/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6185768]

Today's Beg Challenge: Draw Brent Eviston.

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

Sticky:

New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q

Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- The Art and Science of Drawing
- Perspective Drawing Handbook
- Figure - Design and invention
- Pen and Ink
- The Natural Way To Draw

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uxMdokX68

REMINDER TO IGNORE POSTS VIOLATING RULE 1
"All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork."
(ex art dumps, posts without text, posters that don't ask questions or seek help)

Previous thread: >>6183467

[Anonymous No.6185776]

Would like feedback

[Anonymous No.6185780]

[Anonymous No.6185792]

>>6185768
Hello Begs, last thread had almost no pics and only shitposts. Dont feed the trolls lmao. Draw

>>6185539
It took me about 40 days of drawing before i got it. Its basically about imagining 3D shapes (forms) before drawing them on the paper. Btw i said i understand the concept, not that i can actually do it or apply to my shit yet
>>6184503
SOUL OVERLOAD

[Anonymous No.6185796]

>>6185792
>gimp logo
discarded

[Anonymous No.6185841]

>>6185792
How long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.6185843]

>>6185768

[Anonymous No.6185859]

>>6185768
What am I doing wrong, bros??

[Anonymous No.6185869]

>>6185768
I’ve never known how to draw, decided to give it a shot today. I don’t know shit about art. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6185883]

>>6185843
What is that yellow energy he is radiating?

[Anonymous No.6185885]

>>6185869
What you need is The Art and Science of Drawing. Watch the course or read the book.

[Anonymous No.6185886]

>>6185859
Loomis really. Also you built the surrounding based off a horizon line grid, but didn't incorporate the girl in with it; or at least, did so very poorly.

I would suggest more anatomy before drawing characters with set pieces.

[Anonymous No.6185889]

>>6185869
hampton fddi

[Anonymous No.6185894]

>>6185886
Okay guess I'll practice some more. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6185895]

>>6185883
divinity

[Anonymous No.6185896]

why can't I finish any of my drawings? I just keep staring at the construction

[Anonymous No.6185903]

>>6185859
Don't fall into the Loomis meme, it'll hold you back at least 6 months. Read Michael Hampton's figure design and invention and remember to practice with simpler figures or bodyparts in perspective before trying a full body, else you'll fail because of a lack of practice.
It will take a while, no matter how simple it seems it takes time to build the technical skill to pull it off even if you understand the concepts

[Anonymous No.6185910]

>>6185903
Is it important to learn how to draw cubes, cylinders and contour lines before trying Hampton?

[Anonymous No.6185926]

>>6185903
>Don't fall into the Loomis meme, it'll hold you back at least 6 months
why?

[Anonymous No.6185928]

How did I do proportions and perspective here?

[Anonymous No.6185934]

>>6185329
Also this is the original. She has big boobs.

[Anonymous No.6185942]

>>6185926
loomis is a great resource IF you already understand the content
terrible if you're starting out

[Anonymous No.6185957]

>>6185942
Why do so many retards on this board recommend Poomis to absolute beginners?

[Anonymous No.6185967]

>>6185942
what if i don't understand the content already, but i'm white and not 90iq like most begs are?

[Anonymous No.6185969]

>>6185967
you'll still fail, because you're even dumber

[Anonymous No.6185983]

>>6185776
>>6185329
also, why is this guy a schitzo

[Anonymous No.6185987]

just finished this. took around 16 hours i spose
open to critique

[Anonymous No.6185988]

>>6185934
>>6185329

take a peek at this boob tutorial, it should do you some good. and here's a big tittied ref in case you'd like to study something

[Anonymous No.6185989]

>>6185988
>>6184561
sorry i mean this tutorial here

[Anonymous No.6185991]

>>6185988
nice flutters, reminds me of 2012 when everyone was obsessed with that horse show

[Anonymous No.6185993]

>>6185987
i like the standin guy i think you could improve the dying guy

[Anonymous No.6185996]

>>6185987
What type of paint?

[Anonymous No.6185997]

>>6185983
>also, why is this guy a schitzo
Because he's been going at it, makes no progress, doesn't accept advice and keeps insisting he's improving.

[Anonymous No.6185998]

>>6185996
digital

[Anonymous No.6185999]

>>6185997
oh i see he's retarded.

well i'll give it my best shot to get him right but i dont expect much hearing that

[Anonymous No.6186001]

>>6185997
Meant to say going at it for a long time*

[Anonymous No.6186002]

>>6185991
yeah hell i think i might reference this myself.

[Anonymous No.6186012]

Got bored, quick doodle stuff from imagination/memory... Only thing that really comes to mind when not specific old animu/manga.
Never really get tired of highlighting imperfections; sorry for the graph paper but didn't want to waste a new clear sheet.

[Anonymous No.6186015]

>>6185983
>>6185997
>>6185999
Except he's actually wrong. Anyone who isn't trolling can see that I've progressed. >>6184882
Also thanks for the tutorial but my ref actually had boobs like that. Vertical boobline.

[Anonymous No.6186016]

>>6186012
reference art when learning its better than doing it from memory. if you do it from memory you're reinforcing bad habits and proportions. atleast have something to compare it to after the fact to see what you broke.

[Anonymous No.6186017]

>>6186015
ref

[Anonymous No.6186020]

>>6186015
Sure you have, schizo, sure you have.

[Anonymous No.6186022]

>>6185983
>>6185999
He literally refuses to learn how to draw 3D shapes w/ perspective, and insists on only drawing his waifu by copying a reference.

[Anonymous No.6186023]

>>6186016
I know what's wrong with it, it's my face, kek.
I was just testing if the self portraits I've been doing inconsistently have built in habits.
Like the one on printer paper is from a quick 15 second glance in the mirror, the others as the image faded from immediate memory, and having to conjure up differences (being creative with age), ideally I should be able to know my own face.
Just shows me I need much more practice, that's my thoughts on the 'exercise' though.

[Anonymous No.6186025]

>>6184542
>>6184571
You actually did it, I think I'll make something in return. Would you rather have her be the dom or the bottom?

[Anonymous No.6186028]

>>6186025
Doesn't she have a dick?

[Anonymous No.6186029]

>>6186028
I don't know, does she? I'm not familiar with her but since you kept drawing her for years she's started to grow on me.

[Anonymous No.6186041]

>>6186029
Oh I thought you meant you're going to draw the pic from >>6186025.
If I remember correctly, she's from Re;Zero and had a penis but not sure.
Sure draw anything you'd like.

[Anonymous No.6186054]

Reposting my question from the last thread because I'm blind and didnt see this one was made.

Lads I do abstract paintings but all my shit seems really basic and simple. Does anyone have advice for making more complex abstract art or should i keep making simple shit?

[Anonymous No.6186061]

>>6186041
>>6186025
Actually, if you haven't started yet. Maybe I would like her to be the bottom, making really lewd faces. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6186095]

>>6186002
first attempt ive made in a while to draw big tits. but i really dont like my eye. i see already what i fucked up but, i'm gonna go practice some face stuff now.

be back with some incase referencing

[Anonymous No.6186099]

>>6186095
rotated for her pleasure

[Anonymous No.6186106]

stuff
>challenge
maybe next time

[Anonymous No.6186128]

>>6185957
because that's what happens when a bunch of autistics engages in gatekeeping

[Anonymous No.6186132]

Works on my machine

[Anonymous No.6186133]

>>6185776
Holy fuck you did improve... on the face. But the shading is still bad. Do a bunch of Bargue plates and we will talk again.

[Anonymous No.6186135]

>>6186015
ok man do whatever you want no lead of my pencil

[Anonymous No.6186140]

>>6186106
Tell me you are that monthy neet schizo. What resource you are doing right now?

[Anonymous No.6186174]

Has anyone seen an impressive improvement before/after pic where the before wasn't from a child?

I've seen some of those art timeline memes that show huge progress but the starting point is always 12 years old and the end is 20, like yeah no shit you'll improve in a period of extreme brain growth and neuroplasticity. I never see amazing before and afters where the starting point was already an adult; are they out there? I need something to give me hope...

[Anonymous No.6186180]

>>6185883
piss gold

[Anonymous No.6186186]

>>6186174
sure let me get my sketch book real quick

[Anonymous No.6186201]

>>6186186
all these drawings are in the same sketch book all drawn in less than about 5 months from eachother, all from this year.

[Anonymous No.6186205]

>>6186174
>>6186201
see pic related

[Anonymous No.6186216]

>>6186205
nta but are they from reference or imagination?

[Anonymous No.6186219]

>>6186216
i reference as much as possible. though i usually dont do straight copying. i reference for proportions, facial structures, etc.

though i break down all the references i use with skeletons as well to help me do my own stuff.

[Anonymous No.6186227]

>>6186174
Sinix started in his 20s and his early art looked like deviantart trash. So there's that of you really want.

[Anonymous No.6186239]

[Anonymous No.6186241]

Last thread ended before I could post my bread.

[Anonymous No.6186242]

>>6186174
MCM was apparently a legend in the CA.org days for his work ethic. I think he was 24-27 when he started. Btw that cylinder is allegedly from like month 6 into his journey.

[Anonymous No.6186245]

>>6186174
It depends on what you consider to be impressive progress. Shoe me something that you would consider impressive in a whatever time frame you choose

[Anonymous No.6186249]

Back to our regularly scheduled pre-beg fun stuff.
I know his right eye and some other stuff is off, but erasing would only make everything worse.

[Anonymous No.6186264]

>>6186241
nice

[Anonymous No.6186275]

>>6186128
I'm tired
Is Loomis a beg trap or not? Why does everyone have to be fucking ass about this topic
I know we're on le 4channel but people could use some fucking decency

[Anonymous No.6186276]

Depends on your IQ

[Anonymous No.6186287]

>>6186276
I'm going to assume this is a trick question
I'm not really far into Fun with a pencil and i dislike that cartoonish artstyle, but throwing eclipses etc on the sphere did in fact help with building those faces as well as general sphere direction
I only worry that i might memorize that style and be stuck with it. Of course, that might sound dumb as fuck but im a pre-beg so i don't know alot

[Anonymous No.6186290]

>>6186275
Loomis is fine. As a rule, never listen to anyone on here who has a hate boner for any given popular book recommendation. They're all fine.

[Anonymous No.6186293]

>>6186287
Well since you can form some sentences, I'll give you my worthless opinion.
Loomis is extremely helpful, West or East most animu and others to a point were influenced by his books because they were easily available.
It should provide you the basics of construction, and as someone just learning you shouldn't be worried about having a style yet until you understand the fundamentals of everything.
You'll memorise what's useful to you.

[Anonymous No.6186299]

>>6186290
>>6186293
Thank you for the info, i'll keep on it

[Anonymous No.6186310]

>>6186275
>Is Loomis a beg trap or not?
Fun with a pencil is a beg trap.

The other books are fine, although you should learn perspective first. The guy himself even says you should learn it elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.6186316]

>>6186239
can these lines be replicated on digital?

[Anonymous No.6186326]

>>6186174
I know this doesnt count as impressive improvement, but heres my before (bottom) and after (top).
Im 31 y/o and I've been drawing for 1 month.

Last time I drew it was on high school, so about 13 years ago.

[Anonymous No.6186330]

>>6186174
I started drawing at 30 years. From absolute zero, never touched a pencil before only been drawing for what 8 months and a half but yea I have gotten better. My progress is not amazing by any means because I have no talent but my characters do look like humans now.

[Anonymous No.6186332]

>>6186330
At 30 years of age obviously

[Anonymous No.6186337]

>>6186174
Do you like drawing? If you do, this bullshit doesn't matter, you'll keep drawing anyway. If you don't, why are you forcing yourself to do something you don't like?

[Anonymous No.6186338]

>>6185987
I love the coloring on that sleeve as well as the clouds. Do you have a particular artist you've studied for that?
That aside I have to agree with the other anon that the dying man could use some improvement (maybe the face is a little too muddy or lost some construction?) Other than that this is looking really good!

[Anonymous No.6186370]

[Anonymous No.6186373]

>>6186370
0 progress

[Anonymous No.6186376]

>>6186370
Have you ever tried reading art books?

[Anonymous No.6186379]

>>6185768

[Anonymous No.6186381]

>>6186376
He refuses to learn perspective and volume.

[Anonymous No.6186384]

>>6186370
Another amazing masterpiece from a master.

[Anonymous No.6186386]

Ignore the schizo

[Anonymous No.6186388]

>>6186373
>no progress
Lmao.
>>6186376
Yes? I have a whole bookshelf full of them.

[Anonymous No.6186389]

>>6185903
Yeah I always had a feeling that that outdated Loomis book was kinda fishy... THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

[Anonymous No.6186390]

>>6186388
You can keep insisting you've made progress, but at the end of the day, everything you're drawing now is just as unappealing as before.

Please try listening to advice anons are giving you.

[Anonymous No.6186391]

What needs to be changed and/or added in the collaborative sticky?

https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q

[Anonymous No.6186395]

>>6186388
>I have a whole bookshelf full of them.
Have you tried reading them

[Anonymous No.6186396]

>>6186390
You might want to get your eyes checked? Or is this more your flavor?
Anyway, pyw.

[Anonymous No.6186398]

>>6186395
Are you implying that >>6186370 is bad? If so pyw.

[Anonymous No.6186401]

Crabs are gonna crab

[Anonymous No.6186406]

>>6185768
oh you

[Anonymous No.6186407]

>>6185987
My two cents. I felt that the dying guys' head was a bit too small, and that due to lighting direction more of his arm and chest should be in shade. I'm not nearly as good as you, though, so take it with a pound of salt.

[Anonymous No.6186428]

>>6186338
Thank you I agree the dying guy is not good and it's because of impatience. I feel like I'm improving technically with other things but I need to learn sometimes it's okay to take another day on a painting and it's not a race.

As far as the colors, no I don't think I studied any one person in particular for that effect, it's probably a collective of influences but if it helps when I was finished with the painting I felt like it resembled NC Wyeth and I've had people say similar comparisons to previous paintings I've said so if anything in my painting interests you I would recommend him, his paintings are plentiful and equally beautiful as they are plentiful.

>>6186407
Thank you for the crit I appreciate the reply

[Anonymous No.6186509]

hulk, you don’t look so good…

[Anonymous No.6186513]

>>6186509
for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVODSCDyLp0

[Anonymous No.6186527]

>>6186513
not anime style

[Anonymous No.6186554]

progress! made the values a lil more darker

[Anonymous No.6186557]

>>6186398
Nta but yes it is.
Which is fine. Just keep drawing and improving, so you can look back at this in the future and realize that it was bad.

[Anonymous No.6186566]

>>6186557
Hmm. I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Show me which drawings from the past 3 /beg/ threads are better than my drawing. Preferably, pick something that has a similar theme and also trad.
>>6183467 >>6179347 >>6175968
If you can't find any examples, show me a "good" trad portrait and I'll surpass it in the next drawing.

[Anonymous No.6186568]

>>6186557
>>6186566
Also pyw.

[Anonymous No.6186571]

>>6186566
Why are you posting here if you think you're king of the /beg/s? Kinda cringe, bro.

[Anonymous No.6186572]

>>6186571
Oh thanks for proving you're just another crab. Can't even post a portrait, simple task really. All you had to do was go to Google Images but nah you gotta be a smartass.

[Anonymous No.6186581]

>>6186572
I literally said keep drawing and improving, how is that being a crab, you dunning kruger ass retard? Even a non artist can look at a portrait and tell if something is off, even if they couldn't fix it themselves.

[Anonymous No.6186591]

>>6186554
Awesome :)

[Anonymous No.6186595]

>>6186581
>still no portrait
Yeah, just saying it's bad is very helpful, crab. Literally all you had to do was post a portrait but no, you had to say I'm cringe for giving you some benefit of doubt. Okay anon. One more chance. Post a better portrait, black/white on white paper. Female front facing.

[Anonymous No.6186604]

>>6186566
>Show me which drawings from the past 3 /beg/ threads are better than my drawing.
Literally every other drawing in this very thread lmao.

[Anonymous No.6186607]

>>6186595
Do I look like Google to you?
I'm saying you're cringe because you think your art is great.
No, me saying it's bad isn't helpful. I wasnt trying to give meaningful critique, since I assume you're actively trying to improve and look at your own pieces critically.

[Anonymous No.6186609]

>>6186604
Cool, show me an example. I want to see what I need to aim for.

[Anonymous No.6186611]

>>6186022
Anon, you’re supposed to use a reference.

[Anonymous No.6186615]

>>6186607
Cool. Why is the background grey though?

[Anonymous No.6186618]

[Anonymous No.6186619]

>>6186618

[Anonymous No.6186621]

>>6186615
Presumably to make the highlights pop more. Why does it matter?

[Anonymous No.6186622]

>>6186607
Also can you both >>6186370 and >>6186607 out of ten to see how far I am from it.

[Anonymous No.6186625]

>>6186621
Because that's cheating, in the sense of me surpassing it in the next drawing. But sure don't worry I'll make a better one by the next drawing I post so you can wait there.

[Anonymous No.6186633]

>>6186625
>having a grey background for your art is cheating
man

[Anonymous No.6186635]

>>6185768
Hope my Brent turned out okay. Still need to add some details

[Anonymous No.6186637]

>>6186633
It is. It's digitally processed giving me who only has a phone camera a disadvantage. You also purposely chose a different angle when I specified "front-facing", but that's okay because now I have a challenge and a goal. Just wait for my next portrait before you call me shit, crabtalker.

[Anonymous No.6186639]

>>6186554
Now you just need to reduce the shittiness by 50%.
>>6186509
Hulk no like retardo tranime nose.
>>6186249
Have you considered not chicken scratching like you’ve got a neurological problem?

[Anonymous No.6186641]

>>6186637
He wasn’t crabbing you. He just said your art sucks. That’s not crabbing. That’s providing valuable feedback. If you can’t handle critique then your NGMI.

[Anonymous No.6186644]

>>6186641
Pyw then we can talk.

[Anonymous No.6186645]

Guys, which one should I get?!?

[Anonymous No.6186650]

>>6186644
My work has nothing to do with you sucking.

[Anonymous No.6186651]

>>6186645
they're both essentially the same shit

[Anonymous No.6186654]

>>6186651
But what's the difference even??

[Anonymous No.6186655]

>>6186650
Generally people that crab are just worse drawers that can't pyw. You're no different. You're likely worse than me and can't draw portraits for shit considering you called >>6186557 "critique", despite the same anon admitting it wasn't critique here >>6186607
So yeah keep seething.

[Anonymous No.6186656]

>>6186654
updated drawings as far as I'm aware but the original version will work just fine you can find pdfs of it online quite easily

[Anonymous No.6186658]

>>6186656
Ok thank you very much!!!

[Anonymous No.6186659]

>>6186655
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.6186668]

>>6186566
>If you can't find any examples, show me a "good" trad portrait and I'll surpass it in the next drawing.
shonen protag can-do attitude, truly inspirational

>>6186637
grey paper exists

[Anonymous No.6186669]

Old realist cheetah. Rate 1-10

[Anonymous No.6186670]

Was he in the right bros?

[Anonymous No.6186678]

>>6186669
HE'S FAT

[Anonymous No.6186718]

>>6186618
Damn!!! A drawing that seems planned through by goblin guy! Keep at it m8!!

[Anonymous No.6186721]

>>6186670
>Only professional artists can give you critiques or advice!
No.
Even if he's a better artist than me I can still point out that a lot of what he says is bullshit and that he's an NFT shill.

[Anonymous No.6186730]

>>6186721
Yeah he's basically advocating for ad-hominem arguments

[Anonymous No.6186731]

>>6186670
To get the best results, seek guidance from people who draw things that are similar to what you want to draw. For example, if you're an aspiring comic book artist and you're trying to get advice from someone who only paints pretty girls in 3/4 view - the required skillset and optimal workflow are mostly incompatible.

>>6186721
True.

[Anonymous No.6186734]

>>6186731
Yeah that makes sense. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.6186805]

Am I doing this contour exercise correctly?

[Anonymous No.6186814]

>>6186805
No

[Anonymous No.6186816]

[Anonymous No.6186819]

Hello people what could i do better here?

[Anonymous No.6186831]

>>6186805
why don't you try doing it on top of a photo first

[Anonymous No.6186833]

Anyone want to be draw friends?

[Anonymous No.6186840]

>>6186833
kys

[Anonymous No.6186842]

>>6186833

Sure. But I have just a few requirements.

1. You must be South American
2. You must have innate talent
3. You must draw the cute and the funny
4. You must have an adorable side to yourself that only I can see
5. You must think about me just as much as I think about you and that means all hours of the day to the point where your head explodes

[Anonymous No.6186845]

>>6186816
Very cute style, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6186846]

Daily reminder to ignore schizos

[Anonymous No.6186847]

>>6186607
Okay how did I do? I think I did pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6186848]

>>6186846
But what if I am the schizo?

[Anonymous No.6186850]

>>6186848
then you must ignore yourself maybe

[Anonymous No.6186851]

>>6186819
part of the head is missing(left side), hands are too small, right side arm is a bit long, and draw the feet.

[Anonymous No.6186853]

>>6186814
>>6186831
Ok

[Anonymous No.6186855]

>>6186819
I don't like both the drink and the snack, makes it a little too busy. I'd suggest getting rid of the drink and just make it so she's pushing her boobs up with her other hand (it looks like a seductive pose so that's what I'm assuming you were going for)

Which if that's what you were going for, you could frame it much closer to her face and focus more on some forward momentum to emphasize that seductiveness.

[Anonymous No.6186860]

>>6186846
Who are the schizos?

[Anonymous No.6186861]

>>6186847
Looks better without coloring, huh

[Anonymous No.6186862]

>>6186847
Yeah looks pretty good :)
>>6186861
>coloring
You mean shading? I don't see any colors

[Anonymous No.6186868]

>>6186862
Thanks, yeah I meant shading with a darker pencil.
For some reason my mother hates it, when she usually likes my drawings. Weird because it's probably my best one so far. Also my first time drawing at that angle, too.

[Anonymous No.6186886]

>>6186847
>>6186861
Ignoring the issues with drawing, I see no attempts at reaching the value range and consistent shading of the portrait you were trying to outdo. Maybe try copying it directly and then compare them side by side.

[Anonymous No.6186900]

>>6186886
Well Proko said darker is better and I can see the appeal of >>6186607 being more 3D and all, but I prefer lighter value range. I think it looks better. I tried shading with a darker pencil but immediately was put off by how dark it was. Eventually I will reach that value range but I don't see how darker is objectively better, yet.
I'm more interested in the drawing issues. Was it the eyes? Looked fine when flipped, although the eyes took me the longest.

[Anonymous No.6186904]

Oh i see that retard thinks his issues are some parricular features and not the lack of understanding of basic fundies like form and lightning

[Anonymous No.6186922]

I beg you ignore the schizo

[Anonymous No.6186927]

>>6186922
Who is the schizo? Haven’t you crabs designated like half the posters as schizos? There was Asukafag, Esdeathfag, Googly Eyes, Goblin, Raccoon Guy … who else?

[Anonymous No.6186932]

>>6186868
>For some reason my mother hates it, when she usually likes my drawings.
do you usually show your mom drawings of girls with cleavage, choker, and tongue sticking out? kek

[Anonymous No.6186934]

>>6186932
He is either schizo or troll
I think it is the latter other think he is schizo

[Anonymous No.6186937]

60 second gesture drawings have just saved my motivation after a month of absolute shit events in life that has crushed it

[Anonymous No.6186936]

>>6186934
Its a whole lot of investment for just a troll. At the very least he has some problem in the head to continue for this long.

[Anonymous No.6186938]

>>6186927
Jimmy. Or at least ppl called him that. That weirdo who thought he invented a new way to paint but all his work was ugly as shit because he refuse to group values? And his room was full of shitty paintings and beer cans. I stopped going here for a while so idk what happened to him or if he just went away

[Anonymous No.6186939]

>>6186937
post 'em

[Anonymous No.6186947]

>>6186868
>For some reason my mother hates it, when she usually likes my drawings
Why do you show your mom your drawings? She probably actually doesn't like that you're not doing your chores or some other bullshit ulterior motive

[Anonymous No.6186954]

This mfs posts gonna give me mental breakdown
Gotta leave this thread and drink something

[Anonymous No.6186956]

>>6186939
will do once i've done a few more, will have to be a disgusting phone poster since i chose to go with paper instead of the tablet

[Anonymous No.6186961]

>>6186956
You could scan it

[Anonymous No.6186979]

Made this today, any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6187003]

I need the most uberbeg friendly book / video / whatever.
I need to be told what to do next, what exercises to do, every time.

I have Keys to drawing and Hampton figure drawing.
KTD barely have exercises (maybe a couple for each concept he explains) and i havent seen a single proposed exercise in Hampton book.

I need my hand held as if I was mentally disabled.
I need a lesson, and then a series of proposed exercises.
I dont care about great detailed explanations, I just want to be told WHAT TO DO.
Dont just tell me 'practice these concepts until you get the hang of it'. NO.
I need SPECIFIC exercises, I need to be told exactly WHAT to do and how many times and what variations (if any) I should make.

I implore you.

[Anonymous No.6187007]

>>6186847
Do you genuinely believe this is the road to improvement?

[Anonymous No.6187015]

>>6186979
I like the composition and the colors of the sand, but simplifying the shadows in to one or max two values and changing the color to pure black or even purplish would make it pop more. Right now the brownish warm shadows aren't that exciting.
I would also just imply the footprints in the middleground, foreground footprints are fine. I know that in the desert atmospheric refraction isn't that strong, but I feel that they are too detailed compared to the general looseness of the dunes.
The dude also doesn't have any light hitting him right now, which is weird considering how strong the light is in picture. Even if he is wearing all black there should definitely be light areas and shadow areas on him.

[Anonymous No.6187018]

>>6187003
hampton's book basically tells you what to do and find one of the methods proposed that fits you the most

[Anonymous No.6187026]

>get called out for chicken scratching for trying to emulate old printed mango style.
pre-beg bros, we'll never recover.

[Anonymous No.6187053]

>>6187003
kind of ironic that you lack the creativity to develop your creativity.

[Anonymous No.6187069]

>>6186900
Mostly the body, but the eyes are a bit misaligned too. I could try redlining it if you're interested.

>>6187003
You definitely want to look into video courses, books usually don't give you homework.

[Anonymous No.6187070]

[Anonymous No.6187081]

>>6187069
do you recommend any specific course?

[Anonymous No.6187105]

>>6187081
nta but there is Brent Eviston Art and Science of Drawing course, he will literally tell you how to hold a pencil and setting up your workspace

[Anonymous No.6187112]

>>6187069
>I could try redlining it if you're interested.
Yes please.

[Anonymous No.6187123]

First time drawing digital / using tablet. Yes I'm a complete beginner supposed to be drawing 100 rounded shapes

[Anonymous No.6187132]

how do i draw like this

[Anonymous No.6187152]

>>6187132
Go to your local alleyway and look for cats that just got laidoff

[Anonymous No.6187155]

>The minor axis has another important perspective-drawing feature. It always points to the Vanishing Point that is perpendicular to the ellipse's surface being sketched. This makes the minor axis like the axle of a wheel.
fug I just spent a bunch of time trying to verify this and it's fake artist math. At least in clip studio I can draw figures with perspective rulers so it's always correct....anyway hand-drawing perspective is all a scam

[Anonymous No.6187159]

>>6186316
Yes, I used digital to draw that.

[Anonymous No.6187172]

an /ic/ discord that some people crave is such a funny concept to me. the only reason /ic/ works is so anyone can fuck off and leave at any given moment so the idea that there can be a community of productive individuals growing in skill is such comedy, i dont know how anyone can take it seriously

[Anonymous No.6187192]

>>6187155
retard

[Anonymous No.6187200]

>>6186669
7 / 10
Honestly, I don't know what could be further improved , good job

[Anonymous No.6187209]

>>6187192
fat smelly antisocial loser

[Anonymous No.6187228]

>>6186635
Looks dope as hell anon.

>>6187132
Second.

[Anonymous No.6187232]

>>6186326
Nice progress anon

[Anonymous No.6187255]

Is the head a little too big? Also any tips for the breasts or feedback in general?

[Anonymous No.6187265]

>>6187026
stop worrying about style and stop drawing anime. You actually need to do some beginners courses. Practice your lines and volumes before whining that you are getting called out for having bad art.

[Anonymous No.6187268]

>>6187255
clean up your lines and the perspective on the arm is wrong

[Anonymous No.6187272]

>>6187268
Is the left arm suppose to be more angled or something?

[Anonymous No.6187277]

>>6187272
The hand orientation is twisted weirdly based on the table and the paper, its not resting on the table like you want it to. The forearms shape is not attached to the wrist very well. You just need to make more definite volumes when constructing so you have some reference on how its supposed to foreshorten. It doesn't give off any sense of 3d from the shoulder up

[Anonymous No.6187278]

>>6187277
btw this can be much more clearly seen when you look at the thumbnail of your image

[Anonymous No.6187289]

>>6187003
literally Brent Eviston's course, the guy in the OP. You do a video every day, and he gives you homework, and you keep doing this until you've finished all of his weekly courses. Then keep doing the homework on your own when you are finished, and try applying your homework to your actual art.

>>6185987
This is sick but if im going to be a critical bitch like this thread requires you needed to add just a bit more definition to the left guy's pants/folds, the form is too ambiguous to give off any sense of illusion.

>>6185928
Firstly don't worry about having amazing perspective at your level right now. Proportion is learned through figure drawing classes. What you need to work on is the very starting basics. Practice your lines every day, you lack a ton of line confidence. Props for not chicken scratching

>>6185859
You are overthinking it, literally. Props for charting out all this mathematical perspective stuff in the background, but at your level you need to practice less of that and practice more freeform volumes and construction. Your drawing is extremely stiff and you lack understanding on how volumes are *attached* to each other. Your bewbs also show just how little you understand how basic forms fit in 3d space despite having so much background perspective shit going on. You just need to practice complex forms. Peter Han dynamic sketching or Hampton or whatever will probably help.

[Anonymous No.6187290]

[Anonymous No.6187297]

>>6186611
Simply copying references all the time won't improve you, permabeg.

[Anonymous No.6187298]

>>6186635
The colors are really well done. What medium did you use?

[Anonymous No.6187299]

>>6186581
You are arguing with someone with schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.6187304]

>>6187265
I know it's bad though? Whining though, kek.
As for the anime thing, I don't have interest in anything else nor am I drawing for anything else but fun.
I don't expect to make rapid progress because I don't have interest in that nor the time.
It's just a daily grab something and look at it, this is a /beg/ thread isn't it?

In the end you didn't recommend a beginner course either so..... that's funny to me.
I'm all for curriculum if you're offering.

[Anonymous No.6187306]

>>6185768
i have to learn how to draw..

[Anonymous No.6187317]

>>6187304
>As for the anime thing, I don't have interest in anything else nor am I drawing for anything else but fun.
he says stop drawing anime for a good reason: you don't know the basics yet, and anime defies much of those basics, so you're basically stuck doing the same thing over and not learning from it

once you learn the basics you'll be better at manipulating those forms and then drawing your tranime

[Anonymous No.6187319]

>>6187003

draw a box
bargue

[Anonymous No.6187323]

Im trying to learn perspective but honestly I dont know what the fuck Im doing

[Anonymous No.6187325]

>>6187323
draw perspective lines to guide you

[Anonymous No.6187326]

>>6186639
you gonna tell me what about it is shitty or you gonna make vague comments that doesn’t help anyone?

[Anonymous No.6187328]

>>6187317
I already draw from life though I just don't post that nor perspective exercises.
Kek, again define basics as if you expect me to not know them since I obviously don't have them... how can I know what to study what I lack if I'm already in a realm of ignorance?
I've gone through the 3 basic books in the main /ic/ sticky.

[Anonymous No.6187329]

>>6187325
im trying to draw shapes in perspective but not really following any vanishing point, is that wrong? is it retarded? im fucking dumb?
I dont know

[Anonymous No.6187340]

>>6187328
well it's evident you don't know much about anatomy, so pursue some anatomy studies
>>6187329
if you don't know much about drawing in perspective then there's a good chance you're just making things harder for yourself by not having that visual guide

[Anonymous No.6187342]

How do you guys deal with failure? I know im beg and im going to make tons of mistakes and itll take long to get to a medicore level, but i naturally dont take well to failures and keep thinking about them days on end
Do you distract yourself with something else entirely? Or do you jump straight into another practice/drawing?

[Anonymous No.6187344]

>>6187340
Eh, Anatomy is pretty specialised when one doesn't have a grasp of true basics.
Help me with true basics more with specific texts or something.

[Anonymous No.6187347]

>>6187342
Just learn to accept that everything you do sucks and don't get too tied down to anything in particular.
Once you draw enough any given drawing isn't that important, some days it'll be worse than others, somedays you'll surprise yourself. But there'll always be another one tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6187349]

>>6187340
But which visual guide are you talking about?
I feel like getting guide lines for different vanishing points would just hinder me considering not every shape has the same orientation?

[Anonymous No.6187370]

>>6187289
>freeform volumes and construction
I don't know what this means. Do you mean just drawing without a ruler or something?

>You just need to practice complex forms. Peter Han dynamic sketching or Hampton or whatever will probably help.
Gotcha, thank you so much!!!

[Anonymous No.6187394]

>>6187290
BRAAAAPPPP

Nice one, Anon-kun :)

[Anonymous No.6187406]

>>6187370
Like this

Drawing forms, using the very basic rules of perspective, but in free space. Practice all of these shapes and then start learning draw more dynamic forms. Learn how to graft forms together to form more complex and abstract shapes.

[Anonymous No.6187414]

>>6187406
where is this picture from

[Anonymous No.6187415]

>>6187323
>>6187344
First, watch Vandruff's 1994 lectures on Perspective.
Then read Joseph D'Amelio's Perspective Drawing Handbook
Then watch Gary Meyer's Fundamentals of Perspective course
Then read Creative Perspective by Ernest Watson
Then read How to Draw by Scott Robertson and watch some of his video tutorials too.

[Anonymous No.6187416]

>>6187414
https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf

[Anonymous No.6187418]

>>6187415
>watch all these videos and do not draw until you finish all of them
yeah you arent going to retain shit, idiot

[Anonymous No.6187421]

>>6187415
I dont have time for all that, honestly.
Im a 30 yo boomer and I cant spend 8 hours a day drawing or researching drawing

[Anonymous No.6187422]

>>6187418
Are you a complete and utter idiot? Every single one of these books and courses imposes challenges for the learner.

[Anonymous No.6187425]

>>6187415
I'll check them out since you bothered, still going to post whatever I doodle in the meantime because there's only so much time for anything.

[Anonymous No.6187427]

>>6187421
ngmi

you think you can just easily learn all this stuff overnight? drawing takes YEARS to get good at. you already have bad attitude.

[Anonymous No.6187430]

>>6187414
someone whos taking very expensive Watts Atelier classes gave me a scan of this. I think it's from the school. But I don't know for certain. This is the forms practice that they start you on, this isn't exclusive information. Every high level arts school is going to start all beginners on this type of training.

Don't just draw boxes, all the forms, merge them, morph them, sculpt them, fuck around and experiment with forms after you have practiced tons of boxes and spheres and cylinders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyzlqbeZ0Ec

Watch this video and copy this

[Anonymous No.6187432]

Sketches

[Anonymous No.6187434]

>>6187422
you dont learn to draw by fucking reading you fucking stupid cunt
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.6187435]

>>6187434
>read how to do something
>you know have a general idea of how to do something
imagine that, cool, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6187438]

>>6187406
Ahh okay, so basically drawing without everything being COMPLETELY restricted by the perspective lines and its vanishing points. Gotcha, I will read Hampton's book then and practice DYNAMICO FORMUSU. Thanks!!

>>6187416
Yeah, I recently downloaded that as well, now just need to buy Peter Han's "Dynamic Bible" :) since there is no free pdf of it anywhere to be found.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN!!

[Anonymous No.6187439]

>>6187435
FUCK OFF YOU NONARTIST LARPING FUCKING FAGGOT FUCKING DIE

[Anonymous No.6187440]

>>6187439
cope

[Anonymous No.6187441]

>>6187435
HEY STUPID FUCKING GENIUS, LETS REFORM COMMON CORE EDUCATION AND JUST HAVE THE STUDENTS READ THE ENTIRE TEXTBOOK AND NOT DO ANY WORK
JUST READ AND WATCH VIDEOS
FUCKING MORON DIE

[Anonymous No.6187442]

>>6187432
Did 37 A4 pages of this for past 20 days and 7 anime girls on which i spend ~4 hours
How many pages have YOU done anon

[Anonymous No.6187443]

>>6187441
>>6187439
>this is your mind on tranime

[Anonymous No.6187444]

>>6187440
ILL RIP OFF THE SKIN FROM YOUR FACE AND POUR SODIUM THROUGH YOUR EXPOSED FACIAL MUSCLES AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6187445]

>>6187434
you will 100% never make it, lol.

[Anonymous No.6187447]

>>6187443
Nah, it's something else

[Anonymous No.6187448]

>>6187347
Thank you Anon, that was actually pretty eye opening.
I know that you should give it your all during drawing so my brain unconsciously made me think it has to be perfect even though im obviously nowhere near the level where i can even think like that

[Anonymous No.6187450]

Why does this thread attract mentally ill schizos like this?

>>6187439
>>6187441

I'm assuming this is the guy who keeps drawing Esdeath.

[Anonymous No.6187451]

>>6187415
I hate videos, give more books since I can read and retain information 4x as fast if necessary, of course in book exercises are a given.

[Anonymous No.6187456]

>>6187448
Yeah, I'm not saying don't put in the work. Just understand its all practice and doesn't need to end up looking good because you're getting used to the process.
Especially when you get to rendering and stuff, there'll be a huge chunk of time where your rendering looks like garbage, but you're just practicing the techniques like blending and lighting and it just takes time to fully understand that.

[Anonymous No.6187459]

>>6187228
Thanks :)
You've got potential with the style, just work on the saland fingers
>>6187298
A micron, coloured brushpens, alcohol markers, and a white pen

[Anonymous No.6187460]

>>6187451
If you read Practical Perspective by Philip Lawson, Creative Perspective by Ernest Watson, Framed Perspective 1 & 2 by Marcos Mateu-Mestre and How to Draw by Scott Robertson, you will make it.

[Anonymous No.6187462]

>>6187451
>since I can read and retain information 4x as fast if necessary
take your time, when a book or video teaches you something, practice it alongside; a lot of books won't tell you to do exercises because it already assumes that you're going to fuck off and draw those things after they've been explained

[Anonymous No.6187464]

>>6187462
That's the point though? I know how to read books, it's the only thing I can say that I'm 'good' at.

[Anonymous No.6187468]

>>6187464
of course that's the point, just don't rush through chapters and not do anything; read and look at what they show you, then try it yourself

most of the retards here will read books and then not bother practicing anything it actually told them, so they finish it and go "well i didn't learn shit"

[Anonymous No.6187470]

>>6187342
Look to L O O M I S

[Anonymous No.6187491]

>>6187438

Well, you can still be aware of vanishing points. But you need to build a natural sense of "spatial awareness" without focusing so hard and overthinking everything. The idea is to train your brain to think of your paper like a window into a 3d world in a very natural and instinctive sense. You can only really practice this by drawing lots of forms and then practicing on how to attach those forms together realistically and make them give the illusion of depth.

What you are doing by charting out all those vanishing points and perspective lines despite not knowing how to draw a model is merging two fundamentals together that you haven't practiced enough individually. You have to build instincts, you have build a dynamic sense of form in your brain and how you draw. Then once you have this you can get better drawing figures, and then applying those figures to a correct perspective.

Like Nsio says here "PERCEPTION AND INSIGHT"

[Anonymous No.6187503]

>>6187451
the first few chapters of how to draw has about everything you need to know
but it also has some false info that's just rule of thumb for handdrawing >>6187155

btw, pros use lots of underlays, grids, 3D software etc. to do elaborate perspective drawings

[Anonymous No.6187507]

>>6187304
Sorry the way you phrased it just made me think you were one of those deluded /beg/'s who make excuses when getting real crit.

>As for the anime thing, I don't have interest in anything else nor am I drawing for anything else but fun.

Thats fine that your goals are to draw anime, but you are too new to understand that learning the fundamentals transcends all styles of art. Learning basic line, shape, volume, figure, and value from traditional sources is the base requirement for any illustration. Anime or oil painting. Which is why im telling you to never mention "style" to yourself ever again until you have improved in all those things, you will never achieve the style you want without going through the fundamental learning that every good artist has ever had to go through. You can draw what you want to draw in your free time, but your art obviously shows your complete lack of experience in even learning the fundamentals.

I can tell you are doing drawabox from those pics. Don't start there. Look for Brent Eviston and Michael Hampton. I would also recommend reading through Bert Dodson or Betty Edwards just to improve your basic copying skills which will really help you with your art confidence as a beginner.

The other reason why we all tell you to stop drawing anime is because anime as a style is extremely misleading to beginners. You are going to pick up extremely bad habits copying anime without real fundamental knowledge backing it up.

You aren't going to understand when Japanese artists heavily modify reality to get what they want and WHY they do it. It's going to make all of your art when you draw your own original artwork look completely flat and trash because of all of your false presumptions that anime as taught you. You will pick up fucking awful habits that limit your abilities in the long run.

[Anonymous No.6187509]

>>6187442
the number of pages isn't the objective
quit promoting autism

[Anonymous No.6187513]

>>6185768
What’s the most underdeveloped fundamental in this drawing. Did at work, thanks for the input.

[Anonymous No.6187514]

>>6187513
Sorry the orientation.

[Anonymous No.6187521]

>>6187513
This is not the right question to ask, because at your level any experienced artist will say "All of them"

You need to be stating a goal, then asking how you can reach that desired effect.

Firstly, your lines are not chicken scratchy but they are just too sketchy without purpose. You are obscuring too many of your flaws by over shading and over correcting all of your lines.

Secondly, your figure is warped. You need to work on constructing the figure with basic shapes first and making sure the orientation of pose makes sense.

Overall you will improve a lot by just working on gesture, construction, and then anatomy for the smaller details like the eyes looking bad and skull not looking correct.

[Anonymous No.6187526]

Whats up with the /ic/ fixation with this dude

[Anonymous No.6187535]

>>6187507
>style thing
I know that, it's just that the reference I used literally had bad scan lines like that IRL.
>exaggeration like anime has basis in reality first most, the basics of form and space, etc, the fundies.
I know that too, I just haven't been able to truly grasp it yet as I've been learning. But the small progress I have made keeps me going.
>read keys to drawing already, obviously once isn't enough.
your point on anime is true, but I wouldn't draw otherwise, but now that I have some new curriculum I'll just be drawing that for the near future instead to hopefully ingrain more fundies before touching something so exaggerated now. I do lack extreme experience on fundamentals as I have neglected them recently.

As for OC, I have absolutely no desire for anything but to copy images I like, in both reality and from reference. At most I do the occasional portrait of family, which to be honest as you've said has those flaws you described at the moment and I've only been ignoring them; no true form.

So I will check out the second guy you mentioned in addition to the books I just looked up.
I'd prefer more vintage recommendations, so I'll have to do independent research on that when I have time.

Thanks for some spoonfeeding from you and others though.

[Anonymous No.6187536]

>>6187526
I think this OP coincidence and the other two is one guy spamming

[Anonymous No.6187543]

>>6187535
>I know that, it's just that the reference I used literally had bad scan lines like that IRL.
Well don't try to copy that in your art then because it looks like shit, scanlines are an artificial byproduct of a technology not something an artist literally reproduces.

>I have absolutely no desire for anything but to copy images I like, in both reality and from reference

Then why are you doing draw a box in the pics you posted? Copying anime is seriously easy as shit, I promise you if you just copied anime every day for a year without even reading any books or tutorials you will have become a decent photocopier. Being able to accurately copy things is important, but it's one of the easiest skills to learn on your own in drawing, it's basically just teaching your brain to solve a puzzle.

> which to be honest as you've said has those flaws you described at the moment and I've only been ignoring them; no true form.

But you don't need to learn form to copy anime or portraits. You need to learn proportion, measuring, line, and value. Over a long time you will accrue greater and greater observational skills and be able to copy things as realistically as you want without ever learning about form or perspective.

You learn form and perspective so that you can draw your own scenes and your own ideas. Which is what basically everyone on /ic/ is here for, to be able to make their own animus and their own hentai and shit. What are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.6187562]

>>6187509
You can use whatever metric is more representative to you anon i just wonder how much did you draw this month

[Anonymous No.6187566]

>>6187513
did you paint in the thumb

[Anonymous No.6187567]

Hey you!! Yeah you! Say something nice about my female blackmage

[Anonymous No.6187571]

>>6187543
Well since you asked.
I wanted to look at another 4chan sticky after completing a different one.
I'm the male equivalent of a wine aunt without the alcoholism because of early retirement. Free time split amongst hobbies and I never touched art so I figured I'd start now.
I just like the learning process so I figured I'd go all in even if my only audience is easily impressed kids and a spouse who wanted me to be a bit more expressive, even if it's just copying an occasional thing I like.
I'll do rare requests for them but that's pretty much why I'm bothering with learning the methods, besides the fun of trying to wrap my head around something outside my comfort zone.

Ignoring the blog, I'm here because I've been on 4chan since it was made and just got curious about other boards with all my free time, yet paradoxically there isn't enough time to do everything I want to do.
Don't think that was a good explanation, but... Yeah?

[Anonymous No.6187572]

for learning to draw on tablet should I use hard round or soft round?
what variables should I change with pressure

[Anonymous No.6187573]

>>6187567
I wanna fuck her and coom onto her hat

[Anonymous No.6187574]

>>6187572
imo hard round. its harder to fudge your lines and forces you to git gud. you'll have to git gud eventually so might as well start with it.

for pressure, my i usually just do size. opacity with brushes size with pens.

[Anonymous No.6187575]

>>6187526
he's actually good for beg not loomis meme

[Anonymous No.6187602]

>>6187491
Alright thanks, looks like a still have a long way to go. More practicing until it all becomes second nature, huh? I'll fail as many times as I have to. Alright. LET'S FUCKING DO THIS!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6187605]

>>6187491
By the way, where is that picture from?

[Anonymous No.6187606]

>>6187567
I want to hug her and protect her

[Anonymous No.6187608]

>>6187571
This is really the last place on 4chan you are going to want to be on. Nobody here is going to be easy on you because the people in here come here to not get bullshitted and to really improve at a skill that is truly fucking difficult to be good in. Typically everybody here is young, poor, and ambitious. It seems like you are complacent, wealthy, and a little too arrogant to improve in a meaningful way.

btw the sticky is extremely outdated and pretty shitty. And drawing isn't something you magically get good at because you have a ton of free time and you read a sticky and some books. You have to think of it like lifting, it takes years of dedication and hard work to build enough muscle to make a big difference in your physique. You can't just read the /fit/ sticky and become buff. You have to think about your goals over have true drive and passion over the course of years or you will just get bored/depressed and give up.

[Anonymous No.6187612]

>>6187608
I know that? since we're drawing this out now I'm in reasonable shape so I'm sure I have the discipline to do anything I set my mind to ignoring other things I've accomplished.
You seem a bit touchy, no offence. My projected outcome of reaching a level of competence I'm satisfied with is no less than 7 years given my time constraints.
I'm not a quitter, if I was I'd be poor.

[Anonymous No.6187616]

>>6187612
Forgot to end this with, "we're all going to make it."
as that's a different metric for everyone.

[Anonymous No.6187617]

Today’s study

[Anonymous No.6187620]

>>6187612
No, the touchy one is you. Because you show up in a crit thread and start every fucking sentence with "Umm, I already know that?" It's painfully obvious how insecure you are. You need to drop the ego, and stop making all these presumptions about something and then following with a cope when corrected.

Reorient your goals if you want some proper advice and direction in this thread. Drop the "I just want to copy anime lol" bullshit and maybe approach this board from the mindset of actually wanting to be a real illustrator. Again with a /fit/ analogy, you are the equivalent of a guy who just wants to jog and lose weight in a thread full of hopeful body builders.

[Anonymous No.6187624]

>>6185768
10 min paint / sketches for fun, night night now.

[Anonymous No.6187670]

>>6187571
btw the OP has a new shitty sticky
this one has more info and download links
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#

[Anonymous No.6187672]

Guys, would you sign a bad drawing with your signature before posting it on your socials?

[Anonymous No.6187675]

>>6187672
Like, when the quality is a little worse than usual

[Anonymous No.6187678]

>>6187672
Naturally I sign everything so people can see my progress.

[Anonymous No.6187680]

>>6187620
>nooooo stop being well adjusted and setting realistic goals
lol /fit/ is a great example of everyone larping as a pro and calling actual pro models chicken legs. as crab as it gets

[Anonymous No.6187681]

Sorry if I offended the other guy but I wasted enough posts on not drawing stuff.
I know my limits and goals, as long as I see the smiles of those closest to me and doodle with them I'm happy enough, no matter how long it takes me at the pace I'm at.
>>6187670
Thanks, I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.6187697]

Who use this course (Famous Artist Cartoon Course)? Why perspective after figure and anatomy?

[Anonymous No.6187699]

>>6187697
Just watch perspective first

[Anonymous No.6187702]

It's been 6 months since I did a portrait of someone. Critique me to shit please.

[Anonymous No.6187729]

[Anonymous No.6187743]

Kill me beg. kill me

>>6187702
Next time you are drawing hair make the brush really thin for better illusion of the hair texture. Same for eyebrows and eyelashes. Still its really good overall
>>6187672
Yes even if it kills me
>>6187572
You need to experiment a lot and see what produces which results. For example if you look at my shit when you use brush with fuzzy edges everything looks like blurry shit. As to what to do with dynamics using pressure thats all up to you. Some tasks require dynamic opacity, others require thickness of line and so on.
>>6187567
Soul, nice colors, crosshatching and shading on clothes folds. Good. Minus points for hiding hands and not holding any sort of weapon like mages do. Are you scared of drawing hands anon?
>>6187123
Anon you dont have to grind basic shapes. You can get gud by drawing anything you want. If you like dynos just draw dynos. It will work as well
>>6186979
Its very nice but i would make sky in different color so you could show very far horizon
>>6186833
Draw "friends" are awaiting you in BEG discord server anon
>>6186275
In both stickies the fun with pencil was recommended as SECOND book, never as FIRST book. I bet its because the beginner books are about drawing what you see VS loomis is about construction
>>6186054
PYW
>>6185841
Check out the very bottom right corner. The number 70 is ~how many days i drew.

[Anonymous No.6187757]

drawing clothing is hard

[Anonymous No.6187767]

>>6187729
this is the shit I like to see. Good work anon, keep going.

[Anonymous No.6187772]

>>6187767
Thanks, I appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.6187814]

>>6187699
Hopefully I read Norling and Robertson before any other courses.

[Anonymous No.6187921]

Tried to do lineart / color / shading. It looks so fucking bad but I like it

[Anonymous No.6187946]

new

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[Anonymous No.6188224]

>>6185903
Do you have the book for that? Libgen's version is basically corrupted and can't be opened

[Anonymous No.6188348]

>>6187743
>Yes even if it kills me
>>6187678
Alright thank you :) Then I'll do it too

[Anonymous No.6188442]

>>6186842
All I can promise is that I suck.

[Anonymous No.6188454]

>>6186842
I think he's looking for a friend, not a love interest

[Anonymous No.6188456]

>>6187743
>BEG discord
What's the link?

[Anonymous No.6188645]

>>6187743
Yes, I am very scared of drawing hands and I don't care who knows but for people who don't draw it's a stylistic choice

[Anonymous No.6188845]

>>6188456
https://discord.gg/6Nzdzgct

>>6188645
draw hands lmao

[Anonymous No.6188894]

>>6188845
>https://discord.gg/6Nzdzgct
Thank you!!

[Anonymous No.6189393]

>>6188845
I will never understand the point of a discord for such a small community like this. You're literally just killing the general.

[Anonymous No.6190475]

>>6189393
Yeah, plus it's just a bunch of losers making excuses not to draw and talking about off-topic trivial shit, very bad environment to improve one's art, IMO