or something?

>> No.6226432

>>6226314
I can't imagine what you're going to do with a 13" monitor, but yeah you can with no ill effect.

>> No.6226553

>>6226231
turks are okay in my book

>> No.6226776

/g/pcbg/ puts this shithole to shame
unhelpful bastards

>> No.6226828

>>6226776
OP was literally banned from there for shitting it up and came here to shit it up here instead.

>> No.6226837

>>6226432
Oh, I'll just leave it on with my music player and other simple stuff. Thanks!

>> No.6227721

>>6225861
based

>> No.6227826

just buy an ipad and stop talking about shitty wacoms

>> No.6227841

>>6227826
ill stop using wacoms when apple releases an ipad thats 24-27 inches, the ability to buy their pencils with different tip shapes, and when they release photoshop on it

>> No.6227843

>>6227841
>using photoshop to draw

>> No.6228043

>>6227843
He doesn't draw though

>> No.6228059

>>6227843
>>6228043
pyw

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>>6228059

>> No.6228131

>>6228063
Excellent.

>> No.6228159

>>6227843
> using photoshop to draw
> like every industry professional

>> No.6229272

VEIKK VK1200 or HUION KAMVAS 12 ? I can afford the two of them but amazon's shipping fees is asking me for 70$ more for the Huion and I can't afford that (the VEIKK doesn't have this and has free shipping too)

>> No.6229278

>>6229272
also it would be my first screen drawing tablet as I've been using digital drawing tablets for around 2 years

>> No.6229402

>>6228043
you dont draw though

>> No.6229529

>>6229402
But I do
Here are some drawings I've done on my phone

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>>6229529

>> No.6229627

>>6228159
>implying you're an industry professional
>implying anyone is retarded enough to use photoshop to draw

>> No.6230132

>>6228063
Galánta

>> No.6230150

>>6217061
it's actually pretty necessary, that's done on purpose
if the screen didn't reject touch while the pen was stroking, you would constantly be tapping it accidentally
If anything, i think the galaxy tabs really need a higher cutoff but I can see why that's not super realistic given the compact form factor

Apparently the cintiq pro models with touch had an issue where palm rejection wasn't working and it was a fucking nightmare, and I can imagine

>>6217056
The s-pen is notable for not being super great at drawing. Find a wacom one stylus on ebay or amazon, it's your best bet.
Personally I didn't think the s-pen was all that bad. Its sensitivity curve is super sharp towards the lower end, but you can adjust that in whatever program you're using. The real problem is the shape. it's just not comfortable drawing without that nice taper that keeps your digits and the tip of the pen in reference with one another.

That being said I have a tab s7+ so maybe the difference really is bigger than i think.

>> No.6230348

>>6229532
perma beg

>> No.6230357

>>6229627
>implying professional artists who work at professional art studios are retarded for using photoshop
>implying you know better than them

>> No.6230360

>>6224716
>>6224795
Stupid stupid Zhang, no one wants anything designed by a Chinaman. You fucks have the most sleeziest marketing methods, saying wing ding our shit is JUST like stuff made by actual countries you're not convincing anyone. You know all this is doing is fueling everyone's hatred of China? Again, China doing it's China thing and falling from it's rotten core, classic china. Good luck withdrawing money from the bank this week, LingLing, just like you couldn't for the past month!

>> No.6230814

>>6229532
>adds in the gallery app
chinkphone bros not like this...

>> No.6230837

>>6230814
It's the free version of ibis paint.

>> No.6230887

>>6230837
Ibis these nuts

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:)

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6231000

This is the minimum price needed for a fully featured iPad

>> No.6231031

>>6231000
who the fuck needs 2TB storage and cellular

>> No.6231033

>>6231031
I'm not buying another one for a decade

>> No.6231067

>>6231000
>for a fully featured iPad
so for a bunch of useless trash you won't use?
>>6231033
the best ipad and the worst ipad made today will both be extremely outdated in a decade.

>> No.6231071

>>6229272
bump

>> No.6231072

>>6231031
>being poor

>> No.6231074

>>6231072
>wasting money
this is how you become poor.

>> No.6231080

>>6231074
>becoming poor because of 2.7k

>> No.6231084

>>6231071
>>6229272
I have no idea who the fuck veikk is, but if you can't afford the kamvas, what's your question exactly?
Personally I'd opt for a larger used kamvas over a brand new midget sized display.

>> No.6231088

how is the wacom one?

>> No.6231090

Will the price for these things tank now that AI just does everything you could be doing on this but better?

>> No.6231095

>>6231084
I can afford the Kamvas base price, but the fees are criminal. I know Huion makes good stuff as I have a graphic tablet right now (H610PRO v2) but I want a screen tablet.
the sizes are the same for the Veikk and my Huion so I can get used to it quickly, but I want to know more about this new brand

>> No.6231097

>>6231080
>wasting money on features you dont need to impress strangers

>> No.6231102

>>6231033
>decade
kek

>> No.6231106

>>6231097
>impressing strangers with an ipad

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How big is too big in your opinion? I have this tablet and it's bit awkward to draw with and he pen has to be charged which is very annoying and really sucks my drive for drawing. Been thinking of getting an Intuos Pro M but I'll like the size.

Thoughts?

>> No.6231123

>>6231120
>but I'm not sure I'll like the size*
Fuck

>> No.6231124

>>6231106
>buying a 2.7k ipad for no reason

>> No.6231127

>>6231124
>needing a reason to buy something

>> No.6231133

>>6231127
>larping as a wealthy person on 4chan

>> No.6231134

>>6231133
>buying a 2.7k ipad makes you wealthy

>> No.6231137

>>6231134
> wasting money

>> No.6231139

>>6231137
>his finances are significantly affected by a 2.7k ipad purchase

>> No.6231140

>>6231080
$2700 here, $500 there, an extra $20 on food delivery, shit adds up retard-kun.

>> No.6231141

>>6231139
>pretends to have money to impress 4chan

>> No.6231144

>>6231140
Don't bother, the retard just wants to spew bullshit to be annoying.

>> No.6231145

>>6231141
>2.7k is impressive

>>6231140
I only spend money on tech

>> No.6231149

>>6231145
> wasting money

>> No.6231151

>>6231149
>buying things you want is a waste

>> No.6231152

>>6231033
Neither of those things will stop you from doing that
protip: unless you need it, avoid models with a cell antenna in them because you can't turn them off and they will eat battery even when you're not using it
What's worse, if you happen to live in an area with poor/no reception, the antenna will start drawing more in order to maintain the signal.

You can circumvent this with airplane mode. But then you lose bluetooth and wifi.
It's just not worth it unless you really need it. Sim models are a fucking meme. You will go everywhere with your phone anyways, and turning on tethering is like 2 taps.

>> No.6231154

>>6231151
>poor and larping on 4chan

>> No.6231155

>>6231095
veikk is just another random chinese brand. Likely no different from Gaomon, just with somehow even less name recognition.
Huion is kind of the """premium""" chinese brand, in that they offer actual competition to wacom with things like etched glass, similar contrast and color gamut, a 4k 24" display, etc.

>> No.6231160

>>6231151
you don't actually want any of the things you're paying extra for. You just have typical retarded consoomer brain that tells you more words and features = better.

>> No.6231161

>>6231160
The extra ram is only available with the 1TB version though

>> No.6231162

>>6231145
Copium

>> No.6231170

>>6231155
I'll get the veikk then

>> No.6231174

>>6231161
the extra ram is also completely irrelevant. Again, you're just thinking like typical consoomer that tells you more = better.
If you use 4gb doing anything you'll ever do, what difference will 8gb vs 16gb make?

>> No.6231180

>>6231120
Maybe take a look at huion giano 930l it is around the same size and it is also wireless + the pen feels awesome

>> No.6231213

>>6231180
Is the pen batteryless? I wish I could test out a tablet before buying.

>> No.6231219

>>6231213
yes. I don't know if any of the major tablet manufacturer's still make pens with batteries.

>> No.6231222

>>6231213
if you're buying a pen in 2022 that needs to be charged you are getting scammed

>> No.6231235

>>6231219
>>6231222
Good to know. What do you think of the size? My desk is admittedly on the slimmer side but I find it a bit awkward to use. Then again I read something about that the size of the drawing tablet should scale with the size of the monitor. How true is this?

>> No.6231246

>>6231235
I'm not sure what you're asking about with the size. the intuos pro m, your current tablet, and the 930l are all about the same size.

>> No.6231249

>>6231235
It's to prevent that disconnected feeling between your eyes and your hand. A smaller tablet will have the entire screen mapped to it, so if you make a line with your pen that is 2 inches long, on a 24 inch monitor it might show up as 6 inches long on the canvas.

It would only take a few hours to adjust and isn't that much of a problem, but normally people recommend going as big as you can. If you aren't sure, get a medium sized.

>> No.6231262

>>6231235
even the largest pen tablet will be smaller than most modern displays, unless you're using some tiny shit monitor. medium or large is best to not feel cramped.

>> No.6231279

>>6231246
>the intuos pro m, your current tablet, and the 930l are all about the same size.
From the dimensions I've seen online pro M seems quite a bit smaller than the other two. About 100mm less wide.
I'm mostly asking for opinions and experiences. Like what do you prefer using?

>>6231249
>>6231262
Makes sense. I'm using a 24 inch monitor right now, and I'll probably upgrade in a few months. The disconnect right now doesn't seem significant right now but I'd imagine that would change if I went smaller.

>> No.6231287

>>6231279
My bad, I was looking at the size instead of active area. Yeah, what you're currently using is about the same as a large intuos.

>> No.6231299

>>6231279
>The disconnect right now doesn't seem significant
I'm going to bed. Thanks for the help everyone >>6231287
I'll check that Giano out though.

>> No.6231310

>>6231306
new
>>6231306
new
>>6231306

Thread was made early to out-autism the autistic as fuck OP that took over making these a few years ago. He's on a weird crusade against Chinese tablets despite never using a modern one, and rarely drawing at all on the intuos 3 his mom bought him at a yard sale

>> No.6231346

Are screen tablets better than graphic tablets?

>> No.6231501

>>6231310
>early
Idiot.

>> No.6231734

What is better for sculpting, screen or screenless?

>> No.6231740 [DELETED] 

>>6216253

>> No.6231763

Actual new thread:

>>6231591
>>6231591
>>6231591

>>6231591
>>6231591
>>6231591

>>6231591
>>6231591
>>6231591

>> No.6232891

>2 early threads

>> No.6234018 [DELETED] 

test originallllll yes

>> No.6234330

>>6216253

>> No.6235377 [DELETED] 

>>6232891
Why?

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>> No.6237320

>>6216272
This.

>> No.6237375 [DELETED] 

>>6237320
Huion is the best.

>> No.6239112 [DELETED] 

>>6216253

>> No.6239116

>>6239112
>>6237320
>>6234330
>>6234018
Do you have some kind of mental deficiency?
I'll bring this thread to bump limit while sageing just to get you to stop being a fucking retard.

>> No.6239120 [DELETED] 

>>6239112
Basically, fucking kill yourself.

>> No.6239122 [DELETED] 

>>6239112
You worthless sack of shit

>> No.6239124

>>6239112
One more for good measure in case your 7 iq ass tries to be funny by deleting your post.

>> No.6239128 [DELETED] 

>>6239124
>>6239122
>>6239120
>>6239116
>Chinese sperg getting mad
lmao, worth it.

>> No.6239134

>>6239128
I draw with an intuos 4 you fucking retard.
Your goal really is to just be the least likeable person on /ic/, huh? Did someone here call your art shit several years ago and send you into a permanent downward spiral? Seek professional help.

>> No.6239135

>>6239134
Look at how mentally unstable you are. Such an angry little idiot lmfao.

>> No.6239139

This thread should be deleted and OP banned from posting. 90% of the thread is OP's attention whoring and clowning.

>> No.6239144

>>6239139
He sucks jannie cock to avoid bans. Only explanation for how he can make 6 threads that all get deleted and not get any sort of ban.

>> No.6239155

>>6239144
6 threads deleted and dozens of retarded racist comments deleted every day, faggot should be banned on-site.

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hey OP, eat some of this

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