Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.5186021]

One day, one bloody day, I will have my revenge on all d/ic/kweeds and those who I once considered my art "friend". I will rise in skill while they will fall further. They will see me and regret they ever betrayed my trust. I will become pro.

[Anonymous No.5186051]

whos the artist?

[Anonymous No.5186053]

>>5186021
nah you wont

[Anonymous No.5186055]

Vent thread pictures should be wholesome.

[Anonymous No.5186065]

>another day without art friends

[Anonymous No.5186077]

>>5186021
Lol k. Someone make a non cringe vent thread pls?

[Anonymous No.5186078]

>>5186077
you do it :)

[Anonymous No.5186082]

>>5186065
I'm here anon. We should do art together.

[Anonymous No.5186100]

>>5186082
>>5186065
Me too. Is there any chance either of you are female?

[Anonymous No.5186107]

>>5186100

You don't even want an "art friend" you want a gf lol fuck off

[Anonymous No.5186117]

>>5186053

Yes I will

[Anonymous No.5186119]

>>5186021
cool, I wish you the best, have fun

[Anonymous No.5186122]

>>5186119
I don’t need your wishes.

[Anonymous No.5186130]

>>5186107
this could be the three of us

[Anonymous No.5186169]

>>5186021
The loneliness is killing me

[Anonymous No.5186185]

>>5186021
Interesting anon, you sound quite similar to myself in your words. We’ll never be ‘friends’, since I don’t believe in such a thing either, but I you can make it, I’ll see you at the top before I knock you back down.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” You’re against everyone here, so I’ll support you for it. I’m confident I’ll make it, but you should try hard so you do too and I can leave you in the dust like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.5186209]

>>5186169
And I
I must confess I still believe

[Anonymous No.5186246]

Are woman that much carefree when it comes to money, HOLY FUCK DO THEY SPEND A TON WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU RETARDED WOMAN STOP WASTING MY HARD EARNED MONEY FUUUUUUUUCJKKKKKKKO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.5186262]

>>5186021
Everytime I feel down I go to this mutual of mine on socmed and read her petty self deprecating posts about how she hasn't improved in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.5186281]

>>5186021
>like animation, like a huge animation nerd
>never had the courage to become animator myself
>dropped out of Uni due to mental health
>now I'm crippled with depression, no job, and bleeding money from my compulsion of buying animation artbooks
>want to become animator but every time I look up there are tons of younger animators who have previous background in animation school or just straight genius
>want to kill myself every day

[Anonymous No.5186290]

>>5186065
>another day without friends

[Anonymous No.5186369]

An ex internet-friend is passing off my artwork as their own. They're essentially blackmailing me so they can keep up this act.
I didn't know what else to do so I just ghosted that entire friend group. I'm not sure how pissed he's going to be that I ran off, or what has going to do.
There are some psycho stalkers and pathological liars online and I wish I knew that before I stupidly walked into this mess.

[Anonymous No.5186371]

>>5186262
this image sounds like abstract/experimental hip hop

[Anonymous No.5186373]

>7 billion people
>only 2 million dead
COVID is slacking off

[Anonymous No.5186381]

>>5186290
felt that

[Anonymous No.5186384]

>>5186373
Florida is based though not wearing masks
name literally ONE person you know who died of Covid
>protip
you cant

[Anonymous No.5186397]

everyone talks about having no friends but how do you actually make some
discords dont work because only like 10 regulars ever talk and even then theyre more like acquaintances, not friends
pretty sure making a bro on the internet is borderline impossible, you gotta do it in real life. problem is i never go outside

[Anonymous No.5186420]

>>5186384
some of my coworkers died of covid

[Anonymous No.5186451]

>>5186369
How do you even end up in this situation?
>>5186397
Just don't. :D

[Anonymous No.5186484]

>>5186281
time to draw then

[Anonymous No.5186572]

>>5186246
Nip it in the bud as soon as possible. This means you'll need to sit your partner down and be as open and honest as possible. Set a budget, credit limit or some shit

[Anonymous No.5186577]

>>5186209
>still believe

[Anonymous No.5186580]

>>5186262
5 months reeeee

[Anonymous No.5186585]

>>5186577
When I'm not with you, I lose my mind.

[Anonymous No.5186607]

>>5186281
You ever seen a Don Hertzfeldt film? It's all stick figures and weirdness. Animation is cool because the real aesthetics behind it isn't the illusion that the thing is real, but that the thing is alive. And that you can get with an appealing drawing of a deer on a cave wall, and a flickering fire-light. So go makes some lines dance Anon. If cave men can do it you can too!

[Anonymous No.5186618]

>>5186021
buying a fancy tablet didn't make me immediately good at art nor did it increase my desire to study and draw

[Anonymous No.5186624]

>>5186618
>That time I spent hours solving tablet pressure issues when I coulda been drawing.

[Anonymous No.5186628]

>>5186384
My uncle died and one of my coworkers parents died. My best friend's dad got it and it got really bad for a while.

[Anonymous No.5186653]

>>5186369
>They're essentially blackmailing me so they can keep up this act.
How?

[Anonymous No.5186719]

>>5186021
OH WOW AN ANIME GIRL WITH PINK HAIR THIS IS SO NEW AND REFRESHING I AM SO EXCITED *CLAP CLAP CLAP* HOW ARE ASIANS SO GOOD AT ART OMG I HATE MYSELF

[Anonymous No.5186746]

>>5186021
T-this mentality... You are already pro

[Anonymous No.5186893]

>>5186384
No fuck De Santez. I will never forget his slow COVID response and even when he finally caved in for the 2 week shutdown or however long it was my employer suddenly pulled a “haha you’re essential worker now”. And then a few weeks later I got COVID I’m pretty sure because I had major issues breathing. Never happened to me before, had to stick my face inside a freezer to inhale deeper and had a bad cold. I could have fucking sued those assholes when I had the chance for not sending us home but I was too afraid to go get tested from all the conspiracies.

[Anonymous No.5186901]

>>5186893

And I no longer have my sense of smell. I’m not sure when exactly it happened but probably around December.

[Anonymous No.5187414]

>>5186021
I decided I’d fill two sketchbooks, one for only practice and one for actual art.
I practice daily but have zero ideas to make actual art. Zero. My practice book is growing by the day but my art book is still empty

[Anonymous No.5187439]

I want to tell you a story today about myself.

When I was a kid I was ahead of the curve in school academically. I was always bored. I was annoyed by other kids not understanding. I would go home and do my sister's homework who was 2 years ahead of me. There was no challenge at all. If I really tried at something I would get 100% every time.

I relate to Frieza from DBZ who relied on his innate power and never trained.

I remember though one a few occasions when I forgot to do the work or put it off until it was too late. And anyone with common sense would say just fill out whatever you can quick so you at least get partial credit, thinking in terms of overall average. But that's not how I thought. For me it was all ego. The idea that my record would have a B or a C in it was unthinkable, so I would just take the zero. I think on some level I thought the teacher would see that it was always 100 when I did the work and the only deviations were doing nothing at all, and somehow give me the perfect grade anyway?

I don't know exactly what I was thinking but that was my attitude.

And my looks were very similar. People always said I was extremely handsome. Not just my family but strangers would even approach us in public just to give me a compliment.

And I sort of became this unbelievably egotistical little monster. I just thought I could get by forever on genetics, innate ability and I held my potential as the highest form of evaluation.

And f course what happened is, I turned into a fat little blob of shit. A hairy blob with skinny wrists and forearms. Puberty is a motherfucker. I went from McCauley Kulkin to Steve Buscemi real fast. In school, I always did okay but I got so comfortable being so lazy that I did become a B/C student and at that point I had pathetic reading comprehension and didn't even really know how to study if I wanted to. I felt like I was constantly walking around disillusioned in a fog.

cont.

[Anonymous No.5187453]

>>5187439
When I was a kid I was also fantastic (for my age) at drawing. I was just the guy who could draw. I made other kids feel bad because they would just feel lost. They felt like there was no point in even trying to compete.

When I got older I realized used to draw a lot and I haven't really done it much, and I caught myself thinking I could if I wanted to.

I remember once in 2010 or so I commented on this picture of a car design on facebook and I just said it was ugly or something and someone told me that if i think i can do better i should design my own car.

So I sat down and drew maybe the most pathetic and embarrassing drawing ever. I wish I still had it. Showed a total lack of understanding of proportion, perspective, anything appealing whatsoever.

Was a real wakeup call. A reality check. So I started watching videos on youtube on how to draw cars. I would draw them on post it notes at my cubical back when I worked at this bank.

And at the end of the day, I just learned that I really really fucked myself over with that egotistical shit.

It's so cringe looking back. I set myself back decades.

And here's the real moral of the story. I think the reason I wasn't drawing for a long time is because I was afraid of failure. I was afraid that if I actually tried it would be shitty. It would be like getting a C on an assignment. And I'd rather get the 0, so that I could tell people that if I had actually tried it would be great.

It's so immature and such a terrible toxic, unproductive mindset.

So ... you must get rid of that ego. You must make mistakes. Accept you suck, and work through being shitty. Your potential isn't worth anything. It's a check you can't cash.

You are only worth what you can do right now.

[Anonymous No.5187460]

>>5187439
>>5187453
Faggy blogpost, you sound like you’re still narcissistic if you really think your experience is that important, but I’m not in need of lectures anyway, you sound like the opposite of me

[Anonymous No.5187462]

>>5187460
damn man that's super edgy. those finger quotes really dig in deep.

[Anonymous No.5187471]

>>5187439
>>5187453
holy shit no one cares lmao

[Anonymous No.5187473]

>>5187439
>relate to Frieza from DBZ who relied on his innate power and never trained.
how do you retards not get two sentences in and think “who cares”. No one gives a shit you massive faggot

[Anonymous No.5187480]

>>5187460
It’s the vent thread you faggots.

[Anonymous No.5187488]

>>5187480
I’m venting my frustration retard shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.5187493]

>>5187488
No you shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.5187496]

>>5187493
Fuck off faggot I’m venting here

God I’m glad I got that off my chest

[Anonymous No.5187517]

>>5187439
>>5187453
i really don’t get all the hate you got for this here - maybe it was just a knee-jerk reaction to the wall of text, because what you wrote is very level-headed and informative. I was the exact same kid growing up, and learned the exact same lessons - and I can say you’re absolutely 100% on point. Reject your ego anons, ego is a slow, silent killer.

[Anonymous No.5187560]

>>5187439
>>5187453
>>5187517

It's just a huge wall of text to say that "I was immature and spoiled and I had to get over it". I was in a similar situation too, it's pretty common to be an over-achiever when you're young and then get hit with reality as you get older. It's kiddy shit though, people don't have a lot of sympathy for this sort of stuff when they're dealing with real bullshit. You're pretty much just telling people that you were a shitty kid and you had to grow up. Like, you did a huge two part post and compared yourself to a DBZ character dude. I think the thread is more geared towards venting about more tangible sorts of problems. Like "I'm trapped in an awful job/relationship and I have no time to practice", or "I went to a shit art school and wasted my time", "I've been practicing for 6 years to get out of this hellhole but I'm still shit and I hate my life". You know? It's just a bit silly.

[Anonymous No.5187579]

>>5187560
this. Straight up I ripped it because it was a huge wall of text and he compared himself to a dbz character kek. It was just funny because the sort of autist associated with dbz obsession is exactly the sort who writes giant text walls like that.

[Anonymous No.5187594]

>>5187560
You do have a point - and while not all problems are self-inflicted, there’s still no shortage of people who suffer needlessly due to fundamental problems with their mindset. I mean remember the shonen rival anon from last thread? Just because someone is an adult doesn’t mean they instantly shift to a grown-up mentality; circumstances from your childhood absolutely can have lasting effects that drag on and on if untreated. So overall it’s worth it for everyone to take a moment of introspection every now and then, to see if any underlying problems can be improved, and if anon’s wall of text prompts a single soul to do it then it’s worth having it there desu.

[Anonymous No.5187672]

>>5187594
>I mean remember the shonen rival anon from last thread?
I have a feeling you're talking about me. I wouldn't have awaken to these feelings if it weren't for my "friend". All people who call themselves artists and associate/associated with /ic/ must pay the cost. No more will I "look up" to artists and wish I were them, fuck that. I will be them and I will trash their art. Every general and sub community on this board will pay. That is the only way I can be at ease of the betrayal I have felt.

[Anonymous No.5187674]

>>5187414
Just find something in your practice book that looks interesting, and draw that again, but with a bit more effort.

[Anonymous No.5187682]

>>5187672
Have you actually drawn a single thing since you embarked on this quest?

[Anonymous No.5187687]

I wish I could see how artists come up with the composition for their drawings but nobody ever reveals how much they "reference" from other things. All I can draw are people standing for passport photos.

[Anonymous No.5187697]

>>5187682
My quest is to start from the very beginning at 0. To discard everything I know about drawing and all methods to erase any style I have picked up over time and all hesitations and cheap tricks. The main reason for this is to document and show 1 particular bastard who I still hate till this day what it means to get good. Oh yes, I have started. And in just a few short weeks I will see tremendous improvement. I can feel it.

What I should start doing is doing all nighters once every 2 days starting today.

[Anonymous No.5187700]

>>5187687
Keys to Drawing has a great chapter on composition, and so does Ctrl+Paint. Once you know some of the basic tools like using lines to lead the viewer’s eye it all becomes much more comprehensible.

[Anonymous No.5187703]

>>5187697
>all nighters
Sleep deprivation isn't good for your ability to learn.

[Anonymous No.5187706]

>>5187697
Holy fuck all nighters??? I wasn’t planning on talking to you anymore but please don’t anon, you are out of your mind! Wake up this is not anime, your mind and body will give out and it will not make you stronger like a sayian, you will go down and down and down. Please consider meditation and introspection on who you really are and why you are really doing what you are doing.

[Anonymous No.5187716]

>>5187706
You're not going to talk me out of it I already made up my mind. The courses on the mega drive require 8 to 25 hours to complete per week. I only have probably 4 to 5 months left of NEET bucks left before I have to get a job. I must squeeze every ounce of time to at least get somewhere before then.

[Anonymous No.5187723]

>>5187716
Putting yourself on a 5 month time limit is a recipe for failure. You’d be better off watching like 20 hours of courses and drawing for the rest

[Anonymous No.5187741]

>>5186021
>Be experimenting with other mediums
>Try drawing with sharpie markers
>Manage to find paper thick enough so that the ink won't bleed through
>Even works well with with my white ink gel pens without mixing into a gray sludge
>It's perfect
>Suddenly remember what my old art teacher said about sharpie markers
>That they'll fade over time
>Decide to look up if sharpie ink is archival
>It's not
>See old sharpie drawings and how faded they look

[Anonymous No.5187755]

>>5187741
You'll probably hate those drawings by the time they've faded anyway.
Markers are shit in general.

[Anonymous No.5187789]

>>5187723
I'm not saying I'm going to get good good in 5 months, just cutting down as much as I can in what would have taken me a year and a half to go through if I was a full time wagie.

[Anonymous No.5187820]

>>5186021
I completely suck but its all I got left

[Anonymous No.5187823]

>>5187741
Embrace the ephemerality of your art, and find meaning in creating it rather than archiving it.
Or just scan the drawings.

[Anonymous No.5187889]

>>5187697
Man, what DID this "friend" of yours do that set you off so badly? You never talk about it - maybe you should, to get it out of your system? Because I'm beginning to think that you're somehow playing into his hands - like this is what he wanted, to trigger you and then laugh as you destroy yourself in a fit of rage. Wouldn't the correct "chad move" be to cut off from him entirely and ignore him so hard he will start to doubt his own existence? Make HIM die wondering if you ever got good while you enjoy yourself drawing things and improving 100% stress-free?

Also what the other anon said, all-nighters are straight up bad for you - if you don't have a stable sleep cycle your learning will literally grind to a halt.

[Anonymous No.5187894]

>>5186021
Who hurt you

[Anonymous No.5187923]

>>5187889
>Because I'm beginning to think that you're somehow playing into his hands

He has no hands anymore, he cut them off. Said he is done with drawing forever. I doubt the fucking pussy bitch is honest with himself and 4 - 5 days later he changed his mind like always. I bet he's in this thread right this very moment reading every post, laughing at me. He nuked almost every account he has because he's paranoid I'm stalking him (I'm not). But that's not the point. He kept lying to me and toying with me for about a year and it messed up my mental health. It's a long, long, long, long list I can write 2000 words about but I'm done thinking about him to this degree. He and everyone else in that place will pay.
>Make HIM die wondering if you ever got good while you enjoy yourself drawing things and improving 100% stress-free?

I'm not going to follow his lead and nuke my accounts to be out of the picture. Why do all of that for 1 dude and for what? No. I will teach him a real Chad lesson.
> if you don't have a stable sleep cycle your learning will literally grind to a halt.

I'll just do that once per week then.

[Anonymous No.5187958]

>>5187923
>I bet he's in this thread right this very moment reading every post, laughing at me.
See what I'm talking about? If that's the case then why don't you let it go? Just say "eh, whatever" and from that point stop thinking or posting about that guy altogether. If he is half as paranoid as you say he is this will be far, FAR worse for him than trash-talking him constantly.

>He kept lying to me and toying with me for about a year and it messed up my mental health.
You sound like it lol - seriously I'm worried about you anon, you sound absolutely paranoid yourself if I may be so honest. Please take your mental health seriously - just like you don't want sleep deprivation, you DON'T want a potential mental illness. It will sap your gains even worse, trust me.

>I'm not going to follow his lead and nuke my accounts to be out of the picture.
No that's not what I meant, don't nuke your accounts - just keep on drawing and posting, but ghost that guy entirely. Don't reply to his DMs or comments, block him if you can, and do NOT contact him to brag once you get better. It is EXACTLY what he wants - he WILL still find a way to put you down and make you feel even worse. He sounds like an absolutely terrible person, so I have no doubt that's what he'll do. Think about this scenario - you keep posting and improving. You don't think about him anymore. Slowly you forget about him. Then there comes a time when he doesn't appear in your thoughts for weeks or months. You are happy and content with your work, while he is sitting right there gnashing his teeth stalking your account but unable to make jabs at you because you blocked him long ago. Doesn't this sound like a good scenario?

>I'll just do that once per week then.
Still not worth it tbqh - even one all-nighter will mess up your sleep cycle for several days, it's really not worth it for a measly 8 extra hours of work. Just let go of that idea altogether, there's really no shame in admitting an idea of yours was bad.

[Anonymous No.5188004]

>>5187958
You know right when I posted this >>5187923 I reread >>5187723 and it started to make a bit of sense. Maybe I'm also putting too much urgency because I don't want to waste my free time. But I could also use the extra time to catch up on my backlog of shows. I find that being "lazy" but I'd probably never get to all the stuff I put off for a long time.
>he WILL still find a way to put you down and make you feel even worse.
Yeah. I put my account to private once and posted things but he still found a way to mess with me by saying things on his dummy account while posting on other accounts (he would not share) as if I'm born yesterday. Or previously he would say random negative things then lock his account regularly knowing I would read it and it did mess with my feelings a lot. Really I only locked my twitter because I didn't want to get hurt by him again.

He'd like my art and then unlike it a few hours later. Things like that. I just couldn't tell if he was serious about me or jealous or just messing with me the whole time. It made me not want to draw for weeks and then when I finally get back into it by whatever shred of courage I could muster up, he finds a way to mess with me.

>Just let go of that idea altogether, there's really no shame in admitting an idea of yours was bad.
Yes it was dumb a dumb idea in rage. I'll change up my idea but tone it down a bit.

[Anonymous No.5188030]

>>5186484
You're right. Any tips not to be discouraged when your drawings look bad/not as good as your expectation? I know animation isn't all about how amazing your draftmanship is, but still it can be depressing when your lines and drawings don't look good as you wanted them to be.
>>5186607
Thanks, yeah stick figure animation is amazing despite many people hating it. I've seen many amazing stick animation done on 2ds and 3ds, even. Gotta start reading Animator's Survival Kit seriously this time.

[Anonymous No.5188060]

>>5188004
Oh anon, I can't tell you how happy I am that I managed to help you somewhat. I don't know you but this really means a lot to me. :)

>>I find that being "lazy" but I'd probably never get to all the stuff I put off for a long time.
First things first, you are NOT a machine - please keep that in mind. You are a human being and a person; this human being needs rest and sleep, and this person needs fun and treats. There is a balance to everything, and working too much is just as bad as working too little. If you don't stress it and start at a reasonable pace, you will soon be able to pick up speed.

>>Maybe I'm also putting too much urgency because I don't want to waste my free time.
I understand you completely - what with you saying you "only have 4/5 months" left of unlimited free time. And it is indeed a good idea to use that time to invest in yourself and learn new skills - like drawing. But what you need to understand, is that stressing over things is literally the biggest waste of time. It's 100x worse than just "being lazy", because at least when you're being lazy you're recharging your energy - while stressing out wastes both your time AND your energy. I realize it's hard not to feel stressed in such a situation, but you really need to attempt it. Besides, is going to a job really so bad? Sure you will have less free time, but you will still be drawing! And if you don't have the pressure on your head of trying to one-up that guy anymore, there will literally be no problem left with improving a little slower.

>>when I finally get back into it by whatever shred of courage I could muster up, he finds a way to mess with me
See, what did I tell ya, he's a plain ol' bully and probably mentally ill himself. Block him and his alt right now and be done with this farce.

[Anonymous No.5188134]

>>5188060
>Besides, is going to a job really so bad? Sure you will have less free time, but you will still be drawing! And if you don't have the pressure on your head of trying to one-up that guy anymore, there will literally be no problem left with improving a little slower.

You're right and I didn't think of it that way. I should also be using this time to recoup my state of mind. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.5188239]

>>5186021
>One day, one bloody day, I will have my revenge on all d/ic/kweeds and those who I once considered my art "friend". I will rise in skill while they will fall further. They will see me and regret they ever betrayed my trust. I will become pro
lmao goodluck with that

[Anonymous No.5188246]

Okay, but can we address the porn ads? And no I don’t mean the fact that they’re there in the first place, but the subject matter itself. The ones that keep getting pushed are of the red headed landwhale and the twink faggot who gets his ass eaten by the girl. What the fuck are the Jews up to?

[Anonymous No.5188255]

I'm always sad that several /ic/ artists achieve more progress than me on the same timeframes. I draw as much as I can but I have a full time job which is quite demanding but even so I cannot help to feel bad even if they probably have full time to dedicate themselves to it.

[Anonymous No.5188307]

>>5188246
>2021
>Still seeing ads
You were the zogbot all along, you already failed the litmus test

[Anonymous No.5188406]

I don't know what happened, but I somehow pressed a key and exited Krita without saving. I lost a lot of progress and was super frustrated before this, so I am pissed now. How the fuck did I do this? Is this a feature or a bug?

Pick related

[Anonymous No.5188455]

>>5188246
>mfw I'm starting to find the red-head hot in a "find and fuck at a women's march rally" kind if way

[Anonymous No.5188491]

I thought depression was a meme, but holy shit I feel completely dead inside, like there's no point in anything, why the fuck do I feel like this and how do I fix it.

[Anonymous No.5188516]

>>5188491
>how do I fix it.
Drugs. Whether its the legal or illegal ones is your choice.

[Anonymous No.5188523]

>>5188491
good diet, sleep and exercise

[Anonymous No.5188524]

>>5188516
I'm not taking advice from a junkie, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5188530]

>>5188523
You're right, I need to get my shit together, this is seriously affecting my drawing gains.

[Anonymous No.5188552]

>>5188530
baby steps m8 or you'll get overwhelmed and burned out
best of luck to both of us

[Anonymous No.5188557]

Reminder talent is real
statistics mean you'll (at best) always be a twitter artist
Younger generations are going to completely obliterate you

[Anonymous No.5188615]

it's just not fun anymore when I keep making ugly drawing after ugly drawing

[Anonymous No.5188628]

>weekend to relax
>figure I try to get a commission done
>sketch ends up taking 8 hours because its one of those "take several elements from these images and make me an oc, but then I'll ask for multiple edits since I gave you no real guidance on what to draw" orders

[Anonymous No.5188641]

>try drawing a body using the frames and guide line bullshit
>took 5 times longer and it looks worse

[Anonymous No.5188642]

>>5188628
>make me an oc, but then I'll ask for multiple edits
What's wrong with that, you're doing a character design commission after all. That's why it usually cost at least 3 times more than your usual comm price, since you'll be drawing at least 3 sketches before the job is done.

[Anonymous No.5188645]

>>5188642
I did a very bad goof. I only charged 25% more of my standard price and thats because they also asked for multiple alternative faces. I need to make a new sheet stating my terms

[Anonymous No.5188645,1]

I've been learning anatomy for the past two months using deliberate practice,analyzing the figure, doing studies, drawing from reference and from imagination, everyday at least 3 hours a day, and it got me huge gains, and I'm happy with that, but eventually I felt burned out by my own "art schedule" and now I don't want to draw or study anything. Everytime I think about studying certain art topic or any drawing in general I feel like it's more sort of a work I don't want to do, I should be having fun,but now I'm demotivated

[Anonymous No.5188679]

>>5186100
On second thought, we are not doing art together. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.5188705]

>>5188406
Sounds like you crashed. Check whether canvas acceleration is disabled, and maybe toggle that, maybe reset krita's settings too.

If it happened again, try a different free drawing app that uses less system resources, like firealpaca

[Anonymous No.5188725]

>>5188679
I'm sorry
How can I make it up to you
We should really do art together
>>5188641
what frames

[Anonymous No.5188733]

>>5186065
post discord

[Anonymous No.5188737]

>>5188725
Sorry I wouldn't feel comfortable anymore with that now, hope you find happiness.

[Anonymous No.5188779]

>>5186021
I'm really not comfortable sharing this board with a bunch of fascist anime fans.

[Anonymous No.5188788]

>>5188779
Sounds to me you're in the wrong website, I'm sure reddit will be more to your liking

[Anonymous No.5188805]

I'm not sleeping today since my client asked for 7 edits during the sketch of the commission and I just want to ink and color it to be done and sleep stress free

[Anonymous No.5188857]

>>5186021
My little brother went to Full Sail for digital art/animation because my parents were guilted him into getting a degree. Now he owes like 25k. He graduated a few months ago and he still hasn't made any money. His stuff is kind of autistic, but he's got some good stuff too. What the fuck do I tell him?

[Anonymous No.5188864]

>>5186653
my guess is he joined a discord and shared some secrets and they screenshotted them. many such cases with zoomies

[Anonymous No.5188868]

>>5188725
like drawing the shape first when drawing bodies, stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.5188879]

>>5187453
this is wholesome and a good attitude. by expelling your own demons honestly, you attract others who are still like that.

[Anonymous No.5188892]

>>5188406
By the silhouette of the open jacket I thought she had an immensely large penis before I opened this. /ic/ has broken me lol-

[Anonymous No.5188914]

>>5188004
>Yes it was dumb a dumb idea in rage. I'll change up my idea but tone it down a bit.
bro its obviously your friend trying to set you up for failure again. draw 12 hours a day otherwise you won't gmi

[Anonymous No.5188973]

>>5188857
25k isnt so bad unless he didnt learn shit. He could make porn animations and pay it off in two years easy

[Anonymous No.5188975]

>>5188246
>browser has a built in ad blocker
>also have an ad blocker extension, because I've been using the browser since before that was added
>and a 4chan extension that blocks ads in addition to other stuff it does
Sometimes I wish I could see the ads, but it's too much trouble to disable everything.

[Anonymous No.5188989]

The internet has made me realize that in an environment with no threats of repercussion, people with no discipline and no arguments prevail. This lack of accountability has single-handedly destroyed humanity.

[Anonymous No.5189021]

>>5186021
I don’t know what I’m living for anymore

[Anonymous No.5189047]

Every day I feel like I'm a bit closer to dropping out of school, I feel nothing for it and there is no love in what I'm studying. But I can't drop out, I don't want to let my parents down and I don't want to let myself down. Ever since winter break ended I can feel my motivation draining away; I still draw daily but at this point I'm just forcing myself to at least draw something so I don't feel as if I've given up.
These online classes has taken away all my joy and color to the point where I can't stand the idea of even doing something irrelevant like drawing or just playing video games. I hate this lock down, I hate my online classes, I hate having to even think about my future holds, I just want to see my friends and find joy in drawing again.

[Anonymous No.5189050]

>>5188406
Krita have auto save feature, it is enabled by default if not enableit in the settings, if it crashes after restarting krita it will ask to open the backup

[Anonymous No.5189052]

>>5188246
kek I see these. The other ones are the ginormous cock pills, just a guy with a foot long flaccid cock dangling it around next to a bottle of pills. Sometimes he’s slapping it on an oiled ass. Good guy

[Anonymous No.5189062]

>>5188246
Ads? What are ads?

[Anonymous No.5189069]

>>5189052
The cock pill ads I'm getting went progressively from promising growth in "weeks" to "days" to literally "minutes" lol

[Anonymous No.5189116]

>>5189069
technological advancements never cease to impress me. Thank god for those boys in silicone valley

[Anonymous No.5189198]

>made league of legends porn
>posted on social
>barely any engagements, very little likes and retweets
>find the same image posted on a League RP account
>thousands of likes hundreds of retweets
>comments are all horny roleplayers
>mfw

[Anonymous No.5189240]

This entire time, nothing was stopping me from drawing. I could've gotten up and bashed out a few sketches any moment, but I didn't. I was free to make the decision at any point in time. Quitting video games didn't solve my "laziness". Fixing my sleep schedule didn't fix anything. I would always ask, "why am I not drawing? there has to be a reason". But there is no reason, and there doesn't need to be. I can just get up draw whenever the fuck I want now, even now.
And now I'm drawing. Feels fucking good man.

[Anonymous No.5189278]

Got two things I gotta vent about.. first things first I've been lurking here for almost a year now and among all other things that have helped me the most it's the resources provided here. (RIP Megalink for those of you who didn't get it. I'm sorry.) I wanted to get this out of the way to thank those who really do try to give good info out here but with that being said I have a serious fucking question for /ic/ what the fuck is everyone in /begs/ problem? Do people really think you just become come good in less then a year? Who in their right mind thinks this way? Why is 6 month schizo so upset? Hes making fine progress for the average person. Also I'd say a good I dunno 50% of /beg/ isn't actually /beg/ but artist who aren't confident and that shows in their work thus rendering them "beg" Either way people give eachother terrible fucking advice in those threads and they overthink drawing in such a way that imo they truly are ngmi. Do they fail to see the charm in every single artist in existence lies within the human element of the drawing? The imperfections along with the consideration of fundamentals. The very thing everyone argues on this board and many others on this website we know as "soul" I may be progressing and learning but with how much I see people struggle with certain no brainer concepts here I can't help but think I'm the only 25 year old man most of the time.
The other thing I wanted to vent about is digital art, I fucking hate how it looks and I think it people who love it the way they do either work in the industry or they're fucking zoomers. The only benefit to digital in my eyes is money saved on material and time saved with the tools available in softwares. Otherwise I see Z E R O benefit to it, if anything it's a complete handicap for me personally. When I do art traditionally I am not thinking about fucking layers, masking layers, color filters, overlays, and all of the other bullshit that comes with digital.

[Anonymous No.5189279]

>>5189198
Next time just post the image in a reply to a thread of a already popular twitter account like the one you saw your drawing get reposted to.

[Anonymous No.5189285]

>>5189047
You need to buckle up and get ready partner because the world is only going to get weirder for a while. Take advantage of this time period because (hopefully) we never experience it again once it's over. This lockdown sucks and so does the "new normal" insanity. But I am taking this time and free money to focus on drawing/art and self fulfillment in general. I've cut back hugely on substances almost to none at all and am beginning to focus on better dieting and working out. Take a break... get offline for a day or two hell even longer if you can. Get out in the woods if your area permits it, veg out when you feel real down with just some old good TV/vids, you gotta take care of yourself or you're going to be in this rut forever.

[Anonymous No.5189292]

>>5189278
So what if you're 2 years in and still /beg/ when several /ic/ posters started doing great art after such period. Isn't like I haven't been drawing and practicing either, I do it daily.

[Anonymous No.5189296]

>>5189278
Good post anon, I agree with you.
Digital can be cool however, if you give yourself limits

[Anonymous No.5189303]

>>5189278
6 months schizo is very clearly mentally ill so that's an edge case, but you do raise a very important point - that people who only want to improve as fast as possible usually end up getting nowhere. I would say that's just human nature and not necessarily people being immature per se. Everyone has their own reasons and circumstances in learning art, and anxiety over things like wasting time, a perceived lack of improvement, etc., will inevitably arise in most people - counterproductive as it may be. And your assessment of /beg/ is wrong - on the beg/int/pro scale each step is a VERY wide spectrum, and most of the people from these threads do fit into them even if they can draw (somewhat) coherent works. It could be theoretically split into lower beg and higher beg threads, but that would only exacerbate the stagnation of people in the "lower" end.

[Anonymous No.5189315]

>>5189278
>The other thing I wanted to vent about is digital art, I fucking hate how it looks
Same.
>The only benefit to digital in my eyes is money saved on material.
If you're just drawing you could easily buy 1000 pages of printer paper on amazon for dirt cheap and it would last you the entire year.

[Anonymous No.5189320]

>>5189198
Even though you failed to promote your work to the correct audience, enough people saw it and liked it that it managed to spread anyway through reposts and sharing.

[Anonymous No.5189326]

>>5186420
Some of your coworkers? In a car accident, right?

[Anonymous No.5189356]

>>5189320
nigga shut your goofy up

[Anonymous No.5189387]

>>5189356
What?

[Anonymous No.5189403]

>>5189387
*shut your goofy ass up

[Anonymous No.5189409]

>>5189356
>hyuk didja head that maxie? I thought this nigga woulda known not to fuck with the hyuk. Fetch the smith n wessun, son

[Anonymous No.5189431]

>>5189356
>thankya maxie. Shucks anon I’d hate to catch you on the block again hyuk

[Anonymous No.5189444]

>>5189303
What are the qualifications for each caste?
Beg
Int
Pro

[Anonymous No.5189466]

>>5189303
>perceived lack of improvement
How do I get over this? it seems very factual in my case

[Anonymous No.5189471]

>browse instagram
>see good artist
>click on profile
>they're fucking 14
holy hell. I'm happy for them but that was a blow to see. I'm dissapointed in myself for being so behind in skill after all this time and also angry at my education for never giving me a proper art class. no, instead we got a fucking class about how to do make-up

[Anonymous No.5189473]

>>5186021
Everyone I know who draws mentions that they hate it. They hate drawing and they hate how their art looks. Are they doing some shitty inside joke thing or are artists really masochists?

[Anonymous No.5189476]

>>5189471
Survivorship bias, Anon. For every 14 year old who's amazing there are ten more who suck. The one who's great is going to be promoted more.

[Anonymous No.5189486]

>>5189473
They’re not masochists. All public artists are attention seeking faggots. It’s like girls who say they’ve got Instagram for the memories. And they wear makeup for themselves too tehe. And they wear clothes with their tits out because it’s comfortable tehehe. I’m not even a woman hater I’m married to a normal one, but I’m just making an analogy. Artists are mostly faggots who do it for attention

[Anonymous No.5189496]

>>5189473
100 bad drawings are worth it if there comes just one good drawing

[Anonymous No.5189499]

>>5189471
Post the profile

[Anonymous No.5189500]

>>5189476
Same thing happens with talented people, yet the ones who are not talented and die on the way were never working hard enough apparently.

[Anonymous No.5189507]

>>5189278
Good post fellow 25 year old anon. Digital art does suck ass, and yes, soul is pretty damn important. I realize that more every day

[Anonymous No.5189509]

>>5189473
>>5189486
> They’re not masochists
I’m actually a huge one, it’s part of why I like things that can cause emotional distress and pain to me

[Anonymous No.5189517]

>>5189476
you're right
how do they even get gains so fast so young? it's amazing. well, as long as we make it then I can die happy. whenever that is

>>5189499
sadly I forgot her name

[Anonymous No.5189521]

>>5189486
>Artists are mostly faggots
>>5189509
>I’m actually a huge one

[Anonymous No.5189524]

>>5189517
>how do they even get gains so fast so young?
Research, draw a lot. Easy to do when youre young with lots of time and zero responsabilities

[Anonymous No.5189545]

>>5189524
shit, you right

[Anonymous No.5189559]

>>5189545
I just wanna say to any teens who may be lurking here: Don't give up. You will have almost no free time after secondary school.

[Anonymous No.5189569]

>coom / provocative drawings are an easy way to get likes / follows / comms
>never horny
>my attempts at suggestive art always miss the mark bc I'm not a coomer

[Anonymous No.5189575]

>>5189569
increase tit size

[Anonymous No.5189601]

>>5189569
lowtest af

[Anonymous No.5189655]

>>5189569
Emphasize the fact that you're asexual on all your online profiles and try to get the SJW market.

[Anonymous No.5189663]

>>5189655
do sjw even have money?

[Anonymous No.5189669]

>>5186021
iggypop the bastard

[Anonymous No.5189701]

>>5189655
I'm not even. I feel kinda horny like once a month but that's it. I used to be more "normal" from ages like 16-21 but now I don't care anymore. Oh well

[Anonymous No.5189703]

>>5186021
WHEN WILL SHE ASK ME OUT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH SHE IS SO CUUUUUUTTTE SHE NEEDS TO BE MY GF NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

[Anonymous No.5189716]

I hope you feel better. Take care.

[Anonymous No.5189723]

>>5189655
Not him but I've had a passing thought of saying I'm ace just to avoid all the relentless sexual shit. Then I've taken a look at the label and it's all "asexuals" who watch porn etc. so it's the same bunch of degenerates with a different speshul label because being gay is not gay enough. You can't even pick a decent mask to participate to this clown show.

[Anonymous No.5189731]

>>5189723
iirc only being interested in masturbation, (and NOT having sex) counts as ace too. dunno

[Anonymous No.5189738]

>>5189731
Pretty sure that having sex too counts as ace because words now mean whatever you want them to mean depending on what's convenient.

[Anonymous No.5189742]

>>5189703
>when will she ask me out
You aren't a man. No woman will put up with you past being an emotional tampon for them.

[Anonymous No.5189780]

>>5189738
oh god please no I don't want to get lumped with retards even more

[Anonymous No.5191071]

HOW DO I MAKE DRAWING FUN AGAIN?

[Anonymous No.5191081]

>>5186021
>art friends
you can't have friends and also make art

[Anonymous No.5191116]

>decide not to draw for 5 days, play minecraft with friends and watch GME
>my drawing looks like shit again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH learned my lesson

[Anonymous No.5191157]

I seriously in my head played scenarios with a guy whom I don’t even know or what they look like past the keyboard that I wanted to hold and kiss.

I stayed in bed. Majority of the day. Sad. I’m seriously messed up beyond repair. I should just unplug my Ethernet cable and lock my phone up for a whole 6 months but I fucking can’t because I need to download my shows. If only there was a way to block every website except for a few and not bypass it.

[Anonymous No.5191162]

>>5191157
No, I tried that before and it only fucks me over because there ends up being a website I need to get to but can’t. This is going to take a while...

[Anonymous No.5191166]

why is it so hard to get myself to do anything other than mindlessly browse my phone? I don't wanna fucking die having done nothing with my life but this

[Anonymous No.5191347]

>>5187439
>supposedly have massive IQ and talent
>type up some middle-school-tier shit like its a huge epiphany
Yeah I'm thinking that you're exaggerating a bit there sweetie.

[Anonymous No.5191424]

I’m pretty fuckin pissed off, I’ve started getting ads that aren’t pornnographic, has anyone else encountered this bullshit bug? What happened to horse sized dick guy?

[Anonymous No.5191461]

>>5189285
Good point, it's probably been over a year since the last time I went out and just enjoyed nature I probably have a vitamin D deficiency or something. I'll definitely make some time to just go out for a walk and just take nature in.

[Anonymous No.5191549]

Does every moderately decent porn artist just bust their ass for thousands and thousands of hours learning how shit works in 3D space? Isn't a sense of space in that sense a component of IQ itself? I don't think I can rewire my brain to that level. How is doodling, something I used to ache to do, so incredibly stressful? I forget to even breathe and it's not making me any better and I don't know how to get better. Also fuck loomis

[Anonymous No.5191559]

>>5191549
Unironically learn and use 3D programs to cheat perspective but also slowly supplement your learning of 3D spaces and perspective.

It's not great for tracing directly over but it is great for learning how an environment should look with correct depth scaling, how foreshortening should look, how different lenses affect an image etc..

[Anonymous No.5191561]

>>5191549
you're stressing because you're focusing on the act of getting good as a means unto itself. just draw, homie. stop visiting /ic/ for a month or two and just draw.

[Anonymous No.5191578]

>>5186021
>Start doing something
>Really happy with how it's coming along
>Have retarded position so I have to stop because I'm aching
>I'll finish it tomorrow
>Tomorrow comes
>I'll fuck it up if I try to finish it
>Better start something else instead
>Do the same thing with that until I reach trying to start something and nothing comes

What's the word for this, other than retardation? Particularly when one day everything goes perfect and the next day you can't draw a circle around a penny.

[Anonymous No.5191658]

The moment I message twatter support to unban my account in 30 minutes the bans were lifted. I waited almost a week for it to go away.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Anonymous No.5191721]

Fuck, I thought drawing lewds and coom shit would be easy but it's harder than I thought. I keep wanting to draw elaborate scenes but the average coom artist on Twitter seems to just close up on the fucking, no bg, and get thousands of followers
I was hoping this would be an easy way to get some commissions, but I can't even break 10 followers

[Anonymous No.5191735]

my vent is this. i hate my job. it's not that it's too much work. it's just too stressful. it's made me into an angry person. i don't like what i have become. people tell me everyday i should be grateful to have any job at all. or they tell me my job is easy because it's not manual labor and i can do it from home.

the problem is, for one, every customer is angry. every one starts in with an argument. looking to accuse you of something.

there is an involuntary physiological response in my body. it's anticipating a physical fight. i have so much tension now in my shoulders that i have developed this terrible pain between my spine and my shoulder blade.

On top of that every process is extremely over complicated. If a customer wants to place an order, it will take me forever to get that done so instead i am doing mental jiu jitsu to try to talk them out of buying things from us. you have to open like 3 separate programs some of which are glitchy as hell. you have to talk to this nasty old bitch who will bark at you because you are inconveniencing her.

You have to get all this extra info from the customer that they don't want to give you because marketing wants us to collect this shit so we can sell their data to third parties.

It's not about the money at all. I have enough money that all my bills are paid at the end of the month. If I wanted to I could buy a VR headset right now. If countries were open to tourists I could afford a vacation right now. It's purely the stress.

The other day I got a call from this guy who bought a piece of equipment, I'll just say it was a shaker. Scientists put them in labs to shake test samples. And he complained that it's shaking too much. And you might think that's funny but I have to give this guy an answer. I have him send me a video. I'm like yea it's shaking. It's a shaker. He's like "yea but isn't it shaking a bit too much." You can't just dismiss them.

[Anonymous No.5191738]

>>5191735
He calls the sales rep and they come back to me screaming that they want to return the fucking thing and that I was rude and unreasonable.

So I have to get the manufacturer of the fucking thing involved and send them a video and they are like "what kind of table does he have it on." And I'm like, listen... just talk to him directly. And they're like , no we don't talk to customers. You have to relay the message. So I' ask him and he's like "I've been waiting three days for a response, and that's all you have to say to me? Managers are putting more and more pressure on us everyday, more tasks, more products. Products that I don't even know we sell. Products I've never seen.

I'm freaking out. I'm gonna throw my laptop through the fucking wall one of these days. I've been looking for a new job for about 6 months. I'm gonna have to take a big pay cut but I can't take this shit anymore. When I complain to my bosses they literally laugh. They constantly tell me I'm in no position to complain. They're so concerned about my fucking numbers. Every day a reminded. Anon your numbers, anon your numbers. Well how are my fucking numbers gonna look when I quit? How long is the hold time gonna be when I don't work for you anymore? How are you gonna train a new person to do this job remotely?

I'm so fucking done bros.

[Anonymous No.5191762]

>>5191721
Is that game good? I wish there's an android version

[Anonymous No.5191778]

>>5191762
No, but it's not really a game. When you enter the game, there are other crabs depending on the number of other people playing at the moment. If a crab is talking you can tap it and read the dialogue, but that's about it.
The developer made it in 3 days because he couldn't get into Clubhouse (fotm app)

[Anonymous No.5191793]

>>5191738
>>5191735
>the problem is, for one, every customer is angry.

I have been doing phone customer service on and off since 2015. Bro, you're on 4chan everyday and get called all sorts of name calling. Customers should not phase you at this point. In fact, when they get angry I find it fucking hilarious and want to hold in my laughter.

There was this coworker I remember who worked late shift and when the customer asks retarded questions he would hold the mute button and shout at the top of his voice basically cursing at them, calling them queers, etc. Once you get used to your systems you realize even the most retard of retards can do your job. So much that you can easily slack off most of the day. I would be on 4chan/read manga while waiting for a call and most calls would be the same routine.

>LET ME SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER
Fuck no. Reel them back in. Let them know YOU have the power to fix the problem and that your manager ain't going to do shit. Just assure them you can see everything "in your system" and everything is documented.

If a customer gets uppity you put them in their place. Never let these people talk you down because they're trying to manipulate you even though you're just a lemming doing your job.
>Every day a reminded. Anon your numbers, anon your numbers.
Yep. That's the nature of call centers everywhere. They want people to produce. On one hand I just thought of it as a some weird pokemon thing of wanting to be the best and it worked. I got better pay and a better position. Was even treated like royalty with my own office (in the late stages).

But if it sucks and your employer just treats you like dirt then hold no loyalty to them. Just find a way to get fired and collect unemployment imo.

[Anonymous No.5191795]

>>5191793
And emphasis on
>Just find a way to get fired and collect unemployment imo.
NEVER quit your job. Always make them let you go. Especially if you're in the states you're getting extra $$$ from the insurance.

[Anonymous No.5191816]

>Being in love for a girl
>having a hard time to focus on my own things due to that
>discovering throught a conversation that she already like someone so I don't have any chance
>Get dissapointed but at least I can be more focused now

It's not even a "horny" love when it happen.

The good thing is that it's not something that often happen,and it doesen't last long.

[Anonymous No.5191820]

>>5191793
im not customer service im tech support. but same difference i guess. you are saying the same shit everyone says "you should just not care" "you should just feel differently" "you should juts stop getting stressed out" as though that is a conscious choice i have made.

if this was a job where i had to build crates, which i something i used to do, it was like ok, we need 3 crates, here's the dimensions, ply wood is over there, nails are over there.

i could build 3 crates. if the goal was t build as many crates as possible, i could make more crates. if the obstacle was that my arm was tired from hammering, i could grit my teeth and just get it down.

when i get a call from some retard who wants me to walk him through connecting up to his PC and he doesn't listen to me and gets ahead of me and keeps fucking it up. I can not control how i react in that situation. If I get a call from some chink college student and i can't understand them and i have to sit there and listen extremely closely and ask them to repeat themselves 15 times and the call takes me 45 minutes, i cant control how i will react in that situation.
If I get a call and its some fucking boomer who bought some piece of shit back in 74 and he wants parts and i have to explain to him that we don't carry parts for things we sold 46 years ago, and then he persists for some reason and won't get off the phone, i can not control how i react in that situation. I probably hang up on at least 5 people a day.

If you call me during lunch time and then you start bitching that you were on hold too long, I am likely to hang up on you and put you back to the end of the line. Obviously that's the busiest hour.

If you come in all bright eyed and bushy tailed wanting small talk, I might hang up on you. I will at least tell you to get to the fucking point.

point is I've been doing this for over 4 years. Ive got about 35 left until retirement. 0% chance I last that long May as well rip the band-aid off now

[Anonymous No.5191821]

>>5191793
i read dumb shit from 4chan but i'm not in voice calls with them. reading some idiots inane ramblings isn't even close to experiencing the same diatribe vocally hurled at you.

[Anonymous No.5191830]

>>5191821
>reading some idiots inane ramblings isn't even close to experiencing the same diatribe vocally hurled at you.

I dunno to me it is but to be fair you have to play some mental gymnastics with yourself to overcome the verbal abuse. It's not for everyone. I don't even think of the person on the other line as another human. All I care about is making sure I get them scheduled so I can make my extra bucks and appease my Jewish boss.

I did tech support--actually it was a tech scam support sales job where I ripped off boomers and rich, whuite california college girls who owned Macs and were scared that had a pop up on their screen. So I know what those people sound like. And then you have the trailer trash who are really stupid and are easy to manipulate but are the nicest people you'll get on a call. I don't know exactly what you do but in my case ....

if you're the expert and they're calling in because their computer is "broken" then you have all the power in the world because they don't know shit about computers. You can show them something in the command prompt and they'll beleive you. Or open up task manager and say your computer has gone to shit and you need an upgrade--they'll believe you. Because only retards call tech support. It's easy money to get them to upgrade.

[Anonymous No.5191836]

>>5191820
>point is I've been doing this for over 4 years. Ive got about 35 left until retirement. 0% chance I last that long May as well rip the band-aid off now

Start finding a new job now then. No need to put yourself through the stress.

[Anonymous No.5191844]

>>5191836
i am. ive been looking for months. i think i said that already.

[Anonymous No.5191934]

>>5191735
>>5191738
When the job gets tough, just remember that you deserve it. It's your job, after all. To act as a buffer between the customers and the management, and absorb all the stress so they don't have to. That's why they are paying you, and that's what you agreed to do when you accepted their money.

[Anonymous No.5191957]

>>5191934
His job is to make his boss happy. If his boss is happy then his bosses boss will be happy. That’s all you have to think about; my job is to get my numbers so it can make Gregorstien happy. Who cares if the zogbot calling in gets off the phone happy or not...they’re not paying him.

[Anonymous No.5192023]

>asks for criticism
>just wants attention

[Anonymous No.5192028]

>>5191844
That sucks anon, I'm sure it's even harder to find a job now with this coff shit. You mentioned you have disposable income, but do you have any savings to maybe live ok for a few months or go part time?

[Anonymous No.5192037]

>>5186021
Fuck I love drawing fat bitches

[Anonymous No.5192066]

Does anyone knows what happened to asukafag

[Anonymous No.5192093]

>>5192066
Think he just stopped posting, but he still uploads art to his twitter.

[Anonymous No.5192218]

I suddenly remembered the worst crab advice that was everywhere when I was but a wee bairn discovering digital art for the first time.
>Do not copy other artists, you'll be just copying their mistakes! Draw only from life!
I'm going to build a time machine and tell my younger self to copy the shit of everything I liked because I had good eye and taste even back then.
And maybe punch some fucking echo-chamber deviantart retards. I hope they all became trannies and choked on onions milk.

[Anonymous No.5192237]

>>5192218
how much of drawing from life did you do until you decide to study other artist fren? actual babby here

[Anonymous No.5192295]

>>5192218
This is why we crab, look at this cuck who got all his time wasted. ALWAYS keep your competition down. You gain NOTHING from helping others, do NOT share resources, report MEGA links to publishers, and give WRONG advice to waste young people's time.

[Anonymous No.5192301]

>>5192237
I was utter shit at figure drawing so I quit it after a year without seeing any progress. Mindless flopping around.
Still lives were easier and I did them on and off for a couple of years maybe. At least it gave me some basic understanding of values and composition.
The problem was that I wanted to draw characters and there's no way to learn to do something if you're not doing it, so I shouldn't have gotten spooked by the idea of "copying wrong hurr", it deterred me from actually drawing what I wanted for years.
>>5192295
Well meme'd my friend.

[Anonymous No.5192379]

>broke my ~100 day drawing streak a couple of days ago and haven't drawn since
It also really doesn't help that I masturbate 7 times a day and kill all of my motivation

[Anonymous No.5192394]

>>5192379
Stop masturbating like a caveman. Buy an onahole and VR headset and some weed, and have 3 hour edge sessions. You'll only want to masturbate once every few days at most, eventually cutting it down to 2 times a week because of how exhausting and satisfying this process is.

[Anonymous No.5192399]

I unironically want to die. I'm just really tired of life. I know it's wrong somehow but all the talk about hope has gotten so old I just skip it like an ad. Not to mention it's all about getting you to be a productive little ant.
There are things that I love but once they are gone I will have no reason to be around. It's a scary thought but I think I'm way past my expiration date. I feel like a sad old man who was forgotten by the world and just wants to get some rest.
Thanks for reading my blog.

[Anonymous No.5192407]

is it possible that mental barriers like low self-esteem and depression can weaken your gains? how do i get over them?

[Anonymous No.5192431]

Perspective is so hard!

[Anonymous No.5192432]

>>5192399
git gud at art

[Anonymous No.5192439]

>>5189742
Other girls ask me out but not my crush :(((

[Anonymous No.5192440]

>>5192431
its not
perspective can either only be right or wrong

[Anonymous No.5192445]

>>5192440
>its not
you don't know anything about perspective!

[Anonymous No.5192447]

>>5192432
I'm not even sure if I care about art any longer. I'm starting to think this is all just a glorified waste of time. Maybe I'm just using this to cope with life. I don't know. I draw all the time but it feels meaningless. I am using art to vent my worst feelings so it's not pleasant.

[Anonymous No.5192494]

I wish replying with "booba" or similar things would just result in an instant ban. So sick and tired of every thread being ruined by these retards.

[Anonymous No.5192515]

>>5192494
4chanx, add a filter like /^booba/i

[Anonymous No.5192534]

>>5192494
Fuck off, booba is great

[Anonymous No.5192584]

>>5192534
This
>muh discord trannies are forcing memes down my throat
Fuck off retard. Coomers are loud proud and here to stay.

[Anonymous No.5192587]

>>5192494
>he doesn't enjoy boobs
Filthy homo get out, this board is for straight coomers only.

[Anonymous No.5192601]

All the things that frustrated me about drawing are so clear now and I know what to study. I just wish it became clearer sooner.

[Anonymous No.5192614]

>>5192534
>>5192584
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5192617]

>>5192614
shove a picasso up your ass retard

[Anonymous No.5192621]

>>5192617
picasso up the asso

[Anonymous No.5192649]

>post work in proper drawthread
>get no actual critique
>some asshat makes his own thread
>gets 50 replies
why even bother following the rules?

[Anonymous No.5192654]

>>5192649
in case you didn't realize in 2010, everything is about grabbing attention now
you're better off doing something outrageously bad or acting like a clown than doing something above average, especially if it's serious (God forbid you do anything that isn't ironic or "ironic" or takes a shit on something or is edgy or retarded).

[Anonymous No.5192698]

>>5192654
I agree. I became a board celeb by acting out of line. Nice guys finish last, brah.

[Anonymous No.5192700]

I moved to Japan, learned Japanese, got accepted to animation school, and took a shit job that has hours that would let me attend all in furtherance of becoming an animator. And the only thing standing in my way is my PSYCHO BITCH OF A BOSS. She'll intentionally dangle my job over my head, threatening to sac me if I don't do all this extra work outside of my working hours because she knows I need this job for two more years while I'm at school. I can't wait for the day I graduate so I can finally tell her to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5192701]

>>5192698
You’re not a celebrity you’re notoriously retarded. There’s a significant difference

[Anonymous No.5192705]

>>5192700
>he thinks it ends when he graduates
Oh anon

[Anonymous No.5192707]

>>5192701

Watch your tongue with me you peasant.

[Anonymous No.5192712]

>>5192617
Join the 42%.

[Anonymous No.5192713]

Why and how is Kimpring so popular on Twitch? He has 500 viewers right now. Is he some prettyboy Korean or something? Because I don’t see a difference between them and the other Asians who stream there.

[Anonymous No.5192742]

I hate this place but I hate normalfags more. This is why you never leave 4chan until you die. No matter how terrible this place gets, you can scream how much you hate normies. God I fucking hate normies so much. They've ruined everything since the dawn of time, with their fucking phones and stupid normie shit. They were fucking made for attention span raping devices that put your life on autopilot. They were made for phones. The entire evolutionary timeline of the normie had the end goal of smartphones and utter destruction of everything that is good.

[Anonymous No.5192753]

>>5192713
krumping is based

[Anonymous No.5192783]

>>5192742
Cry more. You will be an angry and sad cunt until you finally get the nerve to kill yourself someday, alone. Lay your head on a fucking train track, nobody will notice.

[Anonymous No.5192786]

>>5192783
I know and fuck you too.

[Anonymous No.5192793]

>>5192783
STOP! STOP IT! No more bullying! I don't want to see any more bullying here stop it *sob* *sob*

[Anonymous No.5192808]

>>5192783
Fuck you normie trash

[Anonymous No.5192809]

>>5192783
I wish that x-months guy would get on a train track he's just a literal psyops

[Anonymous No.5193016]

>>5192742
Yeah! Down with the normies! Do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.5193177]

FUCK

[Anonymous No.5193259]

>>5192654
>you're better off doing something outrageously bad or acting like a clown
I don't wanna be a clown

[Anonymous No.5193263]

>>5193177
Literally who? You made an op for that screen cap too
Who??

[Anonymous No.5193268]

>>5193263
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.5193292]

>>5186021
Fuckin sucks that some guys have so much ease to draw sexual stuff without any mental dillemas or the need to performental gymnastics to prodice art. If I had money for basic expenses of living, I'd draw a lot more. Most of the time I just contemplate, and my drawing is very quick. Usually, something works out fine, and other times I just feel unfulfilled with what I made. I know that the money os in coom art. Otherwise, I'd have to draw autistic shit for deviantart or whatever.

[Anonymous No.5193301]

>>5193268
Lurk less twigger

[Anonymous No.5193304]

>>5193177
>benign
>i will die
what?

[Anonymous No.5193365]

The asian jeans posting is getting to me, every fucking good artist turns out to be Asian. I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE

[Anonymous No.5193377]

>>5193304
if it's not treated, it will become more serious later on. What makes it worse, the location is difficult to remove. But taking the risk to remove it now rather than waiting until it becomes more serious is worth the shot.

[Anonymous No.5193380]

>>5189296
HEY youve got one chance to redeem yourself by admitting you were lying
otherwise i have your art and I WILL get my revenge
so thats what you actually think of me huh? that i have no soul

[Anonymous No.5193406]

>>5193377
just say its not benign

[Anonymous No.5193441]

>>5186065
dude, don't feel bad. Everyone in the art community is either posting shit here, porn on newgrounds, or gay porn on twitter/deviantart

[Anonymous No.5193443]

Not a vent but I didn't want to start a whole new thread for moments of intense relief.

>Finish drawing
>Do a final flip
>Still looks good
Thank you, universe.

[Anonymous No.5193524]

>>5193443
>flip canvas
>pic looks better
>but all the distinguishing features of the character are on the wrong side now

[Anonymous No.5193528]

>anon that i believe to be below my skill level posts art
>gets dozens of (you)s
>i post my art
>2 (you)s if im lucky

[Anonymous No.5193565]

>>5193528
stop anon, dopamine rots your brain

[Anonymous No.5193579]

I wish I was an artist living in a idyllic landscape on my own, painting and drawing without a care in the world. With no outside influence to bother me and allow me to delve into my own personal aesthetics in peace.

[Anonymous No.5193580]

>>5193565
its gotten to the point where i'm seriously reevaluating whether im actually as good as i think or not though
could i truthfully be a blind /beg/ who cant see just how shit he truly is? im going into psychosis over this shit

[Anonymous No.5193586]

>>5193580
Pyw and the other one for evaluation. If you’re afraid of getting shit on you don’t have to say which is yours

[Anonymous No.5193590]

>>5189500
Some people never make it, but it's less because they can't make it and more because they tell themselves that they can't. You have no excuse unless you're taking daily supplements of lead/paint chips, and both your hands have been replaced with hooks.

If you really doubt yourself this much, maybe you should try something that you can feel a passion for, regardless of how well you do in it?

[Anonymous No.5193594]

>>5193586
I don't have any example onhand atm, its just a regular occurence in the many drawthreads i frequent
no point in posting my work really, ive already gone back to grinding my fundies in an effort to hopefully get better than before

[Anonymous No.5193599]

>>5186021
I hate people in this community that look down on coom artists.

I don't get a lot of commissions but when I do I know I've made someone happy. They're always super excited about receiving the piece even if it's just a non-exclusive cheap YCH. Yes you feel like you're selling your soul a little bit, and you're drawing some pretty degenerate shit but there's nothing but good vibes in my Twitter DMs.

Just because everybody hates your fucking landscapes doesn't mean you have to look down on coom artists. We're all just doing what we enjoy doing and if it brings a smile to someone's face (probably while fapping to pixels you drew and uploading the video on twitter) then that's good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.5193642]

>>5193579
>I wish
Wish? Why not make it a goal?

[Anonymous No.5193675]

>>5193599
>I hate people in this community that look down on coom artists.
You are not an artist you fuckface, you do not even have the pretense of art, everything you make is just to activate a fucking lizard neuron in the smooth brain of the faggot who looks at your filthy shitty drawings and jerks off.
An art community with cumbrains is like trying to talk about movies but these faggots talk about porn and pornstars, you want to talk about acting or cinema and people talk about sucking dick and how much they've fapped to a thing and share porn torrents and how hot is the two-bit whore they worship.
You are fucking incompatible with art, you are incompatible with everything but porn, you act like drug dealers or some weird cult shitting up a neighborhood, you only bring degrade and misery and you will never stop until what little that is good in the environment has been replaced with gaping assholes and other filthy shit you jerk off to. You never know when to stop, you don't know your place, you just spread and spread like a cancer. I swear to god there is no category on the internet I hate more than cumbrains, you are the worst of the fucking worst. Fuck you and everything you represent, I hope that one day you'll get gassed like you deserve.
>inb4 catholic tranny and other cope
kys

[Anonymous No.5193726]

>>5193675
kek that's a whole lotta words you managed to type considering your tiny little brain wow good job

[Anonymous No.5193868]

steve huston is my daddy

[Anonymous No.5193897]

>>5193642


I forget places like this exist on this hell hole we call Earth. It's so beautiful...

[Anonymous No.5193902]

>>5193528
>post work
>only schitzo replies to it

[Anonymous No.5193910]

>>5193897
Needs some diversity if you ask me desu.

[Anonymous No.5193922]

>>5193590
>Maybe you should try something that you can feel a passion for
This is my passion, the fact that it makes me suffer shows how much I care about it

[Anonymous No.5193928]

writing a story but none of my main characters are black so far. I just can't imagine it. it makes me feel racist but I imagine everyone with pale-tan skin like an anime
do I just shoehorn some in the bg? would that be enough?

[Anonymous No.5193940]

>>5193928
just say your black and tell em to fuck off

[Anonymous No.5193951]

>>5193928
m8 they don’t have to be involved in the story if there just aren’t any in the story. You don’t have to shoehorn in a black guy. Just add a realistic amount of black people to the world. Don’t you have background characters?

[Anonymous No.5193956]

>>5193928
by the way I don’t mean specify “suddenly a BLACK man walked past”. Just use common sense

[Anonymous No.5193958]

>>5193928
Don't fucking worry about it, only racists care about whether there's a black person in your story or not.

[Anonymous No.5193961]

>>5193928
You can draw a character with Indian/Indonesian aesthetics and the black tranny mob on Twitter will leave you alone thinking they’re being represented.

[Anonymous No.5193976]

>>5192431
Truth hurts.

[Anonymous No.5193979]

>>5193259
You're in the wrong place then.

[Anonymous No.5193980]

>>5193304
I think what it means is that while the tumor is not growing, it's already a life-threatening problem.

[Anonymous No.5193983]

>>5193528
Maybe your art is boring.

[Anonymous No.5193985]

>>5193594
If you're talking about drawthreads on other boards, remember that attention does not always correlate to drawing skill. My drawings that got the most replies were memey shit I put zero effort in

[Anonymous No.5194092]

>>5186021
We're GMI bros, stay focused, stay strong and improve.

[Anonymous No.5194117]

>post art on twitter
>"nice art! do you take requests?"
>yeah, send me a DM and I'll give you a price quote!
>"Oh sorry, I meant for free! Thanks anyway teehee"
fuck why do people do this to artists

[Anonymous No.5194132]

What's the point in drawing when you will never improve beyond deviant art level

[Anonymous No.5194138]

I arrived from work and went straight to bed after having to stay awake for 24 hours working. I managed to sleep only 4 hours because I had no-draw anxiety and felt I was losing time and had to make up for the lost time of yesterday, I tried to progress on a portrait and nothing came right so I ended up wasting even more time and just made it worse, gotta go back to work in 3 hours. I wanted to quit when I could to fully dedicate myself to art but I'm really starting to think I'm terminally NGMI and that even if I did I would still be NGMI and end up with nothing except for more broken dreams.

[Anonymous No.5194146]

>>5194092
:3

[Anonymous No.5194150]

>>5194117
>Make art book
>'Wow I want this!'
>Okay I'll ship you one, just buy it on-'
>'No lol I'm pirating'

[Anonymous No.5194153]

>>5194117
Because you aren't with buying. Artists are paid for commissions everyday. You just suck.

[Anonymous No.5194161]

>>5194153
>You just suck.
I know. It made me happy for a few minutes that someone might want to buy my work, but I guess I'm worthless. Thanks for the reality check

[Anonymous No.5194188]

>>5193642
damn, I've never even seen a mountain IRL

[Anonymous No.5194190]

>>5194188
Yeah. I definitely need to go see something like that before I die.

[Anonymous No.5194199]

>>5194161
Cope

[Anonymous No.5194202]

>>5193579
You would literally not survive without modern civilization and 24/7 internet access, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.5194206]

>>5194190
You won't. You'll just keep saying you will until you eventually die.

[Anonymous No.5194217]

>>5194132
You need a big goal to get noticeable improvements.
Do you have a favorite artist? Try to surpassed him; the journey there itself will make you improves

>“Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.”

[Anonymous No.5194230]

>>5194206
;_____________________;

[Anonymous No.5194240]

>>5194230
You will see it someday, anon! Don't lose hope. There's always some crab in all vent threads that wants to be an asshole to everyone
You may not see it immediately, but one day, you're going to see a mountain or whatever you want, because you're a good person and a hard worker. We're gonna make it

[Anonymous No.5194246]

>>5194240
^____________^

thanks!

[Anonymous No.5194267]

>>5194202
>Internet access and modern tech isn't all that, I bet if it was taken away from me I probably wouldn't even notice
>Go to prison
>Most technologically advanced thing you're allowed is a watch
>Which no one wears anyway because it just reminds you of how slow time is going

Bros, stay away from the prisons if you're some kind of technology fiend. You won't survive. This is most pertinent to the zoomers who've only ever grown up with it and know no other. You've been warned.

[Anonymous No.5194307]

>>5194267
I went to jail once for a day. I cried a lot when they let me go. I couldn't imagine staying for more than that let alone prison. Prison and zoomers do not mix.

[Anonymous No.5194315]

>>5194206
Why you gotta be like this

[Anonymous No.5194345]

I regret interacting with you. I didn't think you'd be this fucking neurotic when I unfollowed you.

[Anonymous No.5194352]

>>5194345
I regret falling in love with you. You broke my heart over and over.

[Anonymous No.5194361]

But I don’t regret meeting you.

[Anonymous No.5194455]

>>5194217
I could never draw like them

[Anonymous No.5194471]

:)

[Anonymous No.5194529]

>>5192700

Just fuck your boss. Dont you get it? Shes being tsun, but deep down she wants gaijin penis. LOTS of gaijin penis.

[Anonymous No.5194594]

>>5194529
>will never have a tsun nipponese female boss who dangles jobs over my head

Life is so unfair.

[Anonymous No.5194601]

Are you.
Still there?
Do you want.
To say.
Something else...?

[Anonymous No.5194698]

>Hmm yes time to draw
>FloatingHeadOnBlankCanvas43.jpg
>another sucessful day as an artist

[Anonymous No.5194725]

>>5193928
just do a really tan character, but don't mention anything about race

[Anonymous No.5194729]

>>5194698
...I just drew another day like this

[Anonymous No.5194737]

>>5193928
why do you need black people in the first place?

[Anonymous No.5194856]

I sure am glad I did still life drawing in college.

[Anonymous No.5194920]

>>5194698
Me too

[Anonymous No.5196766]

>>5194737
.. y- you mean in stories, right?

[Anonymous No.5196904]

>>5196766
I also mean your love life.