/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6212933]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6198478

[Anonymous No.6212938]

copying is for ngmi's
just ask anyone who copies to post their work from imagination

[Anonymous No.6212942]

A Japanese guy on twitter posted this asking people to use it like a coloring book.

[Anonymous No.6212946]

>>6212942
So I spend like 2 hours coloring this and was the only one to reply to his post, But that was over a day ago and he hasn't responded.
I thought I did pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6212950]

>>6212942
I spent my childhood in seanigger land buying coloring books of dragonball z characters using Crayola crayons with my lunch money.

[Anonymous No.6212959]

>>6212946
Really bad.

[Anonymous No.6212974]

>>6212938
post work form people who only ever drew from imagination since beginning

[Anonymous No.6213052]

>>6212933
why is her right iris smaller than her left one?

[Anonymous No.6213107]

>>6213052
i just realized it kinda doesnt align
the right is slightly lower than the left eye

[Anonymous No.6213148]

any tutorials on how to properly use or trace a 3d model?

[Anonymous No.6213151]

>>6213148
use your hand to hold a stylus then draw lines over it
if you need more instruction than this, you probably only want to use 3D as an excuse to not learn how to draw

[Anonymous No.6213152]

>>6213148
>gibe tutorials on how to trace
is this the legendary pre-/beg/?

[Anonymous No.6213155]

>>6213151
>you probably only want to use 3D as an excuse to not learn how to draw
yeah pretty much
>>6213152
>is this the legendary pre-/beg/?
i guess so

[Anonymous No.6213157]

>>6213155
can you tell me how to sharpen a pencil man I don't know how people do it

[Anonymous No.6213159]

>>6213157
>can you tell me how to sharpen a pencil man
sharpening a man made of pencil is kinda complicated

[Anonymous No.6213177]

Started to learn how to draw cloth and folds based on the PIN2D vids shared some generals back.

[Anonymous No.6213180]

>>6213177
the constrictions need to actually be tight. so at the knots they gotta be more concave

[Anonymous No.6213528]

might be useful to some anons
>https://youtu.be/099ImeBZlM0

[Anonymous No.6213596]

To any of you that started drawing because of anime, Where do you Start? What course do you guys took?

[Anonymous No.6213730]

>>6213596
>Where do you Start? What course do you guys took?
DrawAbox...yep, I did the 250 box challenge, and yes, was a waste of time.
You will learn more taking the krenz/erik olson perspective course.
Also learn observations skills aka being able to copy 1:1, so you wont waste a couple years like me...

[Anonymous No.6213760]

>>6213730
At least you learned how to freehand boxes in three point perspective, right?

[Anonymous No.6213801]

>>6213148
Learn how to draw first, there's nothing to teach with tracing, there's a lot to learn while doing it, but if you suck it will look like shiet

[Anonymous No.6214015]

Loomis heads are ugly bastards...
Is this how you're meant to have fun with a pencil!?

[Anonymous No.6214022]

>>6213760
Not him, but nope. I didn't get very far before burning out. On the bright side I can now doodle badly proportioned boxes for fun!

[Anonymous No.6214147]

>>6212933
whats the source?even yandex dont know where this from

[Anonymous No.6214181]

>>6214147
OP image? previous thread

[Anonymous No.6214576]

>>6213177
Try moderndayjames drapery videos, pic is my attempts at copying and making slight modifications.

[Anonymous No.6214600]

>>6214015
If you actually read the book you'd know that Loomis himself says that drawing cute faces is hard and shouldn't be attempted by begginers, learn the fundies until you can apply them for what you want to draw.

[Anonymous No.6214683]

>>6213528
neat, didn't realize he had a channel

[Anonymous No.6214691]

>>6212974
don't reply to low effort bait, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6214737]

>>6214576
This looks good too, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6214764]

Begging for any good answers. How do they make lineart such as this? Clearly it’s digital, but do you have any idea of what brush, or techniques they might be using? It’s so uniform, but everything is so impossibly crisp and smooth to capture with hand without undoing a bajillion times. I’ve tried every ink brush in procreate to no avail.

Or is it some super hyper top-secret nippon anime CIA brush passed down since the dawn of time?

[Anonymous No.6214767]

And I know we’re all tired of the “hurr how do lineart” questions, but I’ve made some genuine attempts at replicating that and can’t quite get it. My best guess is it’s a combination of technique and line arcing, but I’m not sure.

[Anonymous No.6214783]

Although in other art such as this it’s easier to see the refined human strokes and identify this as a custom brush with slight variable line weights.

[Anonymous No.6214857]

>>6214764
>technique
draw a stabilized line, ctrl+z as many times as needed. I don't see what's so complex about that. Here's my attempt at a copy.

[Anonymous No.6214859]

>>6214764
A soft round brush that doesn't change in pressure.
Then just use the bucket to fill in the colors you want and pick a colder greyish tone for the shading.

[Anonymous No.6214865]

>>6214857
>That right nipple

[Anonymous No.6214876]

>>6214865
You don’t have a right nipple?

[Anonymous No.6214945]

>>6214857
What brush did you use to outline there? Especially on the hair and jacket. I really like that
I don't think it's what the other anon was asking for with a flat brush, since that looks kinda transparent and it works with pressure?

[Anonymous No.6214949]

>>6214945
its literally in the screenshot retard
but using your eyes and brain is too much to ask from permabegs who always ask for brushes especially for such simple things

[Anonymous No.6214958]

>>6214857
Wow you’re right. I made a mock-up brush and got that same style 1:1. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6214974]

>>6214949
My bad I thought it was a different one you were referring to there since the other anon was talking about flat lines but those have pressure sens and what looks like opacity maybe?That's all the settings under property? Will try this out when I'm home thanks.

[Anonymous No.6215037]

Drawing with form just means drawing with high fov right?

[Anonymous No.6215129]

how to get more traffic on pixiv

do they promote me more if i pay for premium

[Anonymous No.6215136]

>>6215129
draw what is popular and use tags
>do they promote me more if i pay for premium
no lol

[Anonymous No.6215145]

>>6212933
How is this copy I'm doing look so far?

[Anonymous No.6215155]

>>6213596
I just used random how to videos on YouTube that had art that looked good to me. For very first starting off it's good to just get in there and draw anything. Even if it's terrible and completely wrong.

[Anonymous No.6215156]

>>6215145
Really good, Only think is to fix the right cheek where it looks rounder and move the hair line up a bit if you really wanted.

[Anonymous No.6215160]

>>6214600
I'm saying that ugly bastards have loomis faces. Look at those cheeks. 100% Loomis. How am I supposed to draw his crap knowing that?

[Anonymous No.6215162]

>>6215160
There is nothing wrong with ugly bastards dude. Just ask your mom.

[Anonymous No.6215165]

>>6215162
>There is nothing wrong with ugly bastards dude
Kill yourself, my man.

[Anonymous No.6215234]

Draw a sexy box with legs.

[Anonymous No.6215340]

>>6215156
How is this?

[Anonymous No.6215663]

Holy shit I shit myself on this one, feel free to correct, laugh at it or whatever. The perspective and clothing fucked me up bad.

[Anonymous No.6215666]

>>6215663

That's not too bad, lowering the head and making eyes smaller alone will have a large correcting effect

[Anonymous No.6215933]

>>6215663

[Anonymous No.6215999]

anyone got that anime nose types picture?

[Anonymous No.6216022]

>>6215999
this?

[Anonymous No.6216044]

>>6216022
the one that was made by some guy online
it's been circulating a lot the past while, and it's got even more noses than that

[Anonymous No.6216082]

>>6215999
>>6216044
this one?

[Anonymous No.6216172]

>>6216082
yes!
you are a blessed man!

[Anonymous No.6216468]

Fuck. I can't render for shit and i feel like I can't do it.

Can you point me towards some nice anime rendering tutorials?

[Anonymous No.6216470]

https://twitter.com/miku_emori/status/1559209176429015040
is he right?

[Anonymous No.6216483]

>>6216470
Yes, otherwise you just remain a forever bitter box and plant renderer from /ic/

[Anonymous No.6216506]

>>6216470
He was right before dall-e but now it's just panicked cope. anime artists especially, I bet AI could literally make that exact image without a shred of emotion. The future is Indian and Californian

[Anonymous No.6216507]

>>6216506
A good morning to all sirs

[Anonymous No.6216509]

>>6216468
it's okay, anon.
take it easy, learn what the problem is and fix it.
learn fundies

[Anonymous No.6216518]

>>6216509
or wait like a year and just use an app to do it

[Anonymous No.6216559]

>>6216509
The problem is that I don't know the actual technique for the highlights and shit and end up just rendering everything with a hard brush and smudge.

And I would like to see how somebody good does shiny clothes and skin.

[Anonymous No.6216609]

When it comes to drawing primarily from imagination, can you see what you're trying to draw before you put any lines down? Say if you're drawing a face, do you see the entire face at once or do you split it up and try to visualize an eye first, then other eye, then nose, etc.? I'd just like to know what different people's mental process is.


Do you perhaps see it in your mind as you're making lines, intuitively? Is it a whole or in parts?

[Anonymous No.6216641]

>>6216609
I don't see things very clearly.
I either see the whole picture rather roughly or focus on one part of it but clearly.

Let's say I can either imagine an action pose, or a face but not both in the same time

[Anonymous No.6217063]

>>6216468
something like this?

[Anonymous No.6217066]

been studying

[Anonymous No.6217076]

>>6217066
rubics cube-chan

[Anonymous No.6217082]

i did a copy!
also beg question: how do you grind basic forms such as cubes, cilinders...? can i just copy sketchfab 3d models? or is there an appropiate way? maybe books recommendations? thank you

[Anonymous No.6217086]

>>6217076
I was really feeling the form

[Anonymous No.6217090]

studies from today in red. stuff in black i drew from imagination afterwards.

Hair is still an issue, feel like I made some progress on it today. and obviously eyes still beat my ass, think i've made peace with that always being the case though.

[Anonymous No.6217093]

I just noticed Krenz is Chinese, not Japanese.
You fooled me, /asg/. You fuckers fooled me.
As if I would EVER trust a chink. FUCK YOUUUU AND FUCK YOUR THREAADS

[Anonymous No.6217097]

>copying

[Anonymous No.6217099]

>>6217093
>he doesnt know his fav anime series were almost all outsourced to chinese labour camps

[Anonymous No.6217246]

that one guy still copying lines?

[Anonymous No.6217286]

>>6217063
Awesome dude I lost that pick a while ago and was looking for it.

If you got more I'd love more.

[Anonymous No.6217409]

>>6217286
don't overthink it—a shiny material reflects a lot of light and color from its environment

[Anonymous No.6217436]

I constantly struggle with both choosing a chin shape and after that consistently managing to draw that chin shape. Why are chins so difficult?

[Anonymous No.6217466]

I sketch this

[Anonymous No.6217517]

>>6217436
maybe you're a chinlet

[Anonymous No.6217814]

>>6217093

???

Taiwan isn't China breh

[Anonymous No.6217816]

>>6217093
Make a deep breath before i tell you that fkey is chinese too

[Anonymous No.6217818]

>>6217816
Who the fuck is fkey?

[Anonymous No.6217819]

>>6217818
YOU MOTEHRFUCKERS LIED TO ME AGAIN FUUUUCK THREAD HIDDEN

[Anonymous No.6217987]

>>6217090
i really like these anon, do you have a blog? your stuff looks so nice and three dimensional, my favorite is bottom left girl

[Anonymous No.6218241]

>>6217099
>he wants to draw like a team of animators instead of his favorite mangaka

[Anonymous No.6218318]

i hate-love drawing so fucking much anons....

[Anonymous No.6218321]

>>6217987
thanks anon. bottom left is a copy of this great artist:
https://twitter.com/jusjusojus

my blog:
https://twitter.com/8hoursjunksleep

[Anonymous No.6218526]

>>6217093
>Chinese
Taiwan is a country anon...
btw, Yoneyama Mai is half taiwanese

[Anonymous No.6218640]

>>6217090
same again. studies in red. drawings from imagination in black. did the booba one after the studies. the other 2 i did warming up

[Anonymous No.6218651]

>>6216468
I was not sure if to post this here as the /salt/ general won't let me, but I see you're a man of culture as well.

Anything looking way too off? 6AM here, after corrections I'll render it tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6218659]

>>6218241
>he wants to draw close up of anime face for the 900 million times instead of dynamic scenes

[Anonymous No.6218667]

>>6218659
>his favorite mangaka only draws close ups of anime faces instead of dynamic scenes

[Anonymous No.6218691]

>>6218667
>he doesnt realize all manga contains mostly close ups or medium shots with the occasional long shot
>he doesnt study from cinematography where countless mangakas stole, I mean, were "inspired" by.

[Anonymous No.6218732]

OL

[Anonymous No.6218746]

>>6217097
what is the point of this post?

[Anonymous No.6218747]

studying modare. Have not watched his coloso course yet. Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.6218752]

>>6218747
>cockroach antenna
disgusting

[Anonymous No.6218900]

How do make eyes look 3d like this while still being 2d
also how would you do more extreme anglesfor this type or artstyle

[Anonymous No.6219099]

>>6216468
Lol reifag is that you
You still draw the way you did in 2015, worse even, lmaoooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.6219123]

>>6218752
>disgusting
Glad you secretly like it, crab.

[Anonymous No.6219421]

trying to draw ganyu, sitting poses are a bitch

[Anonymous No.6219426]

>>6218732
Hey, what is this study about exactly? It looks like a bunch of keyframes focusing on the speed output. Very interesting, and with plenty of soul. I'd like to get to the point where I can get rid of my sperg genes that don't allow me to draw messy and instead spend too much time on details none but another autist is gonna notice. You seem to have mastered it. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.6219720]

>>6217090
>today in red
It's a name of anime your ref from? I can't find it on MAL.

[Anonymous No.6219756]

>>6219720
oh lol, sorry if that wasn't clear.
I meant the stuff I drew in red are studies. They're mainly the personal work of this animator: https://twitter.com/jusjusojus

there's also a kanna from maid dragon

[Anonymous No.6219866]

>>6219426
i wanted to make something like this, so i picked some poses from this video https://youtu.be/zLpHLcsSIik
The best advice i can give you is to not worry about connecting the lines, when i stopped doing that it really helped with the look of my sketches

[Anonymous No.6220069]

>>6218900
i can see where you're trying to get to, it's just a thing about perspective, the eyes kinda warp when theyre further away or something... but it definetly has to do with perspective, nice trips btw

[Anonymous No.6220118]

Why is anime head construction so hard?

[Anonymous No.6220145]

>>6220118
Only hard items on your 3/4 ref is lips and nose. But very few anime lovers like lips and noses so whatever. Also there is some left eye trouble. It's shifted up and rotated to 30 deg CCW.

[Anonymous No.6220201]

>>6220118
seeing by your drawing, you should stop focusing on making entire pieces and coloring them and should instead focus more on only getting the proportions right, ALSO focusing on the construcion of the head, start copying and deconstructing other artists works, it works wonders

[Anonymous No.6220211]

I wish I could draw cute girls with cool weapons like this.

[Anonymous No.6220516]

>>6220211
Every moment you wish is another moment closer to dying.

[Anonymous No.6220550]

>>6220211
>>6220118
you're not oriental
you're simply genetically utterly incompatible with anime

[Anonymous No.6220611]

[Anonymous No.6220651]

>>6220516
Yes, and so I will power my reincarnation with my wish. Who said I needed to make it in this life?

[Anonymous No.6221285]

>>6218651
Kinda done. Yeah... I tried doing some high as fuck saturation shit and I'm not entirely satisfied, but fuck it, I'm not putting more hours into it.

[Anonymous No.6221411]

>>6218732
>>6219866
Nice job.

[Anonymous No.6221550]

I'm ngmi, it's been 2 years and this still took me 30 min to make

[Anonymous No.6221552]

>>6221550
I kneel ngmi i did picrel somewhere 1 and a half year through my drawing journey
But to be fair i was drawing daily for 2-3 hours including studying so maybe you just didn't put to much effort

[Anonymous No.6221557]

>>6221552
I've been grinding for 5 hours a day almost everyday since the start of the year. I still don't have a good way to construct the body I can't visualise what it is supposed to look like on screen even with a reference on hand. Starting a drawing is the worst, I can generally get into the process after the lines are set but getting the lines on paper is the worst part. I don't have problems copying anime for the most part but trying to apply the style to a 3D reference makes everything go to shit.

[Anonymous No.6221569]

>>6221557
Then i guess you didn't draw out of your comfort zone much like you try to paint or do big illustartion and its shit and you come back to copies of anime girls with just a lines
I suggest you to try stop drawing and go full paint mode, try new thing
Do studies of some big paintings or landscapes from artstation for example

[Anonymous No.6221578]

>>6221557
>I can't visualise what it is supposed to look like on screen even with a reference on hand
Seems like you lack observation skills.

[Anonymous No.6221631]

nvm I should just use construction instead of trying to wing it,

[Anonymous No.6221644]

>>6221557
Are you studying Vilppu? Like your smooth bodies and cute faces. You need something for you line. Maybe more practice or texture brush or transparent brush. Try to watch Houtengeki's videos, his line simple but cute.

[Anonymous No.6222013]

How's this study?

[Anonymous No.6222018]

>>6221631
No, you should learn anatomy instead.

[Anonymous No.6222099]

https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/88489970
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/100559450
How?

[Anonymous No.6222106]

>>6222099
He learned to render. It's not hard.

[Anonymous No.6222122]

>>6222013
Flat as fuck, and I don't mean the subject matter. Learn to feel the form.

[Anonymous No.6222138]

>>6222013
mmm i think your biggest issue here is proportions, look how long her chest, legs and arms are compared to yours, also the facial features are in their own perspective compared to the head perspective, look this guy have some really good head tutorials:
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAcGenBoh-mXpufzPtNh0hg

[Anonymous No.6222186]

>>6221631
You fell into the trap when doing outline. Right half-ass should be smaller. Box has angles, ass is rounded. So, you forgot to cut the angle from the box. Also ribcage bottom is tilted, top isn't. Spine should be bended or even broken, but it isn't. Sorry for no redline, my inspiration is at the bottom of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.6222197]

>>6222099
Errr, I can't see it.

[Anonymous No.6222206]

>>6222197
Stop being a retard, then.

[Anonymous No.6222446]

Question, is practicing with real life photos a good excercises to git gud in animu drawing or should i just use jap artists twitter drawing(s) to study stuffs. Rightmost is jap twitter study, middle is rl photo, leftmost is just me fucking around.

[Anonymous No.6222459]

>>6222446
fucking forgot my image and 4chin won't let me delete the post

[Anonymous No.6222500]

>>6222446
Gravure models use their own photos to draw anime girls, and I'd say the middle is the best out of them. Yes, it's a good idea to study real people.

[Anonymous No.6222508]

>>6222446
Just draw your friends photos on facebook and change them into anime. Nobody will notice.

[Anonymous No.6222532]

has anyone drawn anything with their coom?

[Anonymous No.6222538]

[Anonymous No.6222561]

Will i ever be patient enough to finish my drawings

[Anonymous No.6222575]

>>6222561
Just noticed how fucked proportions are and tried to fix but at this point i'll call it a failiure and ll move on

[Anonymous No.6222767]

What's the process here?
Is it a painted over 3D model? Painted over CG art?

https://twitter.com/7th_knights/media

[Anonymous No.6222773]

>>6222018
>>6222186
It has been 2 years of non-stop fundie grinding, I guess this is the phase where I should just realise I don't have what it takes and put my dreams to rest.

[Anonymous No.6222774]

>>6222773
your study was garbage probably

[Anonymous No.6222778]

>>6222767
Yes everything is 3d just painted over just like they do for iteration of 3d characters at work. It's really much like kitbashing and matte painting but for souless anime girls. 3d has more control over ai despite /ic/ shills point out that it's over when it's not.

[Anonymous No.6222780]

>>6222774
Maybe, if so that's even worse because I spend no time on leisure and drew 5 hours every day after work and almost all weekends as well only to produce these results.

[Anonymous No.6222787]

>>6222780
lol

[Anonymous No.6222791]

>>6222780
you are a perfect example of someone who just draws literally speaking.

[Anonymous No.6222800]

>>6222780
You have not studied "fundies" for 2 years non stop. Stop fucking lying

[Anonymous No.6222809]

>>6222791
I have been studying from books and videos, I started off drawing like this
>>6222800
I dunno, I'm sure of what I did, everything was just really weak starting out and I needed extra help. Had to draw boxes and shapes for a year to try to understand form and perspective and still have trouble with it.

[Anonymous No.6222810]

>>6222773
Are you read Vilppu manual already? Probably it's what you need.

[Anonymous No.6222817]

>>6222810
I can't get past the first chapter because I can't align boxes correctly

[Anonymous No.6222818]

>>6222810
>>6222817
I mean third chapter not first

[Anonymous No.6222822]

>>6222817
Go do the upside down Picasso drawing

[Anonymous No.6222848]

>>6222822
I remember trying it out a long time ago but I will try it again tonight, what will this show me?

[Anonymous No.6222877]

>>6222848
will show you how some drawing exercises are a waste of time and people tell you to do them because they themselves are bad

if you cant even draw a fucking box, then you need to focus on that, drawing basic 3D objects not some random exercise that wont teach you anything

[Anonymous No.6222884]

>>6222809
No matter how hard you grind fundies, if your observation skills are shit, am i sorry, but you are wasting your time.
>picrel
I am 100% sure you NEVER overlap your studies to see your mistakes and then fix then.

https://files.catbox.moe/uizt40.jpg
this is you, always making the same mistakes, no wonder you never improved.
Even proko said the same shit.
https://youtu.be/wWuaQ84kGwI

btw, the people who say to learn form/perspective probably dont know shit.
https://i.imgur.com/to8Yoow.jpeg
A trying to teach how to draw a cube, B(you).
Can you see?
Observation skills aka accuracy drawing are the key to everything, without then, is like a blind people trying to learn to draw.

Congrats you wasted 2 years of your life for nothing :^)

[Anonymous No.6222901]

>>6222884
Thanks, I will dumpster my 2 years of wasted effort then, I give up.

[Anonymous No.6222919]

>>6222901
You know, its been like a year since the Krenz's video was add on the OP.
Your could saved a year at least, if you watched the 3hr video :/
Also, you lack confidence in your lines, did you really draw for 2 years 5hrs/d?
in my exp, there 2 ways to improve line confidence.
1 draw a lot(you)
2 observation skills(the fast way, but boring)
2y 5h/d = +-3500 hours of drawing
did you really draw for 2 years 5hrs/d?

[Anonymous No.6222925]

>>6222901
amazing attitude and mindset, i have a feeling youre gonna go very far

[Anonymous No.6222934]

>>6222919
Here is proof, I misjudged the time maybe it was 1.5 years of drawing and a few months of learning software, but that is still a long time of wasted effort.

[Anonymous No.6222936]

>>6222925
He gets a pat in the back just enough to fall off a cliff.

[Anonymous No.6222939]

>>6222934
if you've already made a habit of drawing it should be easy to start improving. Just gotta change up the way you are studying.

[Anonymous No.6222957]

>>6212933
>>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
wtf is this BS???????
yep, if you are a beginner use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts, because I pretty sure (you) know, imagine not knowing fundies LOOOOOOL

Someone really need to rewrite the op.
Something like this
>Copy anime references exactly
>Don’t copy recklessly, use measuring techniques and ALWAYS OVERLAY your drawing with the original to see your mistakes and fix then.
>Once you can decently copy a drawing, learn and use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.

I don't get it, why are people so afraid to overlay their drawing with the OD?

[Anonymous No.6222968]

>>6222957
we all know you're a summerfag anon, we all know

[Anonymous No.6223061]

>>6222767
DAZ model painted over, also that skin texture is shit

[Anonymous No.6223104]

>>6222957
i see what you did there
actually, i think it's a decent plan
>improve observational skills, learn fundies, then learn to draw anime

[Anonymous No.6223132]

>>6222957
If you want to make your own illustrations, you'll have to make your own decisions about where the lines go.
If you're practicing intro level photocopying, then by all means overlay, lord knows plenty of blind /beg/s could benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.6223143]

>>6223132
>make your own decisions about where the lines go
I find this the hardest thing to do, how do you develop this skill?

[Anonymous No.6223145]

>>6223132
to be able to do this
>If you want to make your own illustrations, you'll have to make your own decisions about where the lines go.

you must first be able to do this
>If you're practicing intro level photocopying, then by all means overlay, lord knows plenty of blind /beg/s could benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.6223152]

>>6223132
>you'll have to make your own decisions about where the lines go
the question is will it look good?

[Anonymous No.6223479]

>>6220118
This are just suggestions but I've to say that you should start out with a more simpler style and work your way up from there. The most important component of most anime/manga style characters are the eyes and yours works, except for the size and the placement of it.
By eye size, anime eyes have to be proportional to both the over all head and hair of said character. That's why all of us can tell if an anime character is an Uguuu or (in your case) is a tad too small, specially compared to the size of the hair.
Another suggestion I can give is for you to simplify the nose. Its a bit jarring to see large 80's hair combined with 00's nose and 90's eyes, hence the somewhat obtuse over all look of the piece.

[Anonymous No.6223535]

Why if I like drafting (I mean something that Vilppu does) but absolutely don't like coloring? I'm lost as animufag? (Pic is not mine but one of my favorite).

[Anonymous No.6223604]

recent drawing, I'm getting out of my comfort zone by drawing moviescenes
what better artist with a somewhat similar style should I study to improve?

[Anonymous No.6223873]

Where do I start with Krenz?

[Anonymous No.6223893]

>>6223873
>how to open htm
do zoomers REALLY?

[Anonymous No.6223910]

How do you decide on a rendering "style"? There are so many artists I like and they all render in a different way from each other, I'm can't decide on who to imitate

[Anonymous No.6223990]

>>6223873
main course - perspective course
but being able to copy 1:1 is a prerequisite to take his courses.

[Anonymous No.6224013]

>>6222934
Can you post all that work I think it'd be worth seeing

[Anonymous No.6224027]

>>6223893
No dude it's a jank setup where you have to delete some other files just to open tge htm made by tonyo

[Anonymous No.6224086]

>Angry, sad, many emotions about my drawings
>I'm giving up im worthless I suck at this
>5 minutes passes
>I'm already drawing again
I honestly just want to give up but I cant.

[Anonymous No.6224117]

>>6223873

Where you get that?

[Anonymous No.6224682]

anime girls without hair scare me

[Anonymous No.6225051]

>>6224682
Me too, also uncovered foreheads. But nowadays not many people understand cuteness of classical hairstyle. It's pretty unpopular IRL.

[Anonymous No.6225111]

My first week of drawing has ultimately come to this

[Anonymous No.6225271]

>>6225111
Based miku schizos always welcome in ic

[Anonymous No.6225329]

>>6225271
I really am a schizo

[Anonymous No.6225351]

>>6222957
Construction is a begtrap

[Anonymous No.6225391]

>>6222809
That's better than what I can draw...

[Anonymous No.6225404]

>>6223990
I'm not Asian so I don't have the gumption, the genes, if you will, to do something that shameless.

[Anonymous No.6225407]

>>6225111
That's better than I've ever done...

[Anonymous No.6225479]

>>6225407
You got it bro. I just do random schizo scribbles and each time I pay attention to what it is I like or dislike about my drawing and try and improve on those things. Don't try and be perfect and just let stuff flow.

[Anonymous No.6225494]

>>6224013
It will get spammy if I try posting all of it but here are some notable pieces I drew. Results are wildly inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.6225497]

>>6225494
A few studies in there too, inb4 people accusing me of plagiarism

[Anonymous No.6225589]

>>6225497
Do you have any drawings from imagination recently?
Also I don't wanna see you give up man. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.6225634]

>>6225494
it seems like you either aren't constructing your heads or you aren't constructing them properly

[Anonymous No.6225636]

>>6225634
post your heads

[Anonymous No.6225682]

Just finished this

[Anonymous No.6225705]

>>6225682
Very cool, care to share your prompt?

[Anonymous No.6225715]

>>6225705
My favorite Miku outfit with cake

[Anonymous No.6225724]

>>6225705
what's summerfags end game? you're not tricking anybody, you aren't even putting any effort m8

[Anonymous No.6225732]

Don't forget to practice drawing cakes and old men /asg/

[Anonymous No.6225907]

>>6225351
>Construction is a begtrap
Explain why, please.

[Anonymous No.6225928]

>>6225589
Nothing from imagination, I can't into perspective => can't into boxes => anything I try from imagination comes out fucked.

[Anonymous No.6225953]

Trying to reconstruct the pose I drew yesterday but with different character this time.

[Anonymous No.6226036]

Do any of you fuckers know how to draw anything besides generic moe girls and traps? Hell, even different body types of women beyond making tits a different size?

[Anonymous No.6226042]

>>6225907
they wont explain why because they are just crabs that dont draw

[Anonymous No.6226043]

>>6226036
Let me guess you one of those lgbtq blm niggers that want to draw every boudy type but normal one? We like skinny girl we draw skinny girls
else is doomed and forbidden

[Anonymous No.6226054]

>>6223873
no one has actually completed any of these courses

[Anonymous No.6226070]

>>6226036
I do. But you guys mostly ignore my art because it's millenial fan art.

[Anonymous No.6226198]

>>6226036
Kirby

[Anonymous No.6226202]

>>6226054
I will, the problem is I don't have the courses and spent weeks finding them to no avail. Imagine if I spent those weeks studying the courses, I could've surpassed krenz by now

[Anonymous No.6226442]

Daily reminder
Feel the forms before you draw or paint it,

[Anonymous No.6226465]

Why are you all so bad and retarded? Are these really the people I've been asking advice from?

[Anonymous No.6226505]

>>6225636
why?

[Anonymous No.6226518]

>>6226465
pyw coward

[Anonymous No.6226575]

>>6223535
What do you mean you're lost? I'm interested.

[Anonymous No.6226645]

>>6226575
Anime lovers strictly perfect colored pictures in my experience. So if I like to do drafts I can't be very loved by others. Pictures like I posted looks pretty rare and unpopular. And frequent question to beg anime artists on drawing boards is "when you start to paint and do full works you ..." like an uncolored pictures is something unworthy.
(Also can you estimate artist's level? Picture looks cool and anatomical but hands is pretty beg).

[Anonymous No.6226655]

>>6226645
>strictly perfect
strictly prefer. Sorry

[Anonymous No.6226930]

>>6226043
>t. can only draw love live samefaces

[Anonymous No.6226937]

>>6226645
Uncolored pictures can easily get thousand of likes if you're good. Even if it's a simple sketch and not something elaborate. And if being popular is what worries you, you should quit art.Also those hands are just hastily drawn, which is pretty typical from an animator. You can't tell the skill from that alone

[Anonymous No.6226938]

>>6226645
I get what you mean (I'm on a somewhat similar boat) but I think it's not so black and white. You can still achieve an appealing result that will be liked by many even if you have a sketchy artstyle and don't want to render 15h long pieces (pic related). In fact being an artist like this may get you more attention if done well, and you'll be more approachable as an artist as opposed to being another asian artist who cannot be differenciated from the typical stuff you find in the Pixiv ranking.

So I think the real question you should be asking is "how can I elevate my sketches to make them interesting but while still not compromising too much on my natural inclinations?".

[Anonymous No.6226945]

>>6226645
bruh manga is black and white don't use color as an excuse

[Anonymous No.6226949]

>>6215933
How do I draw like you

[Anonymous No.6227201]

>>6225404
ngmi
just give up

[Anonymous No.6228057]

How do I make sure I draw anime and not trannime? What is the difference?

[Anonymous No.6228072]

>>6228057
Just don't be stupid there's one wojak posting loser that uses that word

[Anonymous No.6228124]

first try. any advice?

[Anonymous No.6228132]

i painted the genshin goat

[Anonymous No.6228135]

>>6228124
Not trying to crab but use your eyes.

[Anonymous No.6228139]

>>6228132
nice
that foot kinda ugly though

[Anonymous No.6228147]

[Anonymous No.6228148]

>>6228139
easy fix is to hide the foot if pressed for time. I am assuming he is posting this somewhere later.

[Anonymous No.6228153]

>>6228132
quick rundown on this character? what's the appeal?

[Anonymous No.6228160]

>>6228153
she has nice tits and ass and a sexy outfit to showcase it. being able to grab her horns while she does her due service is also a plus

[Anonymous No.6228189]

>>6228139
i see what you mean, maybe this will alleviate that a bit

[Anonymous No.6228218]

>>6228189
kek

[Anonymous No.6228243]

>>6228189
always use references when you dont know how to draw something.
You can LITERALLY SEARCH "THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE FOOT"

[Anonymous No.6228246]

>>6225479
I haven't "got it" for decades.

[Anonymous No.6228248]

>>6228218
>>6228243
can you do a paintover then? It looks ok to me since the focus isn't the foot lol

[Anonymous No.6228275]

>>6212933
>3 hour long video
i better be a professional mangaka by the time i'm done watching this

[Anonymous No.6228277]

>>6222884
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWuaQ84kGwI
This is stupid, one look and I can see the tube representing the skeleton's spine is misplaced. What's that got to do with gesture or flow?

[Anonymous No.6228282]

>>6222877
I've been trying to draw a box for years. Are you telling me I have to keep doing it?

[Anonymous No.6228289]

>>6228275
>he doesn't know that he'll need to spend hundreds or even thousands of hours watching courses, videos, speedpaints in order to get good

[Anonymous No.6228294]

>>6228289
Define good. I'd like to reach zun level, or maybe even Ryukishi.

[Anonymous No.6228334]

It will be over for anime artists in two years tops

[Anonymous No.6228336]

>>6228334

[Anonymous No.6228351]

>>6228334
>>6228336
Which generator are these from?

[Anonymous No.6228367]

>>6228334
>>6228336
both look like shit

[Anonymous No.6228371]

>>6226036
>go on anime general
>why does everyone draw anime

[Anonymous No.6228621]

>>6228367
What about that one?

>>6228351
Dall-E

[Anonymous No.6228624]

>>6228621
ok
I give up

[Anonymous No.6228631]

>>6228621
>"It's not real AI ar-
>check saucenao
>no results

Well.. Guess I'll just wait 2 years until it gets better to generate my own coom art.
I hope we can feed the AI with our own pictures. I'll spam Takeda Hiromitsu's art into the machine

[Anonymous No.6228637]

>>6228631
>I'll spam Takeda Hiromitsu's art into the machine
same

[Anonymous No.6228639]

>>6228621
not ai

[Anonymous No.6228649]

>>6228637
Based.
The man is a god but I want more of his Natsuha. It was truly his peak and I need more

[Anonymous No.6228749]

>>6226036
Kill yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.6228791]

>>6212933
Training for today

[Anonymous No.6228846]

>>6228791
wheres the blush? your ref is literally turning purple

[Anonymous No.6228859]

>>6228336
>no navel
>no pupil
>hands hidden
sorry, can't fap to this

[Anonymous No.6228873]

>>6228631
it's cropped obviously not dalle since it has eyes and no blurred together body parts

[Anonymous No.6228892]

>>6228336
Where is her bellybutton?

[Anonymous No.6228911]

>>6228892
like the first humans adam and eve who had no bellybuttons because they were created by god this anime girl doesn't have it too because she was immaculately concepted by a machine

[Anonymous No.6229066]

>>6228621
This isn't AI.
I'd like a source though.

[Anonymous No.6229136]

It's over

[Anonymous No.6229154]

any tips?

[Anonymous No.6229220]

>>6228371
>anime
>only moe girls
Stupid zoomer

[Anonymous No.6229224]

>>6228749
pyw, anon. Surely you can manage decent art :^)

[Anonymous No.6229422]

>>6229220
>he thinks shit that was popular when he was young is good
Trash is still trash. Stop consuming the old trash and get with new the ones. There's a reason why trends die out like u dumbass boomer

[Anonymous No.6229426]

I post this and people say it looks good but I just feel something is off

[Anonymous No.6229436]

>>6229422
>he
Anyway, you're doing a great job of exposing your limited and shit taste in anime

[Anonymous No.6229449]

>>6229136
i truly should've picked up welding...

[Anonymous No.6229460]

im not sure about the legs

[Anonymous No.6229479]

>>6229460
proportions in general are fucked, pelvis doesn't make sense, his left leg is larger

[Anonymous No.6229549]

>>6229154
far leg isn't connecting accordingly to the hips
face looks pretty fucked. due to the natural curvature of the mouth, the far half of it gets obstructed so it's no longer visible past the median line of the face. not exactly the same orientation of your drawing but notice how the mouth never go past the nose delineation in the bottom view in my pic
unappealing shape design on hair and eyes as well. please study how the artists that inspire you do it and don't just wing it by yourself. stylization is hard
foreshortened arm looks good overall. good job and keep working. that perspective isn't trivial

[Anonymous No.6229607]

>>6229436
>he she they
what matter does it concern? Death is assured for all, and dust we shall all become.
>exposing my limited and shit tastes
Go on then. Show me your critical judgement of the japanese cartoon landscape. What magnificent insight have they bequeathed to the follies of the human condition? What conversations and discussions do they offer in the everlasting narrative of human civilization? What enduring qualities do they present that will make them a namesake with the works of the classical canon? Tell me. And help me god please and enlighten me anon.

[Anonymous No.6229638]

>>6228621
>>6229066
Artist is yohan1754. AI niggers will never be able to produce a coherent picture.

[Anonymous No.6229842]

>>6229436
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.6229848]

>>6229460
it looks like you know how to draw seperate parts of the body pretty well but struggle to put it all together

[Anonymous No.6229852]

>>6228791
>didn't study the lighting conditions
>didn't study the head angle

[Anonymous No.6230003]

>>6229638
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6230005]

>>6229136
Are they giving source to the artists they're ripping off to pump those ugly results?
Don't think so yeah. Can't wait until they get fucked over.

[Anonymous No.6230006]

>>6228334
>>6228336
bro we used to have AI generated animu girl threads years ago were we just redrew the prompts this is nothing new

[Anonymous No.6230014]

>>6230005
there's no fucking source, you dimwit

[Anonymous No.6230023]

>>6230014
Damn. This is either flying right above your head or you're seriously that retarded and don't understand how these AIs work.

[Anonymous No.6230035]

>>6230023
tell me how it works then, indulge us

[Anonymous No.6230061]

>>6230035
The AI in question >>6229136 here does not originally come up with anything. What it does is a mashup of certain key parts from different artworks it mashups together. The AI is trained to recognize these parts in existing artworks, cut them up and then merge them together to create something different. The gaps (like "crying girl" etc) are then filled up. On the 2nd row you can see the weird tears for example.
Still on the 2nd row, look at the 2nd and 4th pictures, these are good examples because you can recognize two different human process/style: 2nd has a more evident lineart showing with basic flat shadows whereas 4th looks like it's painted with a wet brush or something. The point I'm making is that these respective styles come from the artists who are behind the parts the AI used as a base.

You can make the same kind of observations for the other drawings. People need to understand that there is no singular way to make something into art, because art is a flat representation of what reality is like for a given artist. This is why no artist draws trees the same way either, and this is why art is so interesting, because it's like seeing the interpretation of reality through someone else's eyes.
So take the wings for example: if no artist had ever attempted drawing angel wings before, then the AI couldn't know how to do it either, because it is a *human, 2D representation* of the real life 3D idea of of what we believe angel wings are like. On the last row it is fairly obvious the wing poses and way they are rendered are ripped off existing artworks.

Anyone who's been browsing and saving artworks for the past decade or more can see what I'm talking about. If you're dedicated enough you could deconstruct the way the AI works from the other way around and figure out what artworks they're using and hence what artists they're fucking over.
The truth needs to be out there, and eventually it will.

[Anonymous No.6230066]

Moreoever, to illustrate there was a leak in one of the AI database and it was known that they had ripped entire booru sites for it, as a side note to my explanation.

[Anonymous No.6230197]

>>6229842
>>6229607
pyw

[Anonymous No.6230415]

anything wrong with this anatomy?

[Anonymous No.6230421]

So I'm doing krenz to improve my accuracy and copying but it's so fucking annoying to have to print two copies of artwork so that I can study them because I'm doing them traditionally. Is there way to improve accuracy traditionally beside barque?

[Anonymous No.6230476]

>>6230415
Where is the crotch? It looks like both legs are stitched together in the middle.

>>6230421
Just draw while looking at your monitor/phone. Observation is an important skill. Make sure to make a lot of light measurements to make sure your drawing will probably fit on the drawing.

[Anonymous No.6230588]

>>6230476
is this better? fuck crotches are hard

[Anonymous No.6230615]

>>6230588
here's a suggestion, I think try defining her public mound more and angle her anus
good luck anon

[Anonymous No.6230617]

>>6230588
w pubes

[Anonymous No.6230626]

>>6230615
holy shit dude that's great, i've been struggling with this for like 2 hours now even with all kind of references and you figured it out, thanks a ton

[Anonymous No.6230680]

>>6230061
That sounds like what human artists do to me, buddy. Why are you so mad? AI is a really fun tool.

[Anonymous No.6230691]

I bought a how to draw Anime book and none of the Art inside the book looks like the Art on the Cover. Can I still trust the information written inside? If none of the pictures look good how can I trust what's being told to me?

[Anonymous No.6230697]

>>6230691
post book

[Anonymous No.6230706]

>>6230697

[Anonymous No.6230707]

>>6230706
gff

[Anonymous No.6230713]

>>6230707
Lmao

[Anonymous No.6230740]

>>6230707
lmao
no lol

[Anonymous No.6230766]

>>6230707
This art style makes me nostalgic for 2002

[Anonymous No.6230778]

Anybody actually buy Pixiv Premium? What ways do you use to get around a tag being full of lowlevel Art?

[Anonymous No.6230789]

>>6230778
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/34153-pixiv-plus

[Anonymous No.6230791]

whats the most intuitive way to draw hair? shapes or lines first?

[Anonymous No.6230802]

>>6230789
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6230811]

I tired doing this in a quick crayon-y style, took about an hour

[Anonymous No.6230852]

>>6230680
nice bait

[Anonymous No.6230855]

Am I supposed to start off tracing?

[Anonymous No.6230926]

>>6230789
I don't get it, my Pixiv is the same as always. How do you use this?
I tried disabling other extensions & scripts just in case but I still don't see any changes.

[Anonymous No.6231354]

>>6220211
>awfully generic pinup art
I couldn't physically yawn enough to show how disinterested I am.

[Anonymous No.6231373]

>>6230855
Tracing helps you understand how stylization works and might help you internalize anatomy, as long as you don't just trace mindlessly. Obviously, you'll also learn about line strength.
The difference between tracing and reference studies is that reference studies also teach you maintaining proportions and how to observe line flows. You can also argue that, because reference studies necessarily require more focus, you're less likely to fall into a state of mindlessly copying something.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
While tracing is easier and seems kinda like cheating, if you pay attention while tracing, you'll be able to learn the fewer things it teaches at a heightened pace than if you were to reference study something, the latter teaching you more skills but all of them at a slower pace.

[Anonymous No.6231391]

>>6230852
sneedthe

[Anonymous No.6231446]

>>6230706
>>6230707
Can you show construction page?
>>6230766
Most anime girls in even Japanese "how to draw anime" books isn't as cute as you usually see on Pixiv.

[Anonymous No.6231459]

>>6231446
It's not good anon. Nothing to do with style. There are better books out there.

[Anonymous No.6231471]

>>6220211
>cute girls
I wanted to troll you a little asking how it's feel to have so outdated taste in 2022 but then I remembered that I'm not better than you and cried. I'm sorry!
STOP WISH, START DRAW!
>>6220550
You mean thin line? What if I don't care about line thickness?

[Anonymous No.6231495]

i'm trying to learn how to do anime faces. am i doing it right?

[Anonymous No.6231523]

>>6230706
>>6230707
thanks for the laughs anon

[Anonymous No.6231684]

Is slime girls easier to draw than usual ones? Need to draw something simple and cute for beginning (I'm starting to draw only for draw something cute for relax, no subscribers, commissions, likes etc. needed).

[Anonymous No.6232046]

>>6231446
nah anon your just retarded

[Anonymous No.6232067]

>>6230791
this
also curious

[Anonymous No.6232089]

>>6230791
>>6232067
Naoki Saito says to use shapes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_56X2rpHCs

[Anonymous No.6232223]

heres one i did november last year. ive always been fairly good at copying but cant do shit from my own imagination. i started studying seriously this year and have been mostly working on construction of figures. i haven't felt a lot of progress though so ive been thinking about going back to copying and taking it more seriously, then i found this thread.

[Anonymous No.6232229]

>>6232223
sorry, mine is on the right. the original is the one on the left in case it isnt clear.

[Anonymous No.6232328]

>>6232223
and here's an original from this month. after about 8 months of serious study i feel like im starting to make things im proud of, but it still feels like the more i look the more i find things i need to improve on. it's quite daunting.

[Anonymous No.6232352]

why does this look like ass bros

[Anonymous No.6232481]

>>6232352
hand and shadows looks weird

[Anonymous No.6232680]

how do i learn to draw like this?
like i get the OP said to copy using fundamentals but then how do i move on from that?

i don't understand
also theres some textures and lighting here that i dont know how to replicate

[Anonymous No.6232763]

>>6232223
The head shape and face look a bit off and her right leg looks too fat. If it wasn't for these things which can easily be fixed you'd have something on par with the original. The face most notably is often the most important thing in a drawing and you can't allow yourself to mess it up.
Good job for keeping up.

[Anonymous No.6232764]

>>6232680
First step is to try and fail.

[Anonymous No.6232773]

>>6232680
you have to learn the fundamentals before you can copy using them.

[Anonymous No.6232778]

New Thread:
>>6232776
>>6232776
>>6232776