/wct/ - Water Cooler Talk

[Anonymous No.6176286]

If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.6176299]

im gay and my dick is small

[Anonymous No.6176323]

>>6176299
im straight and my dick is big

[Anonymous No.6176329]

lets see if we can beat the autism high score of last thread

[Anonymous No.6176385]

>>6176299
>>6176323
I'm straight and my dick is small.

[Anonymous No.6176403]

>>6176385
im straight and i have no dick

[Anonymous No.6176406]

>>6176299
Cute, let me treat you like the sissy you are

[Anonymous No.6176408]

Anyone have any book recommendations on how to make friends irl?

[Anonymous No.6176410]

>>6176408
friends are a waste of time

[Anonymous No.6176418]

Do you think he put perfume on that painting to cover the smell?

[Anonymous No.6176424]

>>6176408
Talk about something that u like
Videogames, music, movies, book

[Anonymous No.6176432]

Is this the new vent thread?

[Anonymous No.6176433]

>>6174575
>We could go over each namefag but they all specifically draw targets on themselves by being overtly showoffish.
Kek, I hope some newfag comes in this place that is so good you will die seething in jealousy.

[Anonymous No.6176477]

i finally beat grey fox

[Anonymous No.6176493]

I want to kill myself but I dont really want to die

[Anonymous No.6176504]

>>6176299
same!

[Anonymous No.6176526]

>>6176493
It just means youre dissatisfied with who you are, wants to change, but dont know how

[Anonymous No.6176537]

I seriously don't know how hips/navel area are drawn

[Anonymous No.6176598]

>>6176537
sucks to be you Hahahaha!

[Anonymous No.6176797]

Just gave several threads their daily dose of shitpost, you're welcome. Now time to leave this shithole of a board, will be back tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6176812]

>>6176286
Is it better to focus on improving your strengths or fixing weaknesses? I know most artists are drawn to a particular subject (characters, portraits, backgrounds, props etc) and the overall opinion seems to vary on what is best.

I'm absolute shit at characters but my backgrounds are much better. I'm worried about being a one trick pony but I'm also worried if I focus on characters, I'll just end up being a mediocre all arounder

[Anonymous No.6176819]

>>6176812
You should focus on worrying.

[Anonymous No.6176881]

>>6176797
You won't draw anything. Fags like you never draw anything.

[Anonymous No.6176912]

I'm thinking about using tweepsmap so I can get a general idea for the best times to post but I don't know if I want to spend 14 a month for it

[Anonymous No.6177095]

>>6176526
Hope I figure it out soon

[Anonymous No.6177391]

>>6176912
worthless unless you have +10k followers.

[Anonymous No.6177831]

i have diarrhea but i dont want to stop drawing thighs to get up, so im also getting my kegels in holding it in i guess. productionmaxxing

[Anonymous No.6177836]

what’s proper drawing posture? my stomach and back are fucked up atm from looking close up at a book and drawing at the same time

[Anonymous No.6177848]

>>6177836
straight back, non dominant elbow at your ribs, legs either crossed at the ankles underneath you or your feet flat on the floor, don't rest your hand on the paper, and have a >45 degree but <90 degree drawing surface so you can draw with your neck straight

[Anonymous No.6177867]

>>6177831
once nearly pulled my pectoralis minor running to the toilet because i was turtling hardcore

[Anonymous No.6178021]

>flip flopping between dunning-krueger and imposter syndrome

[Anonymous No.6178058]

>>6176408
Anon, this is coming from an autist who managed to make a couple friends. You have to be the one who makes the advance. Pick someone who looks like a social autist just like you and start talking, don't afraid of being lame or cringe. Message them, ask them stuff you know they're knowledgeable about, make an effort to ask them to hang out often, don't be boring, talk about your hobby, passion freely. The one who's gonna judge you and your passion harshly won't want to hang out with you anyway.

[Anonymous No.6178172]

>try out social media for the nth time
>observe the sfw bubble
>it's full of clinically insane people, kids and consumer cattle
>every post is about some inane shit
>every post is about trying to get more attention than other people
>every post is consumers circlejerking about products
>every other post is some cunt posting selfies which has absolutely nothing to do with the actual thing
>if someone follows OF whores, you're going to get their posts recommended
>even if you like certain topics, the algorithm will feed you those images
>every other posts are ads from companies
>every other post it's a picture of tranny
>every other post is some shitty politics things somebody else liked
>find posts where people talk about stuff that shouldn't regress into shit flinging
>threads are filled with mentally ill kids flinging shit at people who don't agree with their delusions and circlejerking
>majority of artists are actually full blown delusional narcissists bordering on sociopathic behavior with crippling insecurity on top; much like 90% of the anons on this board
complete hugbox mentality turning into toxic swamp if you don't submit
>if you don't follow anything or anyone, you just will get ads from companies

>observe the nsfw bubble
>not so bad as the sfw
>mostly robotic/company like behavior and posts
>everything is a numbers game
>also filled with kids and insane people on the consumer side

Conclusion:
If you're not heavily narcissistic or a sociopath, don't bother with social media.

If you're relatively sane, you have no chance of survival and you will start developing violent fantasies to get rid of unreasonable people.
Shit's fucked up, big time.

[Anonymous No.6178224]

I know this was a meme a few years ago about how “npcs” can’t see images in their minds eye but that aside, like me, can you guys see like a near transparent visual film play in your eyes like a daydream trance? It especially gets more clearer when listening to music. It feels like i’m failing the Gods for not using this ability to its fullest potential.

I’ve always had this but just assumed all humans have it under the label of “daydreaming” until that “npc” meme showed up in 2018-2019.

[Anonymous No.6178229]

>>6178172
>it's full of clinically insane people, kids and consumer cattle
>every post is about some inane shit
>every post is about trying to get more attention than other people
>every post is consumers circlejerking about products
>every other post is some cunt posting selfies which has absolutely nothing to do with the actual thing
>if someone follows OF whores, you're going to get their posts recommended
>even if you like certain topics, the algorithm will feed you those images
>every other posts are ads from companies
>every other post it's a picture of tranny
>every other post is some shitty politics things somebody else liked
>find posts where people talk about stuff that shouldn't regress into shit flinging
>threads are filled with mentally ill kids flinging shit at people who don't agree with their delusions and circlejerking
>majority of artists are actually full blown delusional narcissists bordering on sociopathic behavior with crippling insecurity on top; much like 90% of the anons on this board
Lmfao, that's just 4chan but with e-whore. Touch some grass dude, it's just a different brand of autism, no thing to lose your shit for. Touch some grass

[Anonymous No.6178231]

>>6176286
i understand being frustrated with not being able to draw to a level you think you should be able to but why do people find so many excuses not to draw?
I would rather be a sonichu tier and love drawing then be an amazing and hate it

maybe it's just bait posts

[Anonymous No.6178232]

>>6178224
It's a meme

[Anonymous No.6178234]

>>6178172
Social media is poison, even normies are acknowledging this

[Anonymous No.6178237]

>>6178229
>Lmfao, that's just 4chan but with e-whore. Touch some grass dude, it's just a different brand of autism, no thing to lose your shit for. Touch some grass
For your own sake, i hope you're joking.
>>6178234
Normies say and do everything for social validation.
Can't have an opinion on something if you don't really expose yourself to the thing, no?

[Anonymous No.6178239]

>>6178237
>For your own sake, i hope you're joking.
I'm not, seriously. The only thing 4chan lacks is an algorithm to push stupid threads in your face. Otherwise it's all the same thing, 99% of the post in this board derail into shit flinging for the most unrelated reasons possible, autist being autists, fishing for (you)s thinking they are somehow superior to people chasing likes and retweets. 4chan is just a social network for people who can't post their tits online. Occasionally there are useful and educational stuff to come across, but you're just wasting your time delving any further than that. Personally I don't mind wasting my time here very much, but I don't think 4chan is that much better than twitter or facebook if you don't have political beliefs you strongly like or dislike

[Anonymous No.6178251]

>>6178239
the anonymous nature on 4chan means that there's more potential for real debates and discussion than any other social media

there will always be schizos and shitposters but at least you can call them faggots

[Anonymous No.6178259]

>>6178239
That has mostly to do with the mindset being the same across the userbases.
And the huge dip in quality is directly correlated to the generational shift and a majority of people having access to the internet.

All social media are much more homogenized than before. Those who use twitter also use all the other social media platforms.
Those who post on 4chan also heavily use other platforms.
>if you don't have political beliefs you strongly like or dislike
And that's the main problem.
4chan was never about politics, the new wave of teenagers made it that way because they've been politicized by normie social media and american corporate memes.

And also this>>6178251
Try to call someone stupid or actually disagreeing on other social media and they will move heaven and earth to make you even regret interacting with them with your only choice being deleting your account.

>but you're just wasting your time delving any further than that
Maybe i am, maybe i can build a case for autistic, actual insane people and kids not being able to have access to the internet.
Maybe someone else will read this and carry on my memes.

4chan is the last site where you can actually express these type of sentiments and talk about them; if you allow more zoomers to fuck shit up, you might as well just nuke the planet since there'd be no point in doing anything, it would be just:
>"consume and stop asking questions"
And such a possible future can only be met with violence.

[Anonymous No.6178264]

i need to learn how to paint/render/finish my pieces but i just like drawing too much...

[Anonymous No.6178323]

you are supposed to use social media to grow following so more people appreciate what you make, any creator would like that, regardless if it's your primary goal or not
go become politician or something if all you care about is pushing your opinion

[Anonymous No.6178481]

I'm lost in life.

[Anonymous No.6178570]

i drew for 7 hours today and i still feel guilty for playing videogames like 2 hours before bed
i just want to do brainless stuff sometimes, drawing is fun but it uses up a lot of brainpower

[Anonymous No.6178586]

>>6178570
no need to feel bad, taking break to have some mindless fun is always good

plus the brain actually needs breaks to precess info and retain it

[Anonymous No.6178770]

>>6178323
>go become politician or something if all you care about is pushing your opinion
But that's what creators also abuse it for.
When they reach a substantial amount of followers they start spamming political shit

Now multiply it by the amount of creators on the platform and you got cancer.

[Anonymous No.6178799]

>>6178323
nah I think I'll post my political opinions because I can, do something about it pussy

[Anonymous No.6178890]

>>6178770
well it's their following, let them do what they want with it
if you don't like their opinion you are free to unfollow/block them
come to think, it's easier to keep your twitter feed free from politics, unlike this place where you see retards seething about kikes/niggers/trannies every hour

[Anonymous No.6178947]

>>6176286
Hey guys, I've been working on my comic recently, and I wonder where to publish it.
Publishing things the traditional way seems like a bad option, American publishers don't give a shit about your stuff unless you are some Transracial Male Lesbian (and even if published, nobody buys American comics anymore) and I doubt Japanese publishers would care about my stuff, plus I like working full color and Japanese Manga is published Black and White. Which Webtoon or Web comic portal is best for a simple Shonen-Genre type of comic? I see a lot of BL and Shoujo type stuff in the front pages of those sites.

[Anonymous No.6178952]

>>6178890
>its ok when they do it
>BUT THIS PLACE
Let them do what they want
You are free to close your eyes

[Anonymous No.6178969]

>>6178952
well at least we agreed that 4chud isn't any better than toxic hugboxes you write paragraphs about

[Anonymous No.6179058]

>>6178323
I NEEEEED MY ABORTIONS!!!!!! #FUCKSCOTUS I LOVE GETTING DRUNK MEN TO EJACULATE IN MY VAGINA HERE’S SOME BLOODY OVARY ART

[Anonymous No.6179074]

Shut the fuck up you whiney twitter-obsessed fuckheads.

[Anonymous No.6179179]

>>6179058
Your adverage sjw Twitter artist still draw better than 90% of ic

[Anonymous No.6179185]

>>6178947
You can self publish or work with a smaller publisher like Hiveworks.

[Anonymous No.6179299]

had a demoralizing day of failures where not a single line i draw turns out right. probably going to spend tomorrow reviewing everything i learned over the entire weekend

[Anonymous No.6179820]

[Anonymous No.6179821]

How long did it take you to learn how to draw good heads? I'm trying my best but shit's hard.

[Anonymous No.6179832]

>>6176286
> Been interested in miniature painting despite not actually playing the games
> mfw I'm learning more about painting from /tg/ than I do in /ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHgoCvy5WA

[Anonymous No.6179852]

So when did you realize that the best artists of /ic/ the past years have all been Scandinavian women?

[Anonymous No.6179894]

>>6179821
what are you studying, and why? loomis heads alone won’t teach you anime imo

[Anonymous No.6179905]

>>6179852
Dont worry in a few years one of the best artist will be a black woman (me)

[Anonymous No.6179910]

Rain already you fuck!!!

[Anonymous No.6179917]

artist of solo leveling died

[Anonymous No.6179975]

>>6179894
Currently studying Huston. Not sure what I should study next. But my goal is being able to draw semi realistic and stylized faces.

[Anonymous No.6179985]

>>6178172
You simply block people you don't like and/or posting shit you don't like. Follow only people that make shit you want to see. You'll eventually stop seeing garbage on your timeline. I block any dyke that does dyke/roastiecore art and follow anyone that makes mecha, my twitter viewing experience is alot less stressful.
You stupid faggots have the tools to curate what you see on these god forsaken social media sites but still end up being assblasted all day about it.

[Anonymous No.6179986]

>>6179917
>artist
So the story is fine, yes?

[Anonymous No.6179992]

>>6179985
What is dykecore? I need more based dyke artists to follow

[Anonymous No.6180025]

>>6179985
Yeah, no shit that if you curate your shit and block people, you won't see shit you don't like; that's not the point.

If you want to enclose yourself into an consumeristic focused echo chamber you're not better than the autists, kids and the insane people; you're part of the problem.
Not only are you denying yourself to learn other opinions, but you're actively crippling yourself mentally so much that you won't be able to handle anyone straying from your opinions and beliefs. You will perceive any disagreement as personal attacks and react accordingly as if your identity would be at stake.
Anyone that disagrees with you must be "the enemy", hate you or hate what you like.

These are the exact type of people that fuck shit up because they're retarded, delusional and brainwashed and shouldn't be allowed to have a say in society or speak in any circumstances whatsoever.
Not because of the opinions they speak, but because their behavior being on par with cult like fanaticism and thanks to social media, these type of people can gather.

This problem is on a global scale and such individuals are a danger to others, because they are insane.
>inb4 how does the well-being of society affect me
Everything you love will be destroyed by these creatures, because you closed your eyes and focused on being in your bubble, unaware of what others say and think.

You can close your eyes and be in your bubble, but you have no right to complain, disagree, agree or argue about anything except of what is in your own subjective bubble.

[Anonymous No.6180038]

>>6180025
imagine giving a fuck things you cannot change, what a waste of time and energy.

[Anonymous No.6180039]

>>6179917
Don't want to crab on a successful artist and someone who's just died. But Solo Leveling is the most overrated shit in recent years. Mediocre art with some fancy effects, and the story is even more retarded and boring than the average korean webtoon, which is something amazing in its own right

[Anonymous No.6180040]

>>6180025
Touch grass

[Anonymous No.6180041]

>>6176286
>Have to go for 3 hour lectures
>Usually shitpost
>Now I just draw
Kino setup

[Anonymous No.6180052]

>>6179917
That's my cue to pick up solo leveling now, Rip in pepperino, what a terrible way to go out

[Anonymous No.6180053]

Ive been working on this short storie comic for the a year now and Im about to finish the storyboard but i think im losing confident in the entire thing, for some reason I think its going to come out mediocre, probably cuz Ive been the dialogue ass sonim working on it and I had entire new idea for the the comic im working on, I even think its alot more light hearted compare to the one I have right thats a little serious, The reason Why im saying im losing confidence in the comic is that The character zone for the main character is something that I can’t change because I created so much artwork with character design, The character design is not bad by all means it’s just something that might not go well with the story particularly her clothes, I created a part where she had a justification to wearing the clothes, im just afraid that It turns out mediocre/boring or both.

[Anonymous No.6180055]

Wonder if I'll actually draw today instead of pathetically watching videos of other people trying new things and having fun together in order to fill the void in my soul, created by lack of meaningful interaction with anyone.

[Anonymous No.6180066]

>>6180025
imagine typing all this when you could just block people

[Anonymous No.6180091]

>>6180055
Why dont u start doing it anon ??

[Anonymous No.6180101]

>>6180025
>Not only are you denying yourself to learn other opinions, but you're actively crippling yourself mentally so much that you won't be able to handle anyone straying from your opinions and beliefs. You will perceive any disagreement as personal attacks and react accordingly as if your identity would be at stake.
You are assuming and projecting alot here. I block all that shit out because when I log onto social media, I'm simply looking for new cool stuff or updates on artist/IPs/indie projects that I'm following. If I'm looking for nuanced opinions on important world events/political happenings, I'm not going to go looking for them on fucking twitter of all places.
>These are the exact type of people that fuck shit up because they're retarded, delusional and brainwashed and shouldn't be allowed to have a say in society
I wholeheartedly agree with you, however there's nothing you or I can do about that now. Anyone with a social security number has access to the internet, therefor access to global discourses. The best you can do is ignore dumbfuck retards yelling into the void or parroting political opinions of their favorite content creators. Being upset about this is akin to yelling at the sky for being blue. Save your energy for more important shit
>Everything you love will be destroyed by these creatures, because you closed your eyes and focused on being in your bubble, unaware of what others say and think.
You have the power to affect your immediate surroundings and not much else. The best we can do is try our hardest to become our best selves, as independent from the world as possible and prepare for the worst, because shit will hit the fan hard in our lifetime, and worrying about what some inbred retards on social media is the definition of a fool's errand

[Anonymous No.6180108]

>>6180091
Drawing or interacting with humans? Drawing I can do, that's the plan after lunch. Meaningful human interaction I can't do because I actually really hate people and regret talking to most of them once I start.

[Anonymous No.6180124]

>>6179975
my advice then is to just take it slow. you have good material, so practice every day and see where you are in a month or so. spend most of that time applying to what you actually want to draw since the lessons are broken up by week and not long

[Anonymous No.6180133]

>>6179832
Man I really want to just relax and paint some miniatures, but I don't really care about the games and/or collecting them.

[Anonymous No.6180145]

>>6178058
Not him but what do you do if it feels like you’re the only one who ever initiates things?

[Anonymous No.6180147]

Every time I see my doodles I want to kill myself, everyone tells me they look wonky but they are too retarded to actually vocalize what’s wrong so I can’t improve

[Anonymous No.6180156]

>>6180145
NTA, but I used to be the one who waited for people to initiate and it was because of horrible social anxiety. I'm not saying this is the case but if you initiate and when you talk or hang out and they seem to really like you, you gel really well then it might be because they're scared of rejection and they may not be aware that it feels very one sided. I've grown considerably since then and feel awful at how bad of a friend I used to be but unless they're aware of the problem to begin with, it probably will not change unless something forces them to change, in my case, losing friends was the consequence..

[Anonymous No.6180203]

>>6180101
>You are assuming and projecting alot here.
It should be obvious that i'm not talking about you specifically.
The thing is; such behavior is common and the more people normalize it, the more they're going to expect other places to follow the same.
People becoming entitled demanding the whole world to submit to their whims and moods.
The groups doing this should also be obvious.
>Being upset about this is akin to yelling at the sky for being blue. Save your energy for more important shit
I still don't get it, anon.
Why am i upset? Why am i wasting energy?
You say projecting is bad but you're the one actually doing it.
This is also a fucked up behavior i see too much of.
Stop trying to assign emotions to shit people say, the more you do that the more you show that you shouldn't be taken seriously.
>and worrying about what some inbred retards on social media is the definition of a fool's errand
The issue is that weak inbred retards are way too many and way too vocal and they are going to be directly responsible for the shit hitting the fan.
>a fool's errand
If people don't start naming the problems and talking solutions, everything is just going to repeat itself

[Anonymous No.6180233]

>>6180203
>If people don't start naming the problems and talking solutions, everything is just going to repeat itself
>don't start
NTA, but this has been all the internet has been doing for the last 10 years to the point that there was even a coined term for it: slacktivism. You're just advocating for more slacktism because you're powerless to change anything and pretending like you don't have any emotions attached when writing this sort of post is plain bullshit. You won't be talking if you didn't care, just saying.

[Anonymous No.6180234]

>>6180203
>If people don't start naming the problems and talking solutions, everything is just going to repeat itself

pure truth, being passive, in a way, helps enable the people and problems

[Anonymous No.6180237]

>>6180040
that’s how you get germs

[Anonymous No.6180259]

>>6180233
Slacktivism is passive, hollow words and positively circlejerking about the thing. Something like repeating a slogan but never making concrete points, never demanding concrete solutions and never working towards solving the problems, because if the problem got solved, the slacktivist couldn't signal their virtue anymore.
>You're just advocating for more slacktism because you're powerless to change anything and pretending like you don't have any emotions attached when writing this sort of post is plain bullshit. You won't be talking if you didn't care, just saying.
You're clearly underage and mentally deficient.
Stop posting.
>>6180234
Pretty much.
Writing and talking is the only thing that can be done now, but it's a start.

[Anonymous No.6180427]

Just spent the last 4 hours playing a shitty hentai game while edging instead of drawing, I may have a problem..

[Anonymous No.6180453]

>>6180259
>Slacktivism is passive, hollow words and positively circlejerking about the thing. Something like repeating a slogan but never making concrete points, never demanding concrete solutions and never working towards solving the problems, because if the problem got solved, the slacktivist couldn't signal their virtue anymore.
The fact that you think this doesn't describe your idea to a T-
>If people don't start naming the problems and talking solutions, everything is just going to repeat itself
is hilarious. You're a know nothing, do nothing like everyone else who's deluded himself into believing that talking is action in itself because you're some powerless faggot hanger-on wishing for the next men/ movement to do the heavy lifting for you. You call me clearly underage and mentally deficient but it's you who still doesn't understand how the fucking world works. Continue seething in hushed tones on a dead artboard of all places while everything love is destroyed by those creatures you were too weak and uncharismatic to do anything about Mr. slacktivist, I'll be drawing and enjoying life.

[Anonymous No.6180489]

>waiting for a good idea: 2 weeks
>looking for references: 1 hour
>constructing the body with cubes and stuff: 1 hour
>tracing the reference: 1 hour
>sketch: 1 hour
>line art: 1 hour
>cleaning lineart: 1 hour
>starting over cause its shit: 4 hours
>color: 1 hour
>shading:1 hour
>cleaning color: 1 hour
>starting over cause its shit: 7 hours

other artists
>waiting for a good idea: instant
>looking for references: 0 seconds
>sketch: 30 seconds
>lineart: 10 minutes
>color: 30 minutes, looks inhuman
>clean up: 0 seconds, its already perfect the first time

[Anonymous No.6180495]

>>6180453
Slacktivism would also imply there is a collective-- organized or loose-- trying to push something, ideally their shared ideals or rules on the broader masses for the sole reason on establishing their cultural rule.

One anon talking about something isn't any kind of activism.
One anon sharing his opinions and views on an image board isn't activism.
One anon saying how the new generation is a plague on society due to lack of parenting and an addiction to social media which amplifies their already fucked up behavior, isn't any kind of activism.

And here we go again:
>do nothing like everyone else who's deluded himself into believing that talking is action in itself because you're some powerless faggot hanger-on wishing for the next men/ movement to do the heavy lifting for you. You call me clearly underage and mentally deficient but it's you who still doesn't understand how the fucking world works. Continue seething in hushed tones on a dead artboard of all places while everything love is destroyed by those creatures you were too weak and uncharismatic to do anything about
You're exactly doing everything what you're accusing others of.

You have nothing, no arguments, no intelligence in anything you posted thus your last resort is to cling at politics and armchair voodoo mind reading psychology.

You offer no arguments, no counter points, no substance, no insights, no anything. Just raw retardation in form of bland, regurgitated platitudes.
I don't need to pull this shit out of my ass because you're showing how underage and intellectually stunted you are.
And i couldn't give less of a shit about what you're feeling, because it's irrelevant to what you post, but it's relevant to you, because all you post is an emotional answer.

Make an actual post worth taking seriously or don't post again, you monkey nigger.

[Anonymous No.6180520]

>>6176286
>Water Cooler Talk
>If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here
What a fucking cringe and embarrassing general. Kill yourself idiot.

[Anonymous No.6180551]

>>6179917
Is he a manhwa guy or what

[Anonymous No.6180579]

I've been practising art for almost a decade and I've gotten really good. If I deepen my understanding of blender I know getting a job for me would be no big deal since I have almost professional level art skill. But I'm dispassioned entirely with the idea that I'm going to be spending my youth working for a corporation that's going to own the copyright to everything I create and nothing will be mine, endless NDA bullshit and toiling until eventually when I'm in my 40s,with hardly any money saved up, I'm going to finally take the plunge and make something that's my own.

Imagine spending 2 decades never reaping any reward for your cognitive and creative potential, essentially have that robbed from you by the corpos for a rat paycheck where the cost of living nukes the minimum wagey job ill have in the industry

>I'll have no money
>never be someone to rely upon within my circle
>never have enough to enjoy life and take time off
>sell my cognitive soul to some corporate pyramid scheme
>the corporate will make billions
>hurr durr I work in a team.. oh wow, Jessica has such a great mind and Tim my art director is so real hur durr

If I take this path I know I WILL an hero

[Anonymous No.6180593]

>>6180520

you have 0 friends

[Anonymous No.6180621]

>>6180593
Clearly that’s what this general is for

[Anonymous No.6180629]

>>6180621

Yeah soooooooooooooooo, wanna be my ffr-fr-frien? Frie--nd? F...

FRIEND?

[Anonymous No.6180634]

>>6180495
Arguing politics on an artboard is a nodraw shit and you're just some angry loser itching for a fight because being mad at the internet is all you do all day. You wanna make the world a better place? stop taking the internet seriously, go outside, get a job, get married, have kids, and grow the fuck up, retard.

[Anonymous No.6180690]

I still don't take you seriously, kid.

[Anonymous No.6180713]

>>6179917
this is why you need a goodnight sleep and not pull an all-nighter like most artists do. Pulling an all-nighter puts you at increase risk of cerebral hemorrhage.

[Anonymous No.6180718]

>>6180713
>I get to die before ai takes away my job
I dunno sounds like a good deal to me

[Anonymous No.6180724]

I'm gonna create the best comic book ever.

[Anonymous No.6180725]

>>6180724
do it faggot

[Anonymous No.6180727]

>>6180725
thank you i will

[Anonymous No.6180736]

>>6180718
>dying before finish ur magnum opus
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6180814]

Nothing is interesting anymore. Seeing cool posters in the late 90's used to fill me with awe. Seeing art from before my time still inspires me to this day. New stuff? I don't care. I see a poster and feel nothing. I see illustrations for games and feel nothing. What the fuck. It's like everything is so far removed from its own humanity you might as well be showing me a brick. In fact a brick might look more inspiring from the right angle.

[Anonymous No.6180835]

>>6180814
The sooner you get out of the old good new bad mindset the better your life as an artist will be. There are still good artists and good arts are made more abundant than ever. If you think everything nowadays is garbage you're just not looking in the right places.

[Anonymous No.6180847]

>>6180133
Have you considered getting a single figurine you really like and just paint it, strip it and paint it again?

[Anonymous No.6180851]

>>6180835
I'm not speaking on the independent artists, of whom I have a few favorites. Some younger than me. It has fuck all to do with new or old. If you can't see the corporate rot decaying our collective artistic climate you're a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.6180853]

https://twitter.com/N0ID0NTTHNIKS0/status/1543065084032868353/photo/1

[Anonymous No.6181049]

>>6176418

Instead of being edgy as fuck doing something that most boys grow out of age 2, he should actually learn to draw. That looks nothing like the Zuck.

[Anonymous No.6181052]

>>6180133
what about gunpla

[Anonymous No.6181081]

I was told by someone I'm regressing, but I now have undeniable proof I've improved. Not that I'll humor that idiot.

[Anonymous No.6181084]

I hate drawing but not drawing feels even worse. What an awesome life, I have to choose between misery and misery.

[Anonymous No.6181092]

I personally know people who're so good at art they can shit out anatomically corrected, appealing art whenever they want as a hobby, and yet never do all the studies of fundies. I'm not saying fundies are useless, talentless people like me need and can study it to get good. But it's just disheartening to try so hard and still can't get to level of people who do it as a side hobby

[Anonymous No.6181095]

>>6181092
>falling for the sprezzaturra meme
Lol, lmao even. You're comparing your authentic self to the fake, "im not even trying haha" version others put out.

[Hoboanon No.6181096]

>>6181084
One day you'll grow up little one?!

[Anonymous No.6181102]

>>6180853
Idk whats more embarrassing that hes still trying to own the libs in 2022 or the fact that he still psimp for alt right YouTubers in 2022 and still can't get a get a crumb of clout for it

[Anonymous No.6181129]

>>6181096
How can I accelerate this process?

[Anonymous No.6181134]

You ever wonder if you're polishing a turd?

[Hoboanon No.6181136]

>>6181134
Why would you polish a turd?

[Hoboanon No.6181138]

>>6181134
You dont draw a turd in a first place.

[Anonymous No.6181518]

god damn I just went through a psychotic break yesterday and almost killed myself
wtf why does art do this to people

[Anonymous No.6181837]

>>6181518
Yikes, don't do that. Maybe substitute those thoughts with CS:GO or something.

[Anonymous No.6181841]

>>6181518
Don't blame art for your mental illness. If anything it is a conduit for suppressing mental illness.

[Anonymous No.6181853]

>>6181134
i never wonder about it because polishing turds is all i do

[Anonymous No.6181860]

>>6181518
Go get some professional help immediately Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.6181884]

>Found out a mutual in a discord server who rarely posts has 450k+ followers on insta
>very lazy "Kawaii" pastel art
>Got free tablets for sponsorship deals
>Been on hiatus for a year
Damn this idiot, they could've used this as leverage for more sponsorships and commissions.

[Anonymous No.6181946]

I hate other artists so much

[Anonymous No.6182040]

I love (YOU) so much. Yes, YOU. You know who who YOU are, you. I don't even have to spell out YOUR name because YOU know already.

[Anonymous No.6182081]

Gonna spend 6 hours playing multiversus instead of drawing

[Anonymous No.6182102]

>>6176299
I'm gay and I have no dick

[Anonymous No.6182110]

>>6181841
>>6181860
just checked in with a mental health professional today, apparently I might have a psychosis disorder that I've been suppressing kek
reminder to all you faggots to get your head checked every once in a while, you never know what might happen

[Anonymous No.6182111]

What do you guys think the overall strongest board combo is? If the board combo was a person who would be the renaissance man?

I'm mostly a tourist from /out/ but it seems cozy over here.

[Anonymous No.6182119]

>>6182111
Fuck is a board combo? aren't we cursed with /i/ anyways?

[Anonymous No.6182131]

I don't know what I'm going to do with my life.

The only real skills I have in my life are my artistry, I can draw decently. Sometimes I fuck up. I don't have many other skills at all, I'm terrible with math, and my social skills are getting worse and worse. I see some people who picked up drawing during quarantine back in 2020 and they already draw better than I have, and I've been doing this shit since I was a small kid. It makes me feel worthless seeing all these other artists on social media who get recognition and fans, and support and shit, while I'm over here rotting and struggle to make any art due to ahedonia.
I guess a good thing going for me is I feel a surge in creativity, so I've been making art within the past few weeks.
I feel my art can't be that bad, I made it into a challenging to get into art school and I couldn't go because quite frankly I can't afford it, and I'd rather not be that weirdo in college who has their schizo break down and has to leave and quit.
My family wants me to go to college, in our culture it's important, but I guess what I want to do is join the work force and do art on the side. I just don't know that my art is good enough ever to even make a profitable career.

What do?

[Anonymous No.6182133]

>>6182119
What boards would interesting/good/odd people browse. Like talking to a guy that was frequent poster in both /diy/ & /mu/ would be interesting.

/pol/ & /v/ would be like talking to every anon ever. As those are boards are the most frequented. I am just curious what you think would be some of the more interesting combinations.

[Anonymous No.6182160]

>>6182133
I just go to /ic/ /a/ /vr/ and /co/,/tv/ if theres a show im watching
I have a strong feeling that there's alot of /g/ here and definitely /pol/ tourists come here, but for an opposite reason

[Anonymous No.6182391]

>deadline for comic coming up
>foot and leg problems told it was caused by ear infection, no idea
>bedridden can't walk or sit because my entire foot is covered in rashes and swelling
>weird position while trying to draw
>start drawing even worse than I already do everything looks awful
>not even coloring in the lines
whut tha fakk......

[Anonymous No.6182395]

>>6182111
>cozy
>ic
You must have only been here for a day. That being said, /out/ and /ic/ is a great combo. Going out to do life studies and plein air is fantastic. I have a feeling you're a /trad/ guy

[Anonymous No.6182400]

I can't believe I'm admitting this but tracing 3D models actually improves my work.

[Anonymous No.6182441]

Tried to read a book on perspective and fell the fuck asleep. I barely made it 25 pages before the technical jargon and diagrams knocked my ass out. Shits ridiculously boring, I'll just practice the general idea this guy is talking about and I'll get it eventually.

[Anonymous No.6182572]

>>6182111
/fitlit/ no doubt, Plato was a champion wrestler, just so you know.

/ic/ and /m/ is also a good one if you're into mecha, there're some knowledgeable anons in /m/.

/a/ is useless even if you only draw anime so don't go there. There's no meaningful discussion

/ic/ and /lit/ can also be a soulful one, since lots of famous writers also painted, but /lit/ autists usually can't into something that requires dedication like drawing.

That's all the boards I frequent, don't know about the rest. But /fa/ seems like it can be useful to draw anons

[Anonymous No.6182598]

>>6182395
You got me on all counts

>>6182572
I can never get into /lit/ every time. I like to read technicals and the occasional fiction. But it just seems a lot like /mu/ to me.
/fa/ is similar to /o/ from my perspective. A decent board that I never go on. Thanks for the recs.

[Anonymous No.6182687]

>>6176299
yeah its like that

[Anonymous No.6182845]

I wish I had more time
There's so much I want to draw and learn but ever since I got a job I've had to give up on so many things.

I need this job, if I play my cards right I MIGHT even be able to set my future up to work a lot less.
But I'm giving up so many years, I'd be in my early 30s by then. Oh god.

>>6182391
Comic art is real hard, stay strong anon I feel you
>>6178570
I can't really play vidya for >30min these days, between guilt ("I should be drawing"), lack of time to do so, and generally just having my fill in that window.
Taking breaks, letting your brain defocus, is pretty important though.

[Anonymous No.6182872]

>>6182391
kek did you procrastinate the webtoon contest too

[Anonymous No.6182878]

>>6182572
>/lit/ autists usally can't into something that requires dedication
I used browse /lit/ a few years back. Weren't they dedicating themselves to Infinite Jest, Crime and Punishment, and Kafka? What happened?

[Anonymous No.6182911]

Fuck guys, I think Vilppu just unlocked me

[Anonymous No.6182915]

>>6182878
Reading long books doesn't take a fraction of the dedication required to learn a craft. /lit/ spend to much time lamenting their maidenless state and the end of the society that's supposed to come tomorrow to do anything else anyway

[Anonymous No.6182929]

>spend all day thinking about drawing but cant start
>so much anxiety building up
>finally manages to start drawing
>holy shit this is so much fun
>but bedtime is in an hour
>repeat this exact process the next day
>do this for months
what the fuck is wrong with me

[Anonymous No.6183496]

>>6182929
literally me

[Anonymous No.6183554]

>>6182911
which class?

[Anonymous No.6183611]

>>6182845
thanks
>>6182872
More like I drew too many panels. I grinded last month but this entire month I kept getting into unexpected situations and was too delirious to concentrate. I can't find a position to draw in as it seems whenever I try to get into a comfortable position my foot swells and I get new rashes and hives. I feel like I want to stop because it's not worth it, the comic is garbage, and I don't read or like drawing webtoons, but I already invested so much time so I'm going to push through the turds. I have zero sense for colors and it makes my black and white pages so much worse. It would be nice if there wasn't a color requirement but hey at least I got out of my comfort zone. Did you finish yours yet? If not how much do you have left to do

[Anonymous No.6183760]

>>6182929
>>6183496

I find giving your self the most exciting activity as the first thing in the day helps.
For instance if you are really enjoying working on a certain project or are looking forward to the next steps do that first.

Today I had some figure drawing homework I was looking forward to. But animation work I was dreading. So I started with easy figure drawing, got cozy, and then was already started so just transitioned into animation work.

[Anonymous No.6183762]

>>6179185
>Hiveworks
Just looked them up and they still have their rainbow flag shit on twitter... Is there no small publisher/web comic portal that is just for regular action Shonen-like stuff?

[Anonymous No.6183865]

>>6183611
damn, that sounds terrible. If it makes you feel any better I just started a few days ago and haven't even started coloring yet

[Anonymous No.6183873]

>>6183865
How many panels you have left?

[Anonymous No.6183888]

>>6183873
35
I'm going to fucking die kek

[Anonymous No.6183937]

HOLY FUCK I FUUUUUCKING SUUUUUUUCK
Ok now back to.drawing...

[Anonymous No.6183945]

>>6183937
draw figgie

[Anonymous No.6183955]

im going thru a depression/malaise right now. lost interest in everything, not even vidya gayms help

[Anonymous No.6183956]

>>6183955
same

[Anonymous No.6183970]

she's gone

[Anonymous No.6184140]

but i'm still here for you baby

[Anonymous No.6184160]

I thought this was cool and /ic/ related, but I don't want to wait for context to post it so I'll drop it here.
Man, what a Manga. On one hand the author is a really detestable woman, but it's such an honest portrayal of one's flawed self.

[Anonymous No.6184164]

>>6184140

[Anonymous No.6184525]

>>6184160
swauce?

[Anonymous No.6184538]

>>6184525
it's so and so, such and such...

[Anonymous No.6184899]

>decide to look up if there's some adult art classes around
>local college has some decent classes (although basically only intro classes)
>only classes I can attend are 30-40 minutes away downtown and ends at 9pm
Idk if it's worth it. I want to go mainly just to have other people to talk to. But 9 is pretty late considering I'd need to drive back home and shower and still wake up for work by 6. It's only 1 day a week per class but still... the only not intro class is figure drawing which would be nice but isn't within my timeslot

[Anonymous No.6184960]

Out of all the hobbies board, /ic/ is probably the most spiteful one. I don't understand. Aren't you artists supposed to be happy doing art compared to the no-life who play video games all day? Everyone here seems to be so angry, angry about themselves, about others, about famous artists, and some I feel deliberately try to sabotage fellow artists. It's almost as if you guys are personally offended all the time or something.

The other boards are not all sunshine, but out of the ones I use, I think none is as bizzare as this one. Is drawing that much of a mind breaking hobby? Granted I haven't drawn seriously for years yet, but I have never felt so stressed about it as much as some here seem to do.

[Anonymous No.6184964]

>>6184960
talking to people on /ic/ is almost as frustrating as talking to people on /u/.
drawing itself is fun, but the people here are retarded.

[Anonymous No.6184966]

>>6184960
If you don't get good at art quickly it takes a toll on people's mental health. You can see an earlier example of someone wanting to kill themselves in this thread for example.

[Anonymous No.6185010]

>>6184960
You said it yourself people here hate themselves then take it out that fustration on others, you can tell from how bitter, elaborate, and dedicated the trolling always is here. People need to learn that if this board is getting to them that bad than its time to leave. Stewing in this crab pot just isn't good for your mental health.

[Anonymous No.6185021]

It always depresses me to see these really amazing artists get fuck all engagement on socials...

I hate seeing them get buried because what chance do I have if they can't?

[Anonymous No.6185024]

another retail job interview tomorrow. feel embarrassed that i couldn't do anything with my animation degree. It hurts to see the people i studied with doing so well, I'm happy for them I'm just really angry for being such a worthless piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6185030]

>>6185024
id rather panhandle and dumpster dive than work in retail

[Anonymous No.6185059]

>>6184960
>anime avatarfag has a retarded opinion, surprising nobody

[Anonymous No.6185102]

>>6185024
You're value as a human being is tied to your soul, not your works anon.

[Anonymous No.6185109]

my wife just found out she's pregnant with baby 4. how do i stop having kids without getting a vasectomy?

[Anonymous No.6185113]

>>6185109
table guy….

[Anonymous No.6185115]

>>6185109
Congrats

[Anonymous No.6185122]

>>6185113
not me
>>6185115
thanks, but Im dreading going through nine months of pregnancy again, and then the newborn stage... 4 was always the goal, but damn... 4 under 5 years old... i can't remember the last time i got more than 5 hours of sleep.

[Anonymous No.6185126]

>>6185109
How black is your wife's son?

[Anonymous No.6185128]

>>6185122
You'll turn around soon and they'll all be grown. But yeah big rip

[Anonymous No.6185175]

>>6185128
at least they should all be moved out by the time I'm, like, 48. I still think banging them out relatively young was the best strategy.

[Anonymous No.6185181]

>>6185175
You get the most time with them that way.

[Anonymous No.6185188]

>/vent/
based
>/wct/
cringe

[Anonymous No.6185194]

>>6185188
Alice is cutest as an anime. Shame she's so painfully Overdone and every single manga/anime about her completely misses the point and fucks up the story.

[Anonymous No.6185195]

>>6185194
Quick rundown?
How do I draw noncringe alice?

[Anonymous No.6185198]

>>6185195
It's about the stories she gets portrayed in not how she's drawn.

[Anonymous No.6185199]

>>6185188
go back to /co/ avatarfag autist

[Anonymous No.6185201]

>>6184960
most people here do not draw

[Anonymous No.6185237]

stemfags were right i'm a real permabeg, what can i self learn without schooling in stem

[there is no /vent/ and I must scream No.6185245]

i want to draw i got to draw i want to get a job i like to draw
i like to draw and i want to draw, i've got to draw to get a job
to get a job i might like and even if not go freelance
freelance job go work i've gotta draw
that's ok i like to draw
i really like to draw
but i don't know what to draw
i am being eaten up by my own laziness and excuses
but i do like to draw and i know i've got to draw to make it
to make it
it the make the thing that will get me a job and some fulfillment and happiness
and i like to draw so i'm also happy drawing
but i don't know what to draw
i don't know what to draw
i just need to have someone tell me what to draw or i don't know what to draw
i have many unfinished ideas on paper but nothing i've drawn
though I do like to draw
but when it comes to deciding i completely buckle i have no idea what to draw
there are sixteen billion potential prompts i can't pick one
i can't pick one if i pick one the chances are almost guaranteed that it's the wrong one
there shouldn't be a right or wrong but there is
for clout and money and jobs and satisfaction
there is so much to draw
but i can't pick i can't pick it at all
the guaranteed way to not make a bad pick is not pick at all
I WANT TO DRAW
I CAN'T DRAW
I WILL DRAW BUT NOT WHAT I ENVISIONED AT ALL
IT WON'T MATTER WHEN AI TAKES MY JOB
IT WON'T MATTER AT ALL
even if I do like to draw it won't matter when I can't draw because I'm serving apple fritters at mcdonald's
it wont' matter at all
but I do like to draw

[Anonymous No.6185256]

>ignored outside of this site
>ignored when I post work here
>ignored in real life
>ignored at work

not going to do it but these are the things that make people want to die

[Anonymous No.6185267]

>>6183888
Good luck, I have 40 panels left to color and have to add in the speech bubbles and then resize everything to low res. Afterwards I don't want to draw anymore I'm just going to play advance wars.

[Anonymous No.6185307]

>>6184960
Well playing video games or collecting anime figurines doesn't involve the ego nearly as much as being an artist, the Creator God™. If you're a hobbyist drawing with friends you don't need to be good and showing something to your friends is enough. People that start on the journey of "gittin gud" usually do it for a reason, unfortunately for a lot of people here it's for admiration or social media fame or money rather than just having fun building on a healthy hobby. Like someone building PCs or something. Most people here don't fucking draw and they hate the act of actually drawing. They're butthurt they're not already the next Sakimichan and still think "one day I'm gmi" despite anyone on the outside looking in able to tell that it's pure delusion. Art is also one of the worst fucking fields to "make it" in, you're just one drop in an ocean of artists and most normies don't really give a crap about art anyway. Also the pay is one of the worst out there. If you do "make it" you have to maintain it, it's an unstable ride that never ends. Also congrats, all this being said, you just turned your favorite hobby into shit because now it feels like work. Really stressful work with no job security or interest or respect. Not to mention art is often a solitary pursuit, other artists are your competition even your "friends" so the scene is rife with jealousy. It's just a shit way of life. Basically you could just stay a hobbyist and be happy but Muh Ego

[Anonymous No.6185323]

>>6185307
>Well playing video games or collecting anime figurines doesn't involve the ego nearly as much as being an artist
play more multiplayer games

[Anonymous No.6185332]

>>6185323
Not him, but while I was going to bring up a similar point (especially with 1v1 games like fighting games or RTS games)

a big difference between that and being an artist, is that art is constant and continuous failure for years at a time.
multiplayer games and other hobbies are about victory. you succeed around 50% of the time in online games. Its designed that you're regularly drip-fed those dopamine hits of success. the losses in games are there to balance out the success so that the wins still have value.

but in art you rarely get those successes. even if you do gets likes and retweets, its doesn't really scale as you go and isn't a real measure of success since it varies greatly over the most random things (like if you drew a popular character getting thousands of likes, vs a highly technical piece you're proud of getting in the low hundreds)

[Anonymous No.6185346]

>>6185332
could never relate to the social media thing

i hate attention and people who are desperate for it

[Anonymous No.6185347]

>>6185332
Yeah, this. I played several matches in CoD Mobile last night and every match ended in 2nd place for battle royal. Then the last match for the night I was paired up by some absolute beast God who got nearly 1/3rd of 100 kills while I just sat back and watched him roll everyone. Felt like everyone was bots in that match.

The devs design games in a way where you win some you lose some to keep you playing.

[Anonymous No.6185366]

>>6185347
Most mobile games unironically have bot matches they'll put new and bad players into so that they can get free wins.

[Anonymous No.6185374]

>>6185366
I don’t know why they would need to pull that shit when it’s a game that has to have at least a million active players per day. But I ranked up far enough to the point where every multiplayer match feels like a bot and I get bot likes for not even doing anything over the player who did do something.

The only match mode that doesn’t feel like bot central is the Battle Royal mode but I’m starting to suspect that mode also has bots because I could hide in a completely random, quiet spot and someone will still come up and find me. And those players are 100% of the time too easy to kill.

[Anonymous No.6185384]

>>6185237
Literally everything
T. published STEM grad student

[Anonymous No.6185406]

>>6185256
I am acknowledging your post, you are a good boy and keep up the good work, do your best!

[Anonymous No.6185418]

Just came back from the doctors and my blood pressure was crazy high 158/100 and im certain a great deal of it is art related stress. Take care of health boys and girls.

[Anonymous No.6185424]

>>6185237
stemfags are too analytical to be imaginative

[Anonymous No.6185429]

>>6185406
thank you based jesus

[Anonymous No.6185571]

>>6185384
But aren't subjects such as engineering harder to self-teach compared to coding? I have very little experience with coding but I'm thinking about taking it seriously for moneys but I don't know which language to start with first. Maybe I'm too retarded to learn stem or art in that case I might try trades
>>6185424
Really? Don't you need to be imaginative to be able to come with novel solution and programs? I remember the best coders in my HS class were the most creative ones with coming up with solutions, the best coder in my java class also liked art as well and was pretty good at it and was the valedictorian and went on to do a CS degree I believe.

[Anonymous No.6185573]

>>6185418
i have chronic stress and my blood pressure has always been fine
you either have a genetic predisposition or eat like shit, or both

[Anonymous No.6185680]

>>6185571

>But aren't subjects such as engineering harder to self-teach compared to coding?

No, hiring managers cream themselves at big tech firms for self taught programmers. Have constant coding projects going on. It is much more important for someone to say "What do you work on?" And you say "I developed this for myself" than to say "I had a class project at USFA" Personal education shows motivation and ability to learn.

Trades are based af though. They make more money than both art and STEM. I''m not a trady though so I can't vouch. But my cousin and nieghbor are. They both make bank.

>>6185571
Don't let people like this get you down. They are everywhere. Half of all of the scientists you can think of were writers/painters/playwrights. Big brains get both halves, smooth brains can do neither. And all the best artists I know read shit-tons of white papers. Or at least secondary source papers.

Just trust you gut anon, you're on the path. Besides, >>6185406 will always love you and that's all that matters anyways.

[Anonymous No.6185686]

>>6185571
I met a hiring manager that was a founding member of blackberry.This was about a decade ago. We talked shop for a while. He told me if they had coding degree they were destined to for grunt work. If they had cool personal projects they would be moved to dev team. It was the difference of low 5 figure and GOOD 6 figure salaries. But coding degrees would always get jobs, but they top out at $30/hr or Salary equivelant.

[Anonymous No.6185714]

>>6185686
>If they had cool personal projects they would be moved to dev team. It was the difference of low 5 figure and GOOD 6 figure salaries.
this seems to be the case for practically every single field
if you just do whats expected of you then you will hardly stand out, have some interesting thing thats a complete manifestation of yourself then you are someone worth looking at

how many boring ass 3/4 view elven warriors and orc grunts do portfolio reviewers see? after the 50th convention seeing the same thing repeatedly, they probably develop a muscle memory reaction to the same thing

[Anonymous No.6185718]

>>6185714
>how many boring ass 3/4 view elven warriors and orc grunts do portfolio reviewers see?
As a hiring coordinator for an animation studio, a lot. But what's really the worst is a comic series about an artist who lives in an apartment usually with some sort of spouse and has a cat.

[Anonymous No.6185719]

>>6185680
Yes I wanted to try trades and it seems it is always in demand, just not very popular with my culture. I've only had beginner experience with HTML and Java, but github still confuses me. Despite being a zoomer I'm like a grandpa when it comes to tech so that's my biggest worry with coding. I like drawing but the idea of having to compete or sell my work is impossible I really don't have it in me and I've been drawing my entire life so I'm not one of those people who called themselves beg despite only drawing once a month. I just want to draw for a hobby, but I'll have to learn how to juggle drawing and coding together now.
I've always thought math requires imagination or creativity for things like proofs. It seems you don't need creativity to do stem for a living, but to be a genius or pioneer in stem requires imagination and creativity.
>>6185406
Thank you anon, and thank you Jesus lord and savior.
>>6185686
Well now it's probably a lot different, especially because I see so many people my age getting into CS and there's a lot of self-taught coders now than ever. Maybe I will go back to it and try to start some projects if I can wrap my head around it. I started HTML a few months ago and did java in school. I tried making a site for my drawings but I'm still pretty rough. I wonder if there are any profitable but less-known stem careers out there, any that pair well with art.

[Anonymous No.6185720]

>>6185573
I have a prediposition for it but at worst my blood always maxed at 140/90 and it comes and goes. But I've been taken pain meds for a nasty toothache and lack of sleep for the last two weeks i think that could be a factor as well. I don't have to any stress in my life beside those two things and my diet is decent enough.

[Anonymous No.6185724]

>>6185718
>But what's really the worst is a comic series about an artist who lives in an apartment usually with some sort of spouse and has a cat.
you talking from personal experience? i didnt think people were willing to put that into their portfolio
or is this an animation portfolio specific thing where you try to show the recruiter that you can tell stories?

[Anonymous No.6185729]

>>6185724
Don't know about other industries but I get it a lot for story artists. Designers and Character designers specifically tend to have previous work to reference, which allows them to not have to worry about being creative much.

[Anonymous No.6185739]

>>6185718
>But what's really the worst is a comic series about an artist who lives in an apartment usually with some sort of spouse and has a cat.
>with some sort of spouse
this is ridiculous, how is anyone supposed to relate to such characters?

[Anonymous No.6185743]

>>6185729
it sounds alot like it was a class assignment from a school or they heard about it on one of those youtube "so you want to work at disney. TOP 10 PORTFOLIO tips"

[Anonymous No.6186138]

Rendering takes forever even when you know what to do and how to do it, fuck.

[Anonymous No.6186156]

I've been a neet for half a year after I flunked out of college from having a schizo episode. I've been drawing 24/7 since I dropped out with hopes of making enough money to survive off of it, but after a short burnout I've kind of realized that I enjoy art more as a hobby. Has anybody gotten some sort of wagie job to help support you so you can draw? I've been thinking about becoming a warehouse worker for a bit until I'm ready to just start over at a new college

[Anonymous No.6186204]

>feel like I've been improving quite a bit recently
>decide to branch out and draw something I'm imagining in my head
>It's complete fucking dogshit
I hate it so much. The moment I try to do anything that's not a single figure on a blank screen it all turns to shit.

[Anonymous No.6186224]

>>6176286
I'm horny 24/7. My girlfriend called me "obsessed about sex" hundreds of times, we're 14years together and I've fucked her uncountable amount of times, every hole. Vanilla sex bores the shit out of me so fisting is my foreplay.
I'd actually be happy about if I wasn't horny 10min after cuming just because I've seen a 6/10 body in bikini... In my mind.

Ok time to go to bed, i must draw more coom tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6186234]

>>6186224
>time to go to bed
wtf anon that time you spend sleeping could be spent fucking

[Anonymous No.6186387]

>Finally the weekend
>Really looking forward to getting a lot done
>Bloody stool
>Spend the whole day dizzied from the pain
Why am I so sick all the fucking time? I'm so tired of fucking hospital visits and nurses and appointments.

[Anonymous No.6186392]

>>6186387
I will lick your bloody shit up desu

[Anonymous No.6186531]

>>6186387
Maybe it's the sad pic but this post gets to me somehow. Sorry anon I hope you regain your strength.

[Anonymous No.6186542]

>>6186387
If it';s not from faggotry it's from your intestines.
Try Swedish Elixir.

[Anonymous No.6186546]

>>6186387
What's your diet like?

[Anonymous No.6186552]

>>6186387
Are you gay? Do you subject yourself to sodomy from black guys?

[Anonymous No.6186640]

>>6183955
I can relate on some level. Everything right now feels hollow and unrewarding and I don't know how to get rid of this feeling. It's been 3 years since I've been like this but I'm trying to change it now.

[Anonymous No.6186789]

>>6186546
Pretty bland, had acute gastritis for ~2 months now so I can't eat anything spicy/oily without intense stomach pain. That was from a H.Pylori infection I had to take 12 pills a day for.
Now I'm suddenly getting colon pain on top, went to the doctors and she wants to do an urgent colonscopy
>>6186531
Thanks anon, I appreciate it
>>6186552
>>6186542
>sodomy
I'm too frail for that

[Anonymous No.6186793]

What the hell happened to kancolle in Japan? I don't see any fanart of it as much anymore. How do you go from Touhou levels of popularity to a whisper in the wind so soon?

[Anonymous No.6186795]

>>6186793
Immediate competition from Azur Lane which had similar cute designs but far better gameplay pretty much killed it.
Kancolle doesn't have the base gameplay or music that touhou has, and the more defined characters kills a lot of the fan interpretation.
It was just a FOTM topic with cute girls.

[Anonymous No.6186808]

>>6186795
I remember it felt like Touhou was less popular for a brief moment, during that time when the whole gacha thing was in its infancy and kancolle was among the first for that sort of thing (ship/plane/sword girls wielding heavy weapons for you to collect). I guess as you say it got overtaken by better options.

[Anonymous No.6186920]

>>6184964
imagine being a dyke lover lmao.

[Anonymous No.6186923]

>>6186920
got eem kekw

[Anonymous No.6186929]

>>6186920
YEAH its hawt

[Anonymous No.6186930]

>>6186920
Imagine being straight

[Anonymous No.6186948]

>>6176418
Imagine the smell.
>>6176797
Chad

[Anonymous No.6187113]

This is kinda sad but I'm getting in over 2 hours/day without realizing it or thinking about starting a timer. I'm just absorbed into drawing. Also 26 days in so far without old, destructive patterns (another app) so the gaming actually has helped take my mind off of that. This proves there really is enough time in the day if you're focused.

[Anonymous No.6187149]

My perspective is so weak but it's so fucking boring to do because I love characters and organic settings and hate geometric shit. I can never think of what to draw to practice it, so I default back to drawing nature.

[Anonymous No.6187165]

This Ukraine War castration bs is really ruining my day

[Anonymous No.6187195]

>>6187165
>he's falling for the psyop
Turn off your brain. This rides just getting started.

[Anonymous No.6187198]

feeling really discouraged with art right now. i had cataract surgery a little while ago which caused my vision to be fucking awful. i can only see at one distance basically. cant see close at all so being able to draw close to the paper is impossible plus changing distances from a paper to a subject is hard too because of progressive lense. i have move my head a lot more and nothing is completely clear.
drawing was the only thing i loved in life and i wanted to finally practice seriously.

[Anonymous No.6187202]

>>6187165
whats the deal?

[Anonymous No.6187231]

>>6187198
But your vision will recover eventually, right?

[Anonymous No.6187252]

>>6187202
Look it up yourself. Talking about it here will bring the bots. Keep /pol/ in /pol/.

[Anonymous No.6187274]

>>6187165
Hey man, just remember things may seem bad and tough right now. But don't worry things are gonna get a lot worse.

[Anonymous No.6187286]

>>6187231
nope its fucked forever. to clear away the fogginess that a cataract gives you, they remove your natural lens that is able to change focus depending on what your looking at, to a lens that is a single distance focus. so if i want to look really close i need a certain pair of glasses and if i move my head from that distance it goes out of focus. my progressive glasses have multiple lens but i have to tilt my head up and down to have it hit the right spot and even then its not perfect and still feels unfocused. its just so shitty, being an artist was at least 50% of my personality and now im struggling so hard to see and draw.

[Anonymous No.6187330]

So my objectively good work got ignored here. I've exhausted all my good will for you zoomer abortions. It's the wrath of God from now on.

[Anonymous No.6187354]

>>6187330
I dont follow god. I follow Kami Sama

[Anonymous No.6187399]

>>6187330
>i need (yous) from schizos, pedos, and pepes to be happy

[Anonymous No.6187404]

>>6187399
It's not about me, it's about the board. I thought you fuckers had some class and taste. I was wrong.

[Anonymous No.6187410]

>>6187404
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.6187455]

>>6187404
>I thought you fuckers had some class and taste.
What in the nine fucking hells lead you to form this conclusion?

[Anonymous No.6187524]

>hobbyist
>somehow made 1k followers on Twitter
>post scraps of stuff I'm working on out of pure joy and excitement
>over 10 likes and some comments guaranteed every time
>get DMs asking for comms
>don't take them but it's nice to have the option

It's so comfy bros

[Anonymous No.6187780]

I just had one of my worst cases of food poisoning of my entire life, I don't remember the last time I got this sick, all day in bed only pissing out of my ass and trowing up not even being able to shitpost on the internet. I keep on having those nightmares about the devil playing fiddle right by the side of my bed, I kept asking him to play Tartini, sayin' "Just play Tartini, it's such a nice throwback, people love those things now a days". But he kept on playing Cotton Eye Joe, again and again, I almost got mad but that bastard could buck dance.

[Anonymous No.6187826]

>>6187330
it's not hard to get (You)s sounds like your art is boring desu.

[Anonymous No.6188087]

>>6187524
The dream. Sounds nice. Happy for you, bro.

[Anonymous No.6188096]

>>6187330
You can get (You)s by responding to other peoples work with a spicy comment. Or you can post something racy and anons will demand you to pyw, and they will definitely shit on you when you post.

[Anonymous No.6188266]

I find it difficult to make friends and even when I do, I find it hard to maintain them. For some reason my mental illness presents itself with being very desperate for social interaction, somehow finding a group of friends that are nice enough to hang out and talk with me, then getting the urge to just disappear because I feel trapped. The the loop repeats. Not really sure what that sort of behaviour stems from but it's really irritating.

[Anonymous No.6188270]

>>6187826
pyw

[Anonymous No.6188357]

>>6188096
just respond to your own work and then magically another anon or 3 will comment. For some gay ass reason, people on this site don't like to be the first unless you have diehard fanboys.

[Anonymous No.6188358]

>>6188357
>diehard fanboys.
i wish i had diehard femboys

[Anonymous No.6188398]

>>6188357
>liking a drawing is fanboying
Nigger almost of the drawings on ic is mid at best and critiques here takes a long time to implement if ever, so there's no point in responding to most of it.

[Anonymous No.6188406]

>>6186156
Warehouse worker is solid work, but boring. Didn't follow up on the go back to college thing though.
>t. CNC operator making enough to live on his own

[Anonymous No.6188708]

Anxiety anon again. The studio the allowed zoom discussions calls and stuff has ended.I have a little more direction now for curating a portfolio to get a job with them now. At least I know what tiny things I was missing and so forth. Just trying to get some solid fundies and life drawings in cafes now to practice. In two weeks professors will have to check their emails again and hopefully I'll get some more direction. The one industry pro that got back to me was helpful but I feel like it's always the same thing "wow great work, try _____ in your port work like I do! Just keep drawing anon" I'm just hoping I don't finish my huge portfolio update for all the studios to go "well actually we aren't doing remote work anymore! when you coming to cuckifornia?????" I really want to be able to get in soon and save before than.

I guess I'm just stressed cause it just how can you all say I'm doing great but I can't get like a entry level gig. I know some an industry professional here will say "dude they probably don't have a project available for you to join yet, just be patient" but it sucks you know. I don't get anxiety posting on my social media anymore. I don't get many likes but I never did to begin with. I think it helps knowing that despite only getting 3-9ish likes on my posts industry professionals like it.

[Anonymous No.6188773]

>>6188266
It's a fear of abandonment in the first case then a fear of enmeshment. You can look it up, it usually stems from trauma. Borderline personality disorder experiences it in extremes.

I have the same problem anon and what I do is I just disappear on my friends then come back like nothing happened. I just say I'm really introverted and busy if they question it. They haven't ditched me yet, they just kinda have to deal with it. The fact that you can make friends is a good sign.

[Anonymous No.6188789]

>>6188773
whats the mental disorder where I make friends and like them a lot but at some point end up being annoyed by little insignificant shit they do? It's like my brain tries to find an excuse to get rid of the friendship

I hate that I'm like this

[Anonymous No.6188810]

>>6188789
I think that's called deactivating/splitting. Look up attachment theory

[Anonymous No.6188813]

>>6187286
That sounds terrible. Hopefully you can continue to draw if you are able to somehow adjust to your eye dysfunction with time.

[Anonymous No.6188874]

>>6188789
I have a disorder where I don't make friends because I'm annoyed by the insignificant shit they do when I first meet them. Can't lose friends if you never make any.

[Anonymous No.6188900]

I was looking back on wosaru looking for this really old post I made in 2015 that I got bullied hard on some drawthread.

I noticed a lot of crabbing as per usual, even more than what we have now a days but much more focused on certain artists. Specially firez, every single drawthread I visit looking for what I'm seeking there at least 20 or 30 posts shitting on him. It makes me curious to think if any of the firez crabs succeed as an artist the same amount firez did, or at least close to it.

Wish I could know where are those people now that used to shit so much on the board, are they still here or even more bitter? Really wish I knew.

[Anonymous No.6188905]

>>6188900
You'll find that no namefag on any board will receive a warm reception. It isn't exclusive to firez.

[Anonymous No.6188906]

>>6188900
namefags deserve to be shitposted.
its been this way since 1998

[Anonymous No.6188919]

>>6188906
>>6188906
So, how are your art carriers going? Better than firez? I hope so, almost 10 years.

[Anonymous No.6188924]

>>6188919
Imagine dick riding a namefag that isnt even here anymore, fucking summer newfags, lurk more before posting

[Anonymous No.6188927]

>>6188924
I will take the tone of the reply as the answer.

[Anonymous No.6188931]

>>6188927
More like you will take firez's cum inside of you, fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.6188933]

>>6188931
Lmao, I don't have like firez work to be honest, never said I did, I was looking trough his stuff and is just no my scene. Like I said, I was just curious to see if the people that used to shit so hard on him are still as bitter and a failure while the guy is a relatively successful artist. The over the top shitshow answers I got are more than enough for me to take my own conclusions.

[Anonymous No.6188944]

>>6188933
Yeah. The conclusion is that you're clearly a newfag that doesnt understand 4chan culture, kindly kill yourself
and I'm Pretty sure Brian is more successful than firez but I dont see you jumping to his defense

[Anonymous No.6188958]

>>6188944
You are trying so fucking hard right now, I'm really a newfag looking for my posts from 2015? Please, Who gives a fuck about firez being a tripfag on fucking 4chan in 2022? This place has gone to the shitter in fucking 2012.

You are fucking pathetic, anon, you keep crabbing on that nigger while he goes on living his best life and you are still here seething like a fucking loser. Hilarious, a riot, I was not expecting to actually get a answer this easily. I will leave you now to think about your life decisions and what brought you here, since I'm sure you must be really feeling the butthurt for me bringing up the huge failure you are.

[Anonymous No.6188968]

>>6188958
ye, noticed how you didnt even argue against the point I made about Brian
and 2015 is still a newfag dumbfuck, you could be from 2012 and still be a newfag if you act like one. You're the mentally ill tranny thinking about the people that bullied someone else made it or not from 7 years ago, take meds schizo

[Anonymous No.6188971]

>>6188900
>>6188933
>>6188958
As you can see many of them didn't make it and are still shitty cunts as ever which is why its best not to get caught up in crab culture and just draw

[Anonymous No.6188978]

>>6188968
Who gives a fuck about fucking brian? I'm talking about something completely different and bring up this nigger that has nothing to do with the conversation. Such a tryhard nigger, tsc, tsc, only if you put this amount of effort on your artwork.
>>6188971
It kinda helps to illustrate the sort of person who does this sort of thing. You kinda imagine that the people who try the hardest they can to scare off artists from the board are just kids trying to be trolls but you time to time find this sort of motherfucker and you realize is just someone with something really wrong with them. I was honestly not expecting to find someone harboring so much hate from some random guy from 7 years ago because his works stand out a little, is crazy that someone can actually act like that.

[Anonymous No.6188980]

I wish I didn't have to sleep
I was having fun drawing dicks

Specifically me though, if everyone didn't need to sleep our corporate overlords would have made workdays 16hrs as standard

[Anonymous No.6188982]

>>6188978
>still sperging out

[Anonymous No.6188983]

>>6188982
Yes, and? What are you going to do about it? Wait more 7 years to still not have a real response to give?

[Anonymous No.6188991]

>>6188944
>>6188968
Brian is a laughing stock on this board because his work is poorly crafted, even if he makes money people here rarely praise his work. Bad comparison.
>>6188978
Agreed trolls don't usually attack a subject for years on, lashing out thread after thread, day after day. There's some serious mental illness included by a failed art careers and deeply rooted vendettas at play here.

[Anonymous No.6189141]

>>6188991
The fundamental flaw with this argument is that it's one person. Namefags are a cancer on every board. Especially slow ones like /ic/.
I have no clue who you guys are talking about. But they deserve ridicule. Besides if you want to be recognized on the web go to any of the clear text user based sites. That's why they exist.

[Anonymous No.6189153]

>>6189141
This has nothing to do with firez being a tripfag, no one ever gave a fuck about that and only attacked his artwork. If you actually knew what you were talking about instead of talking it out of your ass is easy to tell anon just has this weird hate boner on the guy and gives 1000 excuses why, he can't even keep a consistent reason why he doesn't like him, he goes from namefag, to his work being bad, to compare him to some other random.

This sort of crab is not what you think, they are not people trying to keep the IB culture alive, they are weird freaks with weird personal vendettas against internet randoms, the fact that nigger had this strong reaction to a comment from a random from 7 years ago is just proof of that.

[Anonymous No.6189158]

>>6189153
>they only cared about his art
Because they hate him. Because he's an annoying tripfag.

[Anonymous No.6189164]

>>6189153
For somebody who complains about others bitterness aggression you are very aggressive and bitter.

[Anonymous No.6189167]

>>6189158
Yeah, no. You are contradicting yourself or outing yourself as a faggot that comes here only to crab and can't look past this sort of petty thing to act normal for one second.

I could even believe that if it was something with moderation, but the fact that 30% of those threads were retards like that shitting the board makes anyone who cares about this sort of thing 100 times worse, because the only thing firez did was post his work and talk about his process while faggots like you made the board worse. How does it feel to be worse than a tripfag by nature?

[Anonymous No.6189170]

>>6189164
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.6189171]

>>6189167
I'm not even that anon, you're just retarded if you think people won't bash on his art if they hate him as a person.
>b-but that's not fair!
good thing we're talking about humans then.

[Anonymous No.6189173]

>>6189171
So what if you are not that anon? I'm not talking about an anon in specific, just highlighting a behavior you are defending.

[Anonymous No.6189177]

>>6189173
>they hate him
>so they hate his art
its that simple.

[Anonymous No.6189180]

Christ.

A single psychopath isn't getting enough attention out in his life so he decides to drag an entire thread into his bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6189184]

>>6189177
>I'm going to shit on your work despite you doing anything wrong just because I don't like you, make the board a worse place being a inconvenience to everyone else, do it for years and seethe about your success that I need to try to justify that almost a decade after and you don't act like that you are just retarded

Yeah, okay, buddy.

[Anonymous No.6189239]

>>6189180
Same shit in the drawthread has been going on for months. It's fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6189477]

>>6189184
>I'm going to shit on your work despite you doing anything wrong
Multiple people have pointed out that tripfags are hated everywhere, no matter who they are. Why ignoring this point specifically?
>do it for years and seethe about your success
You're the one who brought up the subject. I doubt most people here even remember who he is other than some oldfags

You sound awfully butthurt, ignoring valid points and all just to push something that everyone knows that is this board is full of crabs. Are you that tripfag guy returning to "own" people or was just some rando who got crabbed on today? Either way, grow some thick skin and stop crying about 4chin being mean to you. Goddamn you're pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6189634]

>>6189477
>I can separete an artist from the his art and if you don't do that you are retarded
Twitter tier. How embarrassing, maybe you should just go back

[Anonymous No.6189692]

Nuke time soon, I'm sitting next to 3 priority targets, I hope vaporization is fast!

[Anonymous No.6189700]

>>6189692
Are you making a reference to political events, or just whining?
I'm also depressed, but I realized I should never wish for something like this. There are people sacrificing all their time, health, and sanity to keep the country running for everyone. It's far from perfect but they're doing their best. It's not fair to them if some loser piece of shit wishes up a nuclear holocaust on their families. Just kill yourself and don't cause trouble to honest folks.

[Anonymous No.6189704]

>>6189700
Actual political events anon, the US is goading China into war as we speak, on purpose. Except this time the chinks will be unlikely to pussy out like they did in the 90's because they and the entire global south has seen how weak the US has become. I'm not wishing for anything nigger I'm accepting my impending death and wish it to be mercifully swift because 99% odds are me and everyone I love are hit first and I'd rather not slowly die from burn wounds and cancer in a nuclear wasteland. I'd tell you to suck eggs but I will be on my best behavior in case hell is real.

[Anonymous No.6189705]

>>6178058
>ask them stuff you know they're knowledgeable about
Actually amazing advice for connecting with introverts. Damn! It is also wasted on an /r9k/shit frogposter

[Anonymous No.6189720]

>>6189704
nigga you gay

[Anonymous No.6189723]

>>6189720
As if I have a choice anymore in this shithole

[Anonymous No.6189730]

>>6189692
It's time to do some nuclear plein air. The most rare plein air of them all.

[Anonymous No.6189756]

>>6189730
If I survive I'll see if I can drag my rotting husk of a body across the debris and paint the scenery with my own bodily fluids before the radiation men come to finish me off.

[Anonymous No.6189815]

>>6189704
Okay. I was just projecting, because I used to have "I wish everyone would die moments".
I really don't follow the news, but nuclear war is like.. bad or something.

[Anonymous No.6190111]

>>6189723
Fags complain, Men prepare.

[Anonymous No.6190116]

>>6190111
>prepare
Nigga you don't want to survive in a nuclear apocalypse, not that you could.

[Anonymous No.6190117]

>>6190116
>Nuclear Holocaust
>Still thinking in physicality
Gotta get your oil to burn mate.

[Anonymous No.6190120]

>>6190117
Me and Jesus are best buds I'm not worried about that

[Anonymous No.6190122]

>>6190120
Lit, then yeah mate if it's nuclear that's the way it is. It's gonna get a lot worse somehow. At least total nuclear annihilation is quicker than a lot of the other ways.

[Anonymous No.6190128]

>>6190122
Like I said I hope it's fast. I'm not worried about the dying part

[Anonymous No.6190129]

>>6190128
Fair dinkum, I kinda hope its staggered. The thought of someone trying to get in one last shitpost as the bombs drop gives me a chuckle.

[Anonymous No.6190142]

>>6190129
I'll be posting from my lawnchair. World's biggest firework after all