/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6194416]

Honest criticism on my art please

[Anonymous No.6194787]

Practice more. Literally everything is bad I don't know what to tell you other than that.

[Anonymous No.6194788]

you should stop stalking arthoes on social media

[Anonymous No.6194856]

>>6194416
Good job on the left thigh. The rest looks like shit especially the legs and feet.
You've got an idea of what you want now you just need to start improving

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6194872]

>>6194787
Thanks?
>>6194856
Yea I agree, the legs look off. I don't know how to draw them at all lol. Otherwise, it's just practice, the more I do it the better I'll get.

[Anonymous No.6194875]

>>6194416
Go to /beg/

[Anonymous No.6194879]

>>6194872
Specifically practice drawing from reference and work on getting your linework less scratchy. I might have sounded a little harsh in my post but you're at a good stage to jump into learning more. I remember when I was at your level, I really wish now that I started going hard learning the fundamentals back then. Don't just randomly practice either really study and learn how to observe things and how to break down the seperate forms. Enroll into some classes or torrent some books, that'll set you on the right path.

[Anonymous No.6194985]

>>6194416
you're disgusting, get out of this website retard, who invited you anyways

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6195981]

>>6194416
Only bumping since I changed up the style a bit, thoughts?

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6195982]

>>6195981
Another one

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6195983]

>>6195982
One more, please give me honest criticism as I would like to improve

[Anonymous No.6195984]

garbage childish scribbles.

[Anonymous No.6195989]

this is a true work of art man.

[Anonymous No.6196003]

>>6194416
learn figure drawing

[Anonymous No.6196122]

>>6195983
Can you provide an art piece you are trying to recreate the art style of?

You're clearly not going for realism - which is fine, but it will help with providing critiques and showcase what you are missing

I may red-line this later too just to show some of the major issues

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6196130]

>>6196122
I'm just kinda doing my own style. I do want my proportions to be correct though, I think that's where I struggle the most

[Anonymous No.6196161]

shitty scribbles aren't a 'style'

[Anonymous No.6196315]

>>6196130
Having a unique style is great, but at the moment it's more important to focus on the fundamentals. You can focus on style later. Think of it this way: style is like dancing, while fundamentals are being able to stand and walk. You need the fundamentals before you start getting fancy.

I'm order to understand proportion you need to draw from references of real human bodies. Once you've got that down, you can exaggerate features in a way that looks good. There are very subtle things about the human body every person is subconsciously familiar with. The way a woman's tits hang when she's stretching forward vs how they look if she laying on her side. The way muscles bunch in specific poses etc If you don't understand these subtle things and learn to incorporate them in your work, your subjects will look wrong to you and your viewers.

Look for some resources on constructive anatomy. Andrew Loomis is basically the default. Strive to draw realistically first, and then opt for stylised drawings. Because cartoons look simple many mistakenly believe cartoons first then realism is the way to go isn't. Good cartoon drawings are built on a solid understanding of anatomy. This is why all the anime drawings you see on social media are so fucking god awful. The artists who designed those characters studied realistic anatomy. The people aping them haven't.

[Anonymous No.6196370]

Keep practicing

[Anonymous No.6196374]

I can tell you've been drawing for a couple of years, but without practicing proper form.

[Anonymous No.6196589]

>>6195983
>>6196130
>I'm just kinda doing my own style.

This is simply an excuse to mask your lack of knowledge - as others have said go back to the fundamentals - or at the very least study some character designs you like and go from there

Right now the character has a just genuinely weird body - like you can tell you know how to draw, but just haven't studied

It comes off lumpy and disproportionate - I'm pretty /beg/ myself, but check out the red-lines I've done - I've kept the head the same size, but I'm not sure what you are going for - is the character chubby and short? Or just big titted and otherwise normal proportions?

Keep at it though, you can tell you are interested in drawing, but it feels like this is the first time you are trying to take it seriously

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6196617]

>>6196589
Thank you, this really helps.
>>6196315
I do need to figure out anatomy. Honestly, drawing men has always been something I've been better at, but posing, proportions, perspective all of that screws with me. But thank you for the advice, I'll look that up to get better.

[Anonymous No.6196620]

>>6194856
>Good job on the left thigh.
I lost

[Anonymous No.6196636]

Your girlfriend is aron hanson

[Anonymous No.6199201]

>>6194416
easiest way to improve quickly here is simple imo. You are using many short lines in place of a few long ones. You should aim to draw major lines (contour of the legs, arms etc) from the elbow or shoulder and then use your wrist for short details (hair flicks, skin folds etc), it will take practice and feel a bit clunky at first but it is absolutely worth it.

Beyond that, in pic related you aren't considering that the arm is 3 dimensional. The tattoos need to wrap around her arm, so even head-on they wont appear perfectly flat to the viewer.

All that aside, props for drawing the hands. Its easy to pussy out of drawing more complicated body parts like hands and feet but its always worth it

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6199241]

>>6199201
Thank you, I'll use this advice for future draws. Tattoos are other small details are hard to manage, but hey I'll never get better if I don't try lol.

[Anonymous No.6199292]

>>6194416
It's always interesting that the true beginners are NEVER in the beginner/intermediate thread and yet, there are a lot of really decent artists in there.

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6199509]

>>6194416
Most recent drawing of her, tried to fix her body and also fix her legs. Thoughts please

[Anonymous No.6199524]

10/10 oc. I nutted to ber 5 times

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6199526]

>>6199524
Bro have you seen the porn of her yet though???

[Anonymous No.6201153]

>>6194416
ok im with >>6194787
but lets give this a shot

first off proportions, humans are generally half their height is their legs alone, +- depending on person,
second would probably be anatomy, and i'm not saying you need perfect anatomy, but what I am saying is knowing a bit on how to place muscles will go a long way, take the arm and wrist as an example, shit is never a straight line, knowing how muscles shape it would give you a better way to curve. knowing the skeletal form would, by tits, let you have a well dwan frame rather than 2 'ok' tits on what is barely better than a stick figure.
on the full body, the right and left arm are different sizes entirely, while there is no foreshortening in the piece, given that reference sheets are usually made without any perspective at all, orthographic, then they should be the same size, it would probably help to do some proportion exercises
for hair, look up 3d sculpting hair videos... fuck me there use to be far better videos on this, but this one probably will help the most https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqWYgrXw7Jk largely, treat hair as groups hair rather that individual strands, you kind of do that here, but that's more because you are VERY basic, I have no doubt that when/if you get better, you would try to draw strands instead of clumps.

so, what I suggest if

bargue plates, archive should have the book for free, it will help you with measured proportions

study the skeletal form, it will vastly improve the frame you draw people with

learn major muscle groups, the shit that everyone knows and if its off, even normies can tell.

that is at least where i would start if you wanted to get better, rember, when practicing draw realism/with reference so you can never tell yourself 'its your style', you have an objective 'I fucked up here, what can I do ti improve/how did I fuck up' to get better off of.

[Anonymous No.6201263]

>>6194416
draw from reference, practice construction. practice building figures using simple cubes, cylinders, and spheres

[Anonymous No.6201272]

>>6194416
It's dogshit

[Anonymous No.6201274]

>>6201272
hey that's kind of offensive to dogshit. At least they can be manure for plants or food for flies

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6201340]

>>6201153
>>6201263
Thank you, I have been practicing from reference and have been trying to prove proportions. This is my recent drawing of the character here >>6199509 and personally I do think it looks better. Arms, legs, muscles, all that stuff screws with me hella.

[Anonymous No.6201586]

>>6201340
I suggest female body builders, typically they will more or less have a more 'normal' body shape than men do while being so low body fat that muscles pop.

you also want reference with defined light sources/hard light, a bit harder to find, but it makes drawing off the reference SO much easier in the beginning.

in >>6199509
the arm on the right overlaps weirdly, someone else may know what that's called, but this is a good place to use reference of a real person to see how that would look.

[Anonymous No.6202512]

>>6194416
You have gotten som great advice already in this thread. Keep practicing anatomy, don't be afraid to copy from artists you look up to, and shit like that, but here's another one

Keep drawing whatever you want to draw. Whatever that makes it the most fun.
For me, whenever I feel burned out, I step aside from the commissions, and make a new canvas, and just draw the most vile ugliest fucking faces and cocks i can muste rup. Because that's what I find fun. Also personal art of course.

My point is, draw shit you find fun drawing. Of course we need to step aside to study sometimes, which can be boring as fuck in the beginning. but you when you start seeing that progress, you will find the practice more fun. You just have to be open, and admit to yourself that you're making progress. The keyword here is "admitting"

Draw shit you find fun to draw. Draw whatever you want

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6202560]

>>6202512
Thank you, I have been trying to see a bunch of different styles of my character to see what I can mix and match and make my own. More than anything though, I'm just doing limb practice. I'll get better lol, as long as I keep practicing. Thank you for the Delilah art also!

[Anonymous No.6202828]

>>6199509
I drew the chest first on the one on the right. Someone showed me that focusing on one part of the drawing instead of how it works with the rest is not good.

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6202866]

>>6202828
I love your style lol. And also, I do, but it's mostly just the face and yea her tits too lol. With that drawing specifically I was trying to take into account how big her head needs to be relative to her arms, body, legs, because those are the mains things I have struggled with. I do think proportion wise, that is the best drawing I have done, but of course I know her legs need more work and definitely her hands as well. Sorry for the long post lol, thank you for the advice!

[Anonymous No.6202884]

>>6201340
that's good, that seems to be what's really holding you back. here's a video that i found helpful. https://youtu.be/L303Qy6rivs

[Anonymous No.6202895]

>>6201272
>>6201274
Be nice. We're all like that at the beginning. OP definitely has potential.

[Eduardo "Lalo" Salamanca No.6202907]

>>6202884
Thank you lol, I'll give that a watch now before bed.