/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6183026]

>mfw when a digital artist says he's painting or that he "paints" in watercolor on a computer

[Anonymous No.6183076]

>>6183026
>mfw when a trad artists blames his medium for the lack of polish

[Anonymous No.6183078]

>>6183076
>yfw digital is for brainlets

[Anonymous No.6183079]

>>6183078
Git gud scrub. Seeing brush strokes isn't a style it's a lack of skill.

[Anonymous No.6183082]

>mfw I mastered both

[Anonymous No.6183085]

>>6183026
Digital art is not art prove me wrong
Protip you can't

[Anonymous No.6183089]

>>6183026
It's a LARP. I imagine if they actually tried to paint they'd be crap at it. I do both personally, and calling digital drawing as painting is retarded

[Anonymous No.6183090]

>>6183079
t. beg

[Anonymous No.6183091]

>>6183079
Press Ctrl+Z again moron you fucked up again you dimwit

[Anonymous No.6183092]

>>6183091
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST PRODUCE CLEAN LOOKING ART!
>IT HAS TO BE MESSY AND UNREADABLE LIKE THE OLD /BEG/S!

[Anonymous No.6183099]

>>6183092
>proper art can't look clean
are you retarded

[Anonymous No.6183112]

>>6183076
DANGEROUSLY based

[Anonymous No.6183123]

>call eyedropping colors from a photo I downloaded on Pinterest "mixing paints"
>Call openly tracing it "studying from life"
>Call setting half the layers to multiply and half to color dodge "advanced color theory"
>Call 3D models "anatomically correct reference"
>Call hiding the hands behind the catgirl's back "ingenious gesture"
>Call moving the layers around until it looks cool "composition tricks I've learned from the great Japanese masters"
>Call upvores from Reddit sycophants "making it"

[Anonymous No.6183128]

>its another episode of digiGODS living rent free in a tradfag head

[Anonymous No.6183142]

>>6183123
gigabased pragmatist

[Anonymous No.6183149]

>>6183128
It's the only way to cope for them. They waste thousands of dollars on useless expensive shit when digital bros can do whatever the fuck they want without giving the Jews money.

[Anonymous No.6183209]

>when digital technicians cry and lose motivation when their 4 hours of lost gets lost
>artists lose months of work from paint cracking and they remain stoic

[Anonymous No.6183223]

>>6183123
I kneel

[Anonymous No.6183232]

>>6183209
>4 hours of lost gets lost

[Anonymous No.6183275]

>>6183232
4 hours of work*
Must be the lead and cadmium making me do typos
You might not relate

[Anonymous No.6183288]

>>6183275
All that toxic chemicals just for oranges and white? That's just one color pick in digital :)

[Anonymous No.6183290]

>>6183026
>person says this
>everyone is wowed by his work
>"uhm ahckshuelly that isn't real painting"
>everyone humours you and just nods as you do your little rant
>and then goes back to talking to the digital painter
>you're never invited to hang out again
>the only time you're ever mentioned again is when everyone is drunk/stoned and say "hey do you remember anon what an annoying loser"

[Anonymous No.6183481]

>>6183026
>I've never heard of corel painter

[Anonymous No.6183489]

>>6183149
>without giving the Jews money.

[Anonymous No.6183629]

>>6183481
>>6183026
or rebelle

I generally agree with this statement though for most people who use photoshop and fake it though.

[Anonymous No.6184917]

>>6183489
lmao imagine thinking you need something like that to make amazing digital art. many pros use old as hell used wacoms they picked up off ebay.

craig mullins started out digital painting using a mouse

[Anonymous No.6184922]

>>6183290
>projecting starvation for social acceptance

[Anonymous No.6184924]

>>6183489
>Buy a second hand Intous 3 large for 70$ on ebay
>The same one Feng Zhu uses to this day sill
Wow..

[Anonymous No.6184969]

>>6183026
It's digital paint so it's painting but digitally. Stop drinking lead paint.

[Anonymous No.6185979]

>>6183489
>cherrypicks a top-end professional level graphics tablet

ok anon, you could get that tablet or 7 top end oil paint tubes for the same price but remember you still need top end canvas and brushes
running total: $5281.18
oh and don't forget, paint, brushes, and canvas are consumables so they are a lifetime upkeep cost not to mention I left out easel, paint thinners, linseed oil, palette knives, but yeah, why would anyone go digital amiright?

[Anonymous No.6186073]

>>6185979
Selection makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.6186094]

>>6183026
We're not the ones who started calling art software "Paint" on computers going back to the 80s.

[Anonymous No.6186158]

>>6185979
christ on a bike I didn't realize trad supplies could be that expensive

[Anonymous No.6186169]

>>6186073
anon, I'm not gonna tailor make a paint selection that makes sense for a shitpost. this is just a screenshot of an oil paint list on dickblick sorted by price

[Anonymous No.6186467]

>>6185979
That's the right answer, he used mobile studio as an example, who the fuck buys that ahaha.

[Anonymous No.6186492]

>>6185979
Trad is a toy for rich children

[Anonymous No.6186603]

>>6186467
>>6186169
You think they will design the tech, set up a factory line, if they did not know people will buy them? It's even listed as a best seller.
More people buy that than people who buy tubes of genuine ultramarine, naples yellow (two shades), genuine madder, and genuine vermilion that are more than 7x the normal tube size.

[Anonymous No.6186679]

>>6186603
even if more people are buying the highest priced tablets you still can make VASTLY more art for less cost with the digital medium. shit you could buy a premium tablet AND a premium PC setup and still have a better bang for your buck than if you were to do the same with premium trad supplies. trad is fun and all but you're naïve if you don't realize that digital surpasses it in every way that matters

[Anonymous No.6186692]

>>6186679
Don't bother. The only people who paint as a hobby and not seriously are rich fucks who are divorced from reality, or wannabe like the poor fucks who play golf, both kind need a sense of superiority to function in daily life.

[Anonymous No.6186715]

Anons.... both are really fun mediums maybe you should all take your heads out of your asses.

[Anonymous No.6186745]

>>6184969
And virtual sex is having sex (virtually)
Fishing in a video game is fishing (in a video game)

[Anonymous No.6186970]

>>6183026
"watercolor" is just the effect watercolor irl does, if it can be mimicked it still counts

[Anonymous No.6186988]

>>6186970
this is pedo level mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.6186991]

>>6186988
>this is pedo level mental gymnastics
??? What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.6186992]

zalupa

[Anonymous No.6186997]

>>6186988
holy fucking based

[Anonymous No.6187693]

>>6186603
You're a moron if you believe that's their best seller lmfao. It's overpriced junk that people know to avoid and grab a cintiq with an actual pc instead. And if you understand so little of the tools, I can only imagine how small your knowledge of art is.

[Anonymous No.6187734]

>>6186988
You autistic fuck,
That's like saying a photo isn't real because it was taken by a digital camera.
The light is recreated in pixels, the watercolor art style is recreated in pixels using digital tools.

You should apply to Mensa they need a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.6187759]

>>6187693
Lmfao at you. I didnt write it was THE best seller. learn to read. A cintiq and a good computer still costs money. Why would I need to know more about plastic shit to make good art? You have not even made art. Do you know anything about vermilion or rose madder and why virtually no one would buy 200 ml of those paints or a 72"x96" stretched canvas? Lmfao i could make that in wood with better priming for less. Unlike with digicucks, tradchads have something called diy.

[Anonymous No.6187857]

>>6187759
You pick retard shit you're gonna get retard shit flung back, just embarrassing anon. But stay within your one medium, small brain anon, it's ok to be stupid.

[Anonymous No.6187866]

>>6183489
I actually bought a Cintiq 16 the other day and it was only around $600
Was unironically completely worth it.

I've drawn on ipads and normal tablets before, this is so much better than all of them. And its so much easier to do linework on than my intous for only $200 more. Definitely worth it, don't know about the more expensive versions though but I assume they must have something going for it.

[Anonymous No.6187875]

>>6187866
>normal tablets
what does this mean?

[Anonymous No.6187880]

>>6187875
non-screen tablets, idk what they're called but they're the ones i usually see people refer to as tablets.

[Anonymous No.6187883]

>>6187880
>idk what they're called
typically pen tablets vs display tablets

[Anonymous No.6187892]

>>6187883
they both have pens, that's silly.

either way, way more comfortable than my intuos which happened to break and it was barely more expensive. and its far better than my ipad.

I only have 3 issues with it.
>screen isn't as nice as my primary screen (1980x1020 and saturation/contrast is kinda meh)
>wires (display port + power cable + usb) makes it a harder to move around my desk and its much bulkier. I can fit it under my monitor but there's not that much room to spare and it took over my drink area
>no hot-keys
which is why i hate my ipad. i can sorta angle my keyboard to still use them though but there's no express keys on the tablet by default. the more expensive models have them but not the cheap 16. so i have to fuck around with my keyboard to get everything set up just right. not a big deal just slightly inconvenient.

[Anonymous No.6187896]

Will never understand tradfags malding about digital. Half of the result is your tools doing all the work for you. You would not be able to achieve a fraction of the texture without your crutch tools, and in this sense even the cave drawings of the ancients mog you. If you think digital is inferior I implore you try it and create art to prove everyone right, but we all know you probably got filtered by it's higher skill curve

[Anonymous No.6187903]

>>6187892
>$600 for a 16" 1080p screen
we can't keep letting them get away with this

[Anonymous No.6187908]

>>6187903
tbf the 2nd monitor i bought at the same time is also 1080p and was around $400. and an intous is $400 for no screen.

either way these are pretty low for hobby numbers, guy i work with just spent 10k to go fucking camping.

[Anonymous No.6187912]

>>6187908
>guy i work with just spent 10k to go fucking camping.
how? did he buy an rv?
I'm just disgusted that wacom still charges what they do. $600 will get you a 24" QHD display from xp pen.

[Anonymous No.6187914]

>>6187912
Its probably upcharged to hell.
I still don't trust chink brands though.

[Anonymous No.6187920]

>>6187914
wacom tablets are made in china, friend

[Anonymous No.6187924]

>>6187920
There's a difference between made in China and designed by China, friend

[Anonymous No.6187950]

>>6187924
the chinese brands are designed in japan
amigo

[Anonymous No.6187956]

>>6183082
FPBP

[Anonymous No.6187963]

>>6187734
digital photography is a lesser form of photography as you can just easily manipulate that image later
watercolor is a real permanent medium meanwhile digital is a fucking kids toy with perfect eraser and layers and no drying time and no physical interaction between wet spots

[Anonymous No.6187968]

>>6187963
>it's bad because it doesn't have shitty limitations

[Anonymous No.6188027]

>>6187950
>Willingly using xp-pen
I shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.6188040]

>>6183085
reminder that all your favorite anime/video game art is digital, retard.

[Anonymous No.6188041]

i like both

[Anonymous No.6188049]

>>6187963
>you can easily manipulate that image later
you can scan an analog photo and edit it too, retard.
>muh digital iz bad cuz u can't make permanent mistakes!
seethe, mistake maker.

[Anonymous No.6191023]

the only thing i emvy about tradfags is their ability to sell originals and if they are truly good enough, they dont even need a following to sell their art. imagine an artist like daniel keys who being completely unknown and them walking into galleries with his stuff. hed be an instant sensation in the gallery world.

as opposed to digital artists where there are probably artists on the level of craifg mullins and ruan jia who nobody knows and makes nothing from their work unless they get lucky and actually attract a studio by sending in theor work

[Anonymous No.6191056]

>>6191023
>on the level of craifg mullins and ruan jia
are these supposed to be recognizable names?

[Anonymous No.6191383]

>>6183089
>>6183026
>mfw have to invent new word for it because tradfags are so insecure
Okay then, I'm gonna schmlaint a schmlainting on my cintiq now. Is that okay princess?

[Anonymous No.6191399]

Damn! I was in art college (graphic design) and was talking with teacher who was doing oil painting classes. And during our conversation we talked about digital PAINTing a little bit. And I told her about interesting use of PAINT in particular piece. She looked at me like I farted in her face. Now I understand source of her butthurt.

[Anonymous No.6191664]

>>6191056
to a tradfag? nah id be more surprised if an exclusively traditional artist was familiar with either of them

mullins and jia are like the bouguereau/sargent/leyendecker (in terms of notoriety) of digital art, so yeah, id be a little surprised if any digital artist that have ever been interested in concept art or illustration wasnt familiar with either of those artists. it would kind of be like a fine artist not knowing who bouguereau or sargent or leyendecker are. its possible that a top tier traditional painter could have gone their whole career not knowing or hearing about any of them, but it would be surprising. i suppose if youre actually a beginner or are only interested in animu or furry art or something than i guess it would be more understandable

[Anonymous No.6191669]

>>6183123
>writes "medium: digital gouache" in the description on artstation

[Anonymous No.6192102]

>>6185979
>>6186158
Most people are not buying $400 oil paint tubes

[Anonymous No.6192110]

>>6186970

It can't be mimicked though. You can always tell apart the real thing from a fake digital effect, but maybe in the future...

[Anonymous No.6192139]

>>6186970
There may be certain looks that result from using water color, and the more common ones are described as effects of watercolor, but water color is a medium. Not an effect.

[Anonymous No.6192177]

>>6192110
>You can always tell apart the real thing from a fake digital effect
which of these are digital, which are traditional?

[Anonymous No.6192178]

>>6192102
most people aren't buying $3500 tablets either.

[Anonymous No.6192187]

>>6192177
let's make it a 2 parter just for more sample size

[Anonymous No.6192188]

>>6192177
Different anon
Top two are digital. Last two are too low res to tell, last might be a real watercolor. All 4 suck.
Clearly the advantage of a traditional picture is that it’s an actual object and not just pixels so I don’t know why you are comparing jpegs anyway.

[Anonymous No.6192190]

>>6192188
>so I don’t know why you are comparing jpegs anyway.
because you can "always" tell. If there's no discernable difference when viewing them as pixels, then you can't always tell, can you?

[Anonymous No.6192191]

>>6192190
You’re replying to a different person dumbass. Obviously you can tell the difference when you see the original. You know, when it actually matters for a real painting? Lol

[Anonymous No.6192196]

>>6192191
>Obviously you can tell the difference when you see the original
this might be the dumbest thing I've ever read here.

[Anonymous No.6192226]

>>6192139
>medium
Descibe this
>effect
Means anything. It's literally what is preseived by man eyes, which is the definition of subjective.

If anything, women would be the only people qualities to tell the difference because they can pick up more colors than men down to pure genetics. If they don't care, then there's factually no difference.

[Anonymous No.6192255]

>>6192226
I changed my mind. THIS might be the dumbest thing I've ever read here.

[Anonymous No.6192273]

Crusty ass jpegs but my guesses are (D = digital, T = trad)
>>6192177
DD
DT
>>6192187
TD
DT

[Anonymous No.6192289]

>>6192177
First two digital, third probably digital, and fourth is real
>>6192187
First two real, third digital and fourth is real.

[Anonymous No.6192298]

>>6192226
Holy shit so much mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.6192415]

>>6192178
Yes but most digital chuds know tablet prices but have no idea what the value of traditional supplies is so I had to clairify

[Anonymous No.6192428]

>>6191383
I unironically want schmlainting to be a thing

[Anonymous No.6192436]

>>6192273
6/8
>>6192289
7/8

Guess it's settled that you can mostly tell digital from traditional, even with shitty low res jpgs

[Anonymous No.6192475]

>>6192436
>Guess it's settled
>3 samples = objective truth
This place is shit.

[Anonymous No.6192493]

>>6192475
considering they got almost all of them right, and they're just random nobodies, I don't really see how you can say it's not somewhat easy to tell.

[Anonymous No.6192537]

>>6187734
There is more to art than just its appearance. Digital watercolor is not the same as real watercolor because it’s a different experience, it’s tangible, its more intimate. People like you are incapable of understanding this difference not just in art but in everything else. You think that as long as it looks the same and appeals to your base impulse, then it’s exactly the same. You’re like an middle-intelligence consumer who thinks highly processed food is the same or better than fresh food.

[Anonymous No.6192564]

As someone who 3d prints things out of plastic and paints them to look like bronze using acrylic paint, I demand the same recognition as someone who casts bronze and chisels in the details.

[Anonymous No.6192592]

>>6192537
You're one of the people who think reading physical books is superior to ebooks because of the paper smell and feel aren't you?

[Anonymous No.6192619]

>>6192592
Why don’t you just live in VR, they can create an experience just like real life. What’s the difference?

[Anonymous No.6192659]

>>6183082
Shibaraki sensei I kneel

[Anonymous No.6192677]

>>6192564
Not even slightly similar

[Anonymous No.6192696]

>>6192677
but it's all about appearance. besides "bronze" is just the finish that irl bronze has

[Anonymous No.6192699]

Money made from traditional art: $130,000

Money made from digital painting: $0

[Anonymous No.6192705]

>>6192696
I know you think you're being clever, but it's really not even slightly similar.

[Anonymous No.6192789]

>>6185979
>tfw I'm too poor to afford Rose Madder so I have to settle for regular Rose Mad instead

[Anonymous No.6192807]

>>6192699
Good for you Brian, I still find it hard to respect your work but I'm just happy you haven't gone as low as abstract art or "conceptual" art that's been going around lately.

[Anonymous No.6192817]

>>6183026
Given that I want to create nice images and share them online, my use of digital is 100% pragmatic
Traditional would have me constantly buying supplies and I'd have less tools available to me
I don't have to worry about scanning them and keeping the originals in a folder somewhere
Digital is easier, faster, more efficient, and more flexible
The only thing I lose is being able to physically display my art, and even that's very solvable
If you want to stay trad because it makes you feel superior, enjoy yourself
I draw digitally because I'd be a moron not to

[Anonymous No.6192829]

>>6192619
Oh my god you are so dumb it's unreal

[Anonymous No.6193079]

>>6192705
yes it is. imitation is just as legitimate as the real thing.
i even modeled the sculpture on a 3d program. it's digital but still sculpting something.

[Anonymous No.6193096]

>>6192619
>>6192537
Pure autism and nonsense, you would be laughed at by everyone irl except for pseudo-intellectual circlejerks of morons like you

[Anonymous No.6193135]

>>6188049
>mistake maker
Says the one who spams ctrl+z every other second
>>6193079
>legitimate
Lmao no it isn't colors do not blend move and mix in digital

[Anonymous No.6193139]

>>6183026
>mfw OP uses a photo of an actor to depict his ill placed emotion about how he feels digital art isn't real.

[Anonymous No.6193448]

>>6193096
this. why do museums even bother to put up paintings and the suckers fall for it? they could just print out the thing on canvas texture. same thing. or even just have dispay panels with which the visitors can browse through the artworks.

[Anonymous No.6193504]

Why are digital artist soo sensitive? Just be proud of what you do, some people wont care for it but that's fine. Don't get bullied by trad chads.

[Anonymous No.6193570]

>>6192537
Who the fuck touches art? Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6193575]

>>6193079
This. No rules, just tools.

[Anonymous No.6193578]

Why are traditional artist soo sensitive? Just be proud of what you do, some people wont care for it but that's fine. Don't get bullied by digichads.

[Anonymous No.6193702]

>>6193504
>trad artist complains about simple terminology
>digital artists call him a retard
>OMG WHY ARE YOU SO SENSITIVE??? :(

[Anonymous No.6193734]

>>6183026
what other verb would you prefer?
I'm stylusing?

[Anonymous No.6193745]

>>6193702
Yep. You can feel digicuck rage whenever their art is not recognized as real art. Whereas actual (in the sense of existing) art is generally called real art without question unless they do weird modernist art or manchild art like anime (which is most of ic, so even if the digicucks worked with real materials, they still are not real artists).
No one ever thought an artist would be better or more impressive if they did digital.

[Anonymous No.6193841]

>>6193745
what a retarded viewpoint.

[Anonymous No.6193844]

>>6193702
Know your place

[Anonymous No.6193848]

>>6193841
rage more.

[Anonymous No.6193859]

>>6193745
Also you ask a digital artist how to buy their art and they’re like “give me $10 a month” or “buy this poster or tote bag” whereas you can just fucking buy someone’s painting, and have it.

[Anonymous No.6193877]

>>6193848
I'm not angry at all. I just think you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.6193885]

>>6193745
>>6193859
Based take

[Anonymous No.6194144]

>>6193745
post your traditional work or cease your blather

[Anonymous No.6194305]

>>6183026
do you also get mad when a construction document is called a "drawing" even if the architect made it in cad with a mouse?

[Anonymous No.6194310]

>>6183026
>this is the console wars of /ic/
yikes

[Anonymous No.6194312]

>>6194305
I get horny.

[Anonymous No.6194320]

>>6194310
nah, no one here actually cares. no one even draws.