Okay bros, redpill me on Photoshop vs Clip Studio Paint

[Anonymous No.6115302]

Context:
I'm kinda newish to digital art and just got myself a tablet but I want to use another drawing program (currently using Krita).

I want to take my hobby seriously from here on, and I've planned looking up learning material and stuff, for most digital stuff I've seen Photoshop being used (most tutorials, speedpaints, artist portfolios, are PS based. That being said I hate their suscribe-model product, so an alternative is Clipstudio, I've seen good reviews and comparisons but I'm still in doubt. So according to all of that, Ic/ I seek your help, what should I do? Also if you know of other good programs be it paid or free share them here

[Anonymous No.6115322]

>>6115302
Clip studio
>1 time fee forever, get all the updates
>big community
>lots of lineart and comic focus
>tends to suck when it comes to colors and brushes (functional but large brushes can lag especially with many large layers)

Photoshop
>you're a cuck
>plenty of resources
>use an outdated version or pay up monthly
>doesn't shit itself when painting
>a few extra features csp doesn't have

[Anonymous No.6115353]

>>6115322
>use an outdated version or pay up monthly
I still use the 2019 version and it fullfil all my needs. Being outdate doesnt matter

[Anonymous No.6115354]

>>6115302
I'd say get Clip Studio Paint at first and just try it out. It is on sale until like the 21st and the Pro version is around 25 bucks I think so it's really nit much for a program used by many professionals

[Anonymous No.6115368]

>>6115302
Pirate either, but clip studio is more comfy, photoshop is more powerful but uncomfy

[Anonymous No.6115388]

i use photoshop because im more familiar with it for general photo editing, but it's kind of an obnoxious piece of shit if you just want to draw. you have to make a custom keybind to flip the canvas for example. stuff like that.

i also remember it being a huge pain in the ass to pirate, but it was definitely worth it for me. easy choice if you're interested in anything beyond just drawing imo

[Anonymous No.6115411]

>>6115322
This plus CSP also has features PS doesn't have, like the built in 3D editor and an infinitely better animation timeline (with EX).
I also really like the easy colorize and border layer buttons.

LazyNezumi doesn't hook into CSP as good though.

>>6115388
I remember needing autohotkey to set up quick flip and rotate shortcuts in Photoshop.
Shit like
>save mouse position
>set mouse to center - y50
>hold R + left mouse
>drag mouse at X speed
>release buttons and return to saved position

In CSP flipping and 15 degree rotation are just built in shortcuts.

[Anonymous No.6115418]

>>6115411
I really wish they'd put out a desktop version of Procreate. Seems like the only software that puts individual artists first.
>Photoshop only cares about photo retouchers and boomers that have used it for decades
>CSP only cares about the manga/animation studios that use it and bow to their feature requests before any filthy gaijin get their turn
>Krita is still bugged and the lead developers are stuck too far up their own asses to listen to the users
And then you have the software that nobody uses because that software is constantly trying to play catch up with the rest.

[Anonymous No.6115458]

>>6115302
I bought CSP but haven’t bothered to learn it because
>I’m already familiar with PS
>I hear CSP uses those “single core” stuff and I’m afraid my old computer won’t be able to handle it
>I hear that CSP is better for line art, PS is better for painting, and I ultimately want to paint
About the shortcuts, at first I also found the idea of setting it up annoying but it’s not that difficult. You’d probably want to customize stuff anyway, to fit your workflow better.
I do plan to also learn CSP eventually, but I just want to focus on learning how to draw and paint right now
My photoshop is a pirated 2019 version.

[Anonymous No.6115462]

unrelated, how important is it to "learn" the art programs?
I use CSP but I literally just use the gpen and watercolor brush when i need to blend.

[Anonymous No.6115473]

>>6115462
Extremely important. Youll save time and achieve your goals faster

[Anonymous No.6115475]

>>6115302
I'd might give Affinity Photo a try. Same ballpark price wise with Clip Paint but with the versatility of Photoshop. I've been using it for a while and I don't feel like I'm missing any features from Adobe's offerings. It's 50 bucks but it goes on sale 3-4 times a year for 25.

[Anonymous No.6115533]

>>6115458
Ever since dual brushes and the ability to import abr's CSP is as good for painting as Photoshop is, it just performs slightly worse. Just download Greg Rutowki's brushes and delete the brushes that didn't transfer correctly and you'll be good to go painting-wise.

[Anonymous No.6115547]

>>6115302
Idk man I have both and prefer CSP cuz lf the UI/UX. Ofc you should pirate photoshop if you wanna use it

[Anonymous No.6115571]

>>6115302
Photoshop
>Old program everyone uses because it used to be the popular option and everyone sticked to it to this day. Just like with Paint tool sai.
>The software hasn't changed much in over a decade, they keep adding new features, sure, but the engine and underlying code is still old.
>It's a good photo, image editing and photobashing software, I still use it when I need some of it's unique tools like quick selection and content aware fill.
>The person who started the whole "lets use it for drawing and painting" was the biggest retard ever.

>Subscription model but doesn't matter since you can pirate it.

>CSP
>Good for comics and manga. 90% of Japanese artists use it for manga and doujinshi and commercial magazines. the other 10% are probably big name artists being paid by adobe to use and promote photoshop.
>Some tools are weird and have too much customization for some people to handle.
>A$$et store that allows users to go full jew and start charging useless digital currency for assets, you can't convert this digital points into actual real world currency, so it makes no actual sense.

>Never pay full price, always wait for sale.
>$25 dollars for PRO
>Wait for another sale and then it's $84 or so for EX version upgrade, But I don't recommend going EX unless you work for a physical magazine or really need or want mulipage documents (it's just an index file that helps you magnage individual .csp files inside a folder)
>if you are considering Ex for animation please look elsewhere, there';s better software for that, and CSP has some weird way to manage layers and frames.
>Subscription model on anything other than Windows/Mac.

[Anonymous No.6115579]

Photoshop
>Old program everyone uses because it used to be the popular option and everyone sticked to it to this day. Just like with Paint tool sai.
>The software hasn't changed much in over a decade, they keep adding new features, sure, but the engine and underlying code is still old.
>It's a good photo, image editing and photobashing software, I still use it when I need some of it's unique tools like quick selection and content aware fill.
>The person who started the whole "lets use it for drawing and painting" was the biggest retard ever.

>Subscription model but doesn't matter since you can pirate it.

CSP
>Good for comics and manga. 90% of Japanese artists use it for manga and doujinshi and commercial magazines. the other 10% are probably big name artists being paid by adobe to use and promote photoshop.
>Some tools are weird and have too much customization for some people to handle.
>A$$et store that allows users to go full jew and start charging useless digital currency for assets, you can't convert this digital points into actual real world currency, so it makes no actual sense.

>Never pay full price, always wait for sale.
>$25 dollars for PRO
>Wait for another sale and then it's $84 or so for EX version upgrade, But I don't recommend going EX unless you work for a physical magazine or really need or want mulipage documents (it's just an index file that helps you magnage individual .csp files inside a folder)
>if you are considering Ex for animation please look elsewhere, there';s better software for that, and CSP has some weird way to manage layers and frames.
>Subscription model on anything other than Windows/Mac.

[Anonymous No.6115598]

CSP isn't very fast, the UI is garbage, the selection tool is not good even SAI has a better selection tool where you can switch from free to polygonal.

[Anonymous No.6115605]

>>6115598
>CSP isn't very fast
It's got some hitches with the brush engine but it starts up reasonably fast at least, and while running Ive never had it lock up or crash like Ive had with photoshop/
>UI is garbage
For the most part it mirrors Photoshop's UI and it allows you to have a lot more shortcut freedom
>SAI has a better selection tool where you can switch from free to polygonal.
If you want this you can have two tools in the same category (pol and free selection), give them the same shortcut and pressing that shortcut will toggle you between the two tools.

I will say that the CSP transform tools are laggy garbage though and their only saving grace is that you can transform multiple selected layers. If you can't live without puppet warp when CSP is definitely not your program.

[Anonymous No.6115634]

Autodesk Sketchbook could've been the greatest pure drawing program if they actually cared to update it, it was extremely fast, straight to the point, minimal UI taking up space, great brush engine. It felt great sketching on it.

However they never added shortcuts for certain tools making it a pain in the ass if you weren't using a touch device and the pen pressure only worked with Wacom devices. I'm still sad about it.

Krita is still a fucking mess. The default brushes don't feel good at all, everything feels sluggish.

CSP is alright, takes some time to get used to all the menus. Great for lineart, lots of extra tools like the pose scanner, tons of brushes and materials you can download. Not so good for painting but it does the job.

SAI is the closest thing to Sketchbook in how it feels to draw, very snappy and fast. UI is easy to work with. Good tools. The default brushes aren't that great however.

Medibang is a poor man's CSP, the UI is awful and lots of things are untranslated.

[Anonymous No.6115731]

>>6115605
CSP has that utilitarian UI where you know it was designed by the programmers.

[Anonymous No.6115943]

>>6115302
The answer depends on what you want to make.
Do you want to make comics or line art focused drawings? Then CSP is probably going to be nicer to use, because that's what it's designed for, though PS isn't terrible for this either. Do you want to make paintings? PS has the advantage, but CSP isn't terrible for it either. Do you want to make graphic/pencil sketches? Then stick to analogue.
If you don't know what you want to do then PS is probably the more versatile tool, and it's better for non-drawing stuff too. I use CSP and sometimes wish I'd be bothered to install PS for non-art stuff.

[Anonymous No.6116587]

photoshop. lmao imagine imitating PS but it's still awful

[Anonymous No.6116591]

>>6115411
>3D
Photoshop already had this feature before csp had this

[Anonymous No.6116605]

>>6116587
Why can't I paint with transparency in Photoshop
I haven't used an eraser brush in years

>>6116591
Really?

[Anonymous No.6116625]

I need a program to animate hand drawn game assets, mostly just few frames long, is CSP okay for that?

[Anonymous No.6116631]

>>6116605
>I paint with transparency in Photoshop
?? like wut?

[Anonymous No.6116632]

>>6115302
I can't be the only one who finds Photoshop to be torture for anything other than liquifying and airbrushing photos?

[Anonymous No.6116633]

>>6116591
>>6116605
Photoshop abandoned 3d because it works like shit

[Anonymous No.6116637]

>>6116633
CSP is also shit, takes too long to pose compared to proper programs

[Anonymous No.6116642]

>>6116633
yeah, but Photoshop already had it before CSP, >>6115411 this nigga said >CSP also has features PS doesn't have, like the built in 3D kek

[Anonymous No.6116644]

>>6116631
You switch between using your primary and secondary colors with X in Photoshop, right?
In CSP you press C to switch to transparency as well.

[Anonymous No.6116648]

>>6116642
Why don't you set up a 3D scene and character in Photoshop for me? I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.6116654]

>>6116637
uhhh.. no it doesn't? Their base models do suck though

[Anonymous No.6116658]

PhotoshopChads don’t need 3d models to draw

[Anonymous No.6116660]

>>6116654
Their limb dragging isn't great

[Anonymous No.6116661]

>>6116658
>I don't NEED
AdobeCucks are the worst

[Anonymous No.6116663]

>>6115302
DALLE-3

[Anonymous No.6116664]

>>6116644
here, see, like what >>6116633 this anon said
>>6116644
it's basically eraser brushes, so CSP has made transparent brushes

[Anonymous No.6116668]

>>6116644
forget pic, you can also use brushes to erase, smudge

[Anonymous No.6116673]

>>6116664
It's not eraser brushes, it's erasing with whatever damn brush I want, preferably the same one I'm painting with. Makes erased areas look perfectly the same as the rest.
I guess you could just manually create a duplicate brush and set it as your eraser? Too long.

I've never played with Photoshop's 3D shit, can you adjust the focal length and lights?
I assume you need Blender to set a character's poses, or can you import an object with a skeleton and use Photoshop?

[Anonymous No.6116674]

>>6116664
meant to this anon >>6116648
this sensei also do 3D painting on PS
>https://youtu.be/ZydZ72iUKDQ

[Anonymous No.6116675]

>>6115302
boomer vs zoomer

[Anonymous No.6116679]

Inlike cleaning up my tradwork or scan my sketches so I use photoshop more

[Anonymous No.6116680]

>>6116673
if you meant this, in PS, it's just an eraser. if you meant opacity, PS has it as well
>I guess you could just manually create a duplicate brush and set it as your eraser? Too long.
no, just click eraser tool and pick a brush you want (in CSP, you have to switch to transparency)

[Anonymous No.6116693]

Only Appletards use photoshop. Nuff said.

[Anonymous No.6116694]

>>6116680
But you can't erase with any brush. If you select a normal brush, it won't erase.

[Anonymous No.6116698]

>>6115302
Go the route of seven seas and yarr yarr CSP

[Anonymous No.6116706]

>>6116680
Just opened Photoshop, I never actually noticed the "clear" option on the brushes.
Everything else in the list is just blend modes, so I just assumed it was a redundant option I'd never need since I always just changed the blend mode at the layer itself.

There's no shortcut option for it, though, so I guess you'd have to use autohotkey to assign Alt + Shift + R and Alt + Shift + N to something a normal person would use.

[Anonymous No.6116712]

>>6115353
>Being outdate doesnt matter
It matters when you get to see the same splash art every time you boot the program for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.6116715]

>>6116694
>>6116706
just click eraser tool and choose normal brushes you want to switch to eraser mode

[Anonymous No.6116724]

>>6116715
When I open erasers, I can choose any brush that is an eraser. If I click a non eraser brush, it switches to brush tool.
Maybe this is a version difference? I have 2020.

[Anonymous No.6116743]

>>6116724
if the brushes have a small icon at the top right like a brush, smudge or erases icon, that means it's specifically only for that tool, but if the brushes don't have one, these can be used for eraser and smudge tool

[Anonymous No.6116792]

I always hated using Photoshop for drawing, but why do people say it's better for painting than CSP? Something to do with the brushes?

[Anonymous No.6116809]

>>6116792
I don't use Photoshop, but CSP lags like shit if you use custom brush tips and/or textured brushes at larger sizes. I hear it's something related to not having multithreading.

[Anonymous No.6116813]

>>6116792
Photoshop is
>muh two world wars
of drawing software

In reality, Photoshop is no longer leagues ahead of everyone else, and is stagnating with all the other Adobe software.
Every other software is going to function basically the same as Photoshop, with most having feature parity or greater.

Even ignoring price (~$50 vs ~$20/month), I don't think Photoshop has anything meaningful to offer over CSP.
Supposedly CSP struggles with hypercomplex brushes, but I've never had any issues with it.

[Anonymous No.6116841]

>>6116792
because PS can paint like this, CSP? i doubt

[Anonymous No.6116874]

>>6116841
I'll grant that CSP isn't the pinnacle of emulating traditional media, but it's not terrible.
https://www.zhillustrator.com/
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4blb3k

[Anonymous No.6116878]

>>6116841
There is nothing CSP lacks that would prevent you from making a painting like that unless you insist on using something like a 10k canvas and blendy 500px+ brushes and a lot of puppet warps.

[Anonymous No.6116891]

>>6116878
post one that looks like this >>6116841

[Anonymous No.6116896]

>>6116878
12k is often used in the entertainment industry now, then reduced to 4k if it's matte paintings

[Anonymous No.6116899]

>>6116891
Anon, can you post your work that looks like this >>6116841 ?
You'd obviously be bottlenecked by CSP's inferior brush engine, so making something better than >>6116874 in Photoshop should be fairly easy.

[Anonymous No.6116915]

>>6115302
photoshop because RuanGOD uses it

[Anonymous No.6116919]

>>6116915
go back to work chink

[Anonymous No.6117096]

>>6115411
>animation
that's not fair to PS because it's notoriously miserable for animation BUT there are also plugins that kinda patch like 90% of the problems with it
still clunky as shit but honestly it's like expecting a swiss army knife to break a safe, technically doable but no one who animates for a living would be caught dead using it

[Anonymous No.6117104]

>>6116841
How do I make a brush emulate those traditional '' impasto" strokes?

[Anonymous No.6117111]

>>6116874
>recreate trad painting
>add random DoF blur
how can someone be so competent feel compelled to compromise their work with such a pointless quirk

[Anonymous No.6117214]

>>6115302
I still use PS CS6 and see no reason to change

[Anonymous No.6117232]

>>6116841
>paint
don't you mean photobashing?

[Anonymous No.6117506]

>>6117232
>good painting must be photobashing
>le photobashing bad
listen here beglet, even CSP teaches you how to photobash.
Greg Rutkowski just has decent brushes

[Anonymous No.6117520]

>>6117104
his brushes
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xzPXOm

[Anonymous No.6117538]

>>6116706
hold the ` key

[Anonymous No.6117562]

>>6115411
>I remember needing autohotkey to set up quick flip and rotate shortcuts in Photoshop.
>Shit like
>>save mouse position
>>set mouse to center - y50
>>hold R + left mouse
>>drag mouse at X speed
>>release buttons and return to saved position
>In CSP flipping and 15 degree rotation are just built in shortcuts

ive never heard of these shortcuts/actions can someone explain what they do?

[Anonymous No.6117567]

>>6117562
First off: are you using your drawing buttplug?

[Anonymous No.6117572]

>>6115579
>if you are considering Ex for animation please look elsewhere, there';s better software for that, and CSP has some weird way to manage layers and frames
Name few best choices for those.
>tv.paint
>opentoonz
Idk if these are the best or just a meme

[Anonymous No.6117575]

>>6115302
I have both

[Anonymous No.6117605]

>>6117572
I use CSP for animation because I'm used to the workflow and features, but Opentoonz's timeline and animation tools are way easier to use. Heard good things about TVPaint but I haven't tried it myself.

[Anonymous No.6117636]

>>6117506
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xzPXOm
looks like garbage

[Anonymous No.6117644]

>>6117636
>garbage
ok bro, try to use any brushes that are close to his on csp and paint it like picrel

[Anonymous No.6117672]

>>6117644
you can literally import his brushes to CSP if you want, most work fine.

[Anonymous No.6117673]

Give me one relevant and top tier artist who mainly uses CSP
>pro tip
You can’t. They all use Photoshop
Sargent would also use photoshop by the way

[Anonymous No.6117691]

>>6117673
but im not a top tier artist so why should i use their tools

[Anonymous No.6117697]

>>6117672
yeah, just paint it like this >>6117644. you and csp can't

[Anonymous No.6117702]

isn't krita good enough

[Anonymous No.6117703]

You want a redpill anon? It DOESN'T matter what software you are using right now. What matters is that you're drawing. If you want something more powerful then go with Clip Studio. I use PS and I recently tried Clip Studio. Clip Studio actually has some really interesting features like 3d asset staging. It's a pretty damn decent software for its price. The real red pill here is that you must draw. Don't be that person who buys all the fancy gym clothes but never visits the gym. Don't be that artist that needs all the fancy tools before they even begin to focus on drawing or painting. Pick whatever is most convenient to you and draw. That's the fucking redpill anon. Just. Fucking. Draw. It will put you ahead of everybody jerking off in these comments about a tool. Just. Fucking. Draw.

[Anonymous No.6117705]

>>6117703
basado

[Anonymous No.6117716]

>>6117703
>bought ring fit last year and put maybe 10 hours into it before giving in to laziness
maybe I should boot it up again

[Anonymous No.6117784]

>>6115368

basically that.

CSP has alot of customizability.
Great brush settings.
Shit performance, non GPU.

Photoshop has limited customization.
Limited brush settings.
Great performance, GPU.

[Anonymous No.6117791]

>>6115302
Photoshop
>Industry Standard
>Used by Pros
>Doesn't held your hand, stoic, the chads choice
Clip Studio Paint
>Safe, soft, modern, femenine
>Will guide you around like a mother, will keep you childish forever
>Only used by beg animefaggots with 2D waifus
Easy choice

[Anonymous No.6117824]

>>6117562
It's an AutoHotKey script
idk what you mean cause I explained what it did

[Anonymous No.6117827]

>>6117673
Are you a relevant and top tier artist, anon?
https://www.artstation.com/search?sort_by=likes&query=Clip%20studio%20paint

[Anonymous No.6117831]

>>6115302
What's wrong with Krista?
It works great on my 8y old laptop.

[Anonymous No.6117840]

>>6117831
The brushes suck.

[Anonymous No.6117844]

>>6117840
nta but i'm genuinely curious what are some "good" brushes examples? i've only used the basic hard square and round brushes until now

[Anonymous No.6117845]

>>6117840
But I can pretty much make my own brush in krita

[Anonymous No.6117910]

>>6117827
>top results were art by literally-whos and were commissioned by CSP
KEK

[Anonymous No.6118240]

>>6117824
where can i learn more about those scripts you mention can you show a demonstration

[Anonymous No.6118245]

>>6115411
what the hell is save mouse position how the hell does that work?

[Anonymous No.6118251]

>>6117506
Photobashing in CSP is pure pain, I would even put GIMP of all programs above CSP for photobashing

[Anonymous No.6118266]

>>6118240
>>6118245
I still have the script, so I recorded what it did.
It's a script to drag the canvas around with WASD one my one handed keyboard

Turns out I misremembered, and I never actually figured out how to rotate with it? or it sucked and I deleted it, idk

AHK is kinda complicated at first, but it's actually fairly simple. You just have to read the built in wiki thing.
https://pastebin.com/VvMhyvY7

[Anonymous No.6119927]

does anyone know a way to change the color surrounding the canvas in CSP? I know where to change the interface color from light to dark in the preferences, but is there a way to change it to, for example, dark blue?

[Anonymous No.6119938]

>>6115302
photoshop is made for photo editing and digital art is an afterthought. CSP all the way

[Anonymous No.6119975]

>>6115302
Has CSP fixed this shit yet?

[Anonymous No.6119979]

Where does Affinity Photo come in?

[Anonymous No.6119982]

Why do people keep ignoring Photoshop's biggest advantage?

Photoshop's performance absolutely blows CSP out of the water. It actually utilizes GPU acceleration making it silky smooth to use.

[Anonymous No.6119984]

>>6119975
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.6120232]

>>6119984
this is what I expect(PS)

[Anonymous No.6120235]

>>6119975
No, it's ancient jap tech, it's not going to improve

[Anonymous No.6120839]

>>6115418
here is the way I see it.

you want to paint digitally, csp is all you need. I just loaded it up to see when brushes get too laggy, on a 5000x5000 canvas, you can use 2000 pixel brushes, that lags, the biggest that doesn't have to much lag would be about 500 but it really depends on how fast you paint, as you are not paying fast with a 2000 brush, and you aren't making sweeping motions with a 500 pixel brush, the biggest with no lag whatsoever is 200 pixels on a amd 1700

there is also afinity photo, on 25000x15000 it will shit the bed at lower brush sizes however it will perfectly render the briush strokes rather than csp that will stamp them noticeably.

rabelle and art rage both limit you on max brush size for a lag reason, along with wanting to mimic real paints its biggest brush is 100 pixels, but god damn does it look good/real

art rage, fuck knows the biggest size, but god damn does it run smooth.

as for photoshop... haven't used it in so long I cant remember how big it gets before it starts to lag.

[Anonymous No.6120841]

>>6119982
The irony being that CSP works better on laptops and mobile for the same reason

[Anonymous No.6121180]

>>6120841
see >>6119975 (csp) and >>6120232 (ps)

[Anonymous No.6121244]

Paint Tool SAI is literally free (35 bucks for a license).

[Anonymous No.6121288]

>>6121180
in csp, you could have just dragged the "center mark" (idk what its called) from where you want it to rotate.

[Anonymous No.6121342]

>>6121288
that's not the issue, CSP doesn't smoothly update the preview as you rotate.

[Anonymous No.6121367]

>>6121288
>thinking this is wow and should be appreciated
kek

[Anonymous No.6121547]

>>6121180
>replying to someone who had nothing to do with your original posts
Imagine being such a desperate little idiot.

[Anonymous No.6121604]

>>6121547
here (you)

[Anonymous No.6121623]

which one is better for vector work?
captcha: JPGG8

[Anonymous No.6121821]

>>6115322
Also add to the photoshop list that its unoptimized and runs like shit compared to clip studio. I guess it has to do with the fact that it has so many features in it, but that is not an excuse in the end of the day

[Anonymous No.6123245]

>>6115475
>Affinity Photo
Can't lock layer transparency in an easy way (only through an idiotic menu three or four levels deep). Color picker is diseased and cannot work at all in non-rgb modes (try colour picking from your layer in linear colour mode and the result is completely dependent on whether you recently alt-tabbed from a different program), nor does the "pick only from current layer" option work. Way too many menus and dropdowns for things which should have a button or hotkey. The bizarre insistence on having basic colour wheel features on different tabs (instead of everything in one dialog like photoshop or CSP) and limiting the colour wheel to the size of a postage stamp, especially in dialogues like the gradient editor.

[Anonymous No.6123250]

This thread is pointless. If you pay for a license to use something you are scum and will soon be living in a rent-a-box eating bugs

[Anonymous No.6123255]

>>6115634
>Krita is still a fucking mess. The default brushes don't feel good at all, everything feels sluggish.
I remember needing to make a few things at around 8000x4000px. CSP handles it fine, I even had like 50 layers (lots of 3d game textures that needed to be coordinated with each other) and it was okay when I selectively turned off or merged the ones I wasn't working on. On a five year old surface pro with 4GB memory.

Affinity Photo handled the same size just as well, with less layers but in 32bit linear mode (for a heightmap).

Krita choked on three layers at that size. Pressing the layer visibility button on one empty layer made Krita hang for over a minute, and then accidentally pressing the same button again made it hang for another minute, indicating that Krita didn't even cache the layer information in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.6123560]

>>6119975
>>6121342

I think it's because CSP still doesn't use the computer's gpu. so there's no vsync and it's causes screen tearing. If it ever adds gpu and multi threading support there will never be a reason to use anything else