/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6179347]

Today's Beg Challenge: Draw a coffee mug and a bagel.

If you are a /beginner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

Sticky:

Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- The Art and Science of Drawing
- Perspective Drawing Handbook
- Figure - Design and invention
- Pen and Ink
- The Natural Way To Draw

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uxMdokX68

REMINDER TO IGNORE POSTS VIOLATING RULE 1
"All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork."
(ex art dumps, posts without text, posters that don't ask questions or seek help)

Previous thread: >>6175968

[Anonymous No.6179373]

first

[Anonymous No.6179401]

Sushi dragon

[Anonymous No.6179569]

>>6179373
third

[Anonymous No.6179571]

hello i am new. thinking of making a manga some day as my friends tell me I'm very good, any criticism greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.6179635]

>>6179347
How do i unfuck this

[Anonymous No.6179637]

>>6179571
helo Yoshihiro Togashi I didn't know you browse 4chan and much less that you were just starting to draw. fuck off retard you are not smart nor funny

[Anonymous No.6179681]

>>6179571
needs more loomis

[Anonymous No.6179698]

>>6179637
Your post is funny tho I smiled

[Anonymous No.6179789]

>>6179569
this is kind of my scare sometimes. that when I think what I did is somewhat cool, but it absolutely horrible

[Anonymous No.6179795]

>>6179347
>bagel
Nice try Moses Shekelbergawitz

[Anonymous No.6179797]

>>6179373
>>6179569
My brother wtf are you trying to achieve with this

[Anonymous No.6179800]

>>6179571
Try posting something that's more than a lazy scribble

[Anonymous No.6179801]

[Anonymous No.6179805]

>>6179635
What are you going for?

[Anonymous No.6179851]

>>6179637
>>6179698

[Anonymous No.6179864]

>>6179851
Sanchez is not american

[Anonymous No.6179866]

>>6179801
Haha, what do his eggs smell like?
Haha :^)

[Anonymous No.6179868]

Any tips on drawing barren vegetation?

[Anonymous No.6179872]

>>6179866
Is funny for to ask this, if you ever dealt with some large enough reptiles like lizards or snakes you know they have a characteristic smell to them, kinda like fish have their characteristic smell too.

His eggs would smell like that I imagine :3

[Anonymous No.6179906]

[Anonymous No.6179908]

Anyone else has a problem with spheres?
They are very confusing and unintuitive to me.

You guys have any tips or exercises?

[Anonymous No.6179912]

>>6179805
What do you mean? Drawing a woman with decent perspective

[Anonymous No.6179919]

how long does it take wrist to heal

[Anonymous No.6179928]

>>6179872
i like you. `w`
great connection, i remember the reptile house at my local zoo are know exactly what you mean. very cool.

[Anonymous No.6179964]

[Anonymous No.6179969]

>>6179906

[Anonymous No.6179987]

>>6179912
How can i do to not lose the initial underdrawing position? what do i practice to get better at anatomy on perspective?

[Anonymous No.6179991]

>>6179987
Don't line it just erase junk

[Anonymous No.6180002]

>>6179987
>what do i practice to get better at anatomy on perspective?
You answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.6180008]

>>6179797
no idea

>>6179789
is it that bad

[Anonymous No.6180064]

>>6179908
Any help? Anyone with a similar problem?

[Anonymous No.6180083]

>>6179347
why 2 beg/int threads wtf, bump limits arent even close

[Anonymous No.6180112]

>>6179908
>>6180064
Describe your problems bruh can’t relate but maybe I have the answer

[Anonymous No.6180118]

>>6180083
it's a metastatic growth

[Anonymous No.6180137]

>>6180008
It's a bit cartoony, but that's fine, you're the guy going through morpho right? I like the solidity and exaggeration, keep going.

[Anonymous No.6180138]

some environments I'm working on for a comic

[Anonymous No.6180139]

[Anonymous No.6180143]

>>6180137
There's a difference between cartoony and letting a drawing get away from you.

[Anonymous No.6180146]

>>6180112
Well it's like I said, spheres are very uninuitive to me. I can't seem to "feel their form"

Like for example Loomis teaches to "cut off" the sides of the sphere for drawing heads and it always comes out wonky unless I'm spending like 20-30 minutes breaking my head over the internal structure of the sphere

So far this is what I've been doing following a few guides I saw on AKIHITO YOSHITOMI channel: https://workupload.com/file/V3Zqswct6eW
Can't post pics, my IP is rangebanned from doing that. Careful, the image is big

[Anonymous No.6180149]

>>6180143
I'm curious what you mean.

[Anonymous No.6180151]

>>6180143
that is an opinion, how many famous artists would you have told the same thing before they got to where they are

[Anonymous No.6180153]

>>6180149
it looks pretty alright to me, these anons are just scared of feeling their pps moveat your drawing

[Anonymous No.6180192]

>>6179569
never change- also here is my garbage beg sketch that I'm trying to refine in case someone says pyw because beg threads are criminally hostile

[Anonymous No.6180196]

>>6180192
>>6180143
I don't care how rude you fuckers are as long as you give objective criticism

is it the anatomy, gesture, construction, proportion, face or you can't tell , it just looks ugly?

>>6180153
thanks bro

[Anonymous No.6180201]

>>6180149
Meaning that the drawing started out with fundamental errors in construction, but the artist carried on rather than correcting the errors (or perhaps didn't recognize the errors).
>>6180151
If these hypothetical "famous artists" made the same errors? All of them. The difference is they wouldn't get huffy and defensive if those errors were pointed out to them.
>>6180153
>>>/salt/

[Anonymous No.6180204]

>>6180201
I dunno I understand where you're coming from but I feel like your issue is a matter of distaste and not objective criticism- my reason for this is that your criticism was 'ew yuck' and I assumed you meant you don't like muscles on women or "overly drawn" parts of the figure or something, but to me this has a nice appearance. That's all I meant

[Anonymous No.6180205]

>>6179347
Drew Yusuke while watching yu yu hakusho

[Anonymous No.6180208]

>>6180201
>Meaning that the drawing started out with fundamental errors in construction, but the artist carried on rather than correcting the errors (or perhaps didn't recognize the errors).

please redline it

>>6180201
>The difference is they wouldn't get huffy and defensive if those errors were pointed out to them.
I'm not being defensive. these are my only posts
>>6180008
>>6180196

[Anonymous No.6180213]

>>6180201
But no one pointed out any errors.

[Anonymous No.6180223]

>>6179373
>>6179569
just did a quick edit, the lower body was to aligned with the torso and just made the thumb on the left hand smaller

also, ignore the crabs, as you saw they got no good arguments and most are just NEET permabegs that come here to shitpost and discourage others to feel better about themselves and their shitty lives

[Anonymous No.6180226]

>>6180223
>the lower body was to aligned with the torso
meant NOT* aligned

also if you want to twist the body in a similar pose, twist the torso not the legs, the body moves at the waist along with the head naturally

[Anonymous No.6180229]

>>6180192
the first one brought me so much shame even without criticism that I made some changes and tried to add a light source
have just been doing studies until today (naoki book)
>>6180223
god I want to learn to draw like this

[Anonymous No.6180240]

>>6180229
>god I want to learn to draw like this
just practice, and by practice its focused study not random doodling
problem is people learn and improve at different speeds and improvement happens very gradually so its easy to be discouraged, but dont be, just practice what you want to improve on and want to learn and the rest will come with time

[Anonymous No.6180249]

>>6180229
my tips would be to actually study shading and how light/shadow works, it feels like kind off improvised based o random bits and piece of info you may have read/heard

for readability it got worse, you made her figure so dark its hard to understand what youre looking at, and at a thumbnail level its unreadable completely besides a vague human shape, which isnt bad per se but the bg is light all around her with only the distant bg being dark so it makes no sense for her ot be this dark

along with that you seem to show a light source in the distant bg, but this distant bg is basically just shadow while the foreground is what shows actual light so its a bit of a confusing mess

infact based on the pic overall id give her shadows coming from the distance and the light source coming from the sides and camera

[Anonymous No.6180261]

>>6180240

>>6180249
true, I guess the idea at the moment for me wasn't readability per se, but moreso going for the style of the artist I've been copying in which distant light sources and dimly lit characters are quite common- but it makes sense that from the point of a thumbnail it may as well be nothing because there's no distinction between fg/bg

thanks for the criticism

[Anonymous No.6180265]

>>6180240
I meant to mention that I appreciate the words of wisdom *
>captcha - NSA RPG

[Anonymous No.6180275]

>>6180229
to be honest I'd stick to one light source

[Anonymous No.6180283]

>>6180229
fix the face and finish the lines before going for the rendering
symmetrical comps may work sometimes but often they do not
this looks better>>6180275

[Anonymous No.6180287]

if my wrist hurts will it be fine if i start drawing with my arm

[Anonymous No.6180291]

>>6180223
thanks
I will try to fix the alignment after work

[Anonymous No.6180308]

>>6180083
I made this thread.

I didn't see the first new thread because the idiot who made it didn't cross-link it to the previous thread. He also made it early before the bump limit was reached.

[Anonymous No.6180310]

>>6180275
wow I really like this anon cheers, gunna try to fix up my line work as per >>6180283 and go with this idea, way more readable and feels more balanced

[Anonymous No.6180326]

open to critique

[Anonymous No.6180339]

>>618028

you should be drawing with your arm anyway

[Anonymous No.6180345]

>>6180339
yeah but i wanna know if I have to wait for my wrist to heal or if I can just start drawing with my arm with no problems

[Anonymous No.6180358]

>>6179373
>>6179569
I like this quite a bit despite the fact that I'm into more exaggerated proportions. The feature and construction is very good. Depending on what your goals are, I think you should just keep doing what you're doing. I'm sure you have a lot more experience than me though, but I wanted to give my opinion as someone who is into muscular girls

[Anonymous No.6180361]

>>6180358
gesture* and construction

[Anonymous No.6180373]

>>6179347
Topologists on /beg/; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Mug_and_Torus_morph.gif

[Anonymous No.6180378]

>>6180373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NlqYr6-TpA&t=62s
Got 'em with the 'ol classic.

[Anonymous No.6180384]

>>6180326
The only two things that stand out for me are skeletons hand bones which are inacurate and wierd dress shape/rendering
Can't tell anything specific about dress it's just feels wierd

[Anonymous No.6180396]

>>6180326
I really like it

[Anonymous No.6180412]

>>6180326
thing in the background makes no sense where is your eye supposed to be

[Anonymous No.6180423]

[Anonymous No.6180434]

Can someone explain again how to give shadows using color?

the "If the light is warm then the shadow will be cold" thing

I still don't get it and never know what colors to use when making shadows...

[Anonymous No.6180437]

[Anonymous No.6180454]

>>6180208
Let's use this drawing from a previous thread, as it really shows how things began to go wrong:
>ribcage
The ribcage is drawn too small which is curious, because the ribcage is fine in the image which you drew over. It's one of the few things the original anon got correct.
>hands
The figure's hands are too large, and the right hand is larger than the left. The right forearm is also larger than the left forearm.
>hips
The hips are canted in the wrong direction. If the right leg is raised, then the right hip should also be elevated.This is something that the original anon got wrong as well.
>legs
The right leg is larger than the left leg, especially the calf. The right knee should be pointed away from the viewer.

The core issue is that the reference you used had fundamental errors that you didn't recognize. A good drawing can't be built upon a bad foundation. It's fine if you want to use a pose from a drawing, but you also need to develop a critical eye to keep you from making the same errors in your own work. Hope this helps!

[Anonymous No.6180461]

>>6180454
Nta, but definitely a downgrade for me, whether what you're saying is accurate or not

[Anonymous No.6180464]

>>6180146
Still nothing?

[Anonymous No.6180468]

if im having back pain from drawing is it my posture or the way Im drawing? I use my arm+shoulder+wrist(rarely my wrist only for little things) to draw but dont think thats it. Should I stop drawing for a bit and change my posture when I start again?

[Anonymous No.6180474]

>>6180468
What are you drawing on?
If you're drawing on a table its probably just because you're hunched over. You could try drawing on a easel or something similar.

If you can't just make sure to stretch every few minutes, just toss your arms up and such.

[Anonymous No.6180479]

Someone said the lines I was using for linework were shit.
Do these look better? I'm not a huge fan, but one of the artists I like uses it for their linework.
Fun to draw with and really forgiving, but I don't like the finished look.

[Anonymous No.6180488]

>>6180479
NOT BEG

[Anonymous No.6180490]

>>6180412
makes perfect sense to me

[Anonymous No.6180510]

>>6180490
yeah you're right i have no clue how composition works I should read a book on it

[Anonymous No.6180523]

>>6180479
Brush doesn't matter too much it's how you use it for the lineart. Overall a bit boring but the texture makes it look slightly better. Also the hands my man... On one hand you got a tiny middle finger, on the peace sign hands the fingers are too short, work on that.
But hey your faces are decent I suppose though that left eye is wrong, compare sizes.
appeal is there, keep it up.

>>6180488
/beg/ and /int/ thread also lol that is beg my man

[Anonymous No.6180541]

>>6180326
Fucking awsome, saved

[Anonymous No.6180552]

>>6180326
what resources did you use to start learning painting?

[Anonymous No.6180554]

>>6180541
epic

[Anonymous No.6180557]

>>6180554
It's not sarcasm, i truly mean it

[Anonymous No.6180558]

>>6180552
to start painting? hmmm, well thats a hard question to answer since i took a lot what i knew about painting from what i learned about drawing i have been drawing since a child.

i guess the very first was bob ross thats what wanted me to start painting in the beginning. then i wanted to do portraiture, drawmixpaint is good for that. just try to identify what u need to learn next and focus on that one thing, thats my advice for a true beginner. just keep your goals simple and focus on one thing at a time. incorporate as much as u want, but just keep your focus on the thing ur trying to learn.

[Anonymous No.6180560]

>>6180557
thanks friend :)
glad u liked it

[Anonymous No.6180568]

[Anonymous No.6180575]

>>6180490
I've read part of this book and still think it's unnecessary is this just because I don't like being wrong?

[Anonymous No.6180585]

>>6180575
u are allowed to not like it, it dont much matter to me.

[Anonymous No.6180591]

>>6180326
I would probably do something more close to this. More texture using some textured brush, play around with the colors and bloom and give the drawing a more atmospheric surreal look to it. But I think that's more of a stylistic choice, the thing that bothers me most about this work in particular is the lack of contrast between all the colors, too much black and not enough other colors to contrast to everything. Kinda kills the atmosphere. specially with the background, but that is something that have 1000 different solutions.

[Anonymous No.6180601]

hand quick painting

[Anonymous No.6180608]

>>6180591
i can see what you are going for and i appreciate the paintover, very grateful. i do believe however that would drastically change the tone/atmosphere i was going for. thanks for the critique

[Anonymous No.6180610]

>>6180601
That's fairly good

[Anonymous No.6180613]

>>6180608
I think the principle is there, is more about the contrast between the characters and background, you can do this in many ways, just so they pop a bit more and the fires in the back are a bit more hazy with the atmosphere so they are not as much glaring points taking of the eye from the main characters, unless that's what you want.

[Anonymous No.6180628]

>>6180610
What to fix ?
hlp

[Anonymous No.6180631]

Doing some exercises from Perspective Made Easy; here's the one with a man looking at the near and far ends of a long, narrow table.

Let me know if I did it wrong; I'm typically pretty bad at perspective and don't have a long, narrow table in my tiny apartment.

[Anonymous No.6180632]

>>6179347
Feeling not at home because too many ints here as a permabeg

[Anonymous No.6180648]

>actually just two separate threads
kek

[Anonymous No.6180649]

>>6180002
what is the most effective way of studying this

[Anonymous No.6180650]

How do I fix this

[Anonymous No.6180665]

>>6180632
maybe you should try not being permabeg

[Anonymous No.6180672]

>>6180665
Maybe you should pyw

[Anonymous No.6180679]

>>6180650
Loomis

[Anonymous No.6180683]

>>6180672
grow up

[Anonymous No.6180702]

Hello BEG, i see today there is so much drawing there are TWO threads! Nice, lets draw so much next time there will be even three threads!

>>6180632
>everybody who is better than me is int
Dont be so dramatic. Now take a thick marker and outline your bunny shota to mask that chicken scratch. Gain that line confidence!
>>6180568
soul
>>6180479
You were most likely crabbed anon aka they lied to you
>>6180468
you should DEFINITELY fix your ergonomics or your spine will explode. Pillow under your ass, different table, different chair, change something so you dont die while drawing!
>>6180434
>shadows using color
Color is made by HUE + VALUE. You either lower the value (so instead of bright yellow you use darker yellow) or change hue to right/left a little (so instead of yellow you go for orange/green). Its all about using the color picker wheel.
https://www.muddycolors.com/2022/07/color-theory-part-9-the-anatomy-of-shadows/
>>6180146
https://www.thedesignsketchbook.com/how-to-draw-a-sphere-and-spot-the-xyz-axis-tip-166/
draw 999 spheres and cut each sphere few times. You will either "understand" it or memorize how the ellipses looks like in various angles. Same result really
>>6179969
was the deformed face intentional? the way you drew it she has 2 eyes wide space between her eyes.
>>6179872
god damn i love the lighting effects. saved for later study
>>6179868
as with anything else anon: find reference and draw what you see :-)
>>6179401
Very nice textures. It will be godlike if you finish it. I like the big snake face expression and the giant eye like its a cat. Is this art?

[Anonymous No.6180705]

>>6180454
nta but despite you being correct you have to take into account how the person is going for exaggerated anatomy and posing simply making them go to a less stylized and exaggerated figure isnt really the correct way to go, but just make sure the exaggeration is kept and is done right

kinda like old masters always drawing for an ideal instead of drawing the model 1:1 the context of the drawing needs to be taken into account

[Anonymous No.6180706]

Doodles

[Anonymous No.6180722]

>>6180683
>imagine

[Anonymous No.6180729]

>>6180702
Thank you anon. I'm not sure if I can finish it as I'm not very good at fine details. As for "Is this art", I did draw it, so I guess it is.

[Anonymous No.6180732]

>>6180454
that was a good catch on the forearms/hands especially the leg. I don't agree with the hip tilt though, I just tried the pose

[None !y84HWZvmds No.6180890]

>>6180722
>let it be
https://voca.ro/1faHDoieTGIc

[Anonymous No.6180913]

how many cubes and cylinders must be drawn before moving onto the figure?

[Anonymous No.6180916]

Why is charcoal bad for beginners again?

[Anonymous No.6180917]

[Anonymous No.6180919]

>>6180913
when youre able to draw them in random perspectives form imagination and also modify them into more organic shapes, like twistig the cylinder, make the cube elongated and similar to a pillow and so on

if you dont have a decent idea of how to make the most basic 3D shapes, then you are going to feel very frustrated trying to draw a human figure and end up like the retards who make threads complaining that x y z resource is shit

[Anonymous No.6180923]

>>6180913
It's understanding the forms in perspective that is important, not some arbitrary number of primitives you have to grind out. Vilppu and Michael Hampton have good examples of basic forms you need to be able to replicate in the first couple of chapters in their books.

>>6180916
It's a bit messy and requires some preparation and skill to sharpen. Bit of a sharp learning curve for a complete beginner, so it's easier to start with graphite. Once you are over the hump of handling charcoal it's fine for beginners. Since you have to use a light touch to not break it and be careful not to make a mess, it actually teaches good habits.

[Anonymous No.6180931]

>>6180138
>>6180139
love these. are you studying dong ho kim's space drawing too?
>>6180205
really cool
face and features are lopsided but great job overall

[Anonymous No.6180943]

>>6180917
How do I draw fais

[Anonymous No.6180946]

>>6180916
Idk we used charcoal in my beginner drawing class. It's pretty nice.
But, it was a lot more expensive and needed alot more space to use. Plus we were mostly doing value and form studies so charcoal worked easier since it blends so well. If you're just drawing then a pencil is cheaper and easier.

[Anonymous No.6180950]

>>6180923
>so it's easier to start with graphite
Aren't oil-based color pencils significantly better than graphite?

[Anonymous No.6180957]

>>6180923
>skill to sharpen
???
you don't use a pencil sharpener? even with charcoal pencils?

[Anonymous No.6180967]

[Anonymous No.6180968]

>>6180943
Loomis

[Anonymous No.6180970]

[Anonymous No.6180972]

>>6180967
i didnt do the sphere stuff with the cross in the middle but i drew a bunch of circles today too

[Anonymous No.6180975]

>>6180957
A lot of pencil sharpeners will break charcoal leads.
You use a razor blade to expose more of the lead so you use the side the pencil for a variety of strokes. You can use sand paper to get an even finer point so you can fill in tone much more smoothly. It allows you to fill the gaps caused by the tooth of the paper. But that's more for academic/atelier style drawing.
https://youtu.be/D_W9sZ8S7RM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84


>>6180950
Graphite is easier to recommend for beginners since everyone has one lying around.

[Anonymous No.6180991]

>>6180702
>Bunny shota
But... i was trying to draw a loli

[Anonymous No.6181008]

>>6180706
I like 'em. I did my own doodle before I go to bed. I tried drawing his structure only with ellipses and cylinders. I've only been learning gesture and basic shapes recently.

[Anonymous No.6181009]

>>6180931
Thank you for pointing out the issues with the face. Don’t know how I missed it. I’ve gotta get into the habit of flipping the canvas while I’m drawing.

[Anonymous No.6181014]

>>6180705
That was taken into account. The construction of the figure must still follow some fundamental rules (that the old masters came up with). I think people are confusing the simplified form as some sort of aesthetic preference. It's a redline. I'm trying to visually convey the iimportant nformation in as simple a way as possible. Muscles can still be drawn on top of the corrected torso.
>>6180732
Sure you did, buddy.

[Anonymous No.6181025]

>>6180706
nice booba

[Anonymous No.6181027]

I've got a rough sketch in for a webtoon page

>>6180931
definitely, it's a great book kek

[Anonymous No.6181028]

Panicked and lost sight of the total image with a bad start, fun to cope through the rest though.

[Anonymous No.6181037]

Beg/pre-beg here. Drew this fast just using my laptop's touchpad. It was fun to do, though I totally gave up on the arm/hand
Anyway, I'm still practicing with drawing shapes in perspective. But I don't want to just do that over & over and nothing else. What's a good thing to study alongside shapes? Lighting/shading? Figure drawing? A deeper look into perspective?

[Anonymous No.6181057]

[Anonymous No.6181066]

>>6181028
ext time take a pic without flash and only good natural lighting or pass it through PS, Krita or wtv software that has decent editinng tools to adjust the levels and contrast so its easier to see whats going on

graphite is already very shiny and light on camera and with that lighting is worse

[Anonymous No.6181076]

>>6181066
Next time.

[Anonymous No.6181087]

Opinions? Personally I think newsprint sucks, what's so good about it?

[Anonymous No.6181100]

>>6181087
>what's so good about it?
It's cheap and stop using it

[Anonymous No.6181103]

>>6181100
It was expensive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6181107]

>>6181087
You are going the right way esdeath.

[Anonymous No.6181119]

>>6181103
Well even more of a reason to stop using it then

[Anonymous No.6181124]

>>6181107
Thanks, I think all the measuring from my realistic portraits helped me draw without measuring. Because I stopped measuring and it's much easier now.

>>6181119
Oh but I still have like 300 pages left to use. It's much larger than A4 so I'm using it and hopefully learn to use charcoal better, but I hate how soft it is.

[Hoboanon No.6181127]

>>6181124
Esdeath anon you ngmi, im sorry.

[Anonymous No.6181132]

>>6181127
Because I stopped measuring? My course said I can stop measuring after awhile.

[Anonymous No.6181133]

hargon

[Anonymous No.6181135]

turns out it wasn't my wrist but my ecu how did that happen?? can I still draw with an ecu inflammation?

[Anonymous No.6181137]

>>6181127
That's fine. As a fellow permabeg. I'd rather happy seeing him here much like gabe.

Now if he just practices Hampton and krenz's perspective course, that would be evenly.

[Anonymous No.6181140]

>>6181137
esl prebeg-sama...

[Anonymous No.6181145]

>>6181135
Just eat healthy stuff to combat inflammation like fresh ginger and limit your sugar intake.

[Anonymous No.6181151]

>>6181127
Also, not sure why you used "ngmi" when I'm clearly improving. The shading is 3D and there's no symbol drawing. Even when flipped the face is fine. This is without cheating using ctrl+z.
Further, you didn't notice anything wrong with the anatomy in the initial post. Obviously you're mad that I stopped measuring but my quality and efficiency increased tenfold after doing things my own way and I'm improving with every drawing I make. Of course, I do measure instinctively using plumb lines but I'm not doing the close eye and measure method because it's a waste of time.
Your crabbing wasn't needed.

[Anonymous No.6181152]

>>6181151
Plus my ref was wearing clothes so I guessed where her body parts were too. All instinct.

[Anonymous No.6181153]

>>6181151
Stress and anger also cause inflammation in the body.

[Anonymous No.6181154]

>>6181151
show ref

[Anonymous No.6181156]

>>6181154
Here.
>>6181153
I've never been stressed ever since I quit my day job. Crabbing doesn't stress me out much, I'm used to it.

[Anonymous No.6181160]

>>6181154
>>6181156
Also mind you I'm not trying to make an exact copy anymore. I'm just using it as a reference, not trying to be a photocopier. I've already done that last year. The fact nobody pointed out any anatomical errors in the initial post is proof enough that it's fine, so even if you overlay it it's not going to prove anything.

[Anonymous No.6181161]

>NEET hikikomori's gaijin roommate poses for her sketch
>attempt at >>>/wg/7899067 observation
>very quick attempt at op challenge
Before I started doodling to fill the page because it's friggin' 4am
I very much feel a frustration with myself, to imagine vivid cityspaces and detailed manga shots and not have the skill to carry through without immediately hitting a point of fatigue, even with careful referencing. For that reason, I scale back a lot. Over time, I'm hopeful I'll be able to figure it out.
Also, every time I drop by the /beg/ thread completely changes format kek

[Anonymous No.6181164]

Hey anons

I drew this woman from the picture shown. I hate that it looks so sloppy. How should I think about the tones/shadows here? How can I make my tones/shadows more neat and pretty looking?

[Anonymous No.6181167]

>>6181160

[Anonymous No.6181170]

>>6181167
Yeah, like I said it still looks great.
If it was on digital and I colored it, it would be good enough even for social media. That's how much more efficient it is to draw from instinct. The benefits outweigh everything.
I'm learning a lot about the curves on the body and the ratios to remember by doing what I'm doing.
If you want to prove a point to me you'd have to redline the anatomy and point out where it's technically wrong. Because I'm only using the ref as a reference.
Also mind you I am doing so well that I was accused of tracing in the other thread. >>6178303
Now explain how I am ngmi.

[Anonymous No.6181173]

>>6181170
Short arms.

[Anonymous No.6181178]

>>6181173
Yeah, I knew that already. The overall balance is fine though.
My point is that trying to make an exact copy takes ten times more time than drawing from instinct using plumb lines.
I will gradually get a grasp of arm length by continuing what I'm doing. Obviously there is room for improvement, but it's an improvement I will make by drawing bodies over and over.
Still not sure why you said ngmi.

[Anonymous No.6181181]

>>6181173
>>6181178
Plus, Yoruichi's arms in that drawing on the ref are thick as fuck. I made it thinner on purpose.

[Anonymous No.6181182]

>>6181170
Bruh please
She's missing her deltoid, her ass is too high up, her ribcage on the left side of picture should be poking out and having a proper corner and you clearly don't understand what's going on in the armpit area and how the muscles interconnect and overlap there.
Stop acting like this and go take a look at an anatomy book.

[Anonymous No.6181189]

>>6181182
See this is the type of critique I wanted.
The armpit did confuse me, when you said I'm missing a deltoid you're referring to the armpit area.
I was aware of the ribcage on the left side, if you look carefully there is a separate line defining it. It's just not sticking out enough.
Learning anatomy =/= photocopying. So this was actually useful advice thanks. Problem is Loomis and Hampton bodies aren't as curvy and defined as anime bodies.

[Anonymous No.6181206]

>>6181182
Also, how is her ass too high? I looked at 10 references, even real ones, and they have the ass starting at the same spot.

[Anonymous No.6181223]

>>6181167
>>6181182
Also her ribcage doesn't necessarily have to poke out. You're relying on the reference too much, not anatomical knowledge. Have a look at this pic, the left ribcage is not sticking out.
I want to do the opposite. I want to rely on anatomical knowledge, not reference.

[Anonymous No.6181224]

>>6181223
What the hell are you talking about.

[Anonymous No.6181230]

>>6180146
Perspective is what will help you.

[Anonymous No.6181240]

>>6181223
chill with the post processing

[Anonymous No.6181252]

>>6173998
I liked the characters here and I wanted to try drawing some characters interacting

[Anonymous No.6181262]

>>6179347
Is this an easy artstyle to learn? I'm just starting out and I really like this sorta plump, round anime-y style that a lot of people do

[Anonymous No.6181264]

>>6181262
I find it aweful, and the fact that you're asking that question it means that you haven't even tried yet

[Anonymous No.6181268]

>>6181262
It's insanely easy, no line weight, minimal rendering

Easy as it gets.

[Anonymous No.6181269]

[Anonymous No.6181270]

>anon posts something that can ba called mid beg and even that would be a strech
>"REEEE UR NOR BEG BECAUSE I CAN'T DRAW LIKE YOU"
/ic/isters i'm dissapointed

[Anonymous No.6181272]

>>6181269
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.6181273]

>>6181272
Where's her pelvis.

[Anonymous No.6181276]

>>6181272
I really wanna know why you are so obsessed with Esdeath.

[Anonymous No.6181277]

>>6181272
Yeah I know the distance from vagina to belly button is different, but looking at references every woman is different. Unless there's a rule for it.

[Anonymous No.6181278]

>>6181276
Nah not really obsessed, just easy to draw since I've practiced her so much. I wanna draw Gawr Gura but I can't draw lolis or her hairstyle.

[Anonymous No.6181279]

>everyone poring all of their attention into a LARPing faggot again
There goes the study thread.

[Anonymous No.6181287]

>>6180378
>topology is the study of geometrical objects when you don't care about lengths or angles, what you care about is some sort of global shape properties
What a convoluted way to avoid saying:
>topology is the study of holes

[Anonymous No.6181293]

Hey guys is there any way to find the green line placement in the most accurate way? Thx

[Anonymous No.6181295]

>>6181293
Using 3 point perspective.

[Anonymous No.6181298]

>>6180702
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.6181301]

>>6181295
But my pic is in 2-point, there is no way to find out where it should be unless its 3-point?

[Anonymous No.6181302]

>>6181037
Just occasionally draw what you like and try implementing gained knowledge and skills

[Anonymous No.6181304]

>>6181293
I don't get the question, it literally shows you on the pic you posted

[Anonymous No.6181309]

>>6181293
draw straight black lines

[Anonymous No.6181310]

>>6181301
Yes. 2point is an unironic meme.

[Anonymous No.6181313]

>>6181230
Trying that already
It helps but it's too much work

[Anonymous No.6181315]

>>6181304
no no the green line actually is me eyeballing it and draw it in. I want to find the “proper” way to draw it, not by eyeball. Srry if i was being too vague.
>>6181310
Oh okay thx

[Anonymous No.6181317]

Is this good practice?
Or im making retarded scribbles for no reason?

[Anonymous No.6181321]

>>6181293

[Anonymous No.6181331]

opinions on design?

[Anonymous No.6181333]

>>6181331
im sorri forgot to resize, new to this thread :s

[Anonymous No.6181335]

>>6179373
You have superficial anatomy knowledge. You should be learning about the major simplified forms. Proportions are terrible as well.
>>6179401
I can't tell what's going on here. Consider increasing the value range.
>>6179868
You need to suggest the shape and texture of vegetation, not draw every single stalk and leaf. You main focus should be on the values first and foremost.
>>6179872
Terrible mess. No focal point. You've blasted everything with highlights, is there a nuclear explosion off camera?
>>6179987
Instead of mindlessly sketching 5 construction layers, just do 1 carefully thought out sketch and correct it until you're satisfied with it. Maybe do a quick thumbnail first to get a feel for the composition. Also use a ref for complex poses like this, you're not good enough to do it from imagination.
>>6180229
Fucked up head and upper back.
>>6180326
Cool painting. The cast shadows don't follow the light source. The girl's shadow should be slender and stretch out more towards the horizon. The skull guy's shadow shouldn't be visible to the viewers, as it is cast behind him.
Overall the background could use more variation in sharpness and softness, and maybe a bit more contrast.
>>6180591
This is retarded.
>>6180479
Your lines are fine, you should be concerned about anatomy. The girl on the right has an asymmetrical face, looks like it's drooping downwards. The hands are also fucked up.
>>6180601
Great practice.
>>6181028
You need sharp, well defined edges. Your drawing has 0 form.
>>6181133
cool shapes.
>>6181164
Good attempt. You need to make more careful measurements during the construction phase. Always compare the angles and relative positions of major landmarks (the hat, nose, chin, shoulder, etc.) with the ref.
As for shading, your mid tones are way too dark. If you pay attention to the ref, the light source is almost directly in front of the model's face. So there are no hard shadows anywhere on her face, only very soft gradations.

[Anonymous No.6181339]

>>6181331
how long do you draw

[Anonymous No.6181341]

>>6181339
yes

[Anonymous No.6181342]

>>6181313
Learning is hard who would've thought. It's what makes you progress after all.

[Anonymous No.6181344]

>>6181321
Ooh make sense :d ty again

[Anonymous No.6181345]

>>6181339
memes aside, that piece? no idea, i dont calculate. overall? since 8 i remember i wanted to learn drawing

[Anonymous No.6181346]

>>6181335
inb4 you get called a crab and to pyw cuz you oly told truths

[Anonymous No.6181347]

>>6181345
it's just bad dude

[Anonymous No.6181348]

[Anonymous No.6181349]

>>6181346
He's a crab because oh how he worded critiques, only crabs work in absolutes.

[Anonymous No.6181350]

>>6181331
design's alright
the drawing itself is amateurish

[Anonymous No.6181352]

>>6181347
>When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art

opinion: denied and acknowledged
im pretty new on designing so im intrigued to have some real feedback but thanks for your contribution

>>6181350
thank you! :)

[Anonymous No.6181356]

Are there any online 3d human muscle models that you can turn on and off different muscles to study specific ones?

[Anonymous No.6181368]

is it normal for your shoulder to wear out when starting as a /beg/?

[Anonymous No.6181370]

posemaniacs is pretty good

[Anonymous No.6181373]

Is it a good idea to draw like a painter when first starting?

[Anonymous No.6181374]

Just some walking.

[Anonymous No.6181376]

>>6181373
its called painting

[Anonymous No.6181377]

>>6181376
Whatever.
Is it a good idea?
Or should I focus on doing proper lineart first?

[Anonymous No.6181378]

>>6181377
both

[Anonymous No.6181380]

>>6181377
Do both. I heard from Scott Robertson that it's okay to paint at start, because it's hard to see lines, but seeing color blobs is much easier (and the only natural way to observe real world).

[Anonymous No.6181384]

>>6181335
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.6181396]

>>6181384
PYW

[Anonymous No.6181398]

>>6181396
PYW

[Anonymous No.6181401]

>>6181331
Kudos to you for actually finishing a drawing
I rarely actually paint over anything

As for critique - I feel like the head is a little small, or the feet are too large
He looks like he's about to fall over backwards
he hand is weirdly big - and the fingers look like a weak spot - then again, same here

My male anatomy ain't great so take everything here with a grain of salt

The painterly look, looks good though

[Anonymous No.6181402]

>>6181335
You're that guy with the terrible detective bird comic thing right?

[Anonymous No.6181406]

How do you into croquis? Working on something for 15 minutes or less, especially without an eraser, absolutely destroys me.

[Anonymous No.6181409]

>>6181401
wow dude, thank you so much!!! i shall definitely see this when i continue it :) its not done yet though, still missing details.

[Anonymous No.6181410]

>>6181406
What do you study

[Anonymous No.6181421]

On mobile so forgive me if the image rotates itself. I took another stab at a similar pose to the one I did last night. I think I fucked up her left arm and left calve, and still don’t fully grasp how to form the pectoral muscles. I tried to do this quick and without any reference.

[Anonymous No.6181424]

>>6181410
Currently going through Bammes's book. After that I might do Bridgman. Then I'll do both one more time. >>6181410

[Anonymous No.6181428]

>>6181424
You can try Vilppu's approach. He's amazing.

[Anonymous No.6181431]

>>6180229
Not sure if it's just because I'm beg - but I think the body on this is really good!

your lines are scratchy and the face is a weak spot but the body ain't half bad - did you use a reference?

[Anonymous No.6181435]

>>6181428
I've tried Vilppu but I don't understand him. I rewatched his lecture on gesture 4 times and I still have no idea what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.6181439]

[Anonymous No.6181446]

>>6181335
let's see one of your drawings

[Anonymous No.6181455]

>>6181398
No u

[Anonymous No.6181459]

>>6181331
I like the colors. If you learn proportions and anatomy, I think you can make some really cool fantasy characters, like table top RPG artwork.

The hand is really big, the legs are just flat, and the daggers on the legs are just floating there. The gauntlet is also flat, it needs to be more cylindrical to feel like it is wrapped around the arm.

Learn some stuff about basic shapes and figure sketching, and keep coming back to this character to apply the stuff you learn. It'll be cool to see how this character design improves as you learn.

[None !7A0CxYyovM No.6181468]

Was doing my FFXIV character. Please destroy it.

[Anonymous No.6181472]

[Anonymous No.6181473]

>>6181468
The gesture lacks feeling.

[Anonymous No.6181482]

First time painting the head. Any major flaws i should know about?

[Anonymous No.6181487]

>>6181468
>>6181473
I was thinking this too. I think you nailed the look for a Final Fantasy character, it just needs some energy to it. Have the cape swoop out and back down around the boots, same motion for the tail. Have the hair on the right side of the head flow up and back a little bit, and the bangs on the left side of the head flow to the left side of the page. Like a gust of wind blowing passed the character.

I like swirling motions, so I'm a bit biased. I don't use digital... so I hope my arrows are somewhat helpful.

Besides that, maybe work on hands and feet. After that, some solid inking in and I think you've got yourself a really nice looking character.

[Anonymous No.6181489]

>>6181487
no.

[Anonymous No.6181498]

>>6181293
>measure top edge of roof
>mark half the length
>measure bottom edge of roof
>mark half its length
>connect the two marks
???????
>>6181331
The armor is nicely detailed, but the knives on the legs look a little odd. Are they magnetized? They should be sheathed at the very least.

[Anonymous No.6181504]

>>6181489
Is it that bad? How would you make that motion work?

[Anonymous No.6181509]

>>6181482
The likeness is pretty off.

[Anonymous No.6181510]

[Anonymous No.6181520]

at least i tried...

[Anonymous No.6181576]

>>6181482
the biggest issue is that the proportions are off, her face isn't that wide in the ref. i'd work on that first

[Anonymous No.6181588]

>>6181520
why did you shade the left side of the cup darker than the right - when the cup is clearly darkest in the middle and inside the handle?

[Anonymous No.6181590]

>>6181270
shut up you will suck my permabeg cock

[Anonymous No.6181591]

If I want to emulate the style of WH40K artwork, what book, guide, course is best for learning about painting and the different types of mediums?

[Anonymous No.6181596]

>>6181591
PYW first before getting some advice

You might be at a point right now where you need to learn more than rendering - and it's probably better to learn the fundamentals before proceeding with advance topics

[Anonymous No.6181597]

How to stop drawing Loomis heads

[Anonymous No.6181604]

>>6181597
Loomi- oh wait shit

[Anonymous No.6181612]

>>6181591
There's no magical formula for what you want. If you want to paint pictures you like, study the paintings you like. Figure out what you like about them, and try reproducing them. Learn fundamentals. That's it.

[Anonymous No.6181655]

any advice appreciated

[Anonymous No.6181656]

>>6181588
Because i was dissapointed about my drawing, and i lose all the interest in that drawing.

[Anonymous No.6181659]

>>6179969
This is great

[Anonymous No.6181672]

I enjoyed this red-line I did

What do you guys think of the weaboo version?

[Anonymous No.6181692]

Need some material for value studies, any good websites for that?

[Anonymous No.6181693]

why does esdeath schizo keep going despite obviously being a permabeg? why does he refuse to learn 3D form properly?

[Anonymous No.6181694]

>>6181672
>What do you guys think of the weaboo version?
Cute. The left one looks like a monkey

[Anonymous No.6181697]

>>6181693
PYW

[Anonymous No.6181698]

>>6181693
pyw

[Anonymous No.6181706]

>>6181693
Look at this and say it again crab >>6181510
And I'm going to refine it tomorrow for the next power level thread. Let's see your work and see what you've got.

[Anonymous No.6181712]

>>6181706
>>6181693
samefag

[Anonymous No.6181713]

>>6181706
>Look at this and say it again crab >>6181510
Ok, just looked.

why does esdeath schizo keep going despite obviously being a permabeg?

[Anonymous No.6181718]

>>6181713
Let's see your work.

[Anonymous No.6181744]

>>6181718
Seeing my work doesn’t make him suck any less.

[Anonymous No.6181748]

Why does the right look better than the left, even though I used the same style?

[Anonymous No.6181750]

>>6181748
it doesnt

[Anonymous No.6181904]

sketched this out today and didn't give it much thought before inking but now I see a lot of mistakes. I want to switch over to digital to clean it up - what areas do I need to focus on most?

[Anonymous No.6181913]

>>6181655
What a tough pose you tried to draw
firstly, having characters interact, and a background is a hard to do - so nice work trying something complicated

Sadly, theres a ton of stuff wrong with this - overall everything looks stiff, disproportionate and flat

The pose is really awkward - and the limbs are really long - the cigarette character's arms would be dragging on the floor
the other characters hands look like folded paper - especially the finger holding the knife

keep trying though, it was a complicated idea and I'm sure you learnt a lot from it

[Anonymous No.6181927]

>>6181904
The costumes could use more work. They don't really look like they're made of fabric, particularly the dress. Both figures have rather long necks. The seated figure's head looks like it's about to be pulled off by the standing figure. Not sure why the two of them are pushed into the corner of the frame, unless there's going to be something in all that empty space.

[Anonymous No.6181930]

>>6181904
looks good! Especially for trad drawing

But Link's face us squashed down - I feel like you did this to make it look like he was looking down - but it just comes off sorta weird

[Anonymous No.6181939]

charlemagne

[Anonymous No.6181961]

I know I need to refine some stuff since its a wip, but hows it going

[Anonymous No.6181966]

>>6180326
nice, but her dress looks like it's made out of trash bag material

[Anonymous No.6182004]

I figure drawing from real life images and objects is fine, but am I wasting time by drawing and studying other artist's drawings? I've gotten into the habit of finding some art I like and drawing it out, and seeing how it compares in terms of perspective and proportions and etc.
Drawing something from scratch feels a lot harder in comparison, but I figure that's from a lack of practice recently.

[Anonymous No.6182018]

First time I ever came this board.

29yo, can't draw shit, Its too late to start anons? I need some kind of creative hobby.

[Anonymous No.6182019]

>>6182004
yeah that's fine to do

That's why there's an anime study general, and a great masters study general

drawing from art you like also helps you develop a style - and style is just things you have learnt to do without looking at reference

Draw a 1000 crash bandicoots, and you'll likely develop a way to draw him that's faster and faster - but if all you draw is that then when you try and make something else, it will likely be Crash bandicoot-esque characters. It's good to have a balance of life study and art study

[Anonymous No.6182024]

>>6182018
too late for what? What is your intention?

don't go into art thinking you're gonna be making 1000's making comissions - go in wanting to have fun, if you enjoy drawing then you've already made it - if you want to draw to make money/make cool stuff then it's an uphill battle with tons of study and practice and patience

also post your work - let's see where you are at

[Anonymous No.6182026]

>>6182018
Yes its too late since your brain has already started to rot with defeatism even before you started fucking drawing.
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.6182029]

>>6182018
Its never too late, but don't expect to git gud any time soon. Think a decade.

[Anonymous No.6182032]

Calling this one done now, pretty satisfied with it. Minus points for not making myself draw proper hands

[Anonymous No.6182041]

>>6182018
Of course you can make it, We’re all gonna make it anon. If your goal is to have a creative hobby you’re already in a good spot

[Anonymous No.6182048]

>>6182032
looks pretty good, even the hands, but especially the lightning

[Anonymous No.6182049]

Why is it so much easier to do short hatching lines when you loop the strokes?

[Anonymous No.6182050]

>>6182018
the fact you need post that casts a great doubt. But prove me wrong anon.

[Anonymous No.6182054]

>>6181904
the reason they're in the corner is just that I started without a plan and ended up in the corner of the page, sadly. thanks for the note about the clothes, I'll try and address that with more natural folds and adding some space between the clothes and the bodies.

>>6181930
ah that's a nice point and you're correct. his features really are all over the place. thank you for taking the time to draw that out for me, it's much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6182058]

>>6182054 was meant for >>6181927
didn't mean to give myself a (You)

[Anonymous No.6182116]

>>6182019
Makes sense. Although I might have to focus primarily on one artist, or a small set of them, if I want to develop a style similar enough to theirs, I'm guessing.
Any sort of recommendation on how much I should draw by studying other people's art, versus drawing from imagination myself?

[Anonymous No.6182128]

My attempt of GIR

[Anonymous No.6182170]

>>6182128
Is invader Zim popular again?
I've been seeing people talk about it more and more recently

Also - Gir is hard as fuck to draw, the artstyle is super iconic and poppy, but the shapes don't make sense in 3D to me at all
But try and break down the shapes into their simplest forms - gir is made of mostly pills and tubes

[Anonymous No.6182200]

quick thing from imagination i had to stop because my pen is wearing down really bad i just have to buy a new tablet, they dont even make these pens anymore

critique welcome btw

[Anonymous No.6182265]

I can't draw Picasso Stravinsky upside down.
Did I get memed on?

[Anonymous No.6182270]

Just started Loomis 2 weeks ago, my prog so far

[Anonymous No.6182271]

>>6182265
its a useless exercise compared to beginning by drawing 3D forms

there is a reason those kinds of exercises are only used in courses and books for normie housewives

[Anonymous No.6182276]

>>6182271
Then why did the /ic/ sticky tell me to do that?

[Anonymous No.6182278]

>its a useless exercise compared to beginning by drawing 3D forms

[Anonymous No.6182283]

>>6182276
Ignore him. Anyone telling you to grind boxes as a way to start drawing is a pajeet drawabox shill.

[Anonymous No.6182311]

My elipses always come out retarded
You'd think that a month of drawing would be enough to start drawing them well
But nope, I simply can't

[Anonymous No.6182333]

>>6182270
Good job falling for the beg trap.

[Anonymous No.6182337]

>>6182276
Because the /ic/ sticky was literally written by a woman.
The same woman also literally broke her hands grinding and can't draw properly anymore. Do you really want to take advice from someone like that?

[Anonymous No.6182341]

>>6182311
Because you're not drawing with your shoulder.
Because you're not pantomiming.
Because you're not doing any dedicated ellipse practice.

You shouldn't be drawing anything like a character until you can draw ellipses and circles consistently.

[Anonymous No.6182347]

>>6182337
Wait who? Spill the lore.

[Anonymous No.6182354]

>>6182333
>>6182337
good morning

[Anonymous No.6182359]

>>6182341
The fuck is pantomiming?

[Anonymous No.6182362]

>>6182359
fancy word for ghosting your lines.

[Anonymous No.6182383]

>>6181348
holy shit are you *the* esdeathanon ? if yes you might actually be out of stagnation in lowbeg, continue

[Anonymous No.6182386]

sketch

[Anonymous No.6182449]

/pre-beg/ friends we got too cocky again... Technically not a repost since this is a different thread; the middle two are 'new' also.

Back to actually studying classics, but with a normal pencil. Haven't done portraits IRL in a while either...

[Anonymous No.6182506]

>>6182170
There was actually a guy who worked on the invader Zim animation teams, he said it was one of the hardest art styles he had to learn just because the shapes didn't make any sense to rotate. Johnen Vasquez didn't really do animation before the show, so the characters are made to be drawn in a more 2d style.

[Anonymous No.6182697]

I'm pre-/beg/ going through that Eviston book. My first goal is to be able to draw dinosaurs before going into figure drawing and so on, but, is this a good idea? Should I let my dinosaurs in peace and begin with human beings instead?

[Anonymous No.6182704]

>>6182697
Practice drawing the things you want to be good at drawing. The fundamentals help with drawing any subject tho.

[Anonymous No.6182725]

>>6182697
>that Eviston book
Which?
Also I'd ignore >>6182704 you can have fun AFTER you study. I cringe like crazy whenever I try to draw what I really want to draw.

[Anonymous No.6182762]

quick alien sketch

[Anonymous No.6182805]

>>6182725
The Art and Science of Drawing

[Anonymous No.6182978]

Dunno what the fella's gonna be wearing, but at least made some progress on the sketch.

[Anonymous No.6183124]

>>6182362
got it

[Anonymous No.6183367]

>>6182725
You're gonna be cringing for a long time then, because if you don't practice you'll never get good. It is absolutely critical that you accept you're going to put out dogshit for a while, there's no way around it.

[Anonymous No.6183388]

>>6183367
>You're gonna be cringing for a long time then
I know, that's why I hate drawing.

[Anonymous No.6183396]

>>6183388
>I hate drawing
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6183408]

>>6183396
Boy, an anonymous post posting an ambiguous acronym, that sure showed me!