/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6177083]

What will you do when machines make you obsolete?

[Anonymous No.6177086]

>>6177083
Make real paintings instead

[Anonymous No.6177094]

I was thinking of doing sculpting, I might try selling trad work locally. dunno if I can make a living off that though

[Anonymous No.6177096]

>>6177083
Make more of what I want even faster

[Anonymous No.6177099]

>>6177083
Beat me to it, lol. Greetings from /v/.

[Anonymous No.6177101]

jannies do your jobs or im holding back pay

[Anonymous No.6177111]

>>6177083
at least its not a tranny thread

[Anonymous No.6177125]

>>6177083

[Anonymous No.6177126]

>>6177083
Probably go outside.
Landscape painting pales in comparisson to expirencing gods creation first hand.

[Anonymous No.6177135]

>>6177083
>realism
Glorified wallpaper generator

[Anonymous No.6177136]

>>6177083
Keep drawing. My main goal is to get good. East AIS are good at replicating generic styles like the anime-faced type stuff but as far as I've seen they struggle with copying someone's unique art style.

[Anonymous No.6177230]

>>6177083
looks like ass

[Anonymous No.6177243]

>>6177083
Find you and kill you.

[Anonymous No.6177275]

>>6177243
you're aiming for the wrong person desu

[Anonymous No.6177279]

>>6177275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIdMFGS5FJY

[Anonymous No.6177280]

>>6177083
MMA

[Anonymous No.6177305]

>>6177083
>What will you do when machines make you obsolete?
I'll literally just keep drawing, kinda like how chess players have kept playing chess, even though there has been AI that is better than 100% of them for the past 30 fucking years.

>hurr durr chess is competitive, and art isn't
I don't care, I can still enjoy art as a hobby, and find websites that ban AI artwork, like how AI is banned in chess tournaments.

[Anonymous No.6177309]

>>6177083
Continue creating art because I do it for myself.

[Anonymous No.6177315]

>>6177083
Art isn't my job and literally no one cares about anything I make. This does not affect me.

[Anonymous No.6177322]

>>6177083
nothing because i dont draw anyway

[Anonymous No.6177324]

>>6177083
It's pretty simple.
I become a machine.

[Anonymous No.6177358]

>>6177083
can machines do /ss/?

[Anonymous No.6177360]

fuck robot pussy

[Anonymous No.6177375]

>>6177083
fuck a robot

[Anonymous No.6177378]

>>6177083
I'll do your mom

[Anonymous No.6177395]

>>6177083
keep drawing like i always do, imagine pursuing art for money instead of genuine enjoyment

[Anonymous No.6177403]

>>6177083
Start the 4th Reich or Stalin's second coming. Idk something radical

[Anonymous No.6177405]

Remember to report OP for spam: >>6177083

[Anonymous No.6178133]

Create actual new and original stories. Because the competition would now be centered around storytelling too stand out if we're talking graphic novels.

[Anonymous No.6178288]

>>6177083
Literally just keep drawing and producing art. Machines/AIs don't have human souls so they can't produce any artwork that has emotion, gesture, or story behind it. It's almost always gibberish. At best, they'll good with realism but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.6178299]

Why did aijanny deleted my thread in 2 seconds?

[Anonymous No.6178302]

Ban AI threads.

>What will you do when machines make you obsolete?
Loaded question, I don't aspire to compete with robots.

[Anonymous No.6178308]

>>6178302
>>What will you do when machines make you obsolete?t machine

[Anonymous No.6178332]

bump

[Anonymous No.6178341]

>>6177083
I honestly can't wait for that to happen.
So many "artists" will be filtered out.
It will be the great dying; so many retards will give up their dreams(lol) of getting rich and famous.
So many pornographers will be forgotten the instant porn AI will be available.
Normies will not give a shit about artists anymore.
Art will not have a reward anymore thus only those who pursue the craft for the sake of art and expression will remain.
You will see artists becoming violent and trying to shut the AIs down.
This will only lead to AIs getting stronger and everyone avoiding artists even more killing any job opportunities for them.

AI will literally cure the cancer that has become art.
This is a rebirth.
I'm incredibly excited.

[Anonymous No.6178369]

>>6178341
the death of the generic pinup floating in space will end ad people gonna have to actually add some semblance of story and composition just to compete with the worst of AI

cant wait for human art to become more interesting than the shit i social media rn

[Anonymous No.6178370]

>>6178341
>t. Shizo retard.

[Anonymous No.6178414]

>>6178370
>t. ai

[Anonymous No.6178423]

>>6178370
>SCHIZO SCHIZO SCHIZO
I mean, you don't make it difficult for AI to replace the likes of you if this shit is already schizo tier for you.
I mean, do you even ask yourself why you would post such self defeating trash? Do you really despise yourself this much that that's the best you can come up with?
The absolute intellectual state of anti-AI retards
holy algorithm
>>6178369
Pretty much.
You will first see many dropping like flies.
Many outright disappearing or killing themselves.
Many spamming their social media about how AI is the ultimate evil and how they deserve money for existing and being an """""artist"""", meanwhile being ignored by normies that now can make all the art they want without pesky, entitled """artists""".

It's going to be a digital bloodbath.

[Anonymous No.6178431]

>>6177125
>Can you?

[Anonymous No.6178447]

>>6178369
Human art won't become any more interesting when mediocrity is rewarded and effort is seen as useless due to AI. In fact, it will slowly degrade. Why bother wasting time trying to draw something from scratch on a blank canvas when you could have Dall-e 10 generate you something just as good? Why walk from your house to a mall when you could use a teleporter? You can't create something out of this world with a pen or clay either, so even the best artists will have their astonishing styles effortlessly replicated by AI when it masters the three dimensions.

[Anonymous No.6178461]

>>6177083
It only concerns artists who chose the (easy) path that is "Realism"

[Anonymous No.6178462]

>>6178423
Is this a cope coming from a failed artist or are you genuinely bitter against artists for some reason? I don't mean to be blunt, but I'm curious what kind of person posts like this with a boner poking through their pants and clenched fists as they dream about the death of """artists."""" I understand that you're upset at """"""""""""artists"""""""""""" who want to make art for reasons other than for the sake of it or expression (unless it's the wrong kind of expression I suppose), but wouldn't this apply to literally anything else that gets automated? "Grrrrr, fuck those dumb programmers, wanting to make MONEY from their knowledge, they should just be writing lines of code for the sake of the science!"

[Anonymous No.6178463]

>>6178447
>when mediocrity is rewarded
How is that any different from now?
>why should i draw if there is AI?
And that's exactly the type of people who will get filtered by AI.
It's the same as saying:
>Why bother eating when you're going to shit it out anyway?
No one is putting a gun to your head forcing you to draw solely to get clout and commission bucks.
Artists have treated art like a consumer commodity, they showed that the market is huge and full of paypigs, this is what they get.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You reap what you sow.
Your average consumer and your average ceo aren't going to give a flying fuck whether or not you can make a living with your art.
Does the average consume have taste?
No, they only care if something is good enough to consume.

This is the absolute reality.
What is it that you don't understand?
>b-b-b-but i think that it looks bad waaah why won't people consume what i think they should??? preferably my consumer product so they give ME money waaaaah
No one cares.
Accept fading into nothingness.

[Anonymous No.6178464]

>ai thread number 10394983839

>still haven't seen a single good artist ai shill

[Anonymous No.6178466]

>>6178462
I'm legitimately curious as well. I have seen these posts before and it comes across as seething at the idea of an artist making money off his skill. Like, I understand the notion of disliking art that's too commercialized, but I don't get the feeling that these anons get this upset at people who profit of their non-art trades, and I certainly don't see them as being the art connoisseur type who wants to free artists from the shackles of capitalism.

[Anonymous No.6178470]

>baiting this hard

[Anonymous No.6178486]

>>6178462
Is this a projection+bias confirmation coming from crippling insecurity and low IQ?
>w-w-waah how dare someone exists and say things i don't like that are actually happening but i don't want to think about it because it hurts my feelings waaaaaaah get out of my echo chamber hugbox waaaah capitalism bad also give me money for doing art how dare you not give me money waaaaaaah everyone is against me, fucking schizos waaaaaah
Your kind of retard always shoots the messenger, while the one killing you doesn't even think about you.
Because it's better to feel good about yourselves than actually facing reality.
The issue is that you're retarded and drag every other delusional faggot with you only to serve yourselves.

I don't respect you. Not on an art basis, but as people. You're the most vile and disgusting creatures i have ever had the misfortune to interact with.
I would rather shoot a puppy than be in the same room with an artist.
Of course you're going to twist it and take is as a compliment because that's how you people are.
And of course artists aren't all the same even though they are but how else are you going to save your fragile ego?

And i love AI for the sole reason that it will remove social parasites like you.
Also because it's funny.

[Anonymous No.6178494]

>>6178486
But what i basically mean to say is:
Artists are the niggers of art.

[Anonymous No.6178498]

>>6177083
I will keep drawing loli

[Anonymous No.6178500]

>>6178498
post your cunny

[Anonymous No.6178502]

>>6178466
Anon's baiting. Either way, this kind of AI would make even a system that does not rely on currency breaks. The resources and time of production were suddenly reduced to <0,1% of the effort it would take for any human to make a similar image it generated, and the quality gap will keep decreasing as far as it can go. If it goes on uninterrupted, art will definitely stop being handmade just like people quit using sticks and rocks to lit a fire. A single press of a button would cook the steak of imagination.

Of course, there are still ways in which this could be prevented, namely intellectual property being reinforced over the fact that these OpenAI softwares were trained on billions of unfiltered and uncredited raw content from creators who aren't even aware they signed up to be part of this corporate scheme which is essentially aiming to substitute and emulate them.

[Anonymous No.6178507]

>>6178486
so much text only to out yourself as a worthless incapable permabeg who likely also got told by artists to fuck off after requesting free art. Not only is this ai soulless shit, people will tell you to fuck off after you tell them "hey guys, look what i did" as you oversaturate various communities with garbage fanart together with the other retards who "think" like you

[Anonymous No.6178511]

>>6178494
>Artists are the niggers of art.
what the fuck did he mean by this? it's not surprising you're also a weebtard. you tasteless fucks should stay away from both the pencil and AI

[Anonymous No.6178512]

>>6178507
>everything you say is bad because i made up an image of you in my mind and you're probably baitingtrolling so whatever you say is doublevoid haha gottem lol lmao
Time will prove me right.
Always did, always will.

Of course, when the times comes to eat your words, you will just feign ignorance, because that's the type of niggers you are.

[Anonymous No.6178515]

>>6178486
>>6178494
Ah, I see now.

I do draw, but I've never really shared it with anyone. I draw because it's meditative and has helped with my depression. Would I like to make money off of it? Sure, who wouldn't want to make money off of a hobby. I don't think I'd be a parasite because of that though. Hell, I'd be happy to draw commissions for free purely as a social thing to do (though I'd need to have a real job to let me continue living of course). I like talking with people and sharing ideas with them.

I've accepted the march of AI. If anything, I'm more worried as a consumer. What will the media landscape look like in the future? Will it all be AI-generated garbage? At least I can find diamonds if I search hard enough now, but those creators are going to be pushed out of the industry potentially.

[Anonymous No.6178519]

>>6178502
>A single press of a button would cook the steak of imagination.
it doesn't matter if it reaches that point (it won't), because art will become worthless if even a 5 year old can do it effortlessly. also, wtf is your analogy. you think shoving in a steak in an oven makes a good steak? your analogy of "fire" and "oven" fits "traditional" vs "digital" more. an AI is more like also having someone cook the steak for you, season it, perfectly time it, etc.

[Anonymous No.6178523]

>>6178511
>i have nothing to say so i will clutch on anime bad and post a wojack
ironically, you have no right to talk about anything
>>6178515
And who the fuck asked you to post your life story?
>What will the media landscape look like in the future? Will it all be AI-generated garbage? At least I can find diamonds if I search hard enough now, but those creators are going to be pushed out of the industry potentially.
Not my problem.
Not the AIs problem.
Not the problem of companies using AI.

[Anonymous No.6178527]

>>6178512
>everything you say is bad because i made up an image of you in my mind and you're probably baitingtrolling so whatever you say is doublevoid haha gottem lol lmao
that's what you did, you onions chugging bugman. seems you don't like the pansy can dish it out but can't take it.
>Time will prove me right. Always did, always will
this is the retard who complains about artists being "arrogant". you're nothing.
>Of course, when the times comes to eat your words, you will just feign ignorance, because that's the type of niggers you are.
Yeah, I've been told the same with my job becoming "automated" 7 years ago, yet I still have it and its automation is nowhere in sight. or same with vehicles. if anything, time proved me right so eat shit

[Anonymous No.6178532]

>>6178447
mediocrity is already rewarded and effort is already seen as useless due to market oversaturation. The only thing AI will do is filter out enybody that pursued art for something other than the joy of pursuing it in the first place. The soulless will drop out, kill themselves or become violent, only the ones with soul and the stubborn will remain

[Anonymous No.6178535]

>>6178523
>doubles down by posting more weebshit
do you not understand how invalid is your opinion?it's a red flag, of failure above anything else. you can't draw shit, you wish you did it, you instead crabpost on this general 24/7, you see something that might make everyone else fail so your crabposting days will be over. you latch unto it with hope, but the matter of fact is, you cannot draw and you will never be able to draw, because you're a mindless consumer and not a creator. I think it's pretty obvious right now that this is the case, "messenger"

[Anonymous No.6178538]

>>6178527
>waaaaaaah stop saying things i don't like waaaah soi bugman waaaaaah here's my life story waaaaaaaah ur wrong
nigger, kill yourself
>>6178532
Anon gets it.
>>6178535
>noooooooooo not the anime noooo ur opinion wrong because... it just is ok? crab crab schizo crab
I do warau very much

[Anonymous No.6178542]

>>6178538
>nigger, kill yourself
you're an incoherent retard who isn't making a point.

[Anonymous No.6178543]

Arguing about AI has that "skub vs anti-skub" feel to it. Automation is like a boiling pot. Either's it automating your job now or it's not.

[Anonymous No.6178550]

>>6178542
>waaah i lack reading comprehension or i'm feigning ignorance waaaaah ur not making sense gotcha
If you keep this up the AI will replace you no matter how much you cry.

[Anonymous No.6178557]

>>6178543
>Automation is like a boiling pot
So is the IQ of the average artist.

[Anonymous No.6178563]

>>6178550
inept weebtard cannot even fucking argue. to hell with the AI, you should be gunned down like the freak you are

[Anonymous No.6178568]

>>6178532
Thing is, even the experienced artists will end up adapting to make use of AI if they want to cut time and concentration required to work in the creation process. Right now I see some artists (and even writers) using generated content as a sort of draft, just like pretty much everyone uses minor shortcuts like effect brushes and shading tricks to cut time. But how will this progress in the future? Will artists be reduced to editing a few inconsistent bits out and maybe fixing the shading? Will some editing-tailored AIs allow themselves to export generated pics in a fucking layered models?

If this continues, there'll be a day you see an art you really like, but you won't be able to tell how much human work went into it compared to how much of it is AI-made. I'm already doubting myself every time I see art posted in imageboards, because AI may not have creativity or "soul", but it coming closer to be able to perfectly replicate it at a superficial level. Take a stroll at these Dall-e communities and you will see why picrel is more than enough to fool oneself.

[Anonymous No.6178580]

Normalize posting progress videos, AI can't fake this yet

[Anonymous No.6178592]

>>6178580
>2022
>jiff

[Anonymous No.6178606]

>https://www.reddit.com/r/aiArt/comments/w6j7a4/got_removed_from_other_subs_because_it_was_made/
>redditor was banned from art community by revealing his art was ai-made
Have a look at the sort of people who use Dalle-E 2 seriously. They have artstations accounts where they post purely AI generated content as if it was theirs. They absolutely despise the handmade art from which the AI rips its concepts from. They are salivating at the thought of having their input be considered just as valid of prestige as that of a real artist
>everyone is an artist now
>I think they will come around. If not, the next generation of mods or subs will. It's the story of the Luddites all over again
>Next time don't tell them, it's about time we start converging anyway. Whether you used paintbrush, photoshop, or poetic visualization, it's your art.
>I think attempting to police AI submissions is going to be an uphill battle. As AI gets better, fewer and fewer people will be able to recognize AI generated art. Also what about modified AI art?

[Anonymous No.6178639]

>>6178606
Idiotic people dont realize why they are so

[Anonymous No.6178707]

>>6178606
b-b-b-but the filthy paypig customers won't ever do that... how dare they! They must hate artist and be jealous of their monthly patreon payouts! Stupid albino pol racists!

[Anonymous No.6178716]

>>6178606
holy fuck these people are actual fucking retards
>nooo I did do a lot of work! Did you see how many times I had to press the button to do it for me!? Digital art wasn't accepted at first, just like ai isn't!
they're goddamn brainless button pressers kek

[Anonymous No.6178723]

>>6178716
>art directors
This is great.

[DA8PWX No.6178739]

>>6177083
You reap what you fucking sow.
Maybe if you accepted my kind this wouldn’t be happening.

[Anonymous No.6178749]

>>6178606
This will be accepted as normal art once the gays and women start playing that game and making ai art with "the message"

That's the point of no-return because if you disagree with AI, you must hate women and gays and if you hate women and gays, you're wrong.
And they will all get jobs at companies for being queers and all they do is push a button and get all the fame and riches for being artists.
This is the future you chose.

[Anonymous No.6178800]

>>6178568
personally I don't care where it comes from from. Maybe a /beg/ spent 40 hours polishing the artistic equivalent of a piece of turd, maybe he didn't, I won't grant him imaginary internet points for trying. Effort is subjective for them and unimportant to me, only the end result matters because I'm a consumer at that moment. The moment I grab a pencil and draw is when I become a producer, somebody that makes stuff and the amount of effort that goes into it only matters to me alone, if you believe you are entitled to "making it" in the social sense because you reached an imaginary effort threshold is childlish and nonsensical.
That said, digital art is so far removed from what it originally was because of the tools, shortcuts and supressed redundancies involved that I believe AI inspired or referenced art will become a form of its own and us digital artists will look down on it as it happens with traditional art

[Anonymous No.6178811]

>>6178606
mongrels. Each and every single one of them. Button pushers must be put down and/or castrated. They don't interpret, there's no output, they work like their machines and only react based on trial and error, there's no nuisance, there's no subjective analysis equivalent to that of drawing

[Anonymous No.6178813]

>>6178811
There is more people disagreeing with you.
Guess you're wrong.

I think i will meme the sub and push ai-art as legit simply out of spite

[Anonymous No.6178821]

>>6178749
Unfortunately. Wait for mainstream media to start reporting about the inspiring story of how some nigger who lost both his hands after eating an expired watermelon got to become a real and valid artist and make renderings of cyberpunk wakanda thanks to AI-generated art. If AI goes on unchecked and attracts the interest of even more corporations, you can be sure that it will only take a few coordinated pushes of anecdotes like these to drag the Overton Window to a point where people who drawn manually will be seen as backyards — then be called bigots and canceled if they ever say that their art holds more value than the corporate mass generated ones.

For one, Government could have regulated all of this over ethical concerns like they did to human cloning, but nowadays they're ultimately useless entities when it comes to holding corporations accountable for any mistake that has grown too big to admit, be it in health or technology.

AI used to be seen as an unethical concept. Now it's a grey area. Tomorrow its color is being added to the pride flag.

[Anonymous No.6178834]

>>6178821
>the inspiring story of how some nigger who lost both his hands after eating an expired watermelon got to become a real and valid artist and make renderings of cyberpunk wakanda thanks to AI-generated art
Yeah, but unironically.

Fags still believes they can get between corporations and maximizing their profits because when the corps might see it happen, they will pull the nigger story out of their ass.

Apparently, there is also an AI that makes music, so musicians will be fucked next.
>Government could have regulated all of this over ethical concerns like they did to human cloning
Cloning is one thing and doesn't generate taxes and would be likely abused for organ farming+trafficking if the tech was easily obtainable, selling products like pictures and shit on the other hand, that's fair game because the most taxes are generate by the products sold not through creation.
Don't worry about the govt not going after corporations, they will if the fuck up their taxes.
>AI used to be seen as an unethical concept. Now it's a grey area. Tomorrow its color is being added to the pride flag.
That's the progress you get if you let fags touch children.

[Anonymous No.6178853]

>>6178834
Dunno if you're aware, but OpenAI devs already got a buzzword phrasing prompt to be used to discredit early concern on this issue. Look up both search terms: "Democratization of art" "OpenAI"
Expect this term to be used to an exhaustive degree in the coming years.

Every /ic/ anon should be very conscious that whoever hides behind these faux motives are out there to make you miserable at their expenses. They want a monopoly over your blood.

[Anonymous No.6178884]

>>6178853
I'm aware but i'm not concerned.
I'm still of the opinion that you can't stop this, because the consumers, will consume.

[Anonymous No.6178893]

>>6178811
>>6178813
>buttom-presser Dall-E art director becomes an actual job
>some hoe sucks off a developer and gets hired as one for a big project, becoming extremely popular and advertising "her" "art" all over the industry
>popular artists make a stand and start calling her out
I can already see where this is going.

We all live in hell.

[Anonymous No.6178896]

>>6178893
>We all live in hell.
We already passed that GATE, our world is much worse.

[Anonymous No.6178904]

>>6177083
embrace the future and use new tools, develop new workflows

[Anonymous No.6178905]

>>6178896
AI needs more loomis

[Anonymous No.6178906]

>>6178905
Coomis is enough

[Anonymous No.6178909]

>>6178884
Pretty friggin epic r/ArtAI meme!

Edit: psst, here's a gold kind stranger

[Anonymous No.6178914]

>>6178909
edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger
edit2: as a trans woman of color with ostreoporosis and chained to a wheelchair i must say i'm very touched by the overwhelming.
edit3; get smacked, nazis!

[Anonymous No.6178928]

>>6178909
How did you edit a post on 4chan? I didn't know you could do that.

[Anonymous No.6178939]

>>6178928
you need at least a silver badge

[Anonymous No.6178942]

Reminder that everyone on /ic/ is actually up against these people who get featured in galleries

AI is the least of your problems

[Anonymous No.6178944]

>>6177083
watch this shit immediately become outlawed as disney and nintendo collectively shit their pants alongside every major government paranoid about deepfakes
and then whatever remains of it ends up costing a small fortune because it will always be a subscription model and they'll demand a percentage of whatever you make off it, placing it out of reach of anyone who isn't a AAA dev and/or hollywood film studio.

[Anonymous No.6178955]

>>6178944
>ai will cause art and entertainment industries to collapse
>some of the biggest companies in the world will have to be anti-ai to save themselves
is there hope?

[Anonymous No.6178958]

>>6178955
>AI will cut costs and up profits
>"yeah, let's hope a company decides to keep losing money"
sasuga retard

[Anonymous No.6178959]

>>6178811
based and redpilled, in minecraft

[Anonymous No.6178962]

>>6178955
nah.
disney/nintendo wouldn't want anyone to make a picture of minnie mouse sucking off peach's futa dick so they'll push through registration that says if your AI learned from content that's copywritten/trademarked then you need permission and/or to state credit.
they can't stop small-time artists from drawing it but they can sure as hell stop anything automated from making money

[Anonymous No.6178964]

>>6178942
These people are living in an elitist and niche art bubble far away from us though. AI will seek to completely devour and synthesize the average poster's portfolio first before it even makes a scratch on the career of people who are already set for life making millions because they got intellectual avaliators as friends

[Anonymous No.6178968]

>>6178944
I'm surprised the insane amount of nip mangaka and general artists still haven't taken a stance on this. I suppose it's all a matter of when the AI surpasses waifulabs' and becomes a legitimate threat to their living. There are also radical copyright enforcer brands like Nintendo there

[Anonymous No.6178982]

>>6178958
Companies like Sony, Microsoft, Capcom will still opt for traditional artists and designers because of their own spheres of influence and fame built inside these brands. Theoretically, the possibility of replacing every single one of them with Dall-E could be real, but due to the way it's accelerating so fast, in a few years it's sure to say that this project will inevitably crash head on with all these big name designers who still have jobs and a roadmap of projects in the industry. Whoever has better lawyers is a separate issue, but depending on results repercussions may carry on forever

[Anonymous No.6178984]

>>6178968
humans are famous for not dealing with a problem until it's already a problem.

[Anonymous No.6178993]

>>6178968
>>6178984
Also it's famous for companies to wait until the first actual proof rather than anything preemptive so that their case is stronger; especially if the "proof" makes a lot of money because it means they can sue for a cut, too.

[Anonymous No.6178994]

>>6178984
I'm putting this quote on my manifesto

[Anonymous No.6179005]

>>6178466
>I have seen these posts before and it comes across as seething at the idea of an artist making money off his skill.
If your skill can be replicated by a machine, then there is no reason under capitalism for people to pay you any different than they pay the machine.
By the way, why do you call it "seething"? Would you say that artists who create repetitive, machine-replicable works are seething at the idea of people keeping the money they earned instead of giving it to them?

[Anonymous No.6179016]

>>6178606
>that deviant art page
they all generate the same bubblegum looking twisted shit. how are these faggots actually real? "look at me, I'm an artist now, with 0 effort" the pettiness of humans know no bounds.

[Anonymous No.6179021]

>>6177083
>>6178606
>>6178716
Do you guys think making this a rule would increase the quality of the board, and make it a much better place for everyone, or should we not censor those we disagree with?

Pic related is an edit I made btw, NOT A REAL RULE.

[Anonymous No.6179024]

>>6178486
Is this a projection+bias confirmation coming from crippling insecurity and low IQ?

[Anonymous No.6179025]

>>6178716
technically speaking the AI made the art, and they're just commissioning the AI. so in the end, it won't fucking matter lmao. it's not like these low IQ retards will replace AI, they'll just flood the internet with abstract looking trash. the AI itself is the issue

[Anonymous No.6179032]

>>6179005
I call it seething because of how specifically mad these people get at artists making money off their artwork. The discussion of AI seems circumstantial, they're just mad at artists in general. Like, who shat in their stocking, y'know?

>>6179021
I think we're better off just ignoring threads like these, or at least obvious baits. I think discussions about AI akin to "what if it replaces us?" are pointless since it can be applied to anything. Yes, I suppose AI could replace me, too, in 10 years. I don't know if I'd censor such a stupid discussion though.

[Anonymous No.6179035]

>>6179005
I, too, am pro-Judaism.

[Anonymous No.6179042]

>>6177083
By the time machines can actually make artists obsolete, they'll be making a lot of other things obsolete too. It's not specifically artists who should be scared, its everyone.

[Anonymous No.6179051]

>>6179042
Yeah, I'm naive when it comes to machine learning, but from my understanding it's all progressing at a somewhat "equal" rate across the board. Machine learning powerful enough to replace all artists would be sufficiently powerful to replace most jobs in all other fields. At least ones that can be done on a computer.

The future is bleak. Might as well do what you love doing now, and definitely find ways to invest what money you have.

[Anonymous No.6179057]

>>6179005
If you main argument is "le capitalist world = capitalist rules deal with it", then you should also value the importance of intellectual property, no? Well, this AI has the potential to memorize any level of skill — the purpose of each brush or stroke — on a meta level, and it's improving daily with the objective that one day there will be no skill that it cannot replicate.

If It is currently able to paint anything in Van Gogh's style and even convincing alternatives of Starry Night, should he be called an amateur and therefore have his paintings rightfully reduced to a value of 0.1 because AI is replicating it? It won't matter whether you're a crappy or an excellent artist; Whatever you do is still just patterns of colored pixels being transported to a database, which will have no trouble reproducing it after it scans through your art once.

The fact that it completely loses its utility if there were to be no art on the internet is quite telling though. One could try to argue that this gigantic tech conglomerate is just as valid as any human artist for using others' works as reference, but does the concept of "reference", "inspiration" on a human-to-human basis extends to the meta level of analysis which AI has, with no barrier of technique, time, or emotion required to reproduce art, only processing power? I don't think so. Dall-E is neoplagiarism at its finest

[Anonymous No.6179063]

>>6179057
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.6179064]

>>6179035
As expected, you don't have any counter-arguments and immediately jump for the laziest idiot's response. And you want your whining to be treated seriously?

[Anonymous No.6179069]

>>6179064
>cannot pick up the subtle intentions behind phrases
>does not understand the intricacies of human language an nature
No wonder why you worship the hypothetical capabilities of machines.

[Anonymous No.6179076]

>>6179035
Give in to the simulacrum. Let our ai harvest your creativity, knowledge, lifestyle, thoughts, organs and DNA under pretenses of funny photod. Give up

[Anonymous No.6179080]

>>6179057
>If you main argument is "le capitalist world = capitalist rules deal with it", then you should also value the importance of intellectual property, no?
"Intellectual property" is an impediment to progress of art, invented by capitalists.
>Well, this AI has the potential to memorize any level of skill — the purpose of each brush or stroke — on a meta level, and it's improving daily with the objective that one day there will be no skill that it cannot replicate.
This AI, if you had actually spent any time reading the research papers instead of schizo ramblings of /ic/, can barely handle managing descriptions of objects in a coherent way, confusing the number of objects in the descriptions, their relative sizes, etc.
>If It is currently able to paint anything in Van Gogh's style and even convincing alternatives of Starry Night, should he be called an amateur and therefore have his paintings rightfully reduced to a value of 0.1 because AI is replicating it?
First, van Gogh's paintings are real physical artifacts. Their value does not lie merely in their looks, not even for the major part. Second, you'd have to be pedestrian to confuse an original van Gogh with the images produced by either Dall-E 2 or Imagen.
>It won't matter whether you're a crappy or an excellent artist; Whatever you do is still just patterns of colored pixels being transported to a database, which will have no trouble reproducing it after it scans through your art once.
There is literally no scientific basis for believing this end-is-neigh doomsaying. The "AI is just about to become human-like" argument has literally been repeated for decades. Company PR and optimistic technologists were just as convinced in 80s as they are now that general AI is just around the corner. None of it has come true so far.
>I don't think so. Dall-E is neoplagiarism at its finest
If a human could superficially replicate so many styles, would you say the same?

[Anonymous No.6179083]

>>6179063
The person behind this generation as far as I know heavily edits these images in photoshop, touching them up a lot, and in/outcropping back in dall-e. He presents them as Dall-E creations, and I'd almost call him insincere, but I only know about it since he admits to it in the comments usually.

[Anonymous No.6179087]

>>6179069
There is no subtle intricacy in your garden-variety antisemitism. Your attempt to sound smart after being called out is as ridiculous as your jumping to conclusion that I worship machines, which is the opposite of my view.

[Anonymous No.6179091]

>>6179080
>you rambling schizo AI can barely handle anything IT WONT EVOLVE past dall-e mi... dall-e 2
You're being obtuse on purpose. I should've guessed from your first post.

[Anonymous No.6179099]

>>6177083
I will draw

are you retarded or something?

[Anonymous No.6179100]

>>6179099
based

[Anonymous No.6179109]

>>6179099
/thread

[Anonymous No.6179130]

Every AI threads across the universe
>AI bad because it steals by mixing images and producing new ones
>Artists not bat when he does the same
>AI bad because it uses copyrighted works to make new ones
>Artist not bad when he does the same
>AI bad because it earns money......... which could have gone in the artist's pockets
>Artists not bad when he takes commission someone else could have done better
>AI bad.... because it will make it impossible for artist to farm clout and get money from autists by drawing fotm anime girl but nude
>AI bad... because no one likes my abstract paintings
>AI bad... because companies are greedy
>AI bad.... because they just hate artists and are jealous of how much we earn you must be so mad n-n-n-no i'm not the one who is crying YOU ARE
>AI bad... because it just is ok?
>Artist good when he cheats, he traces and pretends to be someone he's not just to appeal children, autists, made up sexualities and porn addicts for clout and monetary gain
You got outplayed at your own game by a computer program and you can't handle it.

[Anonymous No.6179135]

Also
>capitalism bad because corporations bad
>pls give ME money for my work I must make money from my work or it's unfair
Delusional hypocrites

[Anonymous No.6179220]

>>6177083
Human bros... we got too cocky.
https://youtu.be/jJxS8GmV5hg

How long until art AI robots, start breaking our hands, so they can get ahead of the competition? I'm legit shaking right now lads.

[Anonymous No.6179307]

>>6179220
>mog the ngmi AI with my superior Loomis
>it breaks my hands in retaliation
It's over for us crabs.

[Anonymous No.6179341]

>>6179083
This would be soothing if the described process wasn't even more worrying. Minor inconsistencies like that fluttery cogs aside The fact that he only took 2 hours to touch up the colors and generate more parts for the art to turn out like that means an amateur photoshopper can now be just as good as the average artist.

[Anonymous No.6179343]

>>6177083
i dont get the alarm lol, that tool seems really cool for helping with color palettes of different environments and general lighting. could be really useful to people who actually draw instead of those whining about a boogeyman taking the jobs they don't have

[Anonymous No.6179370]

>>6177083
when they learn to make good loli anime art I'm going to find a wife and become a riajuu

[Anonymous No.6179376]

>>6179343
I am a designer and I'm legitimately concerned about this, so don't go projecting your lack of succes onto others. Turns out people can make a living from things they like to draw, but even that now is under risk of being a impossible thing for you or any other human to achieve in the future

[Anonymous No.6179387]

can someone share the pirated program? I want to TRACE the backgrounds for my art

[Anonymous No.6179430]

Someone PLEASE send this pic to Nintendo

[Anonymous No.6179527]

>>6179341
>amateur photoshopper can now be just as good as the average artist
I dunno, that's always been the case with photobashing. It's not like his photoshopped generation is even close to finished anyway, let alone too interesting. It'll just be another tool/method that people will continue to argue whether it's cheating or not.

[Anonymous No.6179541]

>>6179376
If it makes anyone feel any better we're all in the same boat in the future. We'll all probably be too busy being ungovernable and forcing our governments to unconsolidate the wealth big corporations have. The only response to the AI future will have to be radical. Our current society isn't built for it.

Hmm, maybe that wasn't such a reassuring take, but I guess my philosophy isn't to tear myself up too hard about it. We might be living in the best times before a Deus Ex-esque future comes upon us, so might as well make the best of it now.

[Anonymous No.6179547]

>>6179541
Out of all the aesthetic genres I could have been born in, I rolled a cyberpunk dystopia. Then again, being born as a peasant in a dark fantasy setting would suck a lot too.

...Maybe I should just embrace the meme and get into law enforcement.

[Anonymous No.6179548]

>>6177083
It will only affects realismfag

[Anonymous No.6179589]

>>6179527
I agree that identifiable collage will always be inferior to whatever else is available, especially because it often doesn't follow a consistent unique style between the photoshopper's works. The thing that made me care the most about art until now is how unique styles can be created and maintained as a testament to one's creative identity. My admiration for every artist's trace is what made me want to become one. And My biggest fear was already made true: AI can copy someone's style.

Dalle 2 can do it to an extent, and other AIs too though more primitively. What will happen the day someone with a public portfolio writes "[...] Drawn by [Me]" and presses enter on a generator, only to see something he never recalled drawing ever before, but could have very well been drawn by himself? Would he think he truly made it, or that it is the AI's application of his methods? His thoughts process would come full circle and some bizarre depersonalization episode would ensue. If or when AI reaches such a state, the consequences are simply way too terrible to even imagine.

[Anonymous No.6179616]

>>6179589
Yes. You've put this in words I've wanted to write before. I'm not *too* intimidated by the existence of AI art. It makes the future of the craft somewhat uncertain, and it's in my human nature to be fearful towards it, but what really bothers me is the idea of machine learning 100% copying an artist's style
To me, art is a form of deep, personal human communication, a way for an artist to put their soul into their work. Some people want to transcend their mortal flesh and become machines, but for some artists creating artwork is their equivalent of that. It's kind of hard to put it into words, but there's a lot of gay existential/philosophical stuff going on that really matters to me.

It's best not to worry about it though. I don't think we're there yet, and I don't think it'll come as soon as some people think. I certainly won't pretend that I can say it'll never happen, but it's best not to spend too much time thinking about it. It's like stressing over our mortality. Sometimes it's best to just enjoy what we have now and bide the bumps life brings us.

[Anonymous No.6179724]

>>6178580
And this is useful to what company and how?

[Anonymous No.6179751]

>>6179541
>Our current society isn't built for it.
What do you mean? It's not like social security isn't a thing and you're going to end up on the streets?
Filthy rich people always existed and as long as the government pays for your basic necessities like food water and shelter it's not like the existence of rich people is anything away from you. AI means the corporations can make money more efficiently than before which directly leads to more taxes the goverment can turn into social security for the displaced workers. You'll just have more time to make the kind of art you actually want (instead of the bullshit the corporate wants you to do, I get the feeling hardly anyone here has an actual job as an artist, you have no idea) and if you don't feel like making art for free then it's all fair, you have all the free time to do what you actually want to do instead then. If you need funding for your project you can still beg from the government like fine artists already do.
Feels weird for me to defend this shit, even with slight sarcasm, since I was always a hardcore anti-tax libertarian, but in the real world we don't live in the Ayn Rand utopia anyway and even I can see that maybe that kind of societal order wouldn't make sense in a post AI, post robotics world.

[Anonymous No.6179798]

>>6178302
We shouldn't ban a topic about art that disturbs you just because it disturbs you : as a human you should be able to defend your position and prove you're morevaluable than lines of code...

[Anonymous No.6179989]

>>6179751
I just don't think our current system is strong enough to take the impact of a total AI replacement. You'll have them dragging their feet until people make a huge stink about it, and it's hard to tell how big it'll blow up.

Well, maybe *my* country will handle it better, but who knows what America will do when the time comes.

[Anonymous No.6180024]

Become a creative writer janny/astroturf OP for 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6180051]

>>6180024
niggers are black! dont you get it?

[Anonymous No.6180057]

>>6179798
>shouldn't ban a topic about art that disturbs you just because it disturbs you
where's the loli porn thread again?

[Anonymous No.6180063]

>>6177083
>DUUDE whats the point of cooking for yourself when machines can make food?
>DUUDE whats the point of walking when machines can move you around?
>DUUDE whats the point of breathing when a machine can do it for you?

[Anonymous No.6180088]

>>6180057
>disagreeing with me is the same as being a pedo

[Anonymous No.6180164]

>>6179130
you will never be an artist. you will never learn to draw. you will never understand how a drawing works and what causes its illusion. people will sigh that you're yet another retard who floods communities with their shitty ai "fanart" because you're looking for undeserved praise. you're a consumer loser who tried to take a shortcut, and thus you'll die a failure

[Anonymous No.6180168]

>>6180063
>what's the point in paying you when a bot can do it for free

[Anonymous No.6180176]

>>6179130
>>AI bad because it steals by mixing images and producing new ones
>>Artists not bat when he does the same
>>AI bad because it uses copyrighted works to make new ones
>>Artist not bad when he does the same
I know this is in bad faith, but you're still retarded just in case you believe that literally mashing pictures together and using reference is the same

[Anonymous No.6180183]

>>6180176
whoa. if you can prove that image generators are just "mashing images", you deserve a Turing Award

[Anonymous No.6180184]

>>6177083
I am obselete regardless even if AI would not exist. I am replacable and in fact you wouldn't even need to replace me. The world would be just fine without my art. And yet I do it anyways. You guys have a weird narcissistic and grandiose self image if you fear that technology. The fact that you can make a living with art is not because you are so special, but because our civilization is wealthy and life is comparatively safe and comfy. The fact that some 5yo Chinese kid can make perfect cast drawings is irrelevant, so is what Ai is capable of doing. You were never special to begin with, but you will still find a way to live as an artist as long as civilization stays as wealthy as it is. What outside factors will actually affect your art career are inflation, economy, food and war.

[Anonymous No.6180188]

>>6179024
Nailed it.

[Anonymous No.6180199]

>I'm so insecure I have to post my retardation on 4chan, now everyone think artists are pussies.

I bet this is the same genes than:
>I'm a looser in everything. I can't do nothing. So I'll take the hardest way and become an artist!

When will you stop hurting others? I mean, if you have pink hair and you shop with a plug in your ass or if you're too dumb to line up two words, then, become a salesman, a cashier or a mason and if the craftsmen etc have chased you away, who told you that art is free? Go break something else somewhere else, it's been going on for a century. Pay attention to your image fags, because it's not the FUTURE AI that makes you poor TODAY.

[Anonymous No.6180207]

>>6180164
That picture condenses /ic/'s autism so aptly, it's kind of an achievement
congrats if it's yours: you're truly a master-baiter. hope it wasn't unironical

[Anonymous No.6180232]

>>6180176
>this is bad faith... because it is
>makes a retarded argument
I know this is bait but i will answer you anyway to show how much of a retard you are:
>What is referencing?
Referencing is taking a picture, mixing it with other pictures or taking out some elements from other pictures to fit your needs and create a new picture.
>What does the AI do?
The AI takes the keywords and uses images from its database to construct a new image using other images as references to suit its needs and create a new picture.
AI removes the human element and speeds up the process.

And you can't get out of your post not being bait; because if it really isn't, you missed the points so fucking bad and showed how actually ignorant and mentally challenged you are.

Seek suicide or gtfo the board, nigger.

[Anonymous No.6180282]

>>6180207
It condenses human nature, it's how we attribue value to things. The comment is a tweet about a game journalist cheating a video game to beat it, getting mocked by the entire internet. We attribue such concepts even to video games let alone craftsmanship. How do you cope with being inept?

[Anonymous No.6180292]

What's with the string of faggot/bait posts itt today? Yesterday had a lot of good takes on this topic

[Anonymous No.6180304]

>>6180282
>>6180282
it has everything wrong with /ic/ permabegs: the hypocritical moral superiority; the thinly veiled panic of failure disguised as self imposed handicaps, the envy and resentment towards people that actually can do shit, etc
>video games
that would make it even more pathetic, if that were possible

[Anonymous No.6180360]

>>6180292
That's just /ic/.

[Anonymous No.6180363]

>>6180292
4chan is a whole different beast on weekdays
not sure which one is worse, really

[Anonymous No.6180369]

>>6180360
Yeah. Sometimes I like to return to this board because of the resources, but the crabs here are fierce.

[Anonymous No.6180395]

>>6180363
it's more bland and mainstream on weekends, no doubt, but it's becoming tamer and tamer every year, even on weekdays

[Anonymous No.6180502]

>>6179616
>it's best not to spend too much time thinking about it. It's like stressing over our mortality. Sometimes it's best to just enjoy what we have now and bide the bumps life brings us.
I completely agree, but it just so happens that we were all artists, musicians, writers unlucky enough to try to flourish when being faced in the horizon with the the worst moment ever for Humanities to go through since the dawn of mankind. It's like waking up, noticing there's an ever-increasing abyss growing beneath you, and the only thing you can do right now is contemplating about it or going on with your day.

[Anonymous No.6180517]

>>6180502
i've heard some painters were just as dramatic when photography became popular
some kinds of ilustration work will dissappear, and new ones will flourish, but is has been like that for whole history of arts

[Anonymous No.6180547]

This board needs flags. Too many retarded posts.

[Anonymous No.6180570]

>>6180547
flags have a decent correlation to intelligence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgxfQXdoS0)) but then again, artist types usually have highly substandard IQs

[Anonymous No.6180571]

>>6179130
It's always been
>Wah unfair I should win no competition :((((((((((((((((((

You're suppose to draw because you love it, not for profit.

[Anonymous No.6180583]

>>6180517
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Photography, digital art, and sculpting were all distinct sets of stairs built to reach different yet similar places that were further solidified through schools of technique. AI is currently being trained with the objective that it can turn into an elevator that can jump to anywhere at the push of a button, but in the end, it won't have anywhere new to go either because its ideal state is being able to perfect human imitation and all that has been done by us.

[Anonymous No.6180588]

>>6180502
I feel you, and have been going through it as well, but I'm still going to draw regardless. We have a fearful future ahead regardless of our professions. Potentially. I want to do my best to have a positive outlook, but at the same time thinking of ways to invest the money I earn wisely.

>>6180517
>>6180583
The more I look into ML art, the more I'm starting to lean into this. I don't think photography (and the industrial revolution in particular) are the best comparisons to the AI revolution most of the time, but the limitations of these generations become obvious when you play with them for a bit. Dall-E has a hard time with lots of stylized art that's contemporary nowadays, and Midjourney sort of has this "artstation soup" feel to it. Further iterations might/will improve them, but who can say when. I'm seeing the diminishing returns issue that plagues all machine learning at the moment, but it's not like I can predict even one year into the future either.

Who can say.

[Anonymous No.6180627]

will button pressors ever stop larping as artists?
I keep seeing them talk about how artists are prestigious fucks for not accepting them as artists. I would laugh but the thoughts of techtards automating art keeps me up at night

[Anonymous No.6180641]

>>6180627
Most artists don't see each other as artists lmao. Welcome to the club, but not really. Haha.

[Anonymous No.6180647]

>>6180588
Obvious moment but that artstation feel is because most environmental fantasy pictures it categorizes its concept application after origintes from all the artstation accounts fed to the AI, so that's basically going to be the 'default' style for most non-irl pictures AI generates unless the person asks for a more specific fantasy style. It's ironic that the AIs with the promise to liberate creativity will kill any drive of all those big portfolio open-for-commission artists to draw more scenarios when they become second choice to being hired.

And just like that, as we'll see increasingly AI generated art in the future and less human one it will essentially begin to drawn concepts from itself. Create potential locked in a hamster wheel is the dumbest but truest scenario I can think of.

[Anonymous No.6180680]

>>6180627
>post this 10 years foward
>CIAI-4 hacks into your computer and suspends your metaverse wallet due to having committed an artism offense
>Dall-e 25 produces a perfect portrait of your face based on your choice of words and puts you in the wanted database for opensource AIs to hunt you down
>a robot dog breaks into your house and drones appear on the window aiming laser sights at your face
>a boomer cop comes and arrests you, AI was prohibited from arresting humans over ethical concern after all
>you fall unconscious but wakes up in a medical pod room
>you look at your hands
>all your fingers have been replaced by mechanical ones made with silicone with OpenAI smart hips inside
>everything you draw or type will now be decided by AI

[Anonymous No.6180687]

>>6180680
>silicon valley desperately trying to convince people that this is an innovation for humanity
future isn't looking to bright

[Anonymous No.6180726]

>>6180687
They say you can't stop innovation, just like you can't stop falling once you meet a steep cliff? On a meta level, that greentext could have very well been made by an AI if it wasn't for the grammar mistakes. Maybe people will do typos on purpose in the future.

[Anonymous No.6180742]

Oh my GOD, it's not even close. I can't believe I was going full doomer there for a while. I've been making use of the main art generators and it's such a hassle to even get anything remotely "close" to the inputs I put in, and don't get me started on how the upscaling shreds any fidelity that might be generated. Feeding these generators wide, generic prompts seems to get better results, but they all have hard time handling any *actual* creative input. Either the image falls apart or the machine just gives up and half-asses it.

The optimistfags were right. This will just be merged with the stock photo industry. I can see people being paid minimum wage to shuffle through thousands of images each day to find some gems that could be bundled together as reference pictures. I can't see an artist paid a decent salary in the current industry being told to waste man hours pressing buttons until something 1/10th decent shows up to work with for a specified, detailed project. I imagine big media companies will have to make their own massive databases for work specifically-trained for their media.

Who knows what the future holds for this tech, I'm sure I'll shit my pants down the road, but that's the future. For now I'll be sleeping easier tonight, and you doomerfags should too.

[Anonymous No.6180762]

>>6180726
No, AI won't be able to do any type of non-allowed speak/imagery.
Basically, if you say nigger and draw racists caricatures, you're human.

[Anonymous No.6180775]

>>6180742
>Either the image falls apart or the machine just gives up and half-asses it.
You are correct, the AI's biggest problem is said to be resources constraint like computing power to be able to reduce random abstraction to a minimum. The fact that it won't be able to make 2k images so soon (or charge a lot for it) until corporations can profit reasonably without burning up that many trees in electricity fees is what gives the current art hub a spiked border wall to prevent "people" like picrel from entering virtual galleries. Though no one knows how many lines of code it will take to optimize the bot, so you should make a good use of your time while you are objectively on top.

[Anonymous No.6180801]

Resolution does seem to be a big limitation, could CSP and other canvas software buy time for their userbase amid AIpocalypse by allowing them to draw with 4k/8k/16k brush sizes and above?

[Anonymous No.6180869]

>>6180775
>"people"
What do you mean by "people", is it because he's a plebbitor, or do you believe that he's a robot or something?

[Anonymous No.6180879]

Bros... Midjourney V3 is out.
Pretty good update, Faces can often be much more coherent now.
Just grabbed a selection of pics from the show and tell. It's open beta now.

[Anonymous No.6180901]

>>6177083
Today only the person who no longer believes in a happy ending, only he who has consciously renounced it, is able to live. A happy century does not exist; but there are moments of happiness, and there is freedom in the moment

[Anonymous No.6180905]

>>6180879
at this point im not even annoyed anymore by AI doomers

but i am beginning to get pretty annoyed by certain people ive seen on both discord, twitter and retardediit who are acting as "artists" with their ai created images

will we have to deal with more and more people especially normies who know nothing of any kind of art field begin to pretend and even demand to be seen as artists for their ai generated images? at this point the only purge i see happening in the future is the purge of those who only use ai and act as if they had done anything, even permabeg/s are gonna receive praise for at least trying to draw something themselves

[Anonymous No.6180906]

>>6180879
It's hard to get good results if you try to specify details, in my experience.

[Anonymous No.6180910]

>>6180906
>if you try to specify details
Midjourney tends to fall short in this regard most of the time imo

[Anonymous No.6180928]

>>6177083
pick the best ai right now ad try to fill requests on drawthreads and see if you can get a remotely good result

doing generic photobashed shit anyone can do, but actually constructing a scene with some interaction or story going on based on a specific concept is harder

same thing goes for being able to ask the ai to draw the shit from specific perspectives and compositions and other shit like that

when ai can at least fill the requests o 4chan drawthreads i will begin to be a little impressed, until then, it all just seems like another tech fad trying to get investors to waste millions and run with the money

[Anonymous No.6180934]

>>6180879
Well, fuck.

[Anonymous No.6180941]

>>6180906
Prompt for that image? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.6180949]

>>6180928
>it all just seems like another tech fad trying to get investors to waste millions and run with the money
For these current generations? Yeah, I get that feel with Dall-E in particular. This tech will get really impressive in the future though. I don't think anyone can make a knowledgeable guess on when though.

[Anonymous No.6180969]

>>6180905
creating poignat art was always about having good tastes first, and a good curated inspiration gallery
if someone's able to consistently produce compelling outputs using this new software, i will consider him as a good artist, in the same sense i consider so a good photographer, or someone that poses and renders 3d models: the skill for making decent strokes by hand is not the endgame of all visual arts

[Anonymous No.6180978]

>>6180969
photographers have to know their shit, from composition to lighting, color, the tech side aswell, it isnt point and click

for 3D i think i dont even need to explain, it is more complex than trad sculpting by a mile

now, having an ai do everything for you without you having ay real skill or knowledge, yeah i will never consider that artistic in the slightest

using ai as just another tool similar to how a 2D artist may use photobashing and 3D models is fine

but thinking someone is an artist and deserves any respect with regards to artist ability cuz they can write half a dozen words and have a computer to all the work for them is completely stupid

the fact you even use photography and 3D as some sort of comparison is an insult to photographers and 3D artists ad it shows you dont know what youre talking about

[Anonymous No.6180999]

>>6180978
That's a very weird concept of art
My only criteria for a good artist is someone that can create good art. It doesn't matter how many hours he spent making it or how painful the process was
Now, if everybody becomes able to produce decent art using these new tools, then everybody will need to adjust the criteria of what constitutes "good" art, but that would be a net win for humankind as a whole, no need to get mad about it

[Anonymous No.6181000]

>>6180941
"Stylish gauche painting of an asian man with a short beard, wearing a black robe with a light brown tube neck, one eye is closed with dark black makeup, plain bright red background, 4k HD, Trending on Artstation"

[Anonymous No.6181007]

>>6180999
the problem is that they didn't make the art. They commissioned the ai to do it. The prompt maker makes essentially zero creative decisions, it's the bot that makes all of them. So they wouldn't be the artist, the ai would be the artist
>net win for humankind as a whole
the fuck are you smoking

[Anonymous No.6181013]

>>6181007
if you had certain reading comprehension you'd realize my initial premise was "if someone's able to consistently produce compelling outputs"
now, it seems to me like there's some skill involved in making good prompts with each transformer tool, but only time will tell: even if it's a completely random thing, then the people that invests more time on the tool, or are better at curating the results will produce better art.
how is not getting more good art a win for humankind? is art so worthless for you?

[Anonymous No.6181016]

>>6181013
>some skill involved in making good prompts
ah yes, please explain how skillful this is, no really, please try and do it

[Anonymous No.6181017]

>>6181007
its no use anon, some people are too dumb and shortsighted

[Anonymous No.6181021]

>>6181016
knowing the ins and outs of your tool is part of becoming a master: artisans knew it 1000 years ago, old masters knew it, and every pro that uses photoshop, 3ds max, zbrush or whatever knows it
fundies are just the beginning of the journey, kid

[Anonymous No.6181046]

>>6180941
I don't remember the exact parameters, but I just tried to make someone based on Rich Evans dressed as a "samurai"

[Anonymous No.6181055]

>>6180999
>t. Where molested by "Hole drillers" rape gang as a child
Get over it kid, try to let go of all the dicks in your hands, mouth and asshole atm. You dont need to do it anymore. >>6181013
>>6181021

[Anonymous No.6181058]

>>6181055
lmao, i don't even know what you're trying to say, but okay, let's call it a night. you seem to need some sleep more than me

[Anonymous No.6181064]

>>6181021
you are comparing artisans, photographers, 3D artists etc to just typing half a dozen words into a text box and having your work automatically done for you

are you this retarded?

you still havent answered my question so i will make it again and more specific

make a list side by side of all the skills needed for the various crafts vs skill needed to generate an image with ai and explain how typing a single phrase is at the same level

come on i dare you to even try and justify that stupid logic

you are worse than the doomer shitposters, you are actually delusional

[Anonymous No.6181090]

>>6181064
i told you that i don't give a shit about skill, anon; the only thing that matters is the final result, the fucking art piece. shit's good or not. that's all that matters
don't understand your view point, or your retarded questions, and i don't really care anymore
need to wake up in 3 hours so i'm getting some sleep now. maybe you could take your meds and do the same.

[Hoboanon No.6181093]

>>6181090
Sleep well
*Smooch

[Anonymous No.6181226]

>>6180742
The one people are shitting bricks about is Dall-e 3 which is not available to people outside a small circle of closed beta testers.
Though from what I hear even that one isn't as good as they make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.6181447]

>>6181064
Even AI-directors need to have a good grasp on fundies.
You still have to direct the AI into giving you decent results that tick off all the boxes.

And you're still high on your own ego, you shouldn't even talk about this shit, because your points all boil down to:
>"AI bad because it invalidates all my """"hard work""""" look at how hard i work omg i work so hard pls praise me ooooh hnnnng im working so hard right now!!"

It's always the fucking plain artists complaining the most.
Photographers also don't create their subjects out of nothing, they just put things together and take a picture, which is an automated drawing.
3D artists also don't use strokes and colors to draw and paint backgrounds and characters and do not make a brand new model when they're taking a new picture.
Digital artists don't draw on paper and with real pens and their work isn't tangible so it's not real art.

It's every fucking time something new that makes the artists even more obsolete, they're the ones screeching and claiming the whole world is against them and how hard they work so everyone must give them money and suck their dicks.
Oh, but they're working so hard, such hard workers that rightfully earned everything they have and if you say otherwise, you must be jealous.... just don't mention how willingly they are to cheat and scam and use the exact same tool they demonize, if they themselves can get ahead of everyone else.

[Anonymous No.6181454]

>>6181447
>Even AI-directors need to have a good grasp on fundies.
lmao

biggest cope, pyw,

>>6181090
same pyw

[Anonymous No.6181457]

I switch to traditional art and sculpting again. There will always be a market for that. Rich people who want the real deal will want things made by hand

Anyway, in a world where automation has completely taken over most fields, I have a feeling they’d implement some sort of UBI. Either way nothing to worry about right now. Just draw lol

[Anonymous No.6181458]

>>6181447
its true, it takes 0 skill to type a few words and have a computer do everything for you

saying otherwise is pure cope by people who cant draw or do anything creative

still havent gotten a reply to my question how how it takes any skill and to give examples

all you guys do is dodge the question lmao

[Anonymous No.6181460]

>>6181447
This.

No Art matters until AI-art matters

[Anonymous No.6181470]

>>6181454
Now post yours
>>6181458
>it takes 0 skill to put objects together and photograph them and edit the picture with filter or in ps
>it takes 0 skill to sculpt something in 3D and reusing that asset over and over
>it takes 0 drawing digitally because it's not traditional
>it takes 0 skills because you type words, get images and have to apply your knowledge to tweak the images
>BUT WE ARTIST WORK HARD PLS ONLY GIVE US MONEY AND ATTENTION EVEN WHEN WE CHEAT BUT WE DONT CHEAT IF WE SAY SO BECAUSE WE WORK HARD STOP INVALIDATING US WAAAAH U SUCK AND YOUR ART ISNT ART BECAUSE I SAY SO
And it takes 0 skill to draw something that already exists, so if you never draw something completely original and that has never existed before, you're not an artist.
Studies take 0 skills because you're only copying a picture.

You got plenty of answers, but you're going to keep going until everyone gives up arguing with you, just to keep lying to yourself that you're not going to be replaced by AI.
The one who is coping to the max is you

I'm not going to ask to pyw because you don't draw.

[Anonymous No.6181486]

>>6181470
bruh thats ai generated lmao post work from 0 without your little /beg/ crutches

let me give you a prompt, draw just a simple mannequin in perspective

[Anonymous No.6181488]

>>6181470
>And it takes 0 skill to draw something that already exists,
hmmm thats why you posted ai generated img ad keep arguing with your dumb delusional logic but sure

imma keep doing what i enjoy as many others while you retards keep leeching off that shit lmao

[Anonymous No.6181491]

>>6181486
or better yet, paint some hands on that img

[Anonymous No.6181494]

>>6181470
Where is her left hand?
Why is her left eye bigger than the other?

[Anonymous No.6181512]

>>6181486
>>6181488
>>6181494
>no works posted
>"WOW U POSTED AN AI IMAGE THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PHOTOREALISTIC ANATOMICALLY CORRECT HUMAN GUESS I WON'T HAVE TO ANSWER LMAO"
So, basically, you have no arguments.
And these are the artists trying to decide what is art and what is not art.

You played yourselves.

[Anonymous No.6181521]

>>6178580
>arteests start posting these
>ai is fed with their creation process mp4/gifs/webm
>funny reverse engineering filters patch releases
>"show the creation process made through single sketches/brushes/splashes"
You dumbass arteests are going to pay for trying to gatekeeper art lol thats what you get for trying to rip people with patreons

[Anonymous No.6181525]

It finally occurred to me what I hate about these threads. It erroneously assumes that
>people draw for fame/money
>the integration of AI artist will be fast enough to effect the current generation
>how niche AI is
I myself don't know much about AI. Give or take 2/4 years when I get a masters and I can come back to these threads with more insight to how AI progressing: right now I'm looking at this issue in a more business/non-technical view.
For the first point: there's plenty of people that learn to draw for shits and giggles. Hell, in writing world there's plenty of novelists who have full time jobs. I myself like to make music and shitposts, and I'm an SWE. Even if AI tomorrow replaced all artists tomorrow, there's still be a bunch because it's fun to draw. There's people who still build bridges, are blacksmiths, etc because they enjoy the practice.
AI artists integration in the business world will take time. We are assuming that if a company is able to go to an AI program, tell it "I want X", and the AI is able to create what the client wants. I doubt we will see the needed niche tools for various industries come about, like "indieshit sprite generator" or "album cover generator" coming anytime soon to make an impact on business. Not only that, these services cost money: if the cost/time of developing an AI artwork is too much they'll just go to someone with A) a reputation and B) probably prior connection as a good fit for company.
I think there will be a time when this does come about (I might be the one doing it if my school allows me too and I decided audio programming sounds boring), but not now
Finally, as I alluded to, AI will be niche as hell for business tools. You can't have "general drawer" program that works for animation and games and paintings. Even shit like resolution can be a hassle to implement

I will touch on one more point: fuck off. Find a better hobby then spamming this demoralization shit.

[Anonymous No.6181527]

>>6181512
another ai generated image

oh lord pls tell me this is some sort of reverse trolling to make fun of ai shills, you cant be serious

[Anonymous No.6181536]

>>6179032
>I think we're better off just ignoring threads like these, or at least obvious baits. I think discussions about AI akin to "what if it replaces us?" are pointless since it can be applied to anything. Yes, I suppose AI could replace me, too, in 10 years. I don't know if I'd censor such a stupid discussion though.
I would for there's no real point. If you are working in the industry, threads like this are fake news. I know I go to /g/ and see people spread FUD over programming: I'm still a programmer. If you REALLY care, you would ask your friends in the industry how you feel about it
Not only that, the underlying message of OP is stop doing /ic/. It's a call to not do something you like because "what if AI replaces us".

[Anonymous No.6181537]

>>6181525
>third stage — Bargaining

[Anonymous No.6181541]

>>6181537
>First stage - Denial

[Anonymous No.6181560]

>>6181536
this is the best example of how there is a group of retards who enjoy coming here just to try and discourage people from doing art

and it isnt just negative threads or comments, some of them also only give overly positive feedback to /beg/s in unrealistic way to feed into the persons mistakes and stagnation

its sad really

[Anonymous No.6181561]

>>6181536
Additionally this doomposting appears to be the go-to of people who don't really do that much, if any, art to begin with. For some reason there's a significant amount of people on /ic/ who are constantly looking for excuses to not do what the board is about instead of finding another hobby.

[Anonymous No.6181571]

>>6181525
>I myself don't know much about AI.
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.6181573]

>>6181560
>because others people say bad things, i don't want to do the thing anymore
art is not for you
find another hobby

[Anonymous No.6181752]

>>6177083
Pull the plug xD

[Anonymous No.6183065]

>>6177083
Specialize in drawing the pics on the left hand side to make it generate the best drawings. If the AI will be released for running locally, also charge money for running it because it likely requires large computational resources.

[Anonymous No.6183066]

>>6177083
It already did. I have a 21cm dick and 27cm dildo mounted on a fucking machine.
I don't even care about sex with humans anymore because they're just disappointing. Also I'm considering buying a bigger dong

[Anonymous No.6183179]

Be a starving "artist". Like artists have been in history.

[Anonymous No.6183543]

Is there a way to post sfw art now that won't be absorbed into the AI datasets? Like an overlay that humans don't see but AI does, messing with the way it interprets it.

[Anonymous No.6183585]

>>6183543
Never post it to any social media. Simple. If shit like Dall.e have access to it then you can pretty much forget about it's not being able to use your shit. If you're so worried about being replaced by AI then just get better at your art. Expand from your comfort zone like the crabs here keep telling us.

[Anonymous No.6183587]

>>6183543
draw coom

writing ai is already restricted to safe non porn generation already and image ai is gonna be too, especially when you add the talk of loli or realistic underage depictions into the mix

dont want your art to end up in a database, just draw coom,

[Anonymous No.6183662]

>>6183587
>/ic/ mods fighting loli porn for years
>after the singularity, loli porn will be recognized as the pinnacle of human arts

[Anonymous No.6183667]

>>6183662
unironically, may happen

[Anonymous No.6183693]

>>6183662
not for long. if AI becomes good at making sexy little girls, AI CP somehow will find a way

[Anonymous No.6184181]

>>6183693
Pandora's Box
The next 3-5 years are going to be a sight to behold.

[Anonymous No.6184978]

>>6177083
Use those machines and sell things to people like op who don't know any better.

[Anonymous No.6186134]

>>6184978
bump lmao

[Anonymous No.6186159]

Machines are sadly still terrible at making anime waifus, otherwise I'd gladly let the machines make my shitty fanart for me

[Anonymous No.6186167]

>>6186159
if you don't enjoy doing it, you should consider another hobby instead
machines will never take from anyone the satisfaction of giving your best effort, and becoming a little better at something

[Anonymous No.6186176]

Why are AI schizos like OP always so obsessed with money and jobs?

[Anonymous No.6186185]

>>6186176
that's easy to say when it's not your money or your job

[Anonymous No.6186190]

>>6186185
Drawing is a hobby you stupid idiot. People draw because they enjoy it. Nobody here cares about worthless AI schizo idiots like yourself.

[Anonymous No.6186203]

Innovate. Make things like pic related that couldn't reasonably be recreated by an AI. (Certain artistic elements from this image could come together, but I don't think the emotion of this piece could be done by AI.)

[Anonymous No.6186208]

>>6186190
you are a nigger

[Anonymous No.6186217]

>>6179005
Wonder if we will ever see ai that replaces shareholders

[Anonymous No.6186307]

>>6186159
soon

[Anonymous No.6186583]

>>6177083
>What will you do when machines make you obsolete?
Your mom!

[Anonymous No.6186817]

>>6177083
its literally getting worse. i mean every new example of what ai can do that is posted here is worse than the last. this is absolute dogshit and anyone impressed by it is a clown

[Anonymous No.6186823]

>>6186307
>that midriff
Where are the fags who said this AI wouldn't even come close to sexyness
At this rate i'm just gonna have to trace everything it draws

[Anonymous No.6186828]

>>6186190
90% of jobs in a modern service economy are bullshit glorified hobbies
I want to see who is going to keep consooming their shit once ai takes most jobs and nobody has any income

[Anonymous No.6186829]

can the machines do gay furry porn

[Anonymous No.6186835]

>>6177083
>make you obsolete
obsolete on the computer and the digital world? At last!

[Anonymous No.6186856]

>made a thread about AI
>tried to actually discuss the DALL-E2 thing as realistically as possible (a tool that can be used for thumbnailing and variations)
>retards show up and start panicposting about people losing their jobs
>people start calling retards out and saying the complete opposite
>thread gets deleted
damn /ic/dmins, if you like it this way ok

BTW the "Generate variations" function is pretty interesting

[Anonymous No.6187176]

"Prompt engineers" are a thing now lmao. They're getting paid 80% in royalties to give description texts for this site to sell. Prices between $1,99 to $20 or more. Just how monetized can this shit become?

https://promptbase.com/shop

[Anonymous No.6187258]

New Ross AI kino just dropped: https://youtu.be/EsQgD9yNMxU

He seems to be more for AI, than against AI btw. Thought I'd share it here.

[Anonymous No.6187259]

>>6187258
>left soul
>right soulless
>tfw no down syndrome ai gf

[Anonymous No.6187263]

>>6186856
as usual, /ic/ only cares about memes and culture wars, not tangible, pragmatic stuff
unironically, take that kind of discussion to reddit

[Anonymous No.6187281]

>>6187258
Most of these youtubers will be poisoning the well by posing themselves as indifferent to AI so as to not garner hate from the bigger community of non-artists who use generated images.
Rationalizing. Minimizing. Ignoring major controversies, like the fact that it trains and modifies existing data to produce images, or how so many ill-intentioned business practices like picrel are seeking to capture the medium from artists.
There's no AI that makes YouTube videos yet so of course they can't even feel the hit in the design industry.

[Anonymous No.6187287]

>>6187258
good stuff

[Anonymous No.6187305]

>>6186828
>jobs
There's that word again. You utter idiots just never learn.

Just admit you're a loser who didn't make it and you're using AI as a coping mechanism. No artists are worried about this so you have to keep pushing it to feel better about your embarrassingly awful ability.

[Anonymous No.6187327]

>>6187258
His point is that no one needs to worry about AI since artists will still be responsible for doing some tidbits like adding hair shadows and blushes.
Well, this prediction couldn't be any closer to ingenuity.

Does he think AI will stall there? He isn't even using Dall-E 2 which is on a completely different plane compareed to Midjourneg's stone faced generations. Dall-E 2 can already modify body parts and scenery at prompt demand, so how long until it can be able to add even more support for the specifications he felt necessary to add? "AI is just a tool" angle is certainly not an accurate take for the future of the industry

[Anonymous No.6187353]

>>6187327
You are not an artist, idiot. Your input is worthless.

[Anonymous No.6187391]

>>6187327
Smart people try to live in the here and now
Is equally stupid panicking about shit nobody can predict, and living in denial while other people are taking advantage of the new tools

[Anonymous No.6187400]

>>6179220
Dark triad AI. Best way to win is to not let your opponent play.

[Anonymous No.6187569]

>>6187305
>No artists are worried about this
extremely unlikely, this is highly disruptive technology, also I think you meant to write 'no artist is'

>>6187391
>Smart people try to live in the here and now
yes, but smart people also prepare for future

[Anonymous No.6187583]

firebomb the nearest transformer substation

[Anonymous No.6187584]

>>6187569
>extremely unlikely
You wouldn't know, idiot. You're not an artist.

[Anonymous No.6187646]

>>6187583
who could have imagined that the transformers would become the bad guys at the end?

[Anonymous No.6187788]

>>6187584
You can't successfully argue that no pro artist is worried about influence of this technology;
all I need is to give you just one person who makes their living by using their skill in art and is troubled by AI to discredit this claim.

You might try individual cases with a no-true-scotsman, but eventually you will be forced to shift goalposts and downgrade it to 'tiny minority'.
>haha, dumb idiot
>very few is the same as none, that's obviously what it meant
I'm really not interested in this discussion.

The question of AI art effects on culture, society and industry would make for fantastic conversation, just not with (You).

[Anonymous No.6188803]

>>6177083
that nvidia thing kinda looks like crap, though

[Anonymous No.6188886]

>>6187258
This is the reason this guy is making serious cash, while /ic/ is full of resentful permabegs

[Anonymous No.6188907]

>>6179042
This is what i’m fucking furious at: lawyers, judges, politicians or any paper pushing bullshit jobs can be taken over by an AI any day of the time. But hey, let’s substitute those with skills in architecture, engineering or art, what a fucking wonderful fucking world where most jobs are taken over by the AI, but not the jewish ones.

[Anonymous No.6188941]

>>6187327
He also downplayed Midjourney's current output level, by poisoning the portrait generation with the Anime keyword, how would his video go if he'd generated faces like in
>>6180879

[Anonymous No.6189031]

>>>/g/ maybe?

[Anonymous No.6189043]

>>6187788
>You can't successfully argue that no pro artist is worried about influence of this technology;
Except I can, because they don't.

AI Schizo idiots like yourself keep pushing it, but nobody cares; you're either laughed at or ignored.

[Anonymous No.6189071]

>>6189043
pretty sure this >>6187258 ross trans guy is considered a pro. are you gonna deny it? checkmate, atheists

[Anonymous No.6189075]

>>6189071
I'm not watching any of your youtube shill videos.

There isn't a single artist "scared" of AI. You are just a worthless, moronic schizo, and a failed artist looking for coping mechanisms.

[Anonymous No.6189080]

>>6178550
post your work faggot LMAO

[Anonymous No.6189082]

>>6189075
there aren't any artists in your ass, take your head out of it if you wanna see anything

[Anonymous No.6189255]

>>6189082
or are they?

[Anonymous No.6189371]

The only good thing to have come from this corporate bullshit is that the critical signs appeared right when I was considering joining college for graphical design, so I pretty much dodged an elephant bullet by holding drawing in no higher regard than a hobby. I can't imagine how mortifying seeing these Dalle pics must be for someone who is cursing art rn and seriously hoping to make a living out of it.

While I'm a bit chill on the outside knowing the situation could be way worse for me, I can't figure out where to invest my time for a job now either since this AI is also learning to code. I could waste time learning IT only for AGI to come out in a few years and take the place of the blockchain pajeets themselves. Professions with way too many accidental variables for AI like truckers' could ironically be the last remaining ones.

[Anonymous No.6189513]

>>6189371
blue collar work is a wise call, bu trucker is a terrible idea when self driving cars are like a decade ahead according to people in the know

[Anonymous No.6189616]

>>6189513
True though self-driving tesla gadgets are still somewhat a decade far from being truly Implemented when there are things like broken roads everywhere outside their tech cities and the bound-to-happen malfunctions of early models. Anyway, the entire internet right now seems like a rigged game with these AIs appearing someday and openly monopolizing every byte of data you have just because yes. OpenAI is also just a chain project of bigger roadmaps like Metaverse, which means we'll be seeing even more digital compromising arise from hereon.

[Anonymous No.6189652]

>>6189616
Metaverse sounds cool, that's how i want to spend my last days, no idea why everybody hates on that

[Anonymous No.6189847]

>>6189652
Metaverse is a gayer version of Second Life built from the corporate wet dream of having users going for online shopping and buying some immaterial meta table nft for 1000$ to decorate their house. It's heading to failure though since besides hemorrhaging investment costs, one must buy an specific and overpriced VRset to play it and even so there's nothing in the works that will bring normalfags to want to try it out (no sex, no drugs, no irl pets, ingrained jankyness etc).
Just like TikTok, a chinese variant might appear whenever they feel like it and destroy Meta's whole monopoly too

[Anonymous No.6190194]

>>6189847
you got it all backwards, no wonder since msm HATE zuck: he's literally the most hated person by american normies
metaverse is just the evolution of the internet with better UI. it doesn't belong to any company. Apple is guaranteed to try to sell a propietary incompatible alternative, and that's why they keep talking shit about the open alternative that everyone can join

[Anonymous No.6190235]

>>6178370
>t. NGMI

[Anonymous No.6190242]

>>6177083
>the human brain has 90 billion neurons
does this mean that when these programs have 90 billion parameters they will become as good as humans?
what happens next, like at a trillion parameters?

[Anonymous No.6190278]

>>6190242
At most they'll be a sidegrade because these AI's not genuine and more likr glorified image blenders. No human brain would put watermarks from random stock sites in the art
https://mobile.twitter.com/amoebadesign/status/1534542037814591490

[Anonymous No.6190296]

>>6190278
heh
but seriously, there's no way google or m$ will allow watermarked trash in their datasets. and you can always fix that openai crap with www.watermarkremover.io or something

[Anonymous No.6190334]

>>6190296
That means the next art movements will be watermarkism. On a more serious note, can you imagine how creativity and human expression will look like when people from future generations will feel more inclined to throw prompts at AIs and settle for the prettiest image rather than even try doing art manually? The endless amount of AI regurgitation trained on the same datasets and even its own generations will demoralize and at the same time homogenize all cultures in the world into whatever the corporates want

[Anonymous No.6190339]

>>6190278
>No human brain would put watermarks from random stock sites in the art
Here's an experiment for you to run:
1. collect a couple thousand big collection of stock images with watermarks
2. select a random picture and try exactly memorizing it by repeatedly opening and closing your eyes
3. discard the picture
4. repeat steps 2-3 for the next 12 hours
5. immediately after ask someone to describe a something related to some part of collection of images you just went through
6. try clearly picturing it in your head, can you see a watermark?
You might run the experiment 2-3 times to get a conclusive answer.

[Anonymous No.6190365]

only coomers and satanists will win against AI

[Anonymous No.6190451]

>>6190334

[Anonymous No.6190455]

>>6190334
"creativity" is overrated
normal artists just try to copy the same style everybody else is making. good artists try to mix a couple of existing styles, just like any of these early AIs
if anything, AIs are more likely to produce new, compelling, legit creative stuff, that human artists would never have thought of

[Anonymous No.6190465]

>>6190455
>if anything, AIs are more likely to produce new, compelling, legit creative stuff, that human artists would never have thought of
Such as? By design none of these AIs can develop anything new that differentiates from the original images and meanings it was fed, or else it would be considered a huge commercial failure since it would be counterintuitive to work with prompts for not delivering the request precisely based on the words used. Someone requests a tree with apples, and it does is generate a tree with clearly visible apples.

[Anonymous No.6190483]

>>6190465
>Someone requests a tree with apples, and it does is generate a tree with clearly visible apples

[Anonymous No.6190498]

>>6177083
kinda tired of people with no idea behind the tech and no idea about the limitation of current tech spamming the board

especially the retards who talk as if AI is going to go sentient in the next 10 years lmao

these ai already use huge computing power, the power needed to remotely come close to the computing power of a human brain is yet to be achieved

maybe when the first quantum computer come sinto play, shit might get scary but it likely wont be in our lifetimes and even if it is, AI stealing artists jobs is the least of concerns

id be more concern about someone having access to the same computing power needed to simulate human creativity and using it to hack into banks and shit

imagine having the tech to literally change the tech world but decide its more useful in making crappy generic derivative images

fucking pathetic, the whole lot of you

[Anonymous No.6190501]

>>6190498
forgot to add

if an ai cant create the same way a human brain can, then human art is never going to die out, hell, as long as humans exist that arent complete /ic/ shitposters autists, human art will always be valued above AI art and AI might actually drive the prices up especially for good trad artists in the future

[Anonymous No.6190645]

>>6177083
The main problem with this tech is then shameless censoring of art
>Google: Photorealistic outputs pose risks and concerns around the creation of deepfakes, and propagation of visually-oriented misinformation
>We have decided not to release our models without further safeguards in place
>We will focus on strategies, such as prompt filtering and output filtering
>We hope we can all enjoy responsible aesthetic visual experiences.

Funny how americans still pretend to be a free country while government sponsored corporations get away with this kind of shit

[Anonymous No.6191683]

>>6177083
I don't care.
What bothers me is big tech companies profiting from intellectual work. This is literally plagiarization.