/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5190226]

What's their secret to render anime girls like this? I think it's not just simple hard round brush.

[Anonymous No.5190228]

Okay, soft round brush.

[Anonymous No.5190232]

>>5190228
pls be serious, I just want to make fanarts of my waifu look as good as this.

[Anonymous No.5190237]

>>5190226
There is no secret you retard, go grind your fundies.

[Anonymous No.5190259]

>>5190232
I don't see any texture in there so it's very likely to be exactly what he says.
The rest of it is good line art and design.
Do you understand that you were just making another "how to draw well?" post?

[Anonymous No.5190286]

>>5190232
So get grinding and studying these images instead of asking /ic/ a question you already know the fucking answer to.

[Anonymous No.5190291]

>>5190226
You dont want to learn.
You dont like drawing

You just want someone else to do you work and get easy money

[Anonymous No.5190304]

>>5190226
>>5190232
what's so special about this shit? or you're just click baiting?

[Anonymous No.5190307]

>>5190304
yes

[Anonymous No.5190309]

>>5190232
it’s unironically just an airbrush and a hard brush/eraser

[Anonymous No.5190339]

>>5190226
softhard roundsquare brush is the answer you are looking for.

[Anonymous No.5190344]

>>5190226
Either airbrush + hard eraser or hard round brush + soft eraser. The "hard round only" meme is for painting, not simplistic Pixiv front page style rendering like this.

[Anonymous No.5190499]

>>5190226
you already made this thread
>>5189038
>>5189038
>>5189038

[Anonymous No.5190510]

>>5190226

if you cant see thats a painted over 3d model then honey hold up lemme explain

[Anonymous No.5190529]

ok ill have it done by tonight your request

and yes its basically just hard round + blending + color picking up + rinse and repeat

[Anonymous No.5190546]

>>5190529

[Anonymous No.5190561]

>>5190546
lol thanks for the "tutorial" its worthless

[Anonymous No.5190562]

>>5190561

im getting there bro chill

[Anonymous No.5190570]

>>5190561
if you cant have patience for a guy to draw what you want to draw, how can you expect to have patience to draw it yourself?

[Anonymous No.5190572]

>>5190561
Not that anon but, is because you are brainlet.
The shit is literally do flat coloring and then blur, or, use a big soft brush and then erase, using layers or mask layers.
You can just block shapes and use a soft blend brush like the ones in Sai, and they do all the job

[Anonymous No.5190577]

>>5190561
>>>/ic/beg
Stay irrelevant forever

[Anonymous No.5190579]

>>5190529
>>5190546
>>5190562
>hard round blending
literally why
why is this meme pushed so much? it’s either an airbrush or sai watercolor, why the fuck would you waste 10 times as much time to get a less smooth transition?

[Anonymous No.5190586]

>>5190572
That's not what our genius is showing us how to do in MS Paint now is it?

[Anonymous No.5190601]

>>5190226
Square round brush.

[Anonymous No.5190606]

>>>5190561
that anon is showing the block and blend method.

>>5190579
don't really matters, all depend of what are you dong and your method of painting. If you paint similar to the traditional painting, then you can do the same like blocking al the major shapes or as you can manage with no effort, and then detail.
Some people do that in the same layer, hard brush and work with the opacity then detail, others do several layers and then retouch everything in top layers and merge, other divide the body shape in part and focus in each one (as sakimichan used to do, i dont know if she still do it), since most programs allow yo to do multi-selection around layers, you can adjust anything later.
It really depends of your personal way of drawing. No rules just tools.

[Anonymous No.5190615]

>>5190606
>step by step for an obviously airbrushed image
>I’ll pretend I’m painting like one of my artstation space marine concept artists
just stop feeding newfags this shit, it’s annoying

[Anonymous No.5190631]

this thread will be one of the reasons why I will never get into painting

[Anonymous No.5190637]

>>5190631
god, I want to sit on her face so my balls are in her orbits and her nose pokes into my butthole

[Anonymous No.5190689]

>>5190637
I want her to okaa-san my ass.
I want her to bend down and show me her cleavage while asking me if I want more mac and cheese.
Then she fucking jiggles them shits to fuck with me and turns around revealing her perfect plump ass while she goes to the stove to get me more mac and cheese.
While she is serving md, I want her to 'accidentally' push her breasts against the back of my head as she serves me from behind.
Then I will go to her room while she sleeps and murder her husband after I have xanaxed her drink.
Then I will have my way with her as I yell, "mou deru!!!" and impregnate her with my spanish babies and become a disgrace to my own family.
She will wake up in my parent's bed and wonder where she is and what happened to her husband.
I will assure her that everything is fine.
Then my fucking child will cut it's way through the womb and out through her stomach using her own spine as a blade and recieving the aptitude of the blade from his genes by way of my oldest ancestors.
He will look at me with his dead and cold eyes as he holds her spine in his hands and say, "you have discraced our family and its name. I have come back from the dead to kill you."
Then I will die.
While i am dying, I will remember my last nut.
"Damn was it worth it," i say to myself as i breathe my last breath.

[Anonymous No.5190695]

>>5190606
You can use both and get a similar outcome.
Soft brush then work with layers, or flat colors then blend.
Of course the second option is more hard in photoshop because their blend tool is shit. That's why people use sai o csp because their blend tools are the best.

[Anonymous No.5190707]

>>5190695
the smudged one looks like shit and has the exact same shitty artifacting as photoshop

[Anonymous No.5190708]

>>5190695
saved

[Anonymous No.5190713]

>>5190631
>im not getting into painting because of other low iq retards
>hehehehe did i mention im also a low iq retard?
>hehehe

[Anonymous No.5190715]

>>5190226
>>5190232
AHHHHH IM GONNA CO0-O0O00OO0O00O0O0OO0MMMMM

[Anonymous No.5190722]

>>5190228
based

[Anonymous No.5190756]

>>5190695
I don’t get it, what’s so good about the sai smudge? Looks like the same shit as all the others, pic related, 3 of them

[Anonymous No.5190779]

>>5190756
i don't know, but the sai's brushes are made different than in other programs, is like an consecutive of raster images, that you can clearly see when you increase the size of your brush to the biggest sizes, you can see that the paint are separated in different consecutive parts, and that's why the brushes can get really fucking big and you are not gonna have lag while you paint across the canvas, compared to other programs like photoshop, where if you don't have a decent computer you are going to have a horrible lag when using brushes of such size.
Maybe because of that all the blend brushes work really smooth. blending in csp feel similar but of course the program demands a lot more than sai.

[Anonymous No.5190786]

>>5190779
nigga wat

[Anonymous No.5190790]

wow /ic/ actually came to my defense for once neat

honestly if you can't figure out how color pick -> paint -> blend ->color pick from said blends -> paint your way into anything

then i might as well be describing purple haze to a deaf dumb and blind man

[Anonymous No.5190826]

>>5190790
finish the step-by-step so I can laugh at the cast iron anime ass

[Anonymous No.5190943]

>>5190786
open Ssai make a line with a big brush and see it by yourself

[Anonymous No.5190968]

>>5190226
Rendering is the easiest part of this pic. What makes it good is the solid drawing skill of the artist.

[Anonymous No.5191063]

>>5190968
^^^^^^^^^^

[Anonymous No.5191137]

>>5190779
if you set the spacing higher in csp it'll be more like sai. another issue is the blend feature. it defaults to basically a gaussian blur over the whole image and is almost never what you want. changing from automatic to fixed and then 0 is probably closer to what most people want or expect.

for a hard round, i like painting or drawing at narrow or normal and smudging at about 9. i play with color stretch constantly from about 10 to 98, at 100 it's a stamp of whatever point you sampled. you can get away with upping a 2 roundness airbrush to about 25 spacing before you start seeing the pattern. i used a soft round for this at 25 spacing, sometimes drawing with it or adjusting flow down to 10-30%

[Anonymous No.5191154]

>>5190226
It actually is dummy

[Anonymous No.5191197]

>>5190226
It's literally just hard brush and blur.

[Anonymous No.5191204]

just use a fucking blend tool, retarded begtard.

[Anonymous No.5191361]

>>5190226
>shading with black

[Anonymous No.5191659]

>>5190779
lmao is this retard talking about about stamps?

[Anonymous No.5191664]

>>5191154
>it’s hard round
>blur
pick one, retard
hard round refers to mixing via colorpicking like the one guy itt tried to do but gave up because it looked like shit
blending brushes, smudge, etc is not hrb, the reason people tell you to use a hrb is so you learn to mix colors, which you’re not doing by using crutches

[Anonymous No.5191674]

>>5190226
Looks like a 3d model
Yea that isn't hot

[Anonymous No.5191707]

>>5191137
that's good info anon. I'm gonna check that the next time in the program. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.5191714]

>>5190779
that’s literally how every single raster. software works, dumb weeb

[Anonymous No.5191886]

>>5191664
>pick one, retard
>hard round refers to mixing via colorpicking like the one guy itt tried to do but gave up because it looked like shit
>blending brushes, smudge, etc is not hrb, the reason people tell you to use a hrb is so you learn to mix colors, which you’re not doing by using crutches
Gotta love how /ic/ has its own bizarre, convoluted theories about art that the actual art world, or the entire world outside /ic/, doesn't share. Yes I'm talking about you.

[Anonymous No.5191891]

>>5191137
>automatic to fixed and then 0 is probably closer to what most people want or expect.
True, I noticed the blur effect on auto. but if you put a fixed of 0 it won't blend at all won't it?

[Anonymous No.5191901]

>>5191886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEkxPRzDVLk
It always meant that, retard.
See also: muddycolors and entire ctrl+paint

[Anonymous No.5191913]

>>5191886
that’s exactly what means everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

[Anonymous No.5192045]

so, dumb question, but is there any way to make colors not go over lineart, or to block it into the lineart if a certain color, or something? I know there's a bunch of tools that let you fill-color

[Anonymous No.5192052]

>>5192045
have a layer with flats, set to reference, then select with wand set to reference according to working area
or use masks, easily made with the above

[Anonymous No.5192055]

>>5192045
shit nigga you´re way at the beggining on this stuff.

as someone who does it for some time, my advice is to learn the basic and intermediate cellshading coloring techniques with layers and learn painting on the side, when you get to the advanced part you will learn that its ALL painting.

[Anonymous No.5192056]

>>5192055
I just hate painting, it so often turns my kind of ok lineart + only slightly broken anatomy into a mess

[Anonymous No.5192061]

>>5192056
protip: your lineart is shit and your anatomy is shit
painting never made something good bad

[Anonymous No.5192064]

>>5192056
thats why I think you should practice painting on the side

learn the standard coloring techniques for lineart and cellshading, its the easiest stuff to do, layer clipping is the most basic stuff you must learn.

learn to manipulate the multiply blending mode to do shading.

start working with vector lineart for maximum control.

and practice painting alongside, once you dominate basic cellshading painting will allow you to step up your coloring techniques.

[Anonymous No.5192072]

[Anonymous No.5192124]

>>5190226
>>5190232
this is barely rendered beg anon

[Anonymous No.5192128]

>>5190707
beglet

[Anonymous No.5192130]

>>5192128
pyw smudgecuck

[Anonymous No.5192150]

>>5191886
it's usually a delusional ego fag who's trying to double down on his made up theory rather than acknowledge his stupidity. Nowhere in the eastern art scene is hard round a synonym for "mixing via colorpicking" lol

[Anonymous No.5192153]

>>5192130
you're not allowed to talk to artists beg faggot

[Anonymous No.5192181]

>>5192153
why do you shitpost when we both know you can’t draw?

[Anonymous No.5192238]

>>5192128
it’s literally the same, retard >>5190756

[Anonymous No.5192244]

>>5190232
Who is your waifu?

[Anonymous No.5192248]

>>5190232
he is serious. this is the answer. do you have brain damage?

[Anonymous No.5192264]

>>5190226
>>5190232
You need to use sakundie's.

[Anonymous No.5192727]

>>5191361
where is it shaded with black

[Anonymous No.5192747]

>>5190232
it's soft square brush at 5% opacity and 75% flow

[Anonymous No.5192750]

>>5190579
pyw

[Anonymous No.5193483]

>>5191891
>but if you put a fixed of 0 it won't blend at all won't it?
Color stretch becomes your control for blur then and it becomes more of a smudge than mixing brush. You have to do a bit more massaging of the pigment with the brush but I find the results way better performing and aesthetically pleasing.

[Anonymous No.5193792]

>>5193483
OP how about this? It's from "ichi-up". Can be done with one color layer (also uses as mask layer) and one-two layers per light and shadow (I hope there is enough one "burn+dodge" layer but yet hasn't soft supporting so lewd mode). Can I see what you trying to render?

[Anonymous No.5193804]

>>5190695
i'm digging that half coochie

[Anonymous No.5193890]

>>5193792
is it my phone or the image got shrink down to shit quality

[Anonymous No.5193913]

>>5190562
you bit a lot more than you could chew huh

[Anonymous No.5193918]

>>5193890
The image is tiny. Can't see shit.

[Anonymous No.5193920]

>>5190226
There is a reason painting a sphere is an exercise, go back to /beg/ retard

[Anonymous No.5193934]

>>5192747
Will start doing this now thanks, I don't even care if you're being serious

[Anonymous No.5194425]

>>5191361
100% black (#000000) is pretty kino, anon...

[Anonymous No.5194752]

>>5193890
It's image. https://ichi-up.net/2016/092

[Anonymous No.5194825]

>>5190226
Actually... this IS pretty much hard round brush on pressure opacity
You need to learn to blend colors, understand how light works, etc

[Anonymous No.5194829]

>>5190562
this... is not at all how any of this works, but nice trolling, anon

[Anonymous No.5194837]

softu roundo brushu

[Anonymous No.5194839]

>>5194425
>ears

[Anonymous No.5195110]

this was a legitimately good thread. i know my shit is garbage but it gave me to try. thank you

[Anonymous No.5195135]

>>5195110
it wasn’t a good thread and you didn’t try

[Anonymous No.5195143]

>>5195110
Like I said before bro, you need a mouse that doesn't have angle snapping if you're going to draw with a mouse.

[Anonymous No.5195167]

>>5195110
gj mousechad

[Anonymous No.5195202]

>>5195135
>>5195143
>>5195167
Im not the op app none of you have me advice previously. You may have given someone else advice. I just decided to give it a try. I have an intruos 4. It's fucking worthless. Worse than a mouse I think. I could draw slither lines with an etch a sketch

[Anonymous No.5195249]

>>5193792
source? is the book called ichi-up or is it online tutorial?

[Anonymous No.5195960]

>>5195249
>>5194752

[Anonymous No.5195968]

Round brush. Blur tool. not sucking ass.

[Anonymous No.5196187]

>>5190226
Step 1: Base color
Step 2: Color pick the image you want to copy
Step 3: Add in hard shadows
Step 4: Use soft brush and shade

It's easier than it looks. The drawing part is what's going to kill you

[Anonymous No.5196192]

>>5196187
>color pick
lol

[Anonymous No.5196196]

>>5196187
>Step 1: Trace

[Anonymous No.5197201]

>>5190226
do you like neonbeats art? he uses nothing but sai water tool to blend blocks of color, nothing else. it's even the reason he uses sai instead of cps and photoshop because "the water tool is too good". I also know it's not a lie because I watched him draw this entire piece in real time.

[Anonymous No.5197710]

Simple answer: Git gud.

[Anonymous No.5198101]

>>5192072
this is a decent one

[Anonymous No.5198129]

>>5197201
>sai water tool
Do you mean the basic water color brush or something different?

[Anonymous No.5198133]

I thought hard round brush wasn't supposed to blend at all. Can I get a definitive answer on what a hard round brush is supposed to be and how to blend with it? You people are always contradicting each other and never post brush settings

Seriously if there was a categoric answer for once we wouldn't have this thread 3 different times every single day

[Anonymous No.5198176]

>>5198133
Hard round brush is a brush with no blending or smoothing on the edges. When people say HRB they mean using a hard round brush with pressure sensitive opacity, so you can lay down a variety of values. The point being that what's important is good values, shapes and edges, not fancy brushes.
It doesn't mean that you can't or should not use blending tools, or that hard round brush is better. It's just that even the barebones HRB is sufficient to create a good painting when you're skilled.

[Anonymous No.5198202]

>>5198176
What about flow/density? I did a portrait recently and had the hardest time blending stuff to the point I had to leave the hair as only solid shapes

[Anonymous No.5198265]

>>5197201
>muh SAI brush folded a million times
>still looks worse than CSP and PS ones

[Anonymous No.5198276]

>>5198176
>When people say HRB they mean using a hard round brush with pressure sensitive opacity
They literally don't, though.

[Anonymous No.5198280]

>>5198176
>>5198276
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.5198992]

>>5197201
>muh water tool
just make a smudge brush with scattering and move to a real program.

[Anonymous No.5198995]

>>5198992
it blends like shit, the water brush already work nice from the base,

[Anonymous No.5199000]

>>5198995
>Saibabies are low iq niggers who cant learn how to configure your tool
ngmi

[Anonymous No.5199008]

>>5198280
it’s a retarded crab, see
>>5191901
>>5191913

[Anonymous No.5199014]

>>5198992
smudge is literally nothing like it, shove the 30% scatter 2% strength meme up your nigger ass
sai’s brush engine actually blends the brush color with the surface color, it’s like a better mixer brush
>t. photoshop user

[Anonymous No.5199022]

Every single day
>How do I render like that ?
>Picrel has no rendering whatsoever

[Anonymous No.5199034]

>>5199014
and pictures made in SAI still look worse than drawings painted in CSP because every non-meme SAI brush is a single hard round brush tweaked in some way

[Anonymous No.5199036]

>>5199014
the water tool doesnt blend any colors, it has no brush color you fucktard.

[Anonymous No.5199103]

>>5190562
Bro, what are you doing? Most anime art starts wit a solid line art then the follow a techinque like this>>5190695

Air brush and smooth water colour tool is what they mainly use. Hard round to lay the initial shadaing then blend it.

[Anonymous No.5200933]

>>5195202
Get lazy nezumi pro, you can even pirate it, helped me do decent enough lineart with a mouse anyway