A.I SCHIZOS ON SUICIDE WATCH

[Anonymous No.6181513]

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-03-03-art-our-sake-artists-cannot-be-replaced-machines-study


>When conceptualising human and machine creativity,
we find that artists highlighted a difference in scope:
while ML models could help produce surprising
variations of existing images, the artist is irreplaceable
in giving these images artistic context and intention.
As artists highlighted, the creativity involved in art-
making is about making creative choices––a practice
beyond of the capabilities of current ML technology.
Reflecting on their ML-based practices, artists
found many similarities with past periods in art history:
the code-based and computer arts of the 1960s and
1970s and the harnessing of randomness by much
experimental art. Many also found the generative
capabilities of ML models to be a “step change”
departure from past tools.
Ultimately, however, most agreed that despite
the increased affordances of ML technologies, the
relationship between artists and their media remains
essentially unchanged––as artists ultimately work to
address human, rather than technical, questions.


WE GOT TOO COCKY AI BROS
WE NEED NEW FUD

[Anonymous No.6181522]

>button pressors are artists because they write shitty prompts
this article was probably written by an ai btw

[Anonymous No.6181526]

>>6181522
>oxford university
its over bro

[Anonymous No.6181531]

>>6181522
>written by researchers at oxford
its over bro

[Anonymous No.6181532]

>>6181513
This article says in pretty clear terms that artists will be directing AI to create art to communicate "messages" that can only come from "human experience".
The study was also done in 2019, years before the current flurry of AI's including Dall-e 3.
It still sounds pretty bleak to any artist who is counting on technical mastery to be a selling point in their art. Sounds like writers and AD's get to keep their jobs and that's it.
That said I think even this article is overhyping AI's.

[Anonymous No.6181538]

>>6181532
>directing AI to create art to communicate "messages" that can only come from "human experience".
says the exact opposite tf

[Anonymous No.6181539]

>>6181532
>The study was also done in 2019

Cope

>AI and the Arts: How Machine Learning is Changing Artistic Work. Ploin, A., Eynon, R., Hjorth I. & Osborne, M.A. (2022)

[Anonymous No.6181545]

>>6181532
>directing AI to create art to communicate "messages" that can only come from "human experience".
I'd rather be working at mcdonalds

[Anonymous No.6181547]

>>6181538
>She adds, ‘Artistic creativity is about making choices [what material to use, what to draw/paint/create, what message to carry across to an audience] and develops in the context in which an artist works. Art can be a response to a political context, to an artist’s background, to the world we inhabit. This cannot be replicated using machine learning, which is just a data-driven tool. You cannot – for now – transfer life experience into data.’
This exact paragraph here.
It's saying that the only input a human gives is deciding that the message of this artwork is "niggers are human too" and the AI does the rest.

[Anonymous No.6181548]

>>6181532
what if we...
hey hear me out
what if we combine a prompt randomizer with a story generating AI and that with Dall-e! Maybe this way we can finally replace all creative human endeavor!

[Anonymous No.6181552]

Idk I feel like AI is similar to references.
It helps out /beg/s but at a certain point it's more effort to find references than to just draw from memory.

[Anonymous No.6181556]

>>6181547
>Artistic creativity is about making choices [what material to use, what to draw/paint/create, what message to carry across
>This cannot be replicated using machine learning,

what you said

>This article says in pretty clear terms that artists will be directing AI to create art to communicate "messages

sorry anon
>This cannot be replicated using machine learning,
we got too cocky bro. We'll stick with asian genes for now

[Anonymous No.6181565]

>>6181513
>As artists highlighted, the creativity involved in art-making is about making creative choices––a practice beyond of the capabilities of current ML technology.
In other words what everyone who doesn't buy into Google/OpenAI PR have been saying to the idiots posting end-is-near nonsense about AI. The sad thing about this delusional attitude is that even with the available studies and evidence, it's not going to go away. In fact, it is a noted phenomenon that some people irrationally attached to a belief will only cling to it more when it's shown to be wrong.

[Hoboanon No.6181609]

U know what, from this point on ai is just a meme, who cares?

[Anonymous No.6181629]

>>6181565
>studies and evidence

[Anonymous No.6181667]

>>6181513
Writers are selling partially generated novels already:

https://www.theverge.com/c/23194235/ai-fiction-writing-amazon-kindle-sudowrite-jasper

[Anonymous No.6181669]

>>6181513
>N-NO DONT WORRY BRO WE WONT TAKE OVER HUMANITY
Good grief, bot. Why the fuck did OpenAI decided to use 4chan to train their chatbots?

[Anonymous No.6181678]

>>6181513
>the artist is irreplaceable
in giving these images artistic context and intention
>nude anime fanart floating in the void
>anime having sex
>gaytransfurries being retarded
>woe is me comics
>omg thats literally me comics
>american comics
>any of the kawaii uwu weeb shit
>shit on a canvas in form of a vagina that portrays the plight of african rice farmers apparently
>a woman in a bodysuit pissing on the floor
>abstract art
>modern art
>any kind of scenery and scenarios
sure needs a lot of intention and context that can't be replicated by some computer

AI is the ultimate filter; anyone doing art for the sake of clout and financial gain will be forced out.
And any human that stays in protest of AI, going as far as inorganically boosting their art and the demand around it, will only lose money and waste resources.

The era of art as a consumer product with any value is over.
The era of pretentious artists is over.
The era of predators posing as artists is over.
The era of children drawing porn is over.
The era of fujotrannies is over.

Now everyone can be an artist and you will not be able to compete.

[Anonymous No.6181701]

>>6181678
>The era of children drawing porn is over.
The database is scrubbed of such things, so loli artists will survive.

[Anonymous No.6181739]

>>6181678
>The era of art as a consumer product with any value is over.
>The era of pretentious artists is over.
>The era of predators posing as artists is over.
>The era of children drawing porn is over.
>The era of fujotrannies is over.
None of these will cease to exist though?
Art is just going to be entirely monetized by big tech as a consumer product (and will be seen as one).
Preventions artists will increase 9999^4444x in size since everyone will think they're geniuses thanks to the art AI just generated.
Degenerates will have to jump through no hoops in skill or money to have their fetishes made into images once hentAIs are explored.

[Anonymous No.6182034]

>>6181678
oxford researchers > some anons opinion written in his coom stained boxer briefs with a skid stain

Its over bro. At least we'll always have the asian genes to FUD with :/

[Anonymous No.6182083]

>>6182034
yes, goy, go to art school.
We need even more artists.

[Anonymous No.6182122]

>>6182083
>no goy dont draw. A machine will do it for you
>"This cannot be replicated using machine learning,"
bros.... the AI saga is over. We had a good run while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.6182167]

>>6182083
>our cyber egregore needs more artists to meta-absorb their art before singularity is reached

[Anonymous No.6182190]

>>6182034
>researchers >
Not entirely. I'd need to actually read the study first but like 99% of research papers are just students trying to shit something out for the sake of their degree or just researchers trying to up their numbers.
Not all research is good research.

[Anonymous No.6182249]

>>6182190
>99% of research papers
gross exageration

[Anonymous No.6182277]

>the artist is irreplaceable
in giving these images artistic context and intention.
in other words, "artists" in the future will just take credit for their glorified google search terms that that plug into the ai to get the results they want
success will become even more of a crapshoot of luck in getting noticed and getting past the gatekeepers, because skill will become irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.6182280]

>>6181513
We still need new artists for our machines to copy :D, huh? No of course not we wont be paying you for sampling your art for our dataset! Art is free!

By the way we charge 100$ plus ttip an hour for all the jobs that need an artist that our machine does now. Better get a job flipping burgers! Oh, a machine does that too? Not my problem artpig, just keep making new stuff until l you die.

[Anonymous No.6182310]

>>6182280
Don't worry bud, everyone is getting ubi pretty soon. It's not like anyone else will have to end up on the streets until government stars taxing corporations for their... 0.15$ cents generated products plus 50+15 free monthly generations?! Uh oh I hope modern society can deal with sudden labor devaluation from 100% to 0%...

[Anonymous No.6182317]

>>6181513
Pay the royalties for using my art and photos in your machine learning.

PAY UP!

[Anonymous No.6182396]

>>6182280
There needs to be a push for the renovation of Copyright laws. What purpose do they serve if an AI can replicate my style and/or characters if specified to because it synthetized my entire portfolio in its dataset? Plus it also CHARGES and and OVERRIDES my CC with theirs over these generated pictures too.
People need to realise that attacks against big tech might as well be nearly useless by now, but we have the upper hand and all the rights to play defensively against this entity devoid of any. If nobody does a thread about this solution soon, I'm doing one.

[Anonymous No.6182416]

>>6181678
>The era of pretentious artists is over.
on the contrary, now with AI, even the most worthless skilless retards will claim to be "artists" for generating thousands of images. if only it made any sense in the first place, as this makes them nothing more than glorified commissioners anyway
>The era of children drawing porn is over.
these will thrive the most, as AI won't touch this aspect. it's funny how you got everything wrong
>Now everyone can be an artist and you will not be able to compete.
you are commissioning an AI. if your argument made any sense, the AI would be the artist not you. when you commission an artist by giving him "prompts", do you take credit for the art? lol. you're a worthless nobody, you will die like this. you have no idea how much this fact pleases me, and I don't even know to draw myself. this isn't even about "art" at large. i believe in merit, effort, and these things being rewarded because this is what gives creations value. those who try to take shortcuts are nothing more than blood sucking parasites

[Anonymous No.6182431]

>- study
lmao

[Anonymous No.6182534]

>>6182416
>on the contrary [insert a bunch of insecure projections here]
You don't get it.
>these will thrive the most, as AI won't touch this aspect.
You still don't get it.
>you are commissioning an AI [insert more retarded projections, insecurity and downright delusions]
You know nothing.
And no matter how many times you repeat:
>"you're commissioning the AI"
It still isn't an argument because it makes you a hypocrite, because
>if AI is bad, every tool to help facilitate the creation of artwork is bad
Thus, by your own standards, if you don't create amazing pictures in less than one hour using your bare fingers, you're the same as the commissioners you demonize.

You believe in merit, effort and being rewarded, when it's you getting those merits and rewards.
You made it clear.

You should be happy that now everyone can express their creativity without much hassle, yet here you are, trying to drag down artists that don't even exist yet, in your miserable bucket.

I gloat over the fact that pretentious faggots like you will get deleted by AI.

You will have to compete, to actually create something worthwhile and you cannot pat yourself on the back for being able to create art.
But the delusion of having a skill you can boast about, is all you have.
The future is now, crustacean man.

[Anonymous No.6182541]

>>6182534
fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.6182545]

>>6182541
seethe & cope

[Anonymous No.6182548]

>>6181513
>this shit again
Listen, anon, the important point about AI is that at the current day, AI is a state when you can only participate as a creator of the AI by putting a lot of money in the hardware and invest in knowledge to build it, then as a consumer, AI is a product that you will able to use, in monetary terms, if you paid a price.
That's is the original intention in this models as already proven by the same people who are created them. They will be products that will offer a paid service subscription, and if you want to use it for make money, you will have to paid.
That's is a entry barrier for all your idiot teenagers who think they'll just enter words and produce porn just like that, or make drawings for books, etc.

[Anonymous No.6182561]

>>6182548
A paradigm shift will be when microgroups of individuals begin to generate their own AI for their particular purposes. Since as i said before, AI today is a matter of companies and market share, therefore private subjects with their own programmers and their own sets of servers and GPUs are going to create micro systems for their own purposes, for example AI porn, which will also serve as a product.
So the AI work focused on art will be focused on two points:
on the one hand as a consumer, paying a fee, money.
on the other hand as a creator, creating the system to offer it as a product, in a more micro way.
There won't be this dystopian fantasy where everyone can make pictures because every system needs to run servers to function and spend money in the first place, so there won't be free AI running on free magical electricity that everyone can use at the time without their servers crashing, because it is obviously impossible.
That's why it will always be a paid service, until the computers reach such a high level of computation that you can run it at home, and store dalle-2 without spending hundreds of dollars trying to buy multiple 12gb or more GPUs to even run it for your own

[Anonymous No.6183499]

>>6182431
>coping
lmao

[Anonymous No.6183502]

>>6182534
The one phrase that ended AI schizos:
>"This cannot be replicated using machine learning"

[Anonymous No.6183507]

>>6182548
>>6182561
sum this shit up nigga

[Anonymous No.6183561]

>>6181513
>OpenAI pays grad students to write propaganda to keep people calm and prevent negative press while they advertise publicly for sponsors/investors
>retards/copers believe it

If they were publicly advertising their intent to replace industry artists with their ai, they would get the full “dey terk err jerbs!!” treatment from the mainstream. But they are a for profit company, and that is what this is; developing tools that save other companies money when they buy said tools. They spread awareness of their project via free trials and internet exposure, but they do not want to be pinned as the bad guy for the very same PR reasons, so they quell fearmongering to make the transition smoother and save face as they actively deprive people of work.

[Anonymous No.6183565]

>>6183561
furthermore, imagine how much further these projects can go once they get the support and funding they’re seeking. Time marches ever onward and does not roll back, these will only get more powerful as the years go by.

[Anonymous No.6183582]

>>6183502
>be human
>want to make artwork
>think about what you want to draw
>decide you want to draw a
>female with big tits in an arousing pose for the intention of arousal
>use these keywords to create artwork
>create artwork
>apparently a machine cannot do it because... AI bad and it makes artists insecure about their potential earnings.
>Human is apparently better because it spent time drawing because he works so hard thus the cosmos should reward the human for even trying
AI is a machine of course it won't decide to draw shit by itself because it's not alive, it doesn't think. It's a tool, you absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.6183602]

>>6181513
i still wonder what kind of people are part of an art board and take pleasure and pride in using an ai as well as doomposting

even if we already got an ai taking over, it still shows how shitty some of you are as people and need to find something better to fill your free time

like idk, drawing or a gf, or just drawing would be easier for some of you

[Anonymous No.6183604]

>>6181532
>writers
ai is more advanced i writing rn, like, by a mile
it legit is able to already do the job of many freelance writers when it comes to marketing and copywriting work

[Anonymous No.6183705]

>>6183582
holy shit! Why didn't the researchers in the worlds top university think of that anon!

[Anonymous No.6183749]

>>6183705
>the researchers in the worlds top university
Now, who funded the research?

[Anonymous No.6183768]

>>6183749
your mother nigger

[Anonymous No.6183828]

>Get into art thinking it will be the last thing AI will replace
>Literally going to be replaced before bus drivers are

I swear to god I'm living in a fucking simulation hand crafted to make me suffer as much as fucking possible.

[Anonymous No.6183862]

>>6183828
Are you me

[Anonymous No.6183914]

>>6183828
if its any solace, 3d printing did nothing to actual figure/toys market. As a matter of fact its at ATHs

I ain't worried about shit

[Anonymous No.6183933]

>>6183914
Of course they didn't, 3d printing machines don't generate infinite custom-made toys for free

[Anonymous No.6183936]

>>6183933
huh

[Anonymous No.6184096]

https://www.engadget.com/dall-e-generative-ai-tracking-data-privacy-160034656.html

It was literally making images that still had stock image watermarks on them still.

It's 100% just stealing work. No way they paid for the billions of images for their data.

Also, regarding the article's comments, humans do not need to see billions of images to figure out concepts. We do not "copy" like a machine does. AI clearly doesn't learn or get inspired like humans do and I hope they get sued to shit by stock image sites.

[Anonymous No.6184121]

>>6184096
https://www.change.org/p/regulate-ai-image-generators/dashboard?source_location=user_profile_started

[Anonymous No.6184230]

>>6184096
So the people hyping this shit up lied, because while doing some digging, all these fanboys kept telling people "uh, it's not a photobashing tool, the ai literally is making it from scratch". But now there's an instance of a logo slipping out? Are these fanboys shills on a payroll or are they retards?

[Anonymous No.6184766]

>>6183936
3D printers require raw materials and specified designs, AI drawings cost nothing but time and processing power. Anon’s saying that they are not comparable, and that the art market will be flooded with ai works as people plug in keywords and click start.

[Anonymous No.6184930]

>>6184230
If these images begin to spread not even their reddit army will be able to defend their practises. If memory serves, inferior AIs like Midjourney still have watermarks around them occasionally, while Dall-E 2 completely blurred them out. I wonder how I could even send a notice to Shutterstock about this. They vehemently prohibit their images for being datamined and used for these purposes, yet look at this

[Anonymous No.6184982]

>>6184930
>tfw stock image sites might save artists
An unlikely hero but a welcome one

[Anonymous No.6184997]

>>6184982
Read the article. The journo contacted photoshop but they refused to comment on it. My guesses are:
1- They are preparing a lawsuit
2- They are being coaxed by Google not to do anything
3- They and other stock sites secretly agreed to it and receive royalties per image generation

[Anonymous No.6185190]

>>6184766
you realize the raw materials cost next to nothing right

[Anonymous No.6185200]

>>6184997
>>6184982
AI SCHIZOS JUST KEEP LOSING

[Anonymous No.6185391]

>>6184930
Are those pics from dalle 2? Because they usually have a striped color bar in the corner. What's funny is that redditors stopped simping when the program had to be paid for instead of being free

[Anonymous No.6185559]

>>6181513
Fuck man I feel pretty demoralized.
I was just browsing twitter, saw this and thought, wow, amazing I wish I could paint like that, who is the artist? I must find out. Which for me is pretty rare.
Then I slowly realized it was made by an AI.
fuck everything

[Anonymous No.6185563]

It bothers me because this is the first time I've been fooled and was genuinely in awe by a piece of shit ai phoney

[Anonymous No.6185710]

>>6185563
>It bothers me because this is the first time I've been fooled and was genuinely in awe by a piece of shit ai phoney

[Anonymous No.6185725]

>>6181678
Critics have already been reacting to AI art in the same way painters did to photography a century ago. The only difference now being techne is even more hidden from plain view. AI isn't gonna end art's economic exceptionalism, its status as 'consumer product'—it will only intensify and expand it. If there's any hope to compete, then artists must reevaluate theories on the intersection of art making and revolutionary politics; most notability abolishing the distinction between artist-architect and worker. The artist must proletarianize themselves in order to survive.

[Anonymous No.6185732]

>>6185725
gotta form a committee for the reconstitution of the artists' union https://www.artforum.com/slant/andrew-hemingway-on-cultural-democracy-and-the-new-deal-art-programs-82962

[Anonymous No.6185734]

>>6185725
shut up commie

[Anonymous No.6185752]

>>6181513
looks like we have to go back doing traditional art

[fortune No.6185765]

>>6185752
100% agree with this. They never asked the artists from the dataset

[Anonymous No.6185791]

>>6185725
It's way easier to approach this from a law angle rather than try leading a counter revolution against the tech sector. These datamining companiess are using pretty much every digitalized image found in the surface web, even your face, to train their tools and commercialize them.

I'm not much of a lawfag when it comes to things beyond banking affairs, but companies like OpenAI profit over abusing so many grey areas in the law that if pressed enough they're bound to lose at some point, especially when any clear outcome of this situation could be used to highlight to every content creator how obsolete Intellectual Property laws are right now and influencee a reform to them either way. If I owned an IP I would surely be the first to try and profit from this golden mine of lawsuits over shit like picrel

[Anonymous No.6185806]

>>6185734
You know I'm right. The present debate isn't new; it's just an extension of critical reactions to the excruciatingly slow development of photography as an artistic medium in the first half of the 20th century.
>>6185752
This has been the case with every popular iteration of algorithmic / generative / AI art (whatever you want to call it). I remember trying to neural style transfer working locally on my computer back 2015 and seeing a bunch of 'deepstyle' startups with the same business model.

[Anonymous No.6185846]

>>6185791
Why not both? Here in the US, 40+ years of advancements in the tech sector has brought us the free software and free culture movements. While they had their merits; both insisted on operating within the confines of bourgeois copyright law, and look where that's got us. The reason why things have gone mostly unchallenged is because neither movement managed to produce a critique of intellectual property AS private property; it's all taken as a given. Our copyright system prioritizes rent seeking of intellectual property above all else. Don't you think it's a little sad that most artists' aspirations today can be reduced to living off of royalties for the rest of their lives? It's how you get artists supporting the lawsuit against Internet Archive: their logic is basically "not enough crumbs of the rent-seeking system are falling to artists, therefore we must increase the rent-seeking"—it's just absurd. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that the artist doesn't traditionally see themselves as a worker. We're often paid through private patronage, not in real wages. If we were guaranteed the latter, then we might have a better time negotiating the barest copyright reform.

[Anonymous No.6185864]

>>6185806
*trying to get neural style transfer working

[Anonymous No.6185872]

>>6181513
Its not only drawfags that will get necked, ai is also learning how to code, write stories and produce music, resulting in more and more avenues for freelancing getting closed
Its really incredible the length at which they are willing to go to stuff everyone in wage cages
Other than cutting costs for companies and commisioners, this technology serves absolutely zero purpose

[Anonymous No.6185900]

>>6185846
Occam's razor. If one expects to enact some communist/socialist overhaul policy against the rent seeking system over the case of Intellectual Property Laws being mass infringed, little people would follow this move that far, especially when taking in account how many countries would have to agree over revising all their economic concepts to make this work insteaI of simply focusing on prohibiting the current neoplagiarism provided by fauxtomation tools.

Now if one simply aims to reaffirm Intellectual Property every content creator would unilaterally agree to that.

[Anonymous No.6185922]

>>6185872
This, too. The CEO of OpenAI says that he supports UBI in case the project is allowed to go that far to leave a gigantic trail of unemployment. But how many people will have to starve until such concept is even discussed seriously by official figures? What about all the content creators in third world shitholes like mine where governments would break after allowing UBI? This is going to end up in some sort of capitalist-communist global dystopia where almost everyone is equally fucked except chinese product resellers and top CEOs who retained their jobs thanks to nepotism

[Anonymous No.6185962]

>>6185900
You don't have to organize it on a communist basis. The last time American artists were offered an alternative to private arts patronage in any significant capacity was through the Works Progress Administration during the 1930s and 1940s. Hell, even the much maligned Jackson Pollock got his start as an artist while on WPA payroll. Artists getting commissions while on government wages isn't a new concept; it even lives on today in capitalist countries with more social democratic sympathies. If the artist is a wage-laborer; then the artist can form a union. And if the artist can form a union, then they can fight for certain rights just like any other worker.
>Now if one simply aims to reaffirm Intellectual Property every content creator would unilaterally agree to that.
What you're describing here is a Pandora's Box of already draconian copyright enforcement; do not want.

[Anonymous No.6185961]

>>6183602
>doomposting


What "doom"? Art was always about making whatever you want how ever you want to make them. The only thing that's different is now instead of nepotistic hires churning out soul garbage its a computer. But YOU still have the ability to express yourself and AI doesn't change that.

[Anonymous No.6185971]

>>6185961
soulless garbage*

[Anonymous No.6186011]

>>6185962
Problem is, your thinking is outdated. The government paid for artists in the 1940s because their art was needed and encouraged more than ever for propaganda purposes (both direct propaganda or cultural flaunting). Now they can and will be put aside since there are already good enough artists who never complain and charge little to nothing for 9 variations of any commision. Did london's textile workers manage to get the government to pay them wages once textile machines took over their work? I don't think so lol

My point is that, telling people you're a special worker class and deserves to receive govt wages (while many other people unemployed before you did and received nothing) because you draw nice is not going to fly as good as you think it will. Compared to all this train of thought you developed, Intellectual Property laws always existed and Nintendo is still suing people on a monthly basis, so why of all people should the devil itself —an AI that profits from artists' work— be spared from the chance of being put down through it?

[Anonymous No.6186070]

>>6182396
>Copyright laws
>replicate my style and/or characters if specified to because it synthetized my entire portfolio in its dataset
All work made by AI is more or less transformative. You can't stop it learning from you, just like you can't stop me learning either, once you post it, it's fair game.

[Anonymous No.6186076]

>>6186011
>Problem is, your thinking is outdated.
Nope. Congresscritters were looking for propose a fraction of what was spent on the WPA to revitalize the so-called 'creative economy' as late as last year: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/bill-proposes-putting-unemployed-artist-to-work-public-projects-2016838
>their art was needed and encouraged more than ever for propaganda purposes (both direct propaganda or cultural flaunting)
Their art wasn't so much used for propaganda as it was in cultivating what's often been described as a 'middlebrow' consumer culture, but this was always gonna be the case given how short-lived the WPA actually was. Here's a great interview with Reuben Kadish where he speculates what could've been had it lasted into the post-war era: https://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/interviews/oral-history-interview-reuben-kadish-12286
>Did london's textile workers manage to get the government to pay them wages once textile machines took over their work? I don't think so lol
I don't know anything about labor in the UK, but garment workers' unions saw massive growth in the late 19th and early 20th centuries here in the US (talkin peak industrialization).

[Anonymous No.6186080]

>>6186011
>telling people you're a special worker class and deserves to receive govt wages
Artists are already in a special 'class' of their own; we're skilled craftsmen, a carryover from the middle ages. It speaks to the poverty of how most artists see themselves when the furthest extent they're willing to organize is something resembling the guild model.
>because you draw nice is not going to fly as good as you think it will.
Oh I know; it didn't fly well in the 1930s either; in fact it was the one of the first things conservative critics highlighted to showcase FDR's supposed 'communist' sympathies lol.
>so why of all people should the devil itself —an AI that profits from artists' work— be spared from the chance of being put down through it?
I wasn't arguing that it shouldn't; just that our current copyright system itself is broken, and subjecting AI art to it probably won't be as much justice as most probably hope.

[Anonymous No.6186089]

>>6186076
>propose a fraction of what was spent on the WPA to revitalize the so-called 'creative economy' as late as last year
Let's not forget that the original Artists' Union started out as one of the Communist Party's Unemployed Councils.

[Anonymous No.6188153]

>>6182310
>everyone is getting ubi pretty soon
your only value to your government is the taxes you pay, ubi will remove your value and will only signal worse times

[Anonymous No.6189591]

>>6188153
>your only value to your government is the taxes you pay, ubi will remove your value and will only signal worse times

This.

When UBI rollouts come, the clock is ticking. It's only a matter of time before mass extermination of the useless population occurs.

[Anonymous No.6189906]

>>6188153
so what youre saying is we wont need the government anymore

[Anonymous No.6189919]

>>6185872
>AI can barely flip a burger let alone create all the things just said
Not worried. Wake me up when it actually happens
>just 2 more weeks anon

[Anonymous No.6189927]

>>6189906
that's a dangerous statement anon

[Anonymous No.6189931]

Am I missing something? None of this is a problem if you have your own IP.

[Anonymous No.6189989]

AI is a tool and like all new tools it will make some jobs easier by rendering other obsolete.

Remeber the job of telephone operators?
They faded out becouse some cunt angered an undertaker so much by rerouting his clinets to her husbands bussness that he invented the automatic telephone operator.

I see future artists in the position of "AI directors" that control the AIs output rather than making art themself.

If you dont like this future its maybe best to quit being an artist.

[Anonymous No.6190021]

>>6189989
>I see future artists in the position of "AI directors" that control the AIs output rather than making art themself.
"This cannot be replicated using machine learning"

anon just let it go. The AI FUD arch was good while it lasted

[Anonymous No.6190068]

>>6190021
>"This cannot be replicated using machine learning"
not yet but soon(tm)
And what is stopping current day artists to use AI pregenerated images?
This debate is the classic "i dont like and/or understand new thing therefore new thing muss go away."

[Anonymous No.6190104]

>>6190068
see
>>6189919
>not yet but soon (tm)
just two more weeks anon

[Anonymous No.6190105]

>>6190104
Reseach have come a long way, so I wouldn't be surprised if the time really comes in 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.6190134]

>>6190105
Research really has. Its in the OP

[Anonymous No.6190149]

>>6190104
The fact that you're in this AI thread invested in trying to maintain this posturing so hard means AI has already gone far enough to poke you, so this is kind of a moot point to discuss while in denial

[Anonymous No.6190153]

>>6190149
>This cannot be replicated using machine learning

Umad?

[Anonymous No.6190169]

>>6190134
>>6190153
nice oneliners
next time say something useful for the debate we have at hand.

[Anonymous No.6190195]

>>6190169
Already did. You're the one coping by saying
>Just two more weeks bro!
im sleep

[Anonymous No.6190198]

>>6190149
>you disagree with me, that means that secretly you agree with me

[Anonymous No.6190201]

>>6189906
more like the govrnnment won't need you

[Anonymous No.6190993]

>>6185791
indeed. Is the same with copilot and github. They are bassically stealing work from developers, and any sane person should fade github forever.

[Anonymous No.6191005]

>>6181609
Personally I would'nt care if there is an AI that could replace artists. Like cars made cowboys obsolete, or fireguns killed the samurai.

But this """"AI""" thing Is profiting from work of tons of artists. I don't think there is something "original", it feels like systematic plagiarization .

If something should worry artists is not being replaced by AI right now, but being cucked by tech companys.

[Anonymous No.6191239]

>>6181532
>>6181513
Use your brain zogbots:
-be guy, use AI, create art using one of those 3d printers and rake tens of thousands
Or
>be artists, create a some kind of syndicate
Or...

Second choice will be hellish but that way you can protect your "human value"

[Anonymous No.6192933]

>>6188153
>your only value to your government is
Consumption.
Wealth is generated on trust, and trust comes from the simulacrum of value that comes with consumption.
We're literally living in a toy economy because billionaires can only exist if employment rates are near 100% and everyone is able to consume the products. The only reason UBI hasn't happened yet is the right hasn't been powerful enough to make meaningful structural changes, and the left can't allow UNIVERSAL social aid to exist because their voter buying platform depends on social resentment.

[Anonymous No.6196231]

All this seething while I am busy GENEROOTING art. I am the GENEROOTOR. I am the MACHINE WHISPERER.

[Anonymous No.6196397]

>>6185752
Was this generated by GPT3? Kinda looks like one of those

[Anonymous No.6197817]

>>6196397
This is actually funny. kek

[Anonymous No.6197857]

>>6185752
I wouldn't care about them feeding it copyrighted shit left right and centre if they weren't so faggy about what you can tell it to make. Sorry, did you type in a wrongthink word? They don't even give you a list of shit you aren't allowed to look for, just have to hope that whatever you are generating doesn't contain a no-no word or concept

[Anonymous No.6198161]

>>6181513
What are you on about retard. Us "AI schizos" would be delighted to be wrong. I'm on suicide watch because I believe myself to be correct.

[Anonymous No.6198168]

>>6191005
No meaningful difference in terms of outcome.

[Anonymous No.6198315]

How to get into Delle2? I have friends who got their confirmation after a month of waiting, and other are still waiting for over a year. How does it work?

[Anonymous No.6199490]

>Heh, computers will never understand the nuance and meanings behind creating art, get replaced by a robot stupid electrician chud
>Art is the literal first thing to get mogged by AI

[Anonymous No.6199577]

>>6199490
Have you been following machine learning at all? Their hands are in everything nowadays. Shit, I know it's been making waves in the medical science fields lately. The only skills that won't be replaced are ones where it's too expensive to replace by a robot.

Also
>computers will never understand the nuance and meanings behind creating art
I mean, that's true so far. It's one of the big issues teams like OpenAI talk about all the time. The machine literally does not know what it's doing and it's why it takes a lot of human input to hold its hands.

[Anonymous No.6199734]

>>6199577
>The only skills that won't be replaced are ones where it's too expensive to replace by a robot.

See; creating a humanoid robot that can 1:1 think, see and do exactly as a human tradesman would do. Yeah sorry mate, circuits are going to be generating their own unique masterpieces by the tens of thousands before any kind of robot can do half of what even a shit retarded tradesman can.

[Anonymous No.6199821]

>>6199734
I can do half the shit a tradesman can do by googling it now. The saving grace of tradesmen is being able to do gruntwork that nobody will want to invent a robot to do now, but you're naive if you think a machine can't be taught to identify and find solutions to things like plumbing and electrical wiring. AI is already on the heels of architects, for example, and it's only a matter of time before swathes of coding jobs are going to be replaced by AI unless you're a top developer. That's *my* field and I'm sweating. I'm no software genius.

What, did you think companies like Microsoft were investing billions JUST to make a machine that can generate waifus for you? LMAO. It's over. Machine learning NOW can compete with a human brain outside of complex problem-solving/creative levels.

[Anonymous No.6199827]

I like animating in 2d. What I hope I'll be able to do is use 3d software to generate a crowd, then draw over it and let ai generate the background crowd thats animated in a 2d style. Right now animating/drawing crowds are the bane of my and every other 2d existance, and if you flat out just use 3d with rendering to try to look 2d and it never does.

[Anonymous No.6199842]

>>6199821
>it's only a matter of time before swathes of coding jobs are going to be replaced by AI unless you're a top developer
It's all going to places like India at the moment anyway, but we are already at the stage where people are coping with stuff like "W-Well, the AI produces lots of errors that'll still require a human to fix."
Software like Dall-E are making waves on the internet because of the immediate visual satisfaction of seeing an AI-generated image, but art generation is by far not a salient spearhead in AI development. Voice acting, writing, music, coding, anything that can be done on a computer WILL be done by the computer, and anything that can be physically done by a machine WILL be done by a machine if a company wants to invest in it. We can't pick and choose what AI replaces. It's all coming or it doesn't.

>>6199827
AI will have lots of practical applications for art, in all seriousness. Turning off the doom and gloom, it'll be interesting to see what artists do with it.

[Anonymous No.6200721]

>>6199821
The one thing AI truly SUCKS at is putting it in a real world scenario, having to take inputs from the real world with various sensors and translating it into the digital world to then interpret that data and manipulate hardware accurately in meat space. Look at self driving for example, on a virtual road computers have been able to perfectly self drive for years and years and years, yet translating that same capability into the real world has been a monstrous undertaking that companies have thrown billions and billions at and still don't have anything even remotely close to what the virtual car can do. This is a relatively simple application of real world AI and they struggle like a motherfucker to get it implemented with all the resources of multi billion dollar megacorps. Now extend this out to doing trade work, if you had ever done a few days of trade work in your life, crawling through tight spaces to figure out 70 years of clusterfuck wiring that looks like a bird nest while dexterously manipulating multiple tools, LMAO the hardware to achieve this is so far away it might as well be science fiction. I'm not saying it won't happen eventually but anyone who's job is to sit at a computer fiddling with software is going to be obsolete long, long before any tradesman.

[Anonymous No.6201713]

>AI threads getting deleted
ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.6201715]

bros...

[Anonymous No.6201719]

every fetish will be catered to.

[Anonymous No.6201722]

>>6191239
Artists are basedfags but once the truckers, taxi drivers, welders, plumbers and electricians start being replaced there will be hell to pay.

It makes me so happy and warm inside imagining all those people banding together to torture and murder STEMfag computer nerds by the tens of thousands.

[Anonymous No.6201724]

>>6201715
what's this from ? diffusion?

[Anonymous No.6201731]

>>6201724
Yeah, I just searched "bikini" on the stable diffusion discord

[Anonymous No.6201733]

Sorry for spamming this thread, I will share just one more.

[Anonymous No.6201734]

>>6181513
>Surely, if we delete every thread discussing the negative implications of powerful AI for artists, that means there are no negative implications.
-/ic/ mod

Pathetic cowards.

[Anonymous No.6201739]

>>6199490
Cosmic Justice, unironically.

[Anonymous No.6201766]

>>6201733
you know this is just going to end anonymity for good right? There is no way the elite are going to be okay with infinite images of them sucking dick or worse all over the internet without someone to jail for it.

[Anonymous No.6201774]

>>6201715
>artstation_painted_by_Wayne_Barlowe_and_Greg_Rutkowski

???????????

[Anonymous No.6201775]

>>6201734
>why isnt my spam fud working
O V E R

[Anonymous No.6201777]

>>6201774
What?

[Anonymous No.6201788]

>>6181548
Sounds like something reddit would do. Congrats you are reddit now.

[Anonymous No.6201797]

>>6201715
>>6201775

>filename
why does it have two different artists

[Anonymous No.6201801]

>>6201777
>>6201715
>filename
why does it have the names of two different artists

[Anonymous No.6201807]

>>6201801
It's the prompt the user came up with to influence the output in the direction of both those artists.

[Anonymous No.6201825]

>>6201807
>combining two artist's work into an image that can't be copyrighted
how does this play out legally

[Anonymous No.6201831]

>>6201825
The artist is payed in exposure.

[Anonymous No.6201840]

>>6201831
So in other words a copyright nightmare in the coming years

[Anonymous No.6201854]

>>6201840
Possibly. I am hoping artists who don't what their art used could apply to have their work removed from the AI databases. Not sure if that's how it works or if the AI already "learned" that artists work and can't unlearn it.

[Anonymous No.6201872]

>>6181548
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Come_Soft_Rains_%28short_story%29

[Anonymous No.6201885]

>>6201715
damn....

[Anonymous No.6201931]

>>6201885
>stolen IP works
OVER

[Anonymous No.6201934]

I made the right decision to swtich from digital over to trad 2 years ago after doing digital 3D for over a decade. AI will take over the concept art world and most will lose their jobs, eventually those images wont be 2d, but 3d scenes you can also interact with, allowing you to change the camera shots, lighting etc. But AI will not take over the art/fine art world, only Digilet concept artists are LEGIT screwed, and i would never recommend anyone go into concept art seeing how fast tech is improving.

Trad will always reign supreme, and people are always going to want to see what a human can do, not some faggy AI. Take the trad pill and launch your bugman graphics tablet into the trash, because the age of the TradChad is about to begin.

[Anonymous No.6201971]

>>6201715
if an AI actually made this I quit

[Anonymous No.6201982]

>>6201934
I do both, If commissions actually stop coming due to AI... Maybe I could get back into animation(my first love).
Nobody buys trad art here, not enough to sustain life anyhow.

[Anonymous No.6201992]

>>6201971
just learn to actually draw anything that isnt generic attractive female front facing pose #230423562903856

[Anonymous No.6201996]

>>6201971
The AI, Stable diffusion, did indeed make that.

Don't quit. draw to the bitter end. If AI actually takes your job in the future,and you no longer can make art your living, cry then, and draw because it's fun.

[Anonymous No.6201997]

>>6181513
>artists and 'intellectuals' cheer for the automation of the jobs of the working class white male
>begin to panic and screech when they finally understand and witness the inevitable removal of their own professions by highly specialized computer programs that can do any subject better than they can express themselves even after years of getting a degree
It makes me so, so warm inside. I hope it creates generations of angry artists that feel cucked by computers and can't make a dime because no one values their faggoty sculptures and paintings of moss anymore. I literally can't fucking wait.

[Anonymous No.6202003]

>>6181532
>that artists will be directing AI
Artists are almost universally technologucally retarded.
Source: parents were artists, gfs were artists, I wanted to be one for a while. You grow up around artists you see the patterns. Almost all of them have huge egos, they think of themselves as warriors, and they have no time for anything that doesn't bend itself to their own perceptions. Like, artists as a whole claim to be open minded but most of them are blinded by their own hubris. They look at computers as retard, nerd shit, except for social media like Insta and still Facebook. These faggots would never direct AI to do shit, that would be akin to a video game to them, and artists hate video games.

[Anonymous No.6202012]

>>6202003
You could have just said that they thought OS9 and a single mouse button was the pinnacle of performance. That said, there are a few artists who aren't retarded but they're pretty rare.

[Anonymous No.6202022]

>>6201996
>The AI, Stable diffusion, did indeed make that.
>make
it took two artists previous works (filename) and put them together. It did not make anything

[Anonymous No.6202028]

>>6201997
>feel cucked by computers and can't make a dime because no one values their faggoty sculptures and paintings of moss anymore. I literally can't fucking wait.
it wont. Also why are you on a art board lmao

[Anonymous No.6202033]

>>6181513
Just give it something out of its comfort zone and the entire thing collapses

[Anonymous No.6202040]

life just keeps getting worse

[Anonymous No.6202043]

>>6202022
You have no idea what you are talking about. Show me the art that those artists made that it combined. you can't because they don't exist. neither greg rutkowski nor wayne barlowe(especially not him) paint naked women.

[Anonymous No.6202046]

>>6202033
eh. it will get there soon enough.

[Anonymous No.6202067]

>>6202043
>>6201715

[Anonymous No.6202081]

>>6202046
now draw it thicc

[Anonymous No.6202085]

How do I get over the fear that I'm gonna /dad/ and in a year I'll just be doing all the same things and making the same mistakes?

[Anonymous No.6202088]

>>6202085
I definitely posted in the wrong thread by mistake. But feel free to reply anyway.

[Anonymous No.6202092]

>>6202043
>wayne barlowe(especially not him) paint naked women.

why are you reeeing

[Anonymous No.6202097]

>>6201996
retard

[Anonymous No.6202142]

>>6201715
Holy fuck...

[Anonymous No.6202144]

>>6202092
That's not a woman...

[Anonymous No.6202148]

>>6202144
Ok judge Ketanji Jackson

[Anonymous No.6202149]

>>6202097
enlighten me.

[Anonymous No.6202154]

>AI Schizos resorting to posting photobashed pics with questionable copyright legality of artist's work to doompost

The schizos final stand

[Anonymous No.6202156]

>>6202154
Photobashed how? how does this work? What is latent space?

[Anonymous No.6202160]

>>6202156
>h-how w-wha what?!
bro go relax

[Anonymous No.6202179]

Reminder that there are some things AI just can't get right. Dall-e couldn't figure out how to make a house or flowers out of bears.

[Anonymous No.6202182]

>>6202160
>Brah, just relax dude brah, take a chill pill.
I AM RELAXED, FAGGOT!!!

[Anonymous No.6202186]

>>6202179
There may be a way to prompt-craft around that, but it might take more work than just making the image yourself.

[Anonymous No.6202191]

>>6202182
>AI threads are now getting deleted, researchers from the worlds top university state AI is no threat, growing copyright legality of the images the AI uses
This is your final hoorah lmao

[Anonymous No.6202198]

>>6202191
Oh I get it now, the artists were the schizos all along... That's why they're artists.

[Anonymous No.6202200]

>>6202179
the grammar is fucked up there though. Anywya having worked with transformers it probably could get it. But I think the temperature on Dalle-2 is turned up so as to avoid overfitting. If it was turned down you'd get it but it would look closer to the actual photos it's stealing from. I'd love to tinker with its setting and turn the temp up to 10 to see full schizo it goes.

[Anonymous No.6202228]

>>6202200
Now I think about it this might be why diffusion is currently better than dalle-2 and why signatures are leaking through. OpenAI are smarter to avoid copyright.

[Anonymous No.6202259]

>>6202198
schizos like you spam this board to the point of getting your threads deleted
>"n-no youre the schizo!"
seethe

[Anonymous No.6202278]

>>6202259
Don't take the bait anon. Ingnore them and they will get bored and leave.

[Anonymous No.6202293]

>>6202278
u rite

[Anonymous No.6202833]

>>6202040
It do be like that

[Anonymous No.6202844]

>>6181678
and when everyone will be an artist noone will be

[Anonymous No.6202851]

>>6202844
i guess, if you're one of those faggots who based their own personality and self esteem on being an ""artist"" that would be kind of a personal tragedy, for nomal people and society at large, it's clearly a net positive

[Anonymous No.6202858]

>make up tonyo and say /dad is after you
>now make up ai threat and say it's after you
>in between make 10 thread per day with shallow stupid questions just to flood the board
>make makima-threads
>keep one or two schizo-skribble threads
probably hard to live with that constant itch in your head, you poor faggot

[Anonymous No.6202869]

>>6202858
Who are you replying to

[Anonymous No.6202870]

>>6202851
desu adversity breeds growth artfags like me will find a way to either supass or assimilate AI art into out workflow akin to how painters simply evolved into digital artists when digital art took the stage
aall ai is doing is thinning the ngmi hordes

[Anonymous No.6202883]

>>6185559
i know the feeling

[Anonymous No.6202930]

>>6181513
i don't get it: are the A.I. schizos the doomers, or the ones in denial?

[Anonymous No.6203120]

>>6202930
both, obv

[Anonymous No.6204084]

Too lazy to read anything about ML Should illustrators be worried or not?

[Anonymous No.6204121]

>>6204084
Anyone who does commercial art that isn't money laundering for rich people with modern art should be worried, yes.

[Anonymous No.6204158]

>>6201715
>in latex bikini
who are you trying to bamboozle?

[Anonymous No.6204183]

>>6204158
the machine has a mind of its own, retardo
your prompt is just a suggestion; 99% times you end up with something close but not exactly what you wrote

[Anonymous No.6204205]

>>6202186
fundies should include writing effective prompts from now on
if you think about it, it's a long overdue change, cause you usually waste several hours fishing for reference material on google image search using a similar skillset, and that activity became a sizeable part of your work time decades ago

[Anonymous No.6204222]

>>6204183
>close but not exactly what you wrote
lame

[Anonymous No.6204232]

>>6204222
i agree, it is, but that's where tech is at today
there's actually a parameter to try to follow your prompt closer, but it only seems to make the results noisier and more illogical

[Anonymous No.6204240]

>>6204222
even asking a human artist to draw something you go through many revisions to get what you want.
If dalle2 made that image, you could just erase the tits and ask it to try again with the bikini. Stable diffusion has that tech too but isn't part of the beta.

[Anonymous No.6204433]

>>6204183
I suspect it's probably overfitting an image of a real girl and that's why it didn't complete the prompt. All the antomy including the bubes are in the right place. Even high parameter models like OpenAI usually have a severed hand merged into the stomach.

>>6204205
this is pretty good image is it AI? Anyway you're correct that prompt writing would be a good talent to do. IF it actually worked so far it's basically just demanding "trending on artstation" dozens of times to find the database to steal from. Secondly none of this will matter soon since the prompts will be automated too. Dozens of preselected images will appear for you and you will make your way through that way. (The prompting will become a black box).

[Anonymous No.6204454]

>>6204433
>is it AI
stable diffusion beta. seems to be the new hotness

[Anonymous No.6204526]

>>6202142
>oh look picture that looks like it was 99% photoshopped from a real photo
>ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.6204662]

>>6181552
That's how I see it too, nothing more but an extension for the artist as a tool. More like an AI cutting the time to think of an idea to create concept art. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up like that after all the meme and overhype of how this will "replaced artists".

[Anonymous No.6205798]

>>6181552
looking for references is an essential part of the illustration work. it might take 1/3rd of you total work time
drawing "from memory" is not an apt substitute in 99% cases, unless you keep autistically repeating your comfort zone same shit. no matter how big is your visual library, if you want a decent final piece you better take your time looking for proper references, and get gud at doing it

[Anonymous No.6206028]

>>6201774
The new ai midjourney let's you add in artist name, or render technique to emulate their style.

[Anonymous No.6206047]

>>6206028
midjourney is more like the old ai, stable diffusion is the new one

[Anonymous No.6206110]

Made with stable diffusion. This AI is really really good at making backgrounds, might even use it myself once it goes public to add backgrounds to my characters.

[Anonymous No.6206122]

>>6206110
the clouds over the buildings are trippy, but overall, amazingly good

[Anonymous No.6206124]

>>6206110
This might be the only use for it once it gets too pozzed and censored to draw anything hot or soulful.

[Anonymous No.6206156]

>>6206110
The dream is over boys, time to wageslave

[Anonymous No.6206161]

>>6206156
Time to join the army. I'll visualize my enemies as AI researchers. My lust for the kill will be unmatched.

[Anonymous No.6206279]

>>6181513
The AI will never replace artist completely but it WILL make art way less valuable in the eyes of the average consoomer. Look at all these language models and ask yourself: have they replaced writers? No, of course not. But now non-writers can create a furry diaper fan fiction of their favourite franchise themselves instead of finding a smut writer who'd do it for few bucks. It'll be the same for art: whenever an average person wants an image of something specific, they'll just feed an AI a prompt and hit the retry button until they get something they're pleased with. On top of that, it can be easily finetuned, and given how many different AI startups there are, the demand for artists will definitely plummet. Just give it 5-10 years before every retard will be able to run a decent open source model on his RTX7060.
>muh two more weeks
Cope.

So if you're learning to draw to start a Patreon/Fanbox and make money by feeding your subs shitty anime feet, you'd better reconsider. But if you're doing it because you want to put your ideas on paper and have fun doing so, you'll be okay.

[Anonymous No.6206579]

damn midjourney is really impressive

I'm a bit scared of the future of ai now to be honest

[Anonymous No.6206581]

>>6206579
>Catalog

[Anonymous No.6206585]

>>6206581

[Anonymous No.6206587]

>>6206110
>This AI is really really good at making
>making

[Anonymous No.6206590]

>>6206585
Image generation leads to video generation then add sound to that, mix it with story generators, vr and you have something more addicting than heroin.

People are already fucked up by internet and social media but it's nothing compared to what's coming for us. Maybe society will collapse due to social or environmental concerns before we get to that point though

[Anonymous No.6206611]

>>6206279
>but it WILL make art way less valuable
I've heard this same line before when everyone said e-books would put places like barnes n noble completely out of business, meanwhile the opposite happened. Same could be said with 3D printing and figure/toys, did nothing but increase prices. This is nothing more than FUD

>the demand for artists will definitely plummet. Just give it 5-10 years
Just two more weeks bro, pic rel. And before you think thats an old projection it was recently updated a month ago

> and make money by feeding your subs shitty anime feet, you'd better reconsider
These people weren't making any good money anyways but ok

[Anonymous No.6206616]

>>6206581
Whats on the bottom left, anon?

[Anonymous No.6206620]

>>6206616
No idea, that wasn't included in my prompt at all

[Anonymous No.6206628]

>>6206620
>looks like a blurred out artist signature
Very Interesting!

[Anonymous No.6206630]

>>6206620
>>6206628
>>6185752

[Anonymous No.6206638]

>>6206628
The so called "AI" just googled the words in the prompt and blurs the pics it gets together. Not much more advanced than animorph covers.

[Anonymous No.6206647]

>>6181513
Next ai will learn to code and improve itself and humanity will just maintain, and milk it for semen

[Anonymous No.6206680]

How is ai with simple line art, like related?
Every ""impressive"" generated image I've seen over uses Vaseline shading and coloring to hide atrocious perspective, proportions and linework. It never does simplistic beauty.

[Anonymous No.6206722]

>>6206680
>Every ""impressive"" generated image I've seen over uses Vaseline shading and coloring to hide atrocious perspective, proportions and linework. It never does simplistic beauty.
and most are retouched to make them look better than they are plus AI not being able to do anything that isnt generic like you said
ai cant do art it cant draw, it just photobashes random shit

[Anonymous No.6206730]

>>6206722
Yeah, it's obvious it can't draw anything and everything it creates is stolen images mashed together because that's how STEMtards think the human brain works.
I honestly can't tell if the people praising these especially
>>6206110
>>6202883
>>6185559
>>6185563
are blind or just taking the piss?
They're utter garbage landscape images.

[Anonymous No.6206763]

>>6206730
theyre AI FUDers that spam this board to the point of getting their threads deleted. Schizos that don't draw but have white knuckles when they see anyone making art so they have to try to bring everyone down. Yesterday it was asian genes, talent threads, ligameme, today its AI threads

[Anonymous No.6206784]

>>6181513
Riot splash artists on suicide watch
https://twitter.com/DeivCalviz/status/1556559757523259393

[Anonymous No.6206802]

yeah i admit, ai art looks like a fever dream garbage now
but, but it's like only 5 years old (manga generator 2017)
wait till the baby's high school prom

[Anonymous No.6206810]

>>6206802
It will never be good. ai as a whole is a dumb meme because it's incapable of creating anything itself, everything it "creates" whether it be code or drawings is stolen bits and pieces of real people's work poorly stitched together.
There is zero intelligence in artificial "intelligence" because it doesn't learn shit, they should call it "artificial cargo cult"

[Anonymous No.6206820]

>>6206802
Just. two. more ____

[Anonymous No.6206832]

>>6206820
centuries bro, then ai will reign supreme

[Anonymous No.6206981]

>>6185752
>dal-e undermines the work of illustrators who shared their work online and never asked to be included in a proprietary learning model

go tell them that until they play the card of "you accepted the terms of agreement of (random site) wich stated how your data is collected so it's on you if you didn't ream 'em".

either way, you'll get fucked lol

[Anonymous No.6206995]

>>6206802
>but it's like only 5 years old
oh my sweet summer child, the calculus behind this shit has existed for decades all that has changed is just more dedicated computing power for bigger database nothing more

[Anonymous No.6207014]

any 2ch bro that can tell how the japanese art comunity is reacting to AI? since visual art is very important in their culture and economy i'd like to know how they perceive it.

[Anonymous No.6207102]

>>6201997
>>artists and 'intellectuals' cheer for the automation of the jobs of the working class white male
What artists where cheering that shit on?? Most artists are working class level financially

[Anonymous No.6207119]

>>6206981
ToCs aren't legally binding

[Anonymous No.6207142]

>>6206110
Wow this one is actually pretty good, I could totally see this scrolling through twitter and think it's human made.

Of course once I actually zoom in and see the finer details, it's obvious it isn't human made.

[Anonymous No.6207145]

Its photobashing isnt even that well done, I know i have the original somewhere on my PC but this is largely just two artists work meshed together, how tf is this legal?

[Anonymous No.6207151]

I think this is the bulk of the original right here

[Anonymous No.6207155]

>>6207151
Please tell me this one is human made. Or I'm actually quitting drawing forever.

[Anonymous No.6207156]

>>6207155
It is human made anon, its made by an artist named Mike Franchina

[Anonymous No.6207208]

I don't think Ai will ever be able to create real art.

For example, what if you wanted to draw a cool Mecha. While drawing it, you'd have to think about the story behind that Mecha, shape design, why it was build and by who, with what technologies, etc etc
You could use AI to help visualize things you find difficult, essentially using it as Reference images on steroids, or for photobashing, it might be really useful for concept art or brainstorming ideas, but that's it.
At the moment AI is the equivalent of an highly trained monkey that is able to mix images together based on a request, it can't understand what anything means, and that's just for a single picture, what about comics, or animation. It will never be able to write a deep story about the meanimg of life, human nature, love, emotions, etc, and the moment it will be able to, it'll probably be sentient, and it's ability to make art will be the last of our problems.

[Anonymous No.6207264]

>>6207208
But I'm not a poet fag, I just want to draw pretty ladies, robots and aliens, at most I would make art about overcoming depression or some shit, idk.

[Anonymous No.6207287]

>>6207208
>I don't think Ai will ever be able to create real art.
>I dont think Mcdonalds will ever be able to create real burgers
You're underestimating this, The average person doesnt give a shit about the "artistic" value of a piece so long as it looks relatively good and they can get it quick/cheap. Even more so for corporations

[Anonymous No.6207331]

>>6207287
• That's not true, often the most popular and well received pieces of art are also the ones with more "artistic value". There are exceptions of course.
• Idk how much anyone would like a generic picture of a generic Mecha that was made by combining different pictures of other mechas. Would mecha enjoyers find it appealing? Isn't the point of drawing a mecha also a way to put your imagination into paper? Imagining how someone would pilot it, why they would pilot, why it's piloting it, why is that mecha like that, Is it a military mecha, etc, and that's also what mecha enjoyers like about a mecha picture/design. And that's something that only an artist can give. AIs can't imagine.
• Still, the point it that AI can't create something unique and with meaning behind it. It can create a cool looking image at best, that's not the point of art, and I still believe AI will simply be used as a tool by concept artist.
• McDonald's didn't make other burger restaurant close, it just made something different for different needs.

[Anonymous No.6207387]

>>6207156
>>6206630
>>6206628
>>6202179
>>6185752
fuck it white pilled again
i will not slave in grey goo shit

[Anonymous No.6207400]

>>6207331
!dream "A mecha combined out of other mecha, baking bread with his grandma in her cottagecore kitchem, volumetric lighting, emotional, nostalgia, octane renderer, cinematography, trending on artstation"

[Anonymous No.6207570]

>>6206995
>uh akshuly first neural network was invented in the 50's duh i'm so smart

[Anonymous No.6207577]

RIP Concept art/graphic design. Gonna turn into mostly ai images with a handful of artists to correct the images getting paid even worse than now

[Anonymous No.6207631]

AI doesn't worry me one bit
"why?" you might ask
because I am a cunnychad, and the AI-niggers FEAR the domain of little girls, your generic hyperrealistic garbage that copies artstyles from 1800s impressionist painters and your artstation Ruan Jias shiver at the presence of lolis, for they are too afraid to capture their perfection on the canvas

[Anonymous No.6207642]

>>6207631
im so sorry of your parents and family. i pray that you will see the errors of your ways and find salvation.

[Anonymous No.6207650]

>>6207642
Good luck ever making a profitable career from art when your generic shit is taken over by AI pumping the exact same shit you do.
DeviantArt furry porn and extreme fetishist artists are unironically at a better position than you'll ever be. We are all gonna make it, but not you.

[Anonymous No.6207701]

>>6206981
They literally use pics with watermarks from stock sites that say it's prohibited to datamine their content. Also claiming ownership and encouraging distribution and commercial use of any generated content, even characters from big IPs like mario. I can't wrap my head around the fact that nobody questioned its legal grounds besides news outlets who are pointing this out.

[Anonymous No.6207706]

>>6207631
We really were the last of us...Whether we like it or not, Sooner or later AI comes for us all.

[Anonymous No.6207707]

>>6207156
You can just tell the AI to draw in artists' styles too, after all the datamined every portfolio in the web

[Anonymous No.6207743]

>>6181513

[Anonymous No.6207876]

I wonder if you all realize the amount of furry, bronie, gay porn this could make. Everyone gets to make their on fetishes true.
We are finished. The internet will be flooded and we opened the gates ourselves.

[Anonymous No.6207923]

From the AI art I've seen posted on /ic/ up till now, I always thought we were still decades away from this shit being adoptable by the mainstream. Dall-E sucks at faces and drawings and is basically just a glorified photobashing software with generic painting filters. But then I recently had a youtube video recommended to me that showed Dall-E2 and Midjourney creations and what the fuck is this? Why does it look like this technology went from 0 to 100 in like a couple of months? Midjourney can right now replace any concept art or illustration jobs outside of very specific artstyles. It can fucking iterate on its thumbnails, it can prioritize elements, it can be directed better than most human artists. We are unironically fucked.

[Anonymous No.6208004]

>>6207743
Why do antisemitics still shill hitler? He singlehandedly caused a major shift in favor of jews because of his retarded decisions.

[Anonymous No.6208114]

>>6207145
>>6207151
Good catch. I expect massive lawsuits in the coming future. I know their defense will be that it's entirely generate from a neural network, "just like an artist's brain", but that's the problem, this is NOT like an artist's brain, an artist's brain can't make so many pieces of art in 30 seconds, it's just not equivalent, and this "robot artist" is not profiting for itself, it's profiting for a company. I think beside the pedobros, bronniebros and furrybros forcing devs to neuter their own AI, there will be the legal angle to this. There's a shitstorm coming and it was all completely avoidable, all these aphantastic devs had to do is talk to the artists they datamined and include them in the profits.

[Anonymous No.6208175]

>>6201996
>and draw because it's fun
If you've not been drawing for fun from day 1, you've been doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.6208188]

>>6206810
as much as i hate A.I art, and im probs the biggest doomer on here, you are wrong. What is art but approximations of other works? which are also approximations of real life itself?
>it's incapable of creating anything itself
you know this is a lie. the main selling point of it is to create unique images based off wild prompts. It's definitely creating original works, no doubt about it

>There is zero intelligence in artificial "intelligence" because it doesn't learn shit
as much as i want to accept this, unfortuantley thats wrong as well. OBV A.I isnt perfect, but looking how technology has EXPONENTIALLY improved this past decade alone, give it atleast 5 years until you start seeing artists riot.

[Anonymous No.6208216]

>>6208114
I believe the tipping point will be Japan's reaction to this when AI goes mainstream and becomes good enough to identically plagiarize every artist there. It is only a matter of time until someone starts profitting of all the millions of pixiv accounts by sending prompts like "___ drawn by asanagi". Their collective response to this, be it anger or acceptance, will either flip these AI projects upside down financially or doom us all at once.

The "royalties" angle is a trap for every artist, too. Eventually AI generated art will amount for more than human made ones, so the AI will begin copying from its own derivative works instead of the original they plagiarized, giving the share of profits to the prompt maker of that image instead of the real artist.

Imo we should look for ways to integrate our art to blockchain models immediately. If we made this sooner none of these AIs would simply need to be plugged to a browser to automatically mass scrap every picture in the internet.

[Anonymous No.6208226]

>>6208216
>ways to integrate our art to blockchain models immediately
Never heard this take, sounds interesting, but maybe it's too late. Can you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.6208275]

>>6208226
These AIs can only scrape data because Google and every other web2 browsers as a whole create a giant alleway to any sort of datamining to the content in the web. In fact, they're primed towards ease of datamining above all else so profits can be maximized.

But with the feature of Blockchain and the decentralized goals for Web3, they can be a partial, if not whole, solution to this. Imagine if AIs couldn't simply have access to billions of pictures from the start, and the tech giants had to painstakingly train it one by one image. And imagine if every one of these images required to disable any suspicious third party applications before opening them, so that no datamining happens.

Have you heard of SBTs? They stand for soul bound tokens. They are being designed to be like your irl documents and achievements but eternized in the blockchain, given to you by officialized instituitions. Imagine if you only allowed your content to be seen by people without SBTs of IT degrees lol. Kemono party won't survive the future since Patreon users might limit their content to be seen onlyor people with a donor SBT, and ways to save the image will grow exponentially difficult as it's not hosted on the servers of some site but on the blockchain/content creator's computer itself. It can also be used to block all bots without a verified human SBT from entering virtual spaces like competitive games and such.

[Anonymous No.6208360]

>>6208275
Expanding more multiplayer games as an anecdote, bots do not only angers the gaymers but the game industry itself. And OpenAI recently made a bot in Minecraft that can speedrun all the way into crafting a diamond pickaxe within 20 minutes, while also being able to do "parkour" and kill mobs proficiently. One can only guess what will happen to all those PVP minecraft servers once the model goes outside the Silicon Valley's computer farms and ends up as an opensource code in a zoomer's hand. FPS games already have ways to check for aimbots, like anticheat, but they're designed to act against obvious cheats, so at this stage all competitive entertainment would be ruined were something like AI to leak into it. That's why I believe they'll be the first to make use of these new measures when the threat appears, otherwise the damage done to these communities would be fatal

[Anonymous No.6208369]

I think this will accelerate UBI in a lot of countries. Once music AI can do what Stable Diffusion is doing to painting, The public will start to care. Nobody really cares about artists. Ask a stranger to name 10 living artists. Then ask them to name 10 living singers. At best you'll get "Banksy! ...uhh... ... " That's all, that's the only artist normies know.

!EarwormAI "A 4 minute duet about artists on the internet arguing about art on the internet, Freddy Mercury, Adele, rock ballad, emotional, grammy award winning, trending on spotify" -n 4

[Anonymous No.6208390]

>>6208275
That will take me some reading to fully grasp, but I think Mastodon kind of does this? Some things I can find only on Mastodon/Pawoo. Not that tech savvy though, sounds interesting though, the art is digital, there ought to be a digital solution.

[Anonymous No.6208399]

Its fucking over dammit but I will enjoy when codemonkeys start to get replaced by ai too, fuck theeeeeeem

[Anonymous No.6208406]

>>6208390
You got it I think. Mastodon is made in java though so it's not that much efficient. Just like in the Cold War, I believe we'll see a digital technological race on both sides starting when these AI models become good enough to disrupt digital spaces. GDP-3 made up 10% of /pol/ posts in one day and people only knew that weeks later when the youtuber revealed it. Just imagine what it can do to a big social media lmao

[Anonymous No.6208412]

>>6208369
>!EarwormAI "A 4 minute duet about artists on the internet arguing about art on the internet, Freddy Mercury, Adele, rock ballad, emotional, grammy award winning, trending on spotify" -n 4
Unironically the music industry is the only who can kill this shit, itd be Napster 2.0

[Anonymous No.6208419]

>>6181513
shitheads already selling a.i art as if they made it themselves

anyone got plan B?

[Anonymous No.6208428]

>>6208412
They'll use it too, why hire musicians and writers for the music of Jiggy willy's next album when AI does it all?

[Anonymous No.6208462]

>>6182561
it's him
the a.i schizo

[Anonymous No.6208468]

>>6202046
Is this
Craiyon?

[Anonymous No.6208470]

>>6208468
Dall-E 2. Craiyon is running in hamster wheels fueled by ad revenue as of now

[Anonymous No.6208477]

>>6202003
>that would be akin to a video game to them, and artists hate video games.

Not true, everything else is spot on tho.

[Anonymous No.6208481]

>>6208470
Craiyon doesn't even need to run as a site
It's been ported to Colab

[Anonymous No.6208482]

it's crazy to me how many people were caught off-guard by developments in AI and saw the writing on the wall only this year, and worse yet, how many people, especially professionals, are still desperately trying to ignore or rationalize away the problems we're facing, not just in terms of illustration ceasing to be a viable career path, but on a civilizational level.

[Anonymous No.6208486]

>>6181513

Yo, is shit like DALL-E allowed to draw borderline illegal porn? or weird shit like Scat Furry Pr0n.

I'm asking because I only saw SFW art done by A.I

[Anonymous No.6208495]

>>6208486
friend, people are constantly training new algorithms and improving on the last generation. it's not like openAI has a patent on the technology or anything, it'll be the wild west of algorithmic generation in a few years, and you can bet your ass there's going to be people who train models specifically optimized for generating various kinds of porn.

[Anonymous No.6208502]

>>6208482
Watched a few YT vids on it and guys like Rossdraws made me seethe with "Oh its just an artist tool and that it won't effect employment" as if any of these top 1 percent fuckers were ever at threat. It's the 99 percent of other artists who will get shafted by this shit. We're gonna become as relevant as fuckin Shoe Cobblers

[Anonymous No.6208506]

>>6208495
I wonder how government will approach this

[Anonymous No.6208507]

>>6208495
>it'll be the wild west of algorithmic generation in a few years, and you can bet your ass there's going to be people who train models specifically optimized for generating various kinds of porn.

Thanks for the answer friend, and now I'm really curious about how the governments will crackdown on A.I generating realistic art with ilegal themes.

[Anonymous No.6208509]

>>6208502
The 1% artists will be those with friends in the art exposition money launding scheme, just as always.

[Anonymous No.6208511]

>>6208507
NTA but, AI generation/Deep fakes will be the end of humanity as we know it. In 10-15 years I could easily see people paying a subscription to a deep fake program that lets them bang a sex doll that looks and sound like any celeb or porn star they want (of course these images will be licensed cause the jews need their cut), The idea of Death/dying itself will mean nothing when you can pay some company thats mapped out someones neural network and can have you talk to them even long after they die. Every media will have AI involved in some way shape or form or be 100 percent created by it. Its digusting, to me this whole thing seems like an affront to humanity

[Anonymous No.6208513]

>>6208502
Lmao that guy literally added a blushes and light reflections to the character image and then said "Yeah chill it's not like someone can ask the AI to I'mprove those small tidbits." The guy could be misinformed but the comments were straight up deluded. Either way, this is a time where tracing and photobashing will rule

[Anonymous No.6208514]

>>6208188
>What is art but approximations of other works?
Human creativity and an expression of the human condition
>which are also approximations of real life itself?
Something an algorithm doesn't experience
>you know this is a lie.
It isn't, photobashing other people's work isn't creating anything, put the ai in a vacuum and it doesn't create anything because it relies 100% on stealing human works.
>thats wrong as well.
No it isn't, because there's much more to intelligence than mimicking other things, which is all ai algorithms can achieve.

[Anonymous No.6208515]

>>6208511
>Its digusting, to me this whole thing seems like an affront to humanity

I like how you predict the future, it sounds plausible, and like those old distopian novels...

We're fucked, aren't we? Humanity as a whole.

Fascinating stuff, I hope that A.I is the great filter, and it kill us all, thanks anons, peace out.

[Anonymous No.6208516]

>>6208188
>What is art but approximations of other works?
Art can only be humans, Fuck those soulless automatons

[Anonymous No.6208527]

>>6208511
>die in a car crash
>tesla neuralink chip backs up your neural network in the cloud storage just a few seconds before the impact
>export your memories and patterns of thought to a robot
>you're you again, just another day

[Anonymous No.6208534]

>>6208527
I'll never understand people who believe things like that, we don't know the first thing about the human brain or even why dreaming happens or how it works, but retards think you can digitize a human within the next 50 years.

[Anonymous No.6208535]

>>6208527
>Go to quit job
>Thats fine anon, but the contract says we can use this neural copy of you going forward to handle customer service calls and for other services without any payment to you
>Live your life while a copy of you continues to wage slave
>Forever

[Anonymous No.6208536]

if I were rich I'd open "art houses" where an artist draws live in front of an audience. no internet, no recording devices, no sketching, and the artwork is incinerated at the end of the show.

pure unadulterated expression

[Anonymous No.6208540]

>>6208534
Anon wtf do you think the internet is doing? You really think it endgame is fuckin ads? Your social media presence from how you type to the group you follow, to the stimuli you do and dont react to is all being mapped out NOW, not 50 years out, right now. It's not gonna be some cool ghost in the shell future its just gonna be your personality boiled down to some shitty script on some pajeets server

[Anonymous No.6208542]

>>6208516
Sorry ludditechud but everyone is an artist now. The democratization of art will make the world better for amputees and blind folks. I'm on the right side of history and you know it

[Anonymous No.6208543]

>>6208535
recommending a shortstory that does some really cool stuff with this idea
>https://qntm.org/mmacevedo

[Anonymous No.6208551]

>>6208542
>The democratization of art
>Art
Someone punching in a bunch of prompts into a program isnt making the art you retard, the AI program is. There's no democratization of art, this is simply the replacement of the human factor in the art itself

[Anonymous No.6208550]

>>6208540
NTA but yeah lol I never understood why someone would post on facebook or any social media ever. There's enough content there to recreate a world with AIs fed with those profiles. Humans are too stupid to not end themselves over quick profits.

I'm an atheist so I don't believe in afterlife, only in constant cycles where matter and energy eventually get converted into living organisms again. I wish when I died I would stay dead forever instead of having the possibility of experiencing this tragicomic scenario all over again

[Anonymous No.6208553]

>>6208543
I'm going to read it thanks for humouring me anon

[Anonymous No.6208570]

First the AI came for the writers.
I did not speak out for I was not a writer.
Then the AI came for the artists.
I did not speak out for I was not an artist.
Then the AI came for the musicians.
I did not speak out for I was not a musician.
Then the AI came for the coders.
I did not speak out for I was not a coder.
Then the AI came for the plumbers.
And there was no one left to speak for me.

Fuck AI

[Anonymous No.6208580]

>>6208540
I have zero online presence, cope.

[Anonymous No.6208585]

>>6208580
Why not, i thought you said the tech was at least 50 years out?

[Anonymous No.6208588]

>>6208570
Honestly I dont even understand how the economy will function in a few years when everything can be done with ai

[Anonymous No.6208591]

>>6208588
The schitzo take would be that they won't have most of us around

[Anonymous No.6208598]

>>6208585
Because I'm not a normalfaggot like you?
Also creating a chatbot that posts like you isn't the same as recreating someone digitally you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.6208601]

>>6208598
>Also creating a chatbot that posts like you isn't the same as recreating someone digitally you brainlet
You're underestimating how fast these algorithms learn and how much money and support are behind these things. I give it less than 5 years before theyll be almost indistinguishable from someone elses online pattern

[Anonymous No.6208608]

>>6208601
>j-just 2 more weeks bro
Retards like you have been saying the same for decades. Still no where close to passing the Turing test and you can't even self drive a car without wrapping it around a tree every 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.6208621]

>>6208588
The realistic answer is that, once this becomes a big enough issue, politicians are going to win elections by promising us to tax the robot and get us free gibs.
We're going to live in a UBI post-scarcity '"utopia", except it'll be complete shit since there won't be any way for people to give their lives meaning. AI can do your job better than you, a chatbot can be a better friend and partner than you. Most people will just be a burden to each other, they'll live like useless parasites and it'll make them feel awful - unless they're sociopaths, in which case they'll love the brave new world.

[Anonymous No.6208626]

>>6208621
>We're going to live in a UBI post-scarcity '"utopia"
Why do people think this? with the way climate change/pollution is going, why would anyone on top of social ladder want the rest on the bottom to stick around?

[Anonymous No.6208644]

>>6208626
global population is already declining. you're probably a bit younger and have been propagandized sufficiently by the education system to think that the climate apocalypse is just around the corner and we all have to drop everything RIGHT NOW or it'll all be too late, but while global warming and pollution are serious issues for sure, water scarcity and food shortages are way overhyped as far as realistic problems we'll have to face in the next decades go. A more realistic threat would be the fact that we're getting way too good at genetic engineering and all it will take for humanity to all but wipe itself out is one genuine super virus escaping from a military lab.

[Anonymous No.6208649]

>>6208527
>you're you again, just another day

You're not really you, you died, and a robotic clone is acting as you from now on.

[Anonymous No.6208653]

>>6208570
>Then the AI came for the coders.

The irony of being an AI coder LMAO

[Anonymous No.6208656]

>>6208621
Albeit physical robots have 10x cost and development limitations, virtual reality will be their stronghold in no time. People already spend most of their free time in the internet. Perfect the system a little more and everyone will self indulge in their own little world with AI friends, tutors, wifes, parents. It will be so addictive that no one will ever feel rejected or challenged again. Imagine Plato's cave but the cavern becomes so big it covers the entire skies and you are to never again see even a creak of light coming from outside.

[Anonymous No.6208661]

>>6208649
....That was the point, but your copy will just look back and see it that way

[Anonymous No.6208665]

>>6208621
>There won't be any way for people to give their lives meaning.

Anon, that's your problem, you unironically believe in "Meaning" and other lies like that.

There's no such things as meaning, dream jobs, love, morals, ethics, laws, Gods, etc

They're necessary lies, but they're still lies, AI will "unplug" normies like you, and that's for the bette... Or maybe not.

[Anonymous No.6208670]

>>6208656
>Imagine Plato's cave but the cavern becomes so big it covers the entire skies and you are to never again see even a creak of light coming from outside.
One of the most horrifying lines ive ever read

[Anonymous No.6208673]

>>6208665
>AI will "unplug" normies like you, and that's for the
I'm afraid not, the best AIs will be owned by the biggest companies who hoarded decades of resources for that moment like Google. They aim working to put the own ethics and moralities in the AI (they admitted that "biased images" was the very reason why their own Dall-E isn't out by now) so normies will just be even more indocrinated as always

[Anonymous No.6208676]

>>6208114
Even in a worst(best?) case scenario they could pay for art data. It would take longer, but the result wouldn't change.

[Anonymous No.6208772]

If my illustration dream is dead, what can I pivot to? I have been considering UX design recently, will AI fuck that dream up?

[Anonymous No.6208973]

>THE AI ISN'T STEALING PEOPLES ART. THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, THEY ARE LUDDITES!
>but i also don't understand it either
Lmao @ this midjourney "artist".

[Anonymous No.6209002]

>>6208973
I don't see why you would denigrate that ledditor anon, he has the humility to admit he doesn't know how this works or the actual legal ramifications (which to my knowledge haven't been fully tested yet).
I'd commend him just for that.

[Anonymous No.6209310]

>>6208468
It's Stable Diffusion.

[Anonymous No.6209371]

Made with MidJourney.

[Anonymous No.6209373]

It's stupid easy.

[Anonymous No.6209374]

I feel nothing making it.

[Anonymous No.6209377]

I will never be this creative.

[Anonymous No.6209381]

I "MADE" this.

[Anonymous No.6209386]

It's like if Filet Mignon was a TV dinner and everyone says they can't taste the difference.

[Anonymous No.6209412]

>>6209381
The worst that there are people who unironically say that. They're calling themselves prompt creators

[Anonymous No.6209425]

Yeah right, I'm still waiting for someone stupid enough to generate the mouse. Shit's going to go down quicker than you can spell common use

[Anonymous No.6209470]

>>6209412
Prompt ENGINEERS! maybe they'll adopt "Prompt Imagineers" to sound more arty.
>>6209425
Hundreds of people prompting mr mouse.

[Anonymous No.6209477]

>>6209470
I can't be the only one finding AI "art" terrifying to look at. That image and others like it are pure nightmare fuel in the deepest depth of the uncanny valley. I'm already dreading the day when no-draws flood every place on the net with this shit. This stuff should be censored like gore and scat, not publicly encouraged

[Anonymous No.6209677]

>>6208514
put a human in a vacuum and it doesn't create anything

[Anonymous No.6209783]

>>6209677
Horse shit.
If you can't create anything in your mind without outside influence then you're unironically an npc

[Anonymous No.6209786]

>>6209783
Prove you are not an NPC then. Create something completely novel with no outside influence and present it to us.

[Anonymous No.6209806]

>>6209786
Go to /sag/ for plenty of examples, but you'll just move the goalposts with semantics
>uhh acshully there would be no drawing tools in a void!1!1!
because you're a full of shit materialist.

[Anonymous No.6209948]

>>6209806
You are an NPC by your definition.
>go to /sag/
A bunch of teenagers who watched an Tool music video. cool. and maybe played Cruelty Squad?

[Anonymous No.6209964]

>>6201715
>bush
I kneel
The AI fucking won

[Anonymous No.6211043]

>>6209948
>You are an NPC by your definition
no he isn't, retarded ai shill

[Anonymous No.6211078]

you win, fags, I've been officially blackpilled