/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6054856]

HOOOOOOOOONNNEEEEEEEEEEEYYY

IT'S TIME FOR YOUR CROQUIS / GESTURE / FIGURE STUDY SESSION

[Anonymous No.6054861]

>>6054856
I’ll draw these tomorrow if you post the refs like a normal human and not some collaged whitespace bullshit

[Anonymous No.6054868]

>>6054856
Draw your own coomart faggot, to lazy to even trace a 3D model.
NGMI

[Anonymous No.6054889]

>>6054856
Maybe I will. But not now. I'm fucking busy.

[Anonymous No.6054890]

>>6054889
>I’m busy fucking

[Anonymous No.6054895]

>asian request thread

[Anonymous No.6054933]

>>6054889
but it looks like you're busy posting on an imageboard

[Anonymous No.6054959]

>>6054856

[Anonymous No.6054961]

>>6054856
I hate doing figure studies because the poses tend to be so boring.
I don't want to study using that boring shit. I wanted wild and dramatic poses, like the ones you see in baroque art.

[Anonymous No.6054987]

love tits and fanny me

[Anonymous No.6055153]

>>6054961
That is not a wild and dramatic pose what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.6055386]

>>6054856
You didnt post the refs, these are too small to be of any use

[Anonymous No.6055414]

>>6054961
Many of them don't even show the entire body.
If you really want to get good you better sign up for a life figure drawing session.

[Anonymous No.6055416]

>>6054856
>Asian
I dont understand this "yellow fever"
>inb4 food
>inb4 low test

[Anonymous No.6055438]

>>6054856
Im going to need the sauce for these girls bro...

[Anonymous No.6055440]

I got bored. I'm going try to work in my comic.

[Anonymous No.6055443]

>>6054856
stop looking for others to do the work for you, you lazy bastard

[Anonymous No.6055708]

>>6054987
ooo lovely some pie an gravy an a bit of tits n gash fookin love it me

[Anonymous No.6055710]

>>6055153
>he doesnt know about adlocutio. As expected of /ic/-sama

[Anonymous No.6055732]

>>6054856
took long

[Anonymous No.6055741]

>>6055153
are you blind?

[Anonymous No.6056098]

>>6054856
getting exhausted and the quality is severely dropping so here's half I'll finish up tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6058068]

>>6056098
bleh

[Anonymous No.6059852]

>distortion from waist-thinning filter visible in some of the photos
haha lol

[Anonymous No.6059909]

>>6054856
Eh

[Anonymous No.6060455]

>>6054856
>>6054959
thanks anon, was getting sick of quickposes

[Anonymous No.6060470]

>>6054856
sauce on top left?

[Anonymous No.6060473]

>>6060470
*top right i meant TOP RIGHT

[Anonymous No.6060480]

>>6060473
Don't think it's her (skin is too light and nipples are too low), but reminds me of nonsummerjack. Same kind of costume/pose/schtick as most of her stuff. Also top left is better

[Anonymous No.6060497]

>>6060473
MissWarmJ dancer Mashu cosplay

[Anonymous No.6060502]

>>6060497
That shadow is doing great work making it look the areola appears

[Anonymous No.6060505]

>>6060502
I don't think that's her elbow shadow. You can see areolae in the OP pic.

[Anonymous No.6060511]

>>6060497
Does someone have all her images compiled for download? Her figure and lighting is great for coom art

[Anonymous No.6060896]

[Anonymous No.6060897]

[Anonymous No.6062014]

>>6055440
Based

[Anonymous No.6062018]

>>6054856
Why do people think it's okay to do figure drawings using references with NO FUCKING LEGS!!!!

Drives me fucking crazy, almost as bad as references with multiple sources of light.

[Anonymous No.6062039]

>>6054856
photoshopped doctored images are not good for gestures.

[Anonymous No.6062591]

>>6054856
Will finish up later, gotta watch better call Saul

[Anonymous No.6062634]

>>6054856
What do you plan on getting out of figure studies of heavily photoshopped lewd asian girls

[Anonymous No.6062805]

>>6062039
>>6062634
they're doctored to meet a certain ideal
why are you crabbing anyways?

[Anonymous No.6062982]

>>6062591
i really like the way you draw faces here. they're cute while also being simplified enough to draw quickly, and convey the emotion.

[Anonymous No.6062988]

>>6062591
Blog?

[Anonymous No.6063516]

>>6062591
You've got some nice shapes

[Anonymous No.6064713]

>>6062591
waiting for more...

[Anonymous No.6064856]

>>6055440
(Not OP)
Here bro I made one for you

[Anonymous No.6064904]

>>6062634
hey, at least one of them is a heavily photoshopped lewd asian boy in case you thought OP was only figuratively a fag

[Anonymous No.6064916]

will this really help me? It feels like these poses are all the same technically. Just rotated or the arms are up. I feel nothing when I see these whores posting for the camera. I want to draw interesting things.

[Anonymous No.6064922]

Damn, westoid goblinas are s e e t h i n g ITT.

[Anonymous No.6064953]

>>6054856
heres your draweings bro

[Anonymous No.6064992]

>>6060497
""dancer"" Mashu

[Anonymous No.6065091]

>>6064922
What's even the context of this? Did she win the prettiest girl award?

[Anonymous No.6065097]

>>6054959
all of these are extremely photoshopped

[Anonymous No.6065106]

>>6065091
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/sabina-altynbekova

[Anonymous No.6065158]

>>6054856
Welp

[Anonymous No.6065314]

>>6064856
not the guy you posted for, but thanks
felt like slapping male bodies on female frames for these

[Anonymous No.6065351]

>>6064953
lel

[Anonymous No.6065352]

>>6065314
Damn anon I really like your simplified forms. What books did you study?

[Anonymous No.6065410]

>>6065314
Love it, based

[Anonymous No.6066137]

i will not draw chinks

[Anonymous No.6066148]

>>6066137
that's why your art is full of ugly manwomen

[Anonymous No.6066233]

>>6062591
Finally had a chance to draw today after being trapped in a cafe for 12 hrs yesterday, and today 9 hrs of chores and 3 hrs of trying to buy a dryer

>>6062982
I stole them from that chunky thicc render guy beklelviev or whatever. I dont know why, but vertical eye slits work WAYYY better than horizontal brow lines or even circles. No idea what that magic is..

>>6062988
Blog here https://twitter.com/tableguyart

>>6063516
Thanks

>>6064713
Hopefully i have time to draw tomorrow, and I’ll do the rest in the thread. These were surprisingly fun

[Anonymous No.6066283]

>>6066233
oh whoa wait you're the snot fetish guy? really? your art never looked like that on dad. well good for you, i love your style in these gestures.

[Anonymous No.6066427]

>>6065352
thanks mate
its a scuffed, half-remembered mishmash of stickmen drawing, Hampton's 'Figure Drawing: Design and Invention' and Zarin's 'Anatomy for Sculptors' (picrel, there's much more stuff in the books)

[Anonymous No.6066438]

Good set. Splitting mine into 2 because OG file is 6MB.

1/2

[Anonymous No.6066440]

>>6066438
2/2

[Anonymous No.6066451]

>>6066438
>>6066440
damn, you went hard on these

[Anonymous No.6066471]

>>6066438
how to draw like this ?

[Anonymous No.6066475]

Here's mine

[Anonymous No.6066482]

I took some liberties.

[Anonymous No.6066490]

>>6066471
vilppu

[Anonymous No.6066492]

>>6066482
Extremely based

>>6066475
Can you post the full pic of the girl with the boxing bag?

[Anonymous No.6066494]

>>6066440
You really fucked the perspective on 2nd but nailed it on the 3rd

[Anonymous No.6066499]

>>6066451
Getting it right is the most important part to learn effectively.

>>6066471
Get a solid grasp on the fundamentals, effectively study and draw everyday for hours on end, and have a critical eye to spot issues to rectify and fix for your next studies.

>>6066494
True that. My current weakness at the moment is visualizing forms when the camera is down pointing up. I'll do better next time to make sure I fix my shortcomings. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6066501]

>>6066499
Low angles are hard for me too. I'm not sure why it's so much different than high angles but they really fuck me. Good luck improving anon!

[Anonymous No.6066504]

>>6066501
I like to attribute it on the lack of visual library we have in our head in looking up at people. Looking front or down is pretty common for our day-to-day lives whilst looking straight up at someone from below is super rare.

I don't even remember when the last time I had to look at someone from that angle. So yeah, definitely just need to draw and study more from that angle. Thanks mate, you too!

[Anonymous No.6066508]

>>6066504
Haha yes this is especially true for me since I'm tall so I'm mostly looking down on people or just looking at them straight. Gonna need to hire someone to just stand over me all day while I draw them

[Anonymous No.6066529]

>>6054856
Sauce on bottom right?

[Anonymous No.6066551]

>>6054856
could I ask for the full res images or would that be considered cheating?

[Anonymous No.6066679]

>>6066427
Thanks for the insight, anon. It really feels like I needed something like this.

[Anonymous No.6066707]

>>6066529
@aNo2mass

[Anonymous No.6066978]

>>6066482
got a blog?

[Anonymous No.6067422]

>>6066707
thanks

[Anonymous No.6067500]

>>6054961
then why dont you get a friend to let you take pictures of them in the poses you want?

[Anonymous No.6067511]

>>6067500
Mom doesn’t like it when I photograph dad in lewd poses

[Anonymous No.6067633]

>>6066492

[Anonymous No.6067700]

>>6054959
I was drawing this and when i got the 2nd line i realized that these were porn. Then wife saw the references and was like THATS TOTALLY PORN I TOLD YTOU IT WAS PORN

So yeah.. you tricked me into drawing porn

>>6066283
Thanks buddy

[Anonymous No.6067752]

>>6067700
>So yeah.. you tricked me into drawing porn
Don't you draw porn like, 70% of the time anyways?

[Anonymous No.6067791]

>>6067700
nice as always table.

gave myself 5 mins for each otherwise i'd be doing it all day.

[Anonymous No.6067868]

>>6067791
you drew these in 5min each????

[Anonymous No.6067912]

>>6060511
https://mitaku.net/ero-cosplay/misswarmj-mashu-kyrielight-dancer/
Give it a shot, can't guarantee it's virus free.

[Anonymous No.6068092]

>>6060511
It's on sadpanda.

[Anonymous No.6068133]

[Anonymous No.6069844]

okay OKAY. I do one as well...

[Anonymous No.6072503]

>>6069844

[Anonymous No.6072587]

movin on to another set. just did these in mspaint, trying to clean up my lines

[Anonymous No.6072940]

>>6072587
>>6069844
why bother tracing?

[Anonymous No.6073458]

>>6066475

>>6072503
Damn you pushed some poses pretty hard, love it

[Anonymous No.6073889]

>>6072940
i didn't? i literally drew next to the pictures what u mean

[Anonymous No.6074045]

Here's mine, as usual a weird mix betwen "I should go back and fix this" and "fuck this".

[Anonymous No.6074507]

>>6074045
These aren't gestures. Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.6074660]

>>6074507
>refuses to elaborate further

what a goddamn alpha

[Anonymous No.6074903]

>>6067700
Blog? Or are you tg?

[Anonymous No.6076139]

>>6066475
Bottom left is the hardest. I should've started with a floor

[Anonymous No.6076585]

>>6066475
man

[Anonymous No.6077437]

>>6076585
i like your feet, and construction

[Anonymous No.6077545]

>>6077437
genuinely not sure if sarcasm because I think the feet are the worst looking parts of my drawings
don't really do proper construction either

[Anonymous No.6077549]

>>6077545
i'm a footfag and i think yours look good, for a gesture/sketch. i think the most important thing is showing them as having proper form and you do that. a lot of people just sort of symbol draw them because they're sort of hard to conceptualize.

[Anonymous No.6077758]

>>6077549
>footfag
t-thanks I guess
true that feet are hard to draw, the bottom part looks so fucking weird

[Anonymous No.6077780]

>>6054856
the first image on the left would make for a good ref for a shibuya rin fanart

[Anonymous No.6078325]

>>6077780
No one's stopping you, do it and post it here.

[Anonymous No.6080771]

>>6067633

Can you critic my gesture please

[Anonymous No.6080974]

>>6080771
Her wrist is tearing bro

[Anonymous No.6083126]

>>6054856
Bumping since I'll do this now. Don't 404 on me.

[Anonymous No.6084077]

>>6054856
My attempt, first post, been studying drawing for 6 months now

[Anonymous No.6084761]

>>6080771
I think you made the ribs a bit too small (they also lacked structure). There was flow without structure, I think is the best way I can put it. It is somewhat lacking in perspective as well.
I would recommend you draw the full figure instead of just a part of it, it can be pretty hard, and frustrating, but the more you do it, the better you get.

[Anonymous No.6084763]

[Anonymous No.6084766]

>>6084763
hope you all like my coomer refs, I tried to find some with perspective this time.

[Anonymous No.6084976]

I don't understand gesture, so you are supposed to plot the line of action, but the line of action is the average of the form? As in not the edge of the skin or clothes? Every line has to be a C S or I and you can't have repetition but what about when the upper and lower arm bend in the same motion?
Should I just trace over photos to get a feel for it and then go back to normal?

[Anonymous No.6085199]

>>6084976
1/3
Your question is valid, but probably not worth for you to overanalyse! There is certainly no one way to do it but many different interesting approaches which make certain goals with drawing easier than others. My honest recommendation is to just try them when you find them, keep what is fun for you to do or is leading to good results, and shovel the rest to the back of your mind. Once in a while revisit the stuff you put away since with growing ability you can pull new information from the same concepts.

I personally think of gesture as being the most abstract (sometimes rough) representation of both - positioning and movement in space - while still following some sort of repeatable structure in order for you not having to reinvent the process every time and thus maximizing readability while minimizing effort.
I could easily be talking a lot of bs here, but my take is, that a good gesture drawing is the most effective way to evoke a reaction of your sub-/unconcious (idrk I have limited knowledge about each of the brain-sciences). Think of it kind of similar to the reduction of a face to a smiley face / emoji type of representation. It doesnt depict a specific persons likeness but rather an action that each face could be making. It is more about an act than the acting individual itself. It is that essence that you want to grasp. There is not one way to get there.

[Anonymous No.6085201]

>>6084976
>>6085199
2/3
Stick figure like under sketches seem to be beneficial for drawing with anatomical correctness since even from the beginning you put emphasis on bones and proportions. Tubes and beans probably enhance your intuition for heft and flexibility, therefore dynamics. The body is not a structurelss, wiggly blob, but also not a rock-solid pillar. It certainly is inbetween and you can decide what it is you want to emphasize on. This of course is true for whole drawings and different aspects within one.
The human body consists of many muscular chains which work together in each movement. You bending a knee requires action in calf, upper leg, pelvis region and abdomen (arguably even a lot higher than that) - eventho it looks like only a knee is bending, but the whole body is doing stuffs!
There is certainly a huge array of vectors contributing to each movement, keeping muscles together, providing counter tension and directions. Therefore an analogy like the well known force-technique make sense even from a physiology pov.
All these approaches make sense, but in the end it is about how the indicators on the page cascade into associations that lead to you drawing a cohesive piece that leaves an impression with the audience.

[Anonymous No.6085203]

>>6084976
>>6085199
>>6085201
3/3
My last point I want to make: Consider the circumstances in which the idea of gesture drawing emerged and evolved: trad art.
When pm each stroke is permanent, it is a safety measure to construct since a mistake could ruin the whole piece and nullify all your investment.
- game over. - start again.
Steps like gesture drawing are check points - effortless to reach stages at which you can evaluate, correct or restart without loosing much of your time, focus or patience. They also provide handles for your brain to hold the paper and construct more and more sense. Did you reach that point with a skeletal structure or a force-approach? - doesnt really matter since they can both lead to the same outcome! The main differences depend on you, your mindset and your personal tendencies. And I think I mean this in a less tangible way: You can't really know what works for you but try it. Keep in mind that a gesture drawing is a throw away product. It is either being overdrawn or tossed completely. There are many interesting ways to do it and each is worth consideration for sure. But it doesnt mean they work for you. Eventho it is fair to assume for a child to be right handed, some simply are not! Concepts and broadly used ideas often work but in the end it is all about you finding a way to understand what you observe. The majority of that route consists of having the exact thoughts and questions that you presented.

Tldr: none of this matters too much. 2 dots can be enough for you to imagine the rest of the figure. just consider the ideas of people who really know the craft but then do and try what you feel like. Dont fall for the fallacy of art only being a straight path. There is not much at risk and you might be able to find what noone has ever thought of (tho arguably not very likely). In case of more questions: read the effing sticky

[Anonymous No.6086209]

>>6066475
Good set

[Anonymous No.6086355]

>>6086209
>>6066438
These are really good. Do you guys use construction for these? I always here conflicting answers on that. Some people say if I don't use construction I won't learn anything from the drawings, others say construction is only useful when drawing from imagination.

[Anonymous No.6086400]

>>6086355
> construction is only useful when drawing from imagination.
Yea this. I dont use construction. It takes too long. All the information is already in the drawing in front of you. Not to say that it wouldn’t help, but usually for figure drawing I go for speed over quality. Use negative space to check your shapes, and find a good rhythm for making long lines for the arms, legs and parts of the torso.

Pretty much all the lines that I made are shown, i only erased a couple spots where I messed up some of the placements >>6086209. Maybe there is some construction, maybe there isn’t. Sometimes I like drawing extra lines if the forms aren’t clear. It’s kind of like a nervous habit.

[Anonymous No.6089109]

how long do you guys usually spend per figure?

[Anonymous No.6089131]

>>6089109
Maybe like 5min, no more than 10 for sure

I can’t believe this thread is still up

[Anonymous No.6089222]

>this reference

KEK, that's porn.

[Anonymous No.6089360]

>>6089109
It depends. I work really slow, especially when I want to get anatomy right, I always try to draw all the muscles I know and all that stuff.

[Anonymous No.6089472]

>>6072503
hoooly shit as a noob that 2nd row 2nd image breakdown was great for me to see. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6089475]

>>6060455
>>6058068
>>6060896
>>6062591
guys these are really good!

[Anonymous No.6090478]

>>6089472
ey so happy it was of any help! I was hoping for it to be *somewhat* interesting to at least *someone* out there, which is why I decided leaving it in.

thanks so much for letting me know, mate! - it is very reassuring and I appreciate you a lot for doing so!

[Anonymous No.6090558]

>>6086209
I really like your figures, what did you use to learn gesture?

[Anonymous No.6090699]

>>6090558
I copied a lot of gainax / trigger animation frames when i started drawing. I can’t stand vilppu. I dont know why everyone praises him so much. His teachings make me not want to draw.

But i do a lot of figure drawing. This stack is all figure drawing from this year except for the last level.

[Anonymous No.6090853]

>>6090699
>gainax / trigger animation frames
i see, where can i get those?

[Anonymous No.6091014]

>>6090853
I literally paused the show took a screenshot and drew the frame like 400 times

[Anonymous No.6091119]

>>6090699
tableguy?

[Anonymous No.6091130]

>>6090699
My favorite /ic/ artist does not like Vilppu?

Based.

[Anonymous No.6092641]

>>6065097
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.6092653]

why does the first 30 second timer website have to have an ear piercing screech
>scroll down mid mouse stroke = mrs.legs

[Anonymous No.6092887]

Any tips on croquis? I find it difficult to convey depth and get proportions right in such a short amount of time.

[Anonymous No.6092894]

>>6054856
this should be a recurring general

[Anonymous No.6092898]

>>6086209
this makes me so sad because you're genuinely an amazing artist when you don't act like a child and draw the most unappealing shit imaginable to spite your make-believe boogeymen

[Anonymous No.6092904]

>>6092898
>this makes me so sad
Maybe just focus on yourself

[Anonymous No.6093043]

Only had time for a quick one, will try to go back for the rest during the week

[Anonymous No.6093082]

>>6054856
Why bother? just load this into AI and it will generate thousand of drawings in any style you want.

[Anonymous No.6093733]

[Anonymous No.6096944]

>>6054856
HOLY MOLY THAT GIRL IN THE BOTTOM MIDDLE MY FUCKING COCK AND HEART
一目惚れ

[Anonymous No.6097204]

here my half, will do the other half tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6098180]

>>6097204
Here's the other half guys.

[Anonymous No.6099166]

>>6055741
>dude sitting on a rock
>dynamic
No but apparently you are