/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6204630]

That’s it, I’m throwing in the towel.

[Anonymous No.6204633]

Sure. See ya.

[Anonymous No.6204634]

I really fucking hate this place with every fiber of my being

[Anonymous No.6204638]

>>6204630
Do you believe every shitpost you see here? These pictures are quite literally the same shit.

[Anonymous No.6204641]

>>6204638
Except he isn’t lying. This is is first artwork pack in august of last year.

[Anonymous No.6204642]

>>6204641
If I make a Twitter account today and start posting my shit from 8 months ago and then accelerate it will look like I'm progressing amazingly fast. Or I might just start uploading my effortless shit first.
But yea yea why would people lie on the internet right?

[Anonymous No.6204643]

>>6204641

Damn, Tommy.

[Anonymous No.6204646]

>>6204642
For a few hours of social fame? That’s a bit of a stretch. I can see people doing that but that seems like too much effort if your art is already good you could just drop the same “meme” at any time.

[Anonymous No.6204648]

>That’s it, I’m throwing in the towel.
Implying you ever even picked the towel up?

[Anonymous No.6204654]

>>6204648
Don’t disrespect the shammy shamwow.

[Anonymous No.6204657]

>>6204646
It really boosts people's ego. ESPECIALLY by making begs feel miserable.

[Anonymous No.6204659]

It's like asking people "how long have you been drawing for" and getting "ah just a few months or something (actually since childhood but it doesn't matter)".

[Anonymous No.6204660]

>>6204646
>>6204657
Exactly demotivation is necessary to cut off future competition

[Anonymous No.6204668]

>>6204648
It was a soap

[Anonymous No.6204670]

>>6204641
And what? Thats normal progress for a year if you put your back into it.
Guys sometimes you so fucking dumb, thats insane. Stop whining and go grind, study, etc.
You just dont want it enough to make it. As simple as it is.

[Anonymous No.6204672]

>>6204630
You can achieve such progress in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.6204681]

>>6204659
What the fuck should since childhood even mean.
Everyone took art classes when they were 5 where they finger painted some turkies. It means nothing. At what point does it really matter if you're just a kid drawing stick figures

[Anonymous No.6204704]

>>6204630
>artist demonstrate that with one year of hard work you can become a decent digital painter
>faggot OP gets demotived instead
Proving once again that retards here will make every little excuse to get out of having to apply themselves.

[Anonymous No.6204705]

>>6204681
When you go beyond turkey finger painting and start dooling during class every day to the point where you are known as the "art kid" in the class while everyone else moved on.

[Anonymous No.6204710]

>>6204659
>>6204705
I was the art kid and all did was basically draw videogame characters and made paper dolls and story books until i became a teen who went months withouth drawing until went to anime club and drew until i graduated highschool then quit drawing for years until i picked it up in earnestly and consistently later in life. So yeah it doesn't matter because it art was always pastime i didn't indulged in most of my life.

[Anonymous No.6204739]

>>6204630
>tradfag learns digital in a year
You have been clickbated and jebaited.

[Anonymous No.6204745]

>>6204672
post your progress

[Anonymous No.6204780]

>retard gets demotivated by trannime
Lmao

[Anonymous No.6204786]

>>6204780
anime

[Anonymous No.6204795]

>>6204630
wish that was me

[Anonymous No.6204906]

Good. The weak should perish.

[Anonymous No.6204909]

how do you learn to render like the right?

[Anonymous No.6204914]

>>6204630
He's tracing CSP models tho I can tell

[Anonymous No.6204920]

>>6204670
>normal progress
Post your normal progress, delusional beg.

[Anonymous No.6204927]

>>6204920
Projecting much?

[Anonymous No.6204928]

>>6204630
You do realize left could have been done on Jan 2021 right?

[Anonymous No.6204936]

Just draw a lot, dumbass. You hang out in this place all day full of lazy retards and you will never ever grow.

[Anonymous No.6204972]

>>6204914
Noone cares about that when the final product is solid. Not using reference is for suckers.

[Anonymous No.6205006]

>>6204630
>waaaaah, waaaah, why am I not improving as fast as the bugman who practiced for 18 hours a day for a year when I spent 30 minutes a day for two weeks
end yourself, crab

[Anonymous No.6205039]

>>6204630
>>6204641
This is absolutely doable progress for a year of hard work. Not to mention this person has natural talent, by natural talent I mean a higher sense of perception than normal, because the old works aren’t bad at all for a beg. Lucky for you perception is also a learned skill.

If you want fast improvement actually study from those art books I know you’re sitting on.

[Anonymous No.6205047]

>Fast improvement
Money
It's money, always
Money to buy a printer, a good tablet
An ipad, a phone with a pen to practice on the go
Physical Artbooks, Art programs
Physical Manga
A good PC, a good monitor
Money to buy brushes and online courses
Money to buy fake retweets and followers
Private tutoring

[Anonymous No.6205210]

>>6205047
cope

[Anonymous No.6205232]

>>6205210
t. Richfag with AC and unlimited art materials
Just draw with dirt bro.

[Anonymous No.6205236]

>>6205232
It's only recently I figured out a lot of the world doesn't have AC. DAMN I love being an American and I thank God for rolling the dice of my soul into this country even though I didn't get to be white.

[Anonymous No.6205249]

>>6205047
It's time you fucking welfare badger. You spend more of your time perfecting your craft you get better at it.

[Anonymous No.6205355]

You can get astronomically better if you practice intentionally everyday and stick to your goals.

[Anonymous No.6206979]

>>6205047
Unironically
Not to say that better equipment makes you a better artist, but it definitely helps with makeing a more polished artwork
Is very hard to finish a piece using only a shitty small tablet

[Anonymous No.6206997]

>>6206979
>Is very hard to finish a piece using only a shitty small tablet
meanwhile digital artists before the 2010's doing amazing work with old ass photoshop that only had basic opacity brushes and basic wacom tablets
keep making excuses
actually, pyw, i bet not only are you permabeg

[Anonymous No.6206998]

>>6206979
if you cant draw with a simple pencil and printer paper or small tablet and random software
then you cant draw with the best most expensive tools
you skill literally doesnt change but keep making excuses retards

[Anonymous No.6207033]

>>6206979
holy mother of cope

[Anonymous No.6207046]

>>6206997
>were doing amazing work
very few were. most just stuck with traditional supplies. digital work with old tech was horribly time consuming and was more about making a point rather than producing good art.

People do all types of stupid crazy but time consuming shit, it doesn't make it a good choice just because you "can" produce good results with 100 hours invested in a single drawing.

[Anonymous No.6207050]

>>6207046
Yeah, I remember people needed scanners to get shit done. Deviant Art was full of scanned artwork sketches. I saved up for a printer and scanner combo back then but my gay brother broke it after getting into a confrontation.

Making artwork digitally was a pain in the ass for most people before 2010.

[Anonymous No.6207079]

>>6207046
>>6207050
the fuck are you zoomers on about, the Intuos 3 and 4 existed pre-2010 and pirated adobe products were easily cracked and distributed everywhere digitally and physically.

What do you think flash animations on newgrounds were made with? by scanning each frame?

[Anonymous No.6207081]

>>6207079
are you really considering flash animation to be "amazing work" ?

and yes, i made flash animations with a mouse, it fucking sucked.

[Anonymous No.6207084]

>>6207079
You're an out of touch boomer or a zoomxoom yourself. The internet was slow a shit and nobody was risking downloading crackware for adojew because adojew packaged photoshop with your tablet FOR FREE as "adobe essentials" when you bought a wacom tablet.

Nobody gave a shit though because everyone wanted to use Sai and only used adobe photoshop elements to touch up their scanned pictures before tossing it into Sai.

[Anonymous No.6207105]

>>6207084
>The internet was slow a shit and nobody was risking downloading crackware for adojew because adojew packaged photoshop with your tablet FOR FREE as "adobe essentials" when you bought a wacom tablet.

your memory is completely fucked then, I literally supervised distributing photoshop with keygens to kids in 2007 at a summer camp. You also act like torrenting and pirating software wasnt a thing back then, hello? limewire?

>Nobody gave a shit though because everyone wanted to use Sai and only used adobe photoshop elements to touch up their scanned pictures before tossing it into Sai.

yeah all the wow blizzard artists pre-2010 were definitely not using photoshop and wacom to make their digital art, kill yourself zoomer.

[Anonymous No.6207216]

>>6204630
it looks good but still amaturish
but it looks good is what important
what keeps begs down is their fear of painting even after they've learned a good amount of fundies

[Anonymous No.6207229]

>>6204641
>Artists puts out a shitty piece on purpose
>Artist draws closer to his actual level
>OH WOW GUYS LOOK HOW MUCH I IMPROVED
Stop falling for this shit

[Anonymous No.6207244]

>>6207105
Again, piracy wasn’t needed because photoshop was bundled with wacom for free and did what it was supposed to do which was cleaning up and adjusting scanned drawings. I’m speaking for those who drew anime, not conceptart fags.

[Anonymous No.6207261]

>>6206979
>t.

[Anonymous No.6207284]

>>6204630
The shitty phone drawing on the left is disingenuous. The face on that character shows clear signs of already understanding fundamentals, as the features are way too properly aligned. That's very difficult to get right for any beginner. It's obvious this person played up the amateur factor for shock value, and it worked seeing as it now has a worthless thread on /ic/. Even an experienced artist will make a shitty drawing with their shitty fat finger on a phone screen especially if they rarely do it. For all we know the artist was good already and this is a record of adapting to using a mobile device to paint. I don't buy it, even if it's technically feasible.

[Anonymous No.6207323]

>>6207244
>I’m speaking for those who drew anime, not conceptart fags.
>thinks pre-2010 anime was amazing work compared to professional concept art

youre actually retarded, also no one was even talking about anime in the first place you stupid weebfag. Stop trying to insert your isolated experiences masturbating to anime and drawing loli smut to make comments what was or wasn't possible in digital art at the time.

>digital work with old tech was horribly time consuming and was more about making a point rather than producing good art.

ur literally spewing bullshit. People were using tablets to draw art from sketch to coloring to finished piece in photoshop back then and guess what? they are still are in 2022.

go ask any professional artist that did work back then, some used traditional media out of habit not because tablet and digital art technology was inferior or "horribly time consuming"

[Anonymous No.6207325]

>>6207229
The progress is trackable

[Anonymous No.6207337]

post your two-image progress

[Anonymous No.6207752]

>>6207216
beg here , any tips to get into painting in digital? I dont even know how to color drawings

>>6207284
Thought they just stole the right one from google images desu

[Anonymous No.6207849]

>>6204630
the colonies of Man lie trampled at our feet.

[Anonymous No.6207857]

>>6204642
cope

[Anonymous No.6207860]

>>6207337
progressed from hiding feet to hiding hands.

[Anonymous No.6207890]

>>6207849
So thats the power of tracing?

[Anonymous No.6207895]

>>6204630
SOUL SOULESS AAAAAA

[Anonymous No.6207901]

>>6207860
i shouldve chosen a different drawing, i dont normally hide hands.
Not that my hands are great

[Anonymous No.6208038]

>>6205047
>Private tutoring
This
If you want rapid results, you NEED a mentor. All these fags that posts huge improvements in less than 2 years have easy access to mentors and schools. And of course when you can actually afford that everything else that makes your life easier to devote art to is already secured beforehand. Dont be fooled anons.

[Anonymous No.6208062]

I had saved a playlist but i deleted my youtube account that I registered since 2008 (i’m a dumbass) that had a bunch of videos of a private tutor coming to the home of this wannabe mangaka and basically it he just set the camera up and recorded his teachings. I can’t find it anymore because the name of the videos was too generic and i stumbled upon it by accident.

Also, South Korea has this kind of thing where you can walk into some schools and they always apparently have some big wig teaching stuff.

[Anonymous No.6208064]

His next year isn't so great though...
Another year and he'll be good.

[Anonymous No.6208101]

>>6205047
>Private tutoring
this is literally all you need. Fuck your ipads and monitors, A good teacher will get you far, even if you're drawing with the cheapest pencil you could find

[Anonymous No.6208112]

>>6204630
well yeah maybe stop playing video games retard. Every 100 hours you complete a game for could've went to drawing. Serves you right nigger.

[Anonymous No.6208204]

>>6208038
>>6208101
Youre guys are right

[Anonymous No.6208210]

>>6208112
Video games help take my mind off bad thoughts and enhances my visual daydreaming abilities. Besides, I still have enough time to draw during the day. I still have time before work and already clocked in 1 hour 30 minutes.

[Anonymous No.6208430]

>>6208062
>South Korea has this kind of thing where you can walk into some schools and they always apparently have some big wig teaching stuff.
Is there a way to self delete myself and make sure I reincarnate in Seoul. Thanks in advance anons.

[Anonymous No.6208463]

>>6208112
Oddly the most inspiring post today.


Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.6208490]

>>6204630

Asian Jeans are real, and NGMI westoids will never accept that Yellow people learn to draw 10x faster than Burguerinos, and other retards.

[Anonymous No.6208590]

>>6208038
nips are poor you retard. They're cash poorer than the US, Canada, and most of europe.

[Anonymous No.6208594]

>>6208590
if you can’t rent a girlfriend for $50 yen you can rent a drawing instructor for the same price

[Anonymous No.6208813]

>>6204634
me too. I just want a place to talk about art with actual hard working people. I'm sick of this doomer shit, I'm sick of the people who try so little, or can't even fathom the work they would need to put to put in to be an artist. just stupid shit, unfiltered by uncaring mods.

[Anonymous No.6208823]

>>6208813
Be the change you want to see. As MJ said, it starts with you. Then others will follow.

But you don't want to do that..you just want to doompost exactly the same way as the very people you're complaining about.

[Anonymous No.6208874]

>>6208823
>But you don't want to do that.
I'm already working on improving manga gen by providing a website of resources so I don't have to see posts about basic workflow anymore

lets hear what you're doing

[Anonymous No.6208877]

>>6208874
>lets hear what you're doing

Also, link?

[Anonymous No.6208882]

>>6208877
http://otakubasket.com/
its under a placeholder URL since It wont actually launch until good visual assets are made. Id prefer to have my own manga assets to use rather than siting others work.

[Anonymous No.6208915]

>>6208882
Thx anon, all info is appreciated

[Anonymous No.6208962]

>>6208874
Neat. I wanted to do something similar for lsg, just never got around to it yet.

[Anonymous No.6208988]

>>6204630
>>6207284
This. It looks like someone with an advanced level of skill pretending to be amateur. Whenever I half ass shit on on my phone, it looks similar

[Anonymous No.6208999]

>>6205039
Not to mention it looks like he had no idea how to use digital at first. It's impressive progress and I bet he worked really hard or had a good teacher or is just a great autodidact, but it's definitely doable.

Drill fundies -> apply fundies to master studies -> try an original piece and compare it to the master -> identify flaws -> repeat

/ic/ gets stuck on step 1 and cries about ayzen beans, the only /beg/ trap is your mind

[Anonymous No.6209430]

>>6204630
I can't even do left.

[Anonymous No.6209445]

>>6204630
I wonder why westerners seethe so much. Just go to an art cram school. They'll force you to draw 8 hours a day. If you give up and drop out, they'll manipulate your emotions to think you are a loser and shame you. So you don't actually quit. I've seen plenty of students get that good in 16~24 months. The fastest one got that good in 8.

[Anonymous No.6209458]

>>6205047
The only thing in that list that makes a huge difference is the private tutor

[Anonymous No.6209496]

>>6208590
dumbass you think they go to western schools?

[Anonymous No.6209532]

>>6204630
>throwing the towel because of that
Weak mindset.

[Anonymous No.6209656]

>>6208430
Unless your life is some trailer trash with no prospects i dont think you’d want that

[Anonymous No.6209708]

>>6209445
>just go
>just do this
>just do that
With what money?

[Anonymous No.6210200]

>>6209708
if you arent prostituting yourself to advance your art are you even trying

[Anonymous No.6210375]

>>6207105
Does anyone else remember using Photoshop CS3 portable back then? Some genius hacker group was able to compress it down to just 50 megabytes before you installed it on your computer.

But I agree a lot of artists back then did use tablets. It just wasn't as accessible for poorfag artists to get started with digital art. The only good graphics tablet was Wacom and it costed hundreds of dollars. And computers were still extremely expensive.

Ironically the cost of a basic ipad and apple pencil in 2022 is way cheaper than it was to get started in digital art in 2010

[Anonymous No.6210542]

>>6210375
Load of bollocks. Graphire was cheaper Wacom tablet back then, and it was really ok. Better than chik shit today, minus pressure levels but those are meme anyways.

[Anonymous No.6210620]

>>6210542

You’re glossing the part where computers were expensive back then. You really think the average kid had a personal computer all for themselves and not the family computer in the living room? I was still using dial up until the 8th grade before switching to dsl and even that was a pain because you get disconnected when the phone rings and everyone still used landline phones just as much as a cellphone if not more.

And let’s say you did find a crack for photoshop but it turned out to be a virus. You just got a ticket for an ass beating for breaking the computer.

[Anonymous No.6210659]

>>6210620
Once again load of bollocks. Computers were expensive but were losing value in a matter of months. You could buy cheap used junk unless you needed new pc to play quake 2.. I mean for school stuff mom!
Also pirated stuff was normal. I never even asked for Photoshop but it was on literary every random cd i ever borrowed so I installed it finally out of curiosity and ended up playing with gradient and smudge tool for rest of the day. There wasn't even any crack. Just txt with serial number.

[Anonymous No.6210782]

Reminder that the people who are truly passionate and truly GMI physically can't throw in the towel.

[Anonymous No.6210814]

>>6210620
>>6210659
ur both not wrong, I think your experiences really depended on your household and environment growing up.

>Ironically the cost of a basic ipad and apple pencil in 2022 is way cheaper than it was to get started in digital art in 2010
no way man lol, unless you're talking about buying used ipad and pencil. A new Intuos was like christmas-gift level price. I also wouldn't say computers were "extremely" expensive, maybe if you were really poor but almost everyone I knew had a basic computer by 2010.

>average kid had a personal computer all for themselves and not the family computer in the living room
>And let’s say you did find a crack for photoshop but it turned out to be a virus. You just got a ticket for an ass beating for breaking the computer.
yeah if you were the younger kid in the family it was prob gonna be the shared computer. Funny enough that finding pirated adobe stuff never gave people viruses from what I saw, the CS era was like the golden age of pirating.

my younger relatives unironically got more viruses from downloading music and clicking through random websites that installed adware from like a toolbar extension or something, was the cause for many hard drive wipes.

[Anonymous No.6211557]

Damn /ic/ is fucking awful

[Anonymous No.6211568]

>>6211557
ur mom got that awful stank pussy

[Anonymous No.6211633]

>>6211568
you got him

[Anonymous No.6212184]

>>6211633
boy if i know it

[Anonymous No.6213161]

Two image progress

[Anonymous No.6213546]

>>6208813
for me, its the animecancer. how can what seems like the whole of modern culture be under the mass delusion that anime is good art, let alone the thing they want to exclusively consume and create.

[Anonymous No.6213553]

>>6204710
Got a similiar history as you where I just stopped and then returned to drawing in adulthood, the talented fags are just the people that never stopped and maybe got lucky with having a brain that does well in figuring out what they need to work on to improve