/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.5186954]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the Drawthread with fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

Sticky document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it!
Previous thread: >>5182556

[Anonymous No.5186957]

Drew a fat steed real quick to get this thread started right.

[Anonymous No.5186959]

>>5186957
gmi

[Anonymous No.5186962]

>>5186957
Pumba?

[Anonymous No.5186966]

One more time because I posted in a dead thread.
I did this. New with a tablet. Drawing neat lines is fucking hard

[Anonymous No.5186972]

ears

[Anonymous No.5186976]

>>5186972
Oh fuck oh yes I can FEEL the form

[Anonymous No.5186977]

>>5186966
>Drawing neat lines is fucking hard
it gets easier with time.

[Anonymous No.5186978]

>>5186966
you expect to be called talented or something?

[Anonymous No.5186994]

>>5186978
No, I actually wondered If there are tips to neat lines and not weird curves. I don't think this is good at all, I actually hoped you'd tell me If It looks like It could be attractive with more work

[Anonymous No.5186997]

>>5186966
yeah drawing lines with a tablet is very hard for me too. check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBE-RTFkXDk&ab_channel=BaMAnimation

[Anonymous No.5187001]

>>5186976
yeah i was feeling the form pretty hard when i drew that

[Anonymous No.5187030]

>>5186954
Hello fellow begs , i have a question?
Do you consider the time you spend reading a book or watching/listening a tutorial as part of your practice time? , i been trying to make the most of the time i have to practice but i'm kind of annoyed that around a third of the time im spending it reading or listening to the resource/lesson and i find hard to call it part of the practice time, do you people start doing the practice/excercises right after listening to the resource or you do it on another time?

[Anonymous No.5187034]

>>5187030
>Do you consider the time you spend reading a book or watching/listening a tutorial as part of your practice time?
Yes, but I know that I am lying to myself

[Anonymous No.5187035]

>>5186966
>>5186994
depends on the software you're using
any decent software will have a brush stabilizer, and you will need to learn how it works, it can be strange at first
you might also try the CTRL+Z/undo strategy
zoom out, find a curve, and try to do it quickly in one smooth motion on a new layer
didn't get the right curve? undo it and try again
do this really quickly over and over
if your tablet has buttons, it helps to set one to undo
that way you can build speed drawing the curve and undoing it

[Anonymous No.5187038]

>>5184573
Finally. Not perfect, but that's enough for now

[Anonymous No.5187042]

>>5187038
Noticeable progress anon,
good job!

[Anonymous No.5187051]

>>5187030
>Do you consider the time you spend reading a book or watching/listening a tutorial as part of your practice time?
not as practice per se, but as time spend towards my goal. so if I set aside an hour for drawing, and I watch an one hour lesson then I consider done. I try to do more practice than theory tho.

[Anonymous No.5187061]

>>5187038
So, here with reference, from the first to the most recent. I think drawing the same thing multiple times helps much more than just drawing multiple things after each other.

I can't really pinpoint the differences to the reference though. how do I have to look at it?

>>5187038
thanks!

[Anonymous No.5187063]

>>5187061
>>5187042

I thanked myself, i may be retarded
Thanks to you ofc

[red-sketch-anon !!JQ4C8WMEsFI No.5187090]

Repost since I fixed it up with some additional touches and it was at the end of the last thread. Any things that stick out? I feel like the upper torso is a bit weird but can't put my finger on it, and I'm sure the face is off in terms of perspective.

[Anonymous No.5187104]

>>5186954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh0vUxWc6ns

[Anonymous No.5187116]

Guys am I improving or not

[Anonymous No.5187121]

>>5187116
6 months schizo...

[Anonymous No.5187124]

>>5187121
Am I improving or not? It's a simple question

[Anonymous No.5187126]

>>5187116
Not

[Anonymous No.5187127]

>>5187126
WHY?

[Anonymous No.5187132]

is it a less efficient way of learning to draw with references from google or something

[Anonymous No.5187135]

Tfw you dont see the major proportional errors until youre already finished

[red-sketch-anon !!JQ4C8WMEsFI No.5187137]

>>5187135
F. Yeah that mid-section needs to be just chopped off by like an inch. It's a good mistake to make though if you recognized it, even if it was after it was done. If anything, everything else about the sketch looks nice anon. You're literally almost there.

[Anonymous No.5187138]

AAAAAA so I'm not improving then
I see

[Anonymous No.5187140]

Improving is then reserved for thossssssse TAlented
Ahhh I get it

[Anonymous No.5187144]

>>5187135
it looks nice, keep grinding

[Anonymous No.5187146]

>>5187135
>>5187090
>>5187061
>>5187038
nicccccccee Talent

[Anonymous No.5187162]

>>5187127
mental illness

[SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELIN(...) No.5187163]

>>5187162
ITS SO EMBARRASING

[SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELIN(...) No.5187166]

>>5187162
WOAHHHHHHH WOAH OHHHHHH AH HA NANANANANA

[Anonymous No.5187169]

>>5187061
I remember that first drawing, I thought it was Keanu Reeves lol, nice progress

[Anonymous No.5187175]

>>5187169
omg I love keanu reeves

[SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELIN(...) No.5187177]

>>5187162
why?

[Anonymous No.5187186]

[SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELIN(...) No.5187187]

WHATS THE REASSSSON FOR NO IMPROVEMENT?

[Anonymous No.5187188]

>>5187169
kek, you were the "breathtaking" comment?

[Anonymous No.5187190]

>>5187188
Yeah, you replied with a Loomis head lol

[Anonymous No.5187196]

i need practice and motivation
i will sketch whoever replies to this comment with the name of a celebrity

[Anonymous No.5187199]

>>5187196
Kramer

[Anonymous No.5187201]

>>5187196
Emma Roberts

[Anonymous No.5187206]

>>5187196
Ultimate Warrior

[Anonymous No.5187217]

>>5187186
um

[Anonymous No.5187218]

>>5187190

[Anonymous No.5187228]

>>5187061
Nice progress! I like to draw, analyze and re-draw too.
You can flip the reference and your drawing to compare them. Or, you can layer your drawing over the reference and lower the opacity.
If you can't do either, just flip your drawing and the ref upside-down or hold both up to the mirror.
I also find working on something else then coming back to the drawing helpful to finding mistakes. You should look at the angles of his left eye and brow, on our right, it looks a bit off.

[Anonymous No.5187231]

>>5187116
I looked at it once and thought, oh this looks amazing

on closer inspection, your lines are so wonky shapes are fucked up (the peak roof). did you even attempt to use a ruler or any sort of instrument to measure and keep your lines straight?? also just dont add pube looking seagulls to make up for a background.

your shading is decent but needs more work, the rock formation at the base of the building is good, but it feels flat and could use more broken up rock and ridges.

[Anonymous No.5187235]

>>5187218
nice stuff keep up the good work anon

[Anonymous No.5187241]

>>5186957
An absolute unit.

>>5186972
Nice, you're feeling the form. Keep an eye on angles and proportions, that top left ear looks like it skewed to the right a little.

>>5187038
You're getting a lot closer. Have you tried drawing your reference upside down? It may help you see it for what it is, lines and angles, and break your visual bias. Try it.

>>5187135
It happens, just learn from it for next time. If you finish something and live with the mistakes, the pain of looking at it will help you avoid the mistake for next time.

[Anonymous No.5187248]

>>5187196
Carrot top on the gazelle exercise machine

[Anonymous No.5187261]

>>5187231
No, i didnt
and i know, i wasnt feeling the background
Thanks! I like the rocks the best but this was a failure
Anon, whats the reason for my lack of improvement? >>5187148

[Chainsaw Man No.5187265]

>>5186954
Can someone help by giving info on how to do anime heads looking up.

[Anonymous No.5187274]

whats the reason i cant improve anons? is it a lack of talent? this guy is way more talented>>5187061
is it talent? then that means all of you will hit a wall eventually, statistics
but is it talent

[Anonymous No.5187279]

>>5187274
you are good what do you mean?
and you could always get some professional feedback to guide you better if you want to

[Anonymous No.5187280]

>>5187279
what do you mean im good check this
>>5187162
>>5187121
>>5187126
see? Three answers that told me that im not improving, three answers so it must be true

[Anonymous No.5187286]

>>5187279
another anon did a way better job at that pic so im not good i should be better 5 months and now six and this is what my figure drawings look like
going to a real life teacher would be a waste or a pros since im not talented enough for it
I should be better
A child can do better than all ive done in my 6 months

[Anonymous No.5187287]

Does this pattern brush look dumb in my lizard? How do I draw lizard skin patterns?

[Anonymous No.5187292]

>>5187287
it's flat you autism no form

[Anonymous No.5187298]

>>5187286
>i should be better 5 months and now six
just dont stress out because of some months
>going to a real life teacher would be a waste or a pros since im not talented enough for it
thats where I cant help you but you can go in some Discords and get free feedback and even some twitch streamers who are very good give you feedback when you ask nicely

[Anonymous No.5187299]

>>5187287

[Anonymous No.5187309]

>>5187298
i have to stress out because its been months with no real progress, thats horrible
i failed and keep failing and thats not the issue the issue is failing WITHOUT progress
beg tells me to quit because im talentless, should I?
WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE FUCKING PROBLEM? WHY AM I NOT IMPROVING?

[Anonymous No.5187319]

>>5187309
of course you are not quitting
>i failed and keep failing and thats not the issue the issue is failing WITHOUT progress
then look at what you failed at and redraw it even multiple times until it worked out. You also will work on your mindset because you will hit bigger plateaus at one point anyway.

[Anonymous No.5187323]

[Anonymous No.5187324]

>>5187299
senpai sugoi!

[Anonymous No.5187331]

>>5187274
It looks too masculine.
>>5187309
for how long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.5187332]

>>5187331
6 MONTHS
4 months 4 hours a day fundies every single day
Talent is real and Im evidence, im negative talent

[Anonymous No.5187334]

>>5187331
>>5187332
Well, we are on week 1 of month 6

[Anonymous No.5187336]

>>5187332
I think your sketch is pretty good, and you're still kinda new at drawing. Do you have more things to show?
Don't give up!
Oc talent is real, and working a lot is also real and necessary.

[Anonymous No.5187343]

>>5187336
Lies, no one who started as shit can become good, there is no precedent, and if there is its all talent, i dont need your pity.
>>5187336
>Oc talent is real, and working a lot is also real and necessary.
Then that's all that matters
natural born talent>hard work

[Anonymous No.5187350]

>>5187343
Nice loomis head

[Anonymous No.5187351]

>>5187343
Of natural talent is > anything else. In the real world, most people have no talent in any field and should be be waggies for what it matters. If you're shitty, too bad, but if you're normal-normal+, work will make you good (not great). My point was, a talented person with no work will be a waste of talent. But an unskilled artist with be a waste of time.
Also, the shoes does not look good, the lines are hesitant.

[Anonymous No.5187352]

>>5187199
may or may not finish lol
i'm left handed and have the death grip that cramps after awhile

[Anonymous No.5187354]

>>5187350
It's not nice, it's a copy, I don't want to be Xerox.
>>5187351
People ought to be castrated, are you calling ME TALENTLESS? Im not a human like you, shitty human body but avian mind, I fuck mammals like you and eat them
Should I give up?

[Anonymous No.5187361]

>>5187323
excuse me? rude

[Anonymous No.5187365]

>>5186954
wh-why did you use my picture as OP

[Anonymous No.5187369]

>>5187354
>Should I give up?
Do you enjoy drawing? If you do, no. If it's no fun, frustration and is something you'd rather not do (like chores) yes.

[Anonymous No.5187394]

>>5187369
I enjoy things Im not good at, can I draw like I want or not?

[Anonymous No.5187399]

AM I TALENTLESS? NEW INFORMATION COMES TO LIGHT
IT SHOULD TAKE A YEAR TO BE A PRO

[Anonymous No.5187400]

>>5187399
redo the right leg

[Anonymous No.5187401]

>>>/vg/323603595

[Anonymous No.5187402]

dumping some of my notes from massage therapy school, idk maybe theyll help someone

[Anonymous No.5187403]

>>5187402

[Anonymous No.5187405]

>>5187402
>>5187403

[Anonymous No.5187407]

>>5187402
>>5187403
>>5187405

[Anonymous No.5187410]

>>5187400
i DONT redo drawings, it doesnt even exist anymore
give me something to draw and the level of correct i should aim at 6 months, if not then im talentless

[Anonymous No.5187411]

>>5187402

thats all for now

[Anonymous No.5187412]

>>5187352

i'm lefthanded too. i never get cramps, it doesn;t have anything to do with your dexterity

[Anonymous No.5187420]

>>5187399
rotate the first woman by 75 degrees on the y axis in your mind, draw it and find out if you have talent, agdg padawan

[Anonymous No.5187427]

>>5187420
that's stupid im not doing that, its so foreshortened it doesnt even make sense
something that makes sense please

[Anonymous No.5187428]

>>5187427
ok printer

[Anonymous No.5187433]

Any opinion on those sketches?

[Anonymous No.5187435]

>>5187428
just help me understand it
75 degrees y axis
im where? her raised arm

[Anonymous No.5187436]

>>5187352
I'm proud of you, anon

[Anonymous No.5187437]

>>5187435
yeah basically just from the side

[Anonymous No.5187444]

>>5187399
What is good: your sketches don't look like soulless art school shit that are so similar to what anyone else does. Also you don't draw ugly characters with no gender.
What's important is to work with what you have, meaning if you have a rough style, make something of it. And I don't think you should quit.

[Anonymous No.5187445]

>>5187274
I'm the Aragorn guy, I don't believe it has anything to do with talent. I just draw a lot, most of it is shit, this time I just drew the same thing multiple times. I think the drawing is alright, but you can clearly spot the differences to your ref. hair, mouth, length of face, form of the chin.
I drew the face 5 times until it somewhat resembled the original. draw this one 4 times more and then look at it.

[Anonymous No.5187450]

>>5187437
I think Im getting it by using boxes,>>5187444
But theyre souless art school, are you the guy from agdg? I want to be a pro but I dont think I have it in me

[Anonymous No.5187465]

>>5187450
>I think Im getting it by using boxes
you got it, it's a very difficult exercise, if you can do a halfway decent job at it, you've got what it takes to git good. It doesn't have to be perfect at first, you'll get much farther if you learn to think instead of copying from reference

[Anonymous No.5187469]

>>5187450
No, I'm just the anon answering you for a while in here today.
To be a (legit) pro, you need to be at least normally skilled and work hard. You won't be the best, but could still make a living of it. So if you want it, do it. Also this last sketch looks better imo. I really like the bottom one. Nice lines and movements. I'd like to give you useful advice about what your work is worth but I'm not worth much myself, tho I think you're doing fine.

[Anonymous No.5187507]

First ever sketch.
Anyone got any good resources for learning to sketch city scenes and architecture?

[Anonymous No.5187532]

>>5187030
Hell no

[Anonymous No.5187537]

>>5187030
practice is pencil on paper nothing else

[Anonymous No.5187543]

>>5187201
>Emma Roberts

[Anonymous No.5187549]

>>5187507
YGMI for sure if this is actually like the first time you picked up a pencil since kindergarten. Generally city/architecture stuff is pure Perspective, for which there are a lot of resources. I like this one:

https://marshallart.com/SHOP/all-products/all-videos/1994-perspective-drawing-series/

But it costs $12 for the whole thing so if you're in punishing poverty you might look elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.5187550]

>>5187332
>4 months 4 hours a day fundies every single day
that isn't 10000 hours yet anon, that is your problem!

[Anonymous No.5187553]

Might be a dumb question but is it a bad idea to just draw whatever comes to mind/try to replicate what I see in artbooks like I got this book about creating monster creature things and it shows the steps to take

or should I just try and follow fundies only really?

[Anonymous No.5187555]

>>5187365
I thought it was beg but cute!

[Anonymous No.5187557]

>>5187553
just draw

[Anonymous No.5187558]

Please tell me how I can improve my texture and implied detail. I like the face. Do you think it's too soft?

[Anonymous No.5187562]

>>5187543
scary. you gave her a horse face

[Anonymous No.5187570]

>>5187549
What's YGMI?
This is the first time I've drawn something for about 15 years.

[Anonymous No.5187575]

Anyone know how I can improve the lighting on this?

[Anonymous No.5187578]

>>5187553
have fun like draw an easy cartoon character you like or something, but yeah you wont come around the fundies grind

[Anonymous No.5187581]

>>5187562
yeah i've got to begin the habit of resetting my eyes and flipping my canvas

[Anonymous No.5187582]

>>5187555
thanks
drawing cute shotas is my biggest art goal

[Anonymous No.5187585]

>>5187553
>is it a bad idea to just draw whatever comes to mind/try to replicate what I see in artbooks
beg here, do you think that you will be able to draw more if you do this, while keeping pushing yourself to improve little by little? if so why not? I personally just follow the path of less resistance, but I am also constantly trying to improve my weakness.

[Anonymous No.5187587]

>>5187575
why brown?

[Anonymous No.5187596]

>>5187587
I’m not good enough to work with color yet and I like the look of that toned beige or oatmeal colored paper instead of black and white

[Anonymous No.5187623]

>>5187596
i think it looks better with less saturation

[Anonymous No.5187633]

>>5187553
Whatever keeps you motivated. What I have found works best for me is to draw something I want to (normal just until sketch phase) and then once I'm finished pick my least favorite part of it and then do a study on that. Haven't gotten into color/rendering yet because I would rather focus on overall form first

[Anonymous No.5187647]

I think it's time to call it quits
>>5187465
The legs, that's the "easy part" but the armpit and chest, nope
I cant do it

[Anonymous No.5187649]

I've been drawing a couple of times a week for a month and a half. Advice appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5187668]

>>5187649
how much time did you spend in each session ngmibro?

[Anonymous No.5187670]

>>5187274
The face is a bit too long, which gives the chin a masculine look. I repositioned the features a bit, and rounded out the jaw and chin. The hair was huge so I toned it down.

Your drew the neck very thick which also makes it look more masculine. All of your hatching is distracting and makes it more difficult to read the proportions and how the features interact with eachother.

[Anonymous No.5187673]

>>5187623
I tried to lower the saturation a bit on this one.

I feel like my sketches look okay and I’m able to put down what I want to put down, but when I try to paint it all turns to shit.

[Anonymous No.5187679]

>>5187649
The lower half of her body gets aggressively small and the arms are quite long, do your gabarrest on the following drawings anon

[Anonymous No.5187688]

>>5187061
2 has most soul

[Anonymous No.5187689]

>>5186954
is that omori

[Anonymous No.5187691]

>>5187668
Idk, I'd say from 1H30 to 3H each time.
>>5187679
Oh yes, I didn't notice, thanks anon! I'm still struggling with proportions.

[Anonymous No.5187693]

>>5187433
You got a style down, but gesture on the left dude is very stiff.

[Anonymous No.5187695]

>>5187649
Idk what it is today, but everyone is posting comically large heads.

I tried to fix some stuff up a bit. IDK if it works better.

[Anonymous No.5187699]

>>5187581
god bless

[Anonymous No.5187721]

how's my gesturing. about a minute each, im trying to focus more on flow but a part of me is def overthinking the contours still

[Anonymous No.5187727]

>>5187553
Do both, do everything.
>>5187633
This.

Have fun trying to see what works and what doesn't, then grind your weak points, go through some fundamentals, and then test what you've learned by doing whatever the fuck you want.

[Anonymous No.5187735]

>>5187695
Oh thanks, that's so much better! I see what went wrong in my version now. Bless you!

[Anonymous No.5187737]

>>5187670
>>5187274

[Anonymous No.5187738]

>>5186957
Majestic

[Anonymous No.5187742]

>>5187135
the face and the top torso is really good but the torso looks really weird and to small and the legs are out of wack too

[Anonymous No.5187744]

>>5187469
I don't think I have the talent, I wasn't able to rotate that girl
>>5187465
Fuck you btw
>>5187550
My comic ideas can go fuck themselves, I'm not going to waste time, I'm talentless

[Anonymous No.5187751]

>>5187744
>I'm not going to waste time, I'm talentless
you can only say that after 10000 hours anon.

[Anonymous No.5187766]

I'm sick of drawing anime

How do you gain the confidence to draw from reality? I can't do it. I can only draw anime and cartoons because it's so easy and the lines are already defined for me and I can just copy.
When I look at a portrait of a real person, i have absolute no clue where to start and just end up staring at a blank paper for 15 minutes before rage quitting

[Anonymous No.5187779]

>>5187766
Just start using real life as reference and draw however you want. There’s nothing more to it than just observing and trying. If you really need more guidance then start with a figure drawing course or portrait course

[Anonymous No.5187782]

>>5187779
>with a figure drawing course
I was thinking of trying that with this book. But looking at the reviews, everyone says it's for more advance people. Do you think it's good for someone like me or is it gonna be too hard

[Anonymous No.5187785]

>>5187507
Another from today.

[Anonymous No.5187786]

>>5187785

[Anonymous No.5187791]

>>5187766
what's the story behind this image, if any?

[Anonymous No.5187792]

>>5187782
i'm into Loomis' take on the bioshock style. :3

[Anonymous No.5187793]

>>5187782
Forget the loomis saga, follow a modern video course that explains things to beginners and shows you the process recorded, then practice it yourself

[Anonymous No.5187795]

>>5187793
>modern video course
Do you have any specific suggestions?

[Anonymous No.5187798]

>>5187795
try learning the methods of the old masters by studying Mike Matessi's FORCE™ method.

be sure to purchase his books and online courses.

[Anonymous No.5187801]

I shilled him before and I’ll shill him again. Brent evistons gesture drawing course is a good place to start, it goes over the basics of figure drawing and has reels of times references to follow. After you finish that look into vilppu

[Anonymous No.5187805]

Some figure drawing/studies I've been doing. I think I need to get off my butt and learn how to finish/render/add details to pieces. I feel like I'm starting to hit a limit with these quick sketches.

>>5187721
I'm seeing the gesture beginning to bloom. Keep it up. I'd suggest once you're comfortable to start adding some forms/anatomy on top when you do longer studies. I feel like I've learned more about simplifying contours once I began drawing more "realistic" forms. I'm still trying to learn more though.

>>5187450
I really like your birds. I should draw animals as well to break up the monotony of drawing humans exclusively.

[Anonymous No.5187808]

>>5187795
Meant to reply >>5187801
You should be able to find the material in the mega link posted on ic
Fuck this guy >>5187798

[Anonymous No.5187815]

>>5187805
hehe those bargue poses

[Anonymous No.5187821]

>>5187805
>I really like your birds. I should draw animals as well to break up the monotony of drawing humans exclusively.
Oh wow nice humblebrag, how about you fuck yourself huh?

[Anonymous No.5187822]

Heres a study

[Anonymous No.5187826]

>>5187805
Fuck you because of your humblebrag, I don't give a shit about your talent.
>>5187751
Fuck off, I'm talentless or a Xerox machine, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.5187834]

>>5187815
They're really fun to look at. I feel like they've helped me with my legs a lot in particular.
I think I'll be moving away from them though. I feel like I'm getting more out of my standard model drawing now that I've absorbed what I can from it.

>>5187821
>humblebrag
I'm not sure what you mean. I REALLY do like your birds. There's a lot of soulful expression to them. Seeing people draw animals and stuff aside from naked humans always makes me feel bad since that's all I do. I barely even draw clothing.

[Anonymous No.5187838]

>>5186954
Anons,how do I paint without feeling like a retard?
is there any good tips or tutorials to improve my shit?

[Anonymous No.5187839]

[Anonymous No.5187841]

Here's something I did right now, opinion before I ink and color it?

[Anonymous No.5187842]

Don't reply to the mentally-ill

[Anonymous No.5187843]

>>5187841
December 2020 for comparison

[Anonymous No.5187846]

[Anonymous No.5187848]

>>5187842
I'm so sick of running as fast as I can
Wondering if I’d get there quicker if I was a man
And I'm so sick of them coming at me again
'Cause if I was a man, then I'd be the man
I’d be the man
I'd be the man

[Anonymous No.5187853]

>>5187842
I’d be a fearless leader
I'd be an alpha type
When everyone believes ya
What's that like?
I’m so sick of running as fast as I can
Wondering if I'd get there quicker if I was a man
And I'm so sick of them coming at me again
'Cause if I was a man, then I'd be the man
I'd be the man
I'd be the man

[Anonymous No.5187857]

>>5186966
Practice tracing the alphabet like little kids do to learn it

[Anonymous No.5187858]

>>5187841
The right hand (the one not holding the gun) looks wonky.

[Anonymous No.5187861]

[Anonymous No.5187862]

Been drawing digital for a month now, opinions?

[Anonymous No.5187863]

>>5187858
this

>>5187843
i really like your choices here
the way you've rendered this feels like sunset
PLEASE color this with an orange starburst palette
deep pinks, maybe some light blues, almost like she's standing in front of a bright explosion
god please finish this

>>5187861
very nice
i'm definitely feeling the form here, anonbro
you picked some EXCELLENT lines for contours
the bottom one is dog shit, though

[Anonymous No.5187865]

>>5187863
>>5187861
reverse search?

[Anonymous No.5187868]

>>5187862
Do not symbol draw clavicles

[Anonymous No.5187869]

>>5187862
looks great
you need to think more about volume and weight
contours for the pelvis are not following the form
shoulders are off

[Anonymous No.5187870]

>>5187865
i don't know what you're asking

[Anonymous No.5187871]

>>5187843
>>5187841
>Lucca
Based and chronopilled

[Anonymous No.5187875]

[Anonymous No.5187887]

>>5187274
Work on proportions, it is the most important aspect of getting portrait right since we are so good at noticing the smallest differences between faces.

[Anonymous No.5187890]

>>5187744
>>5187887
DOKTOR do you p[reFer the New VEerSion?

[Anonymous No.5187892]

>>5187822
the power of coom is stronger than talent

[Anonymous No.5187896]

>>5187861
You are feeling the form.

[Anonymous No.5187899]

What makes me unable to progress?
I should be at this level at 6 months>>5187861
>>5187834
>>5187805

[Anonymous No.5187911]

>>5187868
Forgot to remove those

>>5187869
Thanks anon, still struggling with anatomy.
I like to use a dirty stroke, does it look good?

[Anonymous No.5187914]

>>5187911
How long?

[Anonymous No.5187926]

>>5187914
what?

[Anonymous No.5187927]

>>5187926
how long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.5187931]

>>5187927
One month

[Anonymous No.5187932]

>>5187931
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH1 MONTH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.5187935]

>>5187931
iMAgination or reference?

[Anonymous No.5187937]

>>5187927
A month approximately, and everything started with this mess

[Anonymous No.5187938]

>>5187791
Weeb's first drawing

[Anonymous No.5187939]

>>5187937
>>5187935

[Anonymous No.5187941]

>>5187899
>>5187848
>>5187853
>>5187932
>my personality is pretending to be crazy on 4channel

[Anonymous No.5187942]

>>5187766
>I can only draw anime and cartoons because it's so easy and the lines are already defined for me and I can just copy.
So then why do I always hear that you should start out drawing real life before drawing cartoons? I feel like cartoons should be easier, but it seems like every time I ask how to draw them people say to start with realism.

[Anonymous No.5187944]

>>5187941
Ill eat you
TELL ME WHY I CANT FUCKING IMPROVE?

[Anonymous No.5187945]

>>5187939
I used references to learn about a little about hair and facial proportions, in those 2 I just start drawing with just an idea but no references

[Anonymous No.5187948]

>>5187945
Resources used?

[Anonymous No.5187949]

>>5187944
Cus you avatarfag as Taylor swift every thread plus you're gay

[Anonymous No.5187952]

>>5187949
MY human carcass, their gender and identity is irrelevant to art
real reasons now

[Anonymous No.5187953]

>>5187899
Setting clear, achievable short-term goals helped me a lot. It's obvious when I spell it out like this, but putting it into practice is what counts. A recent example from me would be studying the forms of the pecs and seeing how they interact with the arm and ribcage. Then once I messed up I doubled back on studying how other artists simplified the forms, chose the interesting shapes they did, and tried to emulate it.
I feel like this "divide and conquer" approach to studying art is a natural way to learn how to draw.

6 months isn't a lot of time though. I wouldn't worry too much about it in general either, and I'd suggest not to compare how fast you're progressing with how other people are progressing too. There's nothing really to gain from it.

[Anonymous No.5187954]

>>5187911
the volumes are wrong which means the line art is wrong

[Anonymous No.5187955]

>>5187952
You have /beg/ genes unlike everyone else itt, everyone here will MI except you!

[Anonymous No.5187956]

>>5187948
Nomura simplest desings really inspire me, but then I found some work of Yoshikazu Hamada and then it was I said "yep, this is how i want to draw"
for comparison
>His work

>My work
>>5187862

[Anonymous No.5187959]

>>5187954
sorry for the newie question, but what do you guys mean with volume? Do you mean the shadows that create the illusion of realism?

[Anonymous No.5187961]

>>5187956
Talent is wasted on you

[Anonymous No.5187963]

[Anonymous No.5187964]

>>5187955
Not a real answer
>>5187953
Its a lot when someone else is doing better in less time
How can I make it? all the resources Ive been given dont work we just cant improve

[Anonymous No.5187970]

The TRUTH Is that im the worst artist on /beg/
>>5187955
cold statistics would say that no, not even 1 will make it and thats fine by me LOL

[Anonymous No.5187977]

>>5187558
I don't have a specific suggestion on your piece here but an artist who might help you understand this is Even Amundsen.

Looks good!

[Anonymous No.5187981]

>>5187964
>>5187970
Keep denying it because you have bad genes! Sad!!

[Anonymous No.5187983]

>>5187826
>fuck you
when you make it, I will want an apology!

[Anonymous No.5187987]

>>5187981
LETS SAY THAT YEAH because I dont give a fuck then
still
cold hard and cruel lovely statistics say that not a single person here will make it LOLAHSAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>5187983
Fine, how to improve? the me you speak was born years ago but not when my body was born so Im not used to independent thought
Give me resources and a regimen a daily goal

[Anonymous No.5187992]

>>5187987
Soon you will be 7 minths, 8 months, so on, so forth! No progress made and only sadness! The bad genes have put your happiness to rest!

[Anonymous No.5187998]

>>5187987
Anon turn off your computer right now

[Anonymous No.5188001]

>>5187961
do you mean that i should look for better reference?

[Anonymous No.5188006]

>>5188001
I mean that I dont like you
>>5187998
No, TELL ME HOW TO IMPROVE FOR A TIME THERE WAS HOPE WITH CERTAIN RESOURCESSSSS
BUT THEY FAILED ME
DORIAN FAILED ME
PROKO AND EVISTON FAILED ME
NOTHING WORKS AND I FEEL LIKE ETATING
TELL ME HOW TO IMPROVE NOW

[Anonymous No.5188008]

>>5188001
No anon ignore him, you're doing amazing. He's the spammer crab with bad genes! Keep up the practice and you'll make great things

[Anonymous No.5188019]

>>5188006
>I mean that I dont like you
sorry anon :(
>TELL ME HOW TO IMPROVE NOW
there's no secret, analyze other artist draws and practice

[Anonymous No.5188023]

>>5187862
Looks real good, dude

[Anonymous No.5188024]

>>5188019
NOO FUCK FUCK USE ROSETTA STONE YOUR ENGLISH IS FUCKING GROSS
STOP BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR TALENT

[Anonymous No.5188032]

>>5188027
Go learn how to draw instead of being cringe on 4chan, dude

[Anonymous No.5188039]

Stupid question, is it acceptable to take breaks from drawing? I've been drawing literally all day every day for a month straight and I'm starting to feel burnt out, can I take Saturday and Sunday off to play some vidya or do something else?

[Anonymous No.5188047]

>>5188039
Sure, just keep in mind being consistent is important

[Anonymous No.5188048]

>>5188039
Yeah, it's good to take breaks sometimes, especially if you're feeling burnt out. Sometimes when I come back from a break I even do better than I was before it, not just in drawing but in most everything, as long as it's not a super long one.

[Anonymous No.5188057]

Tried drawing myself from 2014.
Yes my hair looked that gay and yes my nose is crooked. Anything I did blatantly wrong?

[Anonymous No.5188082]

>>5187987
>how to improve
>draw what you want to draw
>it will suck. chose one flaw to work on
>work on it by doing exercise, learning, whatever
>draw what you want to draw
>repeat

>inb4 BUT I NEVER IMPROVE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
it will take time, a lot of time.
>inb4 BUT ANON IMPROVED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!
yeah but, what you can do about it?

[Anonymous No.5188088]

>>5187839
nice

[Anonymous No.5188097]

>>5187977
Yeah, very similar to the type of work I wanna do. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.5188098]

>>5187875
wat

[Anonymous No.5188100]

>>5188098
>when one butt just isn't enough

[Anonymous No.5188111]

sometimes i wonder if anyone here has actually any idea what the fuck they're talking about

[Anonymous No.5188113]

>>5188082
tHE ISSUE is a guarantee, if I had a guarantee that no matter how much I suck right now and right now i have negative skill then that i would draw like i want to draw then sure but is there a guarantee? NOOOOOO THEREssss no guarantee
this is a huge problem have you ssssen those pics with people drawing for an eternity yet they dont improve, thats the fear and its happening at this very insssstant

[Anonymous No.5188118]

>>5188113
change your style

[Anonymous No.5188119]

Many resources have been tried and this human carcass is still not even decent
others are improving faster
we cant take it
i cant take it
>>5188118
wHAT DO you mean?

[Anonymous No.5188131]

>>5188119
what do you think i mean

[Anonymous No.5188135]

beginner art isn't a style

[Anonymous No.5188141]

>>5188131
There is no style, style comes LATer with Experience
fuck off
how can I improve fucker?

[Anonymous No.5188143]

>>5188113
>i would draw like i want to draw
how do you want to draw?

>those pics with people drawing for an eternity yet they dont improve,
this is because they can't see their real skill, you don't seem to have this problem.

[Anonymous No.5188153]

>>5188057
Is your nose really one eye width long from the brow to the tip? I would say you should measure it out and make sure everything is accurate.

Aside from that, your values are confused. You need to set them down solidly, start with the biggest darkest shadow shapes. Then break it up into a total of 3 or 4 values. From there you can blend.

[Anonymous No.5188165]

>>5188141
i'm not sure this artist understands coolvswarm

[Anonymous No.5188166]

>>5188141
Style is, like, at least 90% of drawing unless you're doing hyper-realism. Even a realistic drawing stills involves lots of simplification and shape design.

[Anonymous No.5188171]

>>5188141
I'm sorry but you're not able to improve!

[Anonymous No.5188172]

>>5188153
My nose seems to be a bit fuller at the bottom.
I think it looks so short because the camera looks up a bit.
I think the mouth should be bigger
I also forgot to finish the eyebrows and some of the forehead proportions and the shading there are wrong.
After drawing my uglly teen self I'll draw my current self with your value advice. thx anon

[Anonymous No.5188195]

lay it on me friends. been a while since i last drew.

[Anonymous No.5188273]

Was inspired to sketch a bird for the first time. Can't wrap my head around getting the pattern looking good without spending meticulous time on it.

[Anonymous No.5188276]

>>5188273
Fuck off, leave our species alone, human.

[Anonymous No.5188300]

[Anonymous No.5188303]

What advantages and disadvantages of starting figure drawing from head and from body (when not using stickman or paperman)? I prefer to start from crotch but often can't connect head to body properly.

[Anonymous No.5188352]

>>5188303
remember that we always stare into people's eyes. make the head memorable and you can get away with the most egregious shit

[Anonymous No.5188375]

>>5186954
This was my attempt at painting,I know it's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.5188393]

>>5188375
its cute. reminds me of hollow knight. you're playing it too safe though. don't be afraid of failure. it's your best teacher

[Anonymous No.5188408]

[BLOBBERS No.5188424]

>>5188408
this gives me anxiety. i'm into it.

[Anonymous No.5188429]

At this point everyone should just report the schizo anon posts as low quality and move on. If more people other than me do this maybe the mods will notice.

[Anonymous No.5188432]

>>5188429
>nooo think about my hugbox and circlejerk
Based schizo

[Anonymous No.5188438]

>>5188393
Thank you,I just think I'm better at line-art than actually colouring.
Can you tell me what you think of this sketch?

[Anonymous No.5188448]

>>5188424
Thank you! Would you care to explain though?

[Anonymous No.5188464]

How to paint over the lineart?

[Anonymous No.5188465]

>>5188438
it's a cute hand. beauty in simplicity. your lines are scratchy, but i do like how you use them in this piece, deliberately or not. don't think it would look the same without them. do try to learn proper line control though.

[Anonymous No.5188468]

>>5188464
is this a legitimate question, anon? just do it. or be more specific as to whats your issue

[Anonymous No.5188470]

>>5188468
I keep painting over the lineart

[Anonymous No.5188471]

>>5188470
use a different layer...?

[Anonymous No.5188512]

>>5187782
Loomis did the cover art for Atlas Shrugged?

[Anonymous No.5188521]

work in progress, advice welcome

[BLOBBERS No.5188533]

>>5188057
not bad.

i think the biggest problem is the nose's bottom plane isn't indicated very well? like it looks almost on the same plane as the front of the nose.

[Anonymous No.5188535]

>>5188424
>>5188533
Yo namefag post some of your art! Welcome to the thread!

[BLOBBERS No.5188536]

>>5188172
no wait, the problem might be the bottom of nose : front of face isn't differentiated enough. hm.

[Anonymous No.5188537]

>>5188521
ref

[Anonymous No.5188597]

[Anonymous No.5188602]

Haven’t posted in a while, trying to get my figure game up. This one’s from imagination, can I get someone to shit on it for me?

[Anonymous No.5188607]

>>5186957
Add a dick to this and you'll make at least 20$.

[Anonymous No.5188612]

>>5187274
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.5188614]

>>5188597
Went back and fixed the arm. Can tell the foreshortening was poor.

[Anonymous No.5188668]

[Anonymous No.5188683]

I thought I WAS ABOUT TO DO IT
TEST MYSELF AND EMERGE VICTORIOUS BY ROTATING THAT WOMAN BUT I WASNT ABLE
IM QUITTING DRAWING BUT ILL REPLACE IT BY MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW TALENT IS REAL
>>5188612
Are you bragging about your talent? aaaaaaalaughing about my drawing huh? how about you fuck yourself buddy

[Anonymous No.5188694]

requesting red-line before coloring.

[Anonymous No.5188696]

[Anonymous No.5188700]

When doe's the next /Beg/ thread begin?

[Anonymous No.5188723]

>>5188696
I think you got the anatomy of stacked bitches down, dude. What else you got?

[BLOBBERS No.5188731]

>>5188696
oooooooooh
BOOBA

[Anonymous No.5188742]

>>5187689
Yes

[Anonymous No.5188780]

>>5188696
Assman strikes again

[Anonymous No.5188783]

>>5188723
CAREFUL BRO HE'LL SNAP

[Anonymous No.5188786]

>>5188696
OOOOOOOOOOOOH
booba

[Anonymous No.5188787]

>>5187030
yeah for one day out of the week then the rest of the week i spend practicing the concepts...

[Anonymous No.5188798]

>>5188470
watch ctrl paint's videos and copy his setups that's what i did, if you're new to digital it's a pain in the ass but becomes second nature after a while
you have to select the line art and make a mask on a new layer

[Anonymous No.5188801]

>>5187786
nice to see what a fleshed out scene can do for a change, even if the scale is a bit small. very cool doodle

[Anonymous No.5188802]

>>5188696
those feet are symbol drawn and look awful man, probably want more muscle definition on the thighs too considering she has decent abs and arms

[Anonymous No.5188829]

>>5188683
Genuinely curious. No capslock, no acting moody or ranting, tell it to me straight. Describe in detail what one of your 4 hour training sessions are like. Do you just draw, watch tutorials, redraw the same image over and over, some combination of all of these, what exactly do you do?

[Anonymous No.5188835]

[Anonymous No.5188838]

[Anonymous No.5188964]

>>5188057
I understand that you don't want to post your face on here, but a reference for us to compare would help tremendously.

[Anonymous No.5188968]

>>5188964
>>5188172
>>5188057

Never mind, I am an idiot.

[Anonymous No.5188970]

>>5188964
he already posted it >>5188172

[Anonymous No.5188971]

Finally sat down and finished this off this evening.

I'm having issues where once I leave the sketch phase and add clothing the anatomy quickly falls apart and I lose track.

Also working on trying to get the inking to look nice.

Faces and expressions are still fuckin me.

Looking forward to trying to colour this and some other stuff tomorrow.

Does it come off as fun and playful?

[Anonymous No.5188972]

>>5188172
This reference isn't that great. Try and get one with better lightening. You could try one without glasses and then add them afterwards. Could be easier to nail down the features without the glasses blocking the view.

It's looking pretty good. The rendering needs some work.

[Anonymous No.5189007]

>>5188172
looking good man. value study by turning the image grayscale, the highlight on the right eyelid is too light for instance. other than that, it's really good.

[Anonymous No.5189012]

noses

[Anonymous No.5189017]

>>5188668
I'd like to see progress on this posted here again.

[Anonymous No.5189018]

>>5188521
The guy in the middle should be bigger.

[Anonymous No.5189024]

>>5188696
Are you an aspiring coomer artist or something?

[Anonymous No.5189028]

First drawing ever, i will give it another try

[Anonymous No.5189033]

>>5189028
yo, welcome.

[Anonymous No.5189035]

>>5188172
Here I spent 20min on it. Are you using a soft brush to render? Feels like a lot of the values are just randomly added.

I used a hard brush here. And tried to block in shadows and highlights more. I moved the mouth and jaw up.

But like i wrote earlier,
>>5188972
you really should be working from a better reference. Your picture is taken from a downward angle, it's blurry, and try get harsher lightening with higher contrasting shadows and highlights.

[Anonymous No.5189054]

>>5189035

[Anonymous No.5189067]

>decide a drawing is finished
>Instantly see it's shit

[Anonymous No.5189070]

>>5189067
one of the things that helps to me see problems in a drawing is to look at its thumbnail, or just zoom far out

[Anonymous No.5189072]

>>5189070
I think i'ts the background, I'm gonna cut it so that she takes up more space and change the color, that dull purple is bugging me so much

[Anonymous No.5189075]

>>5189072
theres a lot of problems with the drawing, mouth and eyes appear to be symbol drawn. i would paint a lot more faces before i worried about backgrounds and framing/composition

[Anonymous No.5189080]

>>5189075
hmmm I'm not sure I see how the eyes and mouth are symbol drawn, maybe the eyeliner is too exaggerated? idk how to make eyeliner desu

[Anonymous No.5189095]

>>5189075
>>5189080
I tried giving more focus to the make up and smoothing the form on the mouth, but I think I'll call it done with this one and start a new face like you said

[Anonymous No.5189163]

>>5189035
Thanks dude. Pretty insightful. I was only using soft round. I know the reference sucks. I just chose it as a joke because it's the ugliest old photo I have. Again, thanks for your time I'll try to apply what you told me in my next drawing.

[Anonymous No.5189259]

>>5188696
the feet are awful

[Anonymous No.5189270]

new thread
>>5189268
>>5189268
>>5189268

[Anonymous No.5189410]

>>5188829
Ill tell you about IT on THen NExt ThREAD

[Anonymous No.5189641]

>>5189410
link to my post when you do

[Anonymous No.5190278]

>>5188521
Progress. It's hard to show the form with only lines.
Also, hands are difficult.