/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.5199398]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/KJM0cgMu

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>5185165

[Anonymous No.5199399]

[Anonymous No.5199405]

Friendly reminder Asian genes are a thing, and a very real one. Stop denying reality.

[Anonymous No.5199406]

>>5199405
Jeez you're still spamming this?

[Anonymous No.5199422]

>>5199406
Look at OP pic. Its a nice pic isn't? Its the author Asian? We both know the answer

[Anonymous No.5199428]

>>5199422
Yes, OP is by KOH Minagi. Asian gene better be real.

[Anonymous No.5199462]

>>5199405
At this point I think you're just trying to discourage other people from drawing.

People are doing fine without asian jeans. You do not need them. It's all about hard work. I'm going to try and make this the last time I respond to this silliness.

[Anonymous No.5199466]

>>5199462
>People are doing fine without asian jeans
Why would you go about and parrot such a blatant lie that can easily be disproven just by looking around you.

[Anonymous No.5199469]

>>5199405
I started to believe in the asian gene meme after realizing literally every good artist in my discord is some form of asian.
Mostly koreans and chinese.
And no, its not the anime study discord. You're full of ngmi mutts.

[Anonymous No.5199470]

my study

[Anonymous No.5199482]

>>5199470
>filename

post a drawing from imagination, you are asking the equivalent of ''am i good at this game'' as you use a guide

[Anonymous No.5199484]

>>5199470
Post the original picture for comparison.

[Anonymous No.5199485]

>>5199466
Whatever you say anon. I'm happy where I'm headed. The people in /mmg/ are happy where they're headed too. Maybe if you were happy where you were headed you wouldn't believe it either.

Have fun stewing in whatever this is, I guess.

[Anonymous No.5199490]

>>5199469
Post discord please, I want to meet Asian friends

[Anonymous No.5199494]

>>5199485
>The people in /mmg/ are happy where they're headed too
I just had a look, this is clearly not the case. I think the only one who can say that is the Mexican guy working as a professional mangaka in Japan.

I know what you're trying to pull off, but no I'm not gonna shitpost /mmg/ because they actually draw and try and I respect that.

[Anonymous No.5199498]

>>5199494
>this is clearly not the case.
You should ask them. There's a difference between "seeking critique and actively wanting to improve" and "being miserable and believing that you have a permanent disadvantage." The people in that thread are squarely in the former camp.

>I know what you're trying to pull off, but no I'm not gonna shitpost /mmg/ because they actually draw and try and I respect that.
I'm not trying to pull anything off, I'm trying to convince you that asian genes are nonsense. The fact that you don't want to go into that other thread because you're afraid of them just telling you to get out seems telling if anything, and makes me question your sincerity here.

[Anonymous No.5199499]

>>5199485
The fuck you talking about mmg is as deviantart western wannabe as it gets. Not that this thread is any better

[Anonymous No.5199503]

>>5199494
/mmg/ is my comfy improvement thread please stay out of it

[Anonymous No.5199507]

>>5199499
There are people with very good work in there.

[Anonymous No.5199558]

>>5199484
not color accurate, the other laptop i use for reference has bad color balance- apparently very blue

[Anonymous No.5199561]

Can anyone give some feedback on how this is going before I ink and color? I know the hand on the viewer's right is bad and I need to redo it. The hand on the viewer's left is wonky too but it's a lot closer to the size/shape I want.

[Anonymous No.5199640]

>>5199561
flip your drawing

[Anonymous No.5199646]

>>5199561
study your anatomy. Arms are all fucked up

[Anonymous No.5199653]

>>5199640
I’ve flipped it many times.
>>5199646
Can you say something specific about how they’re fucked up? Too long, wrong shape, etc.

[Anonymous No.5199726]

>>5199561
did you tried to draw middle top but viewd a bit from the side because from that angle it shouldn't be seen that part of the arm colored in red it gives the impression of the top right corner image, also fix the sticker eyes ugh...

[Anonymous No.5199732]

>>5199726
UGH!!!

[Anonymous No.5199750]

>>5199726
>fix the sticker eyes

I'm pretty sure they have the right idea with the eyes actually, this is Rika and it's an older anime style.

[Anonymous No.5199792]

>>5199726
UuUUuUGhHhH!

[Anonymous No.5199795]

>>5199750
ummm no sweetie

[Anonymous No.5200162]

>>5199726
>>5199795
UUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.5200359]

>>5199726
Thank you for taking the time to do a redline, I really appreciate it. The camera angle is supposed to be slightly above and to the side, but not very much. Here's what I was thinking with the arm. I traced over a photo I took of myself to show that it's a possible pose. The idea is that her hand is pretty close to the table, but her elbow is also resting directly on the table, which will push her right elbow farther away from her body than her left elbow is. In this position, the forearm won't cover up as much of the upper arm as you have. You positioned her right elbow as close to her body as her left elbow is, so that accounts for some of the difference in how you drew it vs how I drew it.
This camera angle is actually more extreme than what I was going for in the drawing, but a more frontal view would just show more of the upper arm. Anyway regardless of the pose I agree that my original arms don't look good and I need to change them.

[Anonymous No.5200388]

[Anonymous No.5200413]

>>5199558
Was this for a color study or something else?
Just curious what people study from other artists.

[Anonymous No.5200449]

>>5200388
Cute, but it’s hard to tell what’s going on below the neck. Are those really big puffy sleeves? Is this referenced from an existing character?

[Anonymous No.5200478]

>>5200449
yes

[Anonymous No.5200559]

how do i anime

[Anonymous No.5200604]

>>5200559
nobody in this thread can draw anime

[Anonymous No.5200606]

>>5200604
shit

[Anonymous No.5200760]

Anyone knows where I can find the Hitokaku anon?
I want to see what is his art looks like now, considering all the efforts he was putting into it back when I'd browse here.

[Anonymous No.5201234]

is doing more of this help me draw in this style?

[Anonymous No.5201240]

/asg/ is the most gmi thread

[Anonymous No.5201242]

>>5201234
just measure proportions, create a reference sheet and use it. that's how people transferred to a new workplace to this shit

[Anonymous No.5201245]

>>5201242
Creating a reference sheet will be hard but I'll go for it, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.5201579]

Any Critique?

[Anonymous No.5201603]

Other than the chicken scratching, any critique for the gesture/proportions

[Anonymous No.5201621]

>>5199469
DAD discord?

[Anonymous No.5201625]

>>5199490
>>5201621
The anime study discord

[Anonymous No.5201641]

>>5201603
girls head has eyes with different sizes

[Anonymous No.5201650]

>>5201603
the deer skull thing is sitting unaturally, like it's floating.
it'd be easier critiquing it if you cleaned/finished it

[Anonymous No.5201667]

>>5201621
LAS has a decent amount of asian artist too

[Anonymous No.5201692]

[Anonymous No.5201693]

>>5201692

[Anonymous No.5202196]

Any good turnaround sheets to study as refrence

[Anonymous No.5202269]

>>5201692
>>5201693
very comfy i like it!

[Anonymous No.5202324]

Nep Nep

[Anonymous No.5202327]

>>5199485
Ganbarre anon I'm rooting for you

[Anonymous No.5202328]

>>5201603
cute boy
Can't wait to see it finished

[Anonymous No.5202331]

>>5201693
>>5201692
Give me your blog

[Anonymous No.5202414]

>>5199469
>>5201625
>anime study discord
fuckin LMOA

[Anonymous No.5202418]

>>5201692
stop copying screenshots and panels though

[Anonymous No.5202423]

I'm new to digital painting, what brush do i need to make something like pic related and where can i get it or make it (please don't say hard round brush i know that's not it)
https://youtu.be/vniofTqESNI you can see it clearly at 2:55 and i have nothing on CSP that resembles it

[Anonymous No.5202426]

>>5202423
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.5202431]

>>5202423
>I'm new to digital painting
Hard round brush is what you want, it's memed for a reason. Simple is best for learning, and if you can't do something with a hrb you sure as hell aren't doing it with any other brush.

[Anonymous No.5202432]

>>5202431
ok but what's the brush used in the video though

[Anonymous No.5202435]

>>5202423
i think it's custom made, you'll have to replicate it yourself

[Anonymous No.5202437]

>>5202414
i literally say in my post that its not asg you retarded fuck.
You guys don't even share the discord link anymore, so how do you expect anyone to bother mentioning it

[Anonymous No.5202453]

>>5201234
Finally a fellow Gogalking enthusiast , keep it up brother

[Anonymous No.5202501]

>>5202324
fun stuff
but lines are way too messy and the cunny/ass part looks weird

[Anonymous No.5202510]

>>5202423
Textured triangle

[Anonymous No.5202584]

How do i get into an art discord

[Anonymous No.5202990]

>>5202584
A whole post on this was made last thread

[Anonymous No.5203262]

Sketching a side character idea, making shit up as I go.

[Anonymous No.5203442]

>>5203262
WTF.
I mean. Your detail is amazing anon but it's a little uncanny valley.
I'm unsure if it's a babyfaced tranny, or a very hairy anime girl.

[Anonymous No.5203467]

>studying Japanese while learning how to draw
>make all my posts in Japanese as practice
>Japanese people message me and send me requests
>can't actually understand them in detail
This was a mistake

[Anonymous No.5203471]

>>5202584
you can join /asg/ discord
the secret art discord is for normal people, they won't tolerate people from /ic/ anymore. You kinda missed the boat anon, most of the pre-election /ic/ vet moved on to their own private club.

[Anonymous No.5203498]

>>5203467
living the dream

[Anonymous No.5203533]

>>5202426
>>5202423
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cgkktych38noxo2/32.abr
>csp

[Anonymous No.5203546]

Can I start with this book if I want to draw mini characters or I should learn full anatomy and gesture course before? I'm not planning into semi-realism but in simple manga/comics and character design.

[Anonymous No.5203581]

>>5203546
yes, be happy

[Anonymous No.5203670]

[Anonymous No.5203678]

>>5203546
I like this book. Besides the chibi characters, it also helped me with proportions on regular characters as well.

[Anonymous No.5203717]

>>5203546
Is this book on MEGA? What's its name?

[Anonymous No.5203727]

>>5203717
not him but maybe try to search on https://hunmer.github.io/List-of-drawing-tutorials/
title is ミニキャラクターの描き分け

[Anonymous No.5203737]

>>5203727
Thanks, found it there!

[Anonymous No.5203776]

did a rough/approximate colouring style study, if anyone's interested. not exact though because I got lazy

[Anonymous No.5203795]

>>5203776
SHIT dude good work. I'd watch your process videos. you got a blog? how's your original stuff?

[Anonymous No.5203802]

>>5203776
extremely based,
much better and useful than ugh gook poster

[Anonymous No.5203807]

>>5203467
iktf. intermediate ability is hell.

[Anonymous No.5203811]

[Anonymous No.5203816]

>>5203776
This is really helpful and looks awesome! Very nice work anon. Also, blog?

[Anonymous No.5203817]

>>5203776
amazing job, well done anon :D

how do you pick the colors for the adjustment layers though? just experience?

[Anonymous No.5203824]

>>5199405
She must be drawing every day for like 10 hours for about 8 years+, did you draw for this many hours anon?

[Anonymous No.5203830]

>>5203807
Good enough to be approached, bad enough to be approachable to random people.

[Anonymous No.5203844]

>>5203811
>sticker brush

[Anonymous No.5203887]

>>5202501
Currently trying to clean it up, but i never know what i'm doing with line art and suck at coloring. It seems no matter how high i put the stabilizer my lines always come out wobbly. I might finished this at another time, after i study more. I don't really like it right now.

[Anonymous No.5204001]

>>5203776
Thank you, I've been looking for something like this, based anon

[Anonymous No.5204005]

>>5203795
>>5203802
>>5203816
>>5204001
thanks lads, glad you guys like. hope it's of some use to someone.
>blog
it's out of date and i do low-effort/non-reffed imagination drawings/doodles/experiments a lot, kek, so it's kind of embarrassingly lazy.
if any of you just want more rough tuts/steps though, here's an imgur with the others i posted on /asg/ a couple weeks back.
https://imgur.com/a/7tjDNcx

>>5203817
thanks mate. i suppose it's just experience and guessing once or twice until it looks good.
here, since i'm trying to get it to look passably close to the source, i guess the layer mode/guess at a layer mode that will approximately replicate the colouring they use. for example, if a solid highlight is blurred out and the blurred part is saturated/deep, i might try a linear light/shade layer or an add/glow layer. then i blob on a colour or three to test what they look like.

[Anonymous No.5204019]

>>5204005
christ, I forgot that imgur destroyed image quality that much. reuploaded to catbox.
https://catbox.moe/c/k9oyu7

[Anonymous No.5204046]

>>5203887
have you tried lining with a velocity-size pen (instead of just pressure size)? it can be more convenient sometimes

[Anonymous No.5204106]

>>5204046
No i haven't. Only using the default g pen. I don't really know much about brush setting yet. Will velocity help keep my line weight consistent, or would it be better to just lower/turn down pen pressure?

[Anonymous No.5204153]

>>5204106
like i said, i find it convenient sometimes, but i don't know if you will. i suspect it's a matter of personal taste. you'll probably just have to fiddle with it and find out.

[Anonymous No.5204155]

>>5204106
ah, i sorta misread the question, sorry. to clarify, if your pressure control is rather dubious, but your lines are drawn at a decent speed, then your line weight may be more consistent & your lines may look nicer with velocity-size on. but the effect can be different, visually.

[Anonymous No.5204366]

>>5203670
early 2000s style?
looks ok

[Anonymous No.5204412]

>>5201603
i had no idea what i was signing up to; this shit is taking forever

[Anonymous No.5204443]

>>5204412
just keep at it i like how it's turning out

[Anonymous No.5204518]

>>5204366
whats wrong with it

[Anonymous No.5204653]

Milkchan

[Anonymous No.5204765]

I've been doing what the pin2d man says to do as practice for heads, starting to feel confident about it
hardest part for me is getting the side of the cheek (the one that does the S thingy) right, but improving little by little
soon I'll start with the hair/eyes by also following the instructions of the pin2d people

[Anonymous No.5204830]

What should i do to improve it ? Does the pose looks right ?

[Anonymous No.5204847]

>>5204830
I feel like legs are a bit short
regarding the pose, what were you going for here? it feels stiff even if you were going for a stiff pose, maybe push the hips a little and make the legs dont face the exact same direction

[Anonymous No.5204850]

>>5204847
this, it also have lots of soul, whats the context here though

[Anonymous No.5204868]

>>5204847
i wanted her to be against the wall

[Anonymous No.5204871]

>>5204868
why is she against the wall?

[Anonymous No.5204873]

>>5204871
i don't know, don't really have a back story about it

[Anonymous No.5204874]

>>5204830
Legs too long or the torso is too long

[Anonymous No.5204880]

>>5204873
come up with one! it will always make your drawings more interesting, maybe she getting mugshots going to loli jail or something

[Anonymous No.5204883]

>>5204868
lean against the wall yourself take a photo and compare the pose in the photo in contrast with your drawing

[Anonymous No.5204903]

>>5204880
>>5204883
Im trying to do more works with full body so thanks for the critics

[Anonymous No.5204949]

Which western book will help get good enough to compete with asian jeans?

[Anonymous No.5205045]

>>5204412
I feel like you're losing the appeal your sketch had, so I did a quick paintover. You can completely ignore everything I did, but my main critique would be to fix the nose's structure, push the values on the face more, and don't shade with black on the neck.

[Anonymous No.5205162]

>>5204949
Genetic Manipulation: Techniques and Applications

[Anonymous No.5205215]

>>5205045
I was actually already working (struggling) on the darker values thing, as for the appeal sketch stuff, well i actually didn't really like the face on the sketch because it was more effeminate than what i was going for, and while i understand how some might find that more appealing, i wanted him to look "beautiful", but not "pretty" if that makes sense, and i think a "manlier" nose plays a big role in making that distinction.
honestly my main struggle is the hair, i redid it several times and i still have no idea what I'm doing. i watched several tutorials and stuff and i still don't get how to make it look right, it's frustrating

[Anonymous No.5205313]

>>5205215
I actually liked your previous version of his hair better, it had interesting shape designs. Anyway, in general you need to zoom out and start using a big brush to block in your values instead of using tiny brush strokes to draw individual strands with hue variation. Especially with hair, it's better to block interesting shapes in first, then add your hue variations, random strands, etc later. I gave him basic long hair but you get the idea, I see that there's a lot of texture in your style and this paintover might not be in a style you want, but in general it's more about having a good foundation of values before you add the texture and noise back into your art. Hope this makes sense.

[Anonymous No.5205327]

>>5205313
Thanks alot i really appreciate you taking the time to do these paintovers and your criticisms are all valid i do have a tendency to rush into detail when my foundations aren't strong and I'm struggling to get rid of that habit.
I'm especially thankful for this paint over because you blocked out the exact shape of hair i was going for but struggling to get right

[Anonymous No.5205419]

>>5204765
whats the purpose of this? this looks pretty dumb

[Anonymous No.5205440]

>>5205327
You're welcome anon, hope your painting goes well. You can do it!

[Anonymous No.5205448]

>>5205419
mostly to internalize a way to deconstruct/construct the head without going crazy with measurements and stuff, and also to get a sense of how a "correct" head would look like
and for me to finally be able to draw something besides just simpsons heads
pic attached is a head I did drew without looking at anything, just following what I got from doing >>5204765, might not be much but now I can do this and before I couldnt

[Anonymous No.5205456]

[Anonymous No.5205460]

>>5205456
rough sketch with the ref

[Anonymous No.5205475]

>>5205460
the lower right leg looks weird and the knee isnt following the orientation of the rest of the leg
I think a figma is not a good idea if you're trying to get an idea of how things should look, try with a non figma figurine

[Anonymous No.5205553]

I'M TIRED OF LOOMIS AND VILPPU
I WANT TO DRAW ANIME GIRLS

[Anonymous No.5205569]

>>5205553
draw some anime girls

[Anonymous No.5205574]

>>5205569
I can't I'm shit

[Anonymous No.5205592]

>>5205460
Increase hair volume next time.

[Anonymous No.5205788]

what software do you use to draw on android?
i'm willing to buy it if it's good, but probably won't if it's subscription-based

[Anonymous No.5205905]

Hi /asg/.
Have been practicing anime hair shapes on paper recently.
Don't usually draw on a tablet, now trying to transfer that shape practice into digital.
Sorry about really thick lines on fringe, had some pressure setting issues before I found a good middle ground. CSP pencil is fiddly.
Any tips on good shapes for hair clumps?

[Anonymous No.5205935]

Need a help with hairs too. I tried to imagine strands in 3D (by advice) but it looks and feels cringy and I didn't understand how to obtain usual cute forms with those shaded regions (I can imagine a body in 3D and it helps but didn't helps with hairs). I have a couple cheap but cute wigs for ref but it's looks different from what I see in anime and anime drawing books.

[Anonymous No.5205990]

>>5205905
>>5205935
pretty sure theres a cute anime girl hair catalog book on the mega link >>5199398
also "drawing moe basic and advance techniques" might be useful
regarding your drawing, the hair makes her look like the head is way too long from the eyes and up

[Anonymous No.5206004]

I got the basics but I can't figure how to make my artworks great and professional. Any critiques ?

[Anonymous No.5206063]

>>5206004
face looks weird, like to short and too round
if you dial the shading in the skin to 11, it would look better, if she had a little of shading in her nose or something it would help the head shape probably
her right arm is bending in a weird way that dont help the foreshorting in any way
those would the 3 things that are making the drawing look weird, besides that looks okay and the world needs more polka more more more

[Anonymous No.5206071]

>>5205905
first your head looks boxy from the jaw to the top, imb4 muh style, problem with that is that it will make your hair look like that ( see pic 2), i visualize the hair like top right pic, i just need to know where the hair uhhhhh starts and then draw the hanks while keeping in mind their volume and direction(3D think lmao), once you have down that you can start making details more easily, just think in 3D ughhhhhhh......

[Anonymous No.5206072]

>>5206004
dark colors are blending with the bg

[Anonymous No.5206075]

>>5206071
>ugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M

[Anonymous No.5206098]

>>5206071
>uhhhh
>ughhh
take the dildo off your ass faggot

[Anonymous No.5206108]

>>5206071
UUUGHHHHHGGGHHHH

[Anonymous No.5206109]

>>5206098
lol

[Anonymous No.5206117]

hopefully i can summon the energy to work on this over the next week

>>5206004
subjective critique incoming:
- needs more work on forms (problem areas: skirt, hands etc)
- could probably use some anatomy work too
- too many poorly defined, unnecessary soft edges / airbrushes everywhere
- shading with black
- inconsistent lighting/shadows (ex shouldn't be there more AO under the skirt)
keep at it though

[Anonymous No.5206139]

Is this anime enough? How do I make it anime?

I wanted to delete the nostrils but it looked too weird with other details going on?? Someone help.

[Anonymous No.5206157]

>>5205574
>he fell for the can't draw anime until he perfects loomis meme
Point and laugh

[Anonymous No.5206160]

>>5206139
how to draw manga basics and beyond

[Anonymous No.5206165]

>>5206139
Look at any anime girl pictures and compare it to yours. Whats different? Hint: Its in the middle of the face

[Anonymous No.5206179]

>>5206139
Your style could be similar to the one of Emanon or Inio Asano
If you listen to this thread nothing is "anime" except moe blobs with a single dot for a nose

I'd say it's pretty close to "anime" done in a more realistic style

[Anonymous No.5206181]

>>5206157
how?

[Anonymous No.5206183]

>>5206139
Maybe lower the lips a little bit? Also the bridge of the nose is too realistic. Maybe erase it or something?

[Anonymous No.5206188]

>>5206139
>>5206181

[Anonymous No.5206195]

>>5206188

[Anonymous No.5206197]

>>5206195

[Anonymous No.5206203]

>>5206197
The real redpill :
"Anime" aka "Japanese style" has more to do with their linework and how they construct they drawings than arbitrary conventions such as "a realistic nose isn't anime!!"

It's just like how you can tell this clip was animated in japan despite the western chara-design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiC5_qROyMw

[Anonymous No.5206208]

>>5206203
That's why pic related looks like a knock-off despite doing "everything right"

[Anonymous No.5206211]

>>5206203
I will admit this frame looks very japanese animation, and I cant put my finger on why

[Anonymous No.5206217]

>>5206004
not sure if my pc but the fucking contrast is too bright or too dark and for the love of god pick a source of light, i cant draw fur so dont @ me about that

[Anonymous No.5206226]

>>5206211
They use japanese techniques inherited and refined since Tezuka created his first studio
Limited animation (12 images per seconds, looping)
Emphasis on dramatic poses (key frames) to save the budget by making them the focus point
A certain way of shading the moving objects like the car

In the west we tend to animate every little movement and we don't dramatize poses as a result


It's the same in manga. Araki consistently "looks Japanese" despite following none of the mainstream conventions in shonens

Now compare to realistic western comic books, the feeling is very different

[Anonymous No.5206228]

>>5206211
I think it’s a combination of the expressions, poses, and linework. The Japanese have a very distinctive way they draw expressions and place lines. I’d want to say it’s almost calligraphy-like.

[Anonymous No.5206229]

>>5206211
>>5206228
this

[Anonymous No.5206239]

>>5206188
But that looks miles better than what I can do.

[Anonymous No.5206242]

>>5206004
Blog?

[Anonymous No.5206255]

>>5206217
thanks anon, helped me figure some shit out
and yes the contrast is fucked up, its not your computer, I messed something up

[Anonymous No.5206311]

>>5206139
Here's a quick paintover, I moved her lips down, simplified her nose, sharpened her face and soften some edges overall. I think your style (the eyes especially) feels more like the western anime mix you see often on Twitter than "anime". Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.5206317]

Thanks everyone
>>5206311
I’ve been trying to simplify but it often ended up looking wonky...

I’m going to try and change some things.

[Anonymous No.5206410]

Does anyone have any good guides for shading hair, please? I suck at it and most guides I found weren't very good.

[Anonymous No.5206443]

>>5206195
what series is this, it looks like recent Asano but i don't recognize this character

[Anonymous No.5206446]

does anyone have any references for legs up this far. I feel like I have it wrong

>>5206195
what series is this, it looks like recent Asano but i don't recognize this character

[Anonymous No.5206479]

This took me almost a week to complete and even the end result looks pretty bad in contrast, Any stand out things I should work on the most to improve?

[Anonymous No.5206482]

>>5206479
anatomy, your shoulders are too broad for a girl and waist too thin for a girl

[Anonymous No.5206487]

>>5206479
>This took me almost a week to complete
no matter if you NEVER improve in quality, it should be this. no piece of work like this should take a week off your life. at this pace you would take multiple months to make a single chapter of manga. if you want to actually draw manga, you need to increase your speed.

[Anonymous No.5206495]

>>5206479
>>5206487
Ignore this anon's shitty advice, striving for quality and working on your fundamentals IS the exact thing that helps increase your speed in the long run. At your level, forcing yourself to work faster is just going to hurt you and demoralize you because they're going to be even worse than your drawings that you take the time to do. Do your fundies.

[Anonymous No.5206501]

>>5206495
this also refrain from rendering your artworks outside of base colours until you get decent enough with your anatomy

[Anonymous No.5206508]

>>5206242
are you the same person that asks for the blog of anons or theres more than one of you? not that is anything bad with it

[Anonymous No.5206510]

>>5206479
what took you the most time?

[Anonymous No.5206525]

>>5206479
tbqh desu i think that working faster will be beneficial, because 1 week is incredibly slow for what you have, and it's easier to focus on one single aspect (sketching, colouring, etc) at a time, and your improvement will be faster if you learn the fundamentals of smaller aspects/break things into smaller and more focused chunks

[Anonymous No.5206549]

>>5206482
Yeah looking back that really is something that looks of now that you mention it, I think slimming down the neck and connecting it to the shoulders are something I should definitely work on, Thank you

>>5206487
>>5206525
>>5206501
Thankfully I'm in a position where I can be on my PC most of the day but that still doesn't excuse how long something like this should take me I think, I definitely wanna improve on time and thankfully I'm getting better at cutting down I think, I used to take way longer, Any advice on cutting down on time? (I think this is more on me though)

>>5206510
Shading, Sketch took me about 1.5/2hrs, Lining took me 3.5/4 and since I don't complete many artworks often, The shading was what took me the most time due to mostly looking up tutorials and coloring guides, It took about a week on/off but hours of continuous drawing was about 19-22, It's still a lot and something I should definitely improve on

>>5206495
Thank you, I really should work on fundies more than I am already, It's a bit difficult trying to manage what I should and shouldn't practice but I think I should add more time practicing fundies to help out the long run.

Thanks again anons, It's my first time posting here and I think I got a good amount of stuff to go and work on tommorow morning, Everything said was appreciated to help me in the long run

[Anonymous No.5206550]

>>5206098
Ahhhhh

[Anonymous No.5206555]

>>5199469
>>5199405
Are you guys Latin American or Slavs?

[Anonymous No.5206568]

How long does an average piece take you, /asg/?
I'm slow as a snail too. Lately it's been even making me quit making finished pieces because I know it'll take forever which really isn't a good way to handle that.

[Anonymous No.5206580]

i've been lurking for 100 years

[Anonymous No.5206586]

>>5206580
soul! apart from that head 2 big and align your eyes

[Anonymous No.5206595]

>>5206586
thank you anon! i will update it!

[Anonymous No.5206612]

>>5204019
oh thats cool! i studied your study.
then i also remembered the artist posted the timelapse https://youtu.be/WGuOJ5i4iOg seems like he draws some steps differently

[Anonymous No.5206617]

[Anonymous No.5206632]

>>5206612
oh neat, glad it could be of use to you dude!
>link
interesting, i didnt actually know the sauce cos it was just from some anon's image post and i never backsearched it kek. skimmed through it real quick just now
i wouldnt have expected greyscale necessarily but it's also not surprising, tho i do tend to work from colour directly, personally speaking. the use of the lasso is definitely not surprising, since it's an easy way to define the hard edges for things like this, but personally i opted out because it would be too much of a pain to show on a diagram pic

[Anonymous No.5206660]

>>5206617
Cute Nue dude, I hope you color it

[Anonymous No.5206665]

hey anons, do you see any problems with this? specifically the face?

[Anonymous No.5206679]

>>5201579
This looks like an excuse to draw Lady D's tits... And not all that well.

Her features are floating all over her face, her collarbone appears to be broken and she has no ears or left arm.

Also, if you're going to work with alcohol markers, I suggest you research how to blend with them. The paper doesn't look very suited for the medium either. You can see puddling in the larger areas of color, like the hat, and there's really bad feathering in the creases of her bodice and the ink smudged around her cleavage.

The hair looks... bad. Very bad.

All in all, put down the coomer stuff and practice your fundies. This is DA-tier.

[Anonymous No.5206682]

>>5202324
i think you went way too much on the ass, they sound't be that much visible from that angle

[Anonymous No.5206686]

>>5206665
maybe her eyes pupils are wrong, they just dont match to where they are looking at

[Anonymous No.5206769]

>>5205905
>>5205990
Thank you, I will check out those books.
>>5206071
Nah man, no inb4, no muh style, I'm here to listen to advice.
Thank you for the redline, very helpful. I can see what you mean by boxy, I'm finding it very hard to get a good long curve for top of head on a tablet. Tablet or no, I have not found a good 'volume' of hair for muh style, or an easily repeatable shape for top of the hair. It's often too little or too much.
I tried drawing the same thing again from memory two hours later. Working on paper is still waaaay easier to get the lines I want. Any tablet line tips? Using a big Intuos.
Will work on some of your suggestions in my next attempt.

[Anonymous No.5206773]

>>5206769
And some other attempts at copying hair. I guess the next step is trying to do this from photo reference?

[Anonymous No.5206787]

>>5206479
Do daily figure drawing for at least 30 minutes per day, beware results are not instant!

However, the results once you get them are quite fast paced. In other words you'll improve quickly.

[Anonymous No.5206789]

>>5206773
I don't know if that's the next step certainly looks better than the hair I can draw but it's a copy also.

[Anonymous No.5206797]

>>5206789
I think you can get the same idea across with another pose for the front arm, this one looks awkward.

[Anonymous No.5206799]

>>5206797
Sorry to disappoint you I'll work harder I think to resolve the issue.

[Anonymous No.5206837]

>>5206660
thanks i tried

[Anonymous No.5206883]

>>5206837
cute, but her dress looks like it was made from satin fabric, maybe a little less soft shadows there, so its congruent with the rest of the coloring?

[Anonymous No.5206988]

I did not think it will end up like this, but i guess she is in a rave party

[Anonymous No.5207102]

>>5206988
needs more shadows that show where the knees are
her left arm looks bigger than her right and its bending in a weird way
face looks kinda flat could be improved with shading
the hair looks flat and also like theres no hair behind
and the head a little too big
besides that I think its solid, cute and I like her legs, pose and her expression, I'll give it cunny/10

[Anonymous No.5207157]

i did some style studies from FLCL. the style in the show changes a lot so there's some nice variety I think

[Anonymous No.5207161]

>>5207157
i also did some pose studies of one of the action sequences. they do a lot of weird foreshortening, it's kind of neat. the third page was done without reference, let me know what you think

[Anonymous No.5207174]

>>5207161
GAINAX artwork is always really cool to see - but take into account that the art in these shows was tailored to their particular animation style. By which I mean, these are drawings meant for moving pictures, which is why you see a lot of "weird foreshortening". Take a look at other GAINAX shows like Kill La Kill or Gurren Lagann.

Not saying it's a bad thing, just pointing it out so you take it into account. Your studies are really good, and the last page looks nice. Maybe the bottom one on the last page could be fixed a bit by taking the head a bit more "into" the body.

[Anonymous No.5207273]

>>5207102
Some improvements

[Anonymous No.5207302]

>>5206787
Hello!, I tried doing gesture and watched proko's videos on it but was a bit confused since from my understanding its the recording of a body in motion?, Being quite honest i was really confused on it. What would you recommend to a beginner getting into figure drawing and resources to practice on? I truly believe figure drawing is something im lacking in but didn't comprehend so if it will help ill gladly practice for an hour or two a day!

[Anonymous No.5207305]

>>5207302
i am stupid and confused gesture drawing with figure drawing i think dammit

[Anonymous No.5207309]

>>5207302
>>5207305
check how hampton explains it, I was confused with proko too, but with this I did understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzB3ESpfE0
then I started doing gesture drawings of screenshots of girls dancing to anime songs and stuff
>confused gesture with figure
he also has some videos on construction, anatomy and such

[Anonymous No.5207328]

Could I get crit on the anatomy?
Not sure where her torso and the guy should be placed.

[Anonymous No.5207346]

>>5206568
On average I try to get things done within a day or 2, 2-6 hrs if it's not a study or extra new shit or something, but I don't do very detailed shit often, I'm really lazy
Max time like a wk but probably like 10-15 hrs? Idk

[Anonymous No.5207457]

>>5206612
what the hell is going on that he goes from working on 4 layers to THIS.

[Anonymous No.5207541]

>>5207457
i didnt check the layers while watching the videos but my guess is that it's bc he goes from greyscale (with rudimentary shading) to colour, so at first he doesnt have many colours
and the stuff afterwards is him adding more colour details/shading/whatever on new layers
this is just a guess tho lol

[Anonymous No.5207549]

>>5207541
not the anon that posted the vid btw

[Anonymous No.5207710]

>>5199405
Yes there are very young and talented asian people, 14 yo old from the philipines, 15 from singapore, 16 from korea, 17 from, 18 from vietnam and even 13 from Japan. You know the difference between them and you faggot, passion, that's the sole reason you keep posting this asian gene shit, those people do not even compete with you in the industry you do not live in the same fucking country, for sake you're not even drawing so why'd you compete with anyone.
The only asian gene existing is the gene of passion and dedication

[Anonymous No.5207723]

I feel like the style/aesthetic i'm aiming for isn't what immediately comes to mind when you think of anime and would fit more in the /alt/ thread but /alt/ is such a garbage general while /asg/ is alot more productive with people that actually help out and post redlines and paint overs instead of shit flinging and seething all day.
I wish the rest of this board was like /asg/

[Anonymous No.5207728]

>>5204765
I found the Proko vids on "drawing the head from any angle" really helpful for head construction. Maybe check them out, if you want to supplement your practice with some more "theory". E.g. your ear placement seems too low in most of these.

[Anonymous No.5207796]

Why anime drawing books often uses stickmans for poses instead of gestures? Is there japanese anime gesture tutorials?

[Anonymous No.5207803]

>>5199405
it's not the asian genes that ensure you're gmi, it's the burger genes that ensure you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.5207806]

>>5199405
mfw i live in the Asia part of Middle East so i technically have Asian genes

[Anonymous No.5207821]

>>5207806
SO THIS IS THE LEGENDARY TURANIK RACE?

[Anonymous No.5207871]

>>5199405
this doesn't prove shit about genes
growing up with manga and drawing every day would do this to you.

kids are even much better than adults at learning languages.
that you're young doesn't matter, it could even be an advantage. only the time spent learning matters.

[Anonymous No.5207873]

>>5207806
Only in name.

[Anonymous No.5207876]

>>5207873
non ajan jean having cope

[Anonymous No.5207913]

the contrast and hue are off because i took a picture with my phone, i dont have a scanner.

is this like... good enough? could you coom to a body drawn like this? too sloppy? lines too messy? anatomy/perspective need work? should i color in more of the skin instead of leaving so much white?

[Anonymous No.5207947]

>>5207913
looks like a really bad copy, the big difference in arms, left looks like a chicken wing and the other one has not form looks like a sausage instead, the ass fang in the left leg is ... is that even her ass or what, the skin dentation on the right leg is okay but in left one looks like shes wearing a a huge boot, theres a big difference width too also the face looks like is not centered.

[Anonymous No.5207948]

>>5206117
Ren, I told you this before that you keep on making your torso super stiff. Also why is the right leg thicker than the left (her right our left) leg? Chin is too far forward and far side of her trapezius is wider than the closer (visually righthand) side of it.
For all that talk about cross contour I think you might have learn how to reapply it so this doesn't happen

[Anonymous No.5207954]

>>5207913
values need work and you don't have a proper understanding of where your lightsource is coming from, for instance, you shaded both tits in the same exact way when, assuming light is coming from somewhere in the front right, the part i circled should be lighter, i would also throw in a few highlights around her stomach aswell.
the black lineart makes it look like cheap and inorganic especially around places like the collarbone and armpits, use darker values instead of lines when painting
that's not how the torso and hips connect, it look disfigured.

also even though only half of it is there i find the neck and headshape unappealing

[Anonymous No.5207960]

>>5207328
please respond

[Anonymous No.5207962]

>>5207960
watch some porn

[Anonymous No.5208188]

I tried to copy from observation, now should I do it from memory? my memory is total rubbish

[Anonymous No.5208196]

>>5208188
No, you should be learning construction.

[Anonymous No.5208204]

>>5208196
ty

[Anonymous No.5208244]

>>5208188
>copy

[Anonymous No.5208258]

>>5207954
thank you for the critique. as for light source, i dont know shit about it. i was just following this, but with markers instead of photoshop. thank you for pointing all that out. ill work on it. its hard to know what to focus on when you are so far behind. you know?

[Anonymous No.5208261]

>>5206410
Anyone? Pls

[Anonymous No.5208281]

>>5208261
This?

[Anonymous No.5208291]

>>5208281
Yes this one is good, thank you!

[Anonymous No.5208336]

>>5206682
I agree with this guy. I appreciate you wanting to make the character thic but it adds too much weight to the lower half of the image. good stuff thou, I like the pic.

[Anonymous No.5208364]

>>5206479
Ah, this has the potential to be a cute, anon

[Anonymous No.5208409]

How come when I was here last year and tried to post my /beg/ shit I was told to fuck off back to /beg/ but now you guys treat /beg/s like human beans

[Anonymous No.5208413]

>>5208409
because /ic/ isn't one single being and different people will reply differently to different posts

[Anonymous No.5208418]

>>5208364
this still looks bad

[Anonymous No.5208473]

>>5208196
I hope he knows gesture, anatomy and perspective/forms because that's how you do construction

[Anonymous No.5208550]

Ok I'm watching all of mickey construction videos.

I'm going to make it.

[Anonymous No.5208562]

>>5199653
lmao the anatomy isn't fucked up it's just a strange and awkward way to position that hand
bring the upper arm a little closer to her body and the point her upper arm a little bit away from the body as well and then try to have her grip the cig with her index and thumb

>>5199726
i just finished writing all of that before i saw this lmao, i'm retarded
it was actually what i was thinking in my head except for the grip change

[Anonymous No.5208585]

>>5208413
based and enlightened

[Anonymous No.5208588]

I have no idea how to fix my lines. I want them to look more, idk, dynamic and less uniform. It's impossible for me to explain what I actually want, but I think you might be able to see what I mean through my work. I usually make lots of little marks to get them, because g-pen is too thick and hard. Means my final product looks something like this. I can't even copy correctly because I don't know the right brush to use for it. I'll post something else to illustrate even further after cooldown.

[Anonymous No.5208662]

>>5199561
that is a really big cigarette

[Anonymous No.5208964]

>>5203581
>>5203678
Thanks. I'm bad at proportions so need a lot of practice.

[Anonymous No.5208969]

Does anyone know what brush was used here? It's clearly digital, and doesn't look like any of the CSP basic brushes, any ideas?

[Anonymous No.5208984]

>>5208964
Make arms bigger

[Anonymous No.5209187]

>>5208969
The brush isn't all that matters, you have to think about the resolution and dpi which also affects the look. It really just seems like a g-pen with low antialiasing anyway

[Anonymous No.5209247]

>>5209187
Smart. Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.5209394]

>>5208588
let's work from top to bottom.
hair needs highlights.
ears are crooked, and since her head is slightly turned to our right, we shouldn't see both ears head on. her nose is either too high or her mouth is too small. titties aren't bad but her arm pits are too high. the upper arm on the left is curved and the hand is flat. upper arm on the right is too short. rib cage doesn't really make sense. her torso and spine are twisted a bit too far.

don't worry about the lines. fix the anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5209404]

>>5209394
i meant mouth is too low, not too small

[Anonymous No.5209654]

>>5203442
Yeah I dunno where I was going with this, some other anon said it looked like anime John Lennon and that sealed its fate...hopefully I've redeemed myself with tonight's sketch.

[Anonymous No.5209675]

>>5209654
she must be really smart. I like your linework

[Anonymous No.5209691]

>>5209675
Is that coz she got a bit of a 5head going on? Coz that's half intentional, half me just fucking the sizing up a bit...her race have slightly larger foreheads (they ain't human).

[Anonymous No.5209713]

>>5208969
>It's clearly digital, and doesn't look like any of the CSP basic brushes, any ideas?
Likely one of the basic pens. Probably g pen and / or mapping on a Monochrome canvas.

>>5208588
>I usually make lots of little marks to get them, because g-pen is too thick and hard.

You're likely using the g-pen incorrectly or in a sub-par manner. Much like its real-world counterpart, it's an extremely versatile tool that nonetheless happens to be a bit of a noob trap because you have to think about and use it in a very particular way.

For the digital pen in particular, I find that it helps to think about it more like a "brush" than as a pen. Delicate changes in brush size comes from working at a very small size and with a very delicate hand and attention to pressure (here I kept my brush at 10px on a 5k height canvas; this picture is zoomed in so that you can see the lines a little better. Note that since the g-pen in its default state has a very high taper with a minimum size of "zero," the vast majority of lines here are going to be under 10px due to the nature of pen pressure and inking).

"Re-stroking" to build up specific levels of thickness is a very good technique to use, as is "double-lining" and then filling in-between the lines to create specific line shapes. It's not a brush you can just pick and "go to town" with; it requires that you pay a lot of attention. That said, it isn't good for everything, and it's impossible to tell if it's good for whatever style you're going with without seeing some sort of example. Don't fall into the trap of lessening the taper available to you with the g-pen unless you know what you're doing and want to achieve a specific visual effect; the taper is something you *want* to have. It's where the entirety of the g-pen's strength comes from. If you don't have it, then your lines are going to seem thick and uniform, which you don't seem to want. Instead, work on your ability to control the amount of pressure in your strokes.

[Anonymous No.5210487]

>>5207302
>>5207305
Sorry, I indeed meant 'figure drawing' not gesture drawing.
Figure is more aimed at proportional accuracy while gesture is more aimed at capturing the motion.

I have some additional resources but I'd have to zip it all together I think.

[Anonymous No.5210495]

>>5207302
>>5210487
I would skip on proko to be honest though, for now at least. I don't think his tutorials are *that* useful for most people but I'd have to actually take a look at his videos to make a proper assessment.
I don't want to discourage you though as he is funny and if he's funny he makes drawing fun.

Last time I checked I think I wasn't super impressed but I'd have to properly check up on his channel.

I'm by no means an expert!

[Anonymous No.5210901]

how many times do i have to copy anime girls before i make it

[Anonymous No.5210914]

>went to check on /fag/ to shit on them for the first time
>While it's kinda cringe, most of the arts there seem to have stronger foundation than the majority of /asg/
>they're actually helping each other out
I'm starting to fear that they'll make it before anyone here including me can.

[Anonymous No.5210922]

Wip

[Anonymous No.5210936]

>>5210922
Unironically one of the cooler images in this thread

[Anonymous No.5210965]

>>5210487
No problem man thank you, I was busy yesterday so couldn't practice, But i am watching the "Gesture" lecture atm and plan on going to the "Figure" one right afterwards, Mistakes happens but you still pointed me in the right direction, Thank you

[Anonymous No.5210969]

>>5210901
have you tried doing still lives? I feel like your observation skills are not quite there yet

[Anonymous No.5211103]

How to improve this?

[Anonymous No.5211116]

>>5207157
>>5207161
based and yoshinaripilled

[Anonymous No.5211162]

Do you guys study real people for heads or just the skull? Im terrified that I might end up eyes some how western in the end

[Anonymous No.5211164]

Do you guys study real people for heads or just the skull? Im terrified that I might end up making the eyes some how western

[Anonymous No.5211200]

>>5211164
There some japanese artist who does realism with eastern stylization that can be cross trained into anime, idk what was the pixiv tag for it, but try to copy or reverse engineer their technique.

[Anonymous No.5211207]

>>5211200
you have any pics that I can use a litmus?

[Anonymous No.5211226]

>>5211200
>>5211207
I think I found it thanks anon, pretty much eastern realism

[Anonymous No.5211973]

>>5211226
What Pixiv ID what you found?

[Anonymous No.5212120]

>>5211226
one instant I know is Eisaku Kubonouchi

[Anonymous No.5212259]

>>5211973
Ukiyo-e but modern like this pic anon gave me >>5212120

[Anonymous No.5212280]

>>5212259
You means 浮世絵?

[Anonymous No.5212342]

Bros, is Skillshare good for anything? I don't like reading.

[Anonymous No.5212348]

>>5212342
bucci bucci bucci bucci

[Anonymous No.5212490]

Is it better to learn something on paper or tablet from most peoples experience, I mainly draw digital but if the lack of digital help will be better in the long run which would generally be better?

[Anonymous No.5212504]

>>5212348
marco b(oip)ucci

[Anonymous No.5213166]

>>5211226
just pick up a random seinen manga.

[Anonymous No.5213203]

>>5202437
well he said it is retard, which makes sense given your begness

[Anonymous No.5213256]

[Anonymous No.5213264]

i know i fucked up both feet, can anyone help me with that? and anything else that im not noticing

[Anonymous No.5213438]

>>5210901
When you stop copying an existing image and try to create from an idea.

No one cares if you can draw an image you can find on Google, but they take interest when you can draw the character doing things you can't normally find in a search engine.

[Anonymous No.5213620]

anyone have any idea for the process of this kind of shading? I can't find the right kind of tools/brushes that might have been used here. maybe airbrush but there's a bit of gradient/blending that I'm not sure how to replicate

[Anonymous No.5213630]

>>5213620
Just look at anything that explains light on a sphere and that should be enough desu
looks bad tho

[Anonymous No.5213707]

>>5213620
desu it's just 'cel shade but blend out almost literally every edge'
shade with pen, use water/blur tool on every edge but at a medium-small size so it looks bad
it's too soft, needs to maintain more edges than just from the hair shadow/neck, not worth replicating imo but your choice

[Anonymous No.5213762]

simping for AK-12

[Anonymous No.5213773]

>>5213203
You're both retards and deserve a retard mutt server like asg. Ill never tell what server im talking about to keep you scrubs from trying to join

[Anonymous No.5213827]

>>5199398
sharing for the purpose of sharing you can't criticize it because it's barely a doodle

[Anonymous No.5213828]

>>5213827

[Anonymous No.5214143]

>>5213828
Is that Aqua?

[Anonymous No.5214144]

What should I look for first when trying to mimic/learn from a rendering/coloring style?
I've stuck to pure drawing and sketching but now wanted to try a bit of color, but I'm not quite sure how to break down the style I aim to learn.
I tried analyzing the color pallets to see how the value changes from light to dark and so on for starters, but I'm completely lost when it comes to a workflow process.
Pic related is one of my goals, would deeply appreciate any tips or general direction anyone can point me to.

[Anonymous No.5214570]

>>5214143
It's going to be Homura from Senran Kagura.

[Anonymous No.5214644]

>>5214144
breaking down the workflow is fun
this sort of painterly thing is a little troublesome because it can be done in a lot of ways, it's often convenient to look at lines/edges

i'm going to guess they did lines here and put a base + flats down underneath, put some colours on top of the lines, shaded, coloured the lines and erased some edges, did some overpainting

but you can approach these painterly things in a lot of ways, so maybe they blocked out colours above or maybe they did it below the lines/sketch, you might get a similar result both ways

[Anonymous No.5214682]

>>5214144
I've been trying the same and trying to understand how they get appealing colors is giving me so much trouble.
My values got a little better but that's all I can do.

[Anonymous No.5214697]

>>5214644
Thank you very much for your reply. Keeping these options you mentioned in mind, I will look through their archive to look for sketches/unfinished pieces to try and piece this puzzle a little better. So thank you again for pointing me a direction.

>>5214682
I realize this will take a lot of trial and error trying to figure things out, as the other anon said, there are many ways a similar result can be achieved by a multitude of different tools and work order one might not even know about. So best of luck to you as well, anon.

[Anonymous No.5214710]

>>5214697
yeahh np i could do a copy study but honestly i rly think youd have better luck just going through everything they do ifyou want to replicate the workflow exactly/get closer to it, because workflow varies for even non-painted stuff and painterly can be more difficult to distinguish

[Anonymous No.5214727]

>>5203262
wtf is that, very well drawed but nightmareish design

[Anonymous No.5214893]

Copying things makes me feel like a shitty fraud. What do I do? I'm still ultra /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5214912]

>>5214893
Fake until you make it. You're not copying stuff to publish it, but to develop a work flow as you build millage. Now stop being a bitch about it and keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.5214955]

reminder to pay attention to nose and lips

[Anonymous No.5214967]

I'm looking for a drawing of MONA from genshin impact. It was posted on one of these anime study generals back a while ago. It was digital painting and almost made her look like clay. does anyone have it? it was a shot from her thigh up to get face.

[Anonymous No.5214969]

What kind of resource do u guys used to learn how to construct the head? Loomis doesnt seems right to anime purpose.

[Anonymous No.5215050]

>>5214969
>construct the head
>Loomis

[Anonymous No.5215218]

>>5214967
only mona i have

[Anonymous No.5215255]

>>5214969
Those from "Deconstruction illustrated" and "It's fun draw people", then from Houtengeki's book (most liked). But Loomis helped me to understand Japanese construction (it looks like refined Loomis, and some books looks like anime-ish FWAP).

[Anonymous No.5215260]

>>5214912
I understand, ty anon. I copy from the mangaka that I like.

[Anonymous No.5215273]

Can someone post a guide of how to draw this body type or just examples from alternate angles?

[Anonymous No.5215308]

>>5215273
>Can someone post a guide of how to learn anatomy completely for me to understad how styles work

[Anonymous No.5215329]

Complete noob here. This took me like 4 hours. I learned a lot. Is there anything redeeming here? I think I need some words of encouragement.

[Anonymous No.5215355]

>>5215255
Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.5215381]

>>5206682
>>5208336
Okie doke. I'll raise it a more and thin her thighs a bit more. Cuz yeah i agree it, after looking at other references it was a bit low. I also don't try to make characters so plump, it just happens naturally and i just roll with it. (Probably from the artist i look at regularly) Anyways, thanks gor the crit fellas.

[Anonymous No.5215400]

>>5215273
Looks like "standard" figure you can find in almost any anatomy drawing guide (there is a big archive in artbooks thread). Also try to search 3D scans of real peoples on the Sketchfab, it's pretty useful. Maybe this channel sketchfab.com/human-engine or another.

[Anonymous No.5215414]

>>5215218
thanks brotha, that was it

[Anonymous No.5215420]

>>5215414
cheers man
>>5215329
following a reference more closely would be beneficial

[Anonymous No.5215435]

>>5215400
Quick dumb question, if I rotate an object in that viewer does the eye level change or not?

[Anonymous No.5215441]

>>5215435
No. There is constant camera height and it looks at the center of viewport (you can zoom model to max to know eye height, for example it can be waist level). To change an eye level you should move a model higher or lower with the right mouse button.

[Anonymous No.5215451]

>>5199398

[Anonymous No.5215453]

>>5215441
Thanks. Also I just noticed there's even an option to move the lighting if you look at the help symbol, useful website.

[Anonymous No.5215454]

>>5213828
>>5214570
>>5215451
>>5214143
sketch

[Anonymous No.5215458]

>>5215435
>>5215441
If you mean "is eye level changed relative to model's toes when rotating around X or Y axis" then yes, camera is flying around model at the constant distance from model's center (controlled with mouse wheel zoom). So you should adjust camera (right button) when rotating not around Z (vertical) axis if you want to maintain eyelevel relative to other point than model center..

[Anonymous No.5215470]

>>5215451
holy shit this is literally the perfect example of ''sketch being better than the final work''

[Anonymous No.5215475]

>>5215470
>that
>final work
I hope not.

[Anonymous No.5215480]

>>5215475
but the sketch was definitely better

[Anonymous No.5215484]

i fucked up her right arm anything else that needs to be fixd asap

[Anonymous No.5215487]

>>5215458
Fuck, I don't get it. Does it work like when you're rotating a cup with your hands and right button is lifting or lowering the cup without moving your head?

[Anonymous No.5215498]

>>5215470
you're just making fun of me, deserved because I can't finish shit.

[Anonymous No.5215499]

>>5215484
fuck you for being better than me okitawaifufag.

[Anonymous No.5215533]

>>5199398
>Proko's anatomy videos on MEGA have no fast-forward option built in.
Is anatomy the main thing that gates anons from making it? Assume style is already taken care of.

[Anonymous No.5215551]

>>5215533
well, but style equals appeal mostly, right?
appeal/style skill + technical skill ---> gmi, right?

[Anonymous No.5215555]

>>5215533
no
perspective values style

[Anonymous No.5215582]

>>5215533
Perspective > anatomy
You need angles to offset the sameface nature of anime.

[Anonymous No.5215650]

>>5215451
oh, I get it, you refer to the colorded lines.
Well, yeah I have to agree, but it's not really a fair comparison if I guessed the colors.
The boobs definitely look off in the colored version.

[Anonymous No.5215653]

>>5215650
forgot to upload the earlier sketch.
I think it was this one.

[Anonymous No.5215657]

>>5215653
unfortunate but true... :^(

[Anonymous No.5215799]

>Regular use of Undo macros
>Best output rate of any anime artist.
>No qualms with drawing hands and poses that are different from the last.
Um bros? Explain?

[Anonymous No.5215966]

>>5215799
Explain what

[Anonymous No.5215977]

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>>5215975
>>5215975
>>5215975

[Anonymous No.5216000]

guys, where is the resource to translate the japaneses books?

[Anonymous No.5216190]

>>5215487
Yes, it is.

[Anonymous No.5216277]

>>5199726
Uuuugghgghghhhghhg!

[Anonymous No.5216301]

>>5206317
Maybe I'm being a dingus but could her face be too wide?

[Anonymous No.5216307]

>>5206679
Thank you very much. Back to Brent Eviston's lessons

[Anonymous No.5216313]

>>5206446
Left leg hip looks dislocated, I don't have any references now but unironically go look at thicc thots, porn, whatever girl that looks like this. I also feel like the legs are too far apart at the cunt area? But I don't have experience drawing that so take my words with salt.