/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6190312]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6180619

[Anonymous No.6190322]

How do I learn sketching, construction and line quality so I can draw faster?

[Anonymous No.6190327]

>>6190322
peter pan

[Anonymous No.6190336]

>>6190259
Try to learn how to sketch if you don't dislike sketches. Use loose lines, say 5px pressured-opacity fixed-size brush, don't undo and erase often, put second line over first if you want make it thicker. Look at the pic. There is a firs very loose blue sketch, second sketch over it and thin final line after all (and maybe stabilized). Watch "sketching" videos in YT and Vilppu's course. Watch 奏音's works. Good sketch even can be colored. And don't try to make an ideal line at first try. Houtengeki can do this (after 5 undos) because he is pro. You don't need it. As a last chance there is a liqufy tool.

[Anonymous No.6190341]

>>6190336
Is it normal that I would need 14 hours to draw something like you posted?

[Anonymous No.6190343]

>>6190259
Also there is my very old sketch (study from ほろ雪).

[Anonymous No.6190347]

>>6190341
only if you're beg

[Anonymous No.6190349]

>>6190341
If whole pic including final line - yes for beginner. If sketched heads only takes 14 hours maybe you overdo it? My study from this pic took about 0.5-1 hour at max including distractions to read internets (I was very beg).

[Anonymous No.6190357]

>>6190341
it means you're still bad at observation
copy more, focus on quantity at this stage rather than quality

[Anonymous No.6190358]

>>6190347
Then I am permabeg.

[Anonymous No.6190362]

>>6190347
most begs are begs because they can't spend 14 hours on something that simple.

[Anonymous No.6190364]

>>6188181
Thanks anon.

>>6186153
>>6188046
Since i couldnt drawn yesterday, i decide to do it today but with pencil. It looks more decent than the previous ones.

[Anonymous No.6190367]

>>6190322
thumbnailing

[Anonymous No.6190441]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbF1g3k2mtw

[Anonymous No.6190482]

>>6190312
Is the pic in OP really the best you /asg faggots can muster?
Anime fans truly ngmi

[Anonymous No.6190484]

Give me the rundown /ic/. What do I do to improve? What area am I worst on? I just want to draw cute girls. Critiques whale cum.

[Anonymous No.6190487]

>>6190484
westoid crap/10
I wanna smash that face so hard nigger

[Anonymous No.6190518]

>>6190484
Show a pics of what is cute for you if you won't answers other than >>6190487. Never be sure that anon's taste is same as your.

[Anonymous No.6190540]

>>6190484
not anime

[Anonymous No.6190601]

>>6190482
there were like 3 much better studies posted in last thread, so i don't know why op chose this one. and i say that as the fag that posted the pic related in the first place. maybe to showcase typical beginner errors or smth

[Anonymous No.6190610]

>>6190601 (me)
>>6190312
also i tried a bit harder today, but i still messed a lot. i'll color it tomorrow cause its late and i need to wake up early for work

[Anonymous No.6190612]

>>6190518
Picrel is cute
Your art is not anime and just screams calarts/ trannie/westoid shit

[Anonymous No.6190625]

>>6190610
crotch is visiable why didn't draw it properly
sorry for not doing proper redline did it in paint with mouse

[Anonymous No.6190632]

>>6190625
damn, thats true, i'm blind

[Anonymous No.6190670]

studying a cute moron

[Anonymous No.6190671]

>>6190610
go back to doing accuracy exercises if you dont wanna spend a lot of time

[Anonymous No.6190695]

Why is copying called "studies"?

[Anonymous No.6190709]

How is it anon

[Anonymous No.6190721]

>>6190695
try it and find out.

[Anonymous No.6190897]

>>6190364
Are you using references? If not, you really should.

This looks like some white person's drawing from their vague memory of what they think a stereotypical anime character looks like.

[Anonymous No.6190994]

>>6190612
How do I color like the left? Like digitally how is the layer process?

[Anonymous No.6191057]

>>6190709
A little bit bad but not too bad anon.
Just middle of the pack.
Keep going, beat the average.
Adapt, overcome, evolve.
Annihilate.

[Anonymous No.6191060]

>HAIL TO THE GREENGANG AND MAY YOUR GAINS BE PLENTIFUL! ;^)
>HAIL TO THE GREENGANG AND MAY YOUR GAINS BE PLENTIFUL! ;^)
>HAIL TO THE GREENGANG AND MAY YOUR GAINS BE PLENTIFUL! ;^)
>HAIL TO THE GREENGANG AND MAY YOUR GAINS BE PLENTIFUL! ;^)
ENJOY YOUR BEAUTIFUL AND PRODUCTIVE /asg/ STUDY DAY ANONS! ;^)

[Anonymous No.6191140]

[Anonymous No.6191146]

>>6190312
I copy alot of Hajime Ueda inspired artists

[Anonymous No.6191147]

>>6191146
This one's post was copied from Postal 2's box art though

[Anonymous No.6191161]

[Anonymous No.6191180]

>>6191161
The futa threads thataways friend

[Anonymous No.6191201]

Which artists draw good hands? Need some examples to study from.

[Anonymous No.6191212]

>>6191201
Kohei Horikoshi the artist of My Hero Academia is said to be someone that loves drawing hands and is really good at it. He even made a super villain Tomura who's power is based on hands.

[Anonymous No.6191301]

>>6190312
Anyone has a personal accuracy practice lvl other than that pastebin link?

[Anonymous No.6191319]

Where can I download reference poses photos for free?

[Anonymous No.6191330]

>>6190484
Stop hiding hands.

[Anonymous No.6191342]

please help, i want to do good line art with different weight, but my stuff is one single weight.
I tried playing around with the pen pressure but it's really finicky.
If i press harder it goes too hard and and lighter make the stroke almost non existant.

[Anonymous No.6191349]

>>6190312
Bros I need some help with understanding how to twist forms. My figures look too stiff and overly fatty when I try to twist them.

[Anonymous No.6191390]

Does anyone know what brush this is?
I pretty sure I saw something similar on CSP Assets...

[Anonymous No.6191414]

I think I am finally starting to get the hang of things.

[Anonymous No.6191422]

>>6191349
look at the first chapters of the 3 books, vilppu drawing manual, hamptons figure design and invention and bridgmas complete drawing from life

the first chapters of each book shows gesture and how to twist the body and its 3D forms, i say look into all 3 because what one lacks the other 2 may have to it will be less confusing, especially since its only the first parts of each book so it isnt boring work

[Anonymous No.6191427]

>>6191349
Can you post example? I'm interested to drawing chubby cuties using Villpu's techniques. But I'm don't tried to bend yet.

[Anonymous No.6191461]

>>6191342
using one line to achieve full line weight is a meme
most artists just slowly building up their lines

[Anonymous No.6191488]

>>6189664
its a good copy
>>6191414
it finally clicked? cool, keep on going you'll get where you are going

[Anonymous No.6191495]

>>6191414
tell us! What did you find out?

[Anonymous No.6191513]

>>6191319
Make a video of you making poses you want and take screenshots of the video with VLC or something.
Even the most bargain bin camera can record poses.

[Anonymous No.6191585]

I found cp site today and already regret it

I think i'll stick to anime references

[Anonymous No.6191616]

can anyone explain to me what concept krenz was reffering here?

[Anonymous No.6191635]

>>6191495
I feel like with enough accumulation of knowledge and techniques and with enough practice there comes a point where you have the overall creative process internalized and this leads to exponentially faster improvement as you keep progressing because you can instantly tell what skills needs improvement or what knowledge is lacking when tackling a new piece and how to go about finding a solution. I'd describe this like solving a jigsaw puzzle, shit is disorienting at the start but when you have enough of the picture connected together it gets easier to find missing pieces. My future progress will tell me if this hunch is correct!

[Anonymous No.6191648]

>>6191616
https://d15v304a6xpq4b.cloudfront.net/lesson_images/57a457e5.jpg
stole from Drawabox website

[Anonymous No.6191688]

>>6190897
i tried drawing her, but only the face.
Any tips to improve or a good book for improving please?

[Anonymous No.6191705]

>>6191648
THNX anon

[Anonymous No.6191709]

>>6190610
>>6190625
>>6190671
anons please help me i'm going crazy. i've been in the middle of doing color when the derpy stupid face i drew started annoying me. so i tried reworking it several times. nothing helped. i started cheating with selection and transform tools on eyes nose and mouth, trying to get it to work. but it still looks shit. why the hell is she still looking to the right, not at the viewer? i tried moving the pupils and highlights, changing eye size and position and i just can't get it, i'm too retarded for this

[Anonymous No.6191714]

>>6191688
your observation is fucked up, try this if you dont wanna spend a lot of time leveling it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5Qn_Iwv9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZnvXBh341I
i recommend to not overdo it, you can still copy other drawings that you like but it will take longer

[Anonymous No.6191715]

>>6191414
Yeah it's starting to come together. It's not perfect but you're getting close to being good.
How long have you been drawing for? And I mean like seriously drawing, daily grinding and whatnot

[Anonymous No.6191733]

>>6191714
>>6190312
btw do you have any vids/articles from jap artists who recommend copying and accuracy training? cause my jap is better than my chink, and anime style is still the strongest there, so might as well take it from the source. but when i tried googling it around, it seems a lot of the jap youtubers are a bit on the edge about it, saying "copying is mostly useless outside of specific cases" etc. and that you should just draw more

[Anonymous No.6191748]

>>6191714
Observation? Ummm, i'll try watching the videos and learn about it. Thanks a lot.
I tried tdrawing his today, but it looks weird.

[Anonymous No.6191773]

I wish I could draw anime girls and backgrounds...
How do I master all elements of a picture?

[Anonymous No.6191775]

>>6190336
sorry if it's a dumb obvious question, what's the 奏音 you're mentioning here? I tried looking on youtube, twitter, and pixiv but only found music artists

[Anonymous No.6191783]

>>6191775
奏音@しぐおん世-28 https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1259741

[Anonymous No.6191786]

>>6191714
just reading keys to drawing to get actual instruction instead of watching some random chinkshit is surely better.

[Anonymous No.6191794]

>>6191783
thank you

[Anonymous No.6191808]

>>6191488
>its a good copy
Thanks.
Even I noticed some shading that didn't make much sense while going through it. After some more learning and practice I'll come back to it and try and do a better version of it.

[Anonymous No.6192071]

>>6190610
>>6191709
alright, my hand really hurts, so i'm leaving it at that. i think i bit off more than i could chew by starting with this, i'll do what the other anons say and just do basic shape accuracy training like in the krenz vids for now

[Anonymous No.6192293]

>>6191714
Another question, im >>6191748 with the observation problem.

So, after watching the excercises and the Krenz video it seems like i should stop using the circle and lines method and now use geometric forms?

[Anonymous No.6192325]

>>6191783
Can I study and practice _basic_ forms and figure with his pictures or I should use bare blanks like this or anatomical books? Figures I see in drawing books are far from ones I like in other's pictures, and artists I like don't do drawing guides.

[Anonymous No.6192330]

>>6191773
One step after another

[Anonymous No.6192358]

>>6192330
But what steps first?

[Anonymous No.6192360]

>>6192358
Draw a compostion of primitive forms with some drappery like in old fashioned russian art academy

[Anonymous No.6192362]

>>6192360
>like in old fashioned russian art academy
Hmm? Could you elaborate? Or link?

[Anonymous No.6192366]

>>6192362
Don't you know that in russian unis or coleges they draw with pencil on paper mostly?
Like you atleast must be able to copy from still life to even go there, first year you mostly draw friuts, drappery, cubes etc
Then they start teaching anatomy and drawing people from still life again with pencil
https://youtu.be/qt-LP8gBiZM

[Anonymous No.6192372]

>>6192366
I'm not Russian, how would I know? Thanks anon, this sounds helpful.

[Anonymous No.6192374]

>>6192372
Well i'm russian but i thought people here knew that about our unis already
Or atleast i've some talking about it

[Anonymous No.6192391]

>>6191748
Forget about Krenz (the Chinese stuff). A certain portion of anons here have a certain aim and it suits them and that's cool, but from the look of it it's not what you need at all.

Try these two channels to get started instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSf0UYDi9sA&list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEKKwKZtWU
to get a feel on how to further conceptualize heads in 3D, since right now your stuff is pretty flat.

[Anonymous No.6192398]

>>6192293
There's no should. Get exposed to techniques and pick what sticks best with you.

[Anonymous No.6192405]

>>6192391
Krenz is a grifter. None of the shit in his videos teach anything immediately useful apart from tiny specs of knowledge among his ramblings and memes to pad out his 3hr+ lectures. He doesn’t teach any useful workflow and the concepts he teaches has no bearing on how he actually draws. He never teaches how to reach his level of art ability and that is by design - so he can sell more courses.

[Anonymous No.6192427]

>>6192405
Why do you think people only link to one useful initial lecture that tells you it's okay to copy and you shouldn't beat yourself up over doing it?

[Anonymous No.6192434]

>>6192405
Then explain his hundreds of students.

[Anonymous No.6192468]

>>6191715
I started seriously at the start of this year, was focused more on rendering but realised a few months back that I didn't understand the anatomy I was trying to render and my pieces were permabeg level so went to just drawing. Prior to this I was doing stupid shit like drawing 1 box every other day and shitposting on /ic/ spaced out between long gaming sessions, this lasted for a year. Maybe there was some knowledge and stuff gained in that time, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.6192476]

>>6192434
Man is fallible.

[Anonymous No.6192505]

>>6192434
There's a sucker born every minute.

[Anonymous No.6192575]

Any advice on drawing chibi stuff?

[Anonymous No.6192596]

I'm still confused about krenz. Feedback would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6192599]

>>6192434
It says a lot about the quality of teaching since of his students can draw like him. All his courses are just fundies repackaged.

To learn to draw like him, all he needs is to teach his process, which he has never done.

[Anonymous No.6192604]

>>6192596
There is only one thing he is right about, which is copy artists you like. He convinently forgot to tell you that you need to copy their workflow as well (which is 10x more important than copying the final image).

[Anonymous No.6192620]

>>6192604
How do you copy their workflow? Youtube stream follow alongs?

[Anonymous No.6192645]

>>6192604
>He convinently forgot to tell you that you need to copy their workflow as well
No he didn't. Didn't he have a whole thing where he made fun of people copying him because they didn't know the full process he used, one of the only times he's allowed people to have a glimpse behind the curtain?

[Anonymous No.6192646]

>>6192620
That's the way, also daily pen only drawing and gesture rep

[Anonymous No.6192664]

>>6190484
It's very hard to take this seriously.

[Anonymous No.6192667]

>>6192645
Yes that's why he's a faggot.
Because that's what's important.

[Anonymous No.6192673]

>>6192434
Every teacher has 100s of students, but how many actually credited krenz as the reason they succeed. Can you show me 3 successful students of his?

[Anonymous No.6192750]

>>6192673
I can't show 3 all I know is kawacy considers him an art god so I don't know man he's not bad

[Anonymous No.6192767]

>>6192673
How many Chinese artists do you know? Because he only teaches in Chinese. There's a number of them that make videos going through the homework assignments and they're all very competent. They also seem to be pretty young.

Also moderndayjames credits him. I don't know how many people in the west even know about him but he's pretty famous throughout Asia.

[Anonymous No.6192774]

https://youtu.be/qTsxeADkwDg

[Anonymous No.6192786]

>>6192604
>you need to copy their workflow as well
Can anyone recommend anime artists whose workflows are decently documented?

[Anonymous No.6192801]

Fate character fanart wip

[Anonymous No.6192838]

tacos tips make me laugh because theyre so basic. If papago is correct then it just says that both horns should be different from each other

[Anonymous No.6192845]

I really like pictures from early 00s - pre 10s, often especially the coloring. Besides referencing, what should I do and know in order to replicate that art style? I hope my question wasn't too vague so that it's impossible to answer. I remember asking about this long time ago on another board and one anon said something about how old software influences the end result, any idea what could he have meant with this?

[Anonymous No.6192853]

>>6192845

Doesn't have to be just coloring, I'd appreciate anything related to early 00s art style(s) and ways to imitate it. Line art, what tools / pens etc. should be used, trends in how eyes or hair were drawn etc. Again fairly vague, but I'll appreciate anything.

[Anonymous No.6192877]

>>6192391
Funny that I'm seeing this here now, I have watched hide channels full head course and I feel like I've really underrated that channel. Never bothered because it seemed like he mostly posts 1 hour videos of him sketching while talking. It's about the most comprehensive head course I've seen so far even though he's basically just using loomis he's explaining it more detailed and with extra steps, also how to adapt it to anime style.

[Anonymous No.6192883]

>>6192786
I have been copying/studying Lack’s work.

https://m.youtube.com/user/lackism/videos

[Anonymous No.6192909]

>>6192575
Read the pic (on the Archive), feel the form, simplify all. Don't forget to lower the eyes. Watch some modelling and sculpting videos, it can be useful. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXx5TEUn0Q0 You didn't say your current level, maybe there is no anything new for you.

[Anonymous No.6193043]

>>6192909
Thanks for the resources anon. What I posted is my current level.

[Anonymous No.6193058]

>>6192845
the software hasn't changed that much since then. early 90s, back before the world ended, is a different story.

[Anonymous No.6193081]

>>6192877
He's very thorough. If you understand Japanese and are patient his channel is pretty much the best one I can think of on top of my head.
As you can expect with analytical thinkers though, he's not good at promoting himself and his business isn't appealing, hence the low view count compared to people like Saitou or Marc etc.

>>6192853
This is a vague question. Not all artists from that time drew the same way. It's a bit as if in 30 years from now someone was asking "how to draw like in the 2020s": there wouldn't be a single answer.
So my advice would be actually to work on comprehending what you like first, otherwise you can't know what to study or look for if you're not even sure yourself.
Start with one artist (or an anime) from that time period you like best, and study them for some time.
From a process standpoint, same story here. Work at finding a process which suits the person you are and the result you want (what you posted so far isn't really different to what's made nowadays in essence, only the style aka lines is/are).

[Anonymous No.6193089]

How do I into clothes?

[Anonymous No.6193091]

>>6192801
Very western looking.

[Anonymous No.6193221]

>100k likes
https://twitter.com/k4itoh/status/1553304629558923264
https://k4ito.fanbox.cc/posts/4207986
Just learn 3D LOL

[Anonymous No.6193232]

>>6193221
Pretty sure that only helps for the figure and the basic big shapes. How is this any different to using something like CSP's 3D models as a guide instead?

[Anonymous No.6193241]

>>6193221
How do they get their models to look good? I've actually tried this with design doll and the result is always crappy and stiff.

[Anonymous No.6193242]

>>6193089
you need to know your basic forms and have a good grasp of the human figure to draw competent drappery, but from all the books about drappery i've read i recommend Morpho's book, it's very practical if you just want to copy some basic folds

[Anonymous No.6193309]

>>6192801
This is my biggest fear. How do I avoid developing a '''style''' like this?

[Anonymous No.6193315]

>>6193309
by actually copying artists you like

[Anonymous No.6193330]

>>6193221
I will never use a 3d model. That's cheating anon.

[Anonymous No.6193336]

>>6193091
>>6193309

:'(

[Anonymous No.6193337]

>>6193315
they don't have youtube streams or even sped up twitter videos though, do I wing it by copying the finished product?

[Anonymous No.6193338]

>>6193221
I was starting to learn blender over a decade ago.
Ahh, if only I had kept at it...

[Anonymous No.6193341]

>>6193337
I'd recommend if you are a high-beg to draw with "hide channel". That's help me to drawing some of my own stuff.

[Anonymous No.6193347]

>>6193341
Thanks, right now I'm low /beg/. Sometimes, I think I regress further to /prebeg/ and I look at my own doodles from when I was a kid and feel mogged by the sheer soul and passion emanating off of those pages.

[Anonymous No.6193351]

>>6193337
yes just copy the finished artwork, the goal here is to build muscle memory and intuition

[Anonymous No.6193541]

>copy an artwork
>it comes out nice
>try to draw something by myself
>it's fucking shit
How do I escape this hell? I'm tired of copying

[Anonymous No.6193568]

>i will pick some nice and easy request and draw something quick
>5 hours later exhausted and hating myself
>it's rushed and not finished
>learned literally nothing
I unironically don't want to draw. I only want to draw when I am not drawing. Think about drawing. I don't know what to do improve.

[Anonymous No.6193643]

>>6193541
use reference after you have a shitty version to fill in the gaps and make a good version.

[Anonymous No.6193666]

>>6193241
you have to apply gesture to the models just like you would a normal drawing

[Anonymous No.6193668]

>>6193666
How do you apply gesture? What is it?

[Anonymous No.6193678]

>>6193309
Do you understand what you don't like in this style&

[Anonymous No.6193685]

>>6193668
you'll get slightly different answers from every person you ask but it's basically how you exaggerate a pose to make it look more natural. It just requires practice and use of reference.

[Anonymous No.6193693]

>>6190312
Some practice

[Anonymous No.6193704]

>>6193693
Cute but the hair is not my style. Dare I say "western"

[Anonymous No.6193720]

>>6193704
Yeah the hair kinda tripped me up on this one, it wasn’t coming out right so I stopped fiddling with it after a while and just left it alone.

[Anonymous No.6193742]

>>6193643
I find it really hard to get a reference that matches what I'm trying to draw most of the times
Anyways I tried, I'll try again tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6193750]

>>6191212
Imagine if he spent all that time drawing hands towards making a manga that wasn't retarded and boring

[Anonymous No.6193760]

>>6190441
I like this a lot

[Anonymous No.6193770]

>>6193742
I find it hard to believe you couldn't find a reference for an anime girl head in three quarter view.
mix and match with girl with arms over head and girl doing a lunge.

[Anonymous No.6193816]

>>6192801
i wanted to elaborate on what some anon said about the western looking thing, im sure theres a better image that explain this i dont have it atm, but basically is this, western drawfags tend to draw the eyes flat on the face like the face of a gorilla, so whenever they rotate the face the eyes are too close together but they are almost level as if the eye sockets where flat and the nose bridge too like a gorilla face, the eye height also is higer than regular anime style, the jaw is more boxy along with the chin being more prominent, all this is alright desu maybe not the eyes but is okay but not when you are drawing anime, because the difference is obvious, this is iwhere it comes the meme shovel face, because anime jaws/chin are like that also the eyes/eyesockets are bigger and the face is more like an ayy unironically, you can see on Wada's art that it follows the basics that im talking about.

to summarize to avoid drawing western looking shit, remember the shovel face, eyes are usually below the middle point in the whole head counting the hair, forehead is big, eyesockets are big, small jaw and thats pretty much the basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.6193818]

>>6193816
You don't have to go full ayy to have an anime style head, but...

[Anonymous No.6193820]

Manga Material's stuff is great, I'm in love with these different perspective shots. They're helping me draw better so much.

[Anonymous No.6193825]

>>6193816
westerners dont understand proportions are the most important thing in locking down other styles which is why style guides always have so many measurements, not respecting the big form(skul) that secondary forms(eyebal) lie on is just bad fundamentals(beg)

nice demo

[Anonymous No.6193826]

>>6193816
blog? u draw nice faces

[Anonymous No.6193837]

>>6193818
you don't but is a good metric to avoid western looking faces, theres plenty of styles that don't follow anything i mentioned and still is pretty anime/manga looking, but for your regular ugu waifu is alright.

[Anonymous No.6193838]

>>6193837
mean to post this instead, ugh.........

[Anonymous No.6193847]

https://youtu.be/msPxqE4Llqs

[Anonymous No.6193850]

>>6193770
You know, I didn't think of mixing different references together at all, that's how retarded I am. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6193891]

>>6192405
>>6192476
>>6192505
>>6192599
>>6192604
>>6192667
>>6192673

The amount of retardation is unbearable. He didn't hide anything, you zoomers just have fucked up and forgetable brain that can't even grasp a tiny thing.

[Anonymous No.6193901]

>>6193891
It's not zoomers desu
A lot of people genuinely think that peo artist always hide some true knowledge that will help them draw better and it has been like this forever

[Anonymous No.6193902]

>>6193850
Copying one reference is stealing.
Copying half a dozen references is Art.

[Anonymous No.6193938]

I was fed up with beg drills so I planned to maybe try copying a character from a series I like. 7h later it’s 2am and I have this in front of me. I’m gonna think about what just happened tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6193949]

>>6193891
They want him to literally explain every single mark he makes down to the very last pixel otherwise he is "hiding" knowledge.

[Anonymous No.6194020]

is there any tips to go from pencil and paper to tablet? Which program is better Clip Studio or Photoshop? Also which brushes should i use?
Sorry for all the questions, im still a beg

[Anonymous No.6194031]

>>6193938
What beg drills did you do senpai. Please share

[Anonymous No.6194048]

anons... i think i learn more copying recklessly, trying copying mindfully just takes to much focus and i end up not learning anything

[Anonymous No.6194154]

Yosh
6/1000

[Anonymous No.6194162]

>>6193541
Draw what you copied from memory to prove that you understood what you copied

[Anonymous No.6194212]

Why do I feel so much more comfortable doing line art with dark pencil than G-pen?

[Anonymous No.6194263]

>>6194154
12/1000

[Anonymous No.6194266]

How do I make the face look smaller? Am I fucking up the construction or is there a step I'm missing?

[Anonymous No.6194270]

>>6194266

Make her hair larger and make her eyes lower

[Anonymous No.6194271]

>>6194266
Draw a smaller circle

[Anonymous No.6194275]

>>6194270
Ok, I'll try to keep that in mind

>>6194271
wouldn't that just make her head smaller?

[Anonymous No.6194276]

>>6194266
Anon, if you dont know even the basics, like loverlay layers and check proportions, I think you should be give up and find another hobby.
>>6194270
>>6194271
?????????????
Seriously?
Begs should not give advice

[Anonymous No.6194290]

>>6194276
my takeaway from this is that the eyes should be lower and shorter. Anything else?

[Anonymous No.6194302]

>>6191714
>>6192391
Thanks for the links. I decided to practice with both of them.
- The line exercises was very interesting, but is it normal to do it in 1 hour?
- The head videos from hide channel are very informative. With a normal skull he can make different faces. I'll practice them, but right now i fuck the eyes in this one. I need more practice with the tablet.

[Anonymous No.6194307]

>>6194212
Me too.

[Anonymous No.6194314]

>>6194290
anon...
Redo everything

[Anonymous No.6194319]

>>6194314
ok thanks for the demo. this is my first week digital drawing so I wasn't aware of these tricks, I'll try it next time.

[Anonymous No.6194366]

>>6194319
Do this everytime you copy or study something, until you can get the proportions right.
https://streamable.com/xbp982

[Anonymous No.6194381]

>>6194266
whos the artist u referenced?

[Anonymous No.6194387]

>>6194366
Thanks. Is there a thought process I should be using when correcting mistakes that will help me prevent mistakes in the future? Or do you just develop an intuition for it?

>>6194381
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96190259

[Anonymous No.6194432]

>>6194031
nothing you wouldn't know about:
30 min a day of line exercises
30 min a day of ellipse exercises
1h a day of copying triangles accurately
Anything beyond that I just tried to get a feel for simple forms (which I am still far from) or copy IRL photos by putting lines over them first and copying those. Which is why I'm surprised I managed to make this without laying any lines on top of the image.
Also I should probably learn how to make photos of trad drawings not look like shit

[Anonymous No.6194450]

>>6194366
Thanks for the demo, I was doing this for few days now but I felt somehow bad for doing it so closely and tracing over the drawings, that I did it traditionnaly and on my sketchbook hoping for the best and the results were questionnables. Seeing others practicing like this feels validating in a way.

[Anonymous No.6194468]

Do anime characters have cheekbones?

[Anonymous No.6194504]

Feedbacks before I moving on to inking please. Sorry about the messy sketch

[Anonymous No.6194505]

>>6194504
should be clearer without the construction

[Anonymous No.6194541]

>>6194468
Yes..........

[Anonymous No.6194545]

>>6194541
ok but are they discernable without blush marks?

[Anonymous No.6194553]

>>6194545

[Anonymous No.6194563]

>>6193336
nta
but only do a minor adjustment, to make it somewhat anime looking

[Anonymous No.6194579]

>>6194553
so only at tilted 3/4 views, ok

[Anonymous No.6194583]

>>6194579
Not only tilted this is just an example. Also not sure how visible it is on extreme/unusual poses.

[Anonymous No.6194603]

>>6194579
Just like humans.
You can light the face if you want them to show up.

[Anonymous No.6194611]

>>6194553
those are cheeks man, not cheekbones

[Anonymous No.6194615]

>>6194611
The shape.. is caused.. by the bone..

[Anonymous No.6194620]

>>6194615
OF MY SWORD

[Anonymous No.6194683]

Does anyone draw in the 80's studio pierrot style?

[Anonymous No.6194698]

>>6194615
In some angles yes but its important to note that the apex of that bulge is not the cheekbone or caused by the cheekbone. Its the cheek itself, and the shape isnt caused by the bone, its the cheek fat. Its more apparent in moe style and less obvious in realistic style or drawing men.
Too lazy too redline so old study

[Anonymous No.6194700]

>>6194698
Source on artist?

[Anonymous No.6194705]

>>6194700
freng/frengchiano

[Anonymous No.6194707]

>>6194698
Hmm okay guess I was wrong then

[Anonymous No.6194721]

where would u say I'm at at capturing animes appeal?
>>6191180
Does the lowerbody look off?

[Anonymous No.6194735]

>>6194721
the way you render is really muddy, form looks okay but room for improvement is there

[Anonymous No.6194766]

>>6194698
This was basically what i was getting at with my original question. Looking at moe references it seemed like the bulge was always the cheek itself rather than cheekbone and i wasnt sure if there were exceptions to this.

[Anonymous No.6194775]

>>6194366
Your construction is complete and utter shit.

Stop giving wrong advice beg trash.

[Anonymous No.6194778]

>>6194775
I think you missed the point anon...
>Stop giving wrong advice beg trash.
pyw

[Anonymous No.6194784]

>>6193568
You don't draw to learn , you draw to see how well can you apply for hay you learned.

If you want to learn and improve, STUDY. Dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.6194902]

>>6194263
18/1000

[Anonymous No.6194995]

>>6194902
what is this

[Anonymous No.6195122]

>>6194366
thats cool but can you post some art as a result of these exercises

[Anonymous No.6195162]

>>6194902
24/1000

[Anonymous No.6195175]

What are some good books or videos that teach proper anime/manga lineart and shading?

[Anonymous No.6195196]

I made some changes in her face based on an anon critiques.

>>6194563
Lol

[Anonymous No.6195198]

Anime characters are too limited

[Anonymous No.6195210]

>>6195198
What dp you mean?

[Anonymous No.6195217]

>>6195196
kek
fucking begs i swear sometimes you make me smile

[Anonymous No.6195220]

>>6195198
>said the frogposter

[Anonymous No.6195235]

>>6195217

Aaand that's way I don't like to post outside /beg/ ...

[Anonymous No.6195236]

>>6195196
This is why redlining begs is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.6195249]

>>6195198
And that's GOOD.

[Anonymous No.6195329]

>>6195196
>fatego
>Elizabeth
you LITERALLY HAVE 2 OFFICIAL ART IN ALMOST THE SAME ANGLE...USE REFERENCES YOU LAZY CUNT.

[Anonymous No.6195395]

>scene with a dozen characters at dot-for-eyes size
who the fuck are you supposed to construct figures at this scale?

[Anonymous No.6195397]

>>6195395
you.. dont?

[Anonymous No.6195407]

hachikujiiiiii

[Anonymous No.6195416]

>>6195397
are you just going to hope and ink spill magically puts them there? how can you not?

[Anonymous No.6195418]

>>6195162
30/1000

[Anonymous No.6195424]

>>6195418
i think you're supposed to be making those strokes without lifting your pen

[Anonymous No.6195448]

>>6194276
>tells him to draw a smaller circle
>??? I dont get it, ur a beg
>sees example with a drawn with a smaller circle
>omg ttttyyyy sooo muccch
kek do /asg/ really?

[Anonymous No.6195451]

>>6195416
just draw them you dumb cunt, dont use construction

[Anonymous No.6195455]

>>6195448
retard

[Anonymous No.6195457]

>>6195448
Smaller circle is wrong advise, if anything it should be bigger and the face area smaller

[Anonymous No.6195463]

>>6195418
36/1000

[Anonymous No.6195474]

>>6195463
Can you please post after every single one you do you skipped a few there

[Anonymous No.6195486]

>>6195457
I think the scale of the circle was more or less ok, the issue was that I pulled the jaw too close to the cranium which caused me to raise the eyes to compensate, making the overall face look bigger. I also just need to draw the eyes shorter in general, and maybe start putting down eye lines instead of brow lines.

[Anonymous No.6195489]

>>6195451
tried, they just come out wonky as shit.

[Anonymous No.6195498]

>>6195489
Draw them big copy them small

[Anonymous No.6195500]

>>6195463
42/1000

[Anonymous No.6195527]

>>6195500
48/1000

[Anonymous No.6195576]

>>6195457
I just draw a face and cheat with selection tools until it looks right I don't understand any of these construction methods except for some basic loomis.

[Anonymous No.6195580]

>>6195424
>i think you're supposed to be making those strokes without lifting your pen
you are not

[Anonymous No.6195586]

>>6195580
Isn't the point of these exercises to develop line control by hitting the bounding boxes? He's not gonna get that if he keeps chicken scratching

[Anonymous No.6195589]

>>6195407
Great work

[Anonymous No.6195590]

>>6195586
You should probably just forget the term chicken scratch exists now and save yourself a lot of self sabotage.

[Anonymous No.6195592]

>>6195590
care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.6195633]

>>6195592
Chicken scratching is actually one of the forbidden secrets of the orient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0FbK8CAfI

Anything goes in the rough. It's only the final line that needs to look smooth, and even those get "cheated" into existence half the time because getting all the weights you want in one go is a nigh impossible test of skill.

[Anonymous No.6195645]

>>6195590
I remember my primary school telling me I was drawing wrong because I chicken scratched and couldn't draw a straight line. I was way better than everyone else and the rest of the kids were impressed but that one retard teacher made me quit and it's much harder to git gud now.

[Anonymous No.6195652]

>>6195527
54/1000

[Anonymous No.6195655]

>>6195633
Jesus fuck he just pumps out the sketch in 3 min, takes me like 30 min to do the same, I feel crushed.

[Anonymous No.6195656]

>>6195633
>another permabeg thinks they know what is and isn't chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.6195660]

>>6195655
i dont think you should compare to a pro that's been doing this for decades

[Anonymous No.6195662]

should i bother rendering this?

[Anonymous No.6195666]

>>6195655
Well, he's also drawn more scantily clad animu girls than possibly any other person on the planet.

[Anonymous No.6195669]

>>6195655
Manga artists work 20 hours a day and give themselves health problems that reduce their quality of work later in life, and it only takes about 10 years until they pass the hill of peak.

[Anonymous No.6195670]

>>6195662
Yes

[Anonymous No.6195685]

>>6195656
These posts are how you know the game is being rigged by crabs. It can be the most blatantly hairy mess with every "line" made with 20 short choppy strokes, and somebody will still barge in and claim that it's not real chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.6195686]

Does anyone have the videos that accompany the Krenz perspective course?

[Anonymous No.6195697]

>>6195685
>It can be the most blatantly hairy mess with every "line" made with 20 short choppy strokes
but thats not what he's doing is it

searching for your line is different than being unconfident in your strokes

just don't "pet" your lines

[Anonymous No.6195707]

>>6195633
>>6195685
There's some chicken scratch in that video but for the most part he's not, he's using long strokes to create long lines and short strokes to create short lines, and repeating the same strokes on top to create room for adjustment. What the other anon is doing is decomposing a line that should be 1 or 2 strokes into multiple smaller strokes, which is what I consider chicken scratch.

[Anonymous No.6195726]

this shit every time summer comes around your lines don't matter I can intentionally make the shittiest chicken scratched sketch on the planet and the final lines will be the smoothest thing you've ever seen in your life

[Anonymous No.6195738]

>>6195726
This.

[Anonymous No.6195744]

>>6195726
ok, how do i develop the muscle control to create the smoothest lines I've ever seen in my life?

[Anonymous No.6195746]

>>6195669
kek
mangaka drop like flies all the time
meanwhile glenns keane and vilppu are still drawing superbly well into their fucking 80s

[Anonymous No.6195748]

>>6195652
60!
60/1000
Good Night!
>>6194995
Accuracy
>>6182008

[Anonymous No.6195755]

If you don't chicken scratch then you'll look blatantly westoid
using smooth lines means you've fallen for the constructoid nonsense

[Anonymous No.6195757]

>>6195746
The most determining factor in the mangaka health problems is probably the deadlines. Stress is a silent killer, if they had just pumped out piece after piece just from enjoyment and take breaks whenever they needed to they would probably become 80yo masters as well.

[Anonymous No.6195760]

>>6190612

[Anonymous No.6195762]

>>6195633
You don't differ c.scratching from multi-stage line. Video is scratching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZggSimXc0s (but it's /pro/ level scratching without hairy lines).

[Anonymous No.6195764]

>>6195757
>if they had just pumped out piece after piece just from enjoyment
a lot of them enjoy overworking, it's the Nipponese way but still comes with all the problems forcing yourself to do work does.
Though a lot is forced overwork, good example was the gundam animation director who got hospitalised because of exhaustion and stressed over how shit the animation became from his hospital bed.

[Anonymous No.6195766]

>>6195748
where do u get the references from? is it just random kanji?

[Anonymous No.6195769]

>>6195746
to be fair we don't really know what mangaka do after being mangaka if they're not successful

many of them could go on to being instructors

[Anonymous No.6195780]

>>6195769
The successful ones die early or have a dip in art quality. Look at any mangaka/animator/artist that started more than 30 years ago and their work is worse or they're dead.

[Anonymous No.6195787]

>>6195764
I meant in such a way that they would be able to pace themselves, get exercise and good sleep etc. A lot of them subsist on garbage diets and are sedentary + stressed which is a recipe for early death. If they drew 10 hours a day, slept the full 8 hours and spent 2 hours exercising they still have 4 hours to take care of other daily things or relax but everything I read about them it says they have like 20 hour workdays 7 days a week. Anyone would collapse like that.

[Anonymous No.6195856]

[Anonymous No.6195857]

>>6195744
just like normal muscles, train them

[Anonymous No.6195860]

is this some kind of fetish?

[Anonymous No.6195862]

>>6194432
show me the triangles you copied

[Anonymous No.6195865]

>>6195780
Toriyama and Araki are pretty old. I don't think they really got worse skill wise, just their styles changed.
And there's a lot of old dudes who were in the biz for decades and worked steadily and stayed great
Naoki Urasawa, Yusuke Murata come to mind
Sounds like you only know two artists. Miura and Togashi. Fucking casuals

[Anonymous No.6195867]

>>6195395
>>6195416
at that point its all shapes, you think mangakas drew that with construction? as if they have time for that shit anyway

[Anonymous No.6195893]

>>6195865
>Toriyama
just traces his old artwork now
>Araki
jojo looks way worse than the early volumes, and to be fair it was always just hotoku no ken with weird coloring and goofy costumes.
>Yusuke Murata
he's only 44 anon and didn't start more than 30 years ago.
>all of his examples are shonenshitty
fucking casuals.

[Anonymous No.6195906]

>>6195867
he could have drawn it with witchcraft for all i know. i haven't really figured out how to tackle these kinds of lofi and suggested suggested figures for groups yet.

[Anonymous No.6195942]

>>6194314
How do I avoid reacting like a monkey seeing a card trick when I look at lines like this?

[Anonymous No.6195946]

>>6195860
looks like the the female variation of the korean small head syndrome?

[Anonymous No.6195962]

>>6195893
why'd you ignore Urasawa? I can bring up more Ryoichi Ikegami has been working in manga since the fucking 70s
you also got Shuichi Shigeno, Keisuke Itagaki, and Takao Saito worked till he died at the ripe age of 83
and there's so many more

[Anonymous No.6196006]

>>6195589
thank saw this image and I immediatly thought of hachikuji
accidentally started drawing on the mirrored side because I flipped the canvas too much

[Anonymous No.6196177]

Any tips and grind for trad?

[Anonymous No.6196202]

Mamgaka sharing their trades.
https://youtu.be/099ImeBZlM0

[Anonymous No.6196301]

>>6195942
???

[Anonymous No.6196409]

>>6195769
They draw Vtuber.

[Anonymous No.6196411]

Rate my pre/beg/
how could I have done it better?

[Anonymous No.6196427]

>>6196411
Basics of Loomis

[Anonymous No.6196430]

>>6196411
Your head forms do not match. The head in the reference is way bigger. Remove the hair and compare.

[Anonymous No.6196470]

>>6196411
please do not decapitate anime girls, they've done nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.6196476]

>>6195726
>I can intentionally make the shittiest chicken scratched sketch on the planet and the final lines will be the smoothest thing you've ever seen in your life
Do it! I fuckin' dare you! (Hard mode: with 1px brush).

[Anonymous No.6196512]

>>6196430
Yeah, I should've probably sketched her bald first, or maybe try drawing bald anime girls first.
>>6196470
S-she's ok anon! The stiches are hardly noticeable...

[Anonymous No.6196515]

Is there a guide on how to actually "copy" an anime drawing? Like the process of it?

[Anonymous No.6196517]

>>6196515
>take screenshot
>import it
>draw the shapes you see

[Anonymous No.6196531]

>>6196411
She has a half-brain now.

[Anonymous No.6196535]

>>6190312
how do people actually paint from grayscale to colors? changing the blending mode to color never actually give me the colors I want, and I still have to render the colors on top of rendering light and shadows
it is such a pain compared to working with flat colors from start

[Anonymous No.6196541]

>>6196517
Do people here draw above the reference though?

[Anonymous No.6196543]

>>6196541
why wouldn't you? it'll help see those shapes and how they're playing into each other, then once you get the general idea you can try copying from the side

i don't draw anime stuff but drawing the basic shapes over screenshots i took from perspectives i didn't quite understand did help me begin to understand them

a guide is only there to throw you into a certain direction, how you continue to go into that direction is really up to you

[Anonymous No.6196550]

I really, really want to give my anime girl a nose. A real one. A nice one like the Detective Conan girls. Can it be done?

[Anonymous No.6196552]

>>6196301
Exactly what I said. I'm /prebeg/ or maybe /preprebeg/ and shit like that makes me see stars and always causes me to backslide out of progressing into the /beg/ zone.

[Anonymous No.6196559]

>>6196535
there's shit tons of layer mode available. go wild with it.. i personally dont like the grayscale process because that shit is already what we do at work but if I have to do it for myself on a grayscale that has medium values, what i'd do is make a fill and set it to overlay, then adjust it with hue/saturation/opacity. the color will feel too monotonous at first because you'll have to fill it again with a different color in overlay or whatever layer styles you want until you get your desired effect. you can also use gradient overlay and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.6196562]

>>6196559
>>6196535

Any tips in getting better at using multiply layer? I spent enormous amount of time trying to find a correct color, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.6196582]

>>6196550
You wrote the answer in your own post

[Anonymous No.6196599]

so is this general pro or anti loomis

[Anonymous No.6196603]

>>6190312
Does anyone have a good anime body proportions guide that's not from some retarded tumbler skank.

[Anonymous No.6196606]

>>6196599
Everything other than beg thread is assuming you did and mastered loomis.

[Anonymous No.6196608]

>>6196562
>multiply layer
multiply layer makes your values darker each time you use it. i usually use it to darken the overall values before coloring. but sometimes it's good to use like some sort of undertones. it really is a trial and error. the more you get used to using it, the less layers you will be using. and if you want to achieve something that you know you can do by just directly painting it, just do it on a different layer.

[Anonymous No.6196628]

>>6195748
66/1000

[Anonymous No.6196629]

>>6196430
not that anon but I don't see it? his face is fatter than the ref

[Anonymous No.6196651]

Anyone have any tips or videos to learn how to render like this?

[Anonymous No.6196811]

>>6196651
Try asking Navigavi? The dude always puts up timelapse vids, he might be willing to tell you a thing or two.

[Anonymous No.6197019]

>>6196628
72/1000

[Anonymous No.6197087]

>>6197019
78/1000

[Anonymous No.6197110]

>>6195862
It's just triangles man
You're overthinking this

[Anonymous No.6197120]

>>6197110
Ugh. I am in awe of those triangles. An entire hour.

[Anonymous No.6197133]

>>6197120
It's not the most exciting thing for sure but it works, personally I'll keep doing them for a while, maybe switch to polygons or the funny squiggles anon keeps pushing onto us.
But hey, 30 minutes a day should help you improve too, though obviously a bit slower.

[Anonymous No.6197137]

>>6197133
Sorry, I'm not memeing, it really is impressive to me. How do you avoid burnout after studying for two hours? I'm guessing from your first post you didn't.

[Anonymous No.6197182]

>>6197087
84/1000

[Anonymous No.6197234]

>>6197182
90/1000

[Anonymous No.6197360]

>>6196562
download the krenz color course, he even explain what brush and size you should be use

[Anonymous No.6197463]

>>6197234
Fuck i want to try this and i can't even get the box right. I'm so shit lol

[Anonymous No.6197514]

>>6197234
96/1000

[Anonymous No.6197545]

>>6197514
Demo
https://streamable.com/rv0t6t

[Anonymous No.6197570]

>>6197545
That was helpful, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.6197601]

>>6197514
102/1000

[Anonymous No.6197635]

>>6197601
108/1000

[Anonymous No.6197636]

>>6197545
Watching this was physically frustrating. I can't imagine going through something like this myself.

[Anonymous No.6197640]

>>6191146
> Hajime Ueda inspired
Brother

[Anonymous No.6197641]

>>6197640
nice shapes

[Anonymous No.6197664]

>>6196535
I do it like this, maybe it can help

>>6197641
Thanks, The ink is made by doing the flat line first and adding depth later

[Anonymous No.6197679]

>>6190312
Question what color does should I give a fox girl to match with multiple outfits white or Lavender

[Anonymous No.6197696]

>>6197635
114/1000

[Anonymous No.6197720]

>>6197696
YOSH 10P
120/1000
GOOD NIGHT!

[Anonymous No.6197805]

This is a particularly difficult angle to draw - anyone have any other good references for it?

[Anonymous No.6197846]

>>6197805

Manga Materials fanbox has solid amount of sheets for that angle.

[Anonymous No.6197875]

[Anonymous No.6198004]

>>6197545

Bros will spit on the 250 box challenge, and yet still come up with a grind exercise that involves ghosting lines, sensitivity to angles, and precise correction work.

[Anonymous No.6198074]

>>6196559
>>6197664
thanks I'm experimenting with layer modes now, I think I can use multiply if I want the color darker and color dodge if I want it lighter
this grayscale to colors process just seems so tedious for no reason

[Anonymous No.6198122]

>>6197875
How do I into clothes like this? I read up on the basics and tried a study but I find the wrinkles unintuitive and can't get a grasp on it.

[Anonymous No.6198193]

>>6197545
this angered me even watching, I would destroy something if I actually tried it.
why not practice calligraphy instead?

[Anonymous No.6198197]

>>6197545
Who would win: People who study anime or 5 lines?

[Anonymous No.6198218]

>>6197720
126/1000

[Anonymous No.6198219]

>>6198197
people who study anime made of 5 lines

[Anonymous No.6198226]

>>6198218
How about you bundle these? If you plan on posting a thousand of these you'll just clog up the threads with something that's not anime, sorry to say.

[Anonymous No.6198268]

>>6197545
>>6198218
if i recall correctly this is from krenz's, right?
what's the purpose of the exercise? genuinely curious
i kinda see this as a useful exercise for digital artist but other than that i have no idea

[Anonymous No.6198300]

>>6198268
Like bargue without the 100 hours of rendering and ugly noses.

[Anonymous No.6198303]

>>6198218
132/1000

[Anonymous No.6198306]

>>6198268
nta
but
>>6192075

[Anonymous No.6198309]

>>6198303
Anon is correct, just do calligraphy so you spend hundreds of hours learning an actual skill and improve your line work.

[Anonymous No.6198327]

>>6198309
What is going on in your head that you think what he's doing has anything to do with calligraphy?

[Anonymous No.6198340]

>>6198300
>>6198306
gotcha
that's pretty neat actually sorta like a dexterity and accuracy exercise

[Anonymous No.6198361]

>>6198327
Learning the same skill of smooth lines. Calligraphy is all about writing smooth connected lines.
Why do you think the Japanese are so good at drawing? Because their language is literally lines and symbols
Don't tell me you fell for the "just be asian meme" right? It's actually
>just learn moon runes

[Anonymous No.6198366]

>>6198361
It's practice to measure angles/distances accurately, not mark making.

[Anonymous No.6198367]

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[Anonymous No.6198374]

>>6198366
just draw, what a meme exercise

[Anonymous No.6198379]

>>6198374
it's still drawing, anon

[Anonymous No.6198396]

>>6198379
drawing a squiggle that only improves a very small part of your artistry, instead of improving all of it by just drawing™

[Anonymous No.6198399]

>>6198396
come on now
at least these anons are drawing something even just by following exercises rather than doing nothing

[Anonymous No.6198423]

>>6198399
doing a thousand of those exercises is an easy way to burn yourself out, he will never draw again desu

[Anonymous No.6198434]

>>6198423
that depends on him
sure he may but he can take a rest and do it again, but him not drawing ever again will be his own choice and he will regret it

[Anonymous No.6198479]

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