/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6086057]

>finally acquire skills and understanding of fundamentals
>realize merit in art was always about the ideas and creativity
>everything so far was just learning the basic tools
>never had any ideas or ambitions of my own

[Anonymous No.6086064]

Expand your mind. Read a book for once

[Anonymous No.6086115]

>>6086064
The image that you generate by reading a book is dependent on what you've already seen.

Watch movies

[Anonymous No.6086117]

>>6086057
nah merit in art is awarded to you by the small hatted hand rubbing grabblers if they think they can profit from promoting you, ideas & skills are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.6086139]

>>6086115
This. Also there’s so much in terms of composition that you can pick up from (good) movies, it’s actually insane that I was sleeping on this for so long.

[Anonymous No.6086144]

>>6086115
>>6086139
I disagree with this. What about all those magnificent paintings filled with imagination that existed long, long before movies.

Read and listen to music. Conjure images in your mind. Sketch those ideas as thumbnails and evolve them.

[Anonymous No.6086173]

It's not hard, Relying on already conjured external stimulus like entertainment is a crutch.

Everyone drew from life in the end, reality is the best most can't get that though.

[Anonymous No.6086217]

>>6086057
Now you need to work on your taste. Whatever you're into, movies, manga, music, etc, you need to step out of your comfort zone and analyze different genres, preferably anything made earlier than 1995.

[Anonymous No.6086255]

Shocking amount of you faggots trying to learn to talk but have got nothing to say.

[Anonymous No.6086260]

>>6086057
just draw anime then

[Anonymous No.6086262]

>>6086144
You're an idiot

[Anonymous No.6086263]

>>6086262
Your*

[Anonymous No.6086291]

Just draw some bbloodborne fanart and go from there

[Anonymous No.6086293]

>>6086262
uh actually it's actually 'your' as in 'your an idiot', actually

[Anonymous No.6086297]

you sound angry. why don't you make some art about how mad you are lol
if it's about creativity, then it has to be about expression. something only you can express. the time and feeling you wasted on this mediocre post could've been spent drawing about it.

good luck!

[Anonymous No.6086356]

>>6086057
same. gained the ability to express myself visually only to realize i had nothing inside to express.

[Anonymous No.6086363]

>>6086057
this is the fun part anon, I am a photographer so my realism comes in handy when I want to sketch a cute doggo or summat

use this time to create a more wholistic artistry and develop your compositions and overall major goals as an artist

[Anonymous No.6086366]

>>6086057
>the real making it is releasing a how to draw manual to sell to beginners that are looking for shortcuts

[Anonymous No.6086368]

>>6086064
>>6086115
>>6086144
Just do all of the things.

[Anonymous No.6086369]

>>6086368
if reading books doesn't give you ideas you might be too retarded for art

[Anonymous No.6086376]

>>6086262
*y'0re

[Anonymous No.6086380]

>>6086057
You have to take the schizo pill. Go get your mind fucked up and draw the images your subconscious flashes to you.

[Anonymous No.6086394]

>>6086057
>realize merit in art was always about the ideas and creativity
>never had any ideas or ambitions of my own
this is exactly why you need more ambition than just 'draw porn to make money'. you're not an artist, you're just a guy who draws alot.

[Anonymous No.6086705]

>>6086394
you realize you're not fooling anybody when projecting this hard right?

[Anonymous No.6086708]

>>6086057
>>never had any ideas or ambitions of my own
You're a literal NPC.

[Anonymous No.6086709]

>>6086057
I have a different problem. My imagination is completely fucked, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Like I can fall asleep and see something cool like a fucking horror movie but usually I just don't see anything. I'm not sure why.

[Anonymous No.6086710]

>>6086115
Nah reading is way more powerful for generating unique visual ideas. Your brain just automatically generates them as you read, it's like dreaming while awake.
Just watching movies barely does anything for you visually because your brain doesn't have to generate anything, everything is fed to you.

Drawing thumbnails from a movie to study value or composition or doing color studies is extremely valuable for studying fundamentals. But generating creative visual ideas is the realm of reading because of what it forces your brain to do.

[Anonymous No.6086723]

>>6086710
A child is born and lives in a white room, 100x100 m3.
He is being taught to read, and is given a book.
What would he imagine, while reading about modern day city?

What would medieval Polish peasant imagine, given book about ancient Japan?

You do not generate anything, you are building a picture from what you already saw.
Same with art. There's no creativity, if your visual library is empty.

[Anonymous No.6086727]

>>6086723
>A child is born and lives in a white room, 100x100 m3.
that is not the case with OP you supreme wordcel. even if he hasn't made a conscious effort his mind should be able to fill in the blanks, unless he is another hopeless wordcel like you.

[Anonymous No.6086728]

>>6086727
I continued the analogy with a medieval peasant, and by that you were supposed to realize that modern day human is no different.

[Anonymous No.6086731]

>>6086727
and
>wordcel
You are the one arguing in favor of reading.

[Anonymous No.6086750]

>>6086723
>What would medieval Polish peasant imagine, given book about ancient Japan?
Probably amazingly creative images that no other polish peasant or japanese peasant would generate.

[Anonymous No.6086751]

These are the people who tell you to always “draw from imagination” who have shit art, know nothing about art, quit drawing halfway through their fundie grind and then crab others into going down their path as well.

[Anonymous No.6086756]

>>6086057
you can't possible understand the fundies if you haven't properly applied them so go ahead show us your work

[Anonymous No.6086764]

>>6086751
WHO IS HE TALKING TO

[Anonymous No.6086909]

>>6086750
Probably he would just imagine Poland, but weirder. It's not like he would understand half the things that happen in Japan.

[Anonymous No.6086920]

>>6086064
but aren't books for homos?

[Anonymous No.6087285]

learning "fundamentals" was the worst thing that ever happened to me. I wish I could undo it but its permanently a part of me now and all my drawings look like chris chan trying to draw goku.

[Anonymous No.6087290]

>>6086909
>>6086723
People drawing things they've never seen from description alone is kino.

[Anonymous No.6087306]

>>6087290
>People drawing things they've never seen from description alone is kino.
for real

[Anonymous No.6087381]

>>6086909
Anon i’m sorry to say but you’re an imaginationlet

[Anonymous No.6088411]

>>6086057
"For although he must ever be a child before the influence that moves him, if it is not with the knowledge of the grown man that he takes off his coat and approaches the craft of painting or drawing, he will be poorly equipped to make them a means of conveying to others in adequate form the things he may wish to express. Great things are only done in art when the creative instinct of the artist has a well-organised executive faculty at its disposal."

[Anonymous No.6088485]

>>6086723
>You do not generate anything, you are building a picture from what you already saw.
you are discovering themes, scenarios and stories that you can communicate in visual formats
furthermore, a good story can help you express yourself in ways you couldn't comprehend without the story