/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Sexual Alternative Art / Styli(...) No.5233146]

Previous thread: >>5213632

>What is /SALT/?

If you're looking for a place to post all sexual works, from pinups with exaggerated proportions to pornography, then this is the right general for you. Both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully here.

>Rules & Guidelines

(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others.
(2) Please resize your images below 1000x1000 before posting.
(3) Share your knowledge and
(4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique.
5) Remember all GB3 related content such as lolicon, shotacon, furry pornography, furry and bestiality are banned on ALL boards, including red boards, except /b and /trash.

Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.

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FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8

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>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
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References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

[Anonymous No.5233150]

i can't even make a new thread properly

[Anonymous No.5233268]

first lel

[Anonymous No.5233276]

nobody is going to know what thread this is you dolt

[Anonymous No.5233319]

>>5233276
I'm gonna remake this with a proper OP.

[Anonymous No.5233335]

[Anonymous No.5233348]

[Anonymous No.5233363]

>>5232939
>Pussy sticking out like 6 inches into the legs
She got a fleshlight crammed up her real one that is slipping out?

[Anonymous No.5233374]

>>5233348
That redraw is a significant improvement.

Feel like both faces/heads are still lacking depth

[Anonymous No.5233391]

>>5233374
thanks, i was looking through my old art and saw a bunch i thought i could do better on so i figured i'd do some practice, do you have any suggestions for the faces?

[Anonymous No.5233424]

>>5233348
Bro I hate the fetish stuff you are into but you are the most gmi artist on this board. Keep up the grind man, much respect

[Anonymous No.5233452]

>>5233348
youve really improved keep going!

[Anonymous No.5233463]

>>5233391
Try finding some photos of faces from those angles and deconstruct them. Something just feels off to me but I'm shit myself so I can't pinpoint or trace for you.

The male's eyes are wrappping round quite right and the females head seems more in profile than it should be - possibly with the stylised nose.

Keep it up tho looks sick.

[Anonymous No.5233478]

>>5233424
i appreciate the respect, i know my content isn't for everyone but who would i be if i didn't draw what i wanted to
>>5233452
thanks, i'm trying, i know i go slow but progress is progress
>>5233463
yeah skip's (the boy on the ground) eyes and face were kinda giving me trouble and those were the best i could come up with at 3 in the morning, i'll prolly try to grind out a few alternate angles for a page of faces later and see if i can do better

[Anonymous No.5234129]

Please critique

[Anonymous No.5234157]

>>5233424
>>5233463

im convinced that you are praising yourself as other anons.

you haven't improved that much. its just the same mistakes just refined around the edges.
it's like the redraw every year challenges but its a copy of the same thing last time for each year.

take some risks, dude. follow some basic art assignments. read the fucking sticky, i don't know. do SOMETHING.

[Anonymous No.5234160]

>>5234157
:/ did it again
sorry i meant to tag >>5233452
instead.

[Anonymous No.5234197]

broken big titty monsters

[Anonymous No.5234903]

SERIOUSLY? NOBODY PISTED HERE FOR LIKE 10 HOURS?? I get /ic/ is slow but come the fuck on. I just want a critique god damn

[Anonymous No.5234905]

>>5234903
It's shit.
>>5234197

[Anonymous No.5234937]

>>5234905
Wow nice, i think that'll be very helpful to whoever drew that.

[Anonymous No.5234998]

[Anonymous No.5235064]

yeah

[Anonymous No.5235268]

Rough sketch of my baphomet nun. I have no idea of what to add, maybe a couple more tentacles or a curtain around the window in the finished version.
I was thinking of trying to paint with a more realistic approach of colors and values like in this rough sketch, but I'm too chickenshit for that so I'm probably going for cellshaded as usual for the final.

[Anonymous No.5235584]

>>5234998
It doesn’t really feel like a comic if you’re just doing a bunch of single panel pages. Just looks like an image set. Pretty boring desu. You’re not taking advantage of how great comics can be.

[Anonymous No.5235608]

Now what fucking thread do I use?

[Anonymous No.5235616]

>>5235584
should have specified that these were just thumbs for poses and not an actual comic

[Anonymous No.5235674]

this angle is hard

[Anonymous No.5235702]

>>5235608
beg thread

[Anonymous No.5235775]

>>5235608
a lot of small changes that i would make:

head slighly smaller
stronger shadow under the eyebrows for 3d effect
neck slighly thicker
rounding of the left shoulder
curving the dress around the right shoulder
lowering the breasts
mouth correction in perspective
shortening the arm in perspective
reposition of the tentacles in perspective
making the tentacles bigger on arms to emphasise the perspective
lowering the left knee

[Anonymous No.5235779]

>>5235775
i forgot: rounding the hips in perspective

[Anonymous No.5235783]

>>5235779
i also forgot: making the forehead bigger

[Anonymous No.5235792]

>>5235783
and again i forgot: the gripping of the tentacle around the arm should also be in perspective

[Anonymous No.5235862]

>>5235608
>>5235702
>>5235775


the monsters are really fucking bizarre and uncomfortable, not my thing. but i really like how they are rendered. the gelatin/silicone material is fun

says ngmi in the corner but, i think youre gonna make it

it seems like the only way to get a good fucking critique on these threads is to make actually decent art and then get called shit for it

[Anonymous No.5236350]

>>5235268
Current progress, I think I'll go with a mix of halftones and shading. Idk if it will work.

[Anonymous No.5236555]

>>5235616
Nah, you shouldn't have. That's just a dumb crab that has nothing better to do than be a crab.

>>5234998
Good stuff, as always.

[Anonymous No.5236575]

>>5235674
Looks really good already. Blog?
Also, what's that syringe supposed to be? Enema?

[Anonymous No.5236614]

can i get feedback on >>5233150

[Anonymous No.5236627]

>>5236614
Why? You seem to have everything figured out. Why would you want feedback from your inferiors?

[Anonymous No.5236654]

>>5235608
I like it. The monster looking her in the face might need to be slightly more to the left. I couldn't immediately tell if they were face to face or not. You got any more?

[Anonymous No.5236735]

>>5236627
>You seem to have everything figured out.
yeah man i totally have, haven't i, huh

[Anonymous No.5236994]

>>5236735
Hey man, I'm sorry you feel distressed. I don't know if a scrub like me is in any position to give you feedback, but if I had to say anything, I don't like how the tit to the right feels artifically uplifted in the air compared to tit to the left.

[Anonymous No.5237451]

>>5233150
>>5236614
Yeah, few things.
1. Left breast doesn't appear to be resting against the ribcage, instead appears to be hovering in front of it. Change the line where it connects.
2. Right arm is looooooong.
3. Bellybutton is sitting v. low.

[Anonymous No.5237465]

>>5233150
>>5236735
>>5236614
If you can't see the problems in your work, let me point them out to you. The shadow across her face pertains to what, the bridge on her nose? Are we then to assume that the light source coming across her face is so intense that it casts a long shadow like that? It probably doesn't, seeing as how you have faded shading starting at the top right part of her right cheek. Where are the cast shadows of her hair on her left face? Doesn't make sense.
The designs on the right picture upwards from her tits don't convey any roundness whatsoever, you just drew them on there for the sake of them being designs. The same goes for the designs on the left forearm's glove. Your shadows across the tits on the picture to the left don't make any sense either given the intensity of the nose bridge shadow; why is there a hard shadow edge underneath the picture frame that ROUNDS up and above the right tit like that?
The biggest mistake you have is on the right arm. Put side by side to match the length with the arm on the left, that picture frame should be on a much higher degree of tilt than you portray (top left corner more downward), making that pose look stiff. Your clothing near the crotch region suffers that one-dimentional look to it; does it extend outward with the right hip to make it look flat or, are we supposed to use our imagination and pretend it curves down? The face looks slanted to the left, judging by the cranial position in tandem with the hairline. She either has a huge forehead or she's had a stroke.One tit sags and the other's perky; they either both sag or they're both implants, you can;t have both worlds.
And there's also that red thumb or a hair sticking out over the rest of the pinkish hair. The highlights on the hair don't match the intensity of the light source in accordance to the nose bridge shadow making the hair fall dull. In fact, your shadows are off everywhere—the jewelry clasps, the star, the red jewel, even the frame.

[Anonymous No.5237524]

>>5236994
>>5237451
>>5237465
thanks for replies
i guess i went too lazy on tits and arms, maybe i will be more conscious about it and anatomy in general (well… probably not)
not sure if agree on all remarks about lights/shadows, almost every stylized drawing simplifies lighting it in favor of readable composition and shapes

[Anonymous No.5237549]

>>5237524
>i guess i went too lazy on tits and arms, maybe i will be more conscious about it and anatomy in general (well… probably not)
Are you being sarcastic?
>not sure if agree on all remarks about lights/shadows, almost every stylized drawing simplifies lighting it in favor of readable composition and shapes
You may not agree with them, but it's the truth. That nose bridge shadow is a tell tale sign that you need work.

[Anonymous No.5237568]

>>5237524
There are more problems that show up when you flip the drawing. Noe she really looks like she had a stroke and your shadows are still off.

[Anonymous No.5237616]

>>5236575
thanks anon, i dont have an active blog
its a cum tube syringe with this thing
https://bad-dragon.com/products/nova

[Anonymous No.5238223]

[Anonymous No.5238322]

>>5238223
Well, at least you can say you tried to draw Urd.

[Anonymous No.5238649]

>>5235608
dope.. good job anon!

you could push the pose's gesture more so the figure doesn;t feel as stiff and solid, like pulling the right arm back more, the stretch of clothing, her top pulling down

[Anonymous No.5238995]

Li’l Jimmy managed to rescue his teacher, Miss Santiago, from the school bully, Chadd. Jimmy tried not to notice she’d been partially stripped. “Oh, thank goodness you got to me in time, Jimmy!” Miss Santiago said. “If you’d taken much longer, I’m sure Chadd would have raped me!”

[Anonymous No.5239001]

>>5238995
Li’l Virgin managed to rescue his teacher, Miss Girlfriend, from the school bully, Chad. Virgin tried not to notice she’d been partially stripped. “Oh, thank goodness you got to me in time, Virgin!” Miss Girlfriend said. “If you’d taken much longer, I’m sure Chad would have raped me!”

[Anonymous No.5239006]

Trying to get back into coom art again, any feedback on this? Does it look appealing?

[Anonymous No.5239007]

>>5239006

[Anonymous No.5239051]

>>5239006
>>5239007
What's with her dickhead?

[Anonymous No.5239069]

>>5239001
I'm sorry. sadly it's too late for me to delete my post. I shall not sully this thread with my unworthy scribblings again,

[Anonymous No.5239071]

Copy

[Anonymous No.5239158]

>>5235064
a lot of small anatomical and perspective errors. this is how i would change it.

[Anonymous No.5239159]

[Anonymous No.5239162]

>>5238995
not bad. quite unique style

[Anonymous No.5239165]

>>5239159
/beg/ shall be your home

[Anonymous No.5239176]

>>5239165
It's better than /beg. Definitely not /int though.

[Anonymous No.5239196]

How do I make it coomable

[Anonymous No.5239203]

>>5239196

[Anonymous No.5239217]

>>5239196
Peena.

[Anonymous No.5239225]

>>5239159

[Anonymous No.5239268]

>>5239162
Isn't "style" just another word for "lacks skill"?

[Anonymous No.5239295]

>>5233348
How did you get *worse* at drawing abs/pecs?

[Anonymous No.5239298]

>>5239268
that would be "muh style"

[Anonymous No.5239308]

I think I've accidentally put her butthole where her vag would be. Male genitalia is hard :')

[Anonymous No.5239315]

>>5239308
that honestly look like she has both cock and vag and you can pretend the a hole is hidden from view, or literally click and drag the omnihole to the right. awesome work again, I would push the values a little if you're not done with it yet just cause it looks a little faded. Im thinking of jumping on the pokewagon too for some followers

[Anonymous No.5239321]

>>5239176
How do i get to /int/?
>>5239225
thanks!

[Anonymous No.5239335]

>>5239321
>How do i get to /int/?

[Anonymous No.5239342]

>>5239335
What should i practice the most? i am currently reading hampton

[Anonymous No.5239357]

>>5239342
For starters, varying your line weight instead of relying solely on your shading to give depth will benefit you greatly as well as practicing more dynamic lighting.
Your hands need a bit of work, too.

[Anonymous No.5239359]

>>5239159
the only big noticeably offense is the hair.
To me, it looks like when you put the hair-piece on a lego figure and it gets stuck halfway.

If you still have the hair-layer separately, then that's an easy fix.

[Anonymous No.5239373]

>>5239357
>>5239359
thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.5239406]

crit me on the anatomy and anything else before I continue
the booba will be eventually be bound by a tight fitting shirt, hence the anti gravity

[Anonymous No.5239425]

>>5239406
took 2 mins to look away from this and come back to realise it looks like she's lifting her leg up to poot

[Anonymous No.5239511]

>>5233276
good job brian!

[Anonymous No.5239597]

>>5235608
i like this. not sexually but it feels like a weird dreamworld

would perhaps be improved by having more dark areas making it more dynamic. and the shading on the human character looks quite bad and dull compared the rest

[Anonymous No.5239641]

>>5238223
Nice attempt at drawing Urd, anon. It's pleasant to see artists today try to keep the old school anime style alive while adding a little bit of their own flavor to the mix. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.5239655]

>>5239069
Don't be so hard on yourself, anon. That cartoon style is still very much appreciated despite the industry taking such a nose dive in recent months, plus the story behind it adds context and character to the work. Poor hero probably has no clue what to do, now that he's saved Ms. Santiago. The rape was a little too much, maybe you can try to pull back on that a little bit unless you want the Twitter Mob barking at you? Just a thought. You should keep drawing regardless, and know that some people will poke fun at your work, but smile and draw some more. It's your passion, don't give up on it, just be careful with the wording.

[Anonymous No.5239664]

>>5239007
It's kind of appealing, but you have the cum shot wrong and the penis looks too cartoony? If that's what you were going for, then you nailed it but, maybe try making the penis a little more believable. Please work on your hands too, they're a little distracting and since you're starting out drawing porn art again, maybe this is a good time for you to learn to draw them better? Good luck with your art, though!

[Anonymous No.5239767]

>>5239315
Yeah, I think I'll just end up dragging the lines down a bit. Shame because I wanted more visible length on the peen and I'm going to lose some now.

I've set the colour folder to a lower opacity so the lines were more visible for critique, so it looks super washed out, but it's a lot more vibrant normally. Thanks for your help!

[Anonymous No.5239768]

What the hell happened to the last thread

[Anonymous No.5239783]

>>5239768
So it wasn't my imagination that one got nuked?

[Anonymous No.5239789]

>>5239768
>No spiderwebs coming out of tits
I can’t coom to this

[Anonymous No.5239795]

>>5239768
Blog?

[Anonymous No.5239837]

>>5239789
YOU WILL COOM AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

[Anonymous No.5239848]

My work could use some good critique, thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.5239857]

>>5233146
i feel like i made gendo too long

[Anonymous No.5239919]

>>5239768
Gimme ur fucking blog and nobody gets hurts.

[Anonymous No.5239994]

>>5239857
havent laughed like this in a while, kudos anon :P

[Anonymous No.5240065]

If there are any beginners on here who would like some help with their work and don't mind me being super rusty at mine, I'd love to help in any way I can. I could sure use the practice.

[Anonymous No.5240115]

>>5239783
Nop, got deleted for some godforsaken reason
>>5239789
It could be milk, but it could also be silk
>>5239795
>>5239919
https://twitter.com/hayabusart

[Anonymous No.5240561]

ive stared at this for too long I need another pair of eyes on this; is the head too big? Is the pose natural? is it boring? its probably the best thing I've made so far but so many parts look off. the hands need work, the shirt doesn't look tight and the folds are random. any tips/pointers appreciated

[Anonymous No.5240570]

>>5240561
im a board tourist but this looks really good! head is not too big but i guess out of the questions you asked, the pose is normal but somewhat boring. also Booba

[Anonymous No.5240860]

Giving up on this one. Anybody ever feel like drawing stupid coom shit makes them even more pathetic?
Maybe I’m just depressed.

[Anonymous No.5240906]

>>5240860
For comparison, here’s how a similar subject turned out back in mid-July. HOW DO I IMPROVE HOW DO I GET TALENT IN SIX MONTHS OR HAVE I WASTED MY LIFE (sorry, that schizo is rubbing off on me.)

[Anonymous No.5240936]

>>5240860
>>5240906
Hey anon, I'm this anon>>5240065 >>5239848
hi, nice to meet you. I think you're being a little too hard on yourself. Take a break from that subject matter (nerd saves woman from bully), and try drawing something different. You might be experiencing fatigue, because you can only draw so much of the same subject matter before you start to notice how redundant it gets. Try a pin up of Ms. Santaigo, just her with no one else. Something simple. Go back to basics. Hey, if you even want to, I'll draw something along with you, for fun. Let's get you out of that ugly place, what do you say? And, to show it's me, here's a drawing on my same drawing table.

[Anonymous No.5241279]

>>5240936
I know you copy other artist's stuff, or at least you are very influenced, but you manage to capture the old school "soul". Really appealing. GG.

[Anonymous No.5241322]

[Anonymous No.5241841]

>>5240860
>>5240906
long-time lurker here.
I hate to see you down like that, man.
I always really enjoy looking at your art. You draw really appealing women and clearly have your own style.
I also like how your stuff is always the least degenerate in the thread.
I don't like futa. In fact I think most normal people don't, so it's always nice to see some art by a guy who hasn't let the internet rot his brain.

You've come a long way, bro.
Just maybe try and move past the sketch phase a little more.
I'm looking forward to your next one, Keep drawing :)

[Anonymous No.5241854]

>>5241841
>most normal people don't like futa
>is literally complimenting pedo shit in the same post

[Anonymous No.5241891]

>>5241854
Implied. But it doesn’t show anything. In fact, for posting in the coomer threads this guy’s work has been weirdly chaste.
I bet he’s retarded.

[Anonymous No.5241919]

>>5241854
>men with tits are a-ok
>some boy standing next to a semi-naked woman is now pedo shit
>he doesn't know how soon males start to fantasize about sex
those puberty blockers hit really hard eh?

[Anonymous No.5241967]

>>5234129
At this stage, I think you should focus on cleaning up your linework and making it more fluid.

[Anonymous No.5241997]

>>5234129
So I know you're making this shit for coomers who have no sense of either male or female reproductive anatomy, but there is a barrier to the womb known as the cervix. You cannot penetrate the cervix without extreme force, and in fact the only way babies are able to pass through them is through the process of dilation (extremely painful). Every time I see art disregarding the cervix, I squeeze my thighs together a little tighter and cringe.

tl;dr, if you're going to play around with cutaways, please keep a basic sense of anatomical accuracy.

[Anonymous No.5242036]

>>5241279
Hi, thanks for your thought, I appreciate that. I think all of us at one time in our lives have been heavily influenced by someone, and it's nice to be able to emulate your inspiration and think, wow, I can draw like my favorite artist now, that's pretty neat!

[Anonymous No.5242050]

>>5241322
This isn't what mankind was destined for.

[Anonymous No.5242090]

>>5240570
thank you, I'm gonna try to work on more challenging poses next. looking back at the two tone greyscale version hurts after I wrecked it with the rendering

[Anonymous No.5242126]

>>5241997
next thing you say is that women don't roll their eyes back and stick their tongue out during orgasm

[Anonymous No.5242128]

>>5234129
I'm not sure if you're still around anon, but good points first. It's simple cartoon. It involves a fetish that's extremely common in Japanese hentai (Womb penetration), and for it's intended purpose, it's fantasy, and you can certainly get away with drawing that. But try to keep simple things like anatomy in mind, how the bodies are placed, maybe working on the fingers and the toes? Be sure to keep length in mind, too. Those arms on the guy are a bit too long, even by cartoon standards. Maybe you can work on facial expressions a bit too, a more cartoon choke look to his face might have been more appropriate? That's if you're still around, hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.5242163]

>>5242090
When using lines for the breasts its better to make a really thin line so it looks like the breasts are pushing together. Rather than doing no line at all

instant boober appeal

[Anonymous No.5242188]

>>5241919
Are you trying to justify pedophilia by saying futa bad? Where is the fucking logic?

[Anonymous No.5242207]

>>5236735
The right hand is all fucked up. Fix it.

[Anonymous No.5242240]

>>5241841
>>5240936
Thank you for the encouragement, kind anons. My frustration is that I WANT to draw other things. I wrote a book about elves and goblins last year that I’d like to illustrate. But the silly coom shit comes (heh) much easier to me.

[Anonymous No.5242244]

>>5242188
I'm doing neither, autismo. Get your brain checked.

[Anonymous No.5242289]

>>5241854
no, I don't like pedophila.
I don't see how you'd get that.
But you're probably the type of guy to say that futa is somehow more straight than normal sex, so I'm not suprised.

[Anonymous No.5242298]

>>5242289
But I never said anything remotely close? I just pointed out the irony of a guy bashing futa as something and complementing pedo drawing in the same post?

[Anonymous No.5242313]

Continuation of work on
>>5232362
I know I'm not really creating anything visually appealing yet at this point but I'm just creating things I like so it stays fun while I try to pick up bits here and there. Hopefully one day I'll be able to make stuff I actually enjoy myself.

[Anonymous No.5242469]

>>5242163
hot damn that looks better, noted anon thank you

[Anonymous No.5242509]

>>5242313
Those boobies wouldn't squish together. There's nothing holding them against each other. They would fall against her chest, away from the center.

[Anonymous No.5242544]

Pure futa shit of cucks

[Anonymous No.5242555]

>>5242544
Shitting futa cock of cuck.

[Anonymous No.5242590]

>>5242555
reminds me of that old futa manga where valkyrie was getting fucked and shitting at the same time

[Anonymous No.5242606]

>>5242509
Yeah. That anon needs to study big, naked breasts. Report back to us with your findings!

[Anonymous No.5242664]

Anything look especially fucked?

[Anonymous No.5242736]

>>5242664
Immediate thing that jumps out to me is that it looks like you haven't plotted this character's pose with the other characters in mind. She looks like she's hovering/intersecting with their bodies, so I get the impression that you said "I want this girl in this pose specifically", draw that, and didn't take into consideration how the others characters would interact with her mass. There's no harmony between them. It's easily fixed though.

[Anonymous No.5242744]

>>5242509
But that's gross and unappealing. If I wanted 3DPD reality I would go find it.

[Anonymous No.5242746]

>>5242664
You seriously need to practice more before jumping into coom. Jesus Christ dude.

[Anonymous No.5242748]

>>5242664
Looks like the work of a 14 year old Deviantart girl.

[Anonymous No.5242764]

Do japanese comics masters pretty much don't get the same respect western comics artists get on this board? I always see people shilling over Jim Lee, Mignola and the likes but I rarely see Toriyama, Tetsuo Hara or Otomo mentioned in the same breath outside of general anime threads, and most weebs on this board have fuck low standards to begin with so they prefer generic bug-eyed Little girls. Why Is It like that?

[Anonymous No.5242769]

>>5242764
The Dragon Ball artsyle is played out. We don't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.5242801]

>>5242746
Practice what specifically?

[Anonymous No.5242924]

>>5240860
The way I look at, your probably pathetic no matter what. I was just thinking about how sad of a goal it is to get good at coom myself. After thinking about it for a bit I realized it didn't really matter since stopping wouldn't change my life anyway. You might as well just keep at it.

[Anonymous No.5243180]

Ten minutes! A sketch like this would’ve taken me an hour two years ago and still wouldn’t have looked half as good.

[Anonymous No.5243182]

>>5243180
go on then, ,finish it up, no sense asking anyone to critique a sketch this rough.

[Anonymous No.5243198]

please tell me if something looks dumb on here.
I never notice horrible mistakes untill weeks later, it is a curse.

[Anonymous No.5243349]

>>5242664
looks good, but the men look very gay,
extremely gay even..

[Anonymous No.5243557]

>>5242664
Dudes look at they'd fuck eachother well before fucking the girl.

[Anonymous No.5243638]

>>5242313
Are you trying to copy TEKU?

[Anonymous No.5243639]

>>5241841
>it's always nice to see some art by a guy who hasn't let the internet rot his brain.
>compliments pedo art
My fucking sides.

[Anonymous No.5243644]

>>5242289
That anon is just pointing out that you are a fucking bigot.
GTFO asshole.

[Anonymous No.5243676]

>>5243198
The biggest problem is that her vagina appears to have prolapsed.

Visible vag in this kind of position is possible, but not with the way you've articulated her spine. She'd have to have her torso splayed flat against the floor for that.

Don't forget that the pelvis is ultimately controlled by the torso and vice versa. If the torso is upright, it pulls the pelvic region forward, a flat, prone torso angles the pelvis to the floor with it, giving visibility to the genitalia.

[Anonymous No.5243708]

>>5243638
Yes! I'm surprised you can recognise it as I feel like I completely fail at capturing his style. Was it the nose that gave it away? Obviously not everything here is really replicating his style like the eyes are a bit bigger and the character isn't really dainty (I really struggle to capture the smaller body shapes the way he does).

I'm only really drawing for myself and to create what I want to see and his art style is basically my favourite so I try to duplicate it a lot. Here's another example, again, the nose in particular. Trying to capture Aoi Ichigo sort of in his style.

Please keep in mind I'm beg and only been drawing since about halfway through the second lock-down.

[Anonymous No.5243750]

>>5243557
they are all men ;)

[Anonymous No.5243815]

>>5239308
Finished this a bit late for the anniversary. Now back to commission work (which is also Pokémon themed funnily enough).

[Anonymous No.5243824]

>>5243676
>Applying real world anatomy to anime
Lol, retard. I obviously mean in anime terms does anything look dumb. Next you'll say her eyes are too anatomically big for her head.

[Anonymous No.5243832]

>>5243815
You know Jessie is a girl right?

[Anonymous No.5243835]

>>5242313
>>>/beg/

[Anonymous No.5243836]

>>5243824
i can suspend my disbelief when it comes to a stylized face, but not when it's a prolapsed vagina. c'mon now.

[Anonymous No.5243837]

>>5243824
In anime terms, her prolapsed vagina looks dumb.

[Anonymous No.5243840]

>>5243836
>>5243837
Didn't ask. I asked if anything looked dumb, not on your preference for pussy.

[Anonymous No.5243842]

>>5243824
You asked for advice on what looked dumb and I gave you that advice.

When you lean into this kind of heavy stylisation, you walk a fine line between what looks stylish and what looks grotesque. What you've drawn would probably be fine if you're catering to people with a prolapse fetish, but I'm guessing that you're not, so I'm pointing out a problem. Don't lash out at me because you can't into basic female reproductive anatomy, and definitely don't ask for critique if you're not willing to consider it graciously.

>>5243832
"Girl" :))

[Anonymous No.5243845]

>>5243840
lol

[Anonymous No.5243850]

>>5243835
>>5243708
>Please keep in mind I'm beg...

[Anonymous No.5243851]

>>5243842
I asked for advice on what looked DUMB. You provided 'critique' on something that is personal preference, probably because you're a stupid crab faggot mad I outdrew you. Stay mad, stay bad, stay NGMI.

[Anonymous No.5243855]

>>5243850
No

[Anonymous No.5243857]

>>5243842
>Because you can't into basic female
>Can't into
Are you fucking retarded? Please stop giving advice until you learn proper English, mutt. Or did you have a stroke from too many hamburgers?

[Anonymous No.5243862]

>>5243857
>cringe
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Can%27t+Into

[Anonymous No.5243865]

>>5243851
>probably because you're a stupid crab faggot mad I outdrew you. Stay mad, stay bad, stay NGMI

[Anonymous No.5243868]

>>5243851
>>5243857
Please keep your whining response to just one post. Her face looks fine stylistically but her legs look fucking lazy.

[Anonymous No.5243873]

>>5243865
>>5243868
Crabs gonna crab I guess. Stop replying to me now.

[Anonymous No.5243876]

>>5243873
Your dumb, prolapsed cunny looks dumb. Acknowledge it and transcend.

[Anonymous No.5243880]

>>5243876
Sorry you're mad I am decent at art and you're a beg who won't pyw. Fuck off, cunt.

[Anonymous No.5243893]

[Anonymous No.5243939]

>>5243880
if you don't like my attempt, there are a billion references here and most of them make more sense than your drawing
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=split+from_behind

[Anonymous No.5243943]

>>5243939
Mine looks better

[Anonymous No.5243958]

>>5243893
lower half of the body (everything below boobs) is too small imo

[Anonymous No.5243966]

>>5243958
thanks, that is also what I feel, I am correcting it

[Anonymous No.5244020]

>>5243842
You're being too nice to that clearly mentally retarded abomination.

[Anonymous No.5244026]

>>5243943
Why can't mods just ban absolute faggot niggers like this? He's clearly not here to get critique.

[Anonymous No.5244087]

>>5243198
Hi anon, I hope you don't mind me drawing this for you in the hopes of showing you what you can improve on as you continue with your art. Please forgive the crudeness of my drawing, I'm still a bit rusty. I also tried my best to retain your style as much as possible. For the life of me, I tried my hardest to try to find reference material of how you attempted to show the vagina, but sadly, there isn't any. If this exists in your fantasy world then by all means, kudos, but don't automatically discard any advice given to you on how to draw something like that correctly. Drawing the splits for me was just as difficult believe me, but do you see the difference in what drawing something anatomically correct can do? Mine's not perfect either, just so you know. But when drawing porn, whether it be personal and for fun or something more commercial, you have to at least try to draw it correctly.

[Anonymous No.5244099]

>>5243180
Congratulations anon, any small milestone upward as opposed to being in that depressive state is clearly a plus. Like >>5243182 mentioned, don't stop, continue to draw more so that your confidence level continues to rise, but be mindful that ten minutes does not make for a good drawing. Allow yourself more time to flesh things out as far as a sketch is concerned. Try half an hour, and then a full hour, then an hour and a half, and so on. Good work, but there is still more for you to learn. I'm glad you're getting out of that ugly place, good luck to you.

[Anonymous No.5244112]

>>5244087
pinups like this have clear focus on specific parts of the body (tits,, pussy, navel, etc)
your attempt might be technically better, but you completely missed the point of his drawing

[Anonymous No.5244129]

>>5243880
>who won't pyw.
Fine.
Finger her 'lapse, anon.

>>5243893
I love your linework. Saved.

[Anonymous No.5244136]

>>5244129
uhmmmm yeaaaah i am thinking based

[Anonymous No.5244145]

>>5244129
digusting
based

[Anonymous No.5244151]

>>5243198
Never shade with black on skin for coom unless the character is really dark.

[Anonymous No.5244207]

I see sexualized art in /alt/ all the time, is this just containment for /d/-tier shit?

[Anonymous No.5244213]

>>5244112
That's gracious of you to acknowledge the technical aspect of my attempt, be it as poor as it was, but the artist did ask what was dumb about their drawing and how horrible mistakes aren't noticed until later. I thought it well to show that artist, in their own style, what can be improved on, things like the hair, the overall splits pose (I hope that's what the artist was intending, I could be wrong), but when someone made an assumption of the vagina being prolapsed, to which the artist replied to again, carnage ensued in the form of bickering back and forth. This is the artist's imagination after all, so there's no need to judge too harshly on how they perceive their world, let alone make assumptions that something is in their work, when it their mind, it clearly might not be. But why make a mockery of their work? What could the artist possibly gain from anything negative like that? >>5244129 That doesn't seem fair to just outright make fun of someone like that.

[Anonymous No.5244216]

>>5244207
You show one nipple in the alt thread and you'll get told to go here

[Anonymous No.5244227]

>>5244213
People are making fun of them because they're behaving like a spaz. It's fine to make mistakes in your art, everybody does it, from begs to industry pros, but there's no point in requesting critique and then going off like an autistic toddler when people give you that critique. If they're going to post here they need to grow a thicker skin and accept that a. their art isn't perfect, and b., that they'll always be learning.

[Anonymous No.5244228]

>>5244213
In addition, while you clearly showed the impossible, your imagination too is of your own doing, and if you so choose to believe that vaginal walls become detached in that manner much like a prolapsed anus does, then by all means, more power to you. Your fetishes are you own, and no one should tell you how to draw it. But you could have been a better example and set forth something a little more constructive than your ridicule. That's not right.

[Anonymous No.5244236]

>>5244227
I agree, a constructive critique is paramount when it comes to learning from your mistakes, and the artist did behave like a little brat in their responses back and forth to that person's prolapsed vagina theory, but drawing what they did, just to make fun? Not cool.

[Anonymous No.5244239]

>>5243855
>>5243708
>>5243638
>>5242313
Can't stop won't stop. For real though I think I've learned all I can from working through this piece. Off to do more butthole studies.

[Anonymous No.5244307]

>>5244236
>pyw, you little bitch, faggot, ngmi crab!
>wait, no, not like that!

[Anonymous No.5244315]

>>5244239
not into futa but most things about this seem fine aside from the extremely symbol-drawn eyes

[Anonymous No.5244761]

>>5244129
thanks but it's your lines that are so good! (so smooth )

[Anonymous No.5244816]

>draw one tiddy
>draw the ohter
>one tiddy looks better than the other
>continue this cycle into infinity
Also she's like 15 heads tall but whatever that's hot

[Anonymous No.5244862]

>>5244087
that table is so beautifully trippy sell it to me now

[Anonymous No.5244866]

>>5244129
Can I hire you for some sketches?

[Anonymous No.5245112]

>>5243824
>>5243842
>>5243857
>>5243862
>>5243868
>>5243873
>>5243876
>>5243880
>>5243939
>>5244026
>>5244087
>>5244151

HI somebody is pretending to be me, AAAAAAHHHHHHHH
I posted my picture yesterday and then i left and never responded untill right this moment,
That being said thankyou for your responses, the discussion and redraws that happened while i was gone looks very helpful, I think i have learned something good today that will help me make my drawing better,

Never change /IC/.

[Anonymous No.5245159]

[Anonymous No.5245183]

>>5245112
I kind of suspected that was the case lol

[Anonymous No.5245663]

[Anonymous No.5245696]

I'm interested as a super beg who is impressed by a lot of stuff in these threads. How did you get started?

Is it a case of drawing from porn while studying gesture and anatomy etc. or did you start copying artists you like and slowly evolving from there?

I'm finding it really tough to even know where to begin though pinups and coomer stuff is where I'd like to finish. Please don't just Loomis me because that is only a part of the equation.

[Anonymous No.5245848]

>>5244239
a lot of anatomical mistakes
the purpose of overlapping lines is to show form in 3d space. you just draw them randomly.
avoid tangential lines that mess up the perspective like on the head of the dick.

[Anonymous No.5245938]

[Anonymous No.5245992]

>>5245848
Gonna be totally honest. Not sure I agree with all of these but many of these are EXTREMELY useful so thank you for taking the time to do this. Top of the leg especially and overlapping lines.

[Anonymous No.5246041]

>>5245696
It's a love I've had since I was a kid, and it slowly evolved into drawing pornography over the years. I had huge influences like Playboy and Penthouse magazines for my pin up drawings, which eventually led to more hardcore mags like Gallery and Hustler. Among its many pages, was the world of pornography. I haven't looked back since. I tried copying artists when I was younger, but with disastrous results and ugly ridicule from my peers. But I kept my head up. I knew one day, my ability to draw would catch up with me. If I could go back in time and tell myself anything, I'd say, hey, it's not a sprint, it's a marathon. It's endurance through the years. Take that critique on the chin like a champ, because it's going to rock you, but stand firm and learn from it. Learn from several teachers, not just one. Study the professionals and see how they do it, learn their tricks of the trade and apply it to your own work. Learn your fundamentals! Study both traditional and digital mediums, study ALL mediums, pay attention in art class! (Thank you for being such a ball buster, Mrs. K. You taught me well). And last but not least, get rid of your fucking ego, because only then, will you learn to grow as a person. And when you grow as a person, only then, will your art finally catch up to you.

[Anonymous No.5246271]

>>5244862

[Anonymous No.5247641]

>>5233146
I guess this can go here?

[Anonymous No.5248097]

Korra seriously needs to rape 10yr old me.

[Anonymous No.5248138]

>>5248097
misplaced vagina, it wouldn't be showing that much in that position

[Anonymous No.5248156]

Get sum Arbok Jessie down ya.

[Anonymous No.5248158]

>>5248156

[Anonymous No.5248295]

[Anonymous No.5248297]

>>5248138
also left breast looks stapled in place

[Anonymous No.5248453]

Working on a butthole study and I'm having a really hard time breaking down what I'm seeing in 3. I can't really figure out how the colours were laid down and in what order (layers). Can anyone give some advice?

[Anonymous No.5248539]

>>5248156
the cuve of the glove suggests a foreshortening of the arm but the arm itself shows almost no foreshortening.
raising the arm that high will create a bigger bulge of the deltoid.
the other deltoid does not follow the curve of the arm.
raising the arm will lead to a raise of the breast which will also seperate it from the tentacle behind and make the image clearer.
you made a ridiculously big bulge on the hip but forgot to make the corresponding small bulge on the torso.
the base of the leg is in the wrong place.
belly does not properly follow to the hip.
the anus looks weird because it is wrong in perspective and is not connected to the but cheeks.

[Anonymous No.5248589]

>>5235674
colored this, among others
its difficult

[Anonymous No.5248615]

>>5248453
Probably the darkest brown, then the tan brown that fills most of the space, any shading, and then detailing.

Honestly that butthole looks like shit, there's no form and its thrown together lazily

[Anonymous No.5248626]

>>5239308
>>5243815
Really amazing, I love your work :)

Drew this, hit me with some critiques, bros...

[Anonymous No.5248631]

>>5248626
skin looks dead

[Anonymous No.5248632]

>>5248631
it's the lack of warmth in the darks

[Anonymous No.5248633]

>>5248632
add no hints of translucency

[Anonymous No.5248635]

>>5248631
I’m terrible at coloring so I just used a color layer over my grayscale in procreate. I just muck shit up when I start doing values in color...

[Anonymous No.5248640]

>>5248632
>>5248633
Could you guys give me an example? Thanks for the critiques btw

[Anonymous No.5248678]

>>5248640
look up sub surface scattering. it's the feeling of blood in the tiny capillaries right underneath the skin that make a person look alive or dead. it's why you commonly see an increase in saturation between the light side and dark side of human form. that part should be in shadow but the light has penetrated the skin and the blood turns this sub surface light into a deep red glow.

[Anonymous No.5248680]

>>5248635
If you're going to do that method of coloring you really need to learn what notan is and what colors show up in different parts of the skin. Just slapping one color down over everything makes it look like plastic. Use texture where you can, use warm colors in places that have vessels close to the surface, you need to fix this or you will keep making dead plastic skin.

It also helps if you do your color overlay and then paint on a new layer with the colors you got from that. Greyscale to color will always look washed out, you need to edit it and work on it more for it to look good.

[Anonymous No.5248702]

>>5248678
>>5248680
Cool, really good advice. Thanks so much :)

[Anonymous No.5248745]

[Anonymous No.5248793]

>>5248138
it's shotashit anon, he can't draw anything but horrifying, manfaced 40yo women with bad anatomy

[Anonymous No.5248844]

>>5248635
Looks like Elsa. Shame about the implants and she got a little fat too.

[Anonymous No.5248857]

>>5248844
yeah, its supposed to be vintage elsa. rip in peace elsa jean.

[Anonymous No.5248883]

>>5245938
Is fur shit allowed on /ic?

[Anonymous No.5248896]

>Be me, relatively new to art
>Decide to create accounts on social media to spread my stuff
>Patreon artist friend tell me to not befriend randoms with OC's under any circumstances
>People like my stuff so I decide to join discord and a couple servers
>Instantly swarm by comm requests
>I have a very stable job/income and am absolutely not interested on other's characters, so I politely say no
>Get spammed with pictures of their ocs everyday walls of texts detailed their 2deep4u stories
>Fucking memes everywhere
>Idiots start to tell me personal details of their lives without being asked for, get super uncomfortable
>"It's not about the smut at all"
>"I like to RP, but I never self-insert myself into my character"
>One guy has a meltdown because I don't want to draw his oc
>Befriend exactly one person, the only one that never bothered me with their oc and draw their character for free
>All other faggots lose their minds
>Quit discord and stay the fuck away from social media, only use it to post art now

Holy fucking shit, all those years being around and hearing stories before I started to draw, but I had never realized how fucking terrible it was until now.

[Anonymous No.5248898]

>>5248097
I'd suggest making the tits a little smaller and remember that they aren't super full all the way up a womans chest. The pecs should be indicated being pulled up and the breast hanging from that. Women with moderately large tits wont have that much overhang and crease when they're arms are fully raised like that. The tits enlongate and the areola becomes more oval shaped. Soften her facial features more. Korra doesn't have such a strong nose i think.

[Anonymous No.5248946]

>>5248896
>blogposting
Please get a life

[Anonymous No.5248949]

>>5248745
i would point out one foot more inwards and the other one more outwards.
the inner ankle is higher compared to the outer one.

[Anonymous No.5248952]

>>5248898
really nice redline. unfortunately the artist never listens to critique and just posts here to promote his pictures.

[Anonymous No.5249001]

>>5248898
is this orta? What helped you get to this level? Your linework specifically. Do you one-shot it or are they edited/cut with the eraser? And idk how to word it but how do you learn that hatching under the left boob? Do you use it for soft plane changes?

[Anonymous No.5249051]

>>5248949
I see, thanks.

[Anonymous No.5249187]

>>5249001
Not Orta. I've been drawing for a few years, and it takes a few tries sometimes to get the line right...used to be dozens of attempts. I try to get as much as i can in a single stroke. Sometimes you need 2 or 3 to get the job done. I've stopped using the pen tool in SAI to draw and instead use the marker at about 30-40% to sketch. The marker maintains the opacity you have set even if you go over the same area more than once...whereas the pen tool will keep adding more opacity. If you want to make the lines darker just copy the layer a few times and collapse them then clean it up. The hatching is just my own visual shorthand for when its a softer transition.

[Anonymous No.5249245]

ㅇ

[Anonymous No.5249372]

is it possible to learn to draw porn by drawing porn from porn webms

[Anonymous No.5249382]

>>5249372
just draw what you see dumb dumb

[Anonymous No.5249383]

>>5249372
I learned how to draw porn by looking at porn drawings, go out and zap to the extreme, anon

[Anonymous No.5249384]

>>5249382
i cant draw what i see my eyes dont give my hands info

[Anonymous No.5249390]

/beg/ told me to post here. I have no idea what the hell am I doing.

[Anonymous No.5249397]

>>5248898
I dont think that is the main problem, the head is to tiny for the body. make it 15% bigger and see how it fits better.

[Anonymous No.5249402]

>>5249390
i like your style.

[Anonymous No.5249441]

>>5239359
>the only big noticeably offense is the hair.
OMG LOL AHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA

[Anonymous No.5249834]

>>5249245
OP should always mention that this thread is not an alterntive for /beg

[Anonymous No.5249947]

>>5248952
That's not true. I read every critique I receive in these threads and correct my images right away. Of course there are times where someone points something out and I won't redo it, due to personal preferences, like pic related head size. I kinda liked her having more of a cartoony head size, since I didn't go for full blown realism. Other than that I reworked almost everything that has been addressed.
For the Korra head size being too small, I think it is no secret that I am into larger women, who are like 1,95m tall (7 ft in burgers), and have a 8-9 head sized body by nature.

Also thank you >>5235775 >>5248898
alot for the great critique, I'm always grateful for receiving constructive criticism, even if I seem quiet afterwards.

[Anonymous No.5250136]

>>5249187
Thanks for sharing. Are you whitebox??

[Anonymous No.5250314]

>>5235608
Are you on Newgrounds? I'd really like to follow your work.

[Anonymous No.5250330]

[Anonymous No.5250334]

>>5239006
>>5239007
>Symbol drawing
You need to learn how to see THINGS and not IDEAS of those things. You want your lines to feel like the edges of shapes, not just lines.
>Anatomy
If you want to draw appealing bodies, you need to know what a body is. Additionally, you may want to study a little bit about HOW and WHY a body works the way it does.
>Style
Shading with inks and colours simultaneously is distracting. Your choice of hues for the skin doesn't match what skin looks like or the lighting in your image. The appeal of exaggerated proportions is just that, proportions. You made everything big, so now it just looks like a regular, d-sized futa with a tiny head instead of a Venus Thread futa.
>Final Thoughts
Rather than trying to draw for a general audience, draw for the fulfilment of your ideas. Don't just ask yourself what's appealing, ask yourself what's appealing to you. Having some degree of vision or intent in your drawing will do more for you than you realise.

[Anonymous No.5250336]

>>5239848
The torso is a bit short, otherwise it looks good.

[Anonymous No.5250366]

>>5250314
newgrounds is still a thing?

[Anonymous No.5250508]

>>5250336
Now looking back on this, you are absolutely right. I should have either stuck to Mink in her regular body form, or her super-deformed style of body from the Dragon Half OVA. It looks like I got too arrogant and tried using both. Thanks for that critique, I'll certainly know better to stick to one body type reference when drawing something on model, and I could definitely use more body practice in general, for sure. I'm always grateful to learn something new, I appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.5250518]

>>5250508
Look dude, I gave you the critique, leave it at that. Don't write me a paragraph long response, I'm not interested in reading it. Jesus Christ fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5250522]

>>5250330
That pose looks stupid with that thin little hilt.

[Anonymous No.5250527]

>>5249390
Wtf is this Brickleberry/Big Mouth artsyle. Gross.

[Anonymous No.5250533]

>>5248745
COOMERS legitimately have diseased brains.

[Anonymous No.5250574]

>>5249390
That tangent on the neck/blanket makes it look like two images maybe lower it because it makes her head cut off.

I like ur style

[Anonymous No.5250579]

>>5248793
>horrifying manfaced 40yo women
HHNNNNNGGGG I came just by reading that

[Anonymous No.5250580]

>>5250366
It made a resurgence after the tumblr purge. It has better tagging than Twitter (not by much).
>>5250518
You responded to the wrong Anon

[Anonymous No.5250618]

>>5249834
ㅗ

[Anonymous No.5251814]

well?

[Anonymous No.5251895]

>>5251814
I'd like to see more from her body of work...

[Anonymous No.5251904]

>>5251814
Name?

[Anonymous No.5251913]

>>5251814
why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.5251949]

>>5251913
you know exactly why...

[Anonymous No.5251988]

>>5251949
I know.
But isn't it interesting how some thot will literally waste time and materials on a piece only to pose next to it because she knows people won't give a shit?
Why make art at all then? Why can't they go prostitute themselves on onlyfangs like all the other roasties do and stop poisoning the arts with their faggotry?
This is what i was implying at.

[Anonymous No.5252005]

>>5251988
these are the same people who will say "EWWW!!!" as well if you comment about her looks

[Anonymous No.5252014]

>>5252005
Yeah, the best thing is how they don't want a bunch of perverts even looking in their general direction when they post themselves nude on the web.
What to they expect?
Women are seriously mentally challenged.

[Anonymous No.5252206]

>>5251913
>>5251988
>>5252005
>>5252014

Bunch of angry incels kek. You're just mad that hot women don't want some pasty nerd faggots staring at them. If you were a Chad they would get wet. You will die unfucked lmao.

[Anonymous No.5252211]

>>5252014
>noooooooooo why don't women want me looking at them ahhhhhhh fucking WHORES KILL THEM ALL AHHH I NEVER GET ANY POOOSYYY

[Anonymous No.5252213]

>>5251913
If your body was desirable you would show it off too. Unfortunately you're some sweaty geek.

[Anonymous No.5252332]

>>5248295
not bad desu

[Anonymous No.5252346]

>>5252206
I feel absolutely nothing when you post shit like this, except pity on how bitter being a virgin has made you, and how it rules your mush brain 24/7. have sex, and I mean that.

[Anonymous No.5252353]

>>5238223
Love the expression and line work

[Anonymous No.5252361]

>>5252353
>love the expression

what's it like being a braindead bugman?

[Anonymous No.5252484]

>>5252206
>>5252211
>>5252213
cope, seethe, dilate, take your meds, you know the drill

[Anonymous No.5252851]

[Anonymous No.5253139]

>>5252851
don't forget armpits and lats in front view
this may be a retarded question but I've just got my first comm,do you explicitly draw the full body, ie legs and feet in shot, for a 'full body' comm, or do you get away with most of the legs being in shot? I want the focus to be in the body face and hands, extending the view to the feet messes up the composition for most poses (this is a standing pose too)