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I want to remind my art best friend how much I love them this valentines by taking this opportunity RIGHT NOW to say that I LOVE (YOU) and you'll always be in my <3.

>> No.5201766
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5201766

You don't need to vent
Youre better than that

>> No.5201773

i started making a comic as a joke, it got enough track that i can live off from it, can't make new chapters because it stopped being just a joke

>> No.5201774

>>5201773
what is it. ill read

>> No.5201778

>>5201774
it's just a dumb comic about jesus being disappointed with everything nowadays, wont post link here, try searching it and maybe you'll find it

>> No.5201803
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5201803

https://youtu.be/ESjdV0h9sdc

A song to cheer you up. Don't be sad!

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5201815

sometimes i think i will never be good or get any recognition for my ''art'' and i just want to give up and there are people whit even shittier art than me and they are already making money and getting one gorillian of followers making this worse.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.5201828 [DELETED] 

spilled spaghetti on a drawthread and right after everyone started following me on twitter, now I feel like they are just making fun of me and I am pretty embarrassed

>> No.5201869

When I look at a drawing or painting I see the objective flatness where everything is stuck onto the flat surface and arranged as color and value before I see the 3-D forms the artist intended, am I NGMI?

>> No.5201901
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5201901

>start drawing a few years ago
>make social media to archive my journey online
>ups and downs but it goes okay, noticeably alright improvement so far
>art mutual I met when I first made the social media
>their art is practically identical to the same /beg/ work they were making years ago
>they even managed to land an "art job" that consisted of them making several pages for the poorly drawn comic
>they'd randomly post wips they took a picture using their camera of the digital canvas
>english is very poor since theyre from Singapore, but I think they were literally asking the client when will they get paid two months after starting the work
>months went on and they said they quit after the client apparently told them the art wasnt working, and they went like 6 months without seeing a dime
>not only did they not work on improving their art, but they also got robbed for being a dumbass lacking common sense
>apparently they saw the client advertising for new artists and blocked them when they tried saying something
Bruhs
How can people be this dumb?

>> No.5202206

>>5201815
Imagine how easy it would be for you to draw tumblrina scribbles after a few years of practicing fundies though. Just producing super simple, stylized, relatable art that the masses will like.
You would get money and a gorillion followers by doing shit that won't even make you break a sweat.
Fundies get you nowhere if you don't invoke some kind of emotion. That's why simple shit gets tons of likes while portrait studies and shit get zero recognition.
I'm a /beg/ so I might be dunning-krugering it, but I'm almost entirely convinced that creating an emotional connection with viewers is the #1 thing for creating engagement that goes beyond getting liked and forgotten, or completely ignored. Skill is obviously very important but alone it's practically worthless.

>> No.5202287
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5202287

how do I get over being incredibly repulsed by my shitty ugly /beg/ scribbles?

>> No.5202291

>>5202287
Ego death.

>> No.5202348

>>5202287
focus on fixing just one thing at a time
it doesn't matter if the drawing as a whole is shit, just focus on getting the pose right, or the eyes symmetrical, etc.

>> No.5202353

what is the point of all these spam bot accounts, especially from other artist? they follow and expect a follow back or unfollow. what is the point of that, even if someone follows they are just a fake follower and not because they like their art??

>> No.5202363

>>5202353
I have no fucking idea what the point of spambots is. Sometimes I would get followed by random people with these Indian looking photos and thousands of follows.

>> No.5202388

>>5202353
Block bots. You don’t want your Twitter stats showing you’re being followed by 60% fake accounts.

>> No.5202395

>>5202363
I dont only mean real spam bots but I see artist, who are just ok, spam follow people and unfollow when not followed back and I just wonder, what is the point? Getting tons of fake followers seems so stupid.

>>5202388
Thanks for the advice, will do so. I don't have any followers yet anyway, just started a new account mostly to follow good artists.

>> No.5202401

>>5202353
If its artists following and unfollowing, they're expecting people to follow back, in which case they will unfollow anyways. It's a shitty way of artificially increasing their follower count.

For bots, idk man they're bots, they do their bot thing. Just block em

>> No.5202417

>>5202395
Oh artists do that because it advertises their profile to you. On Instagram they mass like shit based on tags like #drawing, when you get a like you get a notification unless you turned them off, so you check their profile and maybe follow them.
It's basically just saying that you exist and getting people to look at your profile.

>> No.5202443

>>5202353
Social media addiction. Why do you think some people get excited that they "ratio'd" someone they don't like

>> No.5202446
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5202446

>not every good at drawing
>can't really practice lately because I'm pouring all my work into making a videogame and I have to draw placeholders for it
>get hit by some really strong inspiration today and draw a stupid meme even though I shouldn't
>takes me like 2 fucking hours
>turned out pretty good by my (awful, 2000s deviantart level) standards
>post it in a thread
>get two responses, one of them just calling it disgusting
>massive regret over wasting so much fucking time, barely got any actual work done today
At least it was practice I guess. And no I'm not going to post it.

>> No.5202469

my dreams are cruewl I just wanted a kiss from my bf instead I get jumbled mess of memories that make no coherent sense if i'm gong to be dead for 6 to 7 hours at least let me dream about making out

>> No.5202482

>>5202417
I used to spam like everything in the #doodle tag on Instagram for this same reason, so I can second this. When I was 15ish I got ~300 followers in a week just doing that. They were probably inactive follows though, so prolly not worth

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5202490

How do I not get discouraged when I'm doing bad at drawing? I can get the ball rolling, but as soon as I start having problem solving issues and my flow is broken I just wanna give up and stop

>> No.5202499
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5202499

I love them so much.

>> No.5202520

At the beginning of the year I told to myself "I'm gonna focus on fundies learn new mediums until june,then I just draw for two months"
But I feel now that I'm about to burnout,my draftmanship and observational abilities went down lately and I try to learn how to paint digitally but it's frustrating for now because I don't understand the mechanics.
Maybe it's the learning curve,I don't know.But that hit my moral.
I'm gonna have a few days of vacation,maybe this will be the right time to reevaluate my schedule for this year.

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5202531

Ah, the dopameme hit you get when someone praises your drawing, it will be gone in a minute and leave you craving more, but it feels so good.

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5202700

>Want to buy brush bundle for PS
>find a cool one
>read license condition
You may use the product for :
>Up to 5,000 physical or digital end products for sale
>One business social media account owned and managed by the licensee
>Broadcast and streaming for up to 500,000 lifetime viewers
>Cannot be used for native apps, web apps, or games

Man, what are all these conditions I just want to find a nice lineart brush to use for years to come

>> No.5202715

I feel real confident about my art and the progress i'm making but everytime i post online seeing how bad my posts i feel i'll never have any hope of financial success.
I feel i have to change my personality to make it

>> No.5202721

>>5202700
get the bundle, change size of every brush by 1px and rename them

>> No.5202724

>>5202446
post it

>> No.5202781

lol all these poor Japanese artists on twitter tweeting their destroyed bedrooms from the earthquake.

>> No.5203600

Huh?

>> No.5203657
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5203657

>be /beg/
>get a part time job
>spend every penny on art education
>several thousand dollars on video courses and books
>become /int/
>realize all I needed was Loomis in the first place

>> No.5203782

I am going to give up the dream and go back to uni bros...

>> No.5203799

>draw anime fanart
>post on pixiv
>feel like a fraud and a disgusting westernpig piece of garbage
>anxiety and panic

>can actually read/write nipponese and no one has any reason to think i'm westerner, know objectively that i'm not great but not nearly as bad as the majority of posts there

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>> No.5203834

>>5201761
Beats me why, but I can't seem to concentrate on art theory books. I read a few lines and I just seem to zone out and forget whatever I just read. It doesn't happen with any other genre either, just art books.

>> No.5203946

>>5201761
Why do chilean bitches talk weird?
>I WANT TO DIE UWU IS HARD
>IS SO DIFFICULT TO DRAW BRINGS A TEAR TO MY EYE
Dumb fucking cunt. It's pronounced IT IS not IS you fucking bitch.

>> No.5203967

>>5203946
that sounds pretty cute. brazilian girls talk in that really calming, cutesy way too

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>>5201761
I feel like I fail at everything I want to do

>> No.5204039

Stop retweeting your ugly ass drawings. We both know no one within your 30 followers will make an effort to promote your shit.

>> No.5204154

i drew art of an artist's oc since their design is cute, but idk how to actually give it to the artist without it sounding like i want something back from them

am i overthinking it and dming them my art with the message "hey your oc is cute so i drew him" is fine?

>> No.5204156

>>5204154
I don't think it's bad. They'll probably say some variation of "that's cool!" and that'll be it, assuming they aren't autistic.

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5204426

I know he follows like 1000 people but this meant a lot to me.
I look up to him :)

>> No.5204498

>>5201761
i love that anime

>> No.5204506

>>5204426
Krinj

>> No.5204613

>>5201773
Add more joke characters to keep the motivation alive. Some mangaka actually said that

>> No.5204616

>>5201869
Maybe just weak imagination. Drawing from imagination is probably a huge pain in the ass for you

>> No.5204617

>>5201761
I wish I had an art friend.

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>>5203997
Don't waste a good mistake. Learn from it

>> No.5204636

>>5204617
You’re better off

>> No.5204713

>>5204636
No I’m not. I’d rather try and potentially lose my art friend then to never have an art friend at all

>> No.5205219 [DELETED] 

I feel like running away. I don’t have much money left but I don’t have any friends and my parents, specifically my dad, just keeps making me feel worthless. Talking down to me and cursing me out because he’s stressed that my mom is making him stressed. Essentially using me as his outlet. My life isn’t going to get any better at this point. I’m going to get older and older and past trauma is going to keep resurfacing until I get away from his home and forget about everyone in my life.

I used to care about saving my equipment but I don’t care anymore. Everything can be thrown in the trash. I’ll just rip the hard drives out and take them. Everything else can just go in the dumpster. My iPad is all I need anyway. I want to forget and have no contact with these people.

>> No.5205414

Who /decent artist but should be better for how long they've been drawing/ here?

>> No.5205417

>>5202446
I would like to see your drawing, Anon.

>> No.5205464
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5205464

>>5202446
Post it, anon. I will be nice to it.

>> No.5205504

>>5205414
Me

>> No.5205512
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5205512

How do people draw without overcomplicating things and bothering with the end result

>> No.5205516

>>5205512
you DAB your problems away

>> No.5205533

>>5205516
DAB?

>> No.5205551 [DELETED] 

>>5205533
draw a box

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>>5205551
but I did this shit already like 2 years ago

>> No.5205559 [DELETED] 

>>5205557
boxify everything, you should know thatr by now

>> No.5205560

>>5203657
You can't say you weren't warned about that

>> No.5205588

I'm so fucking frustrated that I can't draw.
I've spent hours upon hours trying to learn how to draw and everytime I look up a piece of new artwork I just get saddened by how I could never draw like that.
Even still, I "just draw" and feel like shit because the end product looks awful and maybe 1 out of 10 pieces looks up to my standard. I thought about quitting but I just think how my art might look good someday and I can't.

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5205646

>>5202724
>>5205417
>>5205464
I won't post the actual drawing but here's something else I made. I'm not doing the "hurr I suck but I'm really good" meme.

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5205675

so lonely

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>>5205588
You and I, anon. We will get through this. I am not quitting only because I enjoy it like 1 times out of 5
Also nice dubs-dubs

>> No.5205693

>Learn in my 20s my life will be short
>okay.jpg
>Get depressed, drop out of college, start drawing
>Hey maybe this is my path, maybe this is what my life is for
>I'm not good though, so I work at it
>years later I'm decent enough to actually work
>everything has changed
>everything is anime
>there's porn everywhere
>everything else is hyper competitive digital stuff that I can't even wrap my head around
>social media marketing is literally as important as your work if you want to go direct with the public
at this point I know this goal is unreachable
I have no money, no skills or jobs to speak of in years
my life is pretty much over
sometimes I think when I was bullied and beaten by trailer trash in grade school and I thought that one day I'll somehow 'show em', leave this shit town, leave this shit country, this shit life
instead I never got anywhere like a fucking failure
I hate this world and this life and I don't want to get a job just to survive another day
so fuck it

>> No.5205695

>>5205675
No you’re not. You take enjoyment out of this, don’t you.

>> No.5205716

I'm feeling very tempted to buy Will Weston's new course on Drawing. I know I don't need it, but I can't stop thinking about it. I'm practically drooling over it.

>> No.5205762

>>5205693
If you got nothing to lose, then take the furry pill.
Enjoy success at the cost of your own sanity

>> No.5205763

>>5205646
not bad ngl
there is worst in the beg threads

>> No.5205765

>>5203657
i'm going through all the video courses and books and i'm slowly starting to realize that they're all practicallly the same
i was hoping for something more helpful and practical but all i could literally do is "Just Draw" and guess at what I should be doing

>> No.5205784

>>5205762
fuck off, you disgust me
I'm not even considering the whore route

>> No.5205821

>>5205765
ye, its all just form, perspective, construction, anatomy, gesture, composition... the plain fundamentals. Then you just do studies and draw from imagination.

>> No.5205858

>>5203657
youtube has been far more helpful than the paid stuff

>> No.5205863 [DELETED] 

>>5205858
pyw

>> No.5205943

A valentines day without my artbf is the worst feeling, you know?

>> No.5205960

>>5201773
where did you publish it? Did you have a following before? I want to start a webcomic myself

>> No.5205971

Another day, another page filled with low effort sketches and zero finished art to show.

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>>5205646
>I won't post the actual drawing
Do it.

>> No.5205984

>>5201761
There is nothing more luxurious than drawing

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>>5205821
i've gone through Reed's book and it's help me become more confident in drawing than i used to be
>it's in the Figuary threads if you're one of those people who like to spam pyw, look for it if you're that curious what my work looks like
so i was hoping that i would have something similar but nothing has come close

i just want some sort of system that i can build on, you know? like in Reed's book
every other video feels vague.
how do i do gesture? just do random lines?
it just feels strange and kind of just like "literally just draw" rather than try this technique and build from there

i've gone through 50 figure drawing books and only 1-2 of them seemed helpful and the rest are only useful to copy from.
it sucks that noone calls out these artists that do this

Mark Crilley, for example.
I wasted a whole 2 months with that asshole thinking that it would help and it didn't.
I don't know.
It's a vent thread so I'll just go on.

Personally, I hate when people who started drawing as kids try to teach people who started as adults. It just seems strange and it's extremely unhelpful because that's where you get advice like, "Just Draw" and then you wonder why most people on here aren't really that good.
It's not because people here are autistic or can't follow basic instructions, it's because "Just Draw" does absolutely nothing for an absolute beg. Same thing with a meme book like Loomis.

If someone were to sit down and create an actual structured approach that begs can build on, then this board would actually be full of high begs and ints rather than just begs and people who gave up drawing because they thought that because they couldn't follow with Loomis that they were garbage and would never make it.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

>> No.5206025

I've made far more money listening to /biz/ memecoin shills and stocks than I ever did on my art. I love art over most other things in my life, but the sad truth is it's devalued and it's going to keep devalued. Never depend just on it. My dream as a kid was making a living on art but it's not gonna happen. I feel bad for all those people asking for emergency commissions cause all they're gonna get is peanuts in their hardest times.

>> No.5206031

>>5206025
honestly, it's just better if you pursue as a hobby or for yourself
the same goes for programming
i feel like it will be highly devalued eventually once all the jobs start going to India or some other shit underdeveloped country

>> No.5206158

I can understand why self promotion is so hard if you aren’t making porn or fan art. I can accept that reality. But in the space between creatives and audiences there should be some sort of observant people with discerning and critical tastes, maybe we could call them ART CRITICS, who would take the time to discover and promote new things.

Too bad that doesn’t exist and we only have blue check marks who don’t give a fuck about anything other than obnoxious politics. Guess I’m putting the personal stuff on hiatus again and drawing more fan art.

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5206190

>in art school (yea yea I know waste of time yada yada)
>teacher's preparing a life drawing session
>starts talking and giving tips
>"yeah guys, just feel the... feels"
>Can only hear "feel the form", blink in startled horror
How common is "feel the form" as a phrase in art environments? Am I stupid or is my teacher a 4channer?

>> No.5206213

>>5206190
With how you worded how he speaks he definitely sounds like a 4channer my fucking sides, he's just literally spilling spaghetti

>> No.5206236

>>5206190
"feel the form" is extremely common in art environments. That just means think in 3D most of the time. That same applies to render and shading.

>> No.5206393

I left behind the only friends I've made since 2014 because I met them under a fake identity. I pretended to be a cute girl and drew cute things because I'm too ashamed to draw cute things normally. It was all lies. I hated faking it. I deleted the account a while ago and now I'm back to being alone.
People only like me when I'm being something I'm not.

>> No.5206398

>>5206025
>I feel bad for all those people asking for emergency commissions
You shouldn't, they are always roasties who want free extra cash handed to them because they have a cunt or male "allies" of a system who wants them dead.
I fucking hate professional beggars.

>> No.5206400

>>5206190
>Am I stupid
Yes, Vilppu says that and he exists outside of 4chan.

>> No.5206403

>>5206398
You can still pity the fool.

>> No.5206412

>>5202700
What the fuck am I reading
Is everything related to Ps jewish?

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5206419

I want to draw like this but I can't figure out if it's vector based or just regular drawing. Since they used flash to make all their art. They also used a mouse to draw. But I dont think I'd go that far and use mouse myself when I have a tablet.

If it's vector based, that can explain why in almost all images the artist manages to have the same size in all of their artwork (1920/1080, 999x999 or 1020x1000)

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5206421

>>5206419
Another example

>> No.5206437

>drawing
>enter the zone
>friend asks me to walk over to his house
>ok
>still so in the zone that I'm mentally out of it
>get nudged by a car (very luckily not knocked into the street)
I am retarded.
>>5206419
Could be achieved with either. Either you A) use vector and play with the line weights after drawing or B) use raster with a very steep pressure curve (so pressing fairly lightly will make the pen as thick as possible)
If you need to use mouse A) is better, otherwise either works.

>> No.5206449

>>5206437
>Either you A) use vector and play with the line weights after drawing
Does this mean i draw everything in same size, but then I select few lines like the eyes for example and make them smaller?

Does this mean I could use like a 3000x3000 canvas to draw it, then resize without any compression if it's vector. Which judging by your statement, it's vector based?

I know SAI 2 has a linework/vector tool so maybe I can stick to SAI 2 instead of using flash to draw. But considering my autism and obsession with things and wanting to be as good as possible, maybe I should just use mouse instead with flash.

>> No.5206515

How do you even have a conversation with a girl? Or even someone who might be your friend? Am I doomed to be alone?

>> No.5206585

>>5206412
I'm the anon you replied to
It's just the site who sells these bundles that has shit license conditions, I've read their terms and I found that you can get free use of the bundle only if you pay the "extended commercial license" which costs around 90$ compared to the regular commercial which is half of that

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Thank you Jews and all old Jewish guys for being artists. I am forever in your debt.

>> No.5206705

>>5206158
post your instagram anon, keep doing your personal work

>> No.5206753

>>5206515
Pretend that they are just boys with nice tits; the conversation will flows naturally as long as you kept your intention unromantic

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5206756

>>5206515
Disregard women.
You will suffer profoundly unless you are hot enough to get them to simp for you (you aren't).

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5206877

>10k followers and yet no one to answer my questions

>> No.5207037

>>5205588
help me

>> No.5207115

Imagine being a week one beginner for over 10 years. That’s me. Only God knows why I haven’t given up yet. >>5207037

>> No.5207119

>>5206515
Just lift and it will happen, I promise

>> No.5207131

An old guy asked for directions and I guess he wanted me to give him $2 for the bus....felt bad he walked away in this weather.

>> No.5207147

>>5207037
How? Most of us feel the exact same way. Even if you reach pro level you'll probably find something different to aspire to and the ride never ends.

>>5206877
Ten thousand whos when all you need is a friend. The future sucks balls.

>> No.5207185

>>5206515
if you are good at drawing you can use that in conversation to show them you're unique/interesting/valuable
just yesterday i started a conversation with a girl and started flirting with her implying i could draw her/she should model for me after we meet up. She responded with saying she always wish she could be drawn nude etc. That shit drives them nuts for real.

>> No.5207187
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5207187

I will be 25 soon and only now I'm beginning to feel like a real human being, is that normal? I can't believe how autistic I was just few months ago

>> No.5207195

>>5207187
Congrats on the fully formed brain dude

>> No.5207206

>>5207185
but that only worked for me because i wasn't trying to brag about myself for being special, i was using it to turn the attention towards her and make her feel special/excited for having that opportunity of doing something she's never done before, someone drawing her intimately and making her feel extra pretty/sexy.

if you go into the convo just talking about how you like how shitty anime characters then of course that will probably turn them off

>> No.5207209

>>5207187
Put that big old melon to good use chum, welcome to the long slow descent

>> No.5207228
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5207228

my problem is that im drawing for fun and not enough studies to learn, and so i make the same mistakes again and again. in my last sketch i saw that i made the girl's torso too short in the initial sketch but i was having fun and i was in the zone so i just kept going with it. but this sketch was in 5 point perspective. so you have to get proportion right in the sketch because you cant fix that at the end without pulling it out of perspective or just completely redoing it.

And yet i just do it anyway. fucking insatiable inferior limbic system. and then i spent three more days rendering it, and in the end, the background looks nice and the girl looks like a well rendered midget.

i do the same thing with composition. thats something you have to nail in step 1. loosely sketch something out in the right spot on your canvas before anything else, before you even place vanishing points, before anything.

intellectually i know that and yet... i never do. at least i have stopped giving people advice. that's the best thing i have done on ic, is stopped giving people my bad advice that i don't even follow.

>> No.5207324

>>5206236
>>5206400
Then you would've thought he would say "feel the form" instead of trailing off and correcting himself. It seemed a bit like he was used to it being used in a manner outside of art and wasn't sure if it was appropriate or not

>> No.5207326

I hate you all with the intensity of a thousand suns. I wish a god existed so you'd get some retribution for being so shit.

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5207337

>smarmy asshole from art school liked one of my instagram posts.
>seeing name brought back a bunch of memories from 10 years ago.
>very talented, but extremely smarmy. golden child of the department.
>clicked see what he's been up to
>nothing. he's completely fallen off since then.
>doesn't look like he's made anything in 3 years
>mostly tweets. clearly miserable.
>mfw

>>5207326
hardly needs an act of god since the shitty people here are self-sabotaging. chill out though

>> No.5207348

how do i overcome my anxiety when trying to draw something for a friend?

>> No.5207379
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5207379

>Spend hours drawing something
>50 upvotes
>Someone makes a meme out of a screen shot in 20 seconds using ms paint
>3000 up votes
It's not fucking fair I hate normies so much these memes are fucking "reddit tier" so I guess it makes sense

>> No.5207384

>>5207187
im 20 and i've felt this way every year of my life for as long as i can remember.
the me of a year ago always feels like an absolute dipshit compared to present me

i kinda dread the day i don't feel this way tbdesu, feels like that's how i know i've stopped making progress

>> No.5207385

>>5207379
1. find your audience
2. stop being pretentious
3. learn how to actually connect with people

>> No.5207394

>>5207384
honestly its better to learn to become a better person later in life
being trying to constantly being a better and giving person so early in your life just leaves you in a state of feeling like you've never been given your due and that the world has just ended up taking from you because you've spent so much time giving yourself to it
its okay to be selfish once in your life

>> No.5207425

>>5207348
hard question to say the least, If you're good friends with them they'll definitely understand its hard as shit to draw. I dont know your circumstances, your art gains, your relationship to them cause thats all I can say fren. If both of you guys have the time you could just screen share them while you draw to see how the drawing process works, they'll be impressed to say the least even if its a little bit potato.
Don't worry so much anon he's your friend, can't say the same for internet friends those types are usually soulless bugs

>> No.5207436

>>5207348
never really goes away just always remember all you an do is create something to the best of your ability, they are friends with you because they like what you do. its normal to be anxious, it is because you care a lot about them.

>> No.5207445

>>5207425
i'm not great, but i do well enough for when i draw my own stuff. i can just think of my sketches by themselves and get immersed into them without caring.
thinking about my friends or someone else just gives me so much anxiety i feel like i can't draw anything.
like put me in a room for 30 minute figure drawing session and i can give you sub-beg figures. tell me to draw a friend for 5 hours and i can barely draw a circle.
my friends. its a mixed bag
they're all better than me and a lot of these friends are kind of used to drawing for each other so not only does my art just feels meager compared to them, but i feel like i can't ever make something they'll like unless its a dumb shitpost

>> No.5207460

>>5207445
Oh they arent actual normal people, yup better just grind anon

>> No.5207472

>>5207147
>Most of us feel the exact same way
is this true

>> No.5207489

>>5205588
start simpler
and i don't mean go from full bodies to torsos, i mean go down to squashes

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>>5207472
yes dude
your problem is you're not learning in the way that works for you
you're holding on to advice that didn't work for you
and 3 your scope is small in your resources
gather resources (horde even) and try what works for you.

>> No.5207504

I follow the "OC" threads because I know all the art and designs in them will be terrible. It lets me know what not to do.

>> No.5207523

i tell myself I should die every day

>> No.5207542

>>5207523
you deserve better than that

>> No.5207569

I feel physically sick when I think about how much I don't know and it makes me not even want to draw.

>> No.5207575

>>5207569
take the 100 hour perspective course
its so cracked full of persepctive knowledge that most people don't even know that you'll never have to feel behind again

>> No.5207591

>>5207542
Thanks, but these bad feelings won't go away, and as I get older they get more intense.

>> No.5207600

>>5207575
wheres the course

>> No.5207733

>>5207600
nma

>> No.5208142

Every time I draw anything it's distorted or skewed
I can't even do the loomis heads without having to flip the image autistically like 20 times to.fix it and I'm starting to think I'm just retarded

>> No.5208147

>>5208142
>having to flip the image autistically like 20 times to.fix it
I believe this is the norm, unless I am also retarded. In which case get fucked ur retarded lol

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5208189

i keep wasting money

>> No.5208513

I'm really tired. There's nothing left to do. I thought I had it. I thought I wanted it. It seems that wasn't the case. I have no distance left to run.

>> No.5208520

Can I follow or like an artist even if their DNI list says I'm not allowed to interact? I feel a bit guilty about it, but I assume it means nothing. :(
>>5208189
What do you waste money on?

>> No.5208525

I want to do so many things that I either feel I'll never make progress in any of of them and think it makes no sense to even try or actually try but get so overwhelmed by my schedule that I eventually burn out. Either way I end up doing nothing at all.

>> No.5208580

>>5208520
I subscribed to new masters again even though I pirated almost everything they have.

>> No.5208616

>>5207379
What a horrible time to live in, where everything boils down to likes or money. And it's not like a sane person would want to have a dialogue or form a community with this shit public of entitled brats who look at others like something to consume, or other "artists" who now think of anything creative or sincere as something embarrassing?
Why would you even try to make art at all if it's guaranteed to have so little worth to the algorithms and people themselves that it will be virtually invisible? It's so awful that you can only think of success in business terms, there is no impacting people any longer, you can't touch anyone's heart or truly inspire them to something, or give them something they will keep with themselves. All you can make is a temporary pacifier to consume and maybe jerk off to in one's spare time.

>> No.5208633

>>5208616
This is the truth.
You can't escape it either, they will find any refuge you make and commodify, modernize, trivialize, until they've assimilated as many as they can, and driven away the dwindling remainder of people just trying to escape this nightmare where we exist as living breathing products.

>> No.5208638

My well being and mind would be different if I never left my childhood neighborhood and went to a different middle school with all my friends. It was a big mistake moving south.

>> No.5208645

>>5208633
who is they? people did this, people created this situation
this shit is what the saints and sages of the past warned us about, but eventually it was too much of a problem to listen to them because comforts and pleasures became too convenient and addictive.

>> No.5208664
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5208664

I draw every day yet have a hard time finishing pieces
When I do I don't even bother posting them, not even here. They just sit there in my folder.

I don't get any feedback or critique anyway.

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5208678

>>5201761
I don’t get “vent” threads

Can someone explain it to me, please, desu

>> No.5208680

This dumb character only has one eye and I keep drawing it on the wrong side when I'm sketching.

>> No.5208686

>>5208664
Implying any feedback you'd get nowadays isn't something like "I COOM AAA OOGA BOOGA"

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>>5206704
You could say that

>> No.5208721
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5208721

This is hard to explain, but I feel like I've become embarrassed by my "Original Characters". I'm not going to make a comic or anything of substance with them anytime soon so they feel like 'dead space' or something. It also seems like most artists tend to draw random characters in their pieces without getting overly attached to them, so I wanted to find ways to take a break away from my characters and perhaps just do random subjects? I don't know, I think I'm having a huge art identity crises at the moment and feel overly pressured by other artists and how they present themselves.

>> No.5208730

>>5208721
stop using twitter, do your own thing for a while. looks great

>> No.5208731

>>5208730
Not my drawing, I should've specified that; my bad. Thank you for the advice.

>> No.5208781

Do you have examples of roadmap to learn digital painting effectively?

>> No.5209018
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5209018

I FUCKING HATE WORKING DIGITALLY. I HATEITHATEITHATEIT TO MY CORE.
it's not that i can't do digital art. i've worked digitally, sometimes exclusively, for years. vectors, 3d, pixel art, you name it. i i know the basics
it's not my tablet. i own a decent cintiq. i've spent hours of work time tweaking my express key settings to personal preferences.
it's not that i don't like the digital aesthetic. admittedly, there's some cheap overlay lighting tricks i'm sick of, because i know the effect took ten seconds to create. but overall, i enjoy the clean, polished look.
it's not that i don't like working on a computer. i prefer writing on a computer. shit, i even make most of my music on a computer, although i own a physical keyboard. like most of the autists here, i live online.
it's not that my digital art looks worse than my traditional art. if it did, there would be no problem. but my digital work is so much better. especially the colors, because of course. and the perspective.
so then why does the feel of a drawing tablet make me recoil? why do cheap shit crayons instill in me a joy that the most expensive industry standard art program could never invoke?
the only way to bury down this feeling is to force myself to use a drawing tablet, and not allow as much a pencil sketch. but it never goes away completely.
i don't have any "artistic spirit." i just want to make stuff that looks good fast. so digital is the obvious choice. especially for things like animation and visual novels.
buyers prefer it too.
BUT I HATE IT.

>> No.5209199

>>5209018
So you tell me that you can be good at something without enjoying it? :D

>> No.5209250

Why couldn't I be born a south Korean? Why did God give me the body of an African? Is this punishment for my last life?

>> No.5209263

My new job has me coming in at 3 am. Which sucks because I usually draw at night. Cant look for a new job too much competition.

>> No.5209543

>>5209250
what the fuck is wrong with you? Be proud of your heritage.

>> No.5209554

>>5209250
>African
Lmao same

>> No.5209669

>>5209250
You should never hate yourself. It's the worst crime against life. Always be proud of yourself and if you don't like something then change it.

>> No.5209851

>>5209250
>Is this punishment for my last life?
unironically yes

>> No.5209903

>>5209851
are you mormon?

>> No.5210152

My posts never get any critiques or anything in the /beg/ thread :(

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5210162

>>5210152
dont worry anon
unless you're already good, you'll always get the generic "Loomis" reply anyway
people here are never going to give you critique worth listening to so dont bother worry about shit like that

either 1, you're so beg that people dont want to waste their time with you and prefer to give you unhelpful and blanket statements like "Loomis" or "anatomy"

or you're so good that /ic/ wouldn't even be able to give you any advice that you couldn't have figures out yourself

you could be in the middle which is when people actually give you critique but it's mostly garbage and unhelpful critique

TLDR: /ic/ is meaningless for critique, good for shitposting

>> No.5210165

>>5210162
blog?

>> No.5210172

>>5210162
Loomis is what took me out of beg retard

>> No.5210178

how is your day?

>> No.5210183

>>5210162
BLOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>> No.5210213

>>5201901
suw?

>> No.5210299

My sibling found a frozen bird and they tried to revive it.

They gave it to me but it's obviously dead (tried reviving with blow dryer, putting it in front of space heater. Also its eyes are open and sunken).

I'm going to draw the dead body because this is pretty close to a fresh bird as I can get.

Anyway my cat tried to eat it.

>> No.5210350

I hate that I still check this board. I don't visit 4chan any longer except for this board where I don't even post anything, I just read the general atmosphere and get depressed as fuck. All because I secretly hope that I will get a pass to another reality where everything is better and I cannot miss it. I know this subconscious drive and I know it's delusional, but I just have to check. I hate this place, it's everything I hate about the internet and internet art packed in the same space. The people are awful. The threads are shit. This is the opposite of what I'd like but I keep visiting because every other place is worse and I don't want to be completely on my own. At least here I feel like I exist in the context of "art".

>> No.5210358

>>5210350
What exactly is so awful about everyone you whiny bitch?

>> No.5210388

>>5210299
gmi

>> No.5210593

I am really afraid of using references and get accused of tracing when I am not. I am also afraid of drawing something from imagination and make it extremely similar to other pre existing piece of art. Can someone help me with this? I need to change my mindset. This is making me incapable of drawing

>> No.5210612

>sketched faces look nothing like painted faces
wtf is wrong with me? not even sure how to describe it but when i sketch they look like proper actual adults/teens, and then somehow the paint works out to a childish girl-face. i think i can't translate my sketch style into my paint style without moving everything around and distorting it when i'm laying in the forms.
>>5210299
kek

>> No.5210616

>>5210593
i have this same issue. i'm scared of drawing from reference and some autists posts the photo i used and goes like, "haha look at this jobber, he just did a paintover!" my only solution is to look for references in another language. gives me a different set of what autists would find with a search.

>> No.5210617

>>5210593
Ok but what exactly happens after you get accused? A bunch of irrelevant teens badger you for 3 days before their attention span runs dry? What exactly are you expecting to happen.

>> No.5210643

>>5201761
God I hate /u/niggers.

>> No.5210644

>>5210350
>All because I secretly hope that I will get a pass to another reality

What. This some isekai shit? Balamb Garden?
I genuinely have no idea what youre trying to say.

>> No.5210648

>>5210617
Not sure at all, I mean is not something terrible. I just don't want people to think I'm a piece of shit if I wasn't using a reference. Something like
>>5210616 says

>> No.5210701

>>5210648
?? If you saw an artist getting accused of tracing on twitter or whatever, would you actually believe it unless you could perfectly overlay several of their works over other pictures?
>Nooooo but what if....
Then social media isn't for you.

>> No.5210712

>>5210701
>>5210648
i mean idk
>draw animu fanart but use a photo as reference
>still panic and feel guilty
what is this? and that's when i'm not even tracing. i totally do paintovers of landscapes for backgrounds, but that doesn't give me a panic like using a pose reference does.

>> No.5210716

>>5210701
Okay thank you. You are right I am always thinking about stupid "what if" scenarios. I need to get my shit together and keep drawing

>>5210712
Maybe you don't like the feeling of needing "help" (using references).

>> No.5210743

>>5210172
larping fag that has been drawing since childhood
or
/beg/

>> No.5210746

>>5210743
pyw

>> No.5210747

>>5210743
miserable man

>> No.5210751

I cant begin to accurately express how much I hate myself. As a person. As an artist. I am my work. I hate my work. The good, and the bad.

>> No.5210756

Is it true that you should study construction and anatomy of different body parts before attempting to study gesture and poses?
Drawing/studying gesture isn't doing shit for me if i can't even draw body parts decently.

>> No.5210772
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5210772

>Work full-time job as a militaryfag
>Boring as all fuck but the benefits are really good
>Trying to draw 2 hours a day now at least (hoping to get 20 hours a week in)
>Also joined the military because I didn't want to go to college
>Boss tells me some shit about "it's not required but it's required"
>Okay fine I'll go to school part time or something
>Ask friend who's also doing college online how many hours a week he spend on it
>20 fucking hours for one class
There's no actual way I can do college without cutting drawing time, which is absolutely the last fucking thing I want to do for more than like a week. Why the fuck do these boomers even care if I have the stupid degree if I already know how to do my job?

>> No.5210785

>>5210756
mmm, you should be doing figure studies. Get in a habit of doing 5 min - 10 min poses daily (or every other day). Then study anatomy on the side. This way you practice everything at once while pinpointing your weaknesses.

>> No.5210831

>>5210756
the level you're now gesture should just be pure motion of the pose and proportion
if you're having trouble with construction start drawing basic shapes
anatomy, right now you should at least be aware of landmarks

take Art and Science of Drawing. its the best /beg/ course. covers ever absolute basic that self taught people might have missed for whatever reason

>> No.5210873

>>5210831
>take Art and Science of Drawing. its the best /beg/ course. covers ever absolute basic that self taught people might have missed for whatever reason

Not the guy you were replying to, but is this an enrollment only kinda thing, or can I find it somewhere?

>> No.5210881

>learned perspective/volume drawing
>draw bg sketch, do lineart
>alright, time to color
>absolutely dumbfounded again

I literally just have such a hard time picking colors and intensity/saturation, damn.

>> No.5210883

I managed to get a some views with a meme-ish trendy drawing but only 2 new followers which are both bots. why do they exist wtf

>> No.5210887

>>5210881
no, you just need to color a lot. Eventually you get used to knowing what your drawings will look like with colors. If you're just doing flat colors, almost anything goes, the only rule is to compositionally bring your eye to the right place with contrasts. Not even color palettes are that important.

>> No.5210889

>>5210887
I have been reading it, but putting it into practice myself is pretty challenging. Like, if i do a complimentary color scheme for a bg, i cant decide on which area should be color 1, and which color 2. (the warmer color the floor or wall, or the cooler cooler floor/wall). And they both look kinda good but im not sure good.

>> No.5210907

Going to take a long rest bc of carpal tunnel.
How long until symptoms dissapear?

>> No.5210957

I just want to be friends who share my interests sincerely without memes or quirky bullshit or shipping. I wanna talk about the intricacies of my favorite characters psyches, discuss alternate outcomes, and draw beautiful fanart that is neither coombait nor shitposting. Finding someone who likes the same stuff is hard enough. Finding someone who likes the same stuff and has a compatible personality is impossible.

>> No.5210961

>>5210957

No you don’t.

>> No.5210962

>>5210889
There's a rule of thumb designers use when it comes to colors called the 60/30/10 rule. 60% of one hue, 30% of a second hue, and 10% of an accent hue. Maybe it'll help you with your color placement. Remember to consider the big picture at a distance, and study painting composition to create balance.

>> No.5211506

>>5210957
As much as it would be nice to find that 'perfect match' (ironic as you mentioned don't want shipping) making friends with different tastes will also make you grow as a person. For example, I hated gays just as much as the next anon but I met a gay coworker and he was the funniest person I met in my life and his topics he blurted out were interesting to the point I would write down what he and other people were mumbling about. Some of my colleagues had what I considered "normie" taste in music but being forced to listen to their music everyday started to make me open up and look more into the artists and I fell in love with their taste in music.

As much as I hate being around others and despite humans, making bonds like that is way better than trying to find that perfect half you keep talking about.

>> No.5211524

>>5210957
What do you like?

>> No.5211606

All these videos I missed from 2019 makes it feel like what the hell happened to the time because of the pandemic. Or rather I should be blaming the algorithms.

>> No.5211786

I don't know how to regain the confidence to show my art around. I feel always so ashamed for no specific reason.

>> No.5211978
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Being on this anonymous board turned me into a piece of human garbage. I didn't realize how much insulting stuff I said just automatically, without even realizing it. I'm sorry, everyone. I didn't mean to hurt you guys

>> No.5211983

>>5211978
faggot

>> No.5211985

>>5211978
dont' feel too bad anon. at this point it's common knowledge anyone who gets hurt over being insulted on the internet shouldn't use 4chan.

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5211996

I literally can't stop masturbating and it's giving me a ton of face acne
I think my brain is fully rotten

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5212003

I'm such a talentless peice of shit.
I was way under skilled when I went to [art college] and I was certain I was just let in to fill some kind of diversity quota even my professors told me that I should just drop out and I got a lot of the harshest critique since the course work was often too much for me to manage.
I was already at such a low point and failing at this has only set me lower.
I feel like such a failure peice of shit for not being able to make it and having to drop out.

My art has plateaued so much since too. I can barely bring myself to finish any drawings I start if I can even bring myself to sit at my desk. My well of ideas and enthusiasm feels like it has almost completely dried up as well it's all blank.

I feel like such a price of shit

>> No.5212012

>>5211996
ive had 3 wet dreams this week

>> No.5212018

>>5212012
ive had blank dreams for a year now

>> No.5212019

>>5211996
Stop watching porn or find an 8-high to practice somersaults from.

>> No.5212038

>>5211978
It's ok anon, people always deserve to be insulted. You may not know why, but they know.

>> No.5212061

>dating guy who wants to know more about me
>he knows i'm into anime, doesn't know i actually draw fanart
>not sure if should show him
>don't even draw fujo content or lewds, and am better than him (he also draws, but casually), just kind of anxious about it
cleaning up my page and putting new content up, still insecure and deciding yes/no on showing him. he'd probably be delighted but idk.then he'll always be like, "hey you draw anything lately? what cha drawing now?" sends my anxiety through the roof.

>> No.5212070

>>5211506
>>5211524
I'm not looking for a perfect match, I don't need someone who likes everything I do, just someone who likes at least something that I like. I have friends already, and we have meaningful discussions about real world topics and that's great. But I don't have a single friend who likes any of the things that I'm passionate about, and I can't get any of them interested despite trying my best to show them the appeal. I'm not socially autistic or anything, I know boundaries and cues and manners. But I might be internally autistic about my interests because of how intricately/thoroughly I obsess over some things.
I'm open to new stuff, a friend recently got me back into WWE because he's a fan. But no one ever seems to find my interests appealing even tho it's tame shit like oldschool video games and tv shows. I can't even get them to humor me, it's like they'd rather talk about anything else.
I've looked online since real life isn't working out. It's not impossible to find someone online to talk about these things, it's why I still come here. But what seems impossible is finding someone who loves those things comparably to how I love them.
The majority of fans are surface level. Fujos turn everything gay, coomers want the waifus to show bobs, normies only care if you make them laugh. But I wanna explore the fucked up stuff, the what-ifs, and what it would be like to experience the crazy shit. Just something sincere without worrying about being cringe for fucks sake. I wish 4chan wasn't so full of schizos and baiting emotionally stunted retards. There have been anons I would have taken a chance to befriend but the odds that they're unstable are too high for me.

>> No.5212133

>>5210907
Depends on how bad your injuries are. Wait until the pain stops, then wait a little more. Remember to do stretches nightly.

>> No.5212143

I am so fucking done right now

>> No.5212144

fuck these retarded youtubers using anime screencaps from episodes I haven't even watched yet fucking hell

>> No.5212147

>>5212143
And fuck you. Suck my fucking dick you pretend loner. You think you're ooh sooo sophisticated and simply can't be understood. Yeah whatever. My balls bitch.

>> No.5212179

>>5212147
kek

>> No.5212207

>>5201869
>am I NGMI?
if you have to ask

>> No.5212291

>>5212070
I feel exactly the same. I don't know if our interests are remotely compatible, for starters I'm not a fan of WWE and I draw my own things. But if you want to have a chat about art just leave a throwaway contact (better if not Discord). Breaching anonymity can be uncomfortable so I understand if you don't want to.
I post here occasionally but I feel very out of place. I think I only stay here to avoid what you described. I don't care about skill level, but I'm intermediate for all it's worth.

>> No.5212447

>>5205646
loomis

>> No.5212463

>>5211996

It hurts to cum

>> No.5212546

>>5212291
I went through the trouble of writing the vent post I might as well give you a chance. Not sure what kind of contact to give you though, you could try this
y99.in/r/259437

>> No.5212613

>>5212546
won't load, nvm

>> No.5212617

>>5212070
>But I wanna explore the fucked up stuff, the what-ifs, and what it would be like to experience the crazy shit.
Maybe you can find some fanfiction autists of stuff you like, chance of fujo is high though.

>> No.5212633

>>5212617
I've tried this but the majority are in fact fujos and twitterfag schizos who can't separate fiction from reality

>> No.5212648

>>5212633
How do you expect fandoms to behave maturely?

>> No.5212659

>>5212648
I don't, it's why I don't engage in "fandoms" I just browse. Finding interesting people through fanfics was simply a bust

>> No.5212666

>>5212659
Try to form a community of your own, it's the only way to get anything done. But chances are you'll be disappointed.

>> No.5212676

>>5212070
>wants to discuss fanfic shit without being insane
Jesus dude. Just take the sanitypill and become a writer and think about original things if it matters that much to you. Or try tabletop RPGs or something and homebrew games out of whatever setting you like, plenty of crazies there too though.

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>>5212676
>Or try tabletop RPGs
>plenty of crazies there too though.
there are only crazies there

>> No.5212699

>>5212666
Thanks satan, but yeah I don't think that's viable. All I want's a friend or two who I can exchange fanart with or collab with or something.

>>5212676
I'm already a writer and make original content, but I go stir crazy only thinking about my personal projects all the time. I like to expand my knowledge and interests through media and I fall in love with concepts and ideas. I've never gotten into tabletop stuff or roleplay I wouldn't know where to start

>> No.5212741

>>5212683
It seems like the only group I've come across that didn't have any crazies were Japanese artists. I'm not an animefag or anything but I've met some westaboos and they've all been chill as fuck with a shit ton of creativity. Strictly Japanese though, the Korean westaboos were easily offended.

>> No.5212858

>>5212699
>>5212741
Well that chat thing didn't work on me, but if you want to leave a contact we'd probably get along. I like to talk about concepts and ideas and I think we can't be too divergent on tastes according to what you said.

>> No.5212905
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I'm so lazy. I'm trying to take time to draw actual drawings, to draw things I like, but I don't know a lot more than basic motor skills, eh perspective and eh form. When I sit down to do an actual drawing there are so many elements to it that I'm not good at, so much that takes so much thinking. The amount of work scares me so I give up quickly.
I have a drive to draw, I can tell I do now, but there's so much I don't know; it's scary. I just want to have fun for a while.

>> No.5213106

>>5212858
I got locked out of twitter trying to make a throwaway account to share, perhaps it's not meant to be anon

>> No.5213111

>>5213106
perhaps. well, good luck

>> No.5213140

>>5213111
You can try uglybutterbean on Instagram if you want, since twitter decided to be a bitch tonight

>> No.5213150

>>5212905
Then you're not ready to draw actual things. It's fine to take your time before starting a finished piece. Might even help to doodle whatever useless thought you have into a sketchbook to help you flesh out ideas/loosen some anxiety

>> No.5213174

Christ, this board gets worse every time I come back to it. Every hobby board seems to be populated by single-digit IQ faggots who don't know anything about the hobby, but /ic/ is easily the worst out of them all. How many times can you post the same retarded questions, get answers and still not improve? I'm convinced that the main body of posters are faggots like the idea of being an artist more than actually drawing anything

>> No.5213180

>>5213174
stfu pompous retard

>> No.5213209

>>5213174
pyw or you're just like the begs in here

>> No.5213231

>>5213174
You aren't wrong. I lurk here most of the time and everything u said has truth in it.

>> No.5213254

>>5213174
im trying to phase out /ic/ with reddit art subs and discord. Seems like a healthier environment. The "walking on eggshells" feeling people get is just them not being used to being polite and understanding.

>> No.5213265

>>5213174
you're under the impression that /ic/ always has the same number of people asking the same questions
there's a new /beg/ every day

>> No.5213326

>>5213254
/ic/ is not a good art community, it's a shitposting community so your mistake was taking it for anything other than that. As for other healthier communities, I'd say that there aren't many unfortunately. Your best bet is going on pro-heavy discords and going into voice chat as often as you can. Lightbox discord is pretty good and always has people in it. If you need critique or advice just ask and they'll answer pretty honestly.

>> No.5213376

i hate my style

>> No.5213445
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5213445

Drawing really does help deal with the pain

>> No.5213448

>>5213326
those are good ideas, thanks

>> No.5213449

>>5213174
>I'm convinced that the main body of posters are faggots like the idea of being an artist more than actually drawing anything
Pretty much, don't forget the people who think that it's easy magical cash

>> No.5213729

How the hell am I supposed to be creative when I'm not a insane person? I love surreal shit but I'm as bland as fucking toast.

>> No.5213884

>>5213729
Have you tried being less fucking boring? Having more experiences IRL that could shape your creative decisions?

>> No.5213982

I caught the social media retardation and now feel sad when my shitty pictures don't get any traction. I wish I would have just continued to draw for myself and never put anything online, but now I can't get off the dopameme ride.

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>>5213982

>> No.5214021

>>5214004
Well, that's a nice way of looking at things, thanks fren.

>> No.5214254

>>5214004
>If I were playing blues in the underground station and I happened to be in 30 people's visual field while I played, I would be overwhelmed!
I fucking hate this faux clickbait reddit optimism so much

>> No.5214378

i dont draw

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5214392

my reddit comment got downvoted

>> No.5214394

>>5214392
post it here and i'll upvote fren

>> No.5214413

A messenger came to me in a vision last night. He wasn't like any of the people I've dreamt of before, it was like he had a mind of his own. It was so fucking surreal it woke me up in the middle of the night which never happens outside of nightmares. He kept appearing unexpectedly throughout the dream until he finally pulled me aside to speak with me. The shit he told me was so arcane I'm afraid to repeat it out loud. I wasn't lucid while dreaming, but after waking up I realized he behaved as if he knew he was in my dream.

Now I feel compelled to paint portraits of him. I'm going to try and capture how otherworldly he was even though he dressed like some kind of lawyer. His presence made me feel like I was in love in the purest way. I think I'm gay for an angelic being. I saw him for 5 minutes but I wish I could meet him again.

>> No.5214419

>>5214392
dont let the hate get you down fren

>> No.5214460

>>5214392
redditors are all dumb sheep. None of their actions make sense.

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5214489

I want to take courses about digital painting but I can't.

>> No.5214611

I'm not made to be a hardened doomfag. I just break. I'm breaking down bit by bit.
Fuck. I really miss having a girlfriend who'd cheer me up. They had so much patience with me.

>> No.5215153

Can anyone be an artist? I've been in a slump recently and I took a week off so I could come back with new vigor, but everything u do just feels like a damn waste of time, how the hell is anyone supposed to get good when there's billions of areas to work on?

>> No.5215265

>pixiv wont let me just replace the file with a new version unless i buy premium
>have to delete the work and completely reupload it

>love painting but suck at drawing
>just want to smear pretty colors on a canvas
>literally only thing i am good at is color choice, everything else is mediocre

>> No.5215274

>>5215153
desu theres only one main skill to work on and thats 3d form. Everything else is secondary (gesture, anatomy, rendering, various subject matters, etc) Just draw from imagination a lot and study up when you run into trouble and you'll be fine

>> No.5215469

>>5201901
You think her English is bad? Try reading a post written by you obscuring pronouns for no reason at all. Not finishing this crap.

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>join a coomer artist's discord
>check out the channel where people share nsfw stuff they've made
>among the mountains of gay furry art there's something that looks a little off
>there's a guy whose skill level could not be higher than a child's
>he's poorly symbol drawing female figures with tiny penises on them
>nobody seems to be pointing this out, in fact, they're encouraging him (her?)
>mfw
>nope the fuck out of the server and unfollow the coomer artist from everywhere

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>>5215541
Purge discord

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>use instagram for references, anatomy, inspiration. Lots of traditional art, sculpture, architecture
>Started getting sponsored™ accounts in my feed. Sometimes they're ok-good, sometimes they're modern art drooling retards that just splatter a canvas
>I shit talk them in the comments
>got blocked by some boomer that was just putting paint on a canvas for a few years. Like imagine flicking and splattering your oil paints on a canvas for years so it's crusty and gross.
That's what he did.

>> No.5215560

>>5215541
you should have stayed in your containment box, I never come across an mde fan/meme poster that wasnt a complete and utter faggot

>> No.5215562

>>5215541
it's cancer to not just be a coomer artist but follow coomer artists.

>> No.5215567

>>5215560
pedo

>> No.5215578

Holy fuck, New Master's Academy is amazing. They have literally everything you need to go pro

>> No.5215585
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5215585

I have nothing better to do because I'm NGMI and I don't want to draw.

>>5202490
Spend more time constructing/planning beforehand, so you can visualize the final result before putting in the hours.

>>5202520
Two years ago I promised I'd draw like a madman for 6 months. Instead, what works for me is making a todo list just for the current day and putting at least 1h of drawing in it. After I'm done with all items, I can go back to drawing if I feel like. If not, I don't feel guilty anymore cause I drew.

>>5202700
Nigger no one cares, just use the brush. Or don't, brushes are not needed and you can make them yourself.

>>5202715
Same. You can try making a project, people care more and you can always advertise it again and again.

>>5203834
Try having a picture about the subject that you can look at and compare what you're reading.

>>5204154
Post it normally and tag the artist, dingus. That's how you connect in social media.

>>5206393
I left a furry community where I tried to act genderless (not in a SJW way, just never mentioning it) but everyone assumed I was a woman and some friends even fell in love with me. But it was fun, if you ignore all those inflated dicks there is a decent SFW community as well.

>>5207348
Be sure to draw several doodles trying come up with an idea that will be fun to you and look good. Don't commit so quick, try again tomorrow if you're not feeling it. Once you've found it, lock on and finish the drawing.

>>5207384
I haven't felt any major change in my brain since I was 12 (I'm 30).

>>5207394
Now that I can relate to. Been being a little selfish lately and seeing what happens.

>>5208189
At least you have money.

>>5208520
It's called SOCIAL media. Fuck these fags. Why do you even want to give them attention?

>>5208525
Same. I have no words of comfort.

>>5208721
Same problem of overattachment. Relegate them to "relaxation time" drawings if you really want to focus on non-character art for a while.

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>>5209018
You've attached your self-image to digital art and hate the shackles. Learn to have fun, traditionally.

>>5209250
I dislike Koreans as much as I dislike blacks, so I don't see your point.

>>5209263
Wake up 1 hour earlier and draw first thing in your day.

>>5210350
Make drawing threads and CONTRIBUTE by drawing for it.

>>5210593
>>5210616
If people can get away with rigging an election, you can get away with some vague, questionable "plagiarism".

>>5210612
Lines and blotches give different notions of space. When painting, things curve and form volume shadows. Lines are a hard-edged representation of that curvature towards the sides, so it's a bit displaced in order to give the correct feeling.

>>5210756
Art is circular, everything helps with everything.

>>5210907
2 months here, but I aggravated it by stretching AFTER the fact.

>>5212018
I have never dreamed more than twice a year, waste of time.

>>5212061
Don't date people if you don't want to show yourself, retard.

>>5212070
Society has doers and followers. You should have a blog or a vlog to talk about those things that interest you and then people will pour in trying to give you their uncalled-for opinion.

>>5213174
On /ic/'s defense, drawing is the hardest subject to learn apart from maybe pure Math. But even then Math can give you precise results that let you know if you're right/wrong.

>>5213729
Brainstorming. Making connections between concepts. Use a generator if you will. Creativity is a separate muscle from drawing in itself.

>>5214254
This.

>>5215265
>love painting but suck at drawing
Same here. No way out, as they both converge. And painting is the lesser skill of the two, so it's also a reason to be ashamed and fight back.

>> No.5215590

>>5215585
>>5215588
Retard.

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>>5215585
I luv you, ngmi anon

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will I get better at drawing hands?

>> No.5215633

>>5215594
Yes. Now go forth with faith in my words.

>> No.5215672

>>5206449
>Does this mean i draw everything in same size, but then I select few lines like the eyes for example and make them smaller?
Vector doesn't work like this. The thing that you see is just a property of the path you placed and can be changed freely. You literally draw a circle and then choose any thickness for the line and a lot of other options. Just install some free vector program like Inkscape to try and see how it works.

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>>5215633

>> No.5215710

>>5212683
Well, at least experienced RPG players learn to hide their crazy better. Until you allow them to GM.

>> No.5215792

>>5215588
>CONTRIBUTE
Guess what, I used to contribute a lot. But I have grown sick and tired of this shit community and I don't want to do anything constructive for the retarded teenage cumbrains here any longer.

>> No.5215820

>>5215792
What have you contributed?

>> No.5215823

>>5215820
>he immediately starts with the bitchy passive aggressive crabbery
adorable, but fuck off

>> No.5215837

>>5215823
Honest question, but your reaction shows you're a conceited asshole so you probably didn't contribute shit. No loss

>> No.5215920

>>5215792
How is drawing for a prompt thread you made yourself a loss for you in any measure?
I'm just giving you a way to try to enjoy the board.

>> No.5215980

>>5215837
this is what you wanted to say all along except I saved time, see?
>>5215920
>How is drawing for a prompt thread you made yourself a loss for you in any measure?
I can do it without throwing it into this trash pile

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>>5201761
Spent all yesterday failing at line art that now my confidence has been knocked down so low i can't study properly anymore. Why do you have to be emotionally stable to draw? Why can't we draw when we are upset to relieve stress, instead of causing more stress?

>> No.5216192

I wasted so much time looking for tutorials when all I really needed was to sit down and go through the Loomis' books

>> No.5216486

>>5215588
>Lines and blotches give different notions of space. When painting, things curve and form volume shadows. Lines are a hard-edged representation of that curvature towards the sides, so it's a bit displaced in order to give the correct feeling.
>actually helpful anon
>only other replies to him are asspain and seethe

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>>5201761
Just got told by my optician that I have muscular degeneration in both of my eyes at the age of 18.
Fuck

>> No.5216559

I'm currently at a point where I struggle to find my place in society as a person,mainly because I want to keep drawing but if I fo it for a living I have two choices:
>being freelance but making my style marketable
>working in an industry but I have can say bye to my style

Another option would be to get a part time job that allows me to make art on the side.But I don't have any idea for now...

Not to mzntion than I'm socially awkward now. Partially due to pandemic but it's not new,just worse now.

I'm paralyzed...

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>never get any reply or just a meme reply that is not relevant to my post
so lonely...

>> No.5216659

I'm about to start another project today, it's from a tutorial but I'm hoping to gain more experience.

My dead bird is in a jar outside but I think my dog peed on it.

>> No.5216794

>>5216489
:(

>> No.5216821

how do you know if something looks good?

>> No.5216843

>>5215980
>this is what you wanted to say all along except I saved time, see?
Wrong retard, unlike you I don't kneejerk react and spew toxicity at every turn. If you make a statement like "I contribute but ur shitty people and don't deserve it" it begs the question "what are you contributing"? To non-spergs this isn't an attack, it's a natural question.

>> No.5217168

WHY CAN'T I JUST INK DIGITALLY

>> No.5217392

I'm starting to think I may have had one too many head injuries and worry about what this means for my ability to keep making art.

>Get nauseous and have to lay down at the slightest bit of too much motion, including even just playing videogames and there's like too much blur or the game goes too fast or something
>Frequently walk into things because the path looked clear to me even when it obviously wasn't
>Sometimes my vision gets completely overtaken by those little glowy dots and I just can't fucking do anything except wait for it to clear up again

I'm admittedly too scared to go to a doctor. My friend had the last thing, diagnosed with a brain tumor at 23, dead less than a year later. The treatments took such a toll on him and weren't even worth it in the end. I think I'd rather just die unexpectedly one day.

>> No.5217393

I know it’s common sense not to try and drop your pencils but I just remembered why I have some sort of fixation on “being precious” with pencils. I had a 3rd grade art teacher and I would purposefully drop his pencils and snap the lead. He caught me doing that one day and yelled at me...and then I cried because he reminded me of my dad yelling at me. The next time I had class with him he resigned and his wife took over.

I felt really bad about the whole thing. I wonder if he realizes I decided to stick with art in my adult life.

>> No.5217502

>>5217392
>one too many head injuries
from what?

>> No.5217589 [DELETED] 

>spent 5 hours turd-polishing a character painting
>background was already beautiful before I even sketched the figure in
>character just looks wrong somehow
>spend more and more time on it, close in frustration
>reopen next day
>looked at it
>it's a pile of shit on top of a great painting
>redrew character in 20 minutes, leagues better
>another hour fixing it up and doing adjustments, resizes, and redrawing various aspects
>finally isn't a god damned BLEMISH and actually fits the work
what the fuck is wrong with me

>> No.5218036

i just don't know what i want anymore

>> No.5218198

pinis winis

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I'm conflicted. Should I do it? Why can't I get a normal fucking comms ffs

>> No.5218715

>>5218448
>pixiv
You already knew what you were getting yourself into