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ITT Commission stories from both artists and commissioners. Horror stories, pleasant experiences, pricing, snipes, etc.

>> No.6198541
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Seen some very nice comm sheets as of recent

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>>6198541

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>> No.6198641

The first and last time I ever commissioned was my friend's shitty OCs (girl and boy couple) for her birthday and after paying the artist in sexy dA points he sent me the a drawing of two guys making out thinking the badly drawn girl was a guy
My friend loved it so much she turned the girl into a boy and went full blown yaoi shit
Not really a horror story just retarded?

>>6198541
I can't tell if the ych-er a fujo or a femboy consumer

>> No.6198716

>>6198641
>fujo or a femboy consumer
It can be both

>> No.6198722

>>6198537
>at own risk
bro is he just straight up admitting he's incapable of it

>> No.6198728

>>6198722
its 25 bucks, what the fuck are you expecting? I charge 10x more, if i priced as much as him youd be lucky to get a squiggle from me

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>>6198722
>>6198728

This is the definition of undercharging, it's 25$ man. A complete steal

>>6198641
Could be both; you decide

>> No.6198847

>>6198537
I have a guy which commissions me all the time, and besides the weird stuff I have to draw the worst thing about it is how he keeps asking how my day is going, what am I doing at the moment, telling me his life... look buddy you are a nice person but you are not my girlfriend

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>> No.6198861

>>6198541
YCH seems like a very comfy format to make commissions in. I find that I tend to almost spend more time finding the right pose and composition etc. than actually drawing and rendering the damn thing.

>> No.6198862

>>6198641
Sounds like it worked out in the end of your friend loved it in the end. Badly drawn references were probably a contributing factor to the retardation

>>6198847
Is he commissioning very specific weird/obscure content from you? Like content which only you can provide for him

>> No.6198981

>>6198862
It's fetish stuff mainly, but idk why he chose me for it, my stuff doesn't include those kind of drawings but I guess I am up for the job and I'd say I am cheap as welm soo...

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bit off topic but are the circled ones supposed to be male or female?


The shoulder and chest say male and the other ones say male but aren't those hips female or back to basic rules of anatomy I go?

>> No.6199152

>>6198861
It is. Customer knows what pose they are getting and artist gets a break from constructing a whole new composition.

>> No.6199158

>>6199139
Most likely intentionally androgynous to cater to both if the customer wants it

>> No.6199161

>>6199139
4 is def female hips but with ych it can go both ways. Artists usually accept both sexes with interchangeable genitals.

>> No.6199305

>returning commissioner asks for a slot while i was busy with backlogs
>"okay let me know!"
>in the meantime asks if I know someone who also takes comic commissions
>hmmm let me see. Oh maybe this guy I knew of. He took comic commissions before
>"Sure you can take a look at Artist A. Be warn tho its very NSFW!"
>think nothing of it afterwards
>Oh shit remembered Artist A draws isekai hentai knight girls getting gangfucked by goblins and orcs
>commissioner is kinda a Christian guy but has some mild fetish
>hasnt responded since
Well shit.

>> No.6200162

>>6198641
Clear references are always important but atleast it worked out well in the end and they loved it!

>>6198716
>>6199158
Definitely both the artist pinktaco does a lot of it.

>>6199305
You should reach out again and just explain you forgot, better not to lose returning customers but how bad it could be the guy already has some mild fetish

>> No.6200374

>>6198861
>>6199152
If you're just starting out, would highly recommend offering YCHs. it's very relaxed

>> No.6200447

>>6198847
you’re the girlfriend in the relationship
but he’s using your body via your art

>> No.6200627

>>6200447
Idk if you've had a girlfriend before but I can assure you they are constantly asking what you are doing and begging for your attention and in this aspect with this guy it feels pretty much the same, only that it's way sadder. Not to mention him being a tranny. But I guess you do have a point on me being a prostitute he's paying.

>> No.6200883

>>6198566
How old is this? No way huffs still charges so little.

>> No.6200911

>>6200883
Don't even think he takes commissions anymore. Too big to have to.

>> No.6200918

>>6200911
Real shame. He's one of the best shortstack artists, would definitely throw money at him for a comm

>> No.6201353

One of my returning commissioners will always ask if I'm comfortable with x fetish.

The thing is his "fetishes" are super vanilla. Marriage, hand holding, two lovers trying for a baby, kissing, loving housewife, stuff like that.

The guy is great I just find it funny he always makes sure I'm ok with whatever wholesome thing he has this time. It's honestly very polite compared to those who request the most vile stuff and act shocked when you say no.

>> No.6201356

>>6201353
That's adorable, what a cute sheltered lamb.

>> No.6201400

Once i had a familiar customer who usually commission me monthly. Things were ok, nothing too hot. However, oneday he admitted that he was using his dad's credit card to pay me all these times. I noped out as soon as i knew. Fucking teenagers and their destructive behavior.

>> No.6202052

>>6201400
Not your problem

>> No.6202055

>>6202052
The chargebacks freezing your Paypal account are a problem.

>> No.6202078

>>6202055
Is there a legit guide on using paypal for commissions? How do artists not fear assholes who chargeback and how do they protect themselves from them?
I always stuck to ko-fi because of that

>> No.6202098

>>6202078
There are a few if you google them. You're pretty well protected if you follow basic account security and keep funds out of it, it's porn that fucks you because it's against the ToS. I can't say whether the company is more preferential towards business accounts, but usually they consider chargebacks as a form of potential fraud and open an investigation as to whether a refund was offered or asked for.

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>>6198853
Can you tell me why this chest invokes yaoi vibes?

>> No.6202208

>>6202122
Round, squishy looking pecs?

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>>6198537
Had a commissioner ages ago that wanted a basic sketch. First time working with the guy. Complete the job, hes happy. Right after the com was done he sent me 4 paragraphs of scat + vore rp and got upset when I didnt rp back.

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>>6198537
>Be me
>Got a commission for a badge.
>This client was amazing before and I thought this commission won't be different.
>Did the badge, got paid, all went well.
>I wake up with a "I didn't like this detail, can't you change it?"
>Told them sure, but after the third change I'll start to charge each time they ask me for a change.
>They start to be too damn specific with the details, like the color, line weight, shade, etc and seemed they weren't happy at all with the detail being changed.
>Like "what didn't you told me that when I asked what changes do you need me to do before to send you the second invoice?"
>On the third change, I told them I was about to charge $5 per change if they were going to continue until they were happy with the result.
>It seems they were "happy" in the end and considered the badge done (probably so they didn't ask for more reviews and charge him the price of a brand new badge).
>MFW this is the one commissioner I had to put in a black list.

>> No.6202703

>>6202122
Need to make the nipples gayer. If they're slightly puffy it instantly makes it look 1000% more gay

>> No.6202712

>get a commission for a pet portrait
>do the commission
>owner of the pet spends like 3 hours talking to me about his 11 cats

>> No.6202731

>>6202712
did he send you pictures as well?

>> No.6204182

>>6202275
This is just terrifying

>> No.6204545

>>6202078
I use DeviantArt Shop and Pixiv Requests as the middle man so no ID info between the client and me is exchanged and refunds and chargebacks are the middle man's problem, not mine. Plus neither me nor client can scam each other over.

>> No.6204558

>>6204545
What's your experience on pixiv request feature? Do pixiv users really use it for commissions or do you just direct your client to use it instead of paypal?

>> No.6204564

>>6204558
Works for me. Only times I have opted to give out direct PayPal is when the commissioners also were established artists or content creators of the genre. Other than that, yeah, commissioners have accepted the Pixiv Requests.

>> No.6204577

Anyone here actually got depression from the customers? Well i have. Alot of customers have some of the most atrocious character designs and ask you to follow their specific colorscheme choices and design elements. Alot of occasions i had to delete the abomination out of the computer as soon as i finished the job.

Also, customers who are too specific in term of details and ask you to fix so goddamn time, and vice versa, being vague and only tell you to fix after you almost done the whole thing.

>> No.6204597

>>6204577
>Alot of customers have some of the most atrocious character designs and ask you to follow their specific colorscheme choices and design elements.
God, yeah that has happened to me. One in particular was wanting me to redesign his characters so they worked better for a fighting game but rejected every iteration because I didn't keep every weird ass little detail and awful color choice. I thought I was doing well keeping to the characters vibes, personalities, and fighting styles as described but I think they were basically OCs of him and maybe friends of his, so... yeah basically I think he just wanted them redrawn better which is what I ended up doing for him but like... if you're that stuck to your shit designs then ask for a redraw, not a total redesign, you know? Pain in the ass waste of time.

>> No.6204608

>>6204597
I my opinion, if someone love his/her own shits so much, don't buy commission in the first place. They always act like they know better than the artist.

>> No.6204728

>>6204608
They are paying someone to draw their idea you bellend.

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>>6198537
>commission foreign artist
>pay for private commission
>they finish it, send it, I'm happy with it
>check their social media sites (which are english), art isn't posted, good
>they have a foreign social media account
>the art is posted there


>commission artist for fully coloured art on one of those art commission sites
>can put the money on the site but artist doesn't get it until you release it
>artist finishes art in less than a week
>commission same artist for a sketch through discord (so they don't lose money to the site), pay upfront
>2 weeks on and nothing, not even a rough sketch with stick figures
>when they're on discord their status displays the video games they are playing instead of finishing my commission

>> No.6204741

>>6204735
>>commission same artist for a sketch through discord (so they don't lose money to the site), pay upfront
>>2 weeks on and nothing, not even a rough sketch with stick figures
well, i hope you learned your lesson
dont trust people you dont know

>> No.6204751

>>6204728
Draw their idea, not copypaste their shits 1:1

>> No.6204754

I had a small hentai game project and a decent budget (around $2k) to go with it
Find a good artist, ask if he's interested.
I explain the whole thing to him. Themes, characters, scenes, we agree on the content beforehand to makensure there's no issues later.
I pay him to do the design of the first character. He does, and I'm really happy with how it turned out.
Same with the second. Same with the third.
At that point I have zero problem with him so I pay him the whole batch of scenes for the first character in one go, instead of doing it on a picture by picture basis like we did until then...
And never heard of him again

>> No.6205477

I have a regular client who is nice enough but has some sort of mental disorders. He only communicates with me through Gmail and treats it like a DM system. I've tried to encourage him onto an actual DM on other sites or to treat emails like emails, but it doesn't sink in.

I'll get an email just saying "hey" and a few minutes later "you there" etc. I have to remind him every time that I'm not online 24/7. Thank goodness Gmail collates emails from the same person into one chain or my inbox would be completely unusable

>> No.6205483

>>6202055
You can very easily when chargeback disputes.

>> No.6205484

>>6205483
Win*
I'm tired

>> No.6205573

>>6204754
Remember those scam mmo rpg games? Yeah they usually offer some playable demo and trailers until the victims fell into the trap. Similar scam tactic can be used by artists, too.

>> No.6205576

>>6205573
But if he had kept working, he would have earned more. I was barely halfway throught what I was ready to spend

>> No.6205650

>>6205576
Well you can argue that scammers can earn alot more if they don't runnaway with money and actually give real products and monetize them. But then, if you are actually smart, you would never be a scammer.

>> No.6205690

>>6205650
Seconding
>>6202712
Honesty I feel like that's a lonely person and I would feel pity, but 3 hours god lord

>> No.6205704

>>6198537
There's one dude who contacted me to make a loli peach comic for him but had some debt so couldn't start commissioning the comic yet for many months. I hope we can make it eventually

>> No.6206166

>>6205650
In most cases, scammers don't have the product they're pretending to sell

This guy had the skill to deliver what I paid him for. And I'm not a difficult customer

>> No.6206172

>>6204754
Oh my, what a waste. The guy prolly bit off more than he could chew and burnt out. If I were him I would have insisted you pay him on an image-by-image basis.

>> No.6206180

>>6206172
That's definetely a possibility but if it was the case, I would have appreciated that he answered that way when I tried contacting him again after he went radio silent.

I'm not even mad about the money, as I do spend a lot on subscriptions/commissions anyway, I'm mostly disappointed to have been ghosted

>> No.6206184

>>6198847
Sounds like he's trying to be your friend. Absolutely insane, I know.

>> No.6206189

>>6199139
Welcome to yaoi genre where the guy being fucked has a vague female ass structute.

All of those are male btw, you can notice how the tentacles are fucking his anus instead of the crotch area.

>> No.6206222

>>6206184
Well you don't have to ask for every single little thing in my life every day

>> No.6206249

>>6204608
Yeah. Clients gonna do dumb shit though.

>>6204728
Did you read? He paid me to redesign his sketches so they looked better and then hated not having every weird useless detail and shit color choice thrown together. If he wanted a redraw only thats fine, though I would have said no because of just how much shit was tacked on for no reason. Not everything a character likes has to be slapped onto them, hanging out of their pockets, a design on their clothes, etc. It's stupid.

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I only have one horror story. I was commissioned this comic and 3 days after delivery the client asked for a refund. For those of you who don't know, you don't get a notification or anything, the money simply vanishes from your account and you need to check the "dispute "tab

Fortunately, I had his emails claiming how happy he was with the commission and PayPal gave me my money back.
The email he used at an American high school @dress, so I'm guessing this was some kid who commissioned an image with mommy's credit card or something

>> No.6206255

>>6204754
Yeah never a good idea. Never pay artists up front the full amount. I never let people do it with me, I lose motivation when I get the money and then it probably didn't help that the guy refusing to just pay in 1/3rds like I asked kept asking for revisions and saying "I paid you for it, change the drawing again" but kept changing shit all the time. So yeah, always write or sign contracts with artists especially if its for a commercial product because you need them to give you rights to the images. Plus it protects both of you, them from harrassment and you from getting fucked out of money. If you have a contract and they don't deliver you can do something about it.

>> No.6206257

>>6204577
>Also, customers who are too specific in term of details and ask you to fix so goddamn time, and vice versa, being vague and only tell you to fix after you almost done the whole thing.

Your TOS (lack of it) is causing this. State in you invoice TOS the amount of changes and fixes you allow and at what point in the process.
>Oh wow it looks great! B-but could you change the hairstyle to a ponytail.I NOW realize it would look much better"
>Not my problem, read my TOS. I can change it if you pay me an extra 40$ or wtv

>> No.6206274

>>6198537 I've known a commission artist, they took a full blown month to finish a piece- all while drawing other random stuff because of the commissioner payed upfront and at the end the artist still got the rights to the image. It's somehow comforting that if this person is able to get commission so can I some day

>> No.6206400

>>6206255
Trust me, I've not paid large amounts upfront since...
I've actualy found that most artists prefer being paidnat felivery anyway

>> No.6206643

> starting off with good quality work
> client pays the deposit but spends a long time getting the rest back to me
> tells me they need the deposit back
> no it’s a done deal
> tells me they can pay the rest with crowd funding
> wtf
> says he will transfer money once he gets some kind of approval online
> sir, we are e-transfering
> sends me his gofundme page
> oh god
> resend our contract and ask him to take it down
> ignores me
> report his page to have it removed
> he contacts me about his pricing
> no this is not working
> get spammed several times before blocking
>sigh

>> No.6206741

>>6204735
What's the point of private commissions?

>> No.6206799

>>6206741
Using art for private dissemination because the contents involve shit that's no one else's business. Your tabletop group's characters, for example. Some commission concept art for personal writing projects for various technical reasons, it's not meant for promotion. Private RP groups are the third, some people don't have clearnet accounts or live in countries where that'll get you killed.

>> No.6206861

>>6206643
A gofundme to pay for a comm? Am I reading this correctly?
Jesus I want to see what that even looked like lmao

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>>6206249
You better appreciate those clients because AI art its going to steal them from you soon enough so better practicing flipping burgers because AI is the future now.

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>>6198537
You do realize artist who does commissions will soon become absolute in aa couple months once AI gets release in the public right?

>> No.6207007

>>6206916
>>6206920
>mfw ai retards trying to fear monger to kill competition

Especially in commissions, AI can't understand the fuckers who want their oc with 3 strands of purple hair, 2 blue and 18 red while the rest is black with 82349 customized pins to dry hump that chara from that animu

Maybe ngmi's like you can invest in something AI can't reach? Idea and concept wise maybeee?
>inb4 waaah there is nothing ai can't reach waaah

>> No.6207211

>>6198537
>Commission stories from both artists and commissioners.
I've had a couple people try and commission me for sketches but I didn't charge them because I don't feel like I'm good enough to charge yet.

>> No.6207221

>>6207007
Stop replying to spammers

>> No.6207291

>>6207221
I know smacking them everytime they whine works, the less welcoming ground the see the faster they fuck off, them and pepe posters.

>>6207211
If they commissioned then you were good enough, love yourself more anon

>> No.6207316

>>6207291
The other problem is I'm too lazy to set up a Paypal at the moment.

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>>6207291
A remainder that the AI art is getting much more better each day enough to make actual professional artist to shit their pants. Embrace the future or start flipping those burgers.

>> No.6207800

>>6204754
Did the hentai game get abandoned or did you continue with another artist?

>> No.6207815

>>6207800
It brought that project to an immediate stop.
I didn't want to change artist halfway throught because shifts in artstyles are an immediate turn off for me. So it meant going back entirely from the start.

I tried doing other, smaller projects, but came to the conclusion that it just was too difficult. Even with someone to take care of the art part, there is a lot more going on to make a game and I wasn't really ready for it yet.

I've since resolved to do everything myself, hence why I browse this board some time to polish my art skill. I think I'm a mid-beg at that point. But doing everything myself is a huge time commitment and it's hard to do with a full-time job at the same time

>> No.6207822

>>6207461
>much more better
Ai will quite literally never be able to recreate the image in my nor my clients heads, esl ai bot.

>> No.6208163

>>6206916
I have enough clients that I can turn down the crazy ones when they ignore the contract lmao. AI isn't good enough to steal everyones jobs yet, doomer.

>> No.6209849

>>6206274
>>6206274
>all while drawing other random stuff because of the commissioner payed upfront

That's always great to see as a commissioner let me tell you. I mean, I know an artist isn't going to work 24/7 on a comm and have to unwind but fuck. I always think, "You know, you could have worked on that commissioned I paid for upfront instead of your friend's fucking OC or the anime flavour of the month waifu."

>> No.6209921

>>6207461
these look like shit, the AI can't even figure out how to orient the US flag even though literally every image it was fed should have had it done correctly

>> No.6210105

>>6209849
Yeah dont pay more than 1/3 up front, and you need a contract. If they want money they have to work for it. Imagine paying wagies their 2 weeks in advance lmao youd have so many scammers or people that lose all motivation to work, and no reward on the end of the pay period because they already got it and basically are working off a debt. And you expect artists to act any different?

>> No.6210365

>>6204754
>>6205573
>>6205576
>>6205650
>>6206172
>>6206180
>>6206255
>>6206400
>>6207800
>>6207815

It's unfortunate that he scammed you and that the game never got finished. It's 50/50 on paying upfront or not for commissions. Some notable artists have a hard requirement for it that I understand.

Hearing stories like these are very sad since the artist would've made more from just completing the work

>> No.6210370

>>6206643
>>6206861

Seems like common sense not to commission someone if you don't have the funds

>> No.6211718

>>6198537
>that artist who has queues for their commissions
>the queue is so fucking long you won't see a sketch for 6-12 months
>they want pay upfront

>> No.6213042

>spend weeks trying to find an artist
>still can't after 2 months

>> No.6213049

>>6213042
>weeks
>months

Well which is it?

>> No.6213426

I know this is a place to share stories but is there a discord I could join to find nsfw artists?

>> No.6213462

>>6199305
link the artist anon, show us how bad you goofed

>> No.6213504

>>6211718
Good things come to those who wait anon but I agree it doesn't make any sense to have to pay upfront when you're in the queue

Who is the artist tho?

>> No.6213507

>>6213042
Either stop being so picky or start looking at some of the more popular artists on twitter and be prepared to shell out $400+ for a commission

>> No.6213735

>>6213504
It was awhile ago, I don't recall their username.

>> No.6213743

>>6213042
either you're not looking hard enough or you're looking for someone to draw some really funky niche degenerate shit

>> No.6214237

>>6213042
FlaumHalley#2696
:))))

>> No.6214480

Looking at commissions as a potential future path but before I try I just want to know: why do people even commission artwork?
They get a png in exchange for paying tens or hundreds of dollars, why would anyone bother when they can google 1000 images of whatever they want for free? And are people who do this mentally stable or is the average customer as unhinged as they sound?

>> No.6214972

>>6214480
mostly custom/personalized artwork or for commercial projects

>> No.6215015

I’m being commissioned to design shirts and a patch. How much should I charge?

>> No.6215021

>>6215015
Please design the shirt to have holes cut out where the breasts are, and for the patches to go on the nipples.

Thanks

>> No.6215026

>>6215021
The shirts are for men anon.

>> No.6215035

>>6215026
Men can have breasts

>> No.6215536

>>6202694
>They start to be too damn specific with the details, like the color, line weight, shade, etc and seemed they weren't happy at all with the detail being changed.
people who ask for changes after knowing damn well what they wanted changed should've been during the sketch phase are the worst.

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>in highschool doing commissions for gas money
> "game dev" reaches out and asks if id be interested in doing the sprites for game (no contract, paid piece by piece.)
>gets paid $15-$20 per piece until they start asking to pay next week saying that's when they'll have money.
>still expect me to finish a piece a day
>sends me rants when I don't do a piece a day saying I'm not taking my work seriously, meanwhile a full-time student and not getting paid for said work.
>starts asking me to do nsfw art
>sus but okay, I continue because money.
>asks for nsfw art for his characters who are minors, I say no and he rants again saying I'm not taking the work seriously.
>dad gets really sick is in the hospital, I have finals literally can't work
>rants again saying I'm not taking it seriously and charge backs all of the previous commissions.
>I'm 16 and have a -$350 paypal balance and $100 in unpaid work

Last time I ever worked with for "game devs"

>> No.6216271

>>6198537
Why people always say, don't offer low prices,

I always get the response of, "you're going to cannibalize the market with your prices and affect other artists".

>> No.6216438

>>6200911
>Too big to have to.

How does he make money then? Did he get a legitimate job?

>>6198847

Intimate stuff like kinks isn't something you tell complete strangers unless you want to draw attention to yourself. Maybe he feels that since you're talking about sex, there is a level of familiarity. If it bothers you that much you could tell him you are trying to keep your professional life separate from the rest of your life so that it won't come to define you.

>> No.6217209
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6217209

>>6216438
When artists reach a certain level of popularity/get too big for commissions usually it means their Patreon, subscribestar, etc. make more than enough that they can focus only on personal works/comics and don't have to take commissions.

>> No.6217678
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6217678

>>6214480
>why do people even commission artwork?
I can't speak for others, but for me, it's to get decent quality artwork of my favorite characters. Most of my favorite characters are obscure or unpopular, so the only way they get any art is if someone commissions it, or I get lucky and they suddenly become popular. That second part only happened once, and I don't think It'll happen again.

I commissioned this, because who besides me even gives a fuck about Julia Chang?(Artist is ImpalingPoetry
https://twitter.com/ImpalingP/status/1406289679792627718))

>> No.6217686

how do payments work for commisions? i dont want my name associated with smut. is it tracable? do people use crypto?

>> No.6218179

>>6217686
I don't personally care because I like money and halfway respect the job but if you run your fucking mouth or do something that endangers me and mine I will burn you alive in ways you can't even begin to imagine.

>> No.6218184

>>6217678
cute! i have also commissioned art of obscure charas I like before, would like to commission more but finding good artists that draw males is hard

>> No.6218733

>>6216438
The kink ain't even something that sexual unless you knew it was a kink from before. But that ain't what is bothering me, it's more the feeling of having to talk about my personal life. The guy's a good friend, and I know I can trust him but I just feel uncomfortable talking about what I am doing at any moment with an internet (kinda) stranger.

>> No.6218739

>>6214480
There aren't 1000 images of my fursona fucking my favorite anime character around anywhere unless I commission it.

>> No.6222438

>>6214480
you sound like my idiot father
>why did you buy that book!? You could have gone to the library and read any book there!

>> No.6222496

>>6214480
>why would anyone bother when they can google 1000 images of whatever they want for free?
how can anyone that pretends to be an artist be this clueless? Are you the AI shill?
What they want obviously doesn't exist or they wouldn't commission someone to draw it.

>> No.6222498

>>6218179
>I will burn you alive in ways you can't even begin to imagine.
you can't do anything lmao
>>6217686
>i dont want my name associated with smut. is it tracable? do people use crypto?
no one uses crypto, no. no one gives a shit about your name to bother tracing your work back to whoever you are.

>> No.6222511

>>6198537
Recently banned FFXIV OCs for commissions. Slots (150$ each, 5 slots at a time) still filled up within one hour of opening comms. Feels good

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6222979

>>6222511
Are FFXIV ocs that common? I assume they were banned because of the ridiculousness of them; I never played the game

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6223583

>>6198537
>snipes
what does this mean?

>> No.6223835

>>6223583
>no loli or illegal stuff
3 of those characters look underage

>> No.6223860

>>6223835
right?

>> No.6224776
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6224776

>>6223583
When an artist opens up few commission slots and you manage to acquire one before they're taken in minutes.

>> No.6224803

>>6224776
There's a few artists I follow that only open a few slots every once in a while.
They get filled in 10 minutes, and I only notice they posted one or two hours later

>> No.6225523

>>6222438
Well, Why didn't you go to the library fag?

>> No.6225542

>>6217686
>crypto
>privacy
kek

>> No.6225554

>>6214480
Where's the 1000s of images of your OC you stupid fucking retard?
Think before posting.

>> No.6226005

>>6213462
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/34076250

>> No.6226951

>>6198541
>140 euros for 2D art
I cannot wait for AI to take over. Maybe starving artists will go back to 3.50$ a piece like back in 2001 DeviantArt.

>> No.6226994

I honestly feel cheated when I pay for commissioned art

>> No.6226999

i heard people started to commission their unique prompts. How do i sell my ai art?

>> No.6227006

>>6226999
>sell my ai art
ah no wonder the art I bought looked like shit

>> No.6227010

>>6227006
idk i make really good prompts, my friends say i'm talented

>> No.6227353
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6227353

Earned my first non-friend commissions today. His requests are easy, and I feel on top of the world.

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6227364

>>6227353
>feel on top of the world.
as you should

>> No.6228280

>>6226994
Why?
I don't want my clients to feel cheated

>> No.6229722

>>6198537
That's a pretty nice layout for a comm sheet. Who's the artist?

>> No.6229921

>>6204735
wait isn't it normal for artist to post commissions on their social medias? This is the first time I ever saw someone complain over something like that lol

>> No.6230028

>>6229921
People like that are probably the reason why some artists' TOS have some line like "I'll be posting the finished comm on social media". I'd always thought yeah no duh artists are free to do that, a comm isn't an NDA, but I guess they met people like that anon who complained.

>> No.6232452

>>6229722
Unexist_Art Saw a character sheet they recently did on reddit

>> No.6232723

>>6232452
Much thanks anon.

>> No.6232942

>>6198537
Why the hell is this so cheap

>> No.6232999

>>6198537
Lol at these prices
I probably make more money than 99% of the artists on this board
Because i am involved in the crypto defi space, make graphics for my friend's ponzis in exchange for getting early
Theres also one dude who pays me 50$ for 10 mins of photoshopping with stolen art, people have more money than normies and are more eager to throw it away

>> No.6233876

>>6232999
Grats?

>> No.6233958

Porn is not art

>> No.6234019

>>6198566
>buttplugs and furries okay
>sex and fetish stuff = no
Literally why

>> No.6234435

>>6232942
Newbie when he made it probably. I looked at his current prices and he's charging 80 for a headshot now.

>> No.6234567

>>6216271
Higher prices mean better clients. Little jimmy might think he can slip a $15 comm past mom's notice but he isn't stupid enough to think she won't spot an unknown $75 transaction. Third worlders who can't accurately convey what they want in plain english are priced out as well. People tend to get more respectful the more you're charging too, but of course your mileage may vary.

>> No.6235241

>>6234567
People who pay recognize what their own time is worth. I deal more in limited prints (photographic silver gelatin and woodcut) and paintings and everyone who doesn't turn around and run out the door recognizes that this shit takes time and a massive amount of skill. The lowballers and lookyloos have no idea what they're looking at as far as what it takes to create. I quoted some retard $5k and half the profits on designing something that would take months and he got absolutely fuming.

>> No.6235283

>>6214480
thats like saying why do people bother buying food at restaurants when they can make food at home for cheaper and eat in privacy

>> No.6235288

How do you know what resolution to make the drawing? Do you send the file as a png?

>> No.6235312

>>6198537
how do you sell ai art?

>> No.6235318

>>6229921
>>6230028
Are you two dolts and thugs and brutes? I talked to the artist beforehand about a private work. They said yes they did private comms and I paid a small fee. They then proceeded to post the art despite all of that (on a foreign site to boot thinking I wouldn't see it). I know artists like to act the victim even when they are in the wrong but this isn't just someone 'complaining'. It was agreed to before the work even started.

>> No.6235323

>>6235288
I always ask for png files. I'm not paying you $500 so you could send me a jpg that will turn into a pixelated mess in 5 months.

>> No.6235429

>>6235318
Probably should've mentioned that in your initial post. If it was agreed upon then yeah the artist is at fault. Not sure what you can do other than get a refund or publicly put them on blast for it.

>> No.6236450

It seems like artists that do commissions stunt their growth. Can you do commissions and learn at the same time?

>> No.6236533

>>6235323
thanks and what resolution/size? is there a standard?

>> No.6236660

>>6236450
kind of, depends most of the type of commission, if you stuck with the same topic or things like the same pin-up poses for example, then you will only be working in auto-mode because you will be doing the same over and over.
The most honest way is just dedicate a time for only practice and explore, that way you dont compromise the quality of your commissions, but you are learning better ways so you can always update your prices and offers based on the new material that you are producing in those explorations, if you want, they could come worse than your current drawings but since they are just "regular drawings" is ok.

>> No.6236674

>>6235323
but you only lose quality when you transform the file and then save it again, if you just clone the file there is not lose in quality. Is stupid also to just use the original file in that case when you could just copy-paste to get a copy and working with that one, and is only gonna lose quality when you open-transform-save-close, if you just open it is not gonna lose any quality also.

>> No.6236744

>>6198537
just opened 3 slots for 115 each. They all got taken within 7 minutes. feeling good!

>> No.6236764

>>6236450
You can. If you get fussy commissioners who redlines all the shit you do, you'll improve a truckload. I had one that literally redlines the original artist reference and compares it to mine. It's a pain in the ass.

>> No.6236804

>>6236764
Is fussy like a female bussy?

>> No.6237453 [DELETED] 

>>6236764
>> If you get fussy commissioners who redlines all the shit you do, you'll improve a truckload
>>Some faggots that obviously cannot draw
>>giving fundamental advices
>>Improve

You are being improved from this, anon. You are sucking average cock.

>> No.6237455

>>6236764 #
>> If you get fussy commissioners who redlines all the shit you do, you'll improve a truckload
>>Some faggots that obviously cannot draw
>>giving fundamental advices
>>Improve

You are not being improved from this, anon. You are sucking average cock.

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6239349

Got babby's first commission and it's from a voice actor of my favorite character. Feelsgoodman

>> No.6239391
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6239391

>>6198537
I only have 3 commission stories and I guarantee none of them are interesting:

>Go on a Japanese commission site
>Lots of insanely good artists for under a hundred, only draw back is there's zero communication so you send a request and the artist does whatever and you just put up with whatever issues there are
>Guy charging 3000 yen to draw characters
>Looks pretty damn good, nobody's commissioned him yet so I send a request to draw one of my chars at 4000 yen
>Mother fucker declines

>Have a script for a video
>Go on Fiverr looking for female voice actresses
>Had something extremely specific in mind but managed to find someone who sounds pretty identical
>No idea what the system was like since commissioning voice acting is not something a normal person does
>Go overboard in my request, divide each line up and have emotion indicators plus backstory and pretty much fucking everything you can think of
>She tells me she's 1-2 days from going on hiatus for several months but she can do it
>Worried since this means revisions are impossible but say yes anyway
>MFW she actually manages to crank it out
>MFW it's fucking perfect like to a goddamn T
>Only paid like $17 USD and it sounds like a industry professional did it

>Same script same video
>This one's for a different character
>Find an okay VA, not really sure what I was looking for but whatever she fits the bill I guess
>Only like 5 lines to read, really fucking easy job
>Didn't go overboard on details this time but I did include character info and situation
>Took her 2 days to fulfill it
>Nothing really flows, every line delivered feels like it's own entity if that makes sense
>Still sounds good though but I can't use it in a conversation like I planned since one line is happy while the next is dead serious for some fucking reason
>Was going to ask for revisions but I misclicked on accept

>> No.6239421

>>6239391
>Japanese commission site
What site is this?

>> No.6239609

>>6239421
nta but google skeb

>> No.6239801

>>6239609
Much appreciated anon.

>> No.6240964

>>6228280
>not meeting the self-imposed deadline and no email making the client feel like they forgot about the commission
>multiple excuses when missing a deadline or not emailing the client with updates on agreed schedule (e.g. once a week or so on small projects)
>obviously rushed quality compared to the sample image
>making the client pay more than the price that was first agreed upon
>noticing a mistake days after they delivered the message knowing it can't be fixed
I'll be nice to the artist and respect their time but I wouldn't repeat business with them if they did any of this. Don't @ me.

>> No.6241338

>>6239391
Post the character you send the Japanese guy to draw

>> No.6242392

I commissioned myself and had a good time

>> No.6242502
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6242502

I've got one real horror story client that so far remains the only person on my public blacklist.

>Client buys several adopts from me on several different occasions, always very happy
> Client decides to commission several flat color traditional drawings for a total of $100
> Does not send character references for four months
> Finally sends references and gets upset that they are at the back of the queue
> Sends passive aggressive DM about how I could just refund them if they have to keep waiting
> I remind them that they took four months to send me the character references and I had other commissions to work on that gave their references immediately
> I slam out all the commissions in three days and mails them out so I don't get a hissy fit from them
> Lets client know that I would not take any commissions from them in the future
> Client loses their shit and I have to block them
> Client sends me an email requesting a refund for every adopt they ever bought from me or they would dispute with paypal
> It's been well over the dispute period time so I don't give a shit and I remind them that I don't take refunds on adopts
> Client threatens a chargeback
> I warn them that paypal would most likely ban their account if they filed a chargeback through their bank
> Blocks client's email
> Nothing ever comes of it

Thank god I'm no longer a "kawaii" artist and I don't get crazy people like this anymore.

>> No.6242638

>>6242502
I'm new here. What is an "adopt?"

>> No.6242642

>>6242638
>draw someone or some-thing with random selection of clothes
>put it up for sale
>someone buys 'the character with a fashionable look'
an adopt. usually an animal (but sometimes a woman )in skimpy clothing

>> No.6242652

>>6242642
>for sale
I think this is the part where I'm confused. All my stuff is always for sale.

How does it work? They'd obviously get a larger resolution but... Then what?

>> No.6242663

>>6242652
nta but you're basically selling someone the character design of the artwork you did and the buyer is free to do whatever they want with the drawing

>>6242502
>several flat color traditional drawings for a total of $100
there's your problem. Charge your works higher so you don't get weirdos like this. See anons reply >>6234567

>> No.6242673

>>6242663
>nta but
Ok. So it's loose and just whatever for a preexisting work. Thanks guise.

>> No.6242699

>>6242652
you may have heard the statement "i'm also selling the rights to the character" in the same conversations as well

>> No.6242700

>>6242638
Do a search for "adoptables" on DA or insta or wherever for some examples.

>> No.6242816

>>6242502
>> Lets client know that I would not take any commissions from them in the future
How do I know if an artist hates my request?

>> No.6243448

>>6242816
If they rejected your request or half assed compared to the other batch idk

>> No.6243900

>/aco/missuon threads move to trash over drama
>it dies
one guy had to ruin it for everyone

>> No.6244044

>>6243900
what happened

>> No.6244324

>>6244044
>some rando scams clients with crypto
>people report him
>too many reports from one thread
>janny deletes any mention of the threads without explanation
>thread moves to /trash/
>artists give up posting their info
>thread dies

>> No.6244379

>>6244324
Why not just limit the payment option to not-crypto in the tos

>> No.6244387

>>6244379
mods never said anything

>> No.6244424

>>6244379
>>6244387
That falls under advertising or selling services and is banned. Other forums barely tolerate it and have better ways to deal with it.

>> No.6244652

>>6222979
i have been drawing some people for free to get some practice because i want to start taking commissions.
My art is line art based and the outfits are really ridiculously detailed and time consuming. im assuming that is why.

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>>6198537
>be me
>enjoy character design
>it's all i ever draw
>get a commission
>it's not for a character design
>mfw

>> No.6244763

>>6244324
some guy traces and scams people and kept ban evading so mods just all together deleted threads I'd heard
now the threads are on life suppprt in /trash/

>> No.6245357

>>6204577
>Alot of customers have some of the most atrocious character designs and ask you to follow their specific colorscheme choices and design elements.
This happens to me all the time since I do furries, but I never complain about it because I don't want to undermine my own market.
All I'll say is, when drawing for these autistic communities, you need to change your mindset to a very business-minded one, rather than empathetic one. Disassociating helps me forget.

>> No.6245373

>>6217678
This makes me think, did you get a non-watermarked version?
Would be kinda shitty if shelled out a bunch fo cash an they put their big, fat watermark on the piece.

>> No.6245379

>>6217678
>meditating in a forest
bitch, you've never been in the woods, there are mosquitos and other bugs that eat you alive

>> No.6245702

I never did any comm. work and it's quite an annoying place to be. What platform should I even start with? And what kinds of things are the best as example images?

Also, is there any coin in designs for sites like Redbubble? I did literally nothing for money online so the basest of starts would be useful.

>> No.6245721

>>6245702
First thing is build an audience. If there's interest people will naturally approach you for comms. That's how I got my first guy without even advertising about it.

>> No.6245786

>>6245721
What's the best platform to start that? Twitter, Ig, Fiverr?
Kinda creatively starved atm, but I guess I should think of something to build the account I already have on ig. Don't know if there's buyers on there.

>> No.6245824

>>6245786
Anywhere that fits the stuff you draw and "gets your name out there", so to speak. Social media accounts are free anyway, takes minimal effort to post to all of them.

>> No.6245828

>>6245786
Do a tarot majors series with some flavor of the week show in your sphere of interest, that's usually a good prompt and gets loyal engagement. People like a little bit of magic. The site doesn't really matter as long as you have an audience and say you're accepting commissions.