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The Great Debate.

Who is the better teacher and why?

>> No.6180466
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6180466

>>6180459
Krenz >>>> Vippu > Hampton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proko

>> No.6180471

>>6180459
this is the same as comparing michelangelo to gabe

>> No.6180472

>>6180466
is it worth to watch krenz videos if I downloaded the notes from here?

>> No.6180475

>>6180466
>Krenz
reminder that zero (0) anons have improved since the shill campaign started in nov 2021

>> No.6180485
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>>6180475
>>6161417
Also some people left the asg thread once they got good.

>> No.6180493

>>6180485
Is that image supposed to be good? The chest area on the left is clearly wrong and /beg/ level.

>> No.6180503

>>6180493
pyw :)

>> No.6180508

>>6180493
And this is why good artists leave /ic/. 90% of /ic/ is this kind of idiot beg crab.

>> No.6180511

>>6180508
t. literal idiot
You are genuine garbage at shading. Work on your fundamentals.

>> No.6180513

>>6180466
Why does it feel like krenz is getting shilled by a certain group on ic

>> No.6180514

>>6180513
no shilling, just natural selection. People got good from his videos more than anything else, so of course he's shared more often :)

>> No.6180516

>>6180514
Back to your discord, idiot.

>> No.6180521
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Krenzbros we keep winning

>> No.6180526

>>6180511
You're just proving my point :), faggot crab.

>> No.6180529

>>6180475
same could be said for vilppu, huston and whoever else you retards shill here

>> No.6180530

>>6180529
Vilppu is amazing you ngmi wimp

>> No.6180533

>>6180530
pyw

>> No.6180536

>>6180526
You don't have a point, idiot. You're just a moron from the discord and you haven't made any progress. You're worthless trash.

>> No.6180537

>>6180529
Vilpuu is one of the most respected art teachers ever and there are countless highly qualified professionals that cite his lectures as a huge influence on their careers.

You're an embarrassing idiot.

>> No.6180543

>>6180537
i know you rode the shortbus to school and still do but >>6180475 i replied to is referring to "ANONS" retard
notice how i put it in caps and in quotes in case you got lost again
now pyw

>> No.6180545

>Vilppu?
literally who?

>> No.6180563

>>6180536
Discord what? Take your meds, cancer that's ruining /ic/.

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>>6180466
where do i find videos/courses from this fellow?

>> No.6180598

>>6180459
Why would you limit yourself to only one resource?

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>>6180598

>only one resource
>analyze paralyze

>> No.6180611

>>6180607
such chart
much science

>> No.6180646

>>6180459
I want to see them draw cute Lolis

>> No.6180661

I can’t decide between Krenz and Vilppu, help me bros

>> No.6180667

>>6180598
Too many resources on the same subject will only slow you down. It's one of the reason permabegs keep being permabegs, they become hoarders not knowing where to start to learn because they have too many choices.

>> No.6180669

>>6180661
You should use both. They are compatible. Much like Peter Han + Krenz.

But drawabox + Krenz is a bad combo. Krenz + Loomis or Krenz + Hampton is also a good one.

>> No.6180714

>>6180669
Thanks anon

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>>6180714
Krenz recommends Hampton

>> No.6180760

>>6180669
>shilling krenz this hard
you are one desperate little idiot

>> No.6180772

>>6180760
>reccomending good resources is bad!

>> No.6180778

>>6180772
you've made no progress

>> No.6180784

>>6180760
I'm more of a Peter Han shill rather than Krenz. It's just that Krenz provided perspective course that is easier to follow than Scott Robertson and more complete than perspective made easy.

What the hell is wrong with you going around calling people shill

>> No.6180786

>>6180784
>I'm more of a Peter Han shill rather than Krenz. It's just that Krenz provided perspective course that is easier to follow than Scott Robertson and more complete than perspective made easy.
Or you could have just read D'Amelio's Perspective Drawing Handbook followed by Watson's Creative Perspective, which are both far better.

But keep getting memed by /ic/, shill.

>> No.6180806

>>6180786
Okay. I'm gonna admit that the reason I used Krenz instead of those books were because Krenz used Yotsubato! as his main resource teaching perspective

>> No.6180860

>>6180472
>I downloaded the notes from here?
care to post them?

>> No.6180866

>>6180786
You dont even follow D'Amelio, no one ever follows any course they recommend, they just want to be "that guy" that tells people things they know, you don't even care, you're just annoying.

>> No.6180876

>>6180866
No need to project your insecurities, idiot.

>> No.6180937

>>6180866
you'd be surprised at how much some people have done, anon. We're not all lazy like you

>> No.6180965

>>6180876
>>6180937
pyw

>> No.6180980

>>6180965
you do know the "pyw" bit only works if you yourself post your work or even have any work to post, otherwise even if any of the other anons are beg, you still will look like a bitch cuz you dont post shit

>> No.6180984

>>6180980
That's not how it works newfag but it's noted you're a pussy that doesn't post work when talking shit.

>> No.6181033

>>6180965
lol you're the one who finds it impossible to believe anyone has worked through a 96 pg basic perspective book.

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if you have to ask this then you're guaranteed ngmi
might as well be asking if Jazza is better than Vilppu

>> No.6181163

>>6180459
I am a Vilppu fanboy, but at the end of the day I gotta admit that nothing made me improve more than Proko's figure drawing and anatomy course and I doubt anyone will make any better content any time soon. It just really shits on everything else, it's not even close.

>> No.6181201

>>6181163
Explain why

>> No.6181375

>>6181163
>figure drawing
not the best figure courses imo
>anatomy course
As much as I don't like Proko, I need to admit, his anatomy course is the best, the 3d models are the best and all the information pfff.

>> No.6181379

>>6181163
His figure drawing course is a plagiarized and watered-down Vilppu course, but there's nothing better than his anatomy course

>> No.6181381

>>6181375
>anatomy course is the best,
Isn't it's just some russian average courses, just translated on English?

>> No.6181392

>>6181381
HELL NO LOL

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>>6181043

>> No.6181403

>>6181381
It's based on bammes, but with high production value (3d models, demonstrations, cliffnotes pdfs, etc.) The 3d models might be the best part, though in my experience 3d models aren't as good as a physical reproduction of a bone

>> No.6182091

>>6180984
No, that was exactly how it works you blithering idiot. You don't get to say "pyw" unless you've posted your own work, and if you still try saying "pyw" anyway, it just makes you look more idiotic than you already are.

>> No.6182093

>>6180459
I think proko will break his spine in a fair fight, tho if Vilppu got his bone it might be a draw.

>> No.6182094

>>6180459
If it is a knife fight tho...

>> No.6182103

>>6182094
Know what, i would bet at Proko im pretty sure he is unhinged psycho underneath all his stuff.

>> No.6182106

>>6180459
What about Bob Ross vs this 2?would he beat them both up in his prime? Like he did with the Devil.

>> No.6183321

So most of /ic/ agrees Proko is the best way to learn anatomy?

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>>6183321
To save on price: Copy Bridgman Twice!

>> No.6184287

>>6180459
Who is better, Hampton or Vilppu?

>> No.6184310

Who will teach me how to draw cute lolis?

>> No.6186561

>>6184310
retard

>> No.6186573

>>6184287
Hampton IMO

>> No.6186891

is vilppu studio drawing manual a good place to start

>> No.6186892

If you need an art "teacher" you are NGMI.

>> No.6188439

>>6186892
t. brainlet

>> No.6188450

>>6180459
Vilppu, hands down. No contest.

>> No.6188451

>>6188450
Why?

>> No.6188459

>>6188451
He's old and therefore wiser