beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread || Ladybug edition

[Anonymous No.6101370]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER OR /INT/ERMEDIATE IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
- Keys to drawing
- Perspective made easy
- Figure - Design and invention
- Pen and Ink

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uxMdokX68

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>>6097770

[Anonymous No.6101380]

I've been trying to fix this for so long. Something feels wrong but I'm not sure what. Help?

[Anonymous No.6101384]

Does /beg/ ever go outside to draw? I an having a pleasant evening here

[Anonymous No.6101390]

>>6101370
Am I ever going to make it lads?
Also why are men so much easier to draw generally?

[Anonymous No.6101398]

>>6101384
Maybe once I'm good enough
Have fun anon you're gmi

[Anonymous No.6101400]

>>6101384
No, but I go to museums

[Anonymous No.6101431]

I have a question for all the anons who feel like their art is at an almost fluid and professional level. Like you can draw almost anything you want and feel confident that it's decent enough to show people or decent enough for you to feel like you accomplished something by making it. Not through days of reworking it, but with reasonable time investment and well-placed lines.

For those anons, at what point did you feel things click? If you ever even 'felt' it. Was there a point during your gesture drawing, anatomy study, just drawing things over and over, etc where it just clicked and the things you were studying just seemed to fall into place? Either that or at which point do you remember going from "this is really tough" to "wow, I just banged out that figure drawing like it was nothing?" If you can't remember a specific moment, maybe you remember what you were doing and how far you went to get there? Like you read Vilppu's course, read up on some anatomy, did some gesture for a couple of months, etc before you started feeling more confident?

Sorry, I know this is a cursed and confusing bundle of questions. But if you can decipher it, I'd love to hear if you remember when in your art journey it all clicked for you or started making enough sense to feel more confident in your work.

[Anonymous No.6101434]

>>6101380
I think it's the neck and unnatural head position, with such strong profile look the neck an trapezius muscles should be more visible and extended. Here's a quick liquify work, still i think the head would look better looking slightly to the side instead of straight profile

[Anonymous No.6101453]

Any feedback on this?

[Anonymous No.6101462]

>>6101390
>Also why are men so much easier to draw generally?
I think it's because men tend to be lumpier, angular, and uglier which is easier to draw. Women have subtler features.

[Anonymous No.6101464]

>>6101434
Thank you anon! Friend gave me advice on the hands. Going to stop for today, but will incorporate your advice into the piece!

[Anonymous No.6101545]

[Anonymous No.6101557]

Quick and dirty copy of
>>>/vt/25396962
and a quick attempt of changing things up.
I'm somewhat satisfied with hands, used to be much worse.

[Anonymous No.6101565]

try to draw from imagination, howd i do?

[Anonymous No.6101569]

>>6101431
the thread for begs probably isnt the greatest place to ask this question, but i can say that i do kind of feel some level up moments, when im drawing faces they will look the same for weeks and then suddenly i will draw one face that looks better and then thats the new base lines until the next one

[Anonymous No.6101585]

[Anonymous No.6101588]

Any thoughts or critique on this?

[Anonymous No.6101595]

>>6101453
limbs are a bit long but overall good job.

[Anonymous No.6101599]

>>6101565
ear is small, nose not lined up, and eyes might be too close to each other. Overall not bad keep it up

[Anonymous No.6101604]

>>6101588
Not bad, it might be because of the horns but the head looks like it could be bigger on the top. Also the ears looks big compare to the rest of the face.

[Anonymous No.6101611]

Any idea how I can get the forearm to pop out more? It looks kinda flat.
I seriously need to learn hands.

[Anonymous No.6101613]

Feel like the perspective is off

[Anonymous No.6101614]

>>6101595
Yeah I have a tendency to inadvertently make the limbs too long. Gotta work on that. Thanks for pointing it out anon.

[Anonymous No.6101616]

Any idea how to get the forearm to pop out more? It looks kinda flat.

[Anonymous No.6101620]

>>6101588
Another victim of small head syndrome

[Anonymous No.6101621]

>>6101604
thanks a lot! will fix that

[Anonymous No.6101625]

>>6101613
Looks like you just slapped the girl on top. Kinda like a visual novel

[Anonymous No.6101627]

>>6101613
is this a straight on view? we can see some of the bottom of the building roofs, so we should also be looking at the person from a lower angle if that make sense.

[Anonymous No.6101630]

>>6101616
what do you mean pop out more? The closer an object the bigger it should be to the viewer. with that in mind you can place the arm higher and draw it bigger or you can change the pose and have him lean in with the arm.

[Anonymous No.6101634]

[Anonymous No.6101636]

>>6101627
>we can see some of the bottom of the building roofs

well of course you can theyre above the horizon line

[Anonymous No.6101638]

Just wanted to test out white highlights

[Anonymous No.6101640]

what should I draw to get better at drawing? I love to draw portraits and really just want to git gud at those. I've been lazily drawing off and on for several years now.

[Anonymous No.6101644]

Tfw havent drawn in 3 days

[Anonymous No.6101646]

>>6101630
I originally drew it bigger but it just ended up looking like a ham so I changed it. I'll try placing it higher as well and see how it goes, thanks

[Anonymous No.6101647]

reposting because /thread

is there any point in posting "creative" sketches here or is that kinda stuff not good for feedback

[Anonymous No.6101648]

>>6101640
Try making a nicely rendered picture instead of a scribbly mess.

[Anonymous No.6101649]

>>6101644
>tfw havent drawn anything in the last 10 minutes
NGMI

[Anonymous No.6101650]

>>6101647
If you could draw faces well this would look good. Work on your faces.

[Anonymous No.6101651]

>>6101647
not sure how this is creative is just drawings of people in pink clothes

[Anonymous No.6101653]

>>6101647
This looks AI generated

[Anonymous No.6101659]

>>6101585
I like where you're going with this, but if I had to say one thing I think her left breast is either too long or too flat

there are definitely women that exist with breasts like that but might be something to think about, also her left thumb is facing away from where I think you intended it to be

the shading on the face is going nicely though, I wish you luck anon

[Anonymous No.6101663]

>>6101650
thanks anon, I'll keep at it
>>6101651
I wasn't talking about this, I have a sketchbook full of weird stuff :)
>>6101653
just the colors are (csp has autocolor)

[Anonymous No.6101665]

>>6101663
>I have a sketchbook full of weird stuff

post em anon, floating anime heads get boring

[Anonymous No.6101669]

>>6101644
Remember anon even just one doodle per day, regardless of how shitty it is, still counts as drawing and helps gather up that momentum again.
Or at the very least doing something and not improving is better than doing nothing and not improving and losing important muscle memory that comes from drawing.
So have faith you'll make it, you just have to get that ball rolling again.

[Anonymous No.6101676]

>>6101659
hands are hard sowy unu

[Anonymous No.6101695]

>>6101676
I like the nose because us not anime nose #12 yet still has some anime-ish style

[Anonymous No.6101701]

>>6101370
So anyone got some hot rendering tips for this one? Kinda feel dumb reposting since it was at the end of last bread but also the op pic.

[Anonymous No.6101707]

>>6101616
what are you trying to do with the forearm? Show off what's on it, or something? Can you give us some context/your intention for the forearm?

[Anonymous No.6101710]

>>6101707
He's probably going for some gay Jojo inspired wacky posture

[Anonymous No.6101711]

>>6101707
Sure, this is the reference pic. It's supposed to be a sword drawing stance.

[Anonymous No.6101714]

>stop grinding boxes, spheres, cylinders and gestures, almost stop drawing because it's so tedious
>start copying art I enjoy instead now
Holy fuck, drawing is so much more enjoyable now

[Anonymous No.6101715]

>>6101714
just find a balance between the 2

[Anonymous No.6101718]

Anyone here used Brent Eviston's book the art and science of drawing?

[Anonymous No.6101719]

>>6101714
pyw

[Anonymous No.6101725]

>>6101719
no, it's still shit

[Anonymous No.6101736]

Drawing on my tablet isn't fun, but I want to be able to do digital art... are there any famous twitter/doujin artists who do line art in traditional and render digitally?

[Anonymous No.6101740]

>>6101711
I think it's just bigger and higher in the ref?

[Anonymous No.6101741]

>>6101725
c'mon fag post your shit so we can make fun of you
here, i'll post mine so u can make fun of it too

[Anonymous No.6101743]

>>6101613
usually the eyes line up with the horizon.

[Anonymous No.6101744]

>>6101711
the silhouette sucks, but you can make it work if you thicken the lines of the forearm or add proper values to make it stand out.

[Anonymous No.6101747]

>>6101725
post it and set yourself free, everyone ITT struggles with something

[Anonymous No.6101755]

>>6101740
>>6101744
Notes taken, I'll experiment more tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6101763]

[Anonymous No.6101788]

>>6101588
I'd take a look at the face and head structure and work on the values. Here's what I'd do, hope it helps.

[Anonymous No.6101798]

>>6101370
dynamic sketching week 2 day 2

[Anonymous No.6101843]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_-DiAzYBc

Are there any more resources for the stuff shown in this video? Steps 1 and 2 specifically.

Still struggling with completely accurate perspective

[Anonymous No.6101854]

How do I draw hands this drawing is kicking my ass

[Anonymous No.6101856]

lol

[Anonymous No.6101858]

>>6101370
does anyone have the manga materials mega?
Sketch for some Attention

[Anonymous No.6101874]

drawing isn't fun

[Anonymous No.6101875]

>>6101874
pyw

[Anonymous No.6101877]

>>6101875

[Anonymous No.6101879]

>>6101874
Drawing is fun when You are learning and not forcing yourself

[Anonymous No.6101882]

>>6101877
faggot, this looks good wtf
why do u feel that way?
>>6101879
based

[Anonymous No.6101884]

>>6101882
>this looks good wtf
that's just a shitty copy of a simple anime figure I was studying
its just so frustrating not being able to make the lines i want, fighting the software, spending multiple hours on something that should take less than one

[Anonymous No.6101888]

>>6101884
unfortunately there isnt much i can tell you except that these things come with time and practice
u need to make a habit and draw everyday

[Anonymous No.6101905]

>>6101884
you seem to need to practice some line Confidence, you should not Guess what you want to draw, you must know. so try to use less lines while Sketching, that's what they mean when anons say "Chicken scratch" and for the love of God stop using a Low Opacity brush, again you must stop guessing and making decisions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQ9-JZHPuQ&t=546s
this Ethan becker video sums it up

[Anonymous No.6101906]

>>6101877
Nice work my friend. Drawing takes me a lot longer then it should as well
>>6101763
Cool, I like the end pose. Maybe you should give his legs done muscle as well?
>>6101741
SOVL
>>6101676
Coming along nicely. I think her arm is a little small given the angle. Maybe try making her hand and forearm a bit bigger?

[Anonymous No.6101908]

>>6101906
Sorry about the image size, I always remember after I post

[Anonymous No.6101910]

>>6101616
based daisuke enjoyer

[Anonymous No.6101911]

>>6101905
>you seem to need to practice some line Confidence, you should not Guess what you want to draw, you must know. so try to use less lines while Sketching
i thought the point of the sketch phase of digital drawing was just to get the shapes and proportions down, and then you go over it with precise lines. Starting with confident lines is impossible, especially on digital.

[Anonymous No.6101913]

>>6101910
what type of coloring is that? watercolor?
how to make somehing like that on digital?

[Anonymous No.6101915]

Doing some vilppu cubes

[Anonymous No.6101916]

>>6101384
I drew pic related and a few other things outside in 2020. Spent a lot of time hanging out in parks. It was nice because, you know, barely anyone else was outside.

>>6101390
>Also why are men so much easier to draw generally?
You a straight man, lesbian or bi? Because I think that's at the root of it. You're not looking for men to look right, you're looking for them to look strong, someone you'd want on your side even if they have a face like a foot. Like something you're doing here is outlining the entire nose on head-on shots, which looks fucked up on second from the right on the bottom row, but looks fine on top left because you can tell he's supposed to be a dude so your brain doesn't even care that he has a squidward nose, you just see he looks strong. Alternately I think it's telling that straight women usually draw men who are supposed to be attractive as looking very "feminine."

[Anonymous No.6101920]

>>6101913
beats me. I asked the stupid questions thread a while ago and an anon said it looked like copic markers so yeah, I think you can get something close on digital with watercolor brushes

[Anonymous No.6101924]

>>6101920
huh i see
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6101929]

>>6101911
>Starting with confident lines is impossible
No, Its necessary
because, then Again I must Guess what every Line means
>>6101877
look at that, with those messy chicken scratches where do you think the lines should go? in the inner edge? the middle? or the outer edge? or it should be thick to cover everything?
that's why line confidence is important

[Anonymous No.6101932]

>>6101929
>where do you think the lines should go? in the inner edge? the middle? or the outer edge?
the point is I know it goes somewhere in that general area, rather than having no clue where to put it at all.

[Anonymous No.6101936]

>>6101929
How do know that's chicken scratching and not dozens of "confident" lines that ended up being wrong and restated?

[Anonymous No.6101945]

>>6101929
for the record I always try to not abuse of Ctrl+z for the sketch and erased some of the guidelines
>>6101932
>the point is I know it goes somewhere in that general area
then you should reduce the Threshold to not Guess
>>6101936
here's some trad drawing

[Anonymous No.6101946]

>>6101945
this looks like shit though and the line placement is terrible. stop watching westoid tutorials

[Anonymous No.6101949]

What do you think of my art

[Anonymous No.6101950]

>>6101949

[Anonymous No.6101956]

>>6101949
>>6101950
very french/euro like, I like it personally. Also the second drawing need works on the hand it is too small

[Anonymous No.6101958]

>>6101647
This looks like an AI generation

[Anonymous No.6101959]

>>6101946
less messy than our center of discussion tho
>stop watching westoid tutorials
bruh
also PYW or ultragay
>>6101949
nice

[Anonymous No.6101960]

>>6101949
>>6101950
Feels like 2016 tumblr

[Anonymous No.6101961]

>>6101959
>less messy than our center of discussion tho
that pic is basically construction, and yours is the finished lines. telling people not to construct or have an underdrawing before putting down the finished line is retarded

[Anonymous No.6101962]

>>6101950
Ah yes, erotic early 2000's flash game art, sweet.

[Anonymous No.6101963]

render study

[Anonymous No.6101964]

is this idea any good guys? he's a bad guy

[Anonymous No.6101965]

>>6101964

[Anonymous No.6101966]

>>6101963
Another victim of the hard round meme

[Anonymous No.6101972]

>>6101961
>and yours is the finished lines
My brethen in the light of God does this >>6101945 >>6101905 fucking look like a Finished drawing?

[Anonymous No.6101973]

>>6101843
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.6101974]

>>6101966
>hard round
>meme
filtered

[Anonymous No.6101975]

>>6101963
What books did you study?

[Anonymous No.6101976]

>>6101973
Scott Robertson anon.
This being said. You eventually will need to just feel it

[Anonymous No.6101978]

>>6101972
it looks like you have no clue what you're doing

[Anonymous No.6101979]

>>6101974
You fell for it didnt you lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.6101982]

>>6101979
filtered

[Anonymous No.6101986]

>>6101974
Pyw. If you do I'll post mine with the hard round

[Anonymous No.6101988]

>>6101982
Lmao, it's ok anon you'll realize how retarded you are eventually.
It's hilarious how you guys purposefully sabotage yourselves just to follow some meme

[Anonymous No.6101994]

>>6101390
Men are easier to draw for you because you're a man. People tend to draw things that resemble them.

[Anonymous No.6102003]

>>6101966
whats the alternative then?

[Anonymous No.6102007]

>>6101974
>spending 30 minutes doing something you could have done in 30 seconds with soft round and it would look closer to what you intended
Stop fetishising methodology.

[Anonymous No.6102018]

>>6101390
my tip is study other artists and how they portray the face, womens faces have more abstraction and implied detail compared to a man which will have more defined details and features

good example of this is the way you drew the lips, even if a girl has big puffy lips you dont generally fully draw them but leave a portion of them implied, same with any crease or fold

[Anonymous No.6102020]

>>6102007
pyw filtered /beg/let

[Anonymous No.6102021]

drawing makes me want to kill myself fuck i hate it so much

[Anonymous No.6102022]

>>6101966
>>6101979
>>6101986
>>6101988
>>6102007
PYW

[Anonymous No.6102023]

>>6102020
Sure, bottom is my study. Censored because it's loli.

[Anonymous No.6102026]

>>6102022
>>6098693

[Anonymous No.6102030]

Anyone know how to tackle rendering like this? Just painting?

[Anonymous No.6102034]

>>6102023
based and lolipilled

[Anonymous No.6102039]

The brushes i used weren't hard, pic related just the eraser to clean up the edges. you guys made alot of assumptions about how i worked.

[Anonymous No.6102040]

>>6102030
study leyendecker

[Anonymous No.6102041]

>>6102039
nah, they just tried way too hard to crab someone
also great job fren

[Anonymous No.6102042]

>>6102039
good work pinkanon, 1.5 hours is something i cannot do since my attention span is so bad

[Anonymous No.6102052]

>>6102040
You’re a fucking legend, thanks anon. Found out the artist also uploads process vids so I’ll check those out as well. Man, Leyendecker doing this style almost 150 years ago, wild.

[Anonymous No.6102053]

>>6102039
unrelated but nice workspace anon!

[Anonymous No.6102054]

>>6102039
Agree, the act of sculpting in the shape with colors is quite trance like, like retopology.

[Anonymous No.6102055]

>>6102039
Not him but those are practically hard. The edges are barely soft. Not that it really matters for the most part for what you painted since it's a high-gloss surface.

[Anonymous No.6102070]

>>6102041
yeah the fact that they posted in two threads showed that they really needed to get that off their chest lmao, that's /ic/ for you what can you do
>also great job fren
thanks
>>6102042
work at your pace, beside breaks helps with spotting the errors so use it to your advantage
>>6102053
thanks
>>6102054
yeah i go into zen mode pretty hard, gotta be careful sometimes you over work and end up with a steamed turd lol
>>6102055
I adjusted the settings on the first 2 since I was working with porcelain and not skin, pic related is mostly the leftmost brush >>6102039 and quite soft as you can see.

[Anonymous No.6102078]

>>6102070
Another victim of the hard round meme

[Anonymous No.6102079]

>>6101973
dynamic sketching course

[Anonymous No.6102082]

>>6102070
Soft/hard isn't about general opacity, it's about the edge. Top three are hard, bottom three are soft. The "hard round meme" is using a hard round with low opacity or pressure-sensitive opacity to make gradients you could make in a fraction of the time with a soft round with varying hardness, opacity and size, and changing the edges with erasers. Since it's very difficult to get "right" it leaves behind a lot of apparent brush strokes, making it look more like a traditional oil painting (though there are still some telltale signs that it's digital in most cases, like the opacity ripples around her collar in your pic), which is the legitimate reason to do it (and exactly what happened in this pic, I'm assuming intentionally).

[Anonymous No.6102092]

>>6101965
>>6101964
I like him. I want five concept drawings by the end of the week.

[Anonymous No.6102097]

>>6102082
Ah i see. well i still trying to make heads or tails of rendering as i haven't been practicing consistently for very long. the eraser was deliberate since too soft edges is a frequent clique I keep getting. ill keep working on it.

[Anonymous No.6102104]

>>6101976
I'm struggling so hard with Scott Robertson. I just don't get the "top view", or what the 60 degree CoV even means or how to create it.
You have this 90 degree angle at the station point, and then you have this arbitrary distance from the circle which represents the cone of vision and the center vanishing point, and he makes no mention of this distance.
I get that the edge of the CoV is at 30, but it doesn't seem to mean anything if you can put the station point at any distance from the CVP and the CoV circle

[Anonymous No.6102114]

[Anonymous No.6102115]

>>6102026
shoulder blades won't touch like that. Good grind tho

[Anonymous No.6102120]

>>6102114
Another victim of the hard round meme

[Anonymous No.6102133]

Please someone direct me to a good hair tutorial

[Anonymous No.6102135]

>>6101906
I like that I'm not the only gtsfag here

[Anonymous No.6102142]

>>6102135
Based, pyw!

[Anonymous No.6102145]

not much but at least i finished

[Anonymous No.6102146]

>>6102145
Why does she have a midget arm

[Anonymous No.6102148]

>>6102146
she built differently

[Anonymous No.6102149]

>>6102146
perspective, some anon said i should have made it bigger, may do it later tho
but given i already colored maybe i will be more careful next drawing

[Anonymous No.6102152]

>>6102149
What kind of perspective would even cause that to happen. It just reads as a midget arm

[Anonymous No.6102154]

>>6102152
with a finger pinting at you, i think maybe you would see the arm bigger towards the hand, but i did it wrong this time

[Anonymous No.6102155]

>>6102154
they aren't even pointing at the camera though. They're pointing somewhere off canvas. Her arm would not nearly be as foreshortened at that angle.

[Anonymous No.6102157]

>>6102152
like this (i used transform tool, thats why it looks weird)
but still

[Anonymous No.6102166]

>>6102157

[Anonymous No.6102171]

What do you think bros? Am I GMI?

[Anonymous No.6102172]

>>6102157
Yeah that's what I meant >>6101906
Not perfect obviously, but that alone is a huge improvement

[Anonymous No.6102178]

>>6102171
Looks like you started with the legs and then just improvised

[Anonymous No.6102182]

Scott Robertson and station point and cov make zero fucking sense to me. It's insane.

[Anonymous No.6102187]

I don't fucking get color theory. I tried to make the shadow of a skin tone. But it doesn't look like a healthy shadow tone. This is the steps I took to get the skin's shadow color. First I made the color darker, then I hue shifted into a cooler color by moving to the left in the circle.

tl;dr how do you get the shadow color from the base color in the HSV box?

[Anonymous No.6102190]

what went wrong?

[Anonymous No.6102192]

>>6102187
a little more saturation?

[Anonymous No.6102195]

>>6102192
The problem I'm having is with the shadow color, it doesn't look healthy on a female. That shadow makes them look sickly.

[Anonymous No.6102198]

>>6102171
Your angles and proportions are all over the place, but if it was intentional then sure.
>>6102187
skin is matte and translucent, so shadows will be more diffuse and have more of a red tone from the underlying flesh. Also, watch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V_E1ARR_AAg

[Anonymous No.6102200]

>>6102195
Tint the shadow warmer, not cooler.

[Anonymous No.6102205]

>>6102195
Then pick a more red/pink color? durr

[Anonymous No.6102206]

>>6102190
chickenscratch boooooooy
among other things

[Anonymous No.6102224]

I don't know why I did this. The lineart is not even supposed to show in the end. Guess I'll keep drawing planes to make painting easier.

[Anonymous No.6102233]

New version.

[Anonymous No.6102238]

>>6102198
Wet skin attempt

[Anonymous No.6102264]

>>6102190
damn near everything that possibly could, you'll have to be more specific

[Anonymous No.6102316]

>>6101788
Thanks for the input anon! I'll make some adjustments

[Anonymous No.6102332]

[Anonymous No.6102344]

Some were made with ref, and some without.

[Anonymous No.6102351]

been months without touching digital, sketching other artists figures to get back into the digital groove

[Anonymous No.6102354]

thought i'd finally study an image I got off of beg ages ago.
Still just focusing on shapes for now

[Anonymous No.6102390]

>>6102152
It reads that way because he did the perspective wrong. He focused on foreshortening but missed, as it were, the actual perspective, ie things that are closer appearing larger. I'd think that was kind of obvious.

>>6102171
>>6102233
What happened to her left shoulder (our right)?

[Anonymous No.6102395]

>>6101462
>>6101916
I'm straight, makes sense I'm not as bothered by the details
>>6101994

Thanks for the feedback it was helpfull
>>6102018

[Anonymous No.6102399]

>>6101613
idk man looks fine to me, looks good.

[Anonymous No.6102400]

>>6102023
you unironically need hard round

[Anonymous No.6102409]

>>6102400
I used both soft and hard round, pseud. You unironically need to stop fetishizing methodology.

[Anonymous No.6102410]

>>6102354
Very nice. That third value should cover a bigger chunk of the left side of the face, I think.

[Anonymous No.6102427]

>>6101910
Hell yeah, it’s probably not great beginner material since his poses are very jojo-esque but I love me some guilty gear

[Anonymous No.6102453]

>>6102409
Whatever you use, your edge control is poor and using a hard brush and softening the transitions manually just happens to be the best way to improve edge control. At the end of the day you can get any result with any method, but why would you shun efficient practice like >>6101963 pinkanon's here

[Anonymous No.6102469]

>>6102453
>efficient practice
>takes ten times as long for a worse-looking result
laughing my ass off

[Anonymous No.6102471]

>>6102469
You do realize practice isn't about the end result and it looking worse is a skill issue? You can just skip actually internalizing how to create perfect edges and stay mediocre like that study, but then why do a study at all.

[Anonymous No.6102504]

Hello BEG, try tracking the time you spend in the drawing app. I got 3 hours out of 4. Not good not bad. Still there is clearly procrastination going on

>>6102039
>pink brush :D
:D
Very nice rendering anon i am jealous

>>6101854
Draw 9999 hands

>>6101613
Godlike oh my god how did you make thqt building texture aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.6102519]

>>6101743
Ok so i just gotta bring the girl down a bit

[Anonymous No.6102535]

Trying to draw with a single line and no construction to improve line confidence. I think I have to do 200 more of these before it starts looking ok

[Anonymous No.6102538]

>>6102535
Pic

[Anonymous No.6102539]

>>6102504
Stop using GIMP, for your own good.
Even if you insist on free shit, FOSS or being a loonixfag, at least get Krita instead.

[Anonymous No.6102541]

>>6102039
It's probably worst workspace i ever seen...

[Anonymous No.6102542]

how to end this luciferian curse

[Anonymous No.6102544]

>>6102519
He means the viewer's eyes but it's also not true either way.

[Anonymous No.6102561]

>>6102539
So far nobody was able to articulate whats wrong with GIMP. The more i dwell in art circles the more i am astonished with how many people just repeat what they heard about X without actually understanding why is that.

I might swap to krita later but at the time being i simply dont see a single reason to. My pics will look like ass regardless what app i use.

The keyboard shortcuts are customizeable so it doesnt matter to what i get used to. The UI is as comfy as you customize it in both apps. Selecting brush with all the 15 options is single mouse click in both apps.

Btw you talk about krita as being some leftover option. Imho its 2nd best drawing app on the market after corel painter IMHO. So pray tell, what is wrong with gimp?

[Anonymous No.6102565]

>>6102504
Anyone have a shitty little timer thing I can use and press to start every time I start doing work? What kind of timer or time tracker do you all use?

[Anonymous No.6102571]

I was told that you can't build a following in 2022 without making fanart so I made some fanart. Was it good advice or shit?

[Anonymous No.6102574]

>>6101644
Just fucking draw everyday, what's your fucking problem?
I feel bad drawing less than 4h/day.

[Anonymous No.6102584]

>>6102571
best thing you can do for yourself is fix those faces

[Anonymous No.6102588]

>>6102565
I found this and its super simple and it just works. Also its written in autohotkey script so you can check the code yourself and compile it into exe.

https://neilblr.com/post/58757345346

And when you alt tab from the app or go afk the timer stops the clock.

[Anonymous No.6102590]

>>6101884
Do some line control exercises every day as a warmup.
Half year max and you'll forget about no fun while drawing problem.

[Anonymous No.6102591]

>>6102584
plz elaborate

[Anonymous No.6102592]

>>6102561
>how many people just repeat what they heard about X without actually understanding why is that
yeah that's everywhere, just know what to listen to. why do you need to prove to anyone that your opinion on something is valid?
ps didn't read the thread just saw the image and replied
gimp/krita, who cares. if you pyw and it's really impressive, people will ask you what you use and all of a sudden there are 3+ threads asking if gimp/krita is the "one" or the "best". the next day another person posts amazing work done in photoshop and everyone is losing their shit. there are no grey zones. it's black or white, best or worst, no inbetweens, no sitting on the fence, you have to have completely one-sided opinions on everything

[Anonymous No.6102594]

>>6102571
>Trying my best to draw realistic people, realistic shading, colours, detailed faces etc
>Little to no likes
>Made a lazy fanart of an obscure (kind of) girl
>Got a shitton of likes
Seems like it. Even if your works are not good people will follow you if you draw fanart.

[Anonymous No.6102596]

>>6102591
you should look into Loomis' books, your heads are always flat and unpleasantly tapered with often poorly proportioned crammed faces. It'll help you with other problems too, but for you the heads are the most glaring.

[Anonymous No.6102598]

>>6102561
Chaotic good
I've tried gimp, everything felt difficult on purpose and took me 3x as long as in krita.
That's all

[Anonymous No.6102599]

>>6102591
>>6102596
Unless I am confusing you with another anon who has the same recurring problem, regardless the advice still stands

[Anonymous No.6102600]

>>6102344
May I request some critiques about this one?

[Anonymous No.6102609]

>>6102600
>>6102344
proportion is the main problem I see, heads too small, arms too thin or long, ect. It good to see you messing around with different angles, helps with learning. Overall not bad just keep on working on them.

[Anonymous No.6102614]

>>6102588
Cool I'll check it out thanks

[Anonymous No.6102623]

>>6102599
Hm, I already use Loomis for heads, but maybe it's something I need to revisit. I guess I'm having a hard time seeing the major flaws in the faces, and maybe that's my lack of skill clouding my judgement.

[Anonymous No.6102635]

>>6102469
>for a worse-looking result
his tea cup absolutely mogs your belly though...his shows actual skill and painting, yours looks like you followed some step by step layer guide from tumblr

[Anonymous No.6102637]

>>6102154
>with a finger pinting at you
but shes not...its a solid 45 degrees from the camera

[Anonymous No.6102643]

>>6102039
course?

[Anonymous No.6102646]

Aldoori started.

[Anonymous No.6102648]

Some people said this was to dark so i lightened it up a bit. I have no idea what I'm doing. I think I should just start over.

[Anonymous No.6102651]

>>6102539
Why always Krita, and not Firealpaca, not AzPainter (in Windows it's hard round only, but on Linux it's a SAI clone)?

[Anonymous No.6102660]

>>6102609
Like I read from that one anatomy book, proportions are basically a bitch. I'm still far away from good props.

Thanks for the advices, I'll remember that

[Anonymous No.6102698]

>>6102561
>incredibly laggy, even on high-end computers
>terrible ui/ux (you can learn it and bend it to your will, of course, but a lot of things have non-standard and misleading names, workflow is fucked and require extensive use of custom macros to do anything efficiently)
>lack of post-processing features, bad brush engine, limited existing brush options; it has the most important things (hard and soft round) but if you want anything different you're kinda SOL
>limited blending modes (it has a lot but most are programming experiments useful only for making deep-fried memes or universal defaults that are not particularly useful for art but are easy to program), and therefore bad for rendering; pretty much the only important one it has (that works correctly) is multiply, which is impossible to fuck up because it's a pixel shader that uses the same simple formula on every mainstream software I know of
Probably most importantly, Krita is its equal or better in every single regard, and both are free. When you compare Krita to other software, there are things it does better and things it does worse (but mostly better, if you're only comparing it to other free software), but GIMP, while not the bottom of the barrel (that's MS Paint, obviously), is pretty bad as photoshop clones go.

Used to be chaotic good (but with three, so I guess verging on chaotic evil?) but now that I travel a lot I'm lawful neutral, and the second monitor is my drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.6102704]

It's so funny to draw still lifes, even if your construction sucks. So relaxing. I hope I will get better with time, my perspetive sucks.

[Anonymous No.6102713]

>>6102646
what?

[Anonymous No.6102727]

>>6102648
Another victim of the hard round meme

[Anonymous No.6102733]

>>6102713
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6102737]

>>6102704
Drawing stopped being fun when I took it too seriously. Now I'm just being a slave of a pencil.

[Anonymous No.6102742]

>>6102187
>>6102192
Value before color

[Anonymous No.6102744]

Don't know if I should ask this here or /sqtddetddt/, but how important is
your hardware's color space?

[Anonymous No.6102750]

>>6102744
If you're the Dohna Dohna artist or this guy
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/65308/illustrations
very important

[Anonymous No.6102758]

>>6102704
are you doing the Brent Eviston course?

[Anonymous No.6102769]

Why is drawing vertical lines so damn hard? Also am I supposed to do these accuracy exercises with or without stablization?

[Anonymous No.6102770]

>>6102758
No, just book of academic drawing.

[Anonymous No.6102771]

>>6102769
Just rotate the canvas

[Anonymous No.6102775]

>>6102771
that's so time consuming though if you have to do it all the time when doing a real drawing. When I see pros draw they never rotate the canvas so I figured I should learn to draw in any angle.

[Anonymous No.6102801]

>>6102769
what're you talking about? they look great lol

it could be you're relying on wrist movement too much, try locking the wrist and moving your forearm along instead

[Anonymous No.6102803]

>>6102769
end the end, nobody will care if you can do this or not. The viewer will still enjoy a final finished image.

[Anonymous No.6102805]

>>6102775
drawing is very time consuming, more than what is fair imo

[Anonymous No.6102833]

>>6102803
The artist will care if they have to erase and redraw a line 30 times instead of 5 to get it looking just right.
Proper mechanics can be the difference between drawing being a painful, repetitive, grueling process and a joy. It also is much more motivating when your sketches look better than when they look like a wobbly mess every time.

[Anonymous No.6102844]

>>6102775
Are you a pro yet?
Just rotate the canvas for actual drawings. You'll develop isotropic control naturally as a part of the process, but at your level, it's WAY more important to keep drawing enjoyable and avoid burnout than it is to grind out every little mechanical technique up-front.

Still do the accuracy exercises, and focus on mechanics while doing them (and keep stabilization off for them; they're exercises, after all). But when you're drawing, you should be focusing more on just doing what gets results. Use stabilization if you need it, rotate the canvas, etc. Use the tools at your disposal, keep it fun, enjoy yourself, and make something that looks as good as you can make it. Give yourself variety, give yourself drills, give yourself fun, and mix it up. Get your mechanics developed, but don't burn yourself out on them.

[Anonymous No.6102848]

>>6102775
Are you drawing digital or with pen and paper?
Because rotating the canvas digitally literally takes a second.
>pros don't do that
I see 'pros' rotating the canvas all the time digitally, again it literally takes a second

[Anonymous No.6102851]

>>6102833
in what scenario will you need a perfect line? Drawing a strait line will get you to draw a better strait line. Just keep drawing. these straight line practice methods should be done on the go on a sketchpad away from home.

[Anonymous No.6102862]

Crits?

[Anonymous No.6102870]

>>6102862
the paw looks like a dick, like when you hold yer dick for a piss

[Anonymous No.6102873]

>>6102862
yeah i got a few

[Anonymous No.6102887]

>>6101714
This is the hardest lesson I have had to learn
Enjoyment must come before all else or you will be miserable and never get anything done
I may have wasted over a decade making basically no progress because of this

[Anonymous No.6102912]

>>6102851
You don't need a straight line for most circumstances, but that's not the point of stroke control, which is being able to throw down exactly what strokes you intended to make. How could you possibly expect to make a good piece of art if you can't even draw a stroke the size and shape that you want it?

> these straight line practice methods should be done on the go on a sketchpad away from home
They're best done as a warm-up before actually doing some deliberate drawing. On a sketchpad away from home, I'd skip the warm-ups and just do sketches. Really, why would you run line drills while on the go? Might as well just enjoy yourself while you're out.

[Anonymous No.6102914]

>>6102862
Looks flat, and the muzzle changes direction, giving the head the appearance of a leftward bend. Did you capture your construction?

[Anonymous No.6102918]

>>6101714
>>6102887
Do both and achieve true gains. Grind technique, and then immediately apply that technique to something enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.6102953]

>>6102914
Not a very helpful advice.
How could I make it look less flat?

[Anonymous No.6102958]

>>6102953
Construction and perspective.

[Anonymous No.6102966]

>>6102953
Just throw it in the garbage and draw it properly next time. You can't fix it without basically redrawing everything

[Anonymous No.6102965]

>>6102958
lol I see you are not fit to give any feedback.

[Anonymous No.6102976]

>start sketch exercises (dynamic sketching 1)
>just draw straight lines
>something seems wrong
>find out I have an essential tremor
Well that dream ended in 2 seconds.

[Anonymous No.6102979]

>>6102976
Don't worry anon, lots of great draftsmen have shaky hands.

[Anonymous No.6102982]

>>6102966
(You)

[Anonymous No.6102988]

>>6102982
He's right

[Anonymous No.6103024]

>>6102145
no symetry on pupils

exaggerated facial anatomy via artstyle doesn't function when doing proper anatomy

Her left eye has no eyewell. Her cheek and brow bones are fused together

Nose is too small

[Anonymous No.6103026]

>>6102646
Taking break from studying. Draw for myself.
Critique welcome.

[Anonymous No.6103027]

>>6102958
construction is a meme you begtard

[Anonymous No.6103028]

>>6103024
> t. permabeg

[Anonymous No.6103035]

>>6103028
>But my favorite social media personalities have shit anatomy even though the only thing they draw is porn all day!!
>I-It's called artstyle!!

If you want to be a filtered top 20% shitter then these things don't matter.

[Anonymous No.6103045]

>>6103035
> t. permabeg
You don't even draw

[Anonymous No.6103051]

>>6103026
Good linework

She needs to have traps for a head that size

If you are going to do manga you'd need to upgrade your linework, but if you are painting that's good enough for construction

[Anonymous No.6103060]

>>6103051
It's a male lol.

[Anonymous No.6103062]

>>6103045
No i'm a shit artist just like you
>>6102114

I love critique, i'll post something that isn't lazy this evening for you to crit.

[Anonymous No.6103064]

>>6103060
then he definitely needs traps

[Anonymous No.6103073]

>>6102727
Basically yes. I did decrease the opacity on it in places but no special brushes.

[Anonymous No.6103080]

any tips for drawing better hands? i get the theory and i use construction but they still come out wrong

[Anonymous No.6103084]

>>6103073
That's why it looks like shit, stop falling for memes

[Anonymous No.6103117]

trying to work on both anatomy and foreshortening

[Anonymous No.6103123]

>>6102727

[Anonymous No.6103164]

>>6102561
I use GIMP for everything, it isn't what people make it out to be
I still haven't changed programs because of how familiar I am with it, it's just infinitely easier and faster for me to do shit with it than having to get used to another app, but so far I haven't found it lacking for the things I like to do
It's all about what you like best and what works for you

[Anonymous No.6103194]

>>6102544
Tgen how do i correct it

[Anonymous No.6103239]

>>6103194
Your biggest actual problem is composition rather than perspective. You have everything along the bottom edge of the canvas. I think it's funny that you thought the solution was to move the girl down so her chin would basically be touching the bottom. Also the entire edge of the church being lost behind her head looks weird- Obviously the viewer knows the church ends there but it looks flatter and lacks appeal because we can't see the end of the building.

[Anonymous No.6103255]

>>6102504
> Godlike oh my god how did you make thqt building texture aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>find a photo
>open csp
>press extract line
>???
>You are an artist.

[Anonymous No.6103341]

some master studies, trying to work on my block in

[Anonymous No.6103343]

>>6103341
Work on your perspective

[Anonymous No.6103345]

>>6103341
Nice

>>6103343
You are a joke.

[Anonymous No.6103349]

>>6103345
>>6103341
Samefag

[Anonymous No.6103350]

>>6103341
And your shapes

[Anonymous No.6103353]

>>6103343
> Buzzword
You are so smart anon, you must be a really good artist

[Anonymous No.6103356]

>>6103341
Post ref image. Can't critique a master study if you don't post what you were trying to emulate

[Anonymous No.6103359]

>>6103356
my bad that was dumb

[Anonymous No.6103360]

>>6103349
?

[Anonymous No.6103362]

Quickly, draw a human figure in ink without construction or sketching. One attempt only and you have to post it, heres mine. This will showyour skill level. You can only laugh at my attempt if you post your own

[Anonymous No.6103363]

>>6102030
Looks inspired by Leyendecker who was a draftsman. Study construction/planes and Leyendecker

[Anonymous No.6103365]

>>6103362
You paid special attention to his genitals. Interesting.

[Anonymous No.6103366]

>>6103362
Also, no references and dont even think of opening Loomis

[Anonymous No.6103376]

>>6103362
>skill level is based on your capacity of drawing arbitrary bullshit from imagination
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.6103383]

>>6103376
You seem upset

[Anonymous No.6103387]

>>6103376
this desu

[Anonymous No.6103390]

[Anonymous No.6103391]

>>6103376
>arbitrary bullshit

a human figure...the subject of 99% of art, is arbitrary bulllshit, /beg/ ladies and gentlemen

[Anonymous No.6103395]

>>6103391
>.the subject of 99% of art
Objectively incorrect
>le beg ladies and redditors !
Go back

[Anonymous No.6103397]

>>6103391
>in ink without construction or sketching. One attempt only and you have to post it
>Also, no references and dont even think of opening Loomis
completely arbitrary bullshit

[Anonymous No.6103401]

>>6103395
>>6103397
Op of that post here and I agree with you taht its arbitrary, but why dont you want to have some fun? Dont try so hard anons

[Anonymous No.6103405]

>>6103401
Nah, I'll pass, let the redditor 'test his level' alone

[Anonymous No.6103409]

>>6103397
its just a litrle fun beg game why you having a fucking meltdown lol

[Anonymous No.6103413]

>>6103401
nah, im good

>>6103409
>muh meltdown
faggot

[Anonymous No.6103420]

>>6103362
Sure why not

[Anonymous No.6103422]

>>6103420
Well done anon, with environment and everything

[Anonymous No.6103425]

>>6103359
Your construction/perspective and value are the most noticeably off. Use levels to bring your shadows value closer to your midtones, maybe bring mids back, that should get your values somewhat correct although it takes the process of understand the values away. The The head is more top down 3/4 but you painted the eye like you're facing it dead on. The nose bridge comes in more and the jaw also rests lower in pespective. It looks like unconciously lifted the face to a perspective that you're comfortable with (I'm guilty of this too) focus on the construction and trace the image if you have to so you can recognize how the planes and forms sit in space.

[Anonymous No.6103439]

>>6103425
yeah this is all gold thank you

>>6103413
jesus the teenage angst, imgine living life just being negative and spreading hate, kinda weird but you do you

[Anonymous No.6103447]

It took me like two days to finalize the lineart. I wish I was good enough that I could just shit out illustrations within the hour. There's always those people on twitter that see like a new pokemon trailer and they're already producing full illustration fanart. I hope this gets faster with experience

[Anonymous No.6103449]

did a clothing study, never really done one before so I figured I should start. I think one of my biggest shortcomings is not really knowing which elements/details to include and which to leave out. I suppose that's why I need to do more studies of other artists but out of curiosity does anyone have advice for that? I also notice that sometimes I get impatient and draw what I think a fold/crease/shadow looks like vs what it actually looks like, so I need to be more aware of that

[Anonymous No.6103452]

>>6103449
>I suppose that's why I need to do more studies of other artists
exactly.

[Anonymous No.6103459]

I am back again, any new glaring mistakes or issues before I begin transferring over to the hopefully final draft?

[Anonymous No.6103466]

im having trouble with the face, something about it is uncanny and I cant seem to fix it (ignore buildings on right)

[Anonymous No.6103480]

>>6103466
what is the intended expression? One of perplexion? Worry?

[Anonymous No.6103485]

>>6103480
neutral/bored

[Anonymous No.6103489]

>>6103459
So much time spent on perspective and the stools in the background just dgaf and picasso out like tool album fanart. Otherwise looks ok

[Anonymous No.6103518]

>>6103466
It looks like it's right angle/perspective wise, it's just an ugly face

[Anonymous No.6103538]

>>6103239
So you want me to draw the girl farther away from the camera, showing her whole body?
Also you haven't answered me, how do i make the perspective better with the pic that I uploaded. Are her eyes supposed to be the same level as the sea "top", the horizon? Even tho her chin would be touching the bottom

[Anonymous No.6103548]

>>6103123
So you're saying my values are off. Correct?

[Anonymous No.6103551]

>>6103518
what do I do concerning said ugly face ?

[Anonymous No.6103557]

>>6103489
>Last thread
>"Anon, you really need to read this perspective book really bad and watch these videos, also the hand and paw furthest from the table are fucked

>This thread
>Lol you spent too much time on perspective, just go Picasso mode

I am getting payed 500$ for this drawing

[Anonymous No.6103565]

>>6103557
My post wasnt coherent sorry. I meant the stools in the background are not in perspective, otherwie it looks fine

[Anonymous No.6103566]

>>6103466
>>6103485
the proportions of the eyes seem off, I think they need to be either less wide, brought closer together, or both. You're inconsistent with your perspective on the forms of the face. The eyes look like they're being viewed straight on, the nose looks like it's being viewed from underneath, and the mouth lacks volume so it's kind of doing this weird in between limbo. I would settle on making everything look like it's being viewed straight, not only because it's easier but it puts emphasis on the viewer. If you want a bored/neutral expression, that'll come across in half closed eyelids and a relaxed brow. Right now her iris is small and her eyes seem wide open, so she looks really intense

[Anonymous No.6103571]

>>6103565
Ohhhh.
The one thing that I didn't check the perspective on

[Anonymous No.6103572]

>>6103551
The eyes, nose and jaw seem out of proportion.

[Anonymous No.6103577]

>>6103566
also, she's facing the ground so keep in mind how gravity acts on the hair. It's a fun viewpoint so have fun with it, hell if there's something you're not confident with, use dangling hair to block that feature

[Anonymous No.6103582]

Practicing some hands.

>>6103117
Nice top down, bottom up a bit wonky but that’s tougher.

>>6103341
Clen base

[Anonymous No.6103585]

>>6103582
Whoops

[Anonymous No.6103603]

I've been practicing ellipses for awhile now, but my arm still seems uncomfortable with them.

[Anonymous No.6103613]

>>6103585
the only thing I think that stands out to me is that the mass on the palm that's connected to the thumb needs to be larger, like twice as big as what it is now. From the base of the joint to the tip of the thumb, I think that length needs to be longer as well. Moving forward, I would focus on the proportions of the thumb

[Anonymous No.6103621]

>>6103585
The starting point of the large fingers is just before the full length of thumb.The start of the pinky is where the thumbs finder starts. Thumb is three joints starting at the base of the hand.

[Anonymous No.6103637]

>>6103538
>Also you haven't answered me, how do i make the perspective better with the pic that I uploaded.
You're talking to two different people. I said the perspective wasn't really what was wrong with it. ie
>Your biggest actual problem is composition rather than perspective.
in the post you JUST quoted.
> Are her eyes supposed to be the same level as the sea "top", the horizon?
No. The guy who told you that was talking about the VIEWER'S eyes. He meant the horizon should be the middle of the image. I said that isn't really true, though. People can look up or down, and tend to look down when looking at near subjects. Google "person standing on beach" and look at all the different ways the horizon can relate to both the frame and the subject; there is no hard rule for where the horizon line is.
>So you want me to draw the girl farther away from the camera, showing her whole body?
Also no. You don't have to show her whole body, but the way it is it looks like she's peeking up over the bottom of the frame. After you're done googling people standing on the beach, google image composition, art thumbnailing and art tangents.

Pic is not the only way to fix this and deliberately not perfect or the way I would do it because I would like to encourage you to find your own solutions to help you learn and develop an eye for this kind of thing, but it's an example of a way to have a similar composition without your tangent, value and placement issues being as bad. Top is the composition you have, simplified to hopefully help you see the issues that are actually making it look weird (though you could also literally look at the thumbnail on 4chan) while bottom is a revised version.

[Anonymous No.6103638]

>>6103613
>>6103621
Yer right, thanks Bob. Looking at my own hand, thumbs are indeed bigger than some of these sketches would suggest.

[Anonymous No.6103676]

Had two really bad flops in a row. Not sure what exactly looks so fucked up on this one to me.

[Anonymous No.6103678]

>>6103676
Reference

[Anonymous No.6103681]

>>6103678
Drawing 2

[Anonymous No.6103682]

>>6103676
Seems like symbol drawing. You could do loomis in the op, or look up facial anatomy.

[Anonymous No.6103686]

>>6103681
Reference

[Anonymous No.6103688]

>>6103682
Tried a bit of fwap but not much.

[Anonymous No.6103694]

>>6103676
>>6103681
Steve Huston Head construction class. It should be in the video lesson thread. or just pay 30$ for NMA subscription

[Anonymous No.6103700]

Little hand study, having a real hard time with thumbs

[Anonymous No.6103728]

>>6103700
The rate of descent on the fingers changes based on perspective, but these things are always true

1. Tip of thumb is ends just after the larger fingers start
2. The last joint of the thumb is at the exact same length (from start of hand) as the start of the pinky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3NQWPYYFX4

[Anonymous No.6103739]

>>6103728
Ohh I had no idea about the second one, thanks

[Anonymous No.6103756]

>>6103480
>>6103518
>>6103566
>>6103572
>>6103577
is this any better ?

[Anonymous No.6103787]

>>6103676
>>6103681
not trying to be harsh but have you even attempted to learn any fundamentals? drawing is a process of improving two basic aspects: your physical skill, and your ability to understand. currently, your skill level AND perception levels are low. this is why you're unable to draw well and the reason you don't know why what you're doing isn't working. studying fundamentals not only trains your physical skills but improves you ability to understand what exactly you're doing wrong so you can focus on those problems in specific, meaningful ways

[Anonymous No.6103790]

>>6103676
>>6103787
>pic related

[Anonymous No.6103792]

>>6103756
Yes

[Anonymous No.6103794]

>>6103756
Still some issues with the face but it's a great effort regardless.

[Anonymous No.6103804]

I’m watching the Bridgman Bootcamp working on the assignments but stuck in shape analysis. I don’t understand what’s going on here nor do I understand why the upper arm was left out of whatever this is

[Anonymous No.6103805]

>>6103637
Thanks! That actually helped a lot. You're a king

[Anonymous No.6103806]

>>6103804
Same here. He drew a triangle outside the actual figure? It looks like Vandruff was drawing random triangles that specific triangle threw me off and it seems like nothing connects with each other and had nothing to do with the figure.

[Anonymous No.6103809]

>>6103756
Thin out the pinky a touch where it meets the palm but great fix on the face

[Anonymous No.6103827]

ive decided im doing fundis and 1 finished thing per day

Gonna take a break now and draw again in a bit

[Anonymous No.6103844]

damn, new thread when?

[Anonymous No.6103872]

>>6103844
Here's a pre-emptive (you), you little slut.

[Anonymous No.6103878]

>>6103872
thank u
but where nu thread???

[Anonymous No.6103907]

warm up

[Anonymous No.6103950]

Hello BEG, keep drawing!

[Anonymous No.6103954]

feedback?

[Anonymous No.6103963]

>>6103954
Eyes, mouth, nose, fingers

[Anonymous No.6104002]

>>6101370
dynamic sketching week 2 day 3

[Anonymous No.6104026]

May I ask where I went wrong with this one? Haven't improved in years, trying to get better -again-. Where you see white lines through it is where I noticed proportions were too short and free transformed it to fix the lengths.

[Anonymous No.6104050]

[Anonymous No.6104055]

Currently doing the steve hutson head drawing course. What sticks out the most as something I'm doing wrong? I know overall I'm pretty bad, but just saying what you thinks the biggest problem in how I draw people would be great.

[Anonymous No.6104065]

>>6104055
It's really hard for you to get good facial proportions drawing on a sheet/low resolution. For us digital we have zoom and 800 DPI.

[Anonymous No.6104071]

>>6104065
im planning on going digital and getting the artist 12 which has an 11.6 inch screen, is a screen like that to small would you say, or does screen size not really matter?

[Anonymous No.6104075]

>>6104071
Artist 12 is good. Obviously the wacom (or just first world in general) monitor pads are going to be a lot higher quality if you can afford to shovel out the money for them.

[Anonymous No.6104083]

Been working on this piece for awhile, figure it's more or less done. Any feedback would be appreciated; the biggest flaw I can see is that I can never seem to draw hair well.

[Anonymous No.6104084]

How come some people have spherical looking delts and others have a more clearly triangular shape?

[Anonymous No.6104092]

>>6104075
thanks anon, cant really afford Wacom, but ill probably buy one of the more expensive
artist" tablets, appreciate the advice

[Anonymous No.6104093]

>>6104050

Thank you very much.

The second pair of eyebrows, the thinner ones were supposed to be the eyelids like how a lot of Korean manga do. Is there a way to make that better so it looks less like eyebrows?

[Anonymous No.6104115]

>>6104093
Depends on if you intend to specialize in painting or manga. If manga, you could crosshatch shading on the eyelids or top of cheeks depending on light source. Painting you would just shade over the eyelids.

[Anonymous No.6104255]

>>6104254
>>6104254
>>6104254

[Anonymous No.6104429]

>>6103954
Going for the No Straight Roads style?