/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6136372]

Haven’t been on /ic/ for many many years. I’ve just come back to see what people are thinking about the rise of AI art as I’ve noticed a lot more of it on DeviantArt. Is the general mood panic, apathy, anger? I’ve honestly been a bit annoyed at the amount of people on DA posting heavily monetised AI art without disclosing it’s made by AI. Anyway I just wanted to know what people are thinking.

[GMI No.6136377]

>>6136372
All 3.ic scared shitless.

[Anonymous No.6136382]

>>6136372
yes, a lot of people that do not deserve to make money will no longer make money and they will be forcefully removed from the world of art by machines like the vile, prostituted, commercialist slave dogs that they are, it's a great time to become an artist

[GMI No.6136383]

>>6136372
I guess photobashers are happy and ai wont replace artists, even if its more advanced and there's like 10 more Dalle's.

[Anonymous No.6136384]

>>6136377
I’ve spoken with friends who are also artists, some professionally and some hobbyists. They seem to not be too scared. I think they assume the art is not as advanced as it is. I can’t tell if I’m neurotic or if I’m being made redundant.

[GMI No.6136386]

>>6136382
Its always great time if you commit to it.

[Anonymous No.6136388]

Shut the fuck up. All these threads including this one are by the same fucking troll. Jesus fucking christ. "Hey guys just came back after many years and am going to randomly talk about AI and how [insert potential trigger] wow boy howdy it really peeves me, thoughts? Petition? We gotta stop this guys the other 100 AI threads by me have left the front page so I better post yet another one.

[Anonymous No.6136389]

The retarded prebegs are rejoicing, thee industry professionals that still return here are having fun, the aspiring beginners are definitely panicking. The artbook pirates are apathetic, the hobbyists are still torn between using ai as reference or using ai as prompts.

Conceptart.org and drawr.net closing still has more pronounced impact on /ic/

[Anonymous No.6136391]

>>6136383
Can you explain what led you to this conclusion? Is this something a lot of people here believe?

[GMI No.6136400]

>>6136384
Know what, people just wont care or will be too lazy to even use it. We have Gan(Art) breeder for like 6 years or so and everyone suddenly scared of Dalle.
Furries will still pay for PERSONALYZED coms just like coomers and so on, i would say Ai posting will die out until we get some more advanced stuf and then it will die off again. Ai is a meme just like ligma, jeans, aphantasia and so on.

[GMI No.6136405]

>>6136400
Stuff*

[Anonymous No.6136406]

>>6136388
I don’t know how I can convince you of this, but I have actually just come back after not coming here for years. I would have thought there’d be multiple people discussing AI art desu it’s a pretty big thing right now. This is an art board too. It makes far more sense that multiple people want to talk about AI than that there’s one person who’s trying to offend you or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6136411]

>>6136400
I have no idea what aphantasia is but that’s up lifting. I hope you're right. Is there any reason you think this way?

[GMI No.6136412]

>>6136406
Also ic is more apeshit than ever before, nowadays.

[Anonymous No.6136416]

>>6136388

[Anonymous No.6136424]

>>6136372
I think AI will eat into stock art markets, not art.

You'll still need to have some artistic talent to tell a good ai image from a bad one.

[Anonymous No.6136430]

>>6136406
Check the catalogue for 15 threads on the topic

[Anonymous No.6136440]

>>6136416
someone make a dall-e render of the meds meme, how the fuck has nobody done this yet?

[Anonymous No.6136459]

>>6136430
There’s 3 and it seems like they’re all dead

[Anonymous No.6136463]

>>6136459
Oh I meant the archive. It’s a discussion that’s quickly been beaten to death. I thought you wanted people’s thoughts on the matter. If you just want to talk to people, I suggest complete silence instead.

[Anonymous No.6136481]

I think AI will really shake up the industry but probably not as fast as some people think. A lot of people seem to have this idea that it's actually AI and "it's going to learn to do EVERYTHING in no time at all" and "Holodecks in 10 years!!!!!" I'm not a techbro, but from my limited reading it's basically just making the most out of current technology rather than relying on some god code that invented sentience.

AI can be scary but it's not worth getting worked up for another "wow there's a breakthrough in tech, that means there's gonna be another one right around the corner, right?" Yeah, and we're still not on mars or fully automating our vehicles yet.

[Anonymous No.6136499]

>>6136400
>We have Gan(Art) breeder for like 6 years or so and everyone suddenly scared of Dalle.
Yeah, this tech isn't as new as people think it is. The marketing behind letting people see their shitty alpha program and their, admittedly impressive, "second" program has done wonders in making people think this technology hasn't existed before.

All the anxiety is worrying about the tech progressing TOO FAST, and that's understandable, but people need to be realistic about the growth of technology, especially these days. God damn, computer RAM is still a meme.

[Anonymous No.6136500]

>>6136499
(For reference, the image is from 2019)

[Anonymous No.6136501]

The only thing AI can easily take over is trannime and coomer shit, it's so generic and trash even at the current state of image AI it can replace most shitty coomer and trannime artists

[Anonymous No.6136565]

>>6136501
>coomer shit
The big commercial ones have filters that prevent them from generating coomer shit. And training these models costs millions of dollars of compute time, and probably depends on proprietary tricks that are hard to reverse engineer if you want best results, so I wouldn't expect a coom-capable version for many years.

[Anonymous No.6136576]

>>6136565
I have seen coom consoomers put up with some pretty appalling quality, I think they would put up with some pretty shitty ai generated porn

[Anonymous No.6136590]

>>6136565
Better data may beat proprietary tricks. Dall-e 2 was trained on a very general set of 650M images. Maybe a simpler network trained on the 5.5M set of Danbooru is more than enough for a specialized purpose.

[Anonymous No.6136591]

>>6136382
Your cringey teen angst posts are easy to recognize in every AI thread.
Why don't you post your work?

[Anonymous No.6136866]

>>6136372
What ai is this ?

[Anonymous No.6137082]

>>6136866
https://www.deviantart.com/rasrdraws

not sure but its defiantly ai

[Anonymous No.6137151]

>>6136384
as it stands now, you can't get specifically what you want out of ai art, and when you get somewhat close, it still needs an artist to finishing touch it.

what should scare people is if nvidia's landscape shit ever get to the point you can block in what you want and add text for it to fill in the blank. I could see that taking jobs.

but realistically, ai can only iterate off what already exists, and while it can be impressive, realistically, when you arent dicking around with it or heavily in the concept phase, ai is useless, and likely won't get better fast enough.

[Anonymous No.6137152]

>>6136499
the scary part of ai is programing ai where we have no fucking clue what its doing but its working.

you also have ai that can cull though data to find correlation, we have no fucking clue why they can but just random bones in a human body they can tell what race the person is at a 99% accuracy.

shit like that is concerning.

[Anonymous No.6137212]

>>6137082
They state that it's ai generated art in their Bio, Shit even their subscription description calls it AI art. Are you implying this artist is disingenuous or that other artists are? There will be AI artists, people who are good at setting parameters and descriptors to get certain images generated. It's like being good with boolean functions on Google or something. I see nothing wrong with the artist you're talking about. If anything, I think they've embraced the new medium that so many people are being little bitches about.

[Anonymous No.6137270]

>>6136591
do you know what the word angst means, retard?

[Anonymous No.6137394]

While Dall-E is impressive and all I think we're at least 10 years away from the point where professional artists would actually start to be displaced by AI. Until then it remains a novelty and maybe sometimes useful tool. If you're an established professional now, I don't think you have much to worry about, especially if you're in studio, as your job is likely more complex and technical than just "gib illustration, receive money". Freelancers would be more likely to be replaced.
If, however, you're a beginner who's aspiring to become pro, it might be a good idea to start thinking of a plan B simply because 10 years is just about the time it takes someone to get from zero to pro level. However, to be square, even without AI I'd advice you to have a plan B as "become a professional artist" was never exactly something that worked out for everyone.

[Anonymous No.6137470]

>>6137082
>theres 91 pages of this garbled trash
>he only started posting in april of this year
we are gonna be fucking drowning in this shite

[Anonymous No.6137478]

>>6137470
oh and he's selling them as nfts, of course

[Anonymous No.6137488]

>>6137394
Yeah. It's a little scary that the transition will begin in my lifetime, but that'll go for most jobs anyways.
From what I've read all this research isn't even being done to replace artists as an endgoal. It'll branch out into more practical fields once/if the companies running these databases get bought out.

[Anonymous No.6137519]

>>6137212
Nope I wasn't specifically talking about that guy. I also disagree that you can be good or bad at generating AI art. If you try it you'd understand that the AI does literally everything.

This guy deletes any comments that mention his art is in any way linked to AI though. https://www.deviantart.com/zekhat

[Anonymous No.6137544]

>>6136866
>>6137082
Disco Diffusion, 100% certain of it.

>>6137519
Well, the good news is. A lot of these "artists" use the same programs, so even normies are going to start to notice that somethings off, when they start to wonder why a lot of their art styles look identical to each other.

Still pretty sad seeing a lot of them getting fooled, especially if it inspires them to pick up the pen, only months later to discover it was just someone typing strands of code into a program all along. Shits going to crush them.

[Anonymous No.6137582]

>>6137544
I’m not sure they’ll ever realise. They’re probably not even aware ai art exists

[Anonymous No.6137619]

>>6137519
And he sells NTFs. What a surprise

[Anonymous No.6137652]

>>6137519
this thing is 100% ripping off beksinski https://www.deviantart.com/zekhat/art/Zhamkrakhor-Mythos-0-6-Giant-Breakwater-920122129

[Anonymous No.6137653]

>>6137652

[Anonymous No.6137669]

>>6137652
I saw someone on instagram comparing ai generated images and the paintings created by artists and showing certain areas that are straight up copied from the original painting to the ai generated image. It’s probably more than ripping him off.

[Anonymous No.6137692]

>>6136372
anger. lazy unskilled shit that will potentially ruin art

[Anonymous No.6137706]

>>6137519
>professional artists
>fiverr
i hope these AI generating retards will simply gain the reputation of scammers lmao

[Anonymous No.6137712]

>>6137669
could you show me that post?

[Anonymous No.6137737]

>>6137712
I didn’t save it. I remember it was a guy who did art really similar to what the ai art looked like. It was kind of like pic related but also not like pic related.

[Anonymous No.6137794]

Your underpaid job got automated. They've digitized SOVL. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.6137801]

>>6137794
you are not going to make it. you will never be able to draw anything competently. you will end up generating trash heaps as people call you out on being a fraud without skill. the only people who will favorite your "art" will be other image generating nobodies.

[Anonymous No.6137809]

>>6136372
You DON'T make art to make pretty pictures, this concept has been dead since the invention of the camera, you make art to explain your thoughts, to tell a story, to inspire deep emotions inside the soul, fuck, even coomers actually got the art thing, if you make a picture just for the sake of making a pretty picture, you are already lost, AI is just the final nail.

[Anonymous No.6137817]

>>6137809
>even coomers actually got the art thing
As much as people shit on coomers here, and there's plenty to shit on, this is something they always forget. The coom artists know their art is nothing but a vessel to convey ideas. Some coom artists are quite good at their craft, but it's circumstantial. They're good draftsmen because it enables them to convey their feelings/ideas better.

Miura is a great artist but there's nothing more souless than thinking that's all his legacy comes down to. Art has always been a meme. It's always been about storytelling, even if it comes down to pure base sex.

[Anonymous No.6137833]

>>6137817
For all the seething envy people hold towards coom artists, they tend to forget that "cute" art and the sort are also really popular as well. Or relatable art. Hell, SFW artists that dive into any niche that inspires feel-nice emotions in people tend to do well on twitter from my experience.
This artist, khyleri, has exploded in popularity from a mish-mash of content ranging from slightly pinup-y to comedic art.

[Anonymous No.6137851]

Thanks, OP, for having your comeback post to this board be the 999999999999999999th shit thread about AI to shit up the place.

Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.6137872]

>>6137851
Better than another Pedo/loli/shota thread.

[Anonymous No.6137874]

>>6137851
You’re most welcome.

[Anonymous No.6137878]

>>6137809
I agree that’s true but a lot of this is invented by the viewer not the artist. For example an ai might pair 2 random things which the viewer connects as a story. The viewer supplies the soul.

I disagree about this being related to the invention of the camera. The difference here is that it can capture the beautiful human brush strokes. Copy them from real people sure but nonetheless the viewer can’t tell. There’s more to art than the idea.

There were other things I was going to say but I’m too tired to think them through.

[Anonymous No.6137882]

>>6137833
Coom and memes rebranded with anime girls, a true erudite.

[Anonymous No.6140013]

>>6136372
>Is the general mood panic, apathy, anger?
Yes. All of those. Not because of AI; that is just the natural state of deviantart users.
t. deviantart user.

[Anonymous No.6140667]

>>6140013
Well I was actually asking about /ic/ not DeviantArt. There’s very little panic on DeviantArt.

[Anonymous No.6140677]

>>6137151
So you're saying we won't need to keep the 6 artists we have in our studios and instead only keep 1 maybe 2? Or am I reading it wrong?

[Anonymous No.6140681]

>>6137151
>ai can only iterate off what already exists
just like humans

[Anonymous No.6140685]

>>6136372
Yesterday AI Parti was announced-Its 4 weeks old and its already better than all the other AIs combined.
Now I am concerned.

[Anonymous No.6140686]

>AI thread #9846544554645
fucking discord fujotrannies shitting up my board agen

I fail to see what they even get out of spamming this shit.
Anyway, cue the schizocopeprojectionobsessedtranniesarenotreal spam, i don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.6140704]

>>6140686
jesus christ will you quit whining you little bitch

[Anonymous No.6140707]

>>6140704
Do not say his name in vain, sinner.
May the lord smite you for the filthy groomer tranny you are.

[Anonymous No.6140712]

>>6140707
jesus christ eating mary ass while joseph masturbates in the corner and moses takes a shit

[Anonymous No.6140715]

>>6140712
>the fujotranny reveals his final unholy form
begone ye, abomination, before i smack you with this cross.

[Anonymous No.6140743]

>>6140681
humans can do it without 10k+ examples in front of their face and can break the bounds if they want to to add their own touch, ai can only do it within those bounds. what are they called fzd school or something, that concept artist mill, one of their assignments is a spaceship but with minor changes on each one that make them distinct but the same, ai with the right feature set could easily plow though that shit, but you would need an artist to make the first inspiration but after that ai generation options.

>>6140677
depends on what the artists are there for, but for the most part no, you would still need the 6, jus that they may be able to piece work together a bit faster. till a human touch is no longer needed, which I honestly don't think will ever really happen, you will need the humans.

[Anonymous No.6140753]

>>6140743
AIs aren't looking at 10k images when creating new images you dumbdumb, go read their papers on how it works

[Anonymous No.6140761]

>>6136372
Photobashing machine that exponentially degrades in quality as you give it more specific and esoteric prompts
Only being talked about because of some good marketing, little to no practical industrial use

[Anonymous No.6142307]

>>6140753
yea they are pulling from millions if not hundreds of millions of images. but if you want X done in Y style, its significantly lowering the amount they can do.

[Anonymous No.6142313]

Petition to start banning AI threads, with maximum 1 thread at a time.

[Anonymous No.6142345]

>>6136377
>scared shitless
The media will never quit

Allegro fueled with discontent
Mortal traffic lights signalling when to stay or go
Condescending expendables botched to a clock
Novice to the dilemma with nothing clever left in stock

Straws in the wind, is it all ending?
Straws in the wind, is it all ending?
Like a blunder brewing full to the brim
I can hear Hell's kitchen and they're singing hymns

[Anonymous No.6142368]

>>6142313
So you want us to ignore the threat? Typical amerimutt behavior.