/BEG/ Thread

[Anonymous No.5168786]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the Drawthread with fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

Sticky document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.
Previous thread:
>>5164777

[Anonymous No.5168814]

LINEWORK:
Should I be using the 'real G-Pen' pen in Clip Studio Paint that fluctuates in width depending on pen pressure or should I use a pen that maintains the same width regardless of pressure and just manually size it up and down as needed? I see some people using the anime swoosh pen look and some people with the same style using a regular uniform line size for the outline and varying line sizes in details and inner lines, all of them having a steady width. This is confusing the fuck out of me.

[Anonymous No.5168824]

>>5168814
Wut? Just turn on size jitter for all pens. Real g pen is only different with it having a texture

[Anonymous No.5168827]

>>5168824
That's what I was asking, just couldn't think of the word. So size jitter ON for doing linework? Is there ever any reason to turn it off for line work? Seems like the result would be a lot more smooth and consistent, but maybe lack character.

[Anonymous No.5168847]

>>5168827
Turn it off if you don't want various line weight. I'm pretty sure mangaka use gpens when traditional because they do offer a wider range of line weight compared to normal pens. Personally pens without size jitter feels bad to me

[Anonymous No.5168860]

>>5168847
Yeah I think I just need to practice. I do like being able to swoop a big thick line in that tapers into a thin one but as a result some of my lines get all thick or thin in random places unintentionally. I guess it'll come with time.

[Anonymous No.5168861]

[Anonymous No.5168867]

Posted this in the last thread, but does anyone have tips for practicing drawing from observation? I've been doing the poses from Bargue (in like an hour and not with sight-size, which I know is incorrect), and I spend a bunch of time autistically measuring everything, but I can never get it to be a perfect match. Do I just need to experiment with blocking out big shapes and using sighting techniques until I discover a good process, or what?

[Anonymous No.5168901]

>>5168867
>Draw thing measuring only with your eyes.
>It's gonna be fuckt up.
>What's fucked up?
>Draw thing one more time/erase mistakes and observe more carefuly. Correct the fucked up part.
>Well done. Next thing.

Blocking shapes helps.
Mileage. Correct stuff and be cautious but don't be autistic perfecting sketches.

[Anonymous No.5168952]

This is a dwarf knight. It's the first painting I've done that didn't make me want to kill myself, but I at least feel like I've finally learned a little and have made some improvements. What should I work on? I feel like it lacks texture, completely and I don't know what to do. I also feel like most of the shapes are totally lost and the lighting is probably really bad/wrong.

[Anonymous No.5168953]

>>5168786
posted this in last thread but it got archived

[Anonymous No.5168957]

how could I improve the shoulders/booba? I'm on week 1 of the art & science of drawing, I didn't start the figure drawing lesson yet

[Anonymous No.5168962]

>>5168952
This looks really awesome anon, good job.

[Anonymous No.5168965]

I completely lack creativity and used to use the draw threads as a way to practice but since they keep getting the same requests spammed over and over I've been avoiding them for a long time. What do other begs use as a way to get a subject to draw real quickly?

[Anonymous No.5168974]

>>5168957
i think you should focus on the torso first since its too long and makes the arms look short by comparison

[Anonymous No.5168976]

>>5168901
Yeah, I'll try laying down lines just judging with my eyes first, and then only use comparative measurement / angle-sighting to check how close I am. Ty

[Anonymous No.5168979]

>>5168861
my beg eyes can't see anything wrong with it pretty solid I think.

[Anonymous No.5169008]

>>5168965
I go to my expression folder choose something random and either choose some character from waifu drawthread or one from some show I watched and then draw said character with said expression. currently I am focusing on faces because it is my worse subject.

[Anonymous No.5169026]

Any better or no?

[Anonymous No.5169031]

>>5169026
*Hands and feet are massive on purpose.

[Anonymous No.5169043]

first real portraiture study, looking for some headers
im trying to not just copy the face but recognize the landmarks and muscles/fat im familiar with and thus place them accordingly rather than simply eye-guessing, but i can tell I fucked up in a lot of ways. i feel like i wont really be learning anything if i simply copy pictures, so whats the best way to go about it?
sorry about the light lines btw, my pencil strokes reek of no confidence

[Anonymous No.5169047]

>>5169026
i can see the delts, pecs and clavicle are all still wrong

[Anonymous No.5169050]

How shit can perspective get before people start to notice ?
I've been studying that stuff for a week and while I think I'm starting to get it, it's just extremely boring to do it properly.
Do I have to draw the diagrams and such every time or is it one of the things I can just half ass without anyone noticing because everyone else does it and the viewer doesn't care about it the way they do anatomy or faces ?

[Anonymous No.5169064]

>>5169047
?

[Anonymous No.5169075]

>>5169064
Ignore crabs.

[Anonymous No.5169081]

>>5168965
I just take the dumb requests anyway, it's still more fun than grinding poses for no reason.
Anons ask for so much porn that half of them are just practicing gesture and adding an anime face on it when you're done.

[Anonymous No.5169085]

>>5169064
Ignore the critique.

[Anonymous No.5169092]

>>5169085
Still confused...

[Anonymous No.5169107]

>>5169085
Still confused... Are you ”critiquing” my eraser marks?

[Anonymous No.5169115]

>>5169075
>>5169085
you guys arent helpful at all, the torso is fundamentally flawed
heres a quick redline attempt, if youre doubting me go look up an anatomy diagram to see how muscles interlock with one another

[Anonymous No.5169131]

>>5169115
If you have seen my old drawing. I've clearly erased most of it. What's left are just eraser marks. I haven't been given a chance to redraw the section you've redline.

That's why I'm so confused.

[Anonymous No.5169135]

>>5169115
If you have seen my old drawing. I've clearly erased most of it. What's left are just eraser marks. I haven't been given a chance to redraw the section you've redline.

What's being "critiqued" technically isn't there anymore. That's why I'm so confused.

[Anonymous No.5169143]

>>5169131
even with the absense of the torso details you still made major oversights in how the the deltoids insert into the arm with the biceps, as well as your left and right delts being different sizes, so it was safe to assume the other errors would persist as well, which is why i made the redline

[Anonymous No.5169149]

>>5169143
You're fucking pathetic, bro.

[Anonymous No.5169154]

>>5169149
ok
dont ask for critique if you're gonna lash out like this

[Anonymous No.5169165]

>>5169154
He's/She's not me.

[Anonymous No.5169175]

>>5169154
It was him

[Anonymous No.5169201]

>>5168953
I'm kinda bad at painting, but take a look at this overpaint I did.
Define more your forms or it will look bland and boring.
You can put the edit over your original drawing in your drawing software, then hide and show the layer to see the changes.
Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.5169235]

>>5168571
I worked on this today, i think i fucked up somewhere along the way... so i'm afraid to continue. any tips on the right arm area? any idea what the armpit boob would look like there?

[Anonymous No.5169250]

alright, how deeply am i contracted the beg virus? does it look curable?

[Anonymous No.5169280]

>>5169175
Not sure if you're joking but I do have an update. Well...?

[Anonymous No.5169283]

[Anonymous No.5169294]

>>5168786
what do i do, pls

[Anonymous No.5169295]

>>5169235
Nice but make sure you're using reference anon, you'll know how to go about drawing that area if you do work from ref and it'll help you learn
>>5169250
Anyone's beg skill is curable, just keep drawing
>>5169283
Did you attempt to construct before drawing the contours or is that your first pass of the drawing

[Anonymous No.5169313]

If you trace something then try to draw it from memory, you'll be surprised by the results.

I discovered this, today.

[Anonymous No.5169328]

>>5169313
Post em

[Anonymous No.5169331]

https://www.instagram.com/__l.0.o.o.0.l__/?hl=tr

is this talent?

[Anonymous No.5169333]

>>5169280
thats a lot better, nice job

[Anonymous No.5169344]

came here to get bullied again

[Anonymous No.5169361]

>>5169201
Thanks for the advice anon! I'm gonna be working more on this for now

[Anonymous No.5169402]

im gay

[Anonymous No.5169406]

>>5169344
>>5169402
Have you learned anything new since you posted a few months ago

[Anonymous No.5169477]

please critic

[Anonymous No.5169484]

please critic

[Anonymous No.5169487]

>>5169484
Have you never seen nipples with large aerolas before

[Anonymous No.5169492]

>>5169484
looks like a really bad trace

[Anonymous No.5169497]

Can the anon who critiqued my sketch last time or someone else who knows anatomy critique my corrections? Please ignore the feet and head. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.5169498]

[Anonymous No.5169523]

would you call these /beg/ still?

[Anonymous No.5169529]

Can someone help me make the other eye? Like I just can't fucking do it, I dont know what's my problem, everytime it looks retarded. Please just, idk, help me.

[Anonymous No.5169533]

>>5169529
if you cant rotate the first eye you clearly have no sense of form and can't view the head in 3 dimensions
i recommend some fundies

[Anonymous No.5169536]

>>5169529

[Anonymous No.5169544]

>>5169533
The thing is everytime it looks flat, maybe it's just an impression i don't know man

[Anonymous No.5169551]

>>5169529
Instead of saying you cant do us why didnt you show us your attempts and say you were having difficulty having it appear proper.

[Anonymous No.5169555]

>>5169523
They look like basic figure studies. Try making a finished drawing using your imagination so people can give you a better assessment.

[Anonymous No.5169561]

>>5169536
kek

[Anonymous No.5169566]

I can't for the life of me understand how people do shit like broken implied lines and varied line pressure. Are there videos for this? I know about holding the pen at a 90 degree angle to the papaer and drawing from the shoulder, but how should I grip it and apply pressure? It's frustrating that google keeps giving me garbage when I try to find more on this.

[Anonymous No.5169567]

>>5169523
Do you have any completed, full colored artwork?

[Anonymous No.5169569]

>>5169555
well, they are. maybe someday Il'll finish something. you didn't critique anything though.

>>5169567
no

[Anonymous No.5169570]

>>5169569
Well there's not much to critique honestly but that just means you're ready to finish a drawing. I believe in you, anon. You can do this.

[Anonymous No.5169576]

first concept design
shape language is kind of lacking, since i was relying on a glock body

[Anonymous No.5169577]

>>5169570
yeah I know, but honestly I'm kind of scared doing anything bigger.

[Anonymous No.5169578]

>>5169569
>no
Lol

[Anonymous No.5169580]

>>5169529
Think about the eye you just made as a 3D shape. It follows a vanishing point different from the other eye, but at the same time it's a sphere partially occluded by the eyelid so other parts of it are being revealed as it rotates. A good place to start with building the socket would be to think of how it vertically descends from the brow and how it pulls back and horizantally towards the ear.

[Anonymous No.5169582]

[Anonymous No.5169583]

>>5169578
what can I say, my priorities are drawing right now, I don't give a shit about colour desu.

[Anonymous No.5169585]

>>5169577
I understand it's scary but there really is nothing to be scared of. Your figure studies already look good and that just means you're more than ready to move to the next step. Doesn't have to be a drastic leap but at least move forward even just a bit.

[Anonymous No.5169586]

>>5169583
ngmi

[Anonymous No.5169587]

>>5169583
Do you have any completed inked line art then?

[Anonymous No.5169590]

>>5169529

[Anonymous No.5169591]

I asked in /salt/ but the threads about to die and no response, so ill ask the place I was born in

What are some flaws in this piece that I can improve upon?
From my own eyes:
>torso/hip twist and anatomy
>hair (wet hair, drooping of the bangs)
>colour composition/choices
>environment/perspective
Tried doing something besides black lining everything -> wand tool fill, tried to use colours and values to represent lines and only using lines when absolutely necessary (like on inner lines) I like how it looks compared to what I normally do but I need to work on it more. Still new but I dont want to use that as an excuse

Been mostly grinding 2-3p perspective, still life of forms (geometric shapes in black and white stuff), and figures daily. Anything else I should add?

Am I still /beg/? This is an imagination piece except for hands and character ref. I still feel /beg/ but I dont know. Not really an important question as I dont mind if I'm still /beg/ but just curious

[Anonymous No.5169594]

>>5169497
Can you show me how you drew out that far leg connected to the pelvis?

[Anonymous No.5169595]

>>5169591
you have shadows facing the camera but the character has a spotlight on them

[Anonymous No.5169597]

>>5169250
This has potential. I think that the corner of the helmet and chin throws it off a bit. But overall solid job on paper

[Anonymous No.5169600]

>>5169591
Values are bad

[Anonymous No.5169601]

>>5169587
sorry, no. -i have piece of shit old drawings I could dig up..

>>5169585
cheers, I appreciate it. I can draw I feel like, but I don't know how to render desu.

>>5169586
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.5169604]

>>5169601
>sorry, no.
Why tf you asking if your work is beg if you dont got a single polished work to your name? It's like selling an unfinished game asking if you're a good developer
=/ !

[Anonymous No.5169605]

>>5169600
>>5169595
So more still lifes?

[Anonymous No.5169608]

Finally got to work on something for a straight hour, first time in a month. Drew too small and on bad paper.

[Anonymous No.5169616]

>>5169604
I feel like figures/gestures are posted here all the time

[Anonymous No.5169619]

>>5169605
Let me rephrase that better
>>5169595
I noticed I keep fucking up light. I haven't been able to subconscious do it. If I'm not actively thinking about i mess it up often. So I need to work on that more
>>5169600
Which specifics values are bad? The entire image, the background, or the character?
So should I focus on doing more still lives and some light studies? Study other art for knowledge of better values?

[Anonymous No.5169627]

>>5169619
you are doing very good but maybe post your work with that critique.

[Anonymous No.5169633]

>>5169627
I dont understand. I'm responding to the critique I received from my midna picture, not giving it

[Anonymous No.5169635]

Please, how the fuck do I vary line weight? It's driving me insane

[Anonymous No.5169650]

If I use my fucking shoulder to move the stroke then what do I use to apply pressure?

[Anonymous No.5169651]

Hello again beg
Working hard I hope. Today I only finished coloring my drawing and then started taking notes while watching marshal vandruffs 1994 lecture on perspective. It seems very insightful so far, I hope I can put what I learn into practice effectively after enough practice

[Anonymous No.5169653]

>>5169635
You need to FEEL the form first.

[Anonymous No.5169655]

Really cool how my arm just slips at the start of every god damn stroke

[Anonymous No.5169656]

>>5169653
Off topic shitpost you fucking ape.Proko has nothing on this. Peter has nothing. Drawabox nothing. Google just shills fucking pinterest trash because they're fucking scum

[Anonymous No.5169690]

I keep getting worse and worse worse and worse worse and worse worse and worse worse and worse to the point where I can't even get past this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk.. I'm tired of fucking living

[Anonymous No.5169694]

>>5169690
You aren't getting worse unless you have a mental illness. Stop being a drama queen.

[Anonymous No.5169712]

>>5169694
YEs I do have a mental illness and I'm clearly a fucking retard. Some people are fucknig defective

[Anonymous No.5169721]

Opinions ?

[Anonymous No.5169722]

>>5169656
Literally what? You just rambled like a fucking schizo and I am telling you that line weight is dependent on the form and FEELING the form as well as light sources.

[Anonymous No.5169730]

>>5169712
Post your work and we shall see.

[Anonymous No.5169733]

>>5169650
The grip on your fingers and partially your biceps to suport said grip

[Anonymous No.5169734]

>>5169635

[Anonymous No.5169737]

>>5169651
OKAY BUT WHERE'S THE PENIS

[Anonymous No.5169744]

>>5169594
I didn't draw it out, and in retrospect it looks like ass. Thank you for pointing that out my dude

[Anonymous No.5169749]

>>5169730
Hilarious right? REally fucking funny how bad I am. I've been doing this nonstop I've been reading the shit over and over. You already know I'm a decaying mentally ill retard. So go ahead and tell me to fucking hang myself.

[Anonymous No.5169752]

>>5169749
I wasn't going to make fun of you. Rather I was going to suggest that maybe you take a few days off since it seems like you're burnt out.

[Anonymous No.5169753]

>>5169737
Girls don't have penis anon

[Anonymous No.5169754]

>>5169749
how the fuck are we supposed to judge capability based on a few lines and boxes

[Anonymous No.5169762]

Does anyone know a good method for actually developing a structured study plan? My primary goal is figure drawing and I feel like I need some kind of academic schedule to keep me on track. I need to get a daily checklist of "draw x number of y" for a few different things so I can have some focus, and maybe once I've completed one group of study I move onto a new study plan.

Right now I don't know what's valuable to practice and when I should move on from one thing, and I keep jumping around between methods and exercises which screws me up. This uncertainty of what's valuable leaves me unconfident in actually developing a study plan, and it kinda just feels like I've been flailing around for a while. This flailing makes what I know kinda lopsided and fluctuate, it's like I'll get better at one thing and then worse at another since the methods Im constantly switching between neglect something else.

plz help.

[Anonymous No.5169766]

>>5169754
Because even though I've done the Drawabox assignments, I still can't even pass the first hurdle. It's a legitimate learning disability

[Anonymous No.5169767]

>>5169762
It's so simple really, just follow a course. And then listen to the instructor, and then draw the exercises, that's it.

[Anonymous No.5169772]

>>5169762
You're typing too much
Draw 6-8 hours a day, follow courses and DO the work, take breaks and sleep good. Draw what you want for fun and draw what you need to improve
Thats it. You have no right to complain if you dont do this

[Anonymous No.5169773]

>>5169762
1. Figure drawing
2. Proportions
3. Anatomy
4. Lighting and rendering
5. ???
6. Profit!

[Anonymous No.5169779]

>>5169767
>>5169772
>>5169773
are there any online courses you guys would recommend?

[Anonymous No.5169783]

>>5169779
A lot of books and videos are in the OP. Too much Youtube will just lead you into paywalled garbage though.

[Anonymous No.5169787]

>>5169749
you'll get better with motor function
>>5169779
mega link anon

[Anonymous No.5169793]

>>5169787
Sorry for going on this schizo rant. It's just frustrating to feel like I'm capable of even baby steps of progress as far as linework, and then I just abruptly start regressing to the point where it feels like my arms aren't working anymore.

[Anonymous No.5169834]

I made this to try and get used to a new tablet I got

[Anonymous No.5169846]

>>5169793
go actually draw something anon like humans and shit

[Anonymous No.5169852]

First color study

[Anonymous No.5169856]

wtf i forgot how to draw straight lines

[Anonymous No.5169864]

i retard that only draws people for the past few months, where do you find references to study backgrounds

[Anonymous No.5169868]

>>5169852
>color study
>picked a few colors, shifted the sliders a bit and arranged them in a landscape shape
you're better than this anon

[Anonymous No.5169869]

>>5169026
looks good to me

[Anonymous No.5169883]

I can't draw faces

[Anonymous No.5169904]

tried to ink something for the first time today. Fucked it up but learned a lot. I learned that I should practice hatching with pens and that I have no idea where any core muscles are at all

[Anonymous No.5169908]

>>5169883
I know your feeling, I'm trying to draw this (pic related) but it doesn't look right, especially the ear and the hand. welp, time to use a reference.

[Anonymous No.5169910]

Just started drawing about 2 months now, bought some fine tip pens and love them.

Just been drawing mountains, I need to start taking basic tutorial classes, any idea on good ones?

[Anonymous No.5169911]

>>5169910

[Anonymous No.5169921]

>>5169910
Dynamic sketching for sure. Peter Han is a really good teacher. Also watch Feng Zhu’s sketching tutorial.

[Anonymous No.5169947]

>>5169921
I just copied alot of other mountain sketches off Google to try and learn. Now trying to imagine my own ideas.

I could also start to "see" how I needed to shade the mountain on some of them, i find it hard to imagine sometimes though.
Thanks I will check them out.

[Anonymous No.5169966]

>>5169846
I can't read angles and scale properly. I can't do the curves correctly. I can't plot out the most basic perspective correctly. I struggle too much with the ba fuck it fuck it fuckit fuck it god

[Anonymous No.5169970]

And i'm supposed to work out all of this other shit too i

[Anonymous No.5169974]

>>5169970
It sounds to me like you don’t enjoy the process of mark making. IMO the satisfaction of the process itself is the only reason I’ve gotten any level of skill

[Anonymous No.5169977]

>>5169974
You're mistaking me. I'm sayoing I'm so inept I can't even make the marks correctly. None of this s about ernojyment

[Anonymous No.5169981]

>>5169908
Forgot to post my question. what is the best way to study extreme angles? pic related, it is so hard to find references.

[Anonymous No.5169985]

>>5169981
Depends on the pose, but I do the pose in the mirror and then memorize what it looks like.

[Anonymous No.5169990]

>>5169868
How else do you do a color study lol

[Anonymous No.5169998]

>>5169856
I'm a beginner but those lines look pretty straight to me.

[Anonymous No.5170003]

Today's doodles

[Anonymous No.5170009]

>>5169985
wait, this is genius.

[Anonymous No.5170012]

I should fucking die

[Anonymous No.5170013]

>>5170003
Tomorrow's doodles should look something like this. You can do this anon. I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.5170017]

>>5169904
The ability to build up tone with pencils single handedly held me back for so long. I think drawing with pens really teaches you how to build forms using a more limited toolset that will extend to later pencil drawings and paintings.

[Anonymous No.5170056]

I'm trying to learn how to paint digitally. I like how the stuff in shadow looks but how do I do detail's in light?

[Anonymous No.5170062]

>>5170056
I think a good place to start is 2 values in light, 3 values in dark.

Light:
midtone
highlight

dark:
core shadow
reflected light shadow
occlusion shadow

This should be more than enough while remaining simple. Once you put in highlights it should look a lot more convincing.

[Anonymous No.5170068]

>>5170062
I was kinda hoping I could simplify by just using three tones but is that a bad idea? It's my first time trying to do real studies and I didn't wanna overwhelm my self early on

[Anonymous No.5170075]

>>5170056
Based Jocko

[Anonymous No.5170079]

>>5170068
I'm not sure that you can do much more than you've already done with 3 values. A few more will allow you to better define the forms, but you're already on the right track.

[Anonymous No.5170088]

Can you guys please explain to me how I practice and improve drawing?
I really don't know.
Is it something to do with the fundamentals? How do i practice them?

[Anonymous No.5170095]

>>5170088
Pick an artist you like, try and emulate what you like about their style. You will make mistakes, over and over and over and over until you're sick of drawing. The secret is to pick yourself up and dust yourself off and keep practicing. That's how you git gud.

[Anonymous No.5170098]

>>5170088
What I tried, no joke, draw a thing, can you coom to it? no? it is bad, try again, yes? well done, into the next one. Also, villpu is working for me.

[Anonymous No.5170103]

>>5170095
So just copying artists?
Shouldn't i practice drawing bodies or something else?
Or is copying other sufficient?

[Anonymous No.5170109]

>>5170103
It's not a strict formula. Some people can get by with just copying artists while others need the strict guidelines set by a program. The important part is you keep at it and don't lose hope. Find out what works for you and lose what doesn't and keep at it.

[Anonymous No.5170153]

>>5170103
you want to do it all. copying from artists, do life drawing, draw from imagination. but more importantly, just draw.

[Anonymous No.5170158]

>>5169904
you should do more figure drawings, those legs and arms are way to short

[Anonymous No.5170167]

Sick of fucking boxes and still lifes and perspective grids; I just wanna copy my anime art cause at least I enjoy that enough to do it whereas if I grind all the boring shit I just get burnt out hard

[Anonymous No.5170169]

i honestly did my best with this one

What do you think

[Anonymous No.5170202]

>>5169608
Not /beg/, fuck off

[Anonymous No.5170207]

>>5170169
Veins look artificial, they're too straight

[Anonymous No.5170214]

>>5170169
Looks like you tried to give him Bridgman chunkiness but sort of failed. It’s not bad but the muscles look like padding glued on to a skinny arm. You need to learn muscle insertions and shit, most noticeably at the wrists so you see what I mean

[Anonymous No.5170218]

i still don' t really understand 'gesture'. i have to keep the flow of a pose? but i feel like that throws off my ability to anatomy and proportion correctly. at the same time if i focus on anatomy and proportions it screws up whatever energy the pose had.

I feel like either way when i draw a decent looking pose, or at least an acceptable one, everything good about it goes out the window when I try to apply clothes to it.

[Anonymous No.5170219]

Had some more time to work on this. Getting there.

The face looks all kinds of fucked though. Like his mask is pealing off.

[Anonymous No.5170221]

>>5169529
rate my attempt

[Anonymous No.5170233]

>>5170221
should a little bit smaller?

[Anonymous No.5170265]

>>5169576
If you design things, do at least some research on how they work. This design barely makes any sense at all.

[Anonymous No.5170268]

>>5170218
Draw a stick man doing a funky pose and then add mass. Once you get these to a point where they look like real people skip the stick man entirely and just try to draw the whole pose in as few likes as possible. This is gesture. Congrats you get it now

[Anonymous No.5170272]

>>5170221

[Anonymous No.5170289]

>>5169566
>I can't for the life of me understand how people do shit like broken implied lines and varied line pressure.
example? which pen are you using?

[Anonymous No.5170300]

>>5168786
my first ever attempt at drawing anything seriously. Is it decent? I literally know nothing about drawing, I just felt like doing it. I made this with a regular pencil and eraser.

[Anonymous No.5170305]

>>5169834
first tablet or a different tablet? looks like you are petting the lines, aside from that they look fine

[Anonymous No.5170314]

>>5169590
Haha funny because he has the piggy nose hahaha so fucking funny kek my friend! Shalom to you!

[Anonymous No.5170325]

wow ive never had a piece go so well so far in life. i can honestly say im actually starting to like my own art now. just ranting. still a wip

[Anonymous No.5170329]

>>5170169
not sure about the forearms, the rest is pretty good

[Anonymous No.5170342]

>>5170202

Yes it is, don't try to tell people what's /beg/ if you're /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5170353]

>>5168786

I made some animation, trying to mix together traditional and 3D stuff. What do you think?
(turn on eng sub)

https://youtu.be/sEHzZ9VrOvg

[Anonymous No.5170362]

[Anonymous No.5170364]

>>5170305
first tablet, yes
what do you mean petting?

[Anonymous No.5170366]

[Anonymous No.5170368]

Pain

[Anonymous No.5170373]

>>5169529

[Anonymous No.5170405]

tell me how shit it is
im going through that phase where my brain cant tell whats wrong but i can feel that its fucked

[Anonymous No.5170422]

>>5170405
the perspective on the arms ain't right chief

[Anonymous No.5170507]

>>5170353
That was pretty cool anon.

[Anonymous No.5170537]

I'm having trouble making the folds on drapery and clothes etc. from imagination. I do know the different types of folds, I just can't seem to apply that knowledge. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.5170545]

>>5170537
You clearly dont know the different types of folds then. Practice WITH reference.

[Anonymous No.5170554]

>>5169966
Not him, but calm down, anon, or at least channel your anger into industriousness. There are always some days when it seems to be impossible to nail it, especially during your baby steps. As a training wheels for straight lines and cubes take a thicker fineliner or even fine marker and then go thinner when you feel confident. Some angles are more comfortable for straight lines than others, look for them and rotate paper to evade uncomfortable ones. Curves are easier to draw when your hand is on their "in" side. You can use ruler at first to draw cubes, that would be a good exercise to learn to feel angles and perspective.
But actually.. nevermind. There are people who do everything and there are people who do nothing. For now, you're good for nothing. Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.5170609]

I'm trying to do the texture analysis for drawabox and I'm kinda struggling. (pic related) is supposed to be boulders, there are tons of pits and shadows in them but I'm having a hard time deciding which are important, how to properly convey them, and not make it look like a total mess with too much detail

[Anonymous No.5170618]

>be part of a community or group where your desired behavior is the norm
is /ic/ a good community for this?

[Anonymous No.5170623]

>>5170364
making one line with small multiple strokes, I guess the right term is chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.5170630]

>>5170623
Ah yes, I did that because I couldn't get a good dark line with a single stroke (I'm not used to pen pressure) so I had to "pet the line" a few times

[Anonymous No.5170636]

>>5170618
>where your desired behavior is the norm
What does this even mean

[Anonymous No.5170639]

Are there people that cant learn to draw? I've done an exercise for a while now, and I'm not improving. I think I might be too smooth brained for drawing.

[Anonymous No.5170644]

>>5170537
>I do know the different types of folds

[Anonymous No.5170646]

>>5170644
this is such a good gif lol

[Anonymous No.5170652]

thoughts?
I assume over time I will improve but first try
1. rockface
2. bearded dragon scales (became too detailed and gave up the last part)
3. boulders stacked

[Anonymous No.5170657]

>>5170636
perhaps I worded it badly, I am paraphrasing atomic habits, basically he makes a point that if you join a group where everyone does x you are more likely to do x too.

but would it work here given that it is an anonymous community and can we say that drawing is the norm here?

[Anonymous No.5170658]

>>5170639
>for a while
If you're talking a few hours that's nothing. Keep going.
If you're talking a month or 2 then you need to reread whatever exercise you're doing and try to absorb the information better.
Constantly practice what you've learned and come back to the study when you run into issues. That way you'll at least have some questions that the exercise hopefully answers.

[Anonymous No.5170660]

>>5170658
Sorry. What I meant was five years.

[Anonymous No.5170666]

What can I do to improve my imagination heads?

[Anonymous No.5170667]

What's the worst way to learn to draw?

[Anonymous No.5170668]

>>5170660
If you've been drawing for that long and think you haven't improved look back at your older drawings.
If you really don't see an improvement then I have no idea what you spent those 5 years drawing.

[Anonymous No.5170669]

>>5170667
Not drawing and asking stupid questions on 4chan

[Anonymous No.5170670]

>>5170666
Practice drawing something other than Shrek.

[Anonymous No.5170674]

>>5170670
But I like goblins...

[Anonymous No.5170677]

>>5170668

thats not me. And thanks, I feel like there is no sense of progression, so I keep doubting what I do has any effect on my progress. I keep switching method to try a new way

[Anonymous No.5170678]

>>5170657
I like the saying "you are the average of the people you surround yourself with" more
I dont think this has to apply to 4chan unless you want it to. This board is filled with anonymity so you don't truly know the people around you here, and you can just close the tab and have no connection to it.
Memes aside of course drawing is the norm here, I don't understand the point in asking this. Quitting is also the norm here, complaining, shitposting etc

[Anonymous No.5170689]

Does anyone have the google doc of what brands/fandoms do takedowns on places like redbubble?

[Anonymous No.5170696]

>>5170678
>Memes aside of course drawing is the norm here, I don't understand the point in asking this
I mean can you really not see why someone could think that most people here don't draw? wouldn't that be at least a honest mistake to make?

[Anonymous No.5170697]

Guess I’m done with this sketch
>>5170666
You need to keep in mind that if you are not drawing from reference, you are not taking in information to expand your visual library. You need to draw a lot of heads and faces from reference to know how to do better from imagination

[Anonymous No.5170701]

>>5170696
Whether people here draw often or not doesnt affect me so I'm not over thinking it

[Anonymous No.5170703]

>>5170697
I am not sure but I think that the left arm is a little too small

[Anonymous No.5170707]

>>5170666
satan, I thing you are playing too much oblivion

[Anonymous No.5170713]

>>5170703
Looks like it
I'll fix when I'm done making oatmeal

[Anonymous No.5170717]

>>5170697
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.5170719]

>>5170697
Thanks, I try to do a portrait every 2 days or so to help build it up along with all the other shit I do.
>>5170707
>>5170670
>Faces are ugly
This is gonna sound dumb but is there some way to study what is beautiful in a face? Because I have no fucking clue what makes a face ugly unless its horribly exaggerated.

[Anonymous No.5170723]

I’ll leave it at this

[Anonymous No.5170726]

>>5170719
>there some way to study what is beautiful in a face?
proportions?

[Anonymous No.5170740]

>>5170723
arm and leg in the left are too short ugh...

[Anonymous No.5170746]

>>5170719
Honestly, if you just studied a little bit of nose structure and stopped drawing troll noses, you'd be doing better. like there are other "goblin noses" that are possible.

[Anonymous No.5170766]

>>5169529
Is this okay? I can't say if it's anatomically correct since I just draw by intuition kek. Probably worth adjusting it a bit more

[Anonymous No.5170797]

>>5170746
Sounds like a plan. Ill do some nose studies

[Anonymous No.5170805]

>>5169576
I like it as a reality-suspending fantasy design but it seems like you're going for some kind of grounding in reality, in which i could see people being bothered by the way this works. it's a good visual though, i'd say

[Anonymous No.5170807]

>>5170325
looks good!

[Anonymous No.5170825]

>>5169280
Are you a coom artist?

[Anonymous No.5170827]

>>5170766

[Anonymous No.5170840]

>>5170827
Is the one with the blown out jaw supposed to look better, because it "conveys perspective?"

[Anonymous No.5170844]

>>5170840
>Blown out jaw
What?

[Anonymous No.5170845]

>>5169529
I fucked it up too, but I think it's probably too cartoony to really matter anyway

[Anonymous No.5170857]

>>5170844
look at how the angle of the back of the jaw becomes almost horizontal. also the entire cranium needs to be redrawn because now the forehead is out of whack.

the fix created way more problems than it solved.

[Anonymous No.5170866]

>>5170845
Eyes are too close together

>>5170827
I like your version but the alignment feels a bit off. I think flipping shows it better. It doesn't really fit with the orientation of the ear I think

[Anonymous No.5170869]

>>5170857
Sure bud take it or leave it. I tried to help you, seeing that you couldn’t solve it nearly 18 hours later

[Anonymous No.5170871]

Anytime I make anything ‘bold and brash’, I need to post it here

[Anonymous No.5170874]

>>5170869
I'm not the guy who was struggling w/ it. I don't think the person you corrected was, either.

[Anonymous No.5170881]

found this on a discord server. harsh criticism is discouraged. Tell me what you think, /beg/

[Anonymous No.5170887]

>>5170881
looks good bro :)

[Anonymous No.5170889]

>>5170881
>found this on a discord server
aright
>hard critic is discouraged
what is this your piece? anyways needs the basic fundamentals, the anon who's only doing lines and boxes is way ahead of that guy

[Anonymous No.5170890]

>>5170881
sorry i meant that harsh criticism on the SERVER is discouraged

[Anonymous No.5170891]

>>5170881
>found this on a discord sever
So that's not yours, but clearly a child's artwork and you're posting it here to have people laugh

[Anonymous No.5170895]

>>5170881
There's not much to say.

Maybe one of the feet is a bit smaller than the other, to nitpick.

[Anonymous No.5170908]

>>5170874
Yeah I'm >>5170766. I'm not the person who made the picture, I just edited it.

[Anonymous No.5170932]

>>5170890
what did the discord server say like >>5170887 ?

[Anonymous No.5170970]

Daily portrait.
I still can't figure out if those look bad because I just lack practice or because I just didn't understand what the tutorials were saying.
I guess I'll just hit the books again in a week or two anyway, that can't hurt.

[Anonymous No.5170975]

>>5170970
did you try construction or just eyeballing it?

[Anonymous No.5170979]

first time trying to do some texture shit on 3d (drawabox hw)

[Anonymous No.5170982]

>>5170970
My advice would be to flip your eyes quickly between your drawing and the photo. You will see your mistakes hopefully and next time you are drawing, do the same flipping thing while you draw to see the relations of the features better and draw them correcty.

[Anonymous No.5170986]

>>5170975
I'm trying construction for the most part. I don't do every plane of the face but I have a dozen shapes in there.

[Anonymous No.5170994]

First time figure drawing, feedback if possible please!

[Anonymous No.5171000]

>>5170986
I suggest being more patient, then. Your head and the reference are at completely different angles, even. Take the time to make sure you've captured the reference in its most basic form before adding details like eyes and a mouth. Maybe do some rough constructions and then overlay them to the ref to see how close you are or aren't.
It also helps to know what's what on the face, so you aren't just guessing as you go along.
Granted I'm a /beg/ as well ( >>5169043
is my post) so take what I say with a grain of salt

[Anonymous No.5171007]

>>5170994
going good
still some look like stick figures due to straight lines and others have kinda parallel lines in the legs, try to avoid both of them, they are reducing the dynamism from the drawings

[Anonymous No.5171015]

>>5170013
>copied from a popular youtube video
>doodle

[Anonymous No.5171018]

tried doing the ambient occlusion thingy, on just a simple simpson, since I'm finding hard to wrap my mind around this
is this a good way to practice this?
should I be trying to separate occlusion shadows from direct shadows and then merging then later or I'm just falling for some meme?
any book or course that focuses on this in particular?

[Anonymous No.5171028]

>>5170013
sinix raptor template

[Anonymous No.5171038]

>>5171007
how do i represent a straight back without a straight line?

[Anonymous No.5171040]

>>5171038
you don't
you imply it

[Anonymous No.5171042]

>>5171018
that sounds more like a job for /3/, but have you tried checking Unity store assets or other easily available 3D models with included AO maps ?
You can probably just get stuff from Skyrim or Fallout 4 easily considering how many mods people managed to make.

[Anonymous No.5171044]

>>5171015
Mikeymegamega videos are my style

[Anonymous No.5171057]

>>5171007
the only info a straight spine is gonna convey is distance from head to pelvis. imo you should be looking for other things to study between those two points that swoop inward or outward.

but also, i think you're seeing straights where there shouldn't be straights. there's one drawing where the figure is squatting from the side profile. the back should not be straight, the neck shouldn't be coming straight upwards from the shoulders. maybe try drawing your straights lightly, and then studying whether there's actually a curve happening.

[Anonymous No.5171058]

>>5171038
this >>5171057 was meant for you. sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.5171066]

>>5171057
yeah im having a hard time visualizing the spine. In that particular one the reference had a straight back so i thought the line should be straight too.

[Anonymous No.5171075]

>>5171038
The line from head to pelvis isn't just for direction, you're supposed to follow either the spine or ribcage with it to help place them later

[Anonymous No.5171081]

>>5171075
Thanks!, nice cock btw

[Anonymous No.5171084]

[Anonymous No.5171085]

>>5171042
oh but I'm trying to do 2d drawings, I saw some people doing that (like in pic attached), and it kinda made sense, especially after I dived a little into light and shadow
maybe I've just phrased my questions in a weird way

[Anonymous No.5171086]

>>5171084
based

[Anonymous No.5171087]

>>5171085
That 3rd pic isn't really AO.

[Anonymous No.5171088]

>>5171084
I saw a painting that looked very similar to that thing in an art gallery the other day. You could probably make t-shirts or something if you colored it.

[Anonymous No.5171090]

>>5171084
I really like this (unironically) You should finish it and post it

[Anonymous No.5171103]

>>5171084
Soulful ngl desu

[Anonymous No.5171109]

>>5171085
Have you tried grabbing the layers and changing the key lighting one to see if it still works ?
I think they're just using the name AO in this case but that's actually just more detailed shadows that wouldn't work so well with another light angle.

[Anonymous No.5171110]

>>5171066
Yeah, I can see how you were reading a straight, there. There's a lot of things that give the illusion of just a straight column.

You can figure out the back by looking for clues to how the pelvis and ribcage are pointed. It looks like her pelvis is rotated forwards and her shoulders are compensating. Her neck is also coming out forwards, but it's hard to see because her head's tilted up and the back of her neck is obscured. The neutral position for the neck is pointed forwards, btw.

[Anonymous No.5171116]

>>5171109
Also, you probably could still use 3D models to see how it works.
I'd just use blender, place some stuff in it and turn the AO and texture maps on and off while moving the light source to see what impact it has.

[Anonymous No.5171127]

>>5171018
Looks like you dont even know what AO is

[Anonymous No.5171130]

>>5171085
what does AO, SS and rim mean

[Anonymous No.5171139]

>>5171085
I tried shading first in grey and then making a color multiply layer
but it just ends up looking like the charakter is dirty. I need to change the shadow and highlight color with an overlay layer.
If I have to do that, why not just paint it in color in the first place?

[Anonymous No.5171159]

>>5171139

You have to take the value of the colours into account while painting the greys. If you paint a yellow as a dark value for instance, it may look green. Red and green are mid greys, blue is darker, etc. If you deviate too far from the value range you may not get the colour you want. Might be a different problem, though, it's hard to tell without seeing your picture.

[Anonymous No.5171167]

>>5169721
very short necks

[Anonymous No.5171169]

Consensus on Eviston's art and science of drawing?

[Anonymous No.5171204]

>>5170169
His left arm looks longer than his right, might be because his shoulder seems to stick too far out and not adhering to the perspective. Left forearm muscle looks somewhat too triangular, right looks good aside from the middle muscle (triceps?) going to the elbow. As another guy pointed out, veins look unnatural. I also feel they are too prominent. Eyebrow expression is good, nose feels somewhat off. Chin is good, but lower lip lacks detail compared to nearby areas, and thus makes it look like his teeth instead of his lip.

[Anonymous No.5171218]

>>5170353
Fascinating! Keep doing these!

[Anonymous No.5171222]

>Try to shade
>End up shading too much and making it clash with the cartoony style
For a cartoony style like my flat color pumpkin man here, would you say one tone for skin, one tone for shade, and one tone for highlight is enough? I see other artists using 2-3 tones for different areas of shading and sometimes two highlights. When I try that it looks too busy, but when I try to just put one or two areas of 'dark shade' where I imagine they would be with the light source, it looks flat and unfinished. This isn't even scratching the surface of airbrush shadows or whatever, that's a whole nother headache, I'm still trying to figure out where to cel shade shadows. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.5171224]

>>5171084
Soul

[Anonymous No.5171227]

Does it looks alright?

[Anonymous No.5171234]

>>5171227
The way you draw bodies in contrast to the faces is always weird

[Anonymous No.5171235]

>>5171227
arm looks like its going to her side rather than out in front of her
don't be lazy on your posing boy

[Anonymous No.5171251]

>>5171234
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.5171260]

>>5171251
Looks like you're trying to draw bishoujo faces on shounen bodies

[Anonymous No.5171264]

>told to make sure to draw for fun inbetween studying
>too afraid to draw anything since i know im not done learning and it wont look the best it possibly can

[Anonymous No.5171281]

>>5171264
>You're only allowed to do somethimg if you're good at it
Stop being such a perfectionist cuck
Or draw characters/things you don't feel too passionate about, so the stakes are less, so to say, if it helps

[Anonymous No.5171288]

>>5168965
literally just draw characters from stuff I've watched recently.
i was watching redline earlier, if you wqnt a request try drawing sweet jp from it, he has a cool pompadour.

[Anonymous No.5171289]

>>5171260
I see, proning to tomboys ruins my art, but i can't help it, heh, but I also can't catch the balance between normal femael proportions and mucels, so may be it is a lack of anatomy knowlege.

[Anonymous No.5171295]

>>5171264
failing is good

[Anonymous No.5171305]

>Drawing coom
>Jack off
>Immediately lose the will to continue drawing coom or anything
>Delete the project file
How did it get to this?

[Anonymous No.5171310]

Why does this look terrible?

[Anonymous No.5171311]

>>5171260
In English, please.
>>5171264
You're going to put out dozens of subpar work until you get good. It's just going to take a lot longer if you refuse to try or finish things. For instance you aren't going to get used to your workflow and process if you don't follow it to the end. You'll get really good at sketching and lineart maybe but then suck ass at coloring and shading and effects because you always quit before then or don't start.

[Anonymous No.5171313]

>>5171264
Your coward's version of vanity will only hold you back. You have to finish some stuff, not just wait around until you reach 'the best it possibly can be', because that time will never EVER come. There is always improvement to be made.

[Anonymous No.5171315]

>>5171305
You are not a true cooma if it cools yr engine.

[Anonymous No.5171316]

>>5171310
Not enough contrast. When you color the body it's going to look like a big muddy blur.

[Anonymous No.5171317]

>>5171311
>In English
Sure. Learn to google and search both of those terms

[Anonymous No.5171320]

>>5171305
You spent too much time being a slave to your libido. Unshackle yourself from the madman and hone your craft, or suffer forever in the Deviantart pit of Shadman wannabes who can't stop trying pussies and buttholes and tits.

[Anonymous No.5171321]

>>5171264
with that mentality you will never be happy with anything you make since there is never gonna be a perfect piece of art.
you should always look at your work after your done to see what you could've done better but it should still be fun or something you think is cool to do.
aka, stop being a bitch and accept you'll make stupid mistakes in your drawings.

[Anonymous No.5171330]

>>5171317
No

[Anonymous No.5171335]

>>5171317
Okay so he is trying to put...sexy female head on...genre of Japanese comic book body? uhh........

[Anonymous No.5171339]

New thread or whatever.
>>5171337

[Anonymous No.5171341]

>>5171321
>Finish work after hours of deliberation
>Upload to the internet sites
>Weeks later learn a new technique or something I could improve
>Dig back up the old project file and fix it
>Have to fight the urge to repost it every time.

[Anonymous No.5171348]

>>5171335
I'm not surprised you're not smart enough to put the two together

[Anonymous No.5171363]

>>5171289

Rounded masculine features on the face, broad shoulders vs slender hips, etc. I was going to say the chest looked weird but I think it's mostly in the context that it's on a manly body. I think the biggest problem is just the wide neck and masculine trapezius definition. A woman's shoulder's don't have that triangular look, she's more trapezius than neck. Design wise think like a straight horizontal line for the shoulders and a slender neck. The muscularity shouldn't interfere with feminine traits. This maybe isn't the best example as far as "tomboys" go, but even muscular women with boyish faces will look notably feminine. The difference between tomboys and more feminine looking women is mostly stylistic and fairly subtle.

[Anonymous No.5171458]

>>5169498
Fixed some small details and almost finished coloring. Still no critique? Do you now need to be pro-level to even post in /beg/ or your stuff is 'too bad to redline'?Wtf

[Anonymous No.5171477]

>>5171458
You posted your image without saying anything you tard, of course it was over looked

[Anonymous No.5171492]

>>5171477
Not all images without caption are overlooked, Mr. Thread Cop. Moreover, it says
>POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!
in the OP and it's kinda obvious I wouldn't be posting here if I thought my art is perfect, is it?

[Anonymous No.5171495]

>>5170652
Is this from the watts atelier by a chance?

[Anonymous No.5171497]

>>5171492
>thread cop
?? I'm explaining to you why you got no critique fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.5171503]

>>5171497
No, you just like playing cop and calling people retards. Well, I hope it helps with whatever you're going through. Bye.

[Anonymous No.5171518]

>>5171495
drawabox

[Anonymous No.5171537]

>>5171311
what a nerd lmao

[Anonymous No.5171679]

>>5169477
fucking terrifying face

also extremely beg hands

[Anonymous No.5172283]

[Anonymous No.5172289]

>>5169576
why not just have a threaded barrel for a silencer and make it not a silencer and make it either threaded or use one of pic related

[Anonymous No.5172303]

>>5169721
That Terry looks pretty nice

[Anonymous No.5172464]

>>5169477
Teeth are too big, hands don't line up with the bar for shit. Good palette, though, and you're on the right path with the lighting.

[Anonymous No.5172475]

>>5172464
>>5171679
I know the dude fucked up but there are people who look like that

[Anonymous No.5172755]

>>5171130
ambient occlusion, and subsurface scattering for the first two but no clue what rim is