/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6092937]

If dalle 2 can do this, what will dalle 3 do?

[Anonymous No.6092963]

>>6092937
your mom lmao

[Anonymous No.6092967]

>>6092937
Looks like someone ate a bowl of fruity pebbles and puked them all over a zombie woman in a bathtub. Hopefully Dalle 3 can make something that doesn't look like shit.

[Anonymous No.6092974]

Okay, this does look good, but what will this replace? fine-art is completely about traditional painting and the status/reputation of the artist. People buy a Picasso because picasso did it, not because it looks good.

I don't see ai ever replacing concept artists, animators, comic artists, etc. There's just not enough fine-tuning for that. AI is definitely going to take over the coom market though.

[Anonymous No.6092976]

>>6092974
Y-YEA B-BUT IMAGINE WHAT IT COULD DO IN THE
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YOU'RE DONE FAGGOT STOP DRAWING RIGHT NOW IT'S POINTLESS JUST GIVE UP

[Anonymous No.6092979]

>>6092976
This will become a tool for artists and nothing more. They'll take the shit the AI spews out and build on top of it. Also that right shoulder anatomy is bothering the fuck out of me. If AI can't even into anatomy how should we expect it to wipe its own ass?

[Anonymous No.6092982]

>6092976
there's your (you), faggot. Now get back to your cubicle and fix those bugs

[Anonymous No.6092984]

>>6092976
Pretty much, yeah.
We had a good run, boys.

[Anonymous No.6092985]

>>6092984
No, AI will be our bitch.

[Anonymous No.6092992]

>>6092985
I disagree. After a decade + years of adapting to everything industry threw at me, this genuinely feels like the end.

[Anonymous No.6092993]

>>6092984
Stop drawing porn. Thy soul can still be saved. Repent of thy sins, and theee shall be born again, redeemed white as snow

[Anonymous No.6092999]

>>6092993
Lol I never drawn porn in my life.

[Anonymous No.6093001]

>>6092992
You're only scared because you adapt to the industry. Make the industry your bitch.

[Anonymous No.6093005]

>>6092992
idk anon, will sex bots replace human prostitutes? Maybe the old hags will have to quit, but not the beautiful ones. There’s just something about humanity that makes us spiritually and metaphysically important. It’s like a lazy boy vs a real masseuse, one who’s attractive and smells good, or the difference between adoption and having your own kid.

[Anonymous No.6093012]

>>6093005
At the end of the day majority of people dont care if its a sex bot or human prostitute. They just want to nut at affordable price.

[Anonymous No.6093021]

>>6093012
I guess prostitution isn’t the right analogy. It’s more like sex bot or mistress. For my money, I want a real girl to love me, not furniture

[Anonymous No.6093029]

>>6093012
By that, I really mean that art is essentially the expression of man. It’s not just about getting people off visually. There ought to be real meaning being your work, a story grounded in experience. I suppose this is why I think a lot of artists might be taken out by ai, because just having technical skill isn’t enough. Writers, designers, composers won’t have any competition from ai for a long time though

[Anonymous No.6093045]

2022 and AI still can't do hands, need train AI Loomis in the datasets

[Anonymous No.6093053]

Ten years ago everything was about how 3D was going to replace 2D and how it was pointless to learn traditional skills because you would be able to produce anatomically perfect space elves in perspective with little effort. There are many people who fell for that bait and never learned to draw. They never produced anything meaningful or soul-satisfying, only generic forgettable shit indistinguishable from all the other 3D pictures on artstation. I think AI is going to be the next filter.

[Anonymous No.6093071]

>>6093053
this, we can even go back to photography if we really want drive the point home but it's pointless since these threads are mostly (you) farms made by some talentless STEMcel

[Anonymous No.6093074]

>>6093053
Difference being is that you actually had to learn 3D to implement it in your 2D.
This generates dozen of art pieces in less than a second. To be honest, its not perfect now, but in 2-3 years it will be.
Not only that, but you will be able to modify even the smallest of details in your pic in less than a minute.

[Anonymous No.6093139]

>all artists in here in full cope mode

lmao, just give up already. human art is on it's way out.

[Anonymous No.6093141]

>>6093139
Nah, hows about you fuck off demoralizationfag. I'm about as scared of AI as I am of the brown stain on your momma's panties last night.

[Anonymous No.6093148]

>>6093139
or is it you permabeg can't cope with your eternal begdom that you have to shit and cry about AI to bring other down with you. Fuck off you failed cunt.

[Anonymous No.6093155]

>>6093148
Lol what makes you think we aren't one of those who '' made it'' in the business? Seems to me you are the one who can't cope.

[Anonymous No.6093157]

>>6093053
3D HAS replaced 2D.
Are you blind to which movies are successful these days?

[Anonymous No.6093164]

>>6093157
>Are you blind to which movies are successful these days?

[Anonymous No.6093166]

How long until AI can draw Aryan families?

[Anonymous No.6093168]

>>6093074
>in 2-3 years it will be.
Korean startups working on AI are making claims for 2030. I ain't saying it won't happen but by the time it happens, my current job will be automated, and a lot of menial jobs, so why should I care when it will happen in the middle of an unemployement crisis anyway. Embrace the future and learn to use new tech.

[Anonymous No.6093175]

>>6093157
>3D HAS replaced 2D.
in america*
Even then only in the Cinema. When it comes to TV animation it's a mixed bag. In theory shows like tangled and big hero six only had to import the 3d assets if you believe the efficiency of 3d memes and then just speedly produce a 3d tv series but the opposite happened, they got 2d shows. Yeah I know we will never see Disney make a 2d film ever again but animation doesn't stop with The big players in American cinema. I

[Anonymous No.6093180]

>>6093164
2020, doesn't really count because of the pandemic shit. That film didn't even make it into the top 50 highest grossing animated films of all time.
Here's a list.

[Anonymous No.6093185]

>>6093168
What's there to learn? You literally type a sentence and that's it...
There is nothing to adapt to because a literal retard will be able to generate a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.6093188]

Google translate can`t replace translators.
Image recognition do not work properly.
Voice recognition do not work properly.
Bucket tool do work only with very clean lines.
3d didn`t kill 2d.
Photobash didn`t kill hand drawing.
CG could not kill traditional mediums.
Props in The Thing still look better than 99,9% of modern cg.
"Selfdriving cars" is a scam, 0 taxi drives have lost there jobs.
AI filters in photoshop are shit, the only work dicent with perfect stock pictures.
AI algorythm on youtube flags chess chanels as racist.
Bitcoin will never kill banks or fiat.
NFTs will never replace whatever they wonted to replace with...

BUT i`m 100% sure this AI for stock photo collages will work this time!
This time the tech jews are telling the truth, stop to produce art goyim, stop to learning fundis, start to panic, start feeling frustration, get depressed, start taking xanax, cut of your dick, vote for rebulicucks/democucks!

[Anonymous No.6093203]

>>6093188
How much time do you need to photobash and image? How much time do you need to model something in 3D?
Can you beat an AI record of 1,5 seconds?

[Anonymous No.6093204]

>>6093155
Oh show me how "made it" you are anon. It doen't stop making you look like a miserable cunt whose hobby is doomposting 24/7.

[Anonymous No.6093205]

>>6093180
Why the fuck is lion king shitty remake first place

[Anonymous No.6093207]

>>6093074
>it will be perfect in 2-3 years

[Anonymous No.6093209]

>>6093185
>masterpiece
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.6093212]

>>6093203
>Can you beat an AI record of 1,5 seconds?
Can you make someone pay for this useless piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.6093214]

>>6093203
No but it looks a lot better.

[Anonymous No.6093215]

>>6093185
>a literal retard will be able to generate a masterpiece.
And that's a good thing.

I'm tired of artists gatekeeping art.

[Anonymous No.6093219]

>>6093215
ah yes those heckin gatekeepers sacrificing their entire lives to their craft, how entitled : ))))

[Anonymous No.6093220]

>>6093214
Yes, right now. Cya in 3-5 years max and then I will ask you which looks better..

[Anonymous No.6093223]

The techcucks are literally giving artists yet another tool to help us at the end of the day. It's an infinite ideation tool you can then paint over and improve in your style.

[Anonymous No.6093230]

>>6093220
>Cya in 3-5 years
You are a low iq nigger, tech dos not improve linear. The difficulty is growing exponential.
Is like with Alexa. The first version was okey, so niggers like you taught back than, alright, in 2-3 years its perfect. 3 years have passed, but Alexa is just 15% better. In 5 years it will be maybe 10% better.
I saw this japanese android girls 15 years ago in tv. They sad, in 5 years they replace all the health care stuff.
Guess what, it is still shit.

[Anonymous No.6093235]

>>6092937
So far the only jobs AI has replaced are dumb online shills like yourself

[Anonymous No.6093236]

>>6093207
>>6093209
>>6093219
>>6093230
AI is going to replace you and you’re going to be out of work and poor. That’s what you art faggots get for not drawing my requests.

[Anonymous No.6093238]

>>6093235
These AI shitheads are so many in number I'm starting to think they're being paid to post this shit. It's probably just paranoid artists, but damn it's hard to say that conclusively.

[Anonymous No.6093239]

>>6093230
you shouldnt take that retard seriously hes probably too young and technically illiterate
https://youtu.be/xS8xX3usi4c?t=156

[Anonymous No.6093240]

>>6093236
Then don't ask for chester the cheetah eating shit out of pacman's ass and then getting anal vore'd by princess peach with really hairy legs and stinky armpits next time.

[Anonymous No.6093242]

>>6093230
>Motherfucker is comparing japanese android girls with AI picture generation.
>Calls someone low IQ nigger

Meanwhile Thor::Love and Thunder is already using AI generated images and the voice of Darth Vader in Obi-Wan Kenobi is an AI...

[Anonymous No.6093272]

>>6093242
There nothing special about photo bashing software. It is true for every technology, the difficulty will never grow linear.
It is a very common fallacy, it`s contra intuitive for people to understand.
Will Alexa be perfect in 2-3 years, as well? Or is just speaking so much harder then art?
>Love and Thunder is already using AI generated images
Show it.

[Anonymous No.6093274]

Take YouTube (Google) auto-translate for instance. Even after this many years it still can't tell wtf Japanese people are saying.

[Anonymous No.6093300]

>>6093029
>writers and composers
A.I. generated music is on the same level as DALLE and GPT-4 is coming for writers.

Decades from now human art of any kind will just be a silly novelty.

[Anonymous No.6093304]

>>6093300
Decades from now is a long time. A lot can happen in that time period.

[Anonymous No.6093334]

>>6093300
>A.I. generated music is on the same level as DALLE
What level is it, perma-pre-beg?

[Anonymous No.6093347]

Need some concepts for your game? No problems!

[Anonymous No.6093349]

>>6093236
all you have to do convince a single person is pyw, it's literally that simple

[Anonymous No.6093355]

>>6093053
Meaning and sould doesn't feed you.

[Anonymous No.6093362]

Wow, insane.

[Anonymous No.6093363]

>>6093355
It feeds your soul.

[Anonymous No.6093365]

are you guys really scared of this

[Anonymous No.6093368]

Dall-e is a NGMI.

[Anonymous No.6093378]

>>6093185
>AI
>masterpiece

Yes, of course.

[Anonymous No.6093464]

Reminder that dalle2 can do photos on any subject, along with any kind of art medium, so in a sense it's already superhuman.

Unless you guys can just instantly think into existence dozens of variations of a photo of anything, even stuff that's literally impossible.

You can do that, right guys?

[Anonymous No.6093470]

>>6093347

[Anonymous No.6093474]

>>6093378
>has to post an image made by DALLE 1
t
This is the denial phase

[Anonymous No.6093503]

>>6093378
Imagine being so mentally challenged that you can only perceive what is happening in the current moment.

[Anonymous No.6093508]

zzzz

[Anonymous No.6093511]

Time to enjoy some AI generated music in real time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OR7mO2L5Kw

[Anonymous No.6093529]

>>6093347
looks pretty bad, theres no intention behind it. but its good as an idea generator. kind of like an advanced tasseography.
current ai is not very good, it doesnt have a full grasp of what an object is yet. it treats everything as a pattern.

[Anonymous No.6093533]

>>6093347
why, yes, I would love to make a game with no visual identity and no coherence.

[Anonymous No.6093538]

I'm not impressed with AI, come back in 10 years shill.

[Anonymous No.6093783]

>>6093074
It is (or at least was once) about 30 seconds to get 10 DALL-E 2 images, each 1024x1024 pixels.

[Anonymous No.6093797]

>>6093272
This AIs don't photobash. Artificial neural networks are used to generate the images. Some of the neural networks were trained on a large dataset of image+caption pairs, which let them generalize from the training dataset.

[Anonymous No.6093798]

>>6093470
Alistar chromas

[Anonymous No.6093806]

>>6093783
Isn't it not public? So technically it's not 30 seconds since most people can't even get images.

[Anonymous No.6093807]

>>6093188
just so you guys are aware, its only 1-2 mentally touched anons who create all the AI threads

[Anonymous No.6093810]

>>6093806
Thats not how that works, retard.
Its still 30s whether 1 person has access to it or 1 million.

[Anonymous No.6093812]

>>6093810
No it isn't. Until the public has access to it we can't properly test it. I don't trust anyone affiliated with the company itself. Until we can perform some tests on it the stupid AI isn't worth shit.

[Anonymous No.6093820]

>>6093812
dumbass lmao.

[Anonymous No.6093826]

>>6093806
Around 2,100 people had access for the date referenced in this article: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936794-is-dall-e-available-yet .

Here is a video recording of a live DALL-E 2 demo: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcTbRWaJOOC/ .

[Anonymous No.6093827]

>>6093812
nigga u gay simbe ass
>captcha: NI00ER
even AI knows

[Anonymous No.6093828]

>>6093820
>>6093826

I'll judge it when I can input something fucked up and get something good in return. Until then it's as useful as a shit salad.

[Anonymous No.6093830]

>>6093827
Yeah, it was calling you a NI00ER not me. Your captcha your fate.

[Anonymous No.6093831]

>>6093826
Action starts at 0:29 if I recall. A lot more DALL-E 2 images are posted at https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2 .

[Anonymous No.6093864]

You guys are being too pessimistic about it. Think of all the amazing shitpost the AI will create.
What a time to be alive!

[Anonymous No.6093869]

>>6093864
Source: https://labs.openai.com/s/XyI1Csh06naUOCiWQ8T35NlQ .

[Anonymous No.6093872]

>>6093864
Yeah but it's going to cause oversaturation and eventually people will get so tired of seeing cool meme shitposts they won't even bother enlarging or paying attention to them after a while. Even the non-ai generated ones will be ignored before long.

[Anonymous No.6093878]

>the art world is about to die 99%+
>/ic/ busy nitpicking, coping and acting retarded

[Anonymous No.6093879]

>>6093300
GPT-3 still sucks ass, though, and they've been working on that for fucking ever now. It still BARELY functions as a writing aide, and as far as actual storytelling goes, it's completely useless.

Image generation will be no different.

[Anonymous No.6093881]

This will do nothing but make art as a medium better for everyone.

You'll be able to take the shitty ai generated stuff and improve upon it.

[Anonymous No.6093887]

>>6093879
Some newer models are dwarfing GPT-3 now.
We are almost at 1 trillion parameters.

[Anonymous No.6093892]

Everyone knows 90% of the coveted art made by artists is porn art. If they control the server and don't allow porn or naughty stuff it'll be 10% useful.

[Anonymous No.6093893]

>>6093828
Make DALL-E 2 requests here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/v5l23l/dalle_2_requests_thread_7/

[Anonymous No.6093895]

>>6093878
>chess AI that can beat the best chess players has existed for over 3 deacdes, people still play chess
>aimbot hack clients exist in fps video games, competitive esports still exist
>TAS (tool assisted speedrunning) exists, people still speedrun
>calculators have been around for a while, math teachers still exist
>Tesla automated cars have been around for some time now, you probably still drive a car
>dota2 designed an AI that can outsmart the best dota2 pros, people still play the game
>tetris has had ai that can beat the best pros for decades now, competitive tetris still exists.

Do I need to go on, or do you see my point?

[Anonymous No.6093897]

>>6093887
And it still sucks. It fundamentally cannot do what it needs to do, which is understand abstract concepts and retain information contextually.

It's still just a pretty decent word guesser. That's all it does. It follows no logic of any kind, you can barely call it an AI.

[Anonymous No.6093898]

>>6093881
Yeah just like how the industrial revolution didn't put every craft in existence on life support if it didn't kill them off altogether.
>hurr technology gud jus incorpragte it in ur art lul
No one will give a fuck about your art anymore you damn fucking retards. Enjoy having hours of labor sent into an indifferent void. That is, if you simply don't give up altogether as it's far more convenient for you unprincipled cunts to just suck the teet of the machine for all eternity. This the fate I predict for you weak-willed consumerists anyway.
Also the stupidest cope of all is how you pretend we're somehow at the end point right now. It's no wonder /ic/ sucks so bad with an IQ level like this.

[Anonymous No.6093910]

>>6093895
Oh do tell me how photography didn't crush portrait painting into absolute irrelevancy.

[Anonymous No.6093913]

>>6093897
The thing about people like you is that you don't check the latest papers.

[Anonymous No.6093916]

>>6093898
Can it make the exact same character from different angles? If not, how is it going to compete with people who draw sexy waifus? It can't even make sexy pictures.

[Anonymous No.6093921]

Also the fact some if not most of you idiots eagerly wish to incorporate AI into your art, it's such a ridiculously short-sighted, self-destructive attitude.
You readily throw away the only thing that will remain to make your art significant or valuable - the fact it's uniquely your own, human vision. And you just can't wait to compromise exactly that! DROOLING FUCKING MORONS!

[Anonymous No.6093923]

>>6093916
>Also the stupidest cope of all is how you pretend we're somehow at the end point right now. It's no wonder /ic/ sucks so bad with an IQ level like this.
Can you even read like

[Anonymous No.6093929]

>>6093923
Yeah well guess what. You're going to die some day. Then your art won't mean shit. Guess you better worry about that while you're worrying about some shitty AI that will be used to make cat eating cheeseburger pictures until people get bored of it.

[Anonymous No.6093932]

>>6093916
Attempt using inpainting feature here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/ubm8c7/comment/i65wset/

[Anonymous No.6093934]

>>6093929
>hurr nothing matters you'll die anyway why do or care about literally anything
Well since there's no point in art or drawing what are you even doing here? Feel free to leave this board anytime.

[Anonymous No.6093936]

>>6093898
>Just wait just wait this is just the beginning
And there will be flying cars by the year 2000

There's always going to be a human touch in anything.

[Anonymous No.6093938]

>>6093934
Are you dumb? I literally made that post in response to exactly the thing you're accusing me of. It has absolutely nothing to do with my personal thoughts on art.

[Anonymous No.6093940]

>>6093938
You have thoughts? Impressive.

[Anonymous No.6093941]

>>6093940
Yeah, I think you don't understand what context means.

[Anonymous No.6093947]

Is the reason these threads are extra passive aggressive and shitty because they're full of redditors? I feel like these threads are bathed in onions.

[Anonymous No.6093958]

Ai will give an out to all the people who don't have what it takes to adapt and change, you'll finally have something to blame other than yourselves.

[Anonymous No.6093967]

>>6093958
Oh do tell me how you're planning to adapt.

[Anonymous No.6093974]

>>6092937
upscaled

[Anonymous No.6093984]

>>6093967
I'll adapt by ignoring it and it not affecting me in any way.

[Anonymous No.6093985]

>>6093164
btfo. Ghibli and anime will take over the world. FUCK PIXAR

[Anonymous No.6093988]

>>6093898
>No one will give a fuck about your art anymore you damn fucking retards. Enjoy having hours of labor sent into an indifferent void.
Unless you're in the top 0.1% of artists no one give a fuck about your art right now. You're extremely lucky if you can manage to convince someone to look at your work for even 3 seconds before the keep on scrolling and completely wipe it from their memory.

For the vast, vast, majority of artists this actually changes nothing, their art will be an unimportant in the future as it is now. The only people it's actually an issue for are pros and aspiring pros.

[Anonymous No.6094114]

>>6093910
The great regression in art after WW2 (but with origins before WW1) when abstract expressionism and flat graphic design took over is why portrait and all representational artists become irrelevant outside of commercial work, in comparison to their previous heights.
The best portrait artists were working well after the camera was invented, right into the 1920s in the case of Sargent.

[Anonymous No.6094726]

>>6093470
Wtf dude this is gonna kill concept artists 100% lol

[Anonymous No.6094757]

>>6092937
>what will dalle 3 do?
The same thing just slightly better? Like most software.

[Anonymous No.6094809]

>>6094726
The concept art process is itself quite algorithmic, so yes, they're going to be the first to be replaced

[Anonymous No.6094817]

>>6092937
It'll be able to shit post on /ic/. We'll all finally be able to take a break.

[Anonymous No.6094822]

>>6092993
Amen.

[Anonymous No.6094824]

>>6094809
Nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.6094827]

>>6093798
Who remember the terror of 2012 jungle Alistar

[Anonymous No.6094832]

>>6093503
Yeah, imagine

[Anonymous No.6094839]

>Preventing Harmful Generations
>We’ve limited the ability for DALL·E 2 to generate violent, hate, or adult images. By removing the most explicit content from the training data, we minimized DALL·E 2’s exposure to these concepts. We also used advanced techniques to prevent photorealistic generations of real individuals’ faces, including those of public figures.

>Curbing Misuse
>Our content policy does not allow users to generate violent, adult, or political content, among other categories. We won’t generate images if our filters identify text prompts and image uploads that may violate our policies. We also have automated and human monitoring systems to guard against misuse.

lmao, dropped. How long until someone makes a version of this AI that isn't filtered by fags?

[Anonymous No.6094922]

Bro it's over, how can artists compete with AI?

[Anonymous No.6094929]

>>6094839
>How long until someone makes a version of this AI that isn't filtered by fags?

AI is a complete resource hog. Basically making a standalone version for distribution to end users is a pipe dream as things currently are. It would have to be run on special servers. So relying on an entity that can afford such servers (usually a school or a business) is pretty much required. Which means you are subject to their rules and regulations.

[Anonymous No.6094957]

>>6093166
Never, it will be castrated by the woke police

[Anonymous No.6095038]

>>6092992
same. thank god I slacked and didn't invest too much into learning it. gonna go back and learn guitar now, which at least I enjoy doing

[Anonymous No.6095041]

>>6095038
Enjoy your guitar while I continue to create art. Because I making art.

[Anonymous No.6095047]

>>6095041
i didn't mean that as a "fuck you". I wish you all the best anon, believe me I fucking hate programmers and their desire to automate everything into soulless inhuman garbage. and I'm not talking just about art

[Anonymous No.6095051]

>>6095038
Enjoy the guitar while you can chud. AI will replace that too

[Anonymous No.6095056]

>>6095051
how will AI replace guitar retard? it's called a pre-recorded song

[Anonymous No.6095061]

>>6095056
AI will be able to compose new songs and the algorithm will acquire all kinds of fancy guitar techniques, that take humans years to learn, in seconds.

[Anonymous No.6095065]

>>6095041
The people most concerned about this are professional artists, this is erasing their career they spend decades attaining. If you make fine art or art as a hobby there's obviously no need to give a shit. If you're training to become a professional this is game over.

I feel like I wasted a significant portion of my life attaining a professional skillset that immediately became worthless, I should have kept art as a hobby and found a more resilient career, I'm going to have to completely re-skill in my 30s and I'm out of energy.

[Anonymous No.6095067]

So art is dead. Music is dead. Writing is dead. It's time to get a real job. Learn to code.

[Anonymous No.6095071]

>>6095061
retard, I'm saying playing the guitar not composing music and even so, no one will be impressed by shitty digital guitar. Second I'm never going to be a composer so i don't care. also, AI is already being employed in music creation but you cannot compare drawing and painting and music playing which will always involve an artist directly

[Anonymous No.6095074]

>>6095065
What kinds of things do you paint? Where are some examples of your work?

[Anonymous No.6095076]

>>6095067
unless you are in AI research coding is fucked too, I want to learn something else and have no idea what to do, I don't feel like spending 10 years mastering something else only to have to rug pulled out from me a second time.

[Anonymous No.6095078]

>>6095067
I can't wait for coding to die off as well and get killed by its own automating hand. I'd rather kill myself than become a soulless programmer

[Anonymous No.6095080]

>>6095071
You don't understand what I'm saying. Imagine a robot playing an acoustic guitar like the greatest guitarist in history, at your local bar or pub. Why would anyone want to listen to you if they can have that?

[Anonymous No.6095084]

>>6095067
Learning to code is on borrowed time. When the third world can do a job for cheaper and work from home tools and programs are being perfected more and more by the day, eventually you'll have to find a job in direct customer to customer service or manual labor. Both of which are also on borrowed time. So basically, humans as a whole will eventually be obsolete and anything requiring humans will be done by the cheapest labor force while everything else will be done by AI and robotics.

[Anonymous No.6095085]

>>6095074
I'm a concept artist and illustrator, I paint everything, environments, characters, vehicles, creatures, this effects all of this stuff. I'm not posting my work for obvious reasons. I could hold on and become an art director but being an AI handler and telling other people what to do was not why I got into art.

For now it'll be a good replacement for ref gathering but I'm not delusional, the amount of jobs are going to fall off a cliff and the value of the work is going to crater. I need to specialise in something else long term.

[Anonymous No.6095090]

>>6095076
What's the point of learning ANY skill or craft if AI will replace it in a matter of months/years? The process that began in the Industrial Revolution, when countless artisans lost their jobs to mills and factories, has culminated in our time, with literally all human work being made replaceable.

[Anonymous No.6095096]

>>6095080
because it will be labeled as a cheating machine and not a real artist. Also such a thing has already be attained and no one gives a fuck because of the aforementioned reason. This isn't like drawing where copying someone's art will get you labeled as a cheapskate and thief. If you cover someone else's song you'll be thought as someone being cool because you're able to play that song. The artist is an important centerpiece in playing music. No one wants to see a stupid robot play a song, they want the human to do it. even with electronic music the composer is there with his laptop during a concert, as dumb as that might look

[Anonymous No.6095097]

>>6095090
A common point of confusion here is that a professional career is the same as a hobby. Art is no longer a viable career, the specific professional skillset associated with art will be worthless in a handful of years. Many of the hardest skills in art are no longer justifiable as a core pursuit because you will starve if you try. Right now it's about surviving till UBI when I can draw for my own sake but being one of the first professions to go is going to fuck us over.

[Anonymous No.6095102]

>>6095096
>because it will be labeled as a cheating machine and not a real artist
There's no reason to think this will happen. These things will pass the music turing test; people won't even be able to distinguish man from machine. You're betting on the masses going "hurr we prefer human music because robots don't have an identity". They will fix that problem easily. Imagine a Hatsune Miku bot singing in front of tens of thousands of otaku. Imagine an Elvis bot singing in front of nostalgic boomers.

[Anonymous No.6095106]

>>6095102
I'm not sure how to explain this better to you. This has already been attained (robots playing instruments)and it has not replaced human composers or musicians, and it never will. At best you can be "that niche guy who uses robots to play music" for the single "woah" factor. And the elvis bot is a bad example. Elvis was a human first of all so the robot would piggy back on his fame. And who do you think that people will prefer to see? A robot imitating Elvis, or a human doing it? Why has Randy Hansen replaced Jimi Hendrix and not some dumb robot that plays his songs instead?

[Anonymous No.6095112]

>>6095097
I think art will always be a viable career. AI is good at certain things and fails miserably at other things. You can say it will eventually close those gaps, but I don't believe it so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Anonymous No.6095118]

>>6095112
The point isn't whether it will replace humans 100%, its going to replace them 95% and you will be tasked with fixing its errors or providing a seed. This isn't the same job as an artist, its art direction which is telling other things what to do.

The major problem here is that it devalues the entire skill of visualising, so yes some art jobs will survive but the vast majority will not and they will pay worse. Once it reaches this stage it is no longer worth pursuing as a career because its analogous to spending 7 years in med school for a hard as fuck minimum wage job

[Anonymous No.6095122]

>>6092985
sorry, but if you start generating images and copy them to redraw improved versions that's cheating and honestly worse than tracing. art will simply be ruined. I know normiefags won't care but for me the more you remove the human element the less of a quality it is. Tools are one thing, your art being 90% generated by an AI is simply soulless

[Anonymous No.6095124]

>>6095118
i work in accounting and this is basically what half of my job is, fixing errors caused by shitty AI. For accounting it's whatever but for art you might as well stop pretending you're an artist.

[Anonymous No.6095128]

>>6095124
This is why I would rather quit and do something else than continue as an AI babysitter.

[Anonymous No.6095129]

An artist's job is to bring ideas to life and advocate for them. They develop their talents and even become a sort of subtextual mascot for their visions as a result of their mission to assist others in seeing what they do. Artists who are terrified of technology that alleviates this load are more concerned with their identity as artists than with the actual experience of art. Because, in some ways, the artist's more anxious incentives are not only to create art, but also to be the first to create art so that they can claim to be the primary authority on the art's discourse. Their importance will be diminished as art moves away from them and becomes a more independent phenomenon. Their interpretations will be on an equal footing, and they will have to be intriguing and compelling on their own, as they will no longer be able to depend on authorial intent arguments. Art will be associated with scenes rather than individuals.

[Anonymous No.6095131]

>>6095118
>>6095122

Do you guys realize how large the art industry is? It's more than just concept artists and single painting illustrators. I'm sure some big businesses will cut their artists if they can, because that's what big businesses do. For many artists though, this AI improving will not mean anything. Not to mention, if the AI is doing something that can compete with your job you can get smart and use it like a tool. Improve what the AI spits out. If you don't want to do that then try something different I guess.

[Anonymous No.6095139]

When is it going to be available to the public anyway or is it some kind of paid thing?

[Anonymous No.6095157]

>>6095131
I know the art field is larger than the entertainment industry but look at what site you're on, concept art, illustration, animation or comics is what 95% of people here want to do. we're not here to study how to paint signs, make craft shit on etsy or build sculptures for an art gallery, if you are then I have no idea why you're on ic.

There's also the simple fact that one of the few remaining art careers that pays a decent, stable wage is going to disappear.

[Anonymous No.6095164]

>>6095157
It's not going to disappear. This whole hysteria is overblown. Show me one piece of concept art it has made (post it here, don't link it) of a character.

[Anonymous No.6095169]

>>6095131
this isn't just about being an artist. it's going to ruin drawing and art in general. I don't want to look at art made by AI it's worthless

[Anonymous No.6095171]

>>6095169
No it won't. There's nothing here to suggest that it will. It's more hysteria.

[Anonymous No.6095178]

>>6095164
>>6095171
You lack foresight.

[Anonymous No.6095186]

>>6095178
Fuck off with your cryptic defeatist bullshit. You're such a pussy ass doomer.

[Anonymous No.6095187]

>>6095164
I cant be assed to post it direct, I don't see how you can look at the shit this guy is doing with midjourney and not see the near term potential once the AI solves the fucked up anatomy, it can already make photorealistic faces and its sense of style is already beyond most artists, its trained on the best art throughout human history. With environmental and mood pieces its already there.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdRjS2rPhtc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdP0r73ualB/

people who aren't concerned are looking at outdated tech.

[Anonymous No.6095188]

if you're some concept kek artist who just shits out random designs, you're probably fuckefd. if you're some braindead coomer artist who just shits out sameface on traced sexual poses and slaps on flavor of the month costume and hair and details, you're fucked. but if you're actually have something to say and are a storyteller and your art has some actual brain and SOUL behind it, you're gonna be just fine. some fucking glorified random generator AI can't replace that.

[Anonymous No.6095189]

>>6095188
The only artists in the entertainment industry that applies to is comic book artists and that profession is already dead for a westoid.

[Anonymous No.6095191]

death of the artist
birth of the AI shaman

[Anonymous No.6095194]

>>6095187
The first one looks terrible to me outside of the spectacle of it, and the second one is pretty cool but proves that AI is doing what it does best... Creating abominations of mashed up things. So I guess if horror and body mutation is your goal AI will be able to help with that.

[Anonymous No.6095196]

>>6095194
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uKp6tBFStnsvrot5t/what-dall-e-2-can-and-cannot-do

[Anonymous No.6095197]

>>6095189
Comic artists make thousands per month on subscription services what are you talking about? Create something people want and they will pay you.

[Anonymous No.6095204]

>>6095194
You are judging it based on what it can do right now which is obviously a dumb thing to do. These are minor problems it will solve in the next 5 years. They have already achieved the most important thing, pleasing aesthetics and composition, the rest is just detail which is what machines are best at.

It's very easy to imagine supplying a photo of a person in a specific pose then just asking it to apply a stylistic filter and a costume mashup per request. There are no permanent limitations here.

[Anonymous No.6095205]

>>6095189
well it not only applies to the art itself but also the creator behind it. look at most the top art influencers on Instagram, youtube, and Patreon they all have personality, charisma, and share their lives and stories with their fans. people aren't just going to suddenly stop liking and supporting actual living breathing artists that fans feel a connection to just because some cold dead AI can pump out random mashed-up images that might look kinda cool but literally meaningless overall

[Anonymous No.6095207]

>>6095197
making thousands per month is minimum wage, you can make tens of thousands as a freelancer right now.

[Anonymous No.6095210]

>>6095205
I don't know about you but i didn't become an artist in order to be an e-celeb. If the art no longer speaks for itself then fuck it, ill leave it to the attention whores.

[Anonymous No.6095212]

>>6095205
>people aren't just going to suddenly stop liking and supporting actual living breathing artists that fans feel a connection to just because some cold dead AI can pump out random mashed-up images that might look kinda cool but literally meaningless overall
maybe not this decade. but they will when they've been generating images of a similar appearance on their iphones since they were 8 years old. it cheapens the "WOW YOURE SO GOOD!" factor.

[Anonymous No.6095213]

>>6095210
just cause someone becomes an e-celeb by doing art doesn't mean their are not a great artist. i guess if you have no personality or ability to connect with others and some heartless computer program can easily replace you, then kek you really should be worried and might just be FUCKED

[Anonymous No.6095215]

>>6095210
>. If the art no longer speaks for itself
Isn't that the good thing about all this though? Art can finally stand on its own. Ideas that are good will be selected by the scene and the only thing that will change is that there will be no one to thank (or worship).

[Anonymous No.6095218]

>>6095188
>if you're some braindead coomer artist who just shits out sameface on traced sexual poses and slaps on flavor of the month costume and hair and details, you're fucked
Hey guys, he don`t know hahahaha

[Anonymous No.6095220]

>>6095215
The problem is the art doesn't say anything yet nobody will be able to tell or really care. We will live within mindless pastiche till the end of time, nobody will bother to develop the skills to push beyond it because its not worth it.

[Anonymous No.6095225]

>>6095213
ok buddy, have fun posting pictures of your cat and what you ate for breakfast, the majority of people who post pure art are fucked.

[Anonymous No.6095231]

>>6095220
I'm not sure I understand your reply exactly. What is on my mind is that this is going to change how people perceive art in a rather forceful way in the simple fact that there will be a time where you look at a drawing and will have no way of knowing if it was created by a human or not. Eventually the link between art and artist will fade so dramatically that people will just start assuming that any picture they see is a product of a computer. They will stop looking for the artist. He is gone.

[Anonymous No.6095233]

>>6095225
>the majority of people who post pure art are fucked
not if they offer some actual value that can't be replaced by an AI. personal videos, tutorials, advice, chatting with fans, being a fucking person and having a human spirit. you know things that a computer will never be able to replace. the artists that can do that will be fine, the others will evolve or die. oh fucking well.

[Anonymous No.6095239]

>>6095204
It can't do complex scenes at all. Maybe when they fix that issue I'll be impressed.

[Anonymous No.6095242]

>>6095207
No you cannot. At least not easily.

[Anonymous No.6095248]

>>6095215
No, because if this is widely available there will be so much content bloat that people will get overload and move on to other things. If it's as easy to make a pretty picture as typing a prompt and hitting enter people will be posting millions of images non-stop on all social media platforms. Scarcity and rarity also add value to a thing. Oversaturation hugely devalues things. I think people underestimate how much devaluation is going to occur.

[Anonymous No.6095250]

>>6095231
Except for coom artists. Because you know, this will never not be gatekept by the company that made it, and you'll never have a version which will allow you to do anything considered lewd or politically incorrect.

[Anonymous No.6095259]

Artists will care more about the process and technique, so of course AI will be nothing more than a tool for them to use.
The problem is that the audience doesn't really give a shit about art to begin with. It will never matter to them who, what or how the image flickering before them for .25 seconds was created. Pearls before swine.

[Anonymous No.6095263]

>>6095233
>computers won't replace friend simulators
lmao

[Anonymous No.6095269]

>>6095248
You and I agree perfectly I think. All I was saying was that this is only the end (or demotion at least) of artists, and not art. It isn't like there is just going to be a bunch of scattered images that no one knows what to do with. Appreciation, use, and discourse of art will continue through a sort of darwinian fashion.

[Anonymous No.6095306]

>>6095269
This kind of AI requires huge data sets to function. That's why the best images it makes are constructed of parts from things that are very common. The more complex or unique a scene gets, the less useful an AI like DALL-e is going to be. I would argue that even in 100 years it won't be able to make such complex scenes simply because the datasets that it would need to train on are not there. For small scope illustrations, especially ones which use common subjects such as cats, DALL-e will give incredible results in some cases.

Basically if you're worried about your art career, think about how DALL-e works and its weaknesses. Then figure out which weaknesses it cannot cover due to things like lack of information to train on. Then focus or move your art in that direction if you can.

Yes, if your job is to illustrate paintings or images of cats then I am sorry. You might lose your job.

If you make comics I would argue that you will always be ok. Just due to how DALL-e learns and what is reasonable based on that knowledge. If you draw smut, you're probably going to be good. If you make complex scenes made up of multiple characters and or do work for clients which ask for very specific features I think you'll be alright. A talented artist who can tweak a design exactly as requested beats an AI that takes calculation time to create something which might be hit or miss.

I think DALL-e is pretty cool and will have a lot of uses, but I definitely don't think it's going to cripple the art industry. Especially if you take into account the company running it and their requirements and terms or conditions for using their service.

[Anonymous No.6095311]

Good morning retards. I happen to be a traditionalist well read in the esoteric aesthetics of Coomaraswamy and Burckhardt. The artists who believe in a mechanistic cosmos devoid of soul and spirit are the ones who are shitting themselves right now. As far as they are concerned, the art process is purely mechanical, and big bad AI is simply a far more complex entity on the same operating plane as themselves. If only there was something more to life..

>"Now I a fourfold vision see And a fourfold vision is given to me Tis fourfold in my supreme delight And three fold in soft Beulahs night And twofold Always. May God us keep From Single vision & Newtons sleep." - William Blake

[Anonymous No.6095317]

>>6095306
You have some good points here. I guess an optimistic take is that this tech will probably give birth to a completely new way of drawing.

[Anonymous No.6095321]

>>6095317
by randomly generating a shit image and "fixing it"? it won't make it even a little bit less soulless. I am afraid of how much "fixed" art will be serviced in the future. at least photobashing is obvious and I can avoid that trash

[Anonymous No.6095340]

>>6095321
>by randomly generating a shit image and "fixing it"?
I guess? Like generating the image and making selections recursively until you sculpt it into what you actually want. Right now the input is just short concise descriptions. Later there might be ways for generating images with more precise parameters. It could feel like sketching without the mess.

[Anonymous No.6095472]

>>6095225
If you're an anti-social misanthropic autist then yeah I guess you're fucked

[Anonymous No.6095511]

>>6095047
> believe me I fucking hate programmers and their desire to automate everything into soulless inhuman garbage. and I'm not talking just about art
Deal with it faggot, reading this makes me wanna code harder just so I can see the seething and the spite, fucking lol
>” Hurd ur you’re just bitter and a ngmi”
Centuries of pointless human cruelty can’t be washed away or explained simply as reactionary, I just love seeing you little niggers squirm

[Anonymous No.6095521]

>>6095511
you can code harder, at the end of the day, you'll still be a soulless retard despised by the rest of the planet, who will shit out mediocrity due to prioritizing "efficiency". so you'll shit out quantity over quality, and you'll always be an inferior cockroach. i've recently noticed a trend of arrogant desk shackled IT retards getting shat on more and more, I hope it continues.

[Anonymous No.6095525]

>>6095472
I just don't understand your perspective at all, I don't follow artists for their personality, I don't give a shit who they are or what kind of life they lead. I just look at pictures.

[Anonymous No.6095531]

>>6095521
If he's not doing AI research he's not your enemy and he's in line to be automated out of a job too

[Anonymous No.6095533]

>>6095531
i'm talking about the automatization insectoids, obviously

[Anonymous No.6095534]

>>6095521
> i've recently noticed a trend of arrogant desk shackled IT retards getting shat on more and more, I hope it continues
Well, I sure hope so, after all, all publicity is good publicity, and seeing people lose their shit is top kek. However much you might think I’m a nigger, artists are such catty and scummy pricks that this is a deserved turn of events. And I don’t give a shit what features think when I’m making the big bucks and retire in under a decade, SEEETHE

[Anonymous No.6095541]

>>6095534
>big bucks
there are better things to do for big bucks. and big bucks or not, at the end of the day, code monkeys are still boring, arrogant shitty verming with a superiority complex and I'd never want to be in their skin. so don't even try to spin this as some kind of "muh jealousy" shit

[Anonymous No.6095556]

Enjoy your big bucks. I have food, clothes, shelter and comfort with money to spare. I don't need big bucks, and I wouldn't waste a second of my time chasing after extra money I don't need.

[Anonymous No.6095602]

>>6093895
while I disagree with the one you quoted but most of your example is sport, not production. People enjoy seeing the performance. That why trad youtuber/tiktoker/instagram artist has to post their hand speedpaint.
The industry production will definitely be affected (probably not much in the near future, who know in the far future). Photoshop single handedly nuked the film poster art is one of the instance. 3D paintover is taking another chunk in concept art now since 3D is fast and easy now is another instance where technology affects image production.

[Anonymous No.6095608]

>>6095556
based and frugalpilled. honestly the only reason I'm saving money is for potential health issues. I have everything I need as I laugh at consooomers chasing carrots on the stick like wild animals

[Anonymous No.6095963]

I tried to paint over one of the AI pictures.
Honestly it wasn`t to bad, there is a lot of abstract textures and details, that can be useful.

[Anonymous No.6095968]

>>6095963
P.S. it would help a lot if i was able to move the hair freely. I saw some invidia demos. You could just draw some green lines, and the AI rendered a forest. Would be nice i you cold make something like this, with hair on a portrait.

[Anonymous No.6095970]

>>6095963
>gave it anime features

lmao, fuck the world

[Anonymous No.6095999]

>>6095970
I`m a coomer artist, i couldn`t help myself. Sorry...

[Anonymous No.6096142]

>>6095963
yeah I prefer the AI one

[Anonymous No.6096159]

>>6096142
Why?

[Anonymous No.6096308]

>>6092976
Spoken like a true crab faggot. No one cares sperg. Death to AI

[Anonymous No.6096319]

>>6092979
but that fucking sucks. this still ruins art

[Anonymous No.6096350]

>>6096319
Just because something's a tool, doesn't mean you have to use it. You can always rebel and go back to traditional methods, like how The Lighthouse, was in black and white. Despite being made in 2019

[Anonymous No.6097063]

>>6095511
>Deal with it faggot, reading this makes me wanna code harder just so I can see the seething and the spite, fucking lol
99% chance that you are a self taught webshitter without a degree and those run the highest risk of being automated. You should hate AI researchers.

[Anonymous No.6097074]

>>6092937
Can someone explain why there are so many threads about AI now?
We get it, it'll take over the art industry.
How does that stop people from continuing to draw for themselves?
Just because AI can produce something better, doesn't take away one's passion for creating.

[Anonymous No.6097094]

>>6097074
Many people want to switch from their soulless STEM bug job into a creative digital art job. But they are afraid that AI automates them away (they will automate web devs before that) and that scares them.

[Anonymous No.6097138]

>>6096159
The new facial fetures are completely different in style, they look artificially smooth and lack the texture/detail of the AI abomination. The shading also doesn't match up, the original has darker & deeper shadows.

[Anonymous No.6097282]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTgPSKKjfVg

[Anonymous No.6097314]

>>6093205
Because this world is filled to the brim with retards

[Anonymous No.6097319]

>>6097074
No one have passion, everyone trying to make fame and money.

[Astr5a No.6097350]

Looks good, follow your passion if u are doing art.
But do it just for passion, because art wont give you anything else then pleasure.

[Anonymous No.6097366]

Is there a way to use MidJourney or something similar right now?
I like the textures of MJ but it`s in close alpha or something.

[Anonymous No.6097387]

>>6093864
>What a time to be alive!
based karoly tsolnai-kehér

[Anonymous No.6097389]

>>6097319
That is so bad.

[Anonymous No.6097445]

>>6097074
>Can someone explain why there are so many threads about AI now?
Because it is interesting and makes for interesting fodder for discussions about the future of art and the philosophy of authorship.

[Anonymous No.6098202]

>>6092937
Yikes, I'm starting to think Karl Marx had a point.

[Anonymous No.6098488]

>>6097074
>it'll take over the art industry.
lol have you even tried using it? you barely even have any control over what you get. it is basically just glorified photobashing.

it will definitely be used everywhere but the only thing that can actually replace a human is AGI which is just hopium atm

[Anonymous No.6098921]

>>6097138
And now?

[Anonymous No.6098929]

>>6098488
Yes, right now, but give it a year or two and you will be able to modify individual parts however you want. Hell, I think you can do it right now with DALL-e 2.
Creator of this, Sam Altman, is practically gloating how this will replace artists 3-5 years.

[Anonymous No.6098951]

Any pro's thinking about quitting and starting a new career? What is everyone thinking of doing instead of art?

[Anonymous No.6098957]

>>6098951
I....don't know.Been doing this for more than a decade, so this is the only thing I am good at...

[Anonymous No.6098974]

>>6098957
It fucking sucks but it's inevitable, I don't want to be in a constant state of anxiety about losing my career to a machine so its probably best to shift focus while I can. I just have no idea what to do, seems like all creative jobs are getting automated first which is the opposite of what everyone expected.

[Anonymous No.6098980]

You guys honestly think this AI is going to take your careers?

[Anonymous No.6098982]

>>6098929
>Creator of this, Sam Altman, is practically gloating how this will replace artists 3-5 years.
Hahaha, yeah like there is no way a homosexual jew, would lie to us, hmm?

[Anonymous No.6098988]

>>6098982
Looks like his lips got stuck to the windshield. They really do take 1,000 photos and pick the worst ones.

[Anonymous No.6098990]

>>6098980
Have you seen any of it? Even in its current unreleased form this thing is an absolute force. So much that the company is practically scared to release it. This is going to change art a lot. This should be on everyone's mind as they consider their role as artists.

[Anonymous No.6098991]

>>6098982
Sure, he could be lying, but I don't wanna gamble with my wellbeing.I wanna focus on something that will generate steady flow of income in the future, like my current art job.

[Anonymous No.6098995]

>>6098980
What careers?

[Anonymous No.6098998]

>>6098974
>constant state of anxiety
That pretty much sums up my last 4 days.

[Anonymous No.6099006]

>>6098988
>They really do take 1,000 photos and pick the worst ones.
AI will solve this problem, next year.
>>6098991
They will replace you any way, with robots, with AI, with immigrants. It`s over for you, you have no future anymore. There is only way out of this, yo know what to do. Do you?

[Anonymous No.6099009]

>>6098990
>>6098995
Mainly concept artists who make concepts and advertisers or single image illustrations I guess?
It can't do traditional and it can't do comics or complex stuff. So if you're an artist can you change your focus a bit or are you stuck in the area that the AI excels at?

[Anonymous No.6099010]

>>6098998
Very good, you have all reasons to be. Viruses, global warming, nuclear war with Russia... It`s all very scary.

[Anonymous No.6099013]

>>6099010
Holy fuck, you just gave me an idea what I could do if digital art dies.

[Anonymous No.6099017]

Oh no now there is no reason for me to leran to draw lolis in maid suits right?

[Anonymous No.6099020]

>>6099017
What else are you going to do when the power grid goes down?

[Anonymous No.6099023]

>>6099020
Actually i wish for a nuke explosion upon my head everyday so all this ai bullshitery isn't really worry me

[Anonymous No.6099026]

>>6099009
>It can't do traditional and it can't do comics or complex stuff. So if you're an artist can you change your focus a bit or are you stuck in the area that the AI excels at?
Why do you think it will stop here? It is quite easy to see that the trained "artist" middle man between the public's need and usages of symbolic art is vanishing. Art will probably transform into something else entirely. We will need an entire new philosophy to deal with figuring out exactly what it is.

[Anonymous No.6099033]

The way that online art communities (especially jp/anime/manga) have so meticulously tagged images and organized themselves over the past decade goes hand in hand with this technology.

[Anonymous No.6099034]

>>6099026
You're taking it too far to the extremes. Go back and read the whole thread there are some good points brought up in this thread and the other one that I'm not going to keep reiterating on. The short answer is no, AI won't grow exponentially like some people here think. It will have limitations like anything else. It has shortcomings that aren't easy to overcome. At least that's my take on it.

[Anonymous No.6099038]

>>6099034
Jump from DALL-e to DALL-e 2 was exponential and that was only 1 year difference? Its hard not to go into extremes when you see things like that.

[Anonymous No.6099045]

>>6098980
Its just going to get harder and harder to find well paying work, you can stick around at a studio and cling on but ultimately the job will be devalued and less interesting to perform. I would move into coding or something but it seems like that's next on the chopping block, unless you're a genius working on bleeding edge research which I probably can't since I spend my youth learning art.

[Anonymous No.6099047]

>>6099038
>Jump from DALL-e to DALL-e 2 was exponential and that was only 1 year difference?
The only thing that is exponential, is the difficulty level. At the beginning you do make a lot of progress, but it ends very quickly.
Look back at any AI product in the past. Alexa, youtube subtitle generator and translator etc.
You have a good amount of progress in the first years.
Look at Alexa, stagnation for years. And "speaking" is waaay easier than painting.
I mean you are stupid, you have no idea what you talking about, Dunning Krueger effect and shit? You know?

[Anonymous No.6099049]

>>6099034
dalle 2 is already good enough to replace many low level art careers, the difference between them and high level concept artists or illustrators really isn't that vast, its just training them on different data sets. Many of the most difficult problems have been solved, now its just fine tuning and addition.

[Anonymous No.6099054]

>>6099049
>dalle 2 is already good enough to replace many low level art careers
Any proof nigger? Or is all you do just talking shit and trolling noobs?
How many translators were replaced by google translator, hmm nigger?

[Anonymous No.6099071]

>>6099034
what specific shortcomings does it have that cannot be overcome? I can't see any.

[Anonymous No.6099076]

>>6099047
>And "speaking" is waaay easier than painting.
It is not. Utterances have to be contextually relevant, grammatically correct, informative, and intelligible in real time. Generated art can be selected by the masses and evolve to be "just right" recursively over time.

[Anonymous No.6099093]

>>6099076
Generated art takes a metric ton of sample data of the same or similar objects before it can do what it does.

[Anonymous No.6099115]

>>6099093
Even if Dall-e 2 were launched commercially today and remained permanently frozen at that point, recursive human engagement with the technology would produce the exact art that people seek through a darwinian process. It's not just about this technology becoming more clever over time, it's also about how the visuals that it can already make evolving and stabilizing into important works through human selection. The only thing that developing dall-e achieves after this level is to accelerate this mode of evolution, yet it already develops a new mechanism for art to emerge on its own even at this current level.

[Anonymous No.6099128]

>>6099115
>>6099076
Let me guess, your favorite tv show is Rick and Morty?

[Anonymous No.6099129]

>>6098951
I'm a nurse. I draw as a hobby.

[Anonymous No.6099131]

>>6099128
Azumanga Daioh

[Anonymous No.6099135]

>>6099131
Okey, let me guess your second fav tv show, is it Rick and Morty? It is, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6099145]

>>6099129
I wish i kept it as a hobby, gave up everything to grind it out so I could relax when I was older but now I'm back at square 1.

[Anonymous No.6099146]

>>6099135
No. Not really into animated sitcoms. And I guess you're trying to bill me as "epic heckin science lover" when really my fascination with this topic probably comes from my more pomo bend.

[Anonymous No.6099169]

[Anonymous No.6099178]

>>6098951
>>6099129
>Pro
Forgot to read that

[Anonymous No.6099188]

>>6099146
You have no idea about science, for you it's like magic. You believe everything a tech jew will tell you.
But in reality, technology is way more boring than you imagine.
I think you are young as well. If you would have lived longer, you would see a pattern.
A new technology arrives.
The tech jews shill it on every corner.
They tell you, look it is a piece of shit, but in 3 years it will be perfect and it ill revolutionize everything.
But after 20 years it still a piece of shit.
The examples are endless.
As the first Ocolus came out, the tech jew said, it will replace every single monitor in 3 years, nobody will play games on a LCD anymore, matrix n shit.
It is literally the same with every new thing.
And the reason the tech jews can do it, ist that there are so much stupid niggers like you, who thinks tech is magic.

[Anonymous No.6099196]

>>6099188
God this board sucks.

[Anonymous No.6099522]

>>6099188
begone /pol/
shoo

[Anonymous No.6099575]

[Anonymous No.6099577]

[Anonymous No.6099585]

>>6099577
RIP Getty images.

[Anonymous No.6099603]

Question before this thread dies. Who exactly owns the copyright, if there are any, of these images. The creators, the average person messing with the parameters, the artist the AI tried to imitate or no one?

[Anonymous No.6099605]

>>6099603
By creators I meant the devs/owner

[Anonymous No.6099607]

>>6099603
we just have to wait till it gets big enough for proper laws to be made
but i dont think they have the rights for the images used to train it

[Anonymous No.6099615]

Hey look, someone made a thread about this subject on /g/, why don't you guys immigrate there, just to fuck with them?

>>>/g/87276344

[Anonymous No.6099636]

>>6099603
nobody knows, that's why you cant currently copyright AI art. It's absolutely fucked that they can just take copyrighted data, make an algorithm to replicate an entire life's work then make money off the revenue that newly unemployed artist will now never see. When these programs start trying to make money there's going to be a billion lawsuits.

[Anonymous No.6099666]

>>6099636
You can't copyright an art style. Dalle uses James Gurneys work and his name, and this old fart is even promoting this shit. Maybe cos he knows, he can't do shit about it.

[Anonymous No.6099696]

>>6099666
The AI is training using his images, without his permission. Gurney doesn't give a shit because he is basically retired and eating popcorn from the side-lines. Using an artists name which signifies use of his copyrighted work to make a product you charge for is a legal grey zone.

[Anonymous No.6099734]

>>6092937
Custom video/animation based on any input. Perhaps with dalle 4 tho

[Anonymous No.6099737]

>>6099071
no proper composition, bad values and lighting, trash anatomy, and it will never make a picture with whatever you imagine to the smallest detail. It all looks soulless and reeks of. These things cannot replace humans. I work in accounting and stemtards only automated part of my job, and that part transformed into tons of errors i must correct because the AI is garbage

[Anonymous No.6099738]

>>6098488
>AGI
which will never happen in our lifetimes despite silicon valley delusions so there's really nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.6099742]

>>6099737
*It all reeks of "this was made by an AI"

[Anonymous No.6099745]

>>6098929
you can't replace artists. If you are not the one making the art and leaving the mark on the canvas you are not an artist no matter how much you cope.

[Anonymous No.6099762]

>>6099737
It doesn't need to be as good as humans, only good enough.
For most people, good enough is enough, and that's when you no longer hire an artist.

[Anonymous No.6099772]

>>6099575
That's a face of a man that knows it's all over.
We had a good run boys.

[Anonymous No.6099781]

>>6099762
don't care, it will never replace artists as a concept and it will still have less value. It will never be better than an artist. But if what you say is true, than all art in the future will be shit and look like shit. That's more alarming than anything else

[Anonymous No.6099791]

>>6099781
You obviously care.

[Anonymous No.6099804]

>>6099791
I obviously don't and i explained why. It will never be able to beat a skilled human

[Anonymous No.6099808]

>>6099804
Sure thing...

[Anonymous No.6099818]

>>6099808
cope. You will NEVER EVER EVER gonna make it. You will type in your keywords and generate a mediocre AI pile of trash. You will pick the least shitty one and seethe as you're asked for the drawing process as evidence that it's yours. You will stare at it, unable to properly correct whatever is off with it, because you have 0 skill in anything

[Anonymous No.6099825]

>>6099818
problem is, you're also arguing with people who already made it and now have to shift. This is hard for you to accept because you want to make it in a world that is about to vanish.

[Anonymous No.6099829]

>>6099818
I probably paint and draw better than you, I'd watch your mouth if I were you.

>>6099825
Great, concise post.
There will be no longer a point in "making it" very soon, at least economically. I say it as an artist. Coding is also going soon.

[Anonymous No.6099832]

>>6099825
I'm not gonna make it ai or not. What i said stands true, sorry. You will have an image in your mind and you will seethe that the AI will give you a result that it's both inaccurate and uglier. I'm sorry STEMcuck, but you will never be an artist

[Anonymous No.6099834]

>>6099829
At least i can still be an uber driver.

[Anonymous No.6099836]

>>6099834
That's going to go too, kek.

[Anonymous No.6099847]

>>6099836
I've heard this 10 years ago. No progress has been made and even when it happens, all ai cars will still have drivers.

[Anonymous No.6099859]

>>6099836
What lol no. It is easy to replace painters, i think Dalle 4 will come in 2-3 years and eliminate all artistic jobs.
But self driving cars are way harder. They will nee d at least 10, probably 25, 30... more years. Sorry my uber job will stay safe, for much longer than yours.

[Anonymous No.6099874]

If you build a system there are 2 possibilities.
One is your "game" is finite (like chess) or it is infinite.
And painting is finite, the AI can easily find out the perfect solution. If you write your text down, like a blond girl, with a gun in hot pens etc. The AI can generate a perfect version of your picture. Is just math, no creativity.
But driving a car i something completely different, the game is infinite. It is impossible to know, where every car on earth is going. You would nee a super computer in every car, to make self driving possible.

[Anonymous No.6099880]

>>6099874
>It is impossible to know, where every car on earth is going. You would nee a super computer in every car, to make self driving possible.
If all the cars are self driving then they will be connected. They won't have to guess or figure out, the cars will just report info back and forth.

[Anonymous No.6099891]

Niggers tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.6099892]

>>6099880
Yes you are right. This is the joke on self driving cars, they are so extremely complicated, it's easier to build a system without individual cars.
If you build a centralized system, a big computer can manage all the vehicles. The difference is, the main cameras are on the roads, not on the cars.
A centralized tragic system is a finite game, and is much easier to make. But it will still take 10 years or something.
And of course, it cant be mixed with human drivers, it has to be completely automated.
So yeah, I'm very sure AI can't replace drivers, but it can and will the hole system.

[Anonymous No.6099899]

>>6099859
Whatever Dall-E 4 can generate, it can also recognize, in the road, faster than a human. Dall-E 4 will be put in the car and be used to make the car recognize different objects in the road.

[Anonymous No.6099902]

Ah yes, fine talking about something that I'm reading. Keke.

[Anonymous No.6099907]

>>6099899
No, DALLE is not a General AI. You would nee an AGI to make a self driving car. But for painting, it's an overkill.
A human wouldn't be able to understand art, coming from a real AGI, AGI's would make art for other AGI's. But no human will be able to understand. Let your dog watch a Bergman movie, same as showing a human AGI art.

[Anonymous No.6099917]

>>6099907
that's very convenient. the supposed agi will output some meaningless blobs and people will say that it's actually very deep, humans just can't understand
if it can't make art humans can make, then it's not an agi. but this is pointless because agi is a pipedream

[Anonymous No.6099919]

None of this is a problem if you draw for enjoyment and to create your own shit. Odds are, you probably weren’t going to make it in industry commercial art anyway bc you lack connections, which is the only actual thing you need to succeed. Freelance work is soulcrushing hell that pays a pittance and deserves to be replaced by AI as far as I’m concerned. I advise you switch to art being a hobby, I did a few years ago bc freelance sucks and I’ve never been happier making my own stuff.

[Anonymous No.6099930]

It's not fair bros.
Every aspect of my life has been a giant failure. I literally have nothing to be proud of except my art. Now they are about to destroy the one and only thing from which I derive self-esteem.
It's not fair. Why can't I get to have anything in life? This must be a cruel joke.

[Anonymous No.6099937]

>>6099917
Yes, AGI is just science fiction at this moment.
>>6099919
You can't do it for fun, a be good at it. To be a good artist, you need to do it every day for a long time, and this is only possible if you get paid.
AI will suck up all the money and destroy art forever.

[Anonymous No.6099939]

>>6099930
life is shit and unfair, just be happy that your career is what you're worried about and not bombs dropping on your head.

[Anonymous No.6099944]

>>6099939
At this point I wish they would simply drop a bomb on me and just get it over with. The point is to drive me into suicide yes? They want me to die.

[Anonymous No.6099945]

>>6099930
If it's so easy to replace artist, witch low tech AI's developed in under 5 years, maybe art was always worthless. I'm not even kidding, you will be replaced before people at McDonalds will be.

[Anonymous No.6099947]

>>6099945
It wasn't worthless to me.

[Anonymous No.6099952]

>>6099919
it doesn't if you're a turd worlder like me who owns a house. anyway this meme AI will never replace skilled artists. "but it will be cheaper" you say, but that's retarded. Why not hire cheaper artists then and shit out mediocre art with nonsensical lighting, badly focused composition, and poor anatomy if normies do not care. Because that's what DALL-E is and what it will always be. Why is effort to make good art being made now?"But those people will be left without jobs". If you were aiming for that shit that's pathetic, being a janitor is more interesting.

[Anonymous No.6099953]

>>6099945
The entire white collar class is going to get replaced before the McDonalds worker

[Anonymous No.6099958]

>>6099937
I started doing it for fun, got good, now I get a few pennies for it. Still getting better, but not for the pennies.

[Anonymous No.6099976]

>>6099952
DALLE 4 wil be better than 99.999999999 of people. You must be a 230IQ with assburger syndrom to compete against AI.

[Anonymous No.6099985]

>>6099952
either you're a time traveller or you're talking out of your ass

[Anonymous No.6099987]

>>6099985
fuck, meant for
>>6099976

[Anonymous No.6100006]

>>6099937
Yes you can do it for fun and get good at it. Idk where you are getting that from. Pick a goal (art style, quality of work) and start working toward it. If you can’t get yourself to draw without getting paid for it then obviously drawing isn’t for you. Go find something that isn’t motivated by a paycheck. Art doesn’t even pay that well man.

[Anonymous No.6100010]

>>6099953
this. went to McDonald's for the first time in 3 years and it was full of these retarded kiosks. An older person was struggling with it. I said fuck it and moved on to eat somewhere where i can order with my voice snd I don't need to do their fucking job. Either a cashier takes my order or fuck off

[Anonymous No.6100113]

>>6099696
speaking of gurney, I looked at his twitter earlier and found this highly disturbing

[Anonymous No.6100119]

>>6100113
I thought regression was just a meme.

[Anonymous No.6100138]

ive already accepted its over. my heart goes out to the people who have and are suffering. may you keep it as a hobby and find a new career you find enjoyable. its never too late to learn something new. rip art.

[Anonymous No.6100385]

>>6093872
Good. We can stop the digital and be real again. Make memes not pepes

[Anonymous No.6101549]

>>6093974
what did you use to upscale this

[Anonymous No.6101574]

>>6101549
there is another AI that upscale things

[Anonymous No.6101810]

>>6092974
I disagree with some of points. I see alot of concept artist and BG artists being "replaced". Atleast the talentless hacks like Greg Land and one-trick photobashers if they can't adapt. The smart ones will simply add the AI into their work flow, generating a piece then painting details over it. Worst case scenario is if the whole project is so generic and homogenized that an AI can do all the heavy lifting.

[Anonymous No.6101893]

>>6100113
meh, it's something done on location with dumb materials. i'll only be worried if his studio art suddenly nosedives

[Anonymous No.6102219]

damn I really hope I can get the permanent neetbux otherwise I stand no chance

[Anonymous No.6102665]

Who the fuck is dale2?

[Anonymous No.6102748]

>>6100113
>dat pic
Do you think they had sex afterwards or after the drawing was done? fr no capitulation

[Anonymous No.6102755]

>>6099891
Yeah, expect you are the tongue and ai niggers are ze annus

[Anonymous No.6102799]

>>6095963
>AI has more soul