Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.5217529]

The gift of contentment is in your near future

[Anonymous No.5217588]

>favourite artist deletes all her socials
>no back up on danbooru/gelbooru
>i am the only one left with a back up of all her stuff

[Anonymous No.5217593]

>spent 5 hours turd-polishing a character painting
>background was already beautiful before I even sketched the figure in
>character just looks wrong somehow
>spend more and more time on it, close in frustration
>reopen next day
>looked at it
>it's a pile of shit on top of a great painting
>redrew character in 20 minutes, leagues better
>another hour fixing it up and doing adjustments, resizes, and redrawing various aspects
>finally isn't a god damned BLEMISH and actually fits the work
what the fuck is wrong with me

[Anonymous No.5217594]

>>5217588
time for some good old fashioned identity theft

[Anonymous No.5217595]

>>5217588
Do your duty and delete her shit.

[Anonymous No.5217606]

I feel like sitting through Erik Olson’s 100 hr perspective course instead of drawing

[Anonymous No.5217615]

>>5217606
weow weow ngmi police

[Anonymous No.5217625]

it's been going good for the last few weeks although im still struggling with forcing it, but idk

feels like there's finally a light at the end of this tunnel. go hard or go home is really what it's about

[Anonymous No.5217627]

To all the commissioners here
How is it working with clients? What's the process that typically goes down for you when working with the requester? Does it go smoothly all the time? Or do you always run into the most needy and demanding type of autists that always nitpicks your work, which keeps you fixing up "mistakes" despite being what was directed to do?

Because in recent times the latter has been my issue. And it's been actively make me regrat doing more and more commission work as time gone on. I've already started moving my payment options over to stuff like Subscribestar and the like but I don't really want to give up on commissions since it pays better as of now, but I can't be the only one that feels like this kind of practice can't be tolerated on average, right?

[Anonymous No.5217631]

>>5217529
Most of /ic/ who have art career aspirations will never make a real, sustainable career out of their work, because they will never accept that the world of art does not revolve around porn patreons and lowly social media commissions of other people's "OC".

[Anonymous No.5217654]

>>5217594
This is why you should never delete accounts. Just remove the art and private it. Some random fag WILL thief your name and use it if it's a good name.

[Anonymous No.5217673]

>>5217627
you get shitty clients every now and then, it's inevitable. as you get better and charge more the shitty clients decrease because the work itself is much more stable in quality and people who pay more tend to value the art more instead of looking for some perfect bang for their buck. how much are you charging? don't have to answer but im curious. if it's fetish shit then i am not qualified to speak on it but common sense tells you you're more likely to get really nitpicky clients with that than sfw stuff. commissions generally as a market have this weird property of fluctuating between buyers market and sellers market depending on the exact circumstances, so certainly it can be either better or worse than you're describing. in the end though you will always be beholden to the client in some way, if not on technical nitpicks then on overall vision, subject matter - it can be very soul draining even when the clients are good unless you find some way of making it work for you (turning every piece into an opportunity to apply studies, etc)

[Anonymous No.5217705]

>>5217673
Not at all fetishy, but price is $75. I'd imagine this was more than enough to keep things "fair" but also keep most of the autismo nickpicks away, but maybe that's changing now that covid is dying down and people are getting paid again.

Also thanks for the input, that was rather relieving to read.

[Anonymous No.5217709]

>/int/ or higher artist draws a floating head
>"cute!"
>"cool style dude"
>"looks great"
>"nice"
>"i like how you drew the hair"

>/beg/ artist draws a floating head
>"uh, you know you'll never improve as an artist if you just draw heads right?"
>"looks okay but you should be drawing more of the body"
>"don't just draw the head, you'll never make anything that looks good that way"
>"don't you know you have to draw feet studies in order to draw better planes of the face?"

[Anonymous No.5218165]

Draw a face in one sitting and never look away from it, spend 2 hours doing this. Finish it happy and proud. Come back to it fifteen minutes later, instantly notice everything is fucking warped, and the facial proportions are horrible. I think the reason I cannot draw an acceptable face is due to never looking away, never flipping the drawings, and, maybe, actual autism. Now that I figured this out it should be easy to fix, I guess.

[Anonymous No.5218208]

>>5217709
>things that never happened

[Anonymous No.5218212]

>>5217709
it's
>/beg/ draws floating anime head
vs.
>/beg/ draws floating head

[Anonymous No.5218216]

>>5217631
>because they will never accept that the world of art does not revolve around porn patreons and lowly social media commissions of other people's "OC".
ah yes it also revolves around muh concept art industry or having rich friends who have money to launder

[Anonymous No.5218232]

Why is it when I say the lords name over and over the bad thoughts go away for a bit? The demons have to still be messing with me. They no longer can take advantage of when I go to bed while I think they're gone but in reality they just found a new, more effective way of causing chaos.

[Anonymous No.5218233]

>>5218232

Like I used to have repeated demonic visitations when I wake up at least once per month but it stopped a year ago because I figured out how to make them go away. But they're not really gone, are they?

[Anonymous No.5218248]

>>5217627
>first two revisions are free, other than that +x dollarinos
ez pz

[Anonymous No.5218267]

My worst wishes upon every single person who visits this website. I hope you suffer and meet a miserable end.

[Anonymous No.5218277]

>>5218267
Watch your tone with me, boy. You may be the prince, but I'm still your superior as a paladin.

[Anonymous No.5218347]

>>5217627
>shoots for bottom-of-the-barrel private commissions, solicited off social media
>complains when the clients are absolutely garbage.
This is 100% your fault for setting your standards so low. You should focus on building up a real freelance career, working on real-world projects from commercial clients. Art / creative directors are significantly easier to work with, they know what they're doing, and they can pay much, much better than any shitty social media commission will.

[Anonymous No.5218349]

fuck I really want to just spend the day drawing but my friend's over for the week

[Anonymous No.5218352]

>>5217529
I just wanna build an art pc but scalpers and crypto bizfags are hoarding all the graphics cards. What nao

[Anonymous No.5218353]

>>5218267
Another one bites the dust.

[Anonymous No.5218463]

>>5218352
my laptop has such a shitty color balance that i have no clue what my drawings actually come out looking like.

[Anonymous No.5218555]

>been subbing an elementary art class for the week
>showing them the most basic of line confidence and shape drawiing techniques
>most classes are into it and are excited when they finally draw a nice circle and sphere
>the class with the most aspiring artists doesn't want to learn anything and just wants to trace on the computer
i get it, i was there too, but its just funny to see

[Anonymous No.5218608]

>been having a good run of non-stop drawing and posting fanart on Twitter for weeks now, number of followers even growing steadily, positive interactions with other more well-known artists in the community
>some random user compliments one of my pieces
>compares it to a far more popular artist's artwork on the same subject matter, linking said work on my post and how we have similar styles
>even suggests I look at their works to get some inspiration
I know they were just trying to praise me but it honestly made me feel worse and just made me wanna kill myself.
>inb4 get thicker skin
I've been at it long enough to know that. I'll keep trucking along no doubt but sometimes it's the most random thing that catches you off-guard.

[Anonymous No.5219087]

>look at old art
>notice so many flaws
>dread
>realize thats most of the stuff i posted online
>more dread
>realize current art probably contains just as many mistakes
>complete dread
>>5218347
Isn't illustration dead in the commercial sphere? Besides hyper-minimalist adverts or wildly competitive card game illusts

[Anonymous No.5219096]

oh god oh fuck I looked up some old artists I followed in high school and they've stagnated SO HARD.. BUT holy shit I've stagnated too!! I don't wanna be like them bros! I have a new fire to get gud. I gotta be better than them, I don't wanna be a loser anymroe

[Anonymous No.5219105]

>>5217529
Fuck this shit, simple as

[Anonymous No.5219122]

>>5217588
Why do some artists do this?

[Anonymous No.5219123]

>>5219122
could be for literally any reason that you won't understand unless you get to a point where you consider it yourself

[Anonymous No.5219255]

>>5218352
>>5218463
I am experiencing both of these posts. My advice is wait until after March when cards should start seeing production again. And in the meantime find a method to send screenshots of your work to your phone so you can periodically check the colors.

[Anonymous No.5219414]

>almost never post my art online anymore
>never like it or feel satisfied
>come to realize that about 80% of the art I see from artists FAR better than me I would not have felt satisfied with if I made it
I don't know why I feel this way now.
Unrealistic standards? Insecurity? I don't know.

I just don't get the good feels I got when ai finished a piece

[Anonymous No.5219429]

I am not gay after all.

[Anonymous No.5219434]

>>5219429
YOU HERE THAT, MOM?!?!? I'M. NOT. GAY!!!!!

[Anonymous No.5219439]

>>5219429
>>5219434
oh come on

[Anonymous No.5219481]

Colors are overrated. Fuck colors. Colors are gay and can suck my cock and balls and taint and dick.

[Anonymous No.5219565]

>>5219122
been there done that
first time, i just couldn't bother with it anymore
second time, irl stuff happened so i doubted i would have the time to draw anymore
third time, i had no more passion for it and felt like shit while drawing
fourth time, started to cringe at my work + depression i.e. what's the point and all that jazz
fifth time is soon to come

And sometimes you just want to start over with a new name because you just don't like it, you know?

[Anonymous No.5219713]

>>5218352

We are the same person. I've had money saved up for a mega pc for 2 years, but I just cant seem to buy one due to the Apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.5219766]

/ic/ is dead. The /mmg/ is dead. The animation general is dead. The Video Course Thread is dead. /ic/ is overrun by schizos. Nothing of value is appreciated anymore. Common sense and good advice is rejected. The quality of drawing is lowering. Nobody has fun on here anymore. Nothing is even funny anymore. This is really not the same place as it was before. We ether wait for the schizos to give up or we give up on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.5219837]

>>5219766
Unmedicated schizos do not give up.
They spend every waking minute doing the batshit stuff they're attached to doing. I'm talking years. The same insane vengeful paranoid shit, and it never improves or ends. It's like a record stuck on repeat.
Sometimes the smart ones even come up with efficient ways to automate their ire. You're better off hoping they all just die.

[Anonymous No.5219838]

I want to kill myself

[Anonymous No.5219848]

>>5219838
hey, me too.

[Anonymous No.5220078]

>>5219481
Have you ever eaten a strawberry in the dark? The color is half the taste.

[Anonymous No.5220110]

>know what pose you want to draw
>there's no reference for it

[Anonymous No.5220128]

>>5219481
fuck colors, I cheat with gradient maps instead

[Anonymous No.5220130]

>>5219837
>Unmedicated schizos do not give up
>same insane vengeful paranoid shit
this. Certain people here are just too autistic and hyperfixated on shitposting instead of actually improving at art

>You're better off hoping they all just die.
I wish.

[Boxman No.5220134]

I'm really starting to think the internet is poison to artists.

I think i'm gonna go explore reality some, exercise some imagination because otherwise reality is really dull.

maybe then my art will gain some soul back.

Playing pretend is good for you despite what anyone says, staring at a computer to "learn something useful" is not. I don't care how many followers you have or how hip to 4chan you are anymore.

[Anonymous No.5220136]

>>5219838
>>5219848
yeah this. i fucking hate myself so much it makes me physically ill, and it permeates every second of my life. I want to kill myself , but i dont have the guts to go through with it every time i put myself in the position to do so. I was an insecure self loathing wreck before i got cancer and now i dont even know what i am. everything feels dull, i still have the capacity to feel frustration and anger but past that even straight sadness feels beyond me, let alone anything positive. i dont feel like a person anymore. my problems are so clear and straightforward in front of me but there is literally no solution beyond caring less about them, and it feels like if i do that than all that really accomplishes is cutting even more feeling out of my life.

[Anonymous No.5220145]

How can you tell if people actually like your art

[Anonymous No.5220196]

Painting with a beg level while being aware of it is soul crushing. (Pic related is mine)
Do you guys have an example of good video that explain a digital painting process?I don't understand the mecanic.

[Anonymous No.5220203]

>>5218352
>>5219713
at least GPU manufacturers are on your side, they're trying to encrypt their cards in a way that'd make it hard for memecoin farmers to get efficient returns

[Anonymous No.5220242]

>>5220136
Read Marcus Aurelius.

[Anonymous No.5220261]

I hate all you fags with your dumb, degenerate tastes

[Anonymous No.5220289]

>>5218608
>good run
>twitter
Obsessing over social media is certainly not good especially if your ego is this fragile, you won't improve like that and you will lose all motivation at the drop of a hat once your followers stagnate, get a better driver.

[Anonymous No.5220308]

>>5220136
Legit cancer? I think if you truly had cancer, you probably be a happy person by now. Dont you see, nothing really matters.

[Anonymous No.5220347]

>>5220289
cope

[Anonymous No.5220357]

It's already almost March...

[Anonymous No.5220362]

>>5220347
It's not coping, I have a friend who fell for the "daily twitter posting" meme and he just became a completely depressed nervous wreck and stagnated his art since he was entirely focused on social media quotas instead of improving.

[Anonymous No.5220389]

>>5220362
You have a friend whom you told him about a fictitious "daily twitter posting quota" meme while he was on his lowest, mentally speaking, and he fell for your bullshit. Probably because you're jealous of his numbers and decided to bring him down to your level.

[Anonymous No.5220401]

>>5220389
>fictitious
That was literally his thing, he set out to post one piece every day.
He doesn't have high numbers and they are stagnated too, I'm warning anon about it because I know it's simply not a sustainable way of approaching art, you will absolutely stagnate if you focus on social media quotas not just because you have less time and will to learn and practice but also because you will develop a mental block where you feel you need to keep a consistent "identity", only copying what you did before.
Thankfully my friend slowed down and started taking learning more seriously lately, do not treat art as a job until you are an actual pro level and even then you should take it easy.

[Boxman No.5220418]

>>5220196

digital painting has a learning curve and a gap where it feels unnatural and suckish, I still rely on traditional scans for my sketch from time to time and haven't totally 100% worked in digital (yet)

I hope this helps, (it's kinda all the knowledge that made digital "click" for me) remember, don't believe in yourself, believe in the boxman who believes in you!

[Boxman No.5220452]

also to anyone in their early twenties wondering "Wow is life really this shitty? Does it get better?"

Short answer: Yes and no.

The world doesn't stop being shit, ever, in fact as you gain more experience from fucking up in the magical time society has what little faith in you "oh well he/she's still young" coupled with your brain not being fully developed until about 25ish

trust me go out there and DO STUPID SHIT

Go do graffiti, move to the city, join a band, fucking steal shit if you feel like (just don't get caught) rip up and tear up your clothes, buy stupid shit from the secondhand store, try being homeless for 24 hours and see how you like it, loiter, skateboard, don't smoke cigarettes (thats for people who have nothing interesting about themselves and just want some title as "smoker" plus you'll gain a reputation for not giving a shit about yourself which is worse than wanting to kill yourself trust me)
fuck climb a tree for no reason, dont harass those younger, weaker and naive than you, but tell your superiors to take a hike.

Again, one day, society really will not give a shit about you anymore and you will just be another boring adult who knows better (assuming you didn't get yourself killed doing all the stuff i mentioned)

Christ, I would NOT go back to my early twenties if you paid me, but looking back, I did awesome shit on someone's elses dime (which now I'm paying for it) and I will never get to do that shit again, or at least, have it feel "cool".

Breaking the law (with obvious limitations) when you're young is fun, when you do it when your older, it just kind of, loses its charm. You're just a criminal at that point.

[Boxman No.5220455]

So fuck the self pity party, you want to kill yourself? >>5219838
>>5219848

Go do it then. What were you expecting? The internet to tell you some magic uplifting B.S. about believing in yourself and that it gets better? Nah nigga, it never gets better. It gets exponentially worse day by day by fucking day and you have to compensate for that fact by becoming HARDER day by fucking day. Why the fuck should i believe in your dumb ass when I don't even believe in myself 100%?

It's called faking it till you make it. Or at least, fake it until you get a taste of stability and comfort and you live long enough to appreciate it and pray to gOD or the devil or nobody that you didn't burn every bridge of a relationshit you made in the process.

Feel me? shiiieeet niggas be coming onto the 4chan whinin and venting " o m g l i f e i s p a i n "

I get it, but the first step of maturity is realizing the world is shit, the second step is deciding what you're going to do about it.

"okay the world is shit, regardless I am going to ______________ because ______ will pay me to _____________ which i am good at, which I think the world needs, and I love it. I love _________ even though the world is shit."

[Anonymous No.5220473]

>>5220455
>>5220452

thanks boxmann

[Anonymous No.5220477]

>>5220455
>It's called faking it till you make it.
So do I have to go full shizo and pretend I'm something?

[Anonymous No.5220523]

>>5220452
>>5220455
This is all around awful & extremely superficial advice.

[Anonymous No.5220647]

>>5220289
>get a better driver
What else could be a better driver than a quota to get you to draw more?

[Anonymous No.5220661]

>>5220523
this is an all around awful and superficial argument

[Anonymous No.5220667]

>>5220647
Then set personal goals regarding how much time you practice every day, that will give you a better and more flexible way to improve and won't have all the social media baggage and stress on top.
If you want social media then just upload what you're happy with but even that creeps into your workflow too and fucks up your priorities over time.

[Anonymous No.5220678]

>23 years old
>Still a /beg/
>Haven't finished college
>Got laid off shitty retail job since march 2020, haven't worked since
>Broke as fuck
>Drawing tablet broke
>Broke as fuck
>Art must be on hold because there are more important things to do
>But I waste time on youtube and vidya games.

please kill me now.

[Anonymous No.5220690]

>>5220678
pen and paper is very cheap

[Anonymous No.5220694]

>>5220690
cannot go back to traditional after digital. don't feel like snapping pics of crappy paper drawings. traditional feels good, but nothing like exprimenting with a fuckton of software thingies and tools.

[Anonymous No.5220730]

>>5220694
>can't
You don't WANT to.

>snapping pics of crappy paper drawings
You don't want to draw, you want attention.

[Anonymous No.5220732]

>>5220678
you don't need to draw like you're gonna die tomorrow. its okay if you need to adhere to survival needs
>>5220694
graphics tablets are cheaper than ever

[Anonymous No.5220779]

>>5220455
>namefagging
>nigga
>just bee yourself
>spergs out just because someone vented their frustration
fucking normie

[Anonymous No.5220809]

>>5220667
There's no difference and I already do set hours per day

[Anonymous No.5220820]

>>5218216
>ah yes it also revolves around muh concept art industry or having rich friends who have money to launder
Not OP, but you're only proving your own ignorance with that comment.

[Anonymous No.5220839]

>>5217588
That's why I have a HDD just for hoarding artists I look up to in case they lose their marbles and go nuclear.

[Anonymous No.5220913]

>>5220839
Show folders

[Anonymous No.5220975]

>draw sketch
>looks good
>start inking
>it looks worse because it doesn't have that rough quality that makes it harder to see my fuckups

[Anonymous No.5220997]

>>5220455
>Go do it then.
I would but I'm a pussy that doesn't want to feel a lot of pain or risk just getting brain damage without dying. So I need enough money to buy rope and rent a quiet place to kys myself, but I'm poor as shit, jobless and have little to no chance of getting one thanks to the chink flu and the fact interviewers catch on my lack of motivation faster than a dog sniffs barbecue.

[Anonymous No.5221023]

>>5220455
based namefag

[Anonymous No.5221040]

>>5220975
>copy lineart layer
>blur it a bit and set the opacity to 50%
>throw a noise filter on top

[Anonymous No.5221104]

yes and no to that question

[Anonymous No.5221127]

>>5217529
I feel like people on this board for the most part have no patience. There are constant threads bitching about how X Y Z thing didn't work to make them a decent artist and it just makes my head hurt.

Doing 1 thing over and over for a month isn't gonna turn you into a pro, its not even going to get you out of /beg/. Just grinding fundies over and over for even a year might not. It's a process. And Talent *does* exist, but you can surpass a talented artist if you work at it.

I've been drawing for basically as long as I remember- like, elementary school age. I would intermittenly try and do studies- but you really have to focus on learning things for it to stick. You don't focus on just copying- you try and figure out where things go, and push it into your brain so that your brain will give you the information when you need it in a piece you want to make.

Studying has only really helped me in the last maybe 5 years, because I grasped that it's the same as studying something like english, and you can't just sit for 8 hours copying stuff and expect to be able to suddenly draw without something to copy


I'm not sure what I'm trying to say besides... you have to be patient when you want to learn and improve. There's no 1 easy trick to be able to do it, no matter what an art youtuber might tell you.

[Anonymous No.5221144]

i had a dream I was eating dinner with all the famous /ic/ artists. Tableguy, Simon, Pantsuripper, etc. They also all looked indian and muslim

[Anonymous No.5221217]

>>5221144
Was I in your yume?

[Anonymous No.5221218]

>>5220289
Same anon. I've been seeing improvements in my art just drawing everyday. One random user dumping someone else's artwork on my own is just tactless and yeah it somehow got to me so I should probably get thicker skin, but then again this is the vent thread.

That said, I've realized that I don't care for the amount of followers I'm getting now. I'm actually just happy being able to communicate positively with fellow artists that I look up to. So if anything, the recognition was a means to an end. I know I have shit art, but being able to join a community of artists has made me want to strive to do better and constantly improve myself.

I've actually stopped looking at the number of likes/retweets and followers I've been getting and now I'm more focusing on just improving my art on a daily basis. I've scrutinizing things I don't like about my work and try to focus on them one by one. Who knows, maybe random shitty occurences like these are what I need to keep working harder.

>>5220401
See above.

[Anonymous No.5221221]

>>5220289
Same anon. I've been seeing improvements in my art just drawing everyday. One random user dumping someone else's artwork on my own is just tactless and yeah it somehow got to me so I should probably get thicker skin, but then again this is the vent thread.

That said, I've realized that I don't care for the amount of followers I'm getting now. I'm actually just happy being able to communicate positively with fellow artists that I look up to. So if anything, the recognition was a means to an end. I know I have shit art, but being able to join a community of artists has made me want to strive to do better and constantly improve myself.

I've actually stopped looking at the number of likes/retweets and followers I've been getting and now I'm more focused on just improving my art on a daily basis. I've been scrutinizing things I don't like about my work and try to iron them out one by one with each new piece. Who knows, maybe random shitty occurences like these are what I need to keep working harder.

>>5220401
See above.

[Anonymous No.5221222]

How do I deal with this feel?

[Anonymous No.5221225]

>>5221222
That cake is clearly symbol drawn.

[Anonymous No.5221226]

>>5219565
Yeah, but you don't have to delete all the old stuff. You can just leave it there.

[Anonymous No.5221247]

>>5221221
Forgot to mention, but maybe it helps that the community I got into are the type to revisit and tweak their "finished" artworks no matter how many times needed, so revisiting previous artworks that were posted is heavily encouraged.

[Anonymous No.5221612]

I'd rather die than to be horny ever again
God I hate sexual urges

[Anonymous No.5221665]

>>5219414
im the same

[Anonymous No.5221668]

>>5217529
Just cracked my phone screen gr8

[Anonymous No.5221680]

>>5217593
You might have OCD anon

[Anonymous No.5221897]

I want to try again but I don't have the energy and I have become one hundred percent jaded. I cannot look at anything positively.
I did a good deed and I'm probably going to get fucked for it. Of course. It seems like I have this inexhaustible desire to do good and at the same time I get more and more bitter because I get fucked or disappointed every time. My life is suffering. I wish I were an actual asshole but I can only say mean shit on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.5221911]

>>5221897
if you want to try again then there's only one route, anon-kun - try again. people get fucked for good deeds all the time, suck it up and move forward. karma doesn't exist. believe in your actions and know that bitterness, even the most rational bitterness, is ultimately irrational to the core and will only serve to hold you back. move forward

[Anonymous No.5221923]

>>5217593
Happens to me too. I always try to take a break for a few min or days if I cant figure it out in the moment.

[Anonymous No.5221945]

>>5221911
Have you ever been too tired or too cold to go on for even one more step? I feel like this. It's a point where someone telling you "go go, another step, just another step" doesn't work. I have been going on "another step" for the past two, three years. I don't know how other people at this point keep marching, or sometimes they're just jogging forward easily, but I'm exhausted.
It's a very shitty feeling. I don't know what I should do, if I should stop for a while but I am afraid I will end up giving up entirely.
It's such a shitty feeling. I wish that at least once I didn't get fucked. Every time I don't get fucked I keep going for a couple years. I run on so little.

[Anonymous No.5221968]

>>5221945
if you feel completely at your limit then take a break. it's a silly fear to have because if you want to do it you'll come back, it's not like the desire is going to just disappear. maybe for a while, but it'll smoulder on some level deep down and you'll find you can reignite it quite easily

the truth is they're jogging through the same exact problems, they just don't pay them any heed (and as a result they don't metastasise into secondary problems like the one you're having now.) when you get into this state it feels like you're incapable of fighting what's ailing you, but you are fully capable, and you always have been - you just forgot. it's a burden you voluntarily picked up and kept piling onto and now you're at breaking point, but you can put it down, you know.

[Anonymous No.5222094]

>>5217529
This board is dying

[Anonymous No.5222135]

>>5222094
Good

[Anonymous No.5222176]

I picked up how to rig my 3d stuff, so give it another week or maybe a bit less than that, I'd be able to rig something simple.

And hey! I'll be away from 4chan for a while. I must complete at least another body mesh before I'm completely satisfied with the result. And the mesh must be completed in less than 5 days since that's the timeframe I completed my last one. Afterwards, I think lighting and uv mapping is on my to-do list.

[Anonymous No.5222244]

>>5222176
Personally it took me longer to rig than to model it

[Anonymous No.5222343]

I think I have a crush on Saturn.

[Anonymous No.5222507]

>>5221968
why do you talk out of your ass?

[Anonymous No.5222513]

>>5222343
she's cute

[Anonymous No.5222517]

every time i post on this threads nobody gives a shit

[Anonymous No.5222521]

>>5222517
It's a vent thread not a hugbox thread.

[Anonymous No.5222535]

>>5222517
That's valid for most posts in here not just yours

[Anonymous No.5222545]

>>5219122
I did it because I had a real life meltdown due to irl pressure. Since I had fewer then 100 followers, I doubt anybody will notice that I am gone.

Made a new acc 2 months later with a new name I like much more, just posting art and following shit I really like. Feels much better.

[Anonymous No.5222550]

>>5217529
Those birds are black and blue

[Anonymous No.5222579]

I feel like even if I was as good as my favorite artist, I would still be unhappy with how my stuff looks compared to others.

[Anonymous No.5222581]

>>5221040
Is this real

[Anonymous No.5222591]

I want to get married. I want to travel to Alaska with them and draw the waterfalls and rolling hills. I want to sled down the glaciers with them and cozy up next to a fireplace, drinking coffee and tickling each other. I want to lie down by the beach and listen to the crashing waves. I want to to relax and not work so hard anymore. I want to be loved and valued. Is it such a tall order to be happy?

[Anonymous No.5222611]

>>5222591
please be my art gf

[Anonymous No.5222631]

>>5219414
>>come to realize that about 80% of the art I see from artists FAR better than me I would not have felt satisfied with if I made it

Unironically I see this a lot. Generally it's the composition that's bad. Like if I was doing thumbnails, and I came up with that as a little doodle, I wouldn't have bothered with it. But most artists just go ahead with it anyway, usually if it's an actual competent artist it's due to deadlines and they just have to put something out so they don't have time to find the right composition.

A lot of artists just don't care and just finish what they start because they have a much better work ethic than us.

Example, pic related. Really good MTG artist, but I really dislike this piece of his just because it's an awkward and dull perspective and the I can't tell what the fuck the scale of everything is supposed to be in relation to eachother. Like is the sphinx just really fucking big (which is unusual as sphinxes, both in MTG and in typical artistic depictions are the size of lions), or is it just really close up?

[Anonymous No.5222648]

I am NGMI, I am giving up drawing.
There is just too much too learn and it takes up too much time In my day. I have also stopped enjoying drawing after realizing just how much you have to learn, having to learn all these rules is just ruining the fun for me, as well as constantly seeing ugly drawing after ugly drawing.
I wish everyone else the best

[Anonymous No.5222656]

>>5222648
I originally started drawing as way to get infinite customized porn. I gmi purely by accident when I shared some coom arts online

I think I would lost hope too if my original aim was for financial gains; yeah my art is still shit by /ic/ standards

[Anonymous No.5222672]

>mentally ill
>cant hold a job
>discover a passion for drawing
>first time feeling happy in years
>"this is it~ i will make a future for myself through drawing"
>OCD flare up
>whenever i hold a pen/pencil/anything to practice art, my head forces images of my family being beaten to death and pets skinned alive etc (images of hell)
>drawing has become hell

I will persevere but i miss the first few months of practice where drawing felt peaceful and fulfilling

anyone tried meds for OCD? i honestly want nothing more in life than to make a living with art but the constant stress it brings on has given me a stomach ulcer and my hair is falling out
this is hell

[Anonymous No.5222680]

i haven't drawn in over a week

i've been drawing for a while, posting that i accept commissions - even drawing porn - and no one, not even one person wanted a commission from me over the last months

[Anonymous No.5222697]

>>5222672
why are you so fucked up?

[Anonymous No.5222698]

>>5222672
Read philosophy related to free-will and control, thus improving your mental state and art

Or be a dependent on meds your whole life

[Anonymous No.5222705]

>>5222591
Read I will teach you to be Rich by Ramit Sethi

Combine this with your art career or whatever job you do and the thing you just described will be absolutely possible within a 10 year frame

[Anonymous No.5222717]

>>5222697
idk haha

>>5222698
hey man thanks for the suggestion, will definitely do so- any rec. for the philosophy?
you're right, meds arent long term viable

[Anonymous No.5222728]

>>5222717
meds aren't long term viable but therapy is, so go see a professional

[Anonymous No.5222744]

>>5222717
dont take medical advice from fucking 4chan, go see a doctor retard

[Anonymous No.5222758]

>>5222744
hahah i agree but reading philosophy is good advice no matter where it comes from imo but yea doctors app. booked friday ty

>>5222728
agreed, tyvm

[Anonymous No.5222795]

>>5222672
Something that works for me with intrusive thoughts is just reassuring myself that they are intrusive thoughts. If you let them get under your skin they'll get worse.

[Anonymous No.5222811]

>>5222717
You can start with Radical Freedom and Sartre
Even if you are mentally ill, you can hold a job
Albeit difficult it is not impossible. You must learn how to to overcome your own shortcomings

This is after all, your life. Not anybody else's

[Anonymous No.5222871]

>have 10k followers and active fanbase
>anxious at the thought of starting patreon or even making money through my art despite being a NEET
I just don't feel like making money

[Anonymous No.5222950]

>>5222795

man thank you so much, that is great advice

>>5222811

awesome.. you're right, i wasnt expecting any kindness on 4chan so i am blown away, i appreciate you guys..

[Anonymous No.5222975]

>>5222950
OCD just wants control and fucks your feedback loop because when you indulge you get release, and then the OCD wants more of that. I make it a point to resist checking stuff as well. It's hard especially when I am stressed or depressed but it paradoxically feels better in the long run. In the beginning you get all sorts of alarm bells but you have to ignore them. OCD is like a manipulative person trying to control everything you do.

[Anonymous No.5223120]

>>5217529
I had a bit of a panic attack the other night around 2 am. It was not the first time but the first time recently where I realized it's very possible that I really will just be alone forever.

I have this defense mechanism built in where I just assume I'll meet someone eventually. And it's painful when I admit to myself that that is not a guarantee and that the scales are tipping in the other direction the older I get.

If my way hasn't worked up to now, why would it suddenly work in the future?

I'm not a virgin or anything. I've had a few girlfriends, but it's been more than 4 years. And I haven't even seen a female who wasn't a family member since before Corona, let alone go on a date.

I know I won't live forever but the idea that my family genes dies with me because I couldn't impregnate a girl is so painfully pathetic, it's no wonder I invented that defense mechanism.

Hate my job. Lonely. Bad relationship parents. Health failing. Depression. Shameful porn addiction. Number of friends down to 4 and dropping. Not improving at drawing. Dead of winter. Country subverted by communists. Election stolen. Police will not protect you. Mass internet censorship. Privacy and anonymity disappearing. Gay people and fat bitches all over the TV. Everyone constantly demonizes you for your race, while simultaneously calling you racist for being that race. You are sexist because of your sex. Cultural and history being erased. Can't even go in a fucking vacation because the government is violating my human rights with a travel ban.

[Anonymous No.5223128]

>>5223120
the amount of cope here is what's pathetic. you clearly have some idea of what you think the perfect Man is so please act like it for once instead of talking about it ideologically, or your depression or whatever will only persist and probably get worse

[Anonymous No.5223147]

>>5223128
Yea never heard that one before.

>Bro just lift. Bro just stop watching porn. Bro just get a new job. Bro just...

Yea got it thanks, boy never thought of that before.

[Anonymous No.5223165]

>>5223147
It's easy to say you're thinking about things without actually doing them.
I also recommend you stop giving a shit about politics far removed from your personal life.

[Anonymous No.5223169]

>>5223120
Improve your mental health. Fucked up people attract fucked up people. Healthy people attract healthy people (and fucked up ones). Worry about becoming healthy first, then you will understand.

[Anonymous No.5223171]

>>5223147
okay, then don't do it lol. keep talking about the big bad world and do nothing and see if things get better

[Anonymous No.5223346]

>tfw no art friends to talk about art

[Anonymous No.5223358]

>tfw want a commission not because I need the money but because I want to try my hardest to please someone and actually finish a piece instead of getting bored and quitting

[Anonymous No.5223359]

>>5223346
hey fren do you have an ig? ive made a few art frends over ig through the self promotion thread. just befriend anons whose art you like. once in a while if an anon posts something based and redpillled i know they are cool and we can just chat like bros over dm. better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.5223375]

tHIS IS unfair I should be better
in all of february not a single drawing has been done
I should be better, this is unfair
And there is no help, youre meant to go and take it on your own, do your own stuff, no one will ever help you, nobody will ever help you until you help yourself and even then
6 fucking months 6 fucking months where is my victory? a single victory would have been enough to keep me sustained to draw more and more but where is it, i deserved my victory
TEN THREE SIX FOUR
Ten years to do what others can do in 3
TALENT
Six months wasted
4 months wasted
Why can't I do it? I wanted it

[Anonymous No.5223376]

>>5223358
Just do a request then, assuming you aren't getting commissions already.

[Anonymous No.5223383]

>>5223375
No one helps you because you are clearly a whiny cunt that doesn't take any advice and are just fishing for pity compliments.

[Anonymous No.5223384]

>>5223375
What an entitled child.

[Anonymous No.5223390]

>>5223375
>I should be better
>in all of february not a single drawing has been done
>I should be better, this is unfair

Anon, surely you see the problem here.
>You should be better.
>You haven't finished one thing this entire month.

You're not putting in the work and your results aren't where you want them to be.

Why haven't you been drawing every single day?

[Anonymous No.5223391]

>>5223375
do everyone a favor and put a trip on so people can filter you

[Anonymous No.5223392]

>>5223390
don't take the bait

[Anonymous No.5223395]

SIX MONTHS
SIX FUCKING MONTHS
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT IS?
SIX FUCKING MONTHS
AND THEY ARE EVEN LONGER WHEN THEY BEAR NO FRUIT
when they have been wasted
I could have been doing something else or nothing but it was my time, my time
To waste it drawing
so fucking useless, if it's not going to give you a good result why even do it in the first place?
I only wanted to draw, I wanted it but now I don't give a shit, I had fun, I had satisfaction but where's my victory?
Why can't I get it?

What makes me the worst artist on /ic/? I have no potential
>>5223383
No, ever since I started posting on /beg/ I don't care for compliments, I care for harsh crit because harsh and honest crit leads to progress, never did I complain about the flaws others pointed out, it was fun, I understood the material, partly as to be able to point even more flaws but WHY CANT I FIX THEM?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5223390
I can't deal with failure, I consider those 6 months so what should I waste even more time drawing? I want to improve but I can't, I just need to know the why, let me show you something
this was done on month 6, JANUARY

[Anonymous No.5223398]

>>5222581
No, this makes mustard gas.

[Anonymous No.5223400]

>>5223395
>I care for harsh crit because harsh and honest crit leads to progress, never did I complain about the flaws others pointed out
Except you lashed out at everyone that gave you any criticism or advice. So yeah, we're done with you. Consider yourself dumped.

Sorry, anon. It's not me, it's you.

[Anonymous No.5223405]

>>5223400
>Except you lashed out at everyone that gave you any criticism or advice.
Lies, point it out
Give me the fucking link on the archive
My first posts on /beg/ I was practically begging for harsh and honest crit
I lash out when others point out and lie to me
When they tell me that Im doing ok for X amount of months because Im not

[Anonymous No.5223406]

>newfags replaying to the tranny

[Anonymous No.5223413]

>>5223384
Entitled? What? I'm not entitled
What kind of progress would you expect to have if you were to draw and practice
on the daily
4 hours a day minimum
and using many many resources? Go on, tell me

[Anonymous No.5223419]

>>5223406
>>5223391
Youre so HOT youre HURTING my FEELINGS

[Anonymous No.5223421]

>>5223383
I want to know the truth as to why I can't improve, why I wasted 6 months of my time drawing, if I get to the real answer I give up, it's that simple, so are you going to help me or not?

[Anonymous No.5223423]

>>5223391
just filter out months and occasionally check if its a real person

[Anonymous No.5223426]

>even if my art seems to be improving, my online presence always stays the same
I understand the quality of my work comes first but I just need to figure out how to shill myself better I guess

[Anonymous No.5223429]

I want to know the why I can't draw, can youhelp me?
I wasted a semester
I wasted 182 days
I only want to know the why

[Anonymous No.5223432]

>>5223426
being an obnoxious american always seems to work if you want to whore out wear down your dignity anon

[Anonymous No.5223435]

>>5220261
Underrated post. I agree.

[Anonymous No.5223442]

>>5223432
Well I'm already American so Ive got that part down
I think a problem is that I made my twitter nsfw just so I could upload whatever and then proceeded to barely draw nsfw

[Anonymous No.5223445]

>>5223390
Why should I waste more of my time drawing when
>nothing works
>/ic/ agrees I should give up
>constant failure has made it so that I don't enjoy it
I did my grinding tell me, why should I give up? should I continue?

[Anonymous No.5223521]

>>5223445
>Why should I waste more of my time drawing
who said you should?

how exactly are you gonna get better by drawing less? do you think you'll get in better shape if you don't work out? obviously you are just not doing a good job of teaching yourself.

iwhy don't you sign up for a real class or something? make some sacrifices. pay for it. whatever.

[Anonymous No.5223535]

>>5223521
Give me your opinion on my drawings

[Anonymous No.5223829]

why you in the damn que if you don't wanna play the damn game fuck these stupid retards

[Anonymous No.5223839]

>>5223521
Stop talking to him

[Anonymous No.5223855]

>>5223421
Not that anon, but you need to prioritize on what you need to improve and work. You can't just mindlessly grind, you actually have to use your brain to figure out what's going right or wrong with each illustration you do. It's one thing to just draw non-stop, it's another thing to recognize your flaws/strengths and apply them accordingly to the next piece.

[Anonymous No.5223861]

>>5223426
Compliment/praise the works of your favorite artists, both big and small. Maybe at some point one of them will finally notice you. That's what I did and it actually worked, though I did it out of sheer appreciation for their art and it helps we have similar interests in subject matter. Took a while though but it got there.

[Anonymous No.5223987]

>>5223395

uhh hohh it crajy guy!!! jajaja
bro im from brazil, my life crajy... i eat a rat yesterday
but still i think you are weirder guy on all this 4chan jajaj
you dont shut a fuck up and always act retard
i see many the people try to help you but never you listen
learn listen and you be okay
otherwise waste ur time and everyone else
bye idiot jajajaja

[Anonymous No.5223995]

>>5223829
i play mainly soraka wbu

[Anonymous No.5224012]

>>5219096
>find old artist you used to love
>their art quality has degenerated so much you can barely understand why you loved them in the first place
how do you deal with this feeling, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.5224014]

>>5223855
I recognize what's wrong or not, I do iterative drawings or at times not always
Please help me, how to improve? What should I use?

[Anonymous No.5224059]

>>5224014
Are you able to improve on them? It's one thing to recognize what's wrong, it's another thing to apply that knowledge and try out various solutions be it through trial/error or through taking notes from other artist's works and comparing what you're doing wrong. When doing iterative drawings, always try to work a solution/goal for each drawing and see if it works, don't just mindlessly grind variations just because.

[Anonymous No.5224062]

>>5224059
Can you help me gauge it actually, again not posting new things but look at this and then the iterative drawing done later (way later but you get it)

[Anonymous No.5224067]

>>5224059
>>5224062
So am I improving upon my mistakes
see her nose the neck and so on?

[Anonymous No.5224070]

>>5224067
>>5224062
>>5224059
Well maybe not but still
on second thought I dont think I did
Im not that used to thinking when drawing, I think of course I do many tries if I care but how to learn this?

[Anonymous No.5224071]

>>5223120
Brainless poltard

[Anonymous No.5224075]

>>5223120
just kill yourself already faggot

[Anonymous No.5224087]

>>5224062
Okay so we're going with references then?

Look at the details up-close: the angle of the nose, the break between the lips and nostrils, the volume of the neck before it reachers her hair. Break each section down bit by bit, don't just draw shit freehand unless you're going for some impressionistic wacky style.

It's worth remembering that you shouldn't just sketch randomly and move on. Work on the one illustration and see what you can correct first. Hell even just bring out a physical ruler to see if you're nailing the angles right with her various parts like the nose if your lines are pointing in the right directions.

>>5224067
This is better but again, you don't always have to move on to a new drawing from scratch. If you have the time to make a new sketch, you have the time to work on the same one and make deliberate improvements on it until you've done all you can.

[Anonymous No.5224150]

>>5224087
I notice the general things, don't put a lot of thought into the specifics tb h, forgot to consider the angle of her nose I winged the general position and went accordingly.
>>5224087
>This is better but again, you don't always have to move on to a new drawing from scratch. If you have the time to make a new sketch, you have the time to work on the same one and make deliberate improvements on it until you've done all you can.
Is this useful though? But I understand, thanks
What else?

[Anonymous No.5224179]

>fucked up sleep schedule
>still grinding because of guilt but with a fucked up attention span so I can barely do 2h/day

>moving without good guidance,making tons of obvious mistakes but I either can't explain,or find a way correct them

>Not having that good mood from according small pleasures like listening to music,playing vidya etc,I don't even have the motivation to watch an anime

>but can't use that in my favor

[Anonymous No.5224182]

I want to pick up drawing again but I can't hold a pen anymore :/

[Anonymous No.5224256]

>>5224179
literally me wtf

[Anonymous No.5224261]

>>5224182
>I can't hold a pen anymore :/
why?

[Anonymous No.5224267]

>>5224179
Fix your sleep schedule and overall schedule.

[Anonymous No.5224663]

wtfff im so good at drawinggggg i love this.

[Anonymous No.5224688]

>can’t go to sleep before 5am
Why not?
>because I stayed up til 5am and my willpower and rational brain goes out the fucking window and splatters on the ground like shmuckers
Repeat this cycle for the last 5 years
Have been floundering in /int/ purgatory, lost gfs and friends, and become unhealthy and unhinged due to this one terrible cursed habit of internet addiction. Often think about hurling all my electronics into the ocean but always come up with an excuse, then boom, back into the cycle and *blink* 2 more years gone.

[Anonymous No.5224713]

>>5224663
Good for you anon, keep it up

[Anonymous No.5224774]

I fucking hate the following artists and hope they fail and have a horrible wrist accident
>Shadman
>Zone
>minus8
>diives
>Noill
>Gashi-gashi
>Bard Bot
>lilmoonig
>Jlullaby
>CaptainKirb
>niceupdog
>DreaminErryDay
>DONDRRR
>SrPelo
>Bluebreed
>Boogie
>ssonic2
>Jinusenpai
>Sunibee
>Ms_pigtails
>Merunyaa
>ScottFalco
>Colodraws
>Spazkid
>TwistedGrim
>SpeedoSausage
>NuclearWasabi
>Chris Armin
>Polyle
>Mahmapuu
>Cake
>miles-df
>DevDevDoodles
>Cubesona
>Boxman
>Thatbennybee
>WonderWaffle
>Andava
>Hirame
>Shindol
>John Bob
>Angstrom
>Eigaka
>Gloss
>lem
>Yungbird
>Miscontoon
>Joshin
>Derpixon
>Baalbuddy
>HellPerp
>puppychan
>Norasuko
>OptionalTypo
>Faustsketcher
>Wamudraws/Nickleflick
>Brekkist
>Sakimichan
>Legoman
>Jigglytoons
>TheOtherHalf
>Anaugi
>Modeseven
>Morbi
>Gerph
>Gats
>Cutesexyrobutts
>Iseenudepeople
>Krekkov
>Borvart

[Anonymous No.5224778]

>>5221222
yeah cunt its fucked as, I'm in this position now aswell
as far as I can tell there isn't anyway to significantly deal with this feeling other than just accepting that others have a better innate understanding of how to draw and just moving on and trying to improve yourself rather than comparing yourself to how fast others improved

it drives me up the fucking wall though when people are like "there's no such thing as talent" then some cunt of a 15 year old has skills 10 years ahead of my own

I'm still below /beg/ tier but I think the biggest key to making big strides of improvement is solid understanding of form and perspective, every time I go back to try and crack these fundamentals I feel like I get a little better in everything

[Anonymous No.5224784]

I'm doing it. I'm finishing the piece I've been putting off. It's going good, even if not perfect. I can physically feel myself learning.

[Anonymous No.5224791]

>>5224774
why

[Anonymous No.5224934]

>>5224778
>when people are like "there's no such thing as talent"
Remember these are copers.

[Anonymous No.5224945]

>>5224150
>Is this useful though?
Yes because it forces you to confront your mistakes and try to correct them upfront before starting over blind. It's not that you shouldn't draw multiple pieces to iron out your mistakes, it's more so that you should deliberate on what you're doing for each piece so when you move onto the next one, you're able to carry over the things you learned.

[Anonymous No.5225002]

I just realized i fit in with the people at /r9k/

[Anonymous No.5225245]

>Struggling to get myself to draw, have to actually schedule specific time slots for myself, do five minute breaks every 25 minutes, do warm ups, etc
>Valheim comes out
>Spend literally 10 hours straight doing nothing but building my house only taking breaks to use the bathroom
Why can't I have that sort of drive for drawing? It's not like I'm just addicted to video games in general, it's specifically these games where I can build shit like Minecraft, Terraria, and now Valheim that hook me for hours. Building shit with what is essentially virtual legos is technically a creative process isn't it, so why is one so much more fun than the other?

[Anonymous No.5225250]

>>5225245
Because you are addicted to videogames of that particular genre and made it a habit.
Maybe try 3D and pixel art since that's what building in those games is basically like.

[Anonymous No.5225340]

>>5225250
I've been thinking about trying 3D modeling but I don't know anything about game coding or animation so it's like "okay I can model but what is this even for?"

[Anonymous No.5225358]

>>5225340
3D renders are as much "for" anything as 2D drawings.
What are your virtual lego houses for?

[Anonymous No.5225432]

I can't get over the fact that skill doesn't matter. Anatomy doesn't matter. originality doesn't matter. All that matters is what your art looks like at a glance while someone scrolls at light speed.

[Anonymous No.5225443]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM ASIAN BUT I CAN"T DO BETTER TRHAN AMERBURGERS AAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU LIFE FUCK YOU LOOMIS FUCK TENEBRIAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.5225471]

>>5219766
I quit trying once the sketchbook thread's old regulars became scarce. This board's going the /mu/ route, all shitposts and red board tourists, and nobody with a high enough IQ to actually practice the hobby or do any kind of deeper discussion about it. Once you get some friends IRL it's a lot easier to deal with, it's only a real drag when these fucking trash boards are your only method of discussing certain topics with others

[Anonymous No.5225477]

>>5223120
You're a mentally ill faggot. You latch onto the nazi LARP because you haven't done anything of worth for yourself. You're literally the reason for the "basement dweller" stereotype, because the vast majority of your fucking garbage ""movement"" are just losers looking for a way to feel superior without having to fucking do anything. Stop gulping down the /pol/ kool-aid for five fucking minutes and figure your own shit out

[Anonymous No.5225484]

>>5225477
someone is seething

[Anonymous No.5225541]

It's clear I have an internet addiction and need a hard brain reset for 100 days but I'm debating if I should block 4chan or not. It's mostly a porn and dating app addiction that's messing me up the most. I've been going on these apps since I was 13 and can't stop. The routine would be dating apps> then when no women responds (jack off on porn sites)> depression > rinse and repeat a few days later.

I need to block youtube because that's an even bigger time sink than the four. I don't engage with /ic/ as much as I used to and this place is the only social interaction I have. Actually I would block /ic/, too, but I would have to somehow whitelist it and that would potentially have me relapse again so Im not sure how to work around it. Has anyone here suffered from something similar and have you dealt with it successfully?

[Anonymous No.5225614]

>>5225541
literally just destroy your modem with a hammer

[Anonymous No.5225622]

>>5224945
Ok, so what else should I use?

[Anonymous No.5225649]

>>5225614

I wish I could but I live with family and they use the net. This is 15+ years of mental damage I have to reverse and 100 days isn't enough to repair it. I can't use the "allowance" feature in Cold Turkey because that's just going to give me enough time to download a software to remove it and then relapse again.

So I have to make up my mind to block this place completely or not or if it's a non-issue/would make a difference. I know the real problem is just porn/dating apps and not the chans but I also need some form of human interaction. Really and truly I only need a few sites to access for tv shows and that's it. And social media is cancer.

[Anonymous No.5225655]

I have no eye for appealing proportions.

[Anonymous No.5225666]

>>5225649
>I know the real problem is just porn/dating apps and not the chans
Well then you know what you must delete and block

[Anonymous No.5225670]

>>5223120
Improve your mental health and stop sitting in internet echo-chambers all day. Do some soul searching and look into yourself for answers.

Immerse yourself in art and philosophy instead of politics and toxic environments. The world seems dark if you believe everything on the internet but it isn't.

[Anonymous No.5225684]

>>5223120
Hey anon, i know how you feel. Read marcus aurelius, meditations. He is a king of anicent roman. Let him help you. You might just find it useful.

[Anonymous No.5225708]

>>5222672
I agree with what anons mentioned before. What may in some cases also work is exposure therapy.
Have you tried getting the images of hell out of your head by putting them down on paper? Drawing or writing those thoughts down may help you deal with the thoughts.

[Anonymous No.5225716]

>>5219414
>>5221665
What may help with that is trying a new medium and just making experiments without caring whether some strangers on the internet would like it or not.

Then try making art that you would like to have hanging on your walls.

[Anonymous No.5225991]

>>5225245
Videogames are designed to trigger pleasure in the ol' monkey brain. Even something as a simple as a pleasant noise when you place the blocks can make for a more addictive experience. I imagine that its for similar reasons that some people only enjoy drawing with backgroud noise/music turned on.

[Anonymous No.5226061]

>>5220134
it is poison to your mind no matter what, and yet here I am

[Anonymous No.5226088]

>>5220134
you cared about how hip you were to 4chan? underage?

[Anonymous No.5226091]

>>5225432
Don't forget the part where nobody really cares about anybody else's art because everything is in function of popular and everyone treats each other like his public. if someone says something to you they're doing that because they're thinking of impressions, engagement and other shit. Nobody's a "fan" of anything, nobody is "inspired" by anything.

[Anonymous No.5226258]

>>5225432
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.5226326]

>80 million votes.

You will never be a woman. You will never ever convince anyone of your worldview ever. The reason you are seeing a rise in radicalization on the far right is because of liars and bad memes on the left.

[Anonymous No.5226342]

>>5219766
Time to leave. Oh wait you can't. Hmm interesting dear boy ahahaha you seem confused.

[Anonymous No.5226371]

why are you still here

[Anonymous No.5226417]

Based schizos, fuck you retards none of you deserve to succeed

[Anonymous No.5227010]

>>5217529
im here for the auv schizos from pp that need to cope

[Anonymous No.5227013]

reeee i can't seem to place the features completely right ever something is always slightly off

[Anonymous No.5227063]

>>5226342
are you really proud of the current /ic/? Blind fool

[Anonymous No.5227129]

I only came here to see if a book had been posted anywhere

Spending a few days lurking has dunning krugered me and wasted hours upon hours of my time, distracting me from drawing with shitposting

If you wanna gmi you really have to get out

[Anonymous No.5227230]

>>5223120
I almost had sympathy for you until the pointless /pol/shit. Judging people for shit like sexuality and blaming society for your problems is sad, and doing it when you're weak and can't control yourself is even sadder. Take a hard look at yourself before shitting on anyone else.

[Anonymous No.5227241]

>>5217654
>at the time I choose my nickname I was not even thinking about being an artist. Even then, that nickname was taken on some sites so I had to add numbers
>a fucking cloud service registered a trademark with my nickname as their name two years ago
>googling my name shows nothing but their site and some musical group that has the name that sounds like my name but spelled differently

[Anonymous No.5227262]

>>5227230
>no sympathy for people that disagree
You sound like you got bitch tits

[Anonymous No.5227275]

>>5227224
>>5227203
Do you think he's right? Do I lack TALENT?

[Anonymous No.5227294]

every once in a while I get the urge to delete my twitter n discord and go into hiding. I feel like a socially inept human being who shouldn't really be allowed to talk to people. when I get like this I produce absolutely nothing, no art. just bland browsing of social media which just makes my mental health worse. i am aware of this yet i do it anyway.

I just want to unfuck my brain and be normal so I can go back to drawing. I am a fucking caveman.

[Boxman No.5227301]

>>5223120

how old are you? you sound like me at 22

[Boxman No.5227318]

>>5223120

also the election wasn't stolen nitwit, that would imply something of value had ben lost.

d o n a l d practically gave that election away with "mail in ballots are 4 faggots" and storming the capitol you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.5227325]

>Running out of pages in sketchbook and theyre expensive

>Good at drawing the head and torso but terrible details

>My poses are stiff as fuck

>College is getting more stressful

I’m just running in circles and not learning anything atm. IK I can get better but the grind just seems overwhelming at the moment.

[Boxman No.5227333]

>>5227318

and ironically the oldest webcomic ever got it right from the start

[Boxman No.5227339]

>>5227333

[Anonymous No.5227344]

There is no happier feeling than improving. My hands are literally shaking from excitement

[Anonymous No.5227378]

>>5227344
congrats anon, it is nice to see positivity :)

[Anonymous No.5227384]

:(

[Anonymous No.5227387]

>>5227325
it looks promising, best of luck to u anon, u can do it!

[Anonymous No.5227444]

>>5227384
damn.....

[Anonymous No.5227456]

I feel down again
Art is painful sadness

[Anonymous No.5227617]

I've realized if I keep working for other people I'll NEVER have time to accomplish all the things I want to learn and do. I'm wasting 8 hours of my day (10 hours if you count getting ready and commuting) on someone else's agenda. I'm scared though to go off on my own. I don't know how to build an audience, or how I would make enough money to survive, but I've kinda accepted already I have to do it. I'm a militaryfag and have 3 years left in my contract to prep

[Anonymous No.5227668]

>>5227617
Someone once told me that being in the army means you spent most of your time doing nothing. Couldn't you spend those empty hours drawing with an ipad/S6 or something?

[Anonymous No.5227773]

>>5227325
>My poses are stiff as fuck
Practice gestures and draw construction based on an expressive pose rather than the other way around, it's not a matter of grind but you plateauing because you are getting in a comfort zone and doing too much of the same thing.

[Anonymous No.5227792]

>>5223120
Get off of 4chan or /ic/ or whatever first. If you feel depressed try everything you can and then if nothing works get some antidepressants. Ignore the (DUDE BIG PHARAMA JEWS) shit /pol/ fags love to bitch about. If you're unhappy then you're unhappy, better to try anything you can first then complain later.

Also don't 4chan or this board as a substitute for real world relationships. The mentality of this place will get to you if you let it. Keep it purely for your work and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.5227900]

>>5227668
That's actually true and what I tend to do, but that isn't guaranteed draw time. Sometimes we have work, sometimes we don't.

Also for a totally separate feel
>Like the process of 3D modeling but am never really impressed by the product no matter how good
>Fucking hate the drawing process but always think drawings look cooler than 3D models

[Anonymous No.5227998]

I'm scared of getting attention, it's triggering some elementary-school public speaking disaster PTSD.
I understand that there's nothing to be afraid of and with the constant turnover of content everyone has already forgotten that they gave a like to my shitty picture, but the reptilian brain resists logic.
It was all much easier when I had 50 followers, I know partly understand autists who nuke their accounts when they become too big.

[Anonymous No.5228024]

>>5217631
you say that but my friend started out doing furry commissions and he get industry jobs now, all you gotta do is actually get good and make a portfolio (keeping your weird fetish stuff out of it of course)

[Anonymous No.5228037]

>>5219565
you are a pussy

[Anonymous No.5228042]

>>5219837
>Sometimes the smart ones even come up with efficient ways to automate their ire.
ive witnessed this more than once, gigantic fucking backlogs of copypastas, piles of the same type of "redpill" images that are all more or less the same with minmal variation, same links every time, if i was more paranoid i'd even go as far as to say that the schizos im talking about even developed some sorta neural network to create posts for them considering how fucking consistently repetitive and samey all their posts are

[Anonymous No.5228043]

>>5227325
>Good at drawing the head and torso

[Anonymous No.5228068]

>>5227773
Any good sources to practice?

[Anonymous No.5228072]

I'm not enjoying improving on technical skill anymore. I'm at the point now where I can put my idea on paper. It may have mistakes, it may be messy, but it's getting communicated.

And what bothers me now is that I am just drawing things that I think look cool based on the types of things I see artists I like drawing. But in all honesty, my drawings don't have any deeper meaning or symbolism.

I have a lot of strong opinions on politics and philosophy and stuff but I'm not putting it in my art. I'm just drawings robots and skeletons and anime girls and motorcycles, you know?

A great artist I think is putting out a deeper message with archetypes and imagery and historical references.

you can probably look at great art and just measure shit out and find meaning in the composition alone.

>oh hey this character is in shadow and this one is in the light because shadows represent blah blah.

>this character has 3 fingers up which is symbolic because back in ww2 blah blah

i literally have never done anything like that.

[Anonymous No.5228115]

>>5228072
then do it

[Anonymous No.5228155]

>>5228072
why do you type like a redditor

[Anonymous No.5228189]

>>5228115
i might be too retarded. Aside from drawing a literal coal burner with a spade tattoo on her ankle, shoveling little racist african cartoons into a steam engine, i'm not able to come up with symbolic imagery.

>>5228155
why do you associate double space wit reddit? If I didn't double space it would be a wall of text. I don't think I've been on reddit since about 2014. Why would you ask a stupid meme question that is 100% not relevant at all to the topic of the thread?

[Anonymous No.5228201]

>>5228072
Just get more used to doodling to take things directly out of your head without serious planning and then develop the doodles you like in an impulsive way, you're thinking about it the wrong way if you think it's about "deep meaning".

[Anonymous No.5228216]

>>5228042
I'd believe it, having felt a schizos wrath before. They'll buy multiple computers with custom software they run 24/7 just to spite someone or something. The world needs to think about bringing back asylums.

[Anonymous No.5228218]

>>5228189
unironically read more, literature poetry whatever, try writing every now and then and fall in love with metaphor. this will #1 get you thinking in a more metaphorical way yourself and #2 bring in more inspiration from outside sources and broaden your idea pool instead of incestuously rehashing the same shit you already have in your head. inb4 someone crabs me for this non fundy advice, fundies are clearly not the concern here

[Anonymous No.5228226]

>>5228201
well what youre describing is what im already doing, and i consider that the problem.

i mean that's fun, but it feels very superficial.

i mean for example, maybe im wrong here:
when i look at a painting by suehiro maruo i don't think he just chooses these things becuase of aesthetics. i don't think he find that bird head quirky and fun. I don't think he's thinking "oh it would be trippy is a bird was playing violen" i think he is calculated.

That plane in the background is ww2 era. same with their clothes. a girl with a rose and a spider on her face.

I can't nail down exactly what every detail means, but I don't think it's just a bunch of hashtags that the artist felt like drawing because he thought they were cool.

[Anonymous No.5228236]

>>5227998
Same here. I don't know how people do it. It's hard not to delete all of my old work that I hate.
>>5227792
>don't use 4ch to substitute real relationships
But nobody IRL gives a fuck about drawing or ny other niche autistic interests. What to do?

[Anonymous No.5228241]

>>5228226
maybe beksinski is a better example.

[Anonymous No.5228242]

>>5228218
>>5228226
also i think another problem here is that you're trying to create work that has ~meaning~, which is a superficial pursuit from the start. to inject meaning into your work you have to have some idea to begin with and then make the work around that, not the other way around. i think what I recommended will help with this too, but something really symbolic starts with the core idea, and then becomes an expression of it

[Anonymous No.5228249]

>>5228242
good comment anon. thanks
please take this webm as a token of my gratitude.

[Anonymous No.5228260]

Why is this place so fucking hostile?
Was this board made with the intent to mislead and sabotage beginners with a sea of hatred and misinformation?
It's so depressing. I just want to see beginners improving on their skills while having fun helping and learning from each other. Harsh criticism is fine but vomiting on your keyboard while masturbating to Loomis blooks isn't criticism.

[Anonymous No.5228264]

>>5228260
You know people aren't supposed to post shit critiques like that here, right? You know what we do about it when someone does something against the rules? If more people did, we wouldn't have this much of a problem with it.

[Anonymous No.5228271]

>>5228260
>Was this board made with the intent to mislead and sabotage beginners with a sea of hatred and misinformation?
always has been

[Anonymous No.5228322]

>>5228260
Every board is hostile to a degree. This one suffers the most because the nature of artists requires sensitivity. All it takes is a couple determined assholes to shit on someone vulnerable. Then an otherwise decent anon gets their feelings hurt and also turn into an asshole. Repeat ad infinitum. I'm surprised this board lasted as long as it did.

[Anonymous No.5228422]

>>5223395
i feel bad for your mum ... she wasted nine months and gave birth to a whiny failure.

[Anonymous No.5228487]

>being beg
>people ask me how to draw sometimes
>I talk about books or YouTube channel that help me to learn

I feel guilty because...who the fuck am I to do this? Like I'm talking about ressources that are supposed to make you produce better artworks but my art is clearly not the best example...

[Anonymous No.5228495]

>>5228487
Anon, you have a map, but you may not have arrived at your destination. That doesn't make your map wrong, you just haven't had the time to walk the distance yet.

[Anonymous No.5228506]

>>5228487
>>5228495
cute

[Anonymous No.5228507]

>spend hours on a piece trying to make it perfect
>finally get there
>no one gives a fuck
>feel like a shit artist because of it
I cant help it. I cant feel good about my art unless it gets approval from others

[Anonymous No.5228541]

>>5228507
Force yourself to make completed pieces but don't post them anywhere. Enjoy them for the purpose of self improvement and only post them months later once you've outgrown them emotionally. If you keep your posts 6 months behind your current work you'll feel less like shit about people's reactions to them because you're already capable of more by then.

[Anonymous No.5228542]

>>5228541
That's some really good advice actually, thank you.

[Anonymous No.5228700]

>latest artist drama
>The big question ms paint vs gimp
>best way to connect tablet to laptop?
>asian jeans
>look at this random artist who makes money but has lacking fundies
>is loomis a meme?
>here's why krilley is better than loomis
>what's so good about loomis when i can just use krilley
>i post floating heads everyday but nobody follow me wtf?
>twitter screenshot thread 5000
>pol and crypto
>im depressed and i hate art why can't i make it
>caveman art better than soulless chink drone

[Anonymous No.5228712]

>>5228260
yeah 4chan is pretty horrible for the most part. visit for the resources but then get out... not a nice place to stay

[Anonymous No.5228976]

>>5228712
hey. This is my home.

[Anonymous No.5229074]

I've become very irritable, I look daggers at people and I think I've been lucky if I haven't been in a fight yet. My life has been complete shit for the past two years and I think I'm starting to get a few loose screws. I'm constantly on edge. I have to sleep with pills but I can't get rest. I don't even think about my failed art dream that much. I think that bitterness has become just part of me. I can't think or say anything positive about anything. Sometimes I don't laugh at jokes. I feel like I'm withering inside out. I've got cuts all over my hands from the cold and fixing shit and other damage and they hurt so much I can't reach for stuff in my pockets. My back aches, my head aches. This place is shit, I hate the internet and all the shit that goes on it. I wish I could just lay down and rest for real, even if it takes days or weeks or months.

[Anonymous No.5229080]

>>5229074
do it, take a break from everything and have a good old think about what's valuable to you and what you can do

[Anonymous No.5229084]

>>5229074
hope you get some rest anon, doubt it means much but I'll be rooting for you

[Anonymous No.5229105]

>>5229080
I've done this and every time I think that all I have is art but I have literally zero chances. There are just too many factors that make it impossible. There are too many people who are not only better but also more social and have more affinity with the general taste. I don't even know how they have so much energy to do what they do and maybe hold a day job on top. I think I'm just made of worse stock, maybe that's it. It's like what other people manage to tolerate is unbearable torture to me. And failing at art is poisoning every other aspect of my life. i don't know why I chose to do something that is this goddamn hard to succeed in.

[Anonymous No.5229130]

I hate that tone comes across so poorly over text and my poor communication skills don't help. Every time I respond to a post here people think I'm being bitchy or upset when I'm literally agreeing with what they're saying.

[Anonymous No.5229135]

>>5229105
>maybe I'm just made of worse stock
KEK
Anon you can be exactly like those people, but I'm sure you can imagine they have different rationalisations about life than you. they don't think the same way you do, or else they would be stuck too. your beliefs directly guide your actions. this might sound a bit esoteric but it's completely true, the world is the world but your perception of it is in your head. you can figure it out, i believe in you.

[Anonymous No.5229163]

>>5229135
Man I swear I have tried anything to convince myself to think differently, it seems to me that it's just outside of my possibilities. And I'm not someone new who's quitting too early. I've been bashing my head against this for so long. As I said this isn't even just one thing, it's a whole repertoire of things that I haven't even begun working on. I'm a 7/10 artist at my very best while there's an army of 8/10s who are social butterflies, and they're good at selling themselves, and they're good with the public, and they have tastes that people like, and they like social media / don't hate it, and they're more flexible, and they have more stamina in general. and, and, and. I'm a 0 on these things after working so hard on the art alone and being mediocre. I'm not even close to being so good that I can sell myself for the art alone. And all these things are collectively degrading because I'm breaking down on a physical level from stress, fatigue, etc.

[Anonymous No.5229176]

>>5229105
>>5229105
if you want something a bit less esoteric, here's this:
they're better? you can get better too, I'm sure you know this seeing as you're posting here. there are leaps and bounds to be made with your work, and you can make them if you commit and put in the practice.
they're more in touch with general trends? you can be too, they just spend more time swimming in the sea of social media and engaging with what people are consuming, maybe even consuming it themselves. if you're into something fotm you don't even have to think twice about what to make, it becomes very natural. get involved with people and media instead of cutting everything off just to sit in your own bubble, and you'll soon find it's very obvious what the trends are and how to be in touch with them
they're more social? but you don't even have to be social as an artist in this day and age. you posted this here, so you can make a social media post. social anxiety is something many people, artists included, struggle with, but you can get over it, and even if you don't, it's really not the end of the world as an artist - at the end of the day people are here to look at your work, not to make friends with you, although you absolutely can do that through art too and you'll realize that by exposing yourself to it
how do they have so much energy? refer to my previous post, they don't carry the same burdens as you. overthinking and conscious suffering and endless pontification on the roadblocks in your way are enough to stop anyone from making anything. they find ways around them, solve them, or simply sidestep them in the first place by becoming monomaniac about what they do. if you really love art, and you're obsessed with making art, none of that shit is even worth considering for you - you have a clear goal and you're not thinking about anything else. you can even approach this from a practical angle - are these thoughts helpful?

[Anonymous No.5229190]

>>5229105
>>5229176
in short, there are many rational ways to dismiss everything you just said - if you want to make progress, you have to find some way to accept them, even if it means fighting with some part of your core self.

and at the end of the day, everything is difficult - really making it in any field requires the same level of mental effort and struggle, and the same demons to overcome. that's just everyone's lot in life, and the people who make it in any field find some way, consciously or unconsciously, of moving forward despite all these setbacks and roadblocks.

you can do it too.

[Anonymous No.5229192]

>>5229176
It's not a matter of not knowing how to do these things or what is trending, it's just that I am not made of plasticine. I cannot radically change myself, my art, my tastes just to be successful or fake my entire persona to something I am not, especially since I would come across as obviously fake while the other people genuinely like the things, or at least are much better at faking enthusiasm.
I feel like I'm massively out of place with the art world, and within the world in general.

[Anonymous No.5229196]

>>5229192
What kind of things do you draw, anon?

[Anonymous No.5229204]

>>5229192
you don't have to fake your entire persona, and it's obvious that you can't radically change yourself at the drop of a hat, but it's also true that people change naturally throughout their lives over longer periods of time. how come? experiences overlay previous experiences and taper your disposition towards whatever they relate to. this is also why brooding in the swamp won't get you anywhere - you just end up reinforcing your own biases. you don't have to do all of these things at once and put on a front - just start. somewhere, anywhere. and after the first step comes the second one and before you know it you're in a different place.

as for mainstream taste, you don't even have to have it, desu. plenty of artists - artists ESPECIALLY - carve out their niche by appealing wholeheartedly to their own taste, whether it's style or subject matter. sure, you won't be picasso level famous by doing this, but why is that necessary? you'll still make it. being one with the hivemind of pop culture has never been a pre-requisite for making it or being a good artist

[Anonymous No.5229207]

how come i only wanna draw when i'm half-asleep. i get all excited and shit then i wake up and it's like "time to draw!!" and i can't do shit.

[Anonymous No.5229212]

>>5229204
What if you try enjoying a thing and every single time you just dislike it more?
What do you draw, just so I know where you're coming from?

[Anonymous No.5229224]

>>5229212
then look for something else, kek. you won't enjoy everything, this is what taste is all about. even the most committed of fotm artists don't like everything they draw, as you already stated, but does that mean that there's NOTHING out there you'll like? music is endless, film is endless, literature is endless, anime and cartoons are endless, games are endless. you don't need to TRY to enjoy something, just go into it with an open mind and find something that clicks with you - if it doesn't try something at the opposite end of the spectrum. you can make successful, appealing art about anything - amundsen is a huge name in fantasy illustration and he draws fucking swedish or whatever folklore, what kind of mainstream market does that fit into? mohrbacher paints angel mythology, snatti does anime sunsets, loish just does flowy portraits, that guy made a name for himself drawing about a fucking candle man who melts. you can pick any story beat that resonates with you and make work about it and if the work is good it will attract an audience.

at the moment i just do dnd commissions but i love high fantasy shit, i draw girls in armour and horns and stuff like that, but that's completely based on my own taste. you can even find ways of taking fotm trends and adapting them to whatever your own taste is if you use your imagination, two birds with one stone.

[Anonymous No.5229233]

>>5229163
i will just ask you this one question, and it is very common sense - do you think they excelled in all of these areas immediately, simultaneously?

how do you eat an elephant?

[Anonymous No.5229247]

>>5229224
Honestly you mentioned people who were famous even back in the DA days where nobody was online. And many of these good artists were still nobodies for years. I can't plan to get anywhere 10 years from now, maybe. And with all the competition there is right now. Right now I'm at zero. I know that what you say is good and all but I just feel like I'm personally in too shitty a spot. It's my fault.
I don't want to be the person who fights back these good motivational things that are thrown his way, these are things I went through, that I have kept up for a long time. I just can't keep them up anymore.
>>5229233
True but the elephant will rot if you take too long eating it.

[Anonymous No.5229265]

>>5229247
word but the people i listed are just the REALLY popular ones that came to the top of my head. they've been successful for a while, it didn't take them from then til now to find success - and there are plenty more people in mid tier popularity who are much newer, and plenty of people who are very good but have no popularity at all. i don't know if you know, but there are plenty of studio artists who went straight into studios and never developed a social media presence at all, so they're out there knocking out top level work with like a few hundred followers. they don't care, though, because they already made it through a different route, and with the quality of their work it's only a matter of time before the following grows.

>with all the competition right now
there always has been and always will be competition. whether you look at that as a roadblock or as an opportunity to show who you are is up to you. it's easy to look back at the deviantart days and say, well, there was no competition back then - but no, i started posting work back then, but seeing as i was a complete beginner i got outshined by pretty much everybody. the relative standard was lower, sure, but that doesn't mean you would've just waltzed your way to big numbers without any competition. you can only say the standard was lower in retrospect - back then everyone looked up to it and aimed for it

[Anonymous No.5229272]

>>5229247
and you know, logically, that you are not at zero. if you were a literal newborn you would be at zero, but you said yourself you're a 7/10 artist. you know how to study, you know how to learn. you understand trends from a logical perspective even if you're still struggling with how you might engage. but you are very far from absolute zero - you're just in the long middle

[Anonymous No.5229285]

>>5229265
My work isn't nearly top level though. I'm worse than people who are 10 years younger despite working seriously for years. And as I said I lack on a lot of stuff that comes effortlessly to others. I hate social situations, I cave in under stress. All job ads have that you work well in teams and have a friendly attitude and you perform under stress. And so on. It feels to me like I'm a cripple retard who wants to become an astronaut.
I'm not even going to get into how social media is way different from old deviantart, how much harder it is to be seen, that's not even a factor, I can't even get to this part because I cave in before I start to compete.
Everything logical in me is telling me that I'm eroding my health and mind over art when if only I were able to drop it and find something else I would be more functional. I chose the worst thing I could choose.
Anyway I think I'll just lay down a while. Even ranting here get exhausting.

[Anonymous No.5229301]

>>5229285
i'm not saying it has to be top level right now. im saying there are people who started at all sorts of different times, in different ways, and at different skill levels, who are making it - whatever that means to them.

and yeah, it goes without saying that it's different lmao, but it's still just as hard to be seen as it was back then. to get big numbers you had to be good relative to everyone else - to appeal in some way more successfully than everyone else. it really is all relative and you forget that when you look back with nostalgia goggles. there are different ways to play the game now but also remember that a lot of them are superficial, and overvaluing popularity is just a setup for a rude awakening one day. success or contentment aren't found solely in that follower number.

and i agree, it sounds like you are eroding both of those things - but you also don't have to. imagine if you simply started competing without worrrying about any of this? might sound like a fantasy now, but i promise you it's possible, and it's possible for you - you've just made it more difficult for yourself without knowing it.

there's a lot to think about here which is why i said think about it. you won't necessarily resolve everything first time, it might take lots of thinking or you might even commit to a 180 before you realize how you could approach this. it's all good, though - i promise you you can get there

[Anonymous No.5229307]

Why does this board even have a vent thread? You don't see vent threads on any other board, bunch of pussy motherfuckers here, quit acting like drawing is some grueling task and go back to whatever discord you faggots came from

[Anonymous No.5229318]

>>5229285
and i'd like to add this - when you're in the mood you're in, you will find a million ways to justify what you're thinking. any reason is a good reason when it justifies your conclusions, and this confirmation bias will make the burden you face seem even bigger than it is. all of the negative things you've listed, you're capable of dealing with, and in a vacuum you could sit down and dismantle them all one by one until there wasn't a single thing in your way - but the feeling is greater than the sum of its parts and that's why it seems so overwhelming right now, and why you view yourself as being at absolute zero. it's not true, though, and you can move past it

[Anonymous No.5229327]

>>5229307
this, fucking faggots crying about gay shit, just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and stfu

[Anonymous No.5229356]

>>5227325
>Running out of pages in sketchbook and theyre expensive
use printer paper baka

[Anonymous No.5229519]

>>5229307
the art world should be welcoming and willing to share resources but most artists are crabs and disingenuous

[Anonymous No.5229556]

i draw everyday but its still not making me better, its still not enough

[Anonymous No.5229596]

>pixiv
>requested drawings
>bunch of stuff
Wait, what? Are these intended for me, or is there a general pool of requested illusts?

[Anonymous No.5229707]

>>5219122
what are good programs for archiving twitter/instagram posts of artists?

[Anonymous No.5229754]

These past few weeks are some of the happiest I've been in the longest time (years even) and I'm scared that something bad will happen soon or it'll all come crashing down.

[Anonymous No.5229792]

>>5229754
why are you so happy?

[Anonymous No.5229808]

>>5229792
Producing works on a consistent basis after nearly 2-3 years of literally nothing. Making friends with other artists, sharing works amongst each other, etc.

[Anonymous No.5229827]

>>5229808
wtf..what's your secret? Are you good at art now? I want some art friends but I always feel like there's a disconnect between goals. Some people just don't give a shit and want to draw crude pokemon art over and over

[Anonymous No.5229857]

>>5229827
Just earnestly commenting on a lot of my favorite works as I started quietly drawing on my own. Some (not all) of them liked my stuff due to similar interests and it just snowballed. Now I'm in a little circle of sorts.

I wouldn't say I'm good though, but I do feel myself improving every step of the way and I feel motivated to do better now that I'm surrounded by people working just as hard.

[Anonymous No.5229911]

>>5229857
Are you a girl?

[Anonymous No.5229917]

>>5229911
No, why would you think that?

[Anonymous No.5229949]

>>5229917
Feels like only girls would get sucked into circles this easily, just by commenting/liking other people's stuff it's natural that guys would reach out if you were a girl.

[Anonymous No.5229956]

>>5229949
Ah yeah, that's fair enough. Mind you it took weeks for things to even get to this point for me. And for the most part, I just did it out of appreciation for the works and artists I liked. Just felt like sharing some positivity around for once.

[Anonymous No.5230048]

>>5229956
I am going to try this with artists I like but probably gonna get ignored. I am also an envious crab so I low key hope your artist group implodes, so please post about it here if it does so I can experience schadenfreude at your expense.

[Anonymous No.5230102]

>>5230048
I mean, that's the trick but I never expected to get any responses back and I wasn't foolish enough to think it'd amount to anything but here we are. Since you're going to try this, if things make a turn for the better, be sure to post about it here too.

[Anonymous No.5230549]

I really want some art friends who actually enjoy drawing.

[Anonymous No.5230706]

>>5219766
we need fuse all creative boards in one, we are spread too thin, but that never going to happen

[Anonymous No.5231079]

>>5219766
Unironically, I mostly come here for the vent threads nowadays. This board is just plagued with too many schizos and shitflinging and at a certain point it's more detrimental for a person starting out to come here for advice than just getting some generic art lessons. Only other times I find anything useful here is when people offer the pros and cons of various social media websites when it comes to artists.