/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:30:21 2022 No.6216016 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- The Art and Science of Drawing
- Perspective Drawing Handbook
- Vilppu Drawing Manual (and literally any other book made by Glenn Vilppu)
- Figure - Design and invention
- Pen and Ink
- The Natural Way To Draw

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR INTERMEDIATES:
- How to Draw by Scott Robertson
- How to Render by Scott Robertson
- Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter by James Gurney
- Morpho: Anatomy for Artists (and Literally any other book made by Michel Lauricella)
- Anatomy for Sculptors

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous thread:

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:31:36 2022 No.6216021 File: 1.47 MB, 772x1235, insect2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Forgoy previous thread link: >>6214150 Today's Challenge:

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:38:39 2022 No.6216048 bros, what are some good books for learning the anatomy of the face/head?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:41:02 2022 No.6216056 >>6216048 Anatomy for sculptors and an asaro head would be what you're looking for

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:44:29 2022 No.6216059 File: 42 KB, 600x600, 1659776396947097.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216016 my image! what a shame i didn't post this one earlier

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:47:17 2022 No.6216063 File: 681 KB, 2214x2694, ron.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some requests

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:47:54 2022 No.6216064 File: 846 KB, 1862x2664, Illustration.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216063

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:48:19 2022 No.6216065 >>6216063 >>6216064 I have a request for you. Stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:49:03 2022 No.6216068 File: 226 KB, 813x810, 9SgPtrm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216063 >>6216064

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:52:01 2022 No.6216073 >>6216016 >bringing back the discord sticky >removing the collaborative sticky some anon worked really hard on Now it's 100% confirmed you're a dead-set fuckwit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:53:34 2022 No.6216077 File: 111 KB, 729x651, thighsnake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i might like snakes too much. Since /fag/ is dead , i'll post here. Critique ples.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:54:26 2022 No.6216080 Faggot OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:54:54 2022 No.6216081 >>6216073 Heard an anon who was a mod on the discord had a fucking meltdown. Wouldn't surprise me if it was this guy. Didn't even link to the previous thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:55:58 2022 No.6216083 File: 1.77 MB, 2603x4500, bweh210.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:57:09 2022 No.6216089 Real new thread with non-troll OP: >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:58:43 2022 No.6216097 >>6216089 >spamming No thank you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:59:01 2022 No.6216099 File: 112 KB, 579x573, 1659819843870478.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So anywah, what is a good source to learn color theory from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 17:59:40 2022 No.6216101 >>6216097 fuck off, op

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:00:28 2022 No.6216105 >>6216099 marco bucci

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:01:40 2022 No.6216109 >>6216101 Stop flooding the catalog with /beg/ threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:03:13 2022 No.6216115 >>6216109 Delete your thread. Problem solved.

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:03:28 2022 No.6216116
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>>6216073
>collab sticky
nobody looks at this shit, i bet it was you who did it and now throws a babyrage
>discord sticky
literally who cares, do you even have discord? I don't and haven't had a problem

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:03:39 2022 No.6216117 >>6216115 The thread that was made first? The one that had a spiteful schizo make a duplicate of? No, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:04:26 2022 No.6216119 >>6216117 Then stop complaining

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:05:29 2022 No.6216121 File: 192 KB, 1536x2048, toothfairy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate design

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:05:59 2022 No.6216123 >>6216119 Stop spamming because you want one link in over another.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:06:33 2022 No.6216125 >>6216115 >makes his own thread >comes to this one to bitch You're actually fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:06:42 2022 No.6216126 >>6216123 cry more, faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:07:32 2022 No.6216130 >>6216125 u mad? stay mad

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:10:50 2022 No.6216136 >>6216130 I'm not the retard spamming threads. Nothing you say contributes anything meaningful to the thread, keep seething and fuck off back to your hole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:11:18 2022 No.6216139 >>6216136 still mad

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:12:15 2022 No.6216142 >>6216136 You know what you need to do to him and his thread. I did my part, now it's your turn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:14:24 2022 No.6216151 >>6216142 are you 12?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:15:00 2022 No.6216153 >>6216081 >mod on the discord had a fucking meltdown quick rundown?

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:15:24 2022 No.6216154

https://online-courses.club/2-sisters-2-methods-illustrations-by-xavier-houssin/

I tried to watch this but I don't know what is he doing exactly. What are some good tutorials that will teach me the process? I want to get rid of that feeling where I don't know what are the individual steps. I want to start colouring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:16:46 2022 No.6216158 File: 37 KB, 790x138, disc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216153

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:18:36 2022 No.6216162 File: 492 KB, 2610x4640, 1660587412853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216021 Couldn't really find the motivation to take it all too seriously so I ended up just fucking around. Haven't really enjoyed drawing today

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:18:52 2022 No.6216164 File: 43 KB, 752x440, 124214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216154 just watch anyone paint pictures with acrylics, real time no edits and you'll get it. It's all about shapes and places in which the colors are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:20:04 2022 No.6216173 >>6216154 >Xavier Houssin I'm pretty sure this guy's stuff is way ahead a beginners level. You're going to want to start with something smaller

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:20:46 2022 No.6216177 >>6216158 holy kek is it the fate of every shitcord mod to troon out?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:21:47 2022 No.6216182 Real thread lads: >>6216087 >>6216087 >>6216087

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:21:58 2022 No.6216183 >>6216173 I am absolutely terrible at learning. I am avoiding it. I just draw. Help. What should I do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:22:17 2022 No.6216184 File: 354 KB, 1589x2048, black side of moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216158 >>6216130 I don't really understand how bumping someone else's thread hurts them

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:23:09 2022 No.6216185 >>6216183 just draw my /ic/ NPC responses end there

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:24:06 2022 No.6216189 >>6216083 Based futa chad

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:24:31 2022 No.6216190 >>6216182 stop being a faggot

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:24:36 2022 No.6216191
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How do you know when to end making a piece? I sometimes can work on something for 5 hours and still not like it, and sometimes do scribbles like picrel under 10 minutes and call it a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:24:46 2022 No.6216192 File: 547 KB, 820x985, IMG_938.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the state of this thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:25:29 2022 No.6216196 File: 472 KB, 802x830, t-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:26:23 2022 No.6216198 >>6216191 You draft the plan for the piece, and set aside how many days it will take to complete. You complete it in that time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:26:30 2022 No.6216199 File: 326 KB, 680x870, 067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:27:00 2022 No.6216201 >>6216191 If you're starting out don't get too attached to a single drawing. It's good to make finished work but you make better progress when you move on to other drawings instead of getting stuck with one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:27:07 2022 No.6216202 File: 569 KB, 800x898, 1006-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:30:28 2022 No.6216211 >autist starts spamming because nobody wants to join his thread well now i'm definitely staying in this one

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:31:21 2022 No.6216216 File: 176 KB, 500x372, PEPE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216202 >>6216207 >>6216199 >>6216196 >>6216192 >>6216189 >>6216182 >>6216101 >>6216089 >>6216080 those posts do not speak well of you and your thread anon, you do realise?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:31:50 2022 No.6216218 Why there need to be multiple threads with same purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:31:53 2022 No.6216219 >>6216211 >well now i'm definitely staying in this one Yep, pretty much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:33:18 2022 No.6216226 >spamming literal shit now The absolute state of the schizo

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:33:30 2022 No.6216227 File: 360 KB, 776x1331, GUNTLORD1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to make good comics? This one is from /3/ for some reason i really like it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:33:46 2022 No.6216228 File: 39 KB, 512x640, 1660200766480169.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216065 No

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:34:50 2022 No.6216232 File: 494 KB, 776x1331, GUNTLORD2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216227 here second part. I really dig the texture and pacing, but can't deconstruct it. Some help?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:36:45 2022 No.6216235 >>6216227 >>6216232 Comics of that quality are an extremely difficult medium, Pen and Ink is core for comic making but you'd need to know most other fundamentals as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:38:09 2022 No.6216242 >>6216235 >pen and ink hmm can you use brushes for ink or will they glue together? I think i might try something like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:39:30 2022 No.6216246 >>6216242 Depends on which wash method you're using. If you are using a pen to lay a wet line and then using a brush wet with water to draw the ink out of the line, then you must use water-soluble ink.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:42:57 2022 No.6216251 >>6216232 that obvious 3d model of the face

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:45:18 2022 No.6216257 File: 54 KB, 682x910, Henry Moore Atom piece with graphite.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do you think of this guys? I tried replicating abstract form with shading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 18:59:36 2022 No.6216285 File: 659 KB, 1200x977, BaalAndAstarte_2160v.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216257 Steven Zapata's usually pencil render humans but occasionally he'll do abstract art. If you get good at forms you can make drawings like pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:05:04 2022 No.6216298 File: 38 KB, 500x471, 1649120892101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216285 >That much practice in texturing >Still can't do hands right nobody is gonna make it after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:05:52 2022 No.6216300 >>6216285 Looks like some kind of fiend from dnd

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:09:39 2022 No.6216306 >>6216164 https://online-courses.club/create-eye-catching-anime-illustrations-with-cool-detailed-characters/ I will try this tutorial. I can't find anything else. I want to move further than just messy sketches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:10:33 2022 No.6216308 HELLO TO BEG AND INT FRIENDS Remember to study art history! Developing your eye for aesthetics is just as important as developing your technique!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:12:45 2022 No.6216312 >>6216285 something about this dudes art is boring af, hes like pencil anthony jones

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:14:13 2022 No.6216316 >>6216308 Ah yes, because learning the same Dead White Male snoozefest paintings for Rich Dead White Males and their wives is soooo important when we have drawing pads and no fear of getting executed if we draw something that displeases the King. Moron

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:14:16 2022 No.6216317 >>6216312 some are alright, but most end up looking like some AI abomination creation

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:16:32 2022 No.6216324 File: 17 KB, 600x600, 1343081545454.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216316

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:16:44 2022 No.6216326 >>6216316 Kek @ the salt but seriously. You will develop your art infinitely by learning to appreciate the different compositional and color arrangement techniques of the great artists of the past.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:20:25 2022 No.6216334 File: 507 KB, 727x3456, oc threads.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216316 Never change d/ic/cord

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:21:26 2022 No.6216337 File: 184 KB, 800x1102, 1642958912945.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216326 This. The old masters are the reason our art is as good as it is today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:24:17 2022 No.6216341 >>6216337 This comment is extremely dated and will be entirely untrue within two years, how does it feel?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:24:33 2022 No.6216343 >>6216341 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:24:46 2022 No.6216344 File: 101 KB, 622x722, will i ever reach the greatness of old masters.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216337

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:30:49 2022 No.6216354 >>6216316 Study asian art history then you literal retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:32:14 2022 No.6216357 >>6216343 Bet it's the OpenAI shill trying to pivot discussion to his viral marketing bullshit again. Ignore, hide posts, and if the advertising gets overt enough, report it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:35:21 2022 No.6216365 >>6216343 >arguing with a complete and utter retard

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:38:54 2022 No.6216371

>>6216357
ai is too far behind in making actual illustrations in the same quality as an actual pro. It's literally a photobashing algorithm, people freaking out over it are usually baiting,
Reminds me of the self driving car fiasco, people thinking truckers are going to lose their jobs when in reality the technology is still decades behind, ai is not going to replace artists anytime too soon.

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:43:33 2022 No.6216375

>>6216371
>people freaking out over it are usually baiting
No, people "freaking out" over it are marketing it, whether because they are paid to or because they've seen others doing the same and got swept up in the meme. It's the same thing that happened with Discord, their marketing was literally paying people to spam advertising posts talking about how much better it was than Skype and company all over 4chan, Facebook and Reddit.
>ai is not going to replace artists anytime too soon.
AI is never going to replace artists the same way more artists don't replace artists, and it's probably not going to replace truckers for centuries either because of security concerns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:51:39 2022 No.6216384 File: 57 KB, 658x658, dororo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216375 I like your post anon, I agree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:52:42 2022 No.6216385 I am positive that if people thought the way about art that I do that nobody would ever make any progress in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 19:58:32 2022 No.6216393 >>6216375 >and it's probably not going to replace truckers for centuries either because of security concerns. gh- Damnit dude, keep your mouth shut! Don't you dare thwart my plans of highway robbery with zero effort and no casualties!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 20:01:40 2022 No.6216398 >>6216393 Just get a BB gun and start shooting down amazon drones until thefts cause them to be phased out entirely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 20:07:09 2022 No.6216406 >>6216207 It's a nice pose but there's something off about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 20:07:31 2022 No.6216407 >>6216207 massive head

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 20:10:31 2022 No.6216413 >>6216406 >but there's something off about it. the arms are short

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 21:13:12 2022 No.6216510 >>6216232 The manga of patrick star?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 22:51:11 2022 No.6216646 File: 179 KB, 603x835, bweh211wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:03:40 2022 No.6216661 >>6216646 A little rough with the linework but still looks really good. Also is that Raphtalia?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:09:28 2022 No.6216672 >>6216661 Yes. Took me three hours. Would you believe it? Something is wrong with me. One thumnail in same time sakimichan paints entire thing.

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:12:27 2022 No.6216676

>>6216672
Speed in drawings come with time spent practicing, honestly the only people that should worry about speed are /pro/s, you're clearly an /int/ so I wouldn't worry about how fast you are with making your drawings, I think it should be spent more on getting the accuracy down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:16:26 2022 No.6216680 >>6216232 So just adding comic tones to 3d models?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:18:46 2022 No.6216682 >>6216676 I am not practicing. I am filling requests for /d/. I don't want them to take this long. How could I practice to increase my speed? Do you know tutorials?

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:24:28 2022 No.6216685
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>>6216682
I hadn't thought about the issue of commissions/requests. I'm really sorry man but I'm still learning, I'm a very slow artist too, but I personally don't stress about how fast I am because my goal is accuracy, not speed.
I feel like this is a question you'd have to ask a pro or at least someone who consistently gets commissioned/requests.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:27:47 2022 No.6216690 >>6216682 it's hard to say how you can increase speed without seeing your process behind a piece

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:30:01 2022 No.6216693 >>6216121 rendering looks really good but I that head has a disfunctional bite which kinda ruins the spooks

Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:32:46 2022 No.6216699

>>6216690
Well, i only posted rough sketch, that's all i usually manage to do, so just start drawing and fix it until i know i cant improve it further. But after that i am so done with it, i just give up and start with something else, hoping this time i will be faster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:33:51 2022 No.6216701 >>6216699 I like your drawings anon, you're going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:38:22 2022 No.6216711 This guy really just samefagged all this shit because no one for the last year has responded to any of his drawings

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:39:24 2022 No.6216716 >>6216701 Well, i don't like them, because they are rough and unfinished.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:40:22 2022 No.6216721 >>6216711 who

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:52:46 2022 No.6216738 >>6216158 Would like to add that the admin tried to get a rando to "de-escalate the issue" and the dude went "Bro, you're the entire fucking problem." Prompting him to lose his shit as he aired the dirty laundry in the server

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:54:11 2022 No.6216739 >>6216738 >spoiler >on /ic/ Shitty smelly tourist

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:57:58 2022 No.6216742 >>6216716 >The general public decides your worth. Not you >T.Krenz fuck off with the self-crabbing. Only schizos do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 15 23:59:43 2022 No.6216744 >>6216739 UwU daddy thanks for noticing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 02:19:49 2022 No.6216898 >>6216742 >>The general public decides your worth. Not you Phew, I don't need to try then since the general public hates my shitty scribbles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 02:20:50 2022 No.6216899 What do you call a /beg/ who keeps starting and failing drawing year after year after year?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 02:25:10 2022 No.6216904 I only have a bunch of No. 2 mechanical pencils. Good enough?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 02:30:52 2022 No.6216909 >>6216899 permabeg

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 02:38:42 2022 No.6216919 >>6216909 Over twenty years a permabeg...

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 03:40:24 2022 No.6217004

>>6216682
I usually spend about 2-3 hours on drawthread requests (sometimes 4 if I experiment with a lot of new techniques; I think the longest was about five and a half hours, but that was including completely starting over on the rendering several times because I wasn't happy and wanted to try different things). Lately I've only been spending about an hour but I think the quality has noticeably dipped as a result.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 04:54:39 2022 No.6217070 >>6217004 What can I do to move from sketching to lineart/rendering faster?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 05:21:16 2022 No.6217098 File: 247 KB, 2048x1142, perdi mi celular.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any critics?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 05:33:05 2022 No.6217104 >>6217098 What's your goal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 05:33:32 2022 No.6217105 Stop responding to yourself please

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 05:36:35 2022 No.6217106 >>6216646 Bweh why aren't you a pro yet? You've been here for awhile and your skills are already good enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:07:57 2022 No.6217136 >>6217106 maybe he is and just shitposts on here

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:14:19 2022 No.6217145 File: 110 KB, 1600x1265, thumbs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Background thread is dead so I'm posting here. I tried doing some thumbnails as an exercise for learning landscapes, what do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:14:40 2022 No.6217147 File: 724 KB, 1865x1453, EAA1299F-D7F7-40ED-8F8E-48149E05A25E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to draw a raptor. More Jurassic park esk. How’s it lookin? I’m going to try painting using RJ Palmer as a reference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:15:28 2022 No.6217149 >>6217147 badass raptor

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:17:52 2022 No.6217154 >>6217070 Trust your sketch enough and wing it with lines. If you need the peace of mind of overworked sketch, that's on you

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:20:08 2022 No.6217156 >>6217145 Looking good to me. Some are more readable immediately, but all are recognizable. You going to do completed backgrounds?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:20:36 2022 No.6217157 >>6217145 they look kind of similar

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:33:45 2022 No.6217171 File: 29 KB, 640x480, Custom_Default_Pose_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is it normal to have a hard time coming up with poses? every time I design a character I just draw them in a default pose

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:34:58 2022 No.6217173 >>6217171 gesture

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:36:38 2022 No.6217174 >>6217171 Normal to some I guess. If you only designing the character without the outcome needing to look anything good, no problem with default poses. If the pose is meant to tell about the character's persona and status, might vary the pose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 06:52:43 2022 No.6217186 File: 941 KB, 3535x2085, 9A658490-3BD1-4B1F-A05D-4F2943ADE2C0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217149 Thank you. I’m doing shirt designs for a friend. Trying to mimic this style but not understanding it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 07:30:42 2022 No.6217212 >>6217156 >You going to do completed backgrounds? Yeah, I want to learn how to do landscapes similar to MTG lands. Im new to creating art so this is going to be a long journey, these are just my first steps

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 07:41:20 2022 No.6217216 File: 2.40 MB, 2760x3684, 1611975513406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217106 I don't know how to finish my works. I need help. i just want it to be clean and coloured but the process is too difficult for me to understand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 07:43:27 2022 No.6217217 File: 116 KB, 810x650, 9558ac22439ff799b67206a5b22955a4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217216 hm, i haven't posted finished artwork, i will just post nagu instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 07:50:26 2022 No.6217218 >>6216337 What that is so fucking beautiful

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 08:07:08 2022 No.6217226 >>6217216 just watch ina's streamings she has videos where she start and finish works just copy her

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 08:24:35 2022 No.6217235

>>6217226
I don't know what she does. When she does lineart i don't know how she manages to make it look like it does and then suddenly everything is orange and bam all colours blocked. No word, no explanation. I can't follow it. I need step by step tutorial for every stroke.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 09:17:07 2022 No.6217257 >>6216337 christ, how am i supposed to go from shitty anime sketches to something of this caliber in my lifetime

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 11:46:16 2022 No.6217353 >>6216063 >>6216064 I can't fap to this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 11:51:53 2022 No.6217359 File: 221 KB, 675x847, bweh211wip2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another 3 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 11:57:01 2022 No.6217364 >>6217359 See how much better that looks, just take your time. Only criticism I have is it could use a little more line variation and I can see the anti aliasing, you might want to increase the dpi or size of your brush for lineart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:03:53 2022 No.6217370 >>6217364 That's 4500x4500 600 dpi. How do I improve my line variation?

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:10:46 2022 No.6217378
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>>6217257
>christ, how am i supposed to go from shitty anime sketches to something of this caliber in my lifetime
Dedicate your entire life to the craft, and study under similar masters who will push you to the breaking point to improve.

Finding such a teacher is nearly impossible these days. Your best alternative, unironically, is to study art history closely. Find pieces that blow you away and truly, really, seriously try to emulate them. Not copy them, but push yourself to create similar levels of fidelity. You'll fail over and over, but with each failure, go back to your piece and close analyse the techniques you used to assemble it, and ask yourself "What new techniques might I need to develop to get that one next step closer to my goals?" Imagine those techniques, practice them til they are mastered.

Without studying art history, and I mean very closely studying the color, composition and aesthetics of great paintings you end up falling in love with, you will miss out on so much of your potential. Your personal sense for aesthetics will develop more slowly. Falling in love with beautiful art is like a yoke that pulls your skills forward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:11:12 2022 No.6217379 >>6217370 Don't worry about line variation. Practice blocking out colors and shading. Literally what anons here keep saying. Learn to become a xerox machine 1:1. Fuckin shamelessly copy pixiv artists. That's what the pros do

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:15:40 2022 No.6217384 >>>6217378 >Find pieces that blow you away and truly, really, seriously try to emulate them. >>6217378 >Fuckin shamelessly copy pixiv artists. That's what the pros do we on the frequency tonight

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:17:01 2022 No.6217386 File: 474 KB, 1000x2700, 1633166630574.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217370 >4500x4500 600 dpi. Holy shit really? Your brush size seems really thin, are you copying a style of lineart from another artist?

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:32:17 2022 No.6217399
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>>6217379
I need to learn the process for colouring first. I don't care about theory. The tool is what is causing me trouble. If I knew what they are doing and using I would love to copy that.
>>6217386
I don't know. 5 to 10. I don't think I tried to copy style yet. i am trying to learn how things are done. I hate hair and small details like eyes and finger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:56:54 2022 No.6217418 >>6217104 draw hentai and win money

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 12:57:51 2022 No.6217420 File: 215 KB, 2074x1640, thumbs2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did a few more thumbnails.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:32:57 2022 No.6217474 File: 269 KB, 1381x902, image_2022-08-16_103052903.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:34:24 2022 No.6217476 >>6217474 What the fuck is that hand

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:39:50 2022 No.6217485

>>6217476
Its the quintessential trannime poster. Face looks fine because that's the thing he's been grinding for months every day, everything else looks like shit and thinks the only way to make a dynamic or interesting pose is with the foreshortening meme. God I wish mods outright banned all trannime here

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:40:19 2022 No.6217487 >>6217485 >God I wish mods outright banned all trannime here based

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:47:34 2022 No.6217493 >>6217485 >hating anime Fucking newfaggot. He needs to ditch stylized drawings and work on fundies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:48:19 2022 No.6217496 >>6217493 hating anime is what everyone should do, a decade ago it was a bit more tolerable, now it's insufferable trash catered towards women and coomers

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:49:03 2022 No.6217497 i started practicing for a week then i didnt do anything for a week now i feel like i wasted all that week practice and feel demotivated

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:52:02 2022 No.6217501 >>6217485 We had the "westoid" schizo and now we have the "trannime" obsessed negro (you). Great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:52:24 2022 No.6217502 File: 45 KB, 800x450, predditor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217496 Anime website, you need to go the fuck back, predditors like yourself should neck themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 13:54:52 2022 No.6217504 >>6217502 typical tranny response that fails to recognise subcultures decades ago were not the same as they now are anime is bottom of the barrel shit catered to women that love fantasy and romance books and men that have zero social skills

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:01:37 2022 No.6217516 [DELETED]

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>>6217504
Sounds like you have shit taste, nothing compares to the absolute schlok that is your cartoons and jewlywood movies, they are the epitome of mindless shit. Fuck off back to discord or reddit you dumbfuck newfaggot.
>I don't like anime
>goes to an anime website
Fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:02:40 2022 No.6217519 >>6217516 >t. loves globohomo tranime

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:03:20 2022 No.6217522 File: 930 KB, 890x1113, 002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217519 >>6217516 >>6217504 >>6217502 >>6217501 >>6217497 >>6217496 >>6217493 >>6217487 >>6217485 >>6217476

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:04:51 2022 No.6217527 File: 529 KB, 707x1000, 1644090273449.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217519 >calls anime globohomo >watches jewlywood Fucking kek newfaggies

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:05:43 2022 No.6217534 >>6217527 you will never be a woman

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:05:57 2022 No.6217535 File: 472 KB, 802x830, t-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217527 >>6217519 >>6217516 >>6217504 >>6217502 >>6217501 >>6217497 >>6217496 >>6217493 >>6217487 >>6217485 >>6217476

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:06:10 2022 No.6217537 >>6217534 Thanks, I like being a man. You will never be allowed to groom children.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:06:45 2022 No.6217538 >>6217537 >implying groomers aren't the tranime fans

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:07:48 2022 No.6217540 File: 547 KB, 820x985, IMG_938.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217534 >>6217538 >>6217519 >>6217516 >>6217504 >>6217502 >>6217501 >>6217497 >>6217496 >>6217493 >>6217487 >>6217485 >>6217476

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:09:13 2022 No.6217544 >>6217540 Probably the only post of yours that can’t be reported under “not owners own artwork”

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:13:50 2022 No.6217555 >tries to spam the thread >only makes it in with three posts before getting deleted Kek, newfags are seething.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:19:40 2022 No.6217568 File: 137 KB, 361x885, bweh200.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who are the new schizos that don't draw?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:23:38 2022 No.6217580 >>6217378 >Heliogabalus Ah, the original creepy tranny discord admin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:27:01 2022 No.6217585 >>6217516 My theory is that trannime posters dont even like anime. They only like 2010 moeshit and hentai

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:28:12 2022 No.6217589 >>6216063 >>6216064 degenerating aside, how can you draw soft?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:28:16 2022 No.6217590 >>6217585 You're "theory" is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:29:55 2022 No.6217594 Trannime is collapsing this board

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:37:47 2022 No.6217609 >>6217485 Getting triggered by trannime artists who are better than you is pure cope. I hope you take your meds

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:39:33 2022 No.6217612 >>6217609 >Getting triggered by trannime artists who are better than you is pure cope yeah man im so jealous I cant be yet another trannime artist who draws thousands of cute anime girl heads in a void for hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:40:13 2022 No.6217614 anime will never be art

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:40:46 2022 No.6217616 Already is

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:40:55 2022 No.6217619 >>6217614 This is like saying "Jazz will never be music" Its only true because what the genre once created will never be achieved again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:41:06 2022 No.6217620 Anime is craft, not art

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:41:36 2022 No.6217621 >>6217614 draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 14:42:58 2022 No.6217626 >call tranime shit >instant (You)s

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 15:01:15 2022 No.6217658 >tranny janny seething over reality

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 15:03:08 2022 No.6217661 >>6217589 soft what?

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:03:44 2022 No.6217830
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Little croissant study
Self evaluation
Pros:
Captures the essence of the croissant
Not overworked
Somehow accurate colors on the croissant

Fails:
Failed to capture the likeness of that particular croissant
Failed to render shadows properly
Switched the hue of the shadows from warm to cold, didn't recognize properly the temperature

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:06:32 2022 No.6217834 >>6217830 Sorry for my autism but is that a real painting or is it digital?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:11:34 2022 No.6217839 >>6217834 It's digital

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:14:22 2022 No.6217841 >>6217839 Wow, I don't know what program you use but that genuinely looks like a real painting, good job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:15:26 2022 No.6217842 File: 251 KB, 444x1000, woomy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Im trying to find a shading style I like. More fun looking than what I used to do as In fell for the soft shading meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:22:42 2022 No.6217852 File: 978 KB, 1000x1000, hoy shiddd gunt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6217842 Just group several artists you like on youtube. See all their tutorials on shading and combine it into your own little monster of art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:36:30 2022 No.6217874 File: 3.55 MB, 4032x3024, 11E5BFA7-37F8-4B55-874E-A2B5D6F21E58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:40:24 2022 No.6217879 >>6217852 I've mostly just stolen cyberpunk edge runners for now but I think I've put it through a meat grinder Wonderful shirts by the way. True art right there

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 17:50:33 2022 No.6217897
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>>6217879
>shits
not mine, check out the unhinged guy in gunt thread over at /3/.
/3/ and IC should get merged because you can't really have good models unless you draw/sculpt good , for which you need art skills which can be developed digitally and so on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 18:11:04 2022 No.6217934 File: 291 KB, 965x929, bweh212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:03:31 2022 No.6217991 >>6217934 10/10 would rub her ears

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:06:35 2022 No.6217994
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Today's Hampton. Drawing digitally is becoming easier, I decided to use the HB pencil from Procreate this time, and to actually try and fix the big obvious mistakes first. If anyone has feedback it's appreciated, otherwise I hope it can inspire people to actually start drawing seeing how a new beginner draws worth than them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:09:19 2022 No.6217997 >>6217994 https://online-courses.club/dynamic-sketching-1-with-peter-han/

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:10:00 2022 No.6217999 >>6217997 I'm aware of Peter Han's course, thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:16:29 2022 No.6218009 >>6217830 thumbnail, and without reading the post at first, make this pic look like cancerous lungs on the operating table maybe because of the cyan color of the plate kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:30:51 2022 No.6218037 how come when I schizo out and make my own thread late it gets deleted?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:34:36 2022 No.6218043 File: 2.11 MB, 3024x4032, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How am I doing

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:36:18 2022 No.6218047 File: 1.58 MB, 4680x3132, BE180527-4827-47D4-B465-83448834E835.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216121 Spooky/10 >>6217098 Try to do less chicken scratching Today’s workload

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:38:24 2022 No.6218053 >>6218043 Honestly, it's a good effort. The right leg's femur side is too long and her face isn't constructed well, but it's not too bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:38:46 2022 No.6218055 File: 113 KB, 449x867, bweh213.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:49:15 2022 No.6218084 >>6218009 Lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 19:51:51 2022 No.6218088 >>6218053 How do I fix the face?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 20:00:00 2022 No.6218105 >>6218088 Study an asaro head and what the face looks like at different angles

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 20:01:14 2022 No.6218107 File: 704 KB, 2015x2645, IMG_20220816_145711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] was using KTD for a little bit, but have been inconsistent in my drawings for a while. (obviously) no idea what I'm doing or where to go

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 20:02:05 2022 No.6218109 File: 13 KB, 250x357, 372fb5f6735b007505c48b610e78c61c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218107 reference

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 20:06:50 2022 No.6218118 >>6218105 What do I do with this one I mean. Whats the biggest issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 20:16:30 2022 No.6218137 >>6218107 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG-WG6JeKNI

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:07:33 2022 No.6218203 >>6217830 Bad news, friend. It reads as a crab more than a croissant. Cute crab, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:17:45 2022 No.6218218 >>6218203 Lol it does look like a crabo, gonna keep practicing

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:27:55 2022 No.6218228 As a /beg/ who so far has exclusively focused on drawing, should I try to learn about coloring/painting as well? I'm interested in it but also I don't want to put too much on my plate when I can barely draw in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:28:08 2022 No.6218229 File: 49 KB, 850x1331, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drew this for a friend. Don't think he was too pleased with it. wish I was better at shading and painting n stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:35:41 2022 No.6218239 >>6218047 >chicken scratching what is that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:38:23 2022 No.6218244 File: 188 KB, 318x431, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been on chapter 4 of this book and I feel like it's a meme for a beginner to read especially since I don't plan on drawing irl stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:39:05 2022 No.6218245 >>6218228 You should be doing both or you’ll be playing catch up. >>6218229 This genuinely looks good. But you lighting is a little dull. There’s no strong light on the focus of the image. You could of had her bathed in moonlight.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:47:20 2022 No.6218258 >>6218251 lmao nice.

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:47:53 2022 No.6218261

>>6218239
Really "hairy" lines that go all over the place in tiny strokes.

>>6218229
Looks great imo. I do agree with the other guy, you missed a chance for some more dramatic/sharp backlighting (even if it's not realistic, it would look good). For what reason were you drawing it for your friend? I feel like there may be context for him not liking it beyond just being ungrateful, like if it's a character in a story he's writing it may not look like how he visualises the character or something, I dunno.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 21:53:57 2022 No.6218271 >>6218244 its not a meme

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:02:13 2022 No.6218285
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>>6218245
>>6218261
thanks anons. appreciate it.
Would upping the contrast help with interesting lighting?
Or is the position of the light itself is dull?
I did pick the standard "light from above in a slight angle" because I wasn't really confident to do something too crazy honestly

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:02:29 2022 No.6218286 >>6218244 its a meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:04:20 2022 No.6218290 >>6218244 >>6218286 Memes... The DNA of the SOUL

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:08:15 2022 No.6218298
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So I'm studying the Asaro heads more and I can understand how to draw the planes in red somewhat by going from the ear but how do you know how to place the green ones in relation to the other facial features?

Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:15:58 2022 No.6218315
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>>6218298
idk but
I think how the light will reflect from the source desu.
If the plane is perpendicular to the light it will be brightest, if it receives none than it will be darkest.
I assume(?) the green parts would be darker than the top parts, but also lighter than the shadow because it gets affected by reflected light and such
idk

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 22:16:54 2022 No.6218316 >>6218285 > Would upping the contrast help with interesting lighting? If you’re unsure about how to do this, then look up night lit images/art and study that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 23:19:51 2022 No.6218392 >>6218261 oh, ok.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 23:23:11 2022 No.6218396 >>6218298 Don't listen to that anon. Learn the planes of the skull. Just search a skull on sketchfab

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 23:26:33 2022 No.6218402 File: 22 KB, 718x712, 1660692394013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218251

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 16 23:31:10 2022 No.6218414 File: 1.36 MB, 937x1331, 00430F6B-1FB4-464B-9710-ED6AFA6E30D6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 00:21:22 2022 No.6218461

Depict it in 4d please:

The Sun

Constantly interacting with

The Gravity Field

Constantly interacting with

The Planets

To make them travel around

The Sun

Depict this in 4d please

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>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 00:53:19 2022 No.6218489 File: 1010 KB, 640x630, 4D solar system.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218461 You got it, chief.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 03:43:26 2022 No.6218630 File: 317 KB, 1000x1134, schizchan lewd2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What recommendations for books should I read? I've read loomis loosely but I don't apply it to my drawing (loomis ball squares and cubes)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 03:48:48 2022 No.6218633 >>6218630 Any book would probably do anon, maybe you should laid the dick drawing off for a while

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 05:56:27 2022 No.6218729 >>6218630 Literally anything that teaches fundamentals. Anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 07:06:14 2022 No.6218758 File: 468 KB, 846x767, 1631928302359.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6216207 what mindless copying does to a mf

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 07:53:56 2022 No.6218798 File: 187 KB, 907x819, bweh122.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218758

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 08:43:17 2022 No.6218841 >>6218758 Beg here That strand of hair would mean that her forhead is under it, right? That's why it doesn't make sense?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 08:50:46 2022 No.6218846 File: 491 KB, 846x767, Illustration2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218758 >>6218841 It's literally an alien.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:00:47 2022 No.6218851 File: 156 KB, 641x895, bweh215.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6218846 lol https://youtu.be/JbUGsbZWitw?t=419

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:02:41 2022 No.6218852 >>6218758 soul >>6218851 souless and generic

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:03:34 2022 No.6218853 >>6218852 nyot like this

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:08:02 2022 No.6218858 >>6218846 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:10:07 2022 No.6218860 >>6218846 hey anon apart from issues of proportions i think you did good, keep studying

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:20:28 2022 No.6218870 >>6218860 Wasn't me, I'm a 3rd party shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 09:55:04 2022 No.6218903 File: 2.79 MB, 4080x3072, PXL_20220817_094746841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did this still life. Pls help

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 10:08:08 2022 No.6218916 >>6218903 It's about rendering textures, don't be afraid to use more black, start with huge flat shapes and give them contours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 10:24:30 2022 No.6218937 File: 797 KB, 3800x2300, DMCTANK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 12:22:33 2022 No.6219040
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>>6218229
It is beautiful I love the whole atmosphere. One thing I would suggest to think about is that the moonlight shins on her but it can also shine on the building and the ground behind her, and you can use this to make lines to help frame her better.

I couldn't help myself adding some fine details but it was pretty fine as it were. Good job Anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 12:31:53 2022 No.6219047 >>6218402 this is great!!! please post more anon

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 12:34:39 2022 No.6219050
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Watched multiple digital painting tutorials and most suggested doing these two-value studies. So any critiques? Also, where do I go from here? My current plan is to practice a bunch of these gradually increasing the number of values and eventually moving to color.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 12:48:22 2022 No.6219067

>>6219050
go up to 4-5 values then start just rendering without value restrictions as prep for color
even doing color you shouldnt stop value studies as colors dont matter much compared to value, good value can carry shit color, good color cant carry shitty value

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 12:52:01 2022 No.6219072
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>>6216016
hello this is my very first image i drew since elementary school
a tree
my idea was to not use ereaser/undone and make it in as few strokes as possible
then i had idea to add ground, stones on ground, some grass and a river in background
grass sucks balls btw
ref images
https://www.happyfamilyart.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LittleTree2v2.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/W4R8FC/contour-drawing-stone-set-vector-illustration-different-rock-blocks-W4R8FC.jpg
now how do i color it and shade it ? using krita
also what should i draw next for training?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:15:46 2022 No.6219103 Heres the latest thing I made, I did this one without a real reference pic. Any thoughts? I think it turned out kinda cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:16:49 2022 No.6219106 File: 557 KB, 1140x1140, technodj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6219103 Uh here it actually is

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:25:17 2022 No.6219129 File: 177 KB, 671x1280, 2D43E8F3-B9EC-46D1-9B1B-87273C64ACEF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:47:28 2022 No.6219181 >>6219129 Whats the point of posting these if you never take a single step to finish them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:52:13 2022 No.6219192 >>6219181 Just to piss you retards off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 13:57:47 2022 No.6219209 >>6219192 Based

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 14:39:07 2022 No.6219281
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Does anyone have any advice on drawing or sketching detail with pen or pencil? Details such as muscle forms, fat, clothing folds, mechanical details, or armor.

I struggle to know where to put lines, how much of it to add, and how to convey soft and firm edges.

Img not mine, just an example of what I'm getting at.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 14:44:13 2022 No.6219296
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Picked up Hogarth. Drew this with no reference after reading half of his book.
It doesn't cover proportions, though. How do I know how long the legs are relative to the arms? How long are the arms?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 14:45:00 2022 No.6219299 kys esdeath schizo

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 14:49:28 2022 No.6219309 >>6219299 How about no?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:01:52 2022 No.6219333 >>6219299 Ah. Good ol’ /ic/ with its famed constructive criticism! No wonder everyone says to avoid this shithole.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:11:15 2022 No.6219349

>>6219296
Pull up a picture of a naked human body on google, measure the limbs and the major body parts, use one body part to measure other body parts, repeat this step , these measurements usually stay the same.

You should be using reference if you are a newbie, draw something with reference and then try drawing it without reference a second time.

>>6219281
It all comes down to the style you're going for, look for an artist you like and copy their pen style, think about why they placed those lines there, what were they trying to do/ communicate. but for the most part minimalism is better than too much details. For edges you can just turn your pencil on its side for soft edges, but you should think about what is the purpose of soft edges, the more questions you ask yourself the more answers you'll get.

>>6219106
Yeah its pretty cute, work on adding more form to the faces with soft shadows/ colors

>>6219050
Yeah that sounds pretty good, these studies are designed to train your brain to see shapes in images and simplify those shapes, because drawings are just

shapes through lines or blocked in values,
>>6218244
I went through this book and I love/hate it, some information is crucial

and others are just a waste of fucking time and brain energy/ could be better summarized

>>6218109
>>6218107

Work on your proportions of the face and the overall form of the face this comes off very flat, use values to block in the forms of the face

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:15:30 2022 No.6219357

>>6219349
>You should be using reference if you are a newbie, draw something with reference and then try drawing it without reference a second time.
Thanks anon, but I have been drawing with reference for awhile.
Hogarth Dynamic Figure Drawing emphasizes drawing WITHOUT a reference. It teaches you to draw a figure from any pose or angle without the need for an imagination or reference picture. In other words, it's perfect for me.
I picked up this book because it was very easy to read, but it doesn't cover proportions. I kind of base my proportions off how it looks for now, and did some research and apparently legs are 1.2x the length of arms but it's still not clicking because of the shoulder, hands, kneecaps, etc.
I think I will start with simple stand up poses first then work my way down.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:20:34 2022 No.6219364

>>6219281
Before you add in all the details First jut think in shades, a lot of thin lines blur together a darker shade anyways and that is how it will eventually read.. Make hard edges with firmer line and softer edges with either thinner lines or just erase parts of the lines. The details can come later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:21:35 2022 No.6219365 >>6219296 is that you Exdeath Anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:23:13 2022 No.6219367 >>6219365 Yeah been back for awhile now got any critique?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:34:45 2022 No.6219379 >>6219281 I know it's a cliché but you have to think in 3D not 2D. Use construction shapes if it's too hard to do mentally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:40:48 2022 No.6219385 Where does sovl come from if you’re not black?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:51:06 2022 No.6219406 >>6219296 Did you show this to your mother?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:52:13 2022 No.6219409 >>6219406 Yes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:55:20 2022 No.6219417 >>6219409 What did she say?

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 15:57:09 2022 No.6219423
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>>6219417
She said it looks good. She didn't like my next one though because she disliked the face, which I referenced off this. She's very picky with faces and expressions so hard to get useful criticism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 16:03:32 2022 No.6219438 >>6219192 I can respect that

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 16:22:19 2022 No.6219473 >>6218251 Is that chad ripperger?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 16:42:25 2022 No.6219509 >>6219385 It's stored in the luz bone.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 18:00:19 2022 No.6219706 >>6219296 Loomis. literally the first picture of the first chapter

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 18:17:19 2022 No.6219732 File: 3.06 MB, 2192x2192, 16 08 22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 18:25:41 2022 No.6219747
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I’m trying to learn anatomy and proportion all at the same time without properly learning perspective nor gesture.
Everything is a mess and in hate myself and I don’t know what to do

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 18:26:39 2022 No.6219750 >>6219732 Feels like generic trannime to me, is it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 18:51:49 2022 No.6219790 File: 3.47 MB, 1843x3754, 17 08 22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6219750 yes it's even more trannime than regular anime whenever it's generic or not is what i really want to know

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:07:51 2022 No.6219831

Permabeginner here, I tried the upside down Stravinsky exercise in Right Side Of The Brain and completely botched it. After 20 minutes of work I had a splitting headache and the position of the hands was completely wrong, as well as a bunch of other features not lining up. The book goes on and on about how you just swap brain modes and then make amazing drawings but this seems like total bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:13:41 2022 No.6219849 >>6216016 Loomis no longer recommended?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:17:50 2022 No.6219859 >>6219849 Nope. The faggot kept taking it out of the OP and will bitch every time it's added back in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:18:37 2022 No.6219865 >>6219831 if you had headache from just 20 minutes of studies does not it mean that you learning very quickly and book works?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:19:38 2022 No.6219870 >>6218860 meant for >>6218758

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:21:31 2022 No.6219876

>>6219865
It means I had a headache and was putting shit in the wrong places. As in it was completely fucked. Doing either painful or grindy exercises for so long fucking kills my desire to do art since I do it alone. I burnt out badly on drawabox, for instance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:26:13 2022 No.6219892 File: 85 KB, 680x680, f5753870a40ccef114a6cb88e7f48531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >watching an art course >it doesn't start off with the teacher showing their work to prove their credentials why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:35:01 2022 No.6219914 >>6219040 Thank anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:35:42 2022 No.6219915 >>6219892 Did you even pay for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:36:13 2022 No.6219916 >>6219915 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:39:16 2022 No.6219924 >>6219892 Who's the teacher?

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:40:55 2022 No.6219929

>>6219924
Its a mixed one, they have a bunch of teachers.
Some of them will go over their own work as examples, but a lot of them just go straight into teaching ideas.

But it seems like it should be standard practice for any art teacher to show an example of what they're capable of so the students can have confidence in what they're saying.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:46:44 2022 No.6219948
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>>6219747
I think you'll be fine, and probably gmi. Here's where I'm at so you can laugh, or at the very least see what an actual beginner looks like. I'm gonna be stuck drawing boxes in 2 point perspective until I die

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 19:50:21 2022 No.6219957 >>6219876 i was burning out from drawabox too however it was emotional burnt out from doing repetitive boring task each time i had "intellectual" burnt out from doing something exciting it kinda felt useful

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 20:18:30 2022 No.6220021 File: 739 KB, 3434x2329, DCC05253-F813-4DFC-8B2F-A83C822BB8C8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6219732 Thumbnail looks much better than full reso. Could be an upside. >>6219281 Goal lines Todays work. 47 minutes. Couldve done more

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 20:54:18 2022 No.6220119 File: 255 KB, 1103x969, doodle_17_08_22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any comments before I try refining this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 20:55:02 2022 No.6220120 >>6220119 Don't draw it trannime style

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:04:03 2022 No.6220146 >>6220120 Thank you. You criticism will totally help me improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:04:46 2022 No.6220149 >>6220146 No problem sis

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:05:36 2022 No.6220150

>>6219831
Did you recognise the einstein? Betty Edwards is full of shit about a lot of psychological points and many people (myself included) can process visual information about as easily upside-down as right-side-up. I can also read fluently upside-down for example. Just move on if something doesn't apply to you imo, since you already have access to the book.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:13:38 2022 No.6220166
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I'm sorry Professor Blook, i tried
Anyway, should i copy those? First time doing the realistic character drawings and i feel im nowhere near capable enough of doing my own thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:17:10 2022 No.6220171 >>6219349 These chain of replies are samefag esdeath kek.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:18:28 2022 No.6220175 I'm decent-ish at drawing facial details and portraiture, but I can't figure out how to make facial features proportionate or symmetrical Is this just something I'll learn from practice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:18:50 2022 No.6220176 >>6219831 snake oil book

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 21:22:44 2022 No.6220186 >>6220119 something feels off rotate it and look at it from afar

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:10:01 2022 No.6220301 >>6220171 fuck you

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:11:02 2022 No.6220303 >>6220176 why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:11:16 2022 No.6220304 >>6220119 Why should there be?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:12:03 2022 No.6220306 >>6219790 You really need to get a life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:12:16 2022 No.6220307 >>6220303 post her work

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:13:04 2022 No.6220309 >>6219750 retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:13:06 2022 No.6220310 >>6219849 Fun with a pencil is shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:14:06 2022 No.6220313 New thread: >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232 >>6220232

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:18:58 2022 No.6220327 >>6220313 >thread is still on page one What the fuck is this retard doing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:21:09 2022 No.6220337 >>6220327 This thread was also made when the previous thread was on page 1 but I didn't see you complaining here, retard.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:24:41 2022 No.6220352

When first starting off, is it better to do fast, shitty drawings, or take your time and try to make them look nice? I did my first upside down stravinsky recently, and it took me 3 days. I probably spent something like 6 to 8 hours on it in total. I feel like I learned from it, but mostly what I learned was how important it is to use lines to block out basic forms near the start, so that things don't wind up totally out of proportion later on, or fail to join together in the middle when copying something. I'm not talking about projecting 3D shapes onto the paper with perspective, just throwing down some basic 2D shapes and lines to keep the length and angle of the lines I'm copying in check. And at my current level, all I'm doing is copying stuff, whether it be photos, objects irl, or drawings.

I've heard several people say that the best way to improve is to do fast, freehand sketches that take ~15-30 minutes. To not bother with construction lines, and just start putting the actual lines you want to draw down on the paper. And also that you should be aiming to do several drawings each day, rather than potentially spending multiple days on a single drawing.

I am wondering, is this advice relevant to total beginners? The people I've heard say this are all much better at art than I am, and I am unsure if their advice is aimed at somebody who's been drawing for about a week. I really struggle to draw something quickly without making a complete mockery of it.

tl;dr - As pre-/beg/ aiming to improve, should I do many fast sketches each day, or take my time and try to make each sketch look decent?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:24:46 2022 No.6220353 >>6220337 Are you actually fucking retarded? >>6212342

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 22:45:50 2022 No.6220416

>>6220176
It kinda is, but it teaches you how to practice good values and use value maps for accurate life studies, which are important skills. That's why people tell you to skip all the pseudoscientific fluff and just do the exercises. The Stravinsky exercise is a classic in American art classes, but that's because the curricula are based on the book. IMO it's a non-productive exercise and a poor start for the book even though it's also been in the /ic/ sticky for a very long time.

Anonymous Wed Aug 17 23:20:56 2022 No.6220476
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>>6218937
Good job, she looks like she is tacked on though like a photoshop edit though. Also, she's entirely too small.
Pic of an M48 (not technically an M48 but just slightly modified hull and turret)
Look how tall these people are. (note these are asian men, so just imagine a inch or two away from Fio's height)

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can i please get a critique on this? i used https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/748864244319309620/ as a reference. i tried to study his style of folding of cloth but i think i failed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 18 14:30:21 2022 No.6221743 File: 165 KB, 1170x1192, E9D22B91-8D4B-4A5C-9D67-3728E75A6A6C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Latest piece

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 18 18:49:25 2022 No.6222159 >>6218489 That's not 4d, which direction is the sun moving?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 18 20:41:02 2022 No.6222412 File: 809 KB, 816x1122, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have no idea of what i'm doing... from 1 to 10 how close are my colors to being good?

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