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Tom Fox Course Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:34:16 2021 No.5196116 [Reply] [Original]

Hey!

Did anyone get it?
https://tomfoxteaches.com/

>inb it's shit and we have Loomis and Vilppu
I don't care. I want someone who can teach in a formulaic way, like literally spoonfeed me "do this, then do this. Now do this 50 times". Besides, his stuff looks cool, I've always been interested in direct drawing, not that bs "gesture is important hurrdurr always start with flowy lines hurrdurr you gotta draw with force brah fast and loose".

The fast approach has NEVER helped me - I learned to draw skulls by literally drawing every bone separately from every angle and then combining them, not starting with "a loose sketch".

The guys that have been truly helpful are the superani artists (KJG), Tom Fox, Will Weston, Peter Han, Karl Kopinski, Frazetta etc.

Anything similar?
Are people interested in any figure drawing course group buys? I'm willing to pitch in like 100usd.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:40:42 2021 No.5196125 Some interesting classes for a potential GB: https://drawingamerica.com/courses/will-weston-figure-drawing-winter-2021/ https://coloso.co.kr/illust_webtoon/illustrator_seokjunghyun

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:42:24 2021 No.5196128 >>5196116 just learn to draw from observation retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:42:58 2021 No.5196132 >>5196116 Get a job, loser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:43:02 2021 No.5196133 >>5196128 I don't want to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:45:14 2021 No.5196137 >>5196133 then how the fuck you're ever going to learn anything from any course whatsoever if you can't even observe and interpret it to a drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:48:45 2021 No.5196142 >>5196137 I want shortcuts. "Just draw brah" is boring - I want to get there faster, use every possible opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:49:46 2021 No.5196147 >>5196116 Sure let me take my hard earned money and rip the course just for you. Fuck off. Go flip some burgers kid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:50:18 2021 No.5196149 >>5196142 draw what you see isn't just draw retard, go kys, thread hidden

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:53:06 2021 No.5196158 >>5196147 I'm asking if anyone has it, not for someone to rip it lol. I'm also suggesting group buys.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:56:44 2021 No.5196165

>>5196158
Let’s say I had the course (I was going to buy this a while back but hesitated because he’s a literal nobody), this implies you want me to share it with you.

If you want an opinion then fine. But that also implies you save up your patty flipping money for the course.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 10:59:43 2021 No.5196169 >>5196128 Observation skills alone does not teach you to draw from imagination. You can draw gorgeous portraits and figure drawings and still draw stick men from imagination

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:05:22 2021 No.5196179 >>5196169 op wants to draw what someone else shows him exactly what to draw, observation drawing will take care of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:07:35 2021 No.5196184 >>5196179 No, he said he wants to be given clear assignments. Perhaps your brain is just too miniscule to comprehend the difference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:09:02 2021 No.5196186 >>5196184 exactly, drawing from observation will take care of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:11:49 2021 No.5196189 I really don't understand how you people have 2 terabytes TWO TB of courses for FREE and you're still hungry for more shit.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:20:55 2021 No.5196218

>>5196189
There's literally no course out there that teaches this kind of constructive method like KJG etc. uses. Most, if not all courses are this typical "start with gestuuuree, feel the flow" scribble shit. I'm not interested in that nor has it ever helped me.

Hell, when I was a complete beg, freaking Riven Phoenix was the most helpful even though his art is subpar - he was incredibly methodical, technical and didn't do any of that "gesture" bs

I completely agree w/ this guy, it's been exactly like that for me:
https://youtu.be/oYktoy1-i2k?t=1305..

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:23:07 2021 No.5196226 >>5196218 pyw

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:25:14 2021 No.5196231

>>5196218
I completely agree with you. I spent the better half of my journey getting pissed off a the wishy/washy gesture method shilled by Hampton/Vilppu/Nacorda/X Art Center Mattessi teachers. None of their "methods" made much seense.

There was one teacher, Ron Lemen, who uses armatures and that's a bit better than other methods but still something is lacking. I like the way asian artists approach the figure. And the good old stickman works as long as you modify it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:26:16 2021 No.5196235 >>5196231 However, that still doesn't dismiss you guys wanting more shit, group buy or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:28:26 2021 No.5196240 >>5196116 them's some wonky skulls

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:29:12 2021 No.5196243 Ngmi thread, you could have ALL the tutorials made by mankind, it won't help you draw shit if you don't put in the 12+ hours daily of practice

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:50:21 2021 No.5196281 File: 71 KB, 650x600, 1529367250181.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5196116 Cool! thanks for sharing, Tom! I'll be sure to pirate it as soon as the lesson finishes!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 11:53:10 2021 No.5196284 >>5196281 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 12:33:54 2021 No.5196365 >>5196186 No, it won't

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 13:55:09 2021 No.5196563 I'd be interested in a group buy of the Will Weston figure drawing course. How are these things usually organized?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:17:56 2021 No.5196592 >>5196563 We had one a while back (the cheaper ones, composition and class etc.) I made a new discord if anyone is interested in GB the new figure drawing course. https://discord.gg/8TdNyrjG

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:20:29 2021 No.5196595

>>5196563
>How are these things usually organized?
On other websites lmao on here broke people just use these sort of threads as an opportunity to larp about their bigbux

hey OP get a job lmao I buy all the courses I want because I have shit loads of cash lmao laughingfrog.jpeg haha

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:24:52 2021 No.5196601 >>5196595 It really depends desu. We had one for the cheaper Weston ones.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:26:21 2021 No.5196606 >>5196601 Lol, I have no idea why I wrote "desu". I have literally no recollection of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:33:51 2021 No.5196622 >>5196592 Will Weston is shit, don't buy his courses

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:38:59 2021 No.5196632 >>5196622 One of the few that have actually helped me

>>	BLOBBERS Wed Feb 10 14:40:13 2021 No.5196635 >>5196231 the lack of clarity isn't coming from hampton / vilppu. it's coming from your own lack of mileage. feel the form, motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:41:10 2021 No.5196636 >>5196635 It's just that this approach looks and feels like shit.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:50:57 2021 No.5196657

>>5196116
I'm the same way, I prefer to memorize proportions and learn from perspective and anatomy books over the Vilppu, Watts etc shit. I don't get what you're supposed to learn from life drawing.

>I want someone who can teach in a formulaic way, like literally spoonfeed me "do this, then do this. Now do this 50 times".
that would be nice but i dont think it exists

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:52:36 2021 No.5196663 >>5196635 I feel your mothers forms instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:53:23 2021 No.5196664 >>5196116 >literally spoonfeed me "do this, then do this that’s literally what vilppu does

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 14:56:30 2021 No.5196674 >>5196657 Tom Fox pretty much does that. As does Riven Phoenix, but his art is.. Not that great lol. >>5196664 Nope. He's very "artistic" in his approach. I hate the "flowy", "force" stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 15:11:27 2021 No.5196708 >>5196674 >Tom Fox I didn't know about this guy, thanks. I wish i could watch his courses lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:25:11 2021 No.5196845 >>5196708 Yeah, he's pretty interesting. He's apparently making a book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:30:05 2021 No.5196858 >>5196845 He's pretty amazing, he doesn't seem to be on KJG's level but he's doing something similar. I watched KJG's courses and while they're interesting and learnt from them, he doesn't put much effort or planning into them

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 16:31:59 2021 No.5196867 >>5196858 He's like a "non-talented" KJG who achieved his skill be sheer work.

>>	BLOBBERS Wed Feb 10 17:14:14 2021 No.5196991 if all you want out of art is Jung Gi bullshit, then just study the way he does shit. Go to the mega and download KJG, and work on that. Just realize even if you perfectly grasp the approach, you'll never be as overrated as him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 10 17:16:27 2021 No.5196998 >>5196991 I don't care about fame. I just want to be able to draw whatever comes up my mind in any angle without guidelines, for fun.