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beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread || Shot through the heart edition Anonymous Mon Jun 13 15:31:06 2022 No.6107883 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER OR /INT/ERMEDIATE IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- Keys to drawing
- Perspective made easy
- Figure - Design and invention
- Pen and Ink

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uxMdokX68

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>>6104254

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:02:10 2022 No.6107932 File: 449 KB, 848x1412, 292.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:27:55 2022 No.6107970 >>6107932 Something feels off, maybe the head and ears are too big? Feet too small? Something with the proportions

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:29:25 2022 No.6107975 File: 652 KB, 1079x974, 6B3953FC-717A-4B76-A852-B421CAF3EF0A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP I found a cute snail ref

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:38:39 2022 No.6107995

>>6107970
Maybe, I'm doing in this style because the proportions are weird and I need to think on the perspective so I just simply automatic draw what I already knows it works. I don't see anything too weird, but I'm wait a little and see if I can spot any mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:44:57 2022 No.6108002 >>6107975 what's the thing on top

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:48:47 2022 No.6108009 File: 1.28 MB, 1171x974, cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6107975 Verry cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:49:53 2022 No.6108012 File: 789 KB, 1200x1059, enviroment04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:54:00 2022 No.6108018 File: 416 KB, 1000x1000, loomis2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here. Fun With a Pencil: Part 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 16:59:30 2022 No.6108030 File: 293 KB, 924x897, Lich.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to draw metal stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:00:57 2022 No.6108031 File: 224 KB, 762x570, MomxMarieframe5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have no idea how to draw the futa cock inside the pussy in a similar pose instead of the butt.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:06:34 2022 No.6108040

>try to draw a face 5 times
>5th try is passable, rest are shit
>have absolutely no idea why or what I can do to make it come out right the first time, it’s literally fucking random
Drawing is the most cursed thing to exist on this fucking planet
>”Loomis”
Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:08:04 2022 No.6108042 will I get good at construction if I keep sketching boxmen while paying attention to perspective?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:08:40 2022 No.6108044 >>6108031 References my guy. Just look through random futa doujins, you’ll probably stumble on something useful. Pretty solid linework. Even though your drawing is /beg/ I already get the feeling from it that you have a good eye. Keep grinding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:11:08 2022 No.6108049 >>6108009 :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:12:09 2022 No.6108051 >>6108018 Godspeed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:17:43 2022 No.6108064 File: 1.69 MB, 3000x5657, vaskisummer2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:23:17 2022 No.6108075
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>>6107883
Finally forever immortalized as a /beg/. I was doing a different study so I didn't work on this one much further, but I'll probably finish it maybe tomorrow. It's so comforting painting zoomed out with big shapes not having to worry about detail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:30:45 2022 No.6108087 >>6108009 Thanks Fren, love it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:47:33 2022 No.6108119 >>6108064 Looks like a man’s body

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:49:22 2022 No.6108122 File: 336 KB, 1484x785, IMG_20220613_194701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How close am I? Why does it look so much worse after erasing the pencil sketch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:51:11 2022 No.6108124 >>6108031 bitch ass GOOSEb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 17:52:12 2022 No.6108126 >>6108119 he's scared of coom

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:03:01 2022 No.6108138 File: 191 KB, 1578x912, sams.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108122 The eye looks too big and the nose is in a different position

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:04:47 2022 No.6108141 File: 205 KB, 1850x1642, IMG_0365-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Errors?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:08:00 2022 No.6108145 >>6108141 Numerous

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:09:50 2022 No.6108148 File: 587 KB, 2330x2426, IMG_20220613_200809~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108122 Went ahead and markered him

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:10:28 2022 No.6108151
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Some ref practice turned into a shitpost when a certain video came up on my playlist. I don’t have any progress to report, it just made me giggle to do this, and I guess a question on how to make sure hair flows the way I want it to when I’m having to reverse engineer refs for BG characters. I want to pose them in more stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:10:52 2022 No.6108152 >>6108138 Thanks anon, appreciate the pic especially

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:22:18 2022 No.6108165 With the breakthrough of DALL E 2, why are you still trying to learn to draw or paint?

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:24:49 2022 No.6108167
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>>6108151
Refs for comparison. Everyone but the main guy was just a joke so I didn’t try with them, but I would like to get good with the smug green guy’s hair, since one of the more main characters is going to have a big hair style too.

Hair is so fucking cool, it’s such a descriptive part of characters, I want to get better at drawing that.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:24:55 2022 No.6108168

Did a 30 minute "class mode" gesture session this morning. These two aren't total dog shit, and that's interesting to me because I haven't done gesture or any sort of figure drawing in about a month. This is the first time I've done one of these after a long gap and got a halfway decent result the first time. Does that mean I'm improving?.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:25:34 2022 No.6108170 File: 82 KB, 756x1008, 20220613_071528_copy_756x1008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108168 Woops forgot the images

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:26:05 2022 No.6108171 File: 97 KB, 756x1008, 20220613_071535_copy_756x1008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108170

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:28:44 2022 No.6108174

>>6108165
AI art is soulless and has a noticeable stink about it. DALL-E 2 can do a reasonable facsimile of various artists' style with a prompt, but it can't express anything deeper than that or capture the same details as a human artist.

All that aside if you're even asking that question you're definitely NGMI because you're drawing for the wrong reasons in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:29:05 2022 No.6108175 File: 349 KB, 1000x1000, perse and cerb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] back to the mines

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:29:45 2022 No.6108176 >>6108171 Nice job on the hip and leg area here anon. You will soon begin to feel the form

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:30:59 2022 No.6108179 >>6108175 Can you draw me being dragged by her also? I look like a creepier version of Raoh from hokuto no ken.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:31:14 2022 No.6108180 >>6108174 Just how deluded are you? Even in its infancy D2 can paint better than anyone on this board already. You obviously didn't see D2 painting and 2 art.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:33:59 2022 No.6108184 File: 84 KB, 386x787, lamm ybasck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] got really drunk and tried rendering

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:39:38 2022 No.6108194 >>6108145 Which are?? I only see the head being a bit too small

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:41:49 2022 No.6108196 >>6108170 Talented artist with great proportions. >>6108171 Constructioncuck with bad proportions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:42:25 2022 No.6108197 >>6108151 Stop sketching so dark

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:44:32 2022 No.6108198 >>6108196 It's not actually construction, just God awful shitty horrible terrible attempts at wrapping lines

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:45:01 2022 No.6108199 >>6108040 >thinks artists always get things right on the first try artists do studies, rough sketches, thumbnails you're only just now figuring that out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:45:14 2022 No.6108201 When making copies, it's hard to feel the form since I spend so much time and attention on copying the exact lines. How do I cope with this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:48:15 2022 No.6108205 >>6108201 big to small. focus on the bigger detail like gesture/pose then work on the small one like faces.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:51:08 2022 No.6108211 >>6108180 You're the delusional one, who thinks art is about skillchecks. DALL-E might "mog" most /ic/ posters if both were told to PYW, but its ability to accomplish fine and specific goals with its art is severely limited.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:52:11 2022 No.6108213

>>6108165
Let me know when you can use the AI to illustrate a full manga chapter without needing to draw anything.
Once the initial shock wears off, you realize that there’s still a shit ton that the AI still can’t do (it mangles faces and hands pretty bad), and may never be able to do, because of the inherent indeterminacy in translating an image into a verbal description.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 18:56:58 2022 No.6108224 >>6108165 BECAUSE I JUST FUCKING WANT TO YOU TECHIE FAG. GO BACK TO /AIA/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:01:39 2022 No.6108232 File: 18 KB, 254x304, 8A755843-63C0-49E1-9C08-AF8278CB69A7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >how do i get better >just draw >draw >still shit what gives?

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:08:06 2022 No.6108240

>>6108213
>because of the inherent indeterminacy in translating an image into a verbal description.
BUT I SAID STEVEN UNIVERSE IN THE STYLE OF FRANK FRAZETTA AND IT LOOKED LIKE FRANK FRAZETTA DREW STEVEN UNIVERSE JUST LIKE MAGIC WE'RE ALL OUT OF A JOB REEEEE
Like I said anon doesn't understand that art isn't about skillchecks and that unless the AI can produce EXACTLY the image you want, consistently, from verbal descriptions, it's useless for anything real artists currently do. It's like a fable about why you shouldn't spend all your time on /ic/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:12:06 2022 No.6108245 I can't draw digitally for the life of me. Should i stick to pencil and paper while i'm learning the basics? I am at chapter 3 of 'Keys to drawing' currently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:15:33 2022 No.6108250 >>6108232 you haven't drawn enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:18:23 2022 No.6108254 File: 381 KB, 1252x1138, roahcuteandfunny.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108179

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:27:50 2022 No.6108273 >>6108232 learning the fundamentals can help understand how to draw, that way you're not drawing without a goal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:28:53 2022 No.6108276 >>6108040 asaro head helps when actually creating the face and not just some vague head shape.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:30:19 2022 No.6108280
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Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 3

>>6108051
Thanks a lot, I'm hoping this will eventually lead to some kind of improvement; not really used to drawing sort of blobby, misshapen old men this book starts out with. At the very least I'll be able to say I actually spent time on Loomis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:31:13 2022 No.6108283 >>6108245 do both, they're just tools. the skills from one transfer to another. PYW digital and pencil nerd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:39:10 2022 No.6108296 File: 81 KB, 935x684, googly chad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yo, how do I emulate the googly eye guy's art style? I love his work but I can't capture the feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:42:19 2022 No.6108302 File: 2.68 MB, 3840x2160, rooster.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108283 here's digital. It's a big cock, get it? pencil inc

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:44:48 2022 No.6108304 File: 3.29 MB, 4032x3024, 9DF99431-09CB-43D0-B512-B0F09CC59893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108283 Pencil This was a book exercise for switching between controlled and quick drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:48:41 2022 No.6108312 Is it just me or Fun with a pencil is not really a good book? I feel like he's teaching stuff backwards and halfway. By grinding boxes and cylinders you'll be able to figure out everything taught in fun with pencil except maybe the shadow stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 19:54:24 2022 No.6108318 >>6108302 >>6108304 neither are particularly impressive, the chicken looks like it was traced, and the orchids have a strong symbol drawing vibe. Your drawing what you think is there, and not using your eyes to draw what is there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:00:26 2022 No.6108323 >>6108318 real talk, the chicken was drawn from reference, not traced. I was looking at the orchids a lot and avoiding symbol drawing, but perhaps i failed. ty for the input, i will keep on grinding!

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:02:37 2022 No.6108329
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How long until I can draw nice faces in a matter of minutes?
>>6108184
Is getting drunk the key? Pretty cool
>>6108141
Feels super flat. I wouldn't recommend drawing in profile like that if you can avoid it
>>6108012
Very nice, I feel like there could be some higher values closer to the direction of the sun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:12:11 2022 No.6108344 File: 215 KB, 2200x1392, idk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I get a drawing tablet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:12:54 2022 No.6108347 >>6107932 proportions look good to me the ground plane is tilting though

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:25:28 2022 No.6108367 >>6108197 You mean don’t press so hard with the sketch lines with the pencil next time? I can work on that. Number 2 pencils aren’t bad for sketches I assume, right? I tried to use kneading eraser on the sketches too for them, but it wasn’t coming off.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:28:29 2022 No.6108374
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Does anyone here just completely ignore observational drawing? Im so focused on construction and drawing from imagination, that I haven't worked on it al all. Just wanted opinions on if it's Worth working on it or not

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:29:02 2022 No.6108376 >>6108344 If you want

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:30:00 2022 No.6108378 >>6108040 postit, jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:31:33 2022 No.6108384 >>6108075 comfy atmosphere :>

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:33:08 2022 No.6108388 >>6108374 Same, sometimes I feel like I should do more observational drawing, but then I just wouldn't draw because I hate it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:33:44 2022 No.6108392 >>6108040 Post your work, maybe we'll be able to tell what's wrong

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:52:32 2022 No.6108436

>>6108388
That's exactly my issue too. I don't think it's particularly hard to measure the angles correctly, it's just long and boring. But Whenever I go to a live figure drawing I look l Ike a fucking beg amateur even though I can probably construct stuff that looks 10 times better.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 20:57:25 2022 No.6108444

>>6108374
You'll learn more from it. I guess it's technically possible to get good entirely through construction if you study it enough but even then you'll be studying it from people who studied observational drawing, anatomy, etc and once you get to that level of nuance you're basically doing observational drawing anyway, just from construction guidelines. But you'd be going around your ass to get to your elbow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:02:36 2022 No.6108450 >>6107883 I really like this. It feels clean and raw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:19:21 2022 No.6108479 >>6108302 >>6108304 these are about the same quality. chicken is more interesting with its varying shapes and such but as other guy said I'd assume it's been traced given your flower drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:34:10 2022 No.6108495 File: 88 KB, 791x785, 1655156050726.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kinda curious why all the threads apart from this one and lsg are dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:35:23 2022 No.6108496 >>6108495 This is fantastic what do you use to learn?

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:39:57 2022 No.6108501
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>>6108075
Sort of a nitpick but thats not exactly how the japanese traditionally drew (pulling back the bow-string) their bows.

There are two main kinds of draw, notably the Mediterranean draw which I think you got the reference from, the thumb draw which everyone else outside of western europe traditionally used (with differing variations).
Pinch draw exists but is significantly less popular.

Asia historically used the thumb draw and the japanese apparently have a special kind of thumb draw according to wikipedia. Shown in pi

This is less of an art nitpick and more of a history nitpick and it is completely plausible the guy you drew just happened to use the Mediterranean draw, but I think you were going for a historical japanese kind of thing.

Overall good work though.

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:41:36 2022 No.6108502

>>6108496
A bit of everything
Full proko course, bridgeman, hogarth, hampton
Stuff like perspective made easy, some anime books, tried copying jung gi and other artists
A bunch of random courses on random topics most of which i dropped at the middle
The last thing i did was some fkey study

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:42:02 2022 No.6108503 >>6108501 which I think you got from the reference* Shown in attached pic.*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:43:07 2022 No.6108504 >>6108495 tonyo's curse on all the dad trannies

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:43:15 2022 No.6108507 File: 63 KB, 736x738, 1655153386564.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108502 Then I guess i'll drop here this one too

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 21:48:37 2022 No.6108514

>>6108501
Yes, the fingers with the half-glove still have to be added so does the woven string back garment that serves as a chin rest. I am by no means done and that detail should have honestly been made clear earlier in the painting process, but thank you for the history lesson I too love details like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:12:17 2022 No.6108539 >>6108296 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:17:34 2022 No.6108544 File: 1.05 MB, 2480x3508, 102CAAEF-15B2-48F1-A856-33CC1A58FF9F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did a very simplified Leyendecker study, he’s such a god bros.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:24:16 2022 No.6108545 when practicing life drawing as a /beg/gar, should I focus on sketching them quickly/within the time limit or as accurately as I can?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:25:35 2022 No.6108546 >>6108545 First accurately, then slowly go quicker. You need to learn accurate first so you know the general shape as you go quicker. As you quicker your lines will feel looser and more natural

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:27:56 2022 No.6108549
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>>6108012
Looks good but i think the bridge looks a bit asymmetrical. Might want to apply focus points, unless the bridge is like that irl.
>>6108030
Unless its meant to be your own original thing, the forearms dont seem to be anatomically correct. Also sorta looks like you rushed the wrists as well. Might want to just slow down a bit and use a skeleton reference.
>>6108151
Compared to your reference, big-hair-guy's eyes seem to be in the wrong position.
>>6108171
Biceps are bit too "round", looks a little unnatural. Pic related
>>6108329
Your top eyelids and eyeballs which you put a bit more detail in is quite jarring compared the rest of the face's more simple features.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:28:34 2022 No.6108550 >>6108546 makes sense, thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 22:33:30 2022 No.6108553 >>6108329 Yea i usually dont but the side profile is important for what im trying to achieve. How do i make it not look super flat tho?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:02:48 2022 No.6108582 >>6108553 show the other breast, it looks like a giant monoboob

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:19:12 2022 No.6108598 >>6108544 Very nice anon

Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:31:42 2022 No.6108607

>>6108549
Hmm, thanks for pointing that out. I feel like doing really simple eyes is just too cartoony, but I didn't think about how it meshes
>>6108553
If you're doing a true profile view then I'm not sure, otherwise just turn her a bit and draw it in sight perspective so it's almost in profile

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:53:24 2022 No.6108617 File: 708 KB, 2500x3000, Ethot_L.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108549 How's this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:55:31 2022 No.6108621 File: 1.15 MB, 3504x2544, ds 2_5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6107883 dynamic sketching week 2 day 5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 13 23:59:50 2022 No.6108629 >>6108621 Aren't those suppose to be like 10 minutes warm up before actual drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:01:21 2022 No.6108632 >>6108621 You've been doing this for like a whole week mate, try actually drawing something

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:18:38 2022 No.6108649 File: 400 KB, 1899x953, track.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you stop colored pencils from smearing inside a closed book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:24:53 2022 No.6108659 >>6108649 What the fuck is this nigger childs drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:28:49 2022 No.6108666 File: 116 KB, 708x469, ROOMIS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108280 >>6108018 based, doing the same after dropping it a while ago, wgmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:38:26 2022 No.6108682 File: 69 KB, 720x1280, photo_2022-06-13_21-35-55.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's been a while since I've browsed /ic/, but here's my latest one

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:40:38 2022 No.6108687

>>6108495
/beg/ has a pretty simple answer. /ic/ shitpost culture drives people into /beg/ because people can't tell you to go to /beg/ here, and it feels better to be told "not /beg/" (though it's /beg/ and /int/ now anyway I guess, and /int/ is literally the only other tier besides /beg/; pretty sure there's someone on /ic/ who would tell any given master artist throughout history they were mid int at best). Conversely, if you're good enough that /ic/ is generally not that helpful to you, but you want to help out others, /beg/ is where you can do the most good. Basically /beg/ is the only place where /ic/ functions the way it should, so naturally it receives more traffic.

/lsg/ I'm pretty sure is a combination of it being an extremely popular fetish (a much larger percentage of men than you'd expect have self-reported as various kinds of hebephile (which includes paedophilia), and that's just self-reporting; don't know the figures on women but based on the percentage of women I know who have confided that kind of thing in me I suspect it's pretty high, maybe even higher than for men; the legal and ethical outlet for those interests (in most countries, RIP canada) is hentai), 4chan historically being a very loli-friendly board (less-so in recent years, of course, but it's still pretty heavily inundated in weeb culture) and the fact that it's banned on most of the site now (and technically /ic/ as well, but /lsg/ gets the tacit approval of the mods as long as people behave there; the rules in its op are actually thread-specific rules enforced by the mods), so it serves as an alternative to /b/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:41:45 2022 No.6108691 >>6108629 they are exercises on their own to learn, for beginners at least after that they become "warm ups" >>6108632 im focusing more on the course but dont worry fren, i have being drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:51:50 2022 No.6108702 >>6108544 I just checked out that artist out of curiosity. I'm not the biggest big fan of the aesthetic personally, but the men looked unusually dapper and erotic for a dude to be drawing them. Of course he was suspected of being gay...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 00:56:59 2022 No.6108708 how to loomis? i just downloaded fun w/ a pencil and I can't seem to draw an eye or lip or nose or chin or any of that. As soon as I start getting into any detail it becomes a scribble or just random lines

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:00:30 2022 No.6108712

>>6108495
Can't talk about most, but I only use /ic/ to post on /lsg/ because I feel like is one of the few last bastions of old imageboard culture despite all the crying and shitty fake drama from normies and to try to help in what I can the few /beg/s I see some promises or know I can give a solid enough advice i think it will make a difference.

I rarely get any solid critique around here, for me /ic/ is useful because it makes me draw a lot since I see a lot of people drawing and talking about the craft keeps me pupped since always on my mind and to keep my ego down since dealing a lot with normies that swear you are incredible talented will kill your drive to improve if really believe on their bullshit. I do post on most generals, saving /asg/ because I think that general is incredible redundant and is mostly master studies and referential drawing, something I never do, but i don't do it looking for critiques, I do it to keep them with some movement, if I want a quick and solid response about something I keep to /beg/int/ that still is one of the few places on the internet were people will call out any flaws they see on my work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:04:51 2022 No.6108718 >>6108708 >As soon as I start getting into any detail it becomes a scribble or just random lines What do you mean? You lose control of your body or something? Are you an unironic helmet wearing retard?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:07:26 2022 No.6108723

>>6108708
Fun with a pencil is advertised as a complete beginner book, and it is but if you're struggling with imagining what things are supposed to look like when trying to draw you should probably try Keys to Drawing first. It will teach you observational drawing more intuitively imo and then you can move on to fun with a pencil which is great as well.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:10:17 2022 No.6108727

ok real question, or to give suggestions whatever.
Sketches are generally better looking than the lineart idk how to explain it but the multiple lines of the sketch make it look way better than the few lines of the next step.
how to avoid this basically

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:16:23 2022 No.6108734 >>6108727 Sketch in ink? Alternately, get better at inking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:17:21 2022 No.6108737 >>6108727 line weight is what I think is the issue. When we sketch we go over areas more then once making the line look darker and thicker, once the line art go over ever line is about the same.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:25:33 2022 No.6108751

>>6108734
IIRC it's the same reason proper cross hatching looks good, your brain interprets the sketch lines as more dynamic and possibly also as texture that gives form/volume to the drawing. in theory it's a straight forward issue to correct, essentially you just need to improve your inking skills and use proper line weights and maybe add shading/cross-hatching to replace the psuedo-volume your sketch lines are providing. tracing directly over your sketch in a 1-1 manner also gives the drawing a stiff feeling so try not to be too accurate but keep your line quality high (blurring your sketch and lowing opacity can help with this)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:26:36 2022 No.6108752 >>6108751 my bad, meant to reply to >>6108727

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:27:25 2022 No.6108755 File: 270 KB, 1204x712, image_2022-06-13_222701773.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] jesus christ this will be way harder than I thought

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:28:40 2022 No.6108757
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Hello BEG, keep at it!

>>6108727
Literally pic related, lady on left you can see the steps. Rough sketch has many extra lines which often show you the shape or motion or even reminds you of shadows. But once you do the clean line and nothing else all that illusion goes away. Its especially bad if your line has no thickness variation just like i set it up for this piece.

>>6108708
Either try easier book (drawing on right side of brain or keys to drawing i am currently doing btw) or accept that it takes many times before you understand the shapes and forms behind complex body parts. Also there is possibility you simply need to ZOOM IN (on the reference) and draw in thinner line.

>>6108495
Other threads are mostly just 2 same schizo posters spamming memes / AI threads / baits.

>>6108344
Screen-less xp-pen tablets costs next to nothing and are good enough for BEGs. Grab the biggest one (big drawing area) your budget will allow you.

>>6108296
Post reference and your attempt side by side. You dont actually expect anons to read your mind, do you?

>>6108232
Draw more + follow some recommended book anon

>>6108175
>>6107932
Soul

>>6108040
Look at my 1st attempt on her face. And thats after many do-overs. And lets not forget the "final" face still looks bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:33:26 2022 No.6108766 I just understood everything. I'm not supposed to use 100% density. Ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:35:30 2022 No.6108768 File: 242 KB, 1200x1200, Promo-Facebook-Facebook marketplace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's wrong with this?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:35:56 2022 No.6108770

>>6108549
>Compared to your reference, big-hair-guy's eyes seem to be in the wrong position.

Do you mean the location of the eye shape on the face or the little colored circle with the two orb inside that I can’t remember the name of (iris?) Former I did goof where they were going but the latter was intentional to see if I could make him look eslewhere and make it believable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:36:34 2022 No.6108773 Guys how do i decline or avoid BBC requests on twitter or elsewhere without looking racist?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:37:46 2022 No.6108777
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>>6107883
I need you bros
how do I use perspective to make clearer the fact that my fairy's legs are spreading ? for example the front leg is supposed to lean toward the viewer but I fucked and it just looks short
other advice welcome this unrefed pose is horrible to draw I don't even know if you understand she is facing you but her hips are rotated

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:43:33 2022 No.6108783 >>6108777 I don't even know what your are trying to say, try to look up a reference for whatever you are going

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:47:21 2022 No.6108786 >>6108783 her legs are supposed to be open with a 45° angle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:53:35 2022 No.6108791 >>6108786 A branch that thick would force her legs to open wider than 45 degrees just by sitting on it like that

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 01:56:25 2022 No.6108797
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>>6108777
You're trying to convey an action in a static image. If you want to show the legs spreading, spread them. Pose the figure with the knees apart, not touching. If you can't figure out the pose, use a doll or drawing manikin to work it out. If all else fails, use yourself as reference. Get in front of a mirror and work out the pose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:03:49 2022 No.6108815 File: 43 KB, 210x388, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108755 damn that looks good did u used a ref for this one? could u shared it pls.....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:10:17 2022 No.6108823 File: 253 KB, 1149x851, fgdfszd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108815 it's from morpho muscled anatomy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:15:38 2022 No.6108833 >>6108823 ooh nice, thanks fren

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:18:56 2022 No.6108837 File: 258 KB, 1968x664, asas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108777 Try using a virtual mannequin because I'm not sure what you mean

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:20:39 2022 No.6108840 >>6108773 >sorry I don’t do raceplay :/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:22:54 2022 No.6108841 >>6108773 Just say you want to avoid political and controversial topics because you are jewish and doesn't deal well with confrontation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:27:40 2022 No.6108847 File: 383 KB, 800x800, who-rs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:29:36 2022 No.6108850 File: 487 KB, 613x650, w-ref.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108847 Here's the ref I don't think I got the accuracy down really but I like how the end result looks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:40:26 2022 No.6108860 >>6108847 Looks great, how did you determine what colors to use?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 02:43:35 2022 No.6108865 >>6108860 I threw stupid colors at it and found fun ones using the eyedropper in the blending spots between them, just kinda correcting as I went.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:14:53 2022 No.6108900 File: 393 KB, 800x800, who-rs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108847 made a couple fixes here and there

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:29:50 2022 No.6108909
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moving on from focusing solely on shapes.
starting to use different brushes, trying to figure out edges. first time using a mixing brush for some areas and i'm not sure how convincing it is.
need to work on values as well, lots to do

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:38:09 2022 No.6108916 File: 1.26 MB, 1091x938, palunair2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] finally found time to color this in

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:41:37 2022 No.6108921
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is anything going right with this? im like 3 hours in no ref used. im having trouble deciding on the lighting. and yes im aware of symbol drawing, shit rendering, im getting to those

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:42:21 2022 No.6108922 >>6108909 Are you doing the faces misshapen and ugly on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:43:21 2022 No.6108924 >>6108921 Another victim of the hard round meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 03:46:44 2022 No.6108929 >>6108924 kek im going smooth that out. i meant in terms of uncannyness and such

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:24:49 2022 No.6108963 File: 188 KB, 1280x894, C91E9D63-FE4A-41EE-ABBF-C49A29891C5F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Before I move on with this one are there any glaring problems I think her back or ass is wrong somehow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:26:22 2022 No.6108968 File: 269 KB, 640x788, 93E1BA8F-5B66-4040-8F42-8A3B1144A0FD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108963 This was the first time I tried drawing these characters back in April 2020. It’s a shame I’ve only gotten worse since then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:39:09 2022 No.6108983 imagine if /beg/ put as much effort towards the fundies as they did towards anime porn of their waifu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:41:45 2022 No.6108988 >>6108983 what are you even referring to?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:42:40 2022 No.6108990 >>6108988 Your posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:43:03 2022 No.6108991 >>6108924 pyw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:44:02 2022 No.6108992 >>6108990 ? There's like one guy who posted futa shit and that's it. Take your meds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:44:39 2022 No.6108993 >>6108963 >>6108968 >complete regression should've listened to people who told you to study and finish your pictures, they weren't bullshitting you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:48:35 2022 No.6108997 >>6108993 Oh god it’s so true! The crabs are the wisest, most valuable contributors to this board!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 04:52:50 2022 No.6108999 >>6108997 youre totally owning the crabs by drawing worst than you did two years ago have fun with that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:00:41 2022 No.6109006 >>6108999 In two years I’ll barely be able manage chicken scratched stick figures! Then you’ll rue the day!

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:12:43 2022 No.6109010
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>>6108012
Take my advice with a grain of salt. I've done very little environment painting, so it could be a case of the blind leading the blind. I tried putting my own advice into practice by doing a paint-over and wasn't pleased with the result.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:13:40 2022 No.6109011

>>6108797
>>6108777
absolutely do NOT use a doll. that is the #1 way to make all of your drawings look lifeless and amateur. dolls were not meant to be used as references for 2d art, they were meant to be used in fashion design. using dolls makes your work look boring, flat, and anatomically incorrect. use real life references of real life people. falling into the habit of using dolls/skeleton sketches for posing is what keeps people in beg tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:14:05 2022 No.6109012 >>6108963 >>6108968 your drawings are actually alright but you’re kinda annoying desu you ALWAYS mention becoming worse, but when someone agrees, you call them crabs

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:14:23 2022 No.6109015
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>>6108012
Here is the paint-over. I feel like the sun is competing too much with the temple for attention. Would probably crop the top and leave the bottom if I did it again. That would preserve the cool reflection in the water too. Hope this was helpful.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:18:51 2022 No.6109022
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>>6108921
I'd work on structure of the face and head a bit. Looks like you already picked a light source by the highlights of the eyes. Here's how I'd do it. I kind of aged her up a bit with all the rendering, but I hope it gives you an idea of the planes. Keep going!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:19:30 2022 No.6109024 >>6109012 Because I haven’t gotten worse and you’d have to be a retard, like the crabs, to think so. But they can’t resist the bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:21:45 2022 No.6109026 >>6109015 Can you explain how you approached this a bit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:24:29 2022 No.6109032 >>6109024 you’re just as retarded for intentionally baiting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:26:00 2022 No.6109036 I know there's a lot of emphasis on using your shoulder for quick movements for larger lines, and that's easy, but what the fuck do you do with smaller finer lines?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:27:09 2022 No.6109037 >>6109032 Keep telling yourself that, crab.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:42:12 2022 No.6109056

>>6109026
It's difficult to explain a painting process, but I'll try and give an example.
The first thing that stood out to me in this piece was the tree-line. I found it very boring. So then the question I ask myself is -- why?
Well, all of the trees are the same shape and size. So I grab a brush and make big and small shapes. Big at the bottom, small at the top.
Trees tend to have gaps between the leaves toward the top, which is interesting, so I grabbed a scatter brush and cut some of the sky into it. I didn't plan that -- I tried it out and it looked better, so I left it.
I felt like it looked too green. So, I thought, I'll push some of that green toward the oranges because of the sun, as well as a bit toward blue because of the sky interacting with it. I just grab the local color (green) and edge it toward the color interacting with it. If I don't like it I push the slider a bit further or closer until it starts to look okay.
I go over the entire piece thinking about it like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 05:44:53 2022 No.6109060 File: 215 KB, 568x1023, 121.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109024

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 06:12:06 2022 No.6109093

>>6109015
I just noticed that the giant tree on left makes the piece too unbalanced -- feels too left heavy. If I moved that to the right it would balance out the piece, as well as take some focus away from the sun. Win-win. The light shining through the trees would look good too. Can't un-see.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 06:33:19 2022 No.6109110 i just want drawing to feel fun again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 06:41:28 2022 No.6109119 >>6108840 what if they say its not raceplay and its just a dark skinned man with a light skinned woman?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 07:24:11 2022 No.6109156 >>6108916 fucking awesome geat job

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 07:46:40 2022 No.6109178 >>6108916 dis is cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 07:53:16 2022 No.6109185 File: 225 KB, 888x888, barbarian.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >stop drawing for weeks >first drawing Should i rest for another month or start conquering the known world?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:09:46 2022 No.6109202 >>6108921 >no ref used don't do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:12:32 2022 No.6109206 after you do a figure drawing, how do you check it for accuracy/precision?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:18:18 2022 No.6109210 >>6108983 >tfw permabeg that draws mostly my anime waifu and do fundamental sometimes remeber permabeg bros fundies help you draw your waipu to be more fappable

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:25:50 2022 No.6109214

>>6109036
From the shoulder for big lines, from the elbow for medium, from the wrist for short lines, with the fingers for very small lines.
On digital, you can also zoom in and out to suit your preferences. Just try not to get stuck using only small or very small strokes to prevent strains or possibly injure yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:27:25 2022 No.6109215 >>6109202 I want to draw a completely fictional person when I get better. Nta btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:40:24 2022 No.6109229 >>6109015 >>6109022 Thanks for making posts like this. I'm not either anon you replied to, but I find these posts very useful regardless. Just letting you know by doing this you're helping more than just the people you're replying to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:48:55 2022 No.6109242 heckin cursed

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 08:53:17 2022 No.6109248

>>6109119
Aren't you worrying too much about this? Just say you won't draw it and it they don't like it they can draw it themselves. Everyone has preferences and it isn't their right to force their own preferences onto you. You don't want to draw it, that's that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:01:18 2022 No.6109258 >>6109119 Just ignore the requests.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:14:23 2022 No.6109269 >>6108841 Objectively correct answer. It's worked for at least a few generations of "ashkenazi" "jews."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:17:59 2022 No.6109270 >>6109010 >>6109015 >>6109093 Alright thanks for looking at my piece and giving advice I tend to forget to look at the piece as a whole

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:20:34 2022 No.6109275 File: 396 KB, 1668x2388, 8F5E4A6D-23D4-4900-AB4A-3FB690E4AC26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108598 Thanks, much appreciated. >>6108702 Doesn’t make a difference to me, I want to draw nice men and women too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:28:35 2022 No.6109283 >>6108922 was not my intention, no

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 09:52:29 2022 No.6109301 >>6109015 Very nice, but yea, this type of composition really makes the sun hard to ignore since it literally outshines everything else. Maybe a splash of harsher light on the temple could do it, just needs a bit of draw to pull attention to itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:04:22 2022 No.6109307 I've been stuck grinding basic shapes for like a year now, and I still don't have them perfectly down. Can I just move on to fucking gesture and shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:11:24 2022 No.6109324 >>6109307 You can do whatever you want. It's your time and your brain. You know it better than anyone else here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:23:51 2022 No.6109335 are the premium proko courses worth it? figure drawing specifically

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:27:44 2022 No.6109341 >>6109307 If you can't do "basic shapes" perfectly after a year of grinding I don't know how you expect to succeed in general but go for it bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:27:52 2022 No.6109343 >>6109335 Worth pirating, yeah. Go through the free stuff on YouTube to see if you'd pay for more similar stuff that's a bit more in depth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 10:34:25 2022 No.6109346 File: 73 KB, 1000x1000, gxh5uazc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108921 >>6108924 >>6109022 bigger brushes block in light/shadow

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:17:38 2022 No.6109399

>>6108770
I think the problem is that your plastering flat symbol-like yes on a round orb. In your reference, the face is a little flatter. Generally faces are more 3d but for owl house it's okay for it being a heavily stylised cartoon.

The rules are straightforward for 3d with it being just orbs as eyeballs and then drawing skin over that.
In a cartoon they may have their own rules (which I am ignorant of) that you would have to follow.

I remember seeing a Japanese tutorial on how to make faces/heads look a bit better, I lost it so I'll send my own ver. drawing in a bit,

>>6108617
still seems a bit off to me.
I think it might be the shadows in the eyeballs themselves.
The eyebrows are in a strange position, seemingly congruent to the brow rather than actually being part of it like it is irl.
The forehead has a distinguished wrinkle but your nose is simplistic which is even more jarring when compared to the eyes as well.
I think the main problem is that a lot of the face seems to be too abstracted, too symbolic compared to the eyes which are implied to be proper spheres

From a distance your face actually looks pretty good, but it doesn't seem to hold up to scrutiny upon closer inspection

Do note I am a beg myself

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:21:25 2022 No.6109402
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well it's no master piece. it I'm proud of myself for being able to out together what I learned feom drawing body parts separately and putting them together, what do you think of it anons

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:22:33 2022 No.6109404

>>6109307
It takes a lifetime to master something, anon. Do it in passes. Get a handle on one aspect of your drawings until it's no longer the worst thing about your drawings. Then iterate and improve on your next biggest weakness. Repeat. You'll come back around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:26:42 2022 No.6109405 File: 76 KB, 674x900, cover8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109399 It's my interpretation of this meme, I wasn't sure how many features I wanted to keep, so it is what it is. Thanks for the input though, I appreciate it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:35:16 2022 No.6109411 >>6109402 Good job anon :). You might be leaning too heavily into the anime style. Do note that anime and cartoons are abstractions/stylised representations of real life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:38:51 2022 No.6109413 >>6109411 Yeah, while drawing this I based design heavily on Art president sunomiya feom Nagatoro manga, even though I like anime I want to draw more stylized stuff. I am still struggling my experimenting with my style stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:41:24 2022 No.6109416 >>6109119 Then don't respond

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:42:06 2022 No.6109417
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>>6109405
I think you are simplifying what is already very very simple.
You might want to use an actual face as a reference and then bang it down into the meme rather than having it straight from the meme.
Seeing as you are referencing the basic features of a face, i guess you sort of miss the context of the meme face.
>>6109399
Pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:45:21 2022 No.6109422 >>6109413 It is definitely far too early to be focusing top heavily on finding a style, you still have to be familiar with the basics first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 12:57:53 2022 No.6109432 File: 471 KB, 1806x2616, img984.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished Gesture study What yall think?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 13:01:09 2022 No.6109435
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This was an attempt at capturing likeness of a real person but with my own pose. I can already spot a few flaws now since finishing it last night (collarbone is particularly obvious now).

Also, off topic, someone on Deviant Art made a 'request' and they clearly spam every artist asking for the same request. They have hundreds of requested drawings of their lame OC on their profile. Are these people mentally ill?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 13:09:49 2022 No.6109439 >>6109432 too static

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 13:30:24 2022 No.6109454 >>6109432 i think you should right-click > rotate counter-clockwise before uploading

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 13:31:25 2022 No.6109456 File: 89 KB, 604x605, Screenshot 2022-06-14 092804.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] actually trying to render for the sake of it, I hate polishing my shitty compositions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 13:45:30 2022 No.6109464 >>6109456 Blue background but orange shadow still getting orange bounce lights

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:06:21 2022 No.6109486 >>6109456 great render are you using any source to learn?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:06:36 2022 No.6109487 File: 1.01 MB, 1200x928, enviroment05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:14:36 2022 No.6109497 >>6109486 thanks anon, trying to use as many as I can. This I would probably attribute more towards Sinix's YT anatomy series: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLflflDShjUKH4EfZyf0vuKEuqeqvlV0Qd

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:22:14 2022 No.6109505
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>>6109497
cool, thanks for sharing the course

I think you are better than me but I would suggest you to try more saturation and some highlights

might be a stylistic choice but I think it makes it pop out more

I would make the skin look more reflective too but this is my coombrain speaking

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:41:13 2022 No.6109526 File: 816 KB, 1002x1000, Lucy_Boy_study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did another master study today

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:41:54 2022 No.6109529 File: 62 KB, 569x509, ss (2022-06-14 at 08.03.56).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >learn anatomy >learn lights and shadows >try to put my learned stuff to use >looks like shit >go back and draw chibi doodles

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:45:29 2022 No.6109541 >>6109435 Lmao why would you sign this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 14:54:20 2022 No.6109556 >>6109541 >mocking beginners on a beginner board pyw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:02:17 2022 No.6109572 >>6109556 I'm not mocking his work, Im asking why would he sign it. It's hilarious no matter your skill level

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:05:23 2022 No.6109577 >>6108232 same boat. i been drawing for a year and i feel like i got worse. I started to actually learn from the books this time maybe you should do the same

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:05:51 2022 No.6109578 >>6109572 >calls work 'shit' >"I'm not mocking it" >refuses to post his own work >actually retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:09:05 2022 No.6109584 File: 536 KB, 573x705, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] opinions, thought?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:09:09 2022 No.6109585 >>6108232 at least you're still shit. I feel like I've gotten worse over time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:13:02 2022 No.6109590 >>6109584 I think it's really great m8. Though it looks like you tried to draw her other nostril? The tip of the nose is kind of wonky.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:14:32 2022 No.6109593 >>6109578 Stop signing your shit incel, it's embarrassing. Look how red mad you are you are for people calling you out

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:15:26 2022 No.6109595

>>6109590
yeah i saw that as soon as i posted but trying not to go back to my drawings as soon as its done or i spend an hour trying to polish a turd, its just a random heavy line when i was outlining the nose its not meant to be a nostril, thank you for compliment <3

>>6109593
hes proud of his work retard, just because youre ashamed to sign your stuff dont put other down for doing so

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:18:42 2022 No.6109599 >>6109402 better than my drawings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:18:57 2022 No.6109600 >>6109577 what book are you studying? i’m reading perspective made easy and keys to drawing as well as following proko’s free course but i don’t know if that’s a good approach over just drawing whatever i want

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:19:14 2022 No.6109601 >>6109595 You can be proud of your work without signing it. It's embarrassing, stop encouraging autistic embarrassing behavior.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:29:21 2022 No.6109614

>>6109600
I was trying my luck with Loomis fun with a pencil and that book he has on heads and hands.
George Bridgman complete guide to drawing from life (i started watching this videos too https://youtu.be/HrPi92DnMis)) and Hampton, figure drawing, desing and invention and i was going to start Keys to drawing too.
I still feel completely lost in this endeavour and like you do i been mostly drawing whatever i wanted (anime girls)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:30:38 2022 No.6109616 >>6109601 care less about what others do and focus on yourself, you sound like a teenager

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:31:29 2022 No.6109618 File: 621 KB, 729x798, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108148 good reference was a fun 5 min sketch, your water colour is amazing it made it pop so much more

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:46:01 2022 No.6109636 >>6109614 i’ve heard a lot of good things about bridgman, i should look into him

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:46:44 2022 No.6109638

How do you draw stylized anime faces?
There is no documentation on that and that is the only thing I am lacking proper understanding.
>I am bad at drawing bodies
>checks hampton or loomis, can guarantee to improve
>I am bad at coloring
>checks Marco Bucci or Ctrl Paint
>I am bad at drawing stylized anime faces
>????

Seriously

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:53:55 2022 No.6109650 >>6109618 Nice work anon and thanks. I think whereas I put a little bit too much chin on him you may have understated it instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:55:50 2022 No.6109653 >>6109601 I didn't draw it for 4chan, I posted it on socials, so I signed it. Signing artwork is autistic behaviour? Wtf are you on about lad? Just pyw already so we can all have a laugh.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 15:57:51 2022 No.6109656
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>>6109638
Just look at some artists that do the faces you want and try to copy it?
I'm not exactly sure *what* you mean with stylized anime faces, anime in itself is already very stylized.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 16:19:33 2022 No.6109687 File: 1.07 MB, 756x971, hgal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109638 Anime faces are just Loomis heads simplified, that's how they teach them. So master the Loomis head and then reduce detail, adjust proportion and you have your anime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 16:21:46 2022 No.6109693 >>6109638 You sound retarded >there's no documentation Lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 16:28:54 2022 No.6109702 >>6109687 The ear is way too small on this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 16:52:27 2022 No.6109721 >>6109687 book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 16:57:34 2022 No.6109723 is crosshatching cringe or based?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 17:07:36 2022 No.6109734

>>6109721
This is not gonna help you draw anime, the book is about making your anime girls sexy. It just had that one page that showed head construction. But if you're curious it's: CHOPPIRI HNA ON'NA NO KONO KAKIKATA - HOW TO DRAW SEXY GIRLS ILLUSTRATION BOOK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 17:44:36 2022 No.6109787 File: 271 KB, 1000x1531, gohan grey forma of badly redtread ss2 on top of ultimate and picoro orange.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "this is the end."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:01:01 2022 No.6109810 File: 358 KB, 1000x1000, loomis4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6108280 Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here. Fun With a Pencil: Part 4

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:25:26 2022 No.6109839

>>6109810
Man imagine wasting your time with loomis bullshit with so many better books for free on this very board
I guess some people will just follow memes regardless of results and common sense
>I will do the loomis because... ill just will ok i must
Yep this is the mindset

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:25:44 2022 No.6109841 >>6109787 thanks doc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:32:25 2022 No.6109847 File: 2.70 MB, 2355x1941, enviroment06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking around with brushes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:38:04 2022 No.6109853 >>6109839 what's wrong with Loomis?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:48:41 2022 No.6109866 File: 67 KB, 655x350, SharedScreenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109687 What happened between 3 and 4 to make the eyelashes look so smooth????

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:49:22 2022 No.6109867 >>6109866 step 1 - draw a circle step 2 - draw the rest of the fucking eye

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:50:09 2022 No.6109868 >>6109866 Left is a sketch, right is not

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:50:39 2022 No.6109869
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I'm not starting a new thread for this.
You ever have those days where you haven't drawn for like a week, and then when you try you're just physically incapable of drawing anything?
How do I get out of it?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:53:05 2022 No.6109871
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>>6109869
by drawing

okay jokes aside if you don't wanna draw or can't draw because of some inner blockade, don't try to force it, don't think about it too much and just enjoy your day a different way
you'll get back into the grove sooner or later - this sorta stuff only sucks if you're on some kind of deadline

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:54:03 2022 No.6109875 >>6109869 >How do I get out of it? Yes I always have that reset piece of shit even If I draw a lot, it's worse when you don't actually draw, it might be a symptom of permabegdom or permaprebegdom

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:54:07 2022 No.6109876 >>6109869 get the bad drawings out, i do figure drawing when I'm stuck in a rut. They're going to look bad anyways

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 18:58:11 2022 No.6109883 >>6109853 Nothing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:01:05 2022 No.6109887 File: 182 KB, 642x998, IMG_3355.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] battle gutarr iiii

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:15:54 2022 No.6109904 >>6109839 so which books are better then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:16:58 2022 No.6109908 File: 648 KB, 1854x2360, 20220614_211523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I keep grinding portraits

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:25:28 2022 No.6109918 >>6109875 >permabegdom or permaprebegdom This isn't a real thing, is it?

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:31:31 2022 No.6109922

When I want to draw a piece, what's the best way to start?
Right now, my method is basically to just fuck around with sketches, until I eventually get something that looks presentable, and I just trace over the good parts on a new layer. I eventually end up with some ok shit, but getting started is always the hardest part

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:33:11 2022 No.6109923

>>6109869
Just like any skill, once you take some time off you're not going to be at the level you were once before. But that doesn't mean you can't get there again regardless of how long the break is.
For example, if you took a break from running when you come back you're not going to be running as far as you used to but that doesn't mean you can't get back to that point.
All you have to do is to just "do it", you have to draw just like how a runner needs to run to get better at running again and how a weightlifter needs to lift weights again to lift heavy shit again.
SO COME ON ANON, YOU'VE DONE IT ONE YOU CAN DOING IT AGAIN!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:37:15 2022 No.6109925 File: 1.92 MB, 1282x926, 22-06-14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] no idea why but proportions kicked my ass today, they both look like they have giant bobble-heads...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:42:48 2022 No.6109935 >>6109925 Just need to take a little more time blocking in the figure before focusing on details. Looks good otherwise

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:43:48 2022 No.6109937 >>6109925 i have this problem too sometimes but i don't know what causes it or how to fix it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:44:43 2022 No.6109939 >>6109925 what pencil did you use?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:44:50 2022 No.6109940 >can't draw for one day because of lack of time >feel awful bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:45:14 2022 No.6109941 I will draw today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:45:52 2022 No.6109942 >>6109925 wish I could get my faces looking like this desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:47:53 2022 No.6109944 >>6109925 One on the left looks like the "Why not both" meme girl aged up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:53:36 2022 No.6109951 >>6109847 I like it, a lot

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:54:26 2022 No.6109953

>>6108909
I like the texture and general "mood" of these a lot. the jaw area is well modelled in the first image, generally gives people a lot of trouble. a lot of proportions/placements are off though. the ears a little, her right eye in 1 is not aligned etc so be more careful about stuff like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:56:11 2022 No.6109954 >>6109925 uuooooooohhhhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 19:59:04 2022 No.6109958 >>6109307 postit you dumbbutt >>6109487 nice atmosphere >>6109514 epic

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:02:55 2022 No.6109964
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Working through drawabox in between grinding gestures. I know it's a beg trap but I'm working through RadioRunner's syllabus and it calls for Drawabox lessons 0-2 before moving on to Loomis heads.

>>6108549
>Biceps are bit too "round", looks a little unnatural. Pic related
PAINFULLY aware, unfortunately I haven't quite figured out how the fuck to do arms during gesture drawings without getting caught up in detail.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:04:24 2022 No.6109966 File: 694 KB, 1000x992, omi0px.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm going going, back back to trad trad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:04:37 2022 No.6109968 >>6109951 Thanks man, playing around with brushes seems fun ngl >>6109958 >nice atmosphere Idk I got a AI vibe from how muddy it is Was from a reference that I liked but didn't quite nail it, not even the colors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:11:06 2022 No.6109977 >>6109925 >>>/h/umblebrag

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:12:20 2022 No.6109980

>>6109935
yeah could be I was just too impatient today

>>6109939
Staedtler watercolor pencils it also says "144 10NC24" on the box, I image that indicates the specific type.
I don't really like them for actual fleshed out colored drawings maybe because I'm too dumb to use them properly, but for sketching they're great.
have a sort of creamy feel to them which i really like, hard to erase if you go to dark tho, so you have to be sure of what you put down before you do that.

>>6109942
you can do it, i believe in you.

>>6109944
^^ I also thought she looked a little like those face shrinking memes

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:16:32 2022 No.6109986
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>>6109810
Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here.

Fun With a Pencil: Part 5

>>6109839
I figure Loomis is respected by too many people to be just a meme, but I also don't believe his stuff'll magically make me an expert. It just seems like a shame to not have an informed opinion on his stuff given how often his name gets mentioned, so I'm gonna try to at least fix that much.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 20:33:20 2022 No.6110012
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>>6109853
>>6109904
Not him but ball construction is difficult and unnecessary when you can just draw in cube forms. In reality the human head isn't even shaped like a ball. Its actually a big cuboid shape. Drawing a sphere with all the axes just to construct a head is time consuming and even as a learning exercise to learn simple construction techniques is just frustrating especially for beginners.
To construct the actual head in perspective you have to disregard the ball entirely and think about the parts where the ball cuts the axes as planes, so there is zero point in drawing the ball, you can just draw a plane and add the curvature of the cranium in later (how it should actually look and not a big fat half sphere).
Loomis heads are one step up from those step by step kid's books that go 'draw a circle, draw a line here, draw another circle, then magically add a bunch of lines and now you have a dragon well done!'
Steve huston has a free youtube video on how to draw heads. I use this method all the time when life drawing. But to learn proper head construction I suggest you do a little drawabox.com to get the hang of perspective and just stacking shapes in perspective on top of each other. You can try constructing some easter island style heads as a better exercise. Then bridgeman's complete guide to drawing from life has some decent information on the distribution of the main masses and simplified forms you can use.
With any body part you construct first by drawing the distribution of the main masses as simplified shapes with clear planes, but a good sexy looking head you need to know some things about anatomy as well. This site is very bad for telling begs not to touch anatomy until they """master""" dumb shit like poomis. Just read anatomy for sculptors and copy some hogarth from his books dynamic anatomy.
All these names I name dropped are how I've learned. Really you just have to be clever and don't be afraid to invent methods and problem solve yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:00:28 2022 No.6110066 File: 101 KB, 1054x666, lux_a_flux.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't care what anybody says, the original left collarbone on lux here is broken, her arm is broken, and her shoulder should be closer to her haid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:01:52 2022 No.6110069 >>6110066 another one bites the hard round meme

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:16:02 2022 No.6110088

>>6108171
The proper way to do biceps is you have the shoulder actually reaches 1/4 down the length of the arm, and the biceps another third, then arm muscle actually starts just before the elbow.

On the flip side your Triceps go from the 1/3 starting point to the elbow. So the forearm muscle groups visually start on the bicep side more than the triceps.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:19:51 2022 No.6110095
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>>6108768
nose too low

>>6110088
But basically your arm should have a small gap where it's just bone and tricep, where the bicep has ended and where your extendor and brachior muscles havnt started yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:20:04 2022 No.6110097 >>6110066 Hard round meme victim

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:32:57 2022 No.6110113 is it worth my time to do the nma beginners course or brent evistons how to draw just to learn the still life parts? ive got everything else down already

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:35:53 2022 No.6110115 >>6110012 pyw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:51:13 2022 No.6110142 File: 1.02 MB, 989x928, IMG_20210722_192529.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6110115

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:51:21 2022 No.6110144 I hate drawing anything artificial with lots of straight lines and sharp edges

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 21:54:27 2022 No.6110151 >>6110069 >>6110097 Niggers do you really think that his problem is the fucking brush he is using?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:01:45 2022 No.6110164 File: 682 KB, 1964x2310, 20220614_211603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another one. Good night humans

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:35:26 2022 No.6110199 File: 100 KB, 589x761, Screenshot 2022-06-14 225701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :^-

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:37:09 2022 No.6110201 >>6110199 You posted this last thread. Her eyes are weird and don't seem right, unironically more loomis

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:42:09 2022 No.6110206 >>6109723 If you do it well it's based, if you don't it's cringed, simple as. I don't like it personally so I never got into it but I've seen people who do it very well. Also good if for some reason you want to make woodprints.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:44:30 2022 No.6110213

>>6109869
It's usually the other way for me. If I draw every day I eventually hit a point where it feels like I'm getting worse, not better, but I get my skill back pretty fast after a break. Thanks for reminding me I fell asleep working on a drawing, though. Time to finish it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 22:45:46 2022 No.6110217 File: 54 KB, 683x1000, Scan2022-06-15_004030.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some figure sketching practice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:20:59 2022 No.6110266 >>6110199 Mouth, nose. Eyes too low. Abs are a muscle that will have unironic light lines because it's only shadows that show their presence.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:29:33 2022 No.6110279
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>got my first real commission that wasn't for deviant art points, or a friend today
>it's for furry porn
not complaining money is money but aha...godspeed furfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:31:26 2022 No.6110283 >>6110279 whats your skill level, what are you drawing(profile, bust, full), and how much you charging.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:34:13 2022 No.6110293

>>6110283
If this was normal idk maybe 5 for a full lined/coloured/painting piece and thats it. I'm a turbobeg awful artist but he gave me 25 cad to pay for my pen.

full torso though of his oc and a character from an anime. and a cropped version of some meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:36:36 2022 No.6110301 >>6110293 nice, you drawing trad or digital also how long does it take you to compete a commission.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:39:02 2022 No.6110309 File: 55 KB, 397x478, Screenshot 2022-06-14 193647.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6110266 ya face was defiantly weird, should have flipped more. As usual. Also Im coloring this, the muscle lines are place holders for shading.

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:39:40 2022 No.6110310
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total beginner here, I have a bad habit where I'll start trying to sketch the rough outline of the body, but get impatient and just rush to the final steps. It's not that I don't want to take a long time drawing - even just this one took me about 90 minutes - but because I'm no good at drawing the outline. Also, as you can tell, I struggled with the hands, and the back of the torso is a bit of a mess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:42:05 2022 No.6110322 >>6110310 not bad. how big is the drawing it looks small

Anonymous Tue Jun 14 23:42:44 2022 No.6110323
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>>6110301
I'm doing digital, hence pay for my pen. If it's my own drawing idk 1 month to a year. but if it's for other people maybe 5 hours to a week. Really depends on how much I render, if I'm painting or not, what it is, if they want a background, if the character is easy to draw, if I like the character.

All in all, I'm really happy someone bought my art. My pen will come on the 19th and I hope to do it fast for him. Kinda is like damn though, I got 5 drawings to do for people as of right now. 2 pieces for my best friend for his birthday, another friend, his drawing, and possibly another client.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 00:22:57 2022 No.6110391 >>6110323 pyw faggot

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 00:25:15 2022 No.6110397
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>>6110199
I don't think the style is bad, per se. The only major criticisms I have is that the abrominal muscles are drawn too small. Also, the hips should be angled in that pose, but the legs seem to be at the same level.

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 00:53:16 2022 No.6110461
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>>6110391
okay im shy, i sent them these and a few others
https://prntDOTsc/L-qT--XQeSOx
https://prntDOTsc/mmXsJXQtB63y
before you ask how i got someone to give me 25, when they were willing to fork over 40, i dont know im definitely not worth that, im literally the lowest tier of begs

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 00:56:47 2022 No.6110465
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>have to create a semi-OC character for the AU
>can't for the life of me get a proper headspace concept for the thing
>some guy on tumblr makes something similar to what I figure I was picturing, and I say 'I figure' because suddenly it's all I can picture for the boy
>gotta do the same for another character and I can't picture him
>and the hairstyle of another character who in show has only been seen with a hat, and I've also drawn a blank
This is a normal /beg/ thing right? Because I can imagine the character, and what he's gonna do in the story, but I'm fucking drawing blanks on what I want to do for how his face looks, and it's unnerving why it's only the faces that have this problem. And then it goes away if someone else draws it, suddenly it's easy to imagine. Is it an autism thing? Pic related's the pic, I didn't draw this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:04:34 2022 No.6110481 >>6110461 There was a guy around here that did drawings of a similar quality and was also getting commissions. Granted he was drawing some niche fetish. Don't underestimate what coomers will pay for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:05:51 2022 No.6110487 >>6110461 Your art isn't skillful but it's cute. Why's the second one got one buttcheek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:06:28 2022 No.6110488 File: 32 KB, 526x526, IMG_20220614_200145_456~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6110397 Oh, and skirt should be tilting in the opposite direction

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:09:52 2022 No.6110492

>>6110310
Studies will actually fix both problems. When you're copying something it teaches you to pace yourself better and removes the room for error that you have when drawing even partially from imagination, so you can see exactly where and how rushing is fucking you over. That's assuming you actually "know how to see" or whatever; a lot of beginners can't actually parse what they're looking at and will symbol draw the fuck out of a person with all their features the wrong size and in the wrong place as well and not be able to tell what's different between the reference and their drawing, which is something I truly don't understand, but just from this sonic I doubt you have that issue because it looks like it could easily be like, a key frame in a sonic animation or something (granted a key frame artist would draw it in like a minute, but studies can also help you train speed).

You might also try drawing in ink since you're doing traditional. It may be painful at first but it'll train you better to just not make mistakes when you have no easy way to fix them like an eraser.

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:10:58 2022 No.6110494
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>>6110487
looking at it now yea the ass should've been moved down a bit. Leg going up was a cheek of it's own, and the bubble underneath was the other cheek. Good to know, I was looking off a specific piece of art when I drew it and I think that must've fucked me up. I didn't notice that mistake until now, arigathanks for the compliment and critique. I knew something looked off but I was never able to place it
>>6110481
I guess yea, I said I would draw anything for that money. I'm happy anyways and hope to deliver a good result, this guy really saved my ass.

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:18:24 2022 No.6110505
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Draw BEGs, draw or die!

>>6110465
Anon... creating shit out of nowhere is hard. Dont expect instant miracles. Btw lets say you go to random page off google and use the first photo you see as imagination booster for your face. It wouldnt even be cheating. *wink wink*

>>6110310
Dodson had whole two pages about this: when you are getting tired (or impatient) he suggest to shift attention to different piece of picture or go from quick sketching to details. You are already doing it

>>6110279
Good job, from now on you are PRO (furry maker)

>>6109847
Nice

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:19:12 2022 No.6110506

>>6110465
Can you picture, say, your mother's face? Some people have a condition, I think it's called prosopagnia or something, where it's like aphantasia (inability to form mental images) but ONLY for faces. But if you're seeing someone else's art and then you can picture it in your head that's probably not your issue. To me it sounds like you're just forgetting about faces when designing a character and then getting inspiration for the face later on. If you don't want to keep relying on other people's art for that inspiration, practice doodling a lot of different faces (unironically Loomis is great for getting you doing that, maybe start with Fun with a Pencil) so when it comes to ideation for a character's appearance you can hash out a few ideas and figure out what you like on your own terms.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:23:23 2022 No.6110514 File: 311 KB, 1000x1000, loomis6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109986 Gonna force myself to read Loomis cover to cover, actually do the exercises, and post them here. Fun With a Pencil: Part 6

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:26:55 2022 No.6110525
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I drew left from a pic reference and right from morpho

I thought drawing using other drawings as refs was supposed to be easier? I'm not sure I learned a lot from this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:30:14 2022 No.6110532 >>6110525 What were you trying to learn?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:35:03 2022 No.6110539 File: 171 KB, 1031x1099, 20220614_193208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The paper is no long taking to erasing well so I am giving up on this one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:38:12 2022 No.6110543 >>6110532 leg muscles what else could it be

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:52:14 2022 No.6110554 File: 3.61 MB, 4032x3024, 751E25B6-5C0D-4CD2-8D92-08A48FD51A7C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6110492 >>6110505 hey thanks guys, this is really helpful advice. >>6110322 pic related, it's pretty small

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 01:58:39 2022 No.6110559

>>6110543
Seems like you're focusing too hard on copying what's in front of you, and not enough on what the lines mean. Ify ou're learning leg muscles, get the muscle groups down, focus on construction, worry less about drawing it exactly like the picture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 02:09:29 2022 No.6110567 File: 100 KB, 500x666, Screenshot 2022-06-14 225701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6110488 >>6110397 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 02:48:08 2022 No.6110621 File: 755 KB, 1000x1054, j07wpn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 02:52:05 2022 No.6110626 File: 596 KB, 1000x840, ar1vg2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:05:41 2022 No.6110639 File: 1.02 MB, 1000x1130, srg2mz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:06:46 2022 No.6110641
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I don't think I have gotten to a point where I have an art style yet, idk I may have it it's this and I don't even know it.
but at the moment I don't like how my characters are coming up, they look too soft if that makes any sense, I want to make something look sharp but I have no direction on what to do, any help maybe

ignoring the fact that this specific character is supposed to look soft somewhat, this is the best example I have at the moment

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:16:00 2022 No.6110651 >>6110514 keep goin

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:17:14 2022 No.6110654 >>6110142 excellent

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:33:49 2022 No.6110671 >>6110309 Her lats are missing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:37:23 2022 No.6110677 >>6110671 You mean traps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:51:24 2022 No.6110692 I love drawing and I love collecting (you)s. (you)s make me feel very special and important.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:52:25 2022 No.6110694 >>6110677 yes thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 03:55:22 2022 No.6110698 >>6110692 Same. I don't even eat food anymore, I just photosynthesize (You)s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 04:27:20 2022 No.6110720 >>6109723 wut it's just a technique how can it be cringe or anything else

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 04:38:21 2022 No.6110723 >>6108773 Just send them a pic with time stamp of your NSDAP pin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 05:47:56 2022 No.6110790 What's best for learning proportions/accuracy: croquis, long studies or both?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 06:02:32 2022 No.6110802 >>6110790 If you find yourself asking a question like that the answer will pretty much always be both. Consider: "just draw lol"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 06:21:52 2022 No.6110817 >>6110802 indeed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 06:45:23 2022 No.6110837 >>6110790 Both, alternate them to complement each other. Also measure measure measure. Most ratios are pretty close to simple ratios like 1:6, 1:1, 1:2, 4:5, etc, so it's easy to remember them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 06:53:20 2022 No.6110842 File: 447 KB, 1280x1616, post.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some 10 minute drawings can i draw anime yet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:01:10 2022 No.6110853 >>6110842 Don't ask for permission, just do it. Only if it is ugly should you ask for forgiveness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:04:48 2022 No.6110855 >>6110853 i don't know how to draw anime

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:31:52 2022 No.6110878 File: 912 KB, 1368x1279, standing girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Felt a little aimless with this one. Everything from the neck up is a mess, but it's finished. IDK I just wanted to paint something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:40:02 2022 No.6110884 >>6110855 time for studies

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:43:05 2022 No.6110886 >>6110884 how do i start drawing anime

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 07:56:39 2022 No.6110894 >>6110886 I just told you, studies. There's even a thread for it, anime studies general. You find anime art you like and you reverse engineer how it was made and make it yourself so you learn, then you apply it to your own pieces.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 08:06:36 2022 No.6110903 File: 299 KB, 1000x603, clothed_dynamic_figures_10-mins.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did some dynamic figure sketches on a 10 min interval, are there any issues that I can improve upon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 08:12:56 2022 No.6110910 >>6110903 learn to measure

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 08:59:24 2022 No.6110941
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>>6110910
I overlaid my sketches with the ref images I used and, although some of the limb positions are off it looks like my proportions are relatively close to what they should be
maybe because some of them are strange angles/uncommon body positions it looks worse than it actually is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 08:59:53 2022 No.6110943 >>6109964 Dw, I have that same problem, my arms end up swollen like balloons. Still not sure what i can do about it besides properly studying anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 09:19:01 2022 No.6110954 >>6110941 do some sight size it not really a way you want to draw forever, but doing it for a while, not even well will help you a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 09:21:49 2022 No.6110958 >>6110878 hey, it's good to finish things

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 11:12:37 2022 No.6111048 File: 293 KB, 1950x1961, img985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gesture Study What you think>?

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 12:06:47 2022 No.6111089
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The sale has begun
I need to upgrade to EX as I'm an animation student but am considering also getting a subscription for my tablet so I can use CSP when away from my PC, but don't know if the subscription is really worth it. I've already got ibis paint on my tablet and it's files are compatible when imported to CSP but it just feels much more inferior to the trial of CSP I've tried, and I can't do Krita as I've got android
>tl;dr
CSP tablet anons, was the subscription worth paying for over using the alternatives?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 13:13:09 2022 No.6111128 >>6111048 Doesnt look like gesture, looks like construction. Feel the form!

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 13:28:48 2022 No.6111152

Ok I've been confused by this for a while.
anyone else get extremely tierd when drawing.
I struggle to work on complex pieces because of it. Like I can feel fine but if I sit down and draw for 30min I just feel drained. is this Normal or is there something worng with me?

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 14:44:44 2022 No.6111277
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I dont get this part of the 'right of the brain' book. I did the thing and that was that, no problem, but apparently i was meant to be confused and solve some sort of 'problem', and the next bits assume that happened and try to tell me shit about it. Did i just not do it right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 15:43:54 2022 No.6111386 File: 880 KB, 1304x1308, standing girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] redid the head and face, how does it look now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 15:50:20 2022 No.6111400 what if studies are a meme and the path out of /beg/dom is just fucking drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 15:56:58 2022 No.6111409 >>6111386 it looks so uncanny. the head is way to big, and the anime face looks so out of place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 16:49:08 2022 No.6111475 NEW THREAD >>6111474 >>6111474 >>6111474

Anonymous Wed Jun 15 18:49:49 2022 No.6111679

I get why people get called tracers when they might be sincerely drawing from next to it.
It's got nothing to do with the act of tracing, but the lack of understanding the form... So while proportions are correct at a glance, they butchered the contour lines and form. Now it's just twisted flesh inside the silhouette of that person they are trying to draw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 19:08:00 2022 No.6111707 >>6111400 is studying not drawing helped me quite a bit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 19:08:25 2022 No.6111708 >>6111386 Too many colors for the skin, limit yourself to 3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 19:09:09 2022 No.6111711 >>6111277 I had the same experience, also with recognising the upside down einstein. Either we're not /beg/ enough for the book or the shit betty edwards asserts is just less universal than she thinks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 15 19:12:59 2022 No.6111719 >>6111708 colors are fine but look how much darker the values get on the turn of the forms in ref also that anime face is.. really rough lol

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