/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5165108]

Was he in the right /ic/?

[Anonymous No.5165149]

Sometimes, surely, other times in the wrong. Only human ain't he? That's how it be sometimes. Other times you just can't know, y'know? Who decides? No one can, it's all meaningless at the start, we just declare this and that, here you can have a cow, there and then you couldn't. All subjective I suppose. Mind you I'm just going off tangent a little bit, being a little too vague I suppose. But what's vague anyway? Who's to say I'm not right on the money? No one! It be funny sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5165156]

>>5165108
literally who

[Anonymous No.5165162]

looks jewish so no

[Anonymous No.5165603]

>>5165108
He's a comics god and possibly the greatest American artist of the 20th century. Of course he's right, and most of /ic will never understand.

[Anonymous No.5165605]

>>5165156
Good god, look at something besides animu, capeshit and artstation, ffs.

[Anonymous No.5165726]

About everything.

[Anonymous No.5165747]

Who is this fag

[Anonymous No.5165760]

>>5165747
Basquiat

[Anonymous No.5165804]

>>5165108
Who?

[Anonymous No.5165858]

>at least 3 here don't know who Robert Crumb is.
The absolute state of /ic/

[Anonymous No.5165863]

remember when liberals were more like this guy instead of whatever they are today? in those times conservatives dominated society and, to piss them off, artists would push the boundaries of what was "acceptable" by creating things that were more vulgar, more violent than yesterday. anything to inflame them and make them look like hypocrites. now the roles are reversed and the libshits dominate society. comedians, artists, any of the professions that were previously "off limits", can now get cancelled for taking things too far. i hate this stupid clown world.

[Anonymous No.5165870]

>>5165858
Nigga, I know who Crumb is, but why the fuck would I know his face?

[Anonymous No.5165887]

>>5165870
>why the fuck would I know his face?
Because his face is probably his favorite subject besides thicc women.

[Anonymous No.5165910]

>>5165863
Yeah, I would consider myself a leftist in the Crumb/Spain Rodriguez tradition.
Being old enough to remember when right-wingers were the censorious puritans, it’s strange to see ‘liberals’ take on that role.
I still think that free speech is essentially a ‘liberal-left’ position. I’m looking forward to a countercultural left reemerging giving the finger to puritanical retards. It can be found in the podcast world with shows like Red Scare and Fedpost.

[Anonymous No.5165914]

>>5165108
my mother gifted me a collection of different comic artists (basically an overview over different ones) for my 16th birthday over 10 years ago. There were nice ones like donald duck etc. Then there was Robert Crumb. I think his comics really fucked me up or at least unearthed the upfucking

I don't even like him so much, but it's still interesting

[Anonymous No.5165919]

>>5165910
I think these positions will not be switched (right progressive vs left conservative), but there will be a new form to call this stuff.

[Anonymous No.5167516]

ok time for some crumb

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[Anonymous No.5168896]

>>5167516
dude is going balls deep
i like his hatch marks

[Anonymous No.5168908]

>>5167516
I wish degenerate were more like this, like... This is endearing, it's really just him venting his sexual fantasies

[Anonymous No.5168980]

>>5165914
>I got traumatised by a sex comic.

[Anonymous No.5169048]

>>5165910
>I still think that free speech is essentially a ‘liberal-left’ position
There is no indication that free speech is an essential principle of the left wing. They purported to have been in favour of it when they were out of power and now that they rule most of the institutions of power, they can easily do away with it.

You may consider this hypocritical and unfair, but it's business as usual.

[Anonymous No.5169126]

I watched the documentary about him and find it funny that he acts likes he was such a loser when plenty of wagecucks and incels would kill to have the life that he did.

>making a living doing something you love
>having a bunch of art buddies
>doing tons of drugs
>getting so much hippy pussy that you have multiple gfs at a time

Hardly compares to his brothers who became a suicidal shut-ins and a serial molester.

[Anonymous No.5169892]

>>5169048
>There is no indication that free speech is an essential principle of the left wing.
Let's distinguish liberalism from leftism, two distinct traditions.
Free speech is definitely essential to liberalism. The Enlightenment thinkers affirmed freedom of speech as an inalienable right.
In leftism—which critiques capitalism and exalts the worker—the relationship to free speech is more complicated. But Marx himself supported freedom of the press, and leftists like Rosa Luxemburg were free speech absolutists. Only later did authoritarians like Stalin deviate from formative leftism.
Current wokies and the Democratic Party are totally different animals. I wouldn’t even call them ‘the left’. Dems are funded by Wall Street, and most wokies are bourgeois puritans. Wokies aren’t very liberal either. Yes, they are hypocrites.
Anyway, to stay on topic, attached Crumb exercising free speech.

[Anonymous No.5169912]

>>5168908
>I wish degenerate were more like this
Yeah, he's great. And proof that smut can be Art.

[Anonymous No.5169916]

his shit is so badly drawn, i doubt he'd even manage to be popular among modern nazis.

[Anonymous No.5169919]

>>5169126
Yeah, but if you aren't able to laugh about yourself or see your own shittyness, you'll never make it in life

[Anonymous No.5169931]

>>5169916
You have bad taste.
And you're right he wouldn't be popular among 'modern nazis.' He's truly subversive and makes art, not just memes. And 'modern nazis' tend to like neoclassical kitsch and the worst animu that appeals to their fascism fetish. They have no taste.

[Anonymous No.5169944]

>>5169931
subversive? nnnah, you're definitely confusing that with transgressive.

unless you mean his "low brow" style of drawing itself, but being weak at technique isn't really subversive. most comics of his era were pretty weak.

[Anonymous No.5169956]

>>5169944
>weak at technique
wtf? dude's technique is top tier.
what's the problem? not enough 3D model paintover, photobashed fantasy landscapes or animu sameface for you? artstation is thataway --->

[Anonymous No.5169967]

>>5169956
None of the above. I even like Bakshi.

Its just that his work is aesthetically bland.

[Anonymous No.5170014]

>>5169967
>aesthetically bland
Bland? Wot? Okay, we all like what we like.
I like Bakshi too, but Bakshi's success was both derivative and dependent on other artists. Crumb is the most obvious one, and his work on Wizards was influenced by (some would say ripped off of) Vaughn Bode and Wally Wood's Wizard King work. Working closely with artists like Mike Ploog, Ian Miller, and John K. (yeah, I know) fleshed out Bakshi's work as well.
Though I love his work, left to his own devices Bakshi lacked the coherent vision and discipline of someone like Crumb.

[Anonymous No.5170072]

>>5165108
yes

[Anonymous No.5170163]

>>5170014
That's why I mentioned him. He was clearly a disciple, to the extent his biggest success was a rendition of Crumb's earlier (better) work.

His technique is just poor.

[Anonymous No.5170181]

>>5169919
I’d like to see the rest of this

[Anonymous No.5170186]

>>5169956
>2018
holy shit I thought this guy died decades ago.

[Anonymous No.5170194]

Not right about this clearly

[Anonymous No.5170197]

>>5169892
To be fair, Cumb himself is a leftist (which is part of why he moved away from the USA), but picrel is more of a reaction to how hippies and other movements were starting to claim him as a "hero" of their generation. Before Crumb got really degenerate, he would be celebrated by women and feminists for being "body positive" in his work (back then, the ideal of beauty was a near anorexic girl like Twiggy)... He started to make art that was mean spirited on purpose just to get back at those people.

[Anonymous No.5170201]

>>5170186
he's still alive, but has lost faith in drawing because he got tired of giving drawings away to people and them getting dollar signs on their eyes, when it was supposed to be just a kind gesture

[Anonymous No.5170204]

>>5165858
I find this amusing because crumb is a literal star in the American art world yet most American posters probably don’t know who crumb is or what he does

[Anonymous No.5170208]

This guy is funny as shit. Why does he do this? 1

[Anonymous No.5170211]

>>5170208
2

[Anonymous No.5170212]

>>5170211
3/3

[Anonymous No.5170213]

>>5170211
He’s a fucking shitlord i love his stuff. My visual arts teacher showed us his work and some woke retards started to complain of course. What do you know these people then do a presentation about Steven universe and the rat jew who made it sayin how wonderful it was. So yeah crumb for life

[Anonymous No.5170215]

>>5170163
>Crumb's earlier (better) work
Technique-wise, his later work is much better. His early work may have been more inspired but in his later years his cross-hatching has become more refined.
See >>5169956 for another example.

[Anonymous No.5170216]

>>5170213
The dude really makes me laugh I’m not gonna lie this is completely new to me. Reminds me of reading viz as a kid but better

[Anonymous No.5170250]

>>5170215
these drawings were made because some random girl sent crumb some of her nudes, telling him she wanted to be immortalized by him via art

[Anonymous No.5170383]

>>5170250
Thx for the context, i was bewildered why there was modern tech on a crumb drawing.

[Anonymous No.5170512]

>>5170215
I wonder if he's fucked an instagram chick yet, or if he only fucks his wife now.

[Anonymous No.5170824]

>>5167527
the original cock crusher

[Anonymous No.5170830]

>>5169912
femdompilled

[Anonymous No.5170835]

>>5170215
Yeah but early on he drew the cat. Only thing of note in his career.

[Anonymous No.5170842]

>>5170212
kek

[Anonymous No.5171212]

>>5170512
Doubtful. Crumb is a notorious shut-in and hermit, and Aline gatekeeps hims vigorously. He had a brief period when he was in his LSD phase when he was promiscuous, but since meeting Aline, all I've heard is she keeps him on a very, very short lease.
Now? Dude is almost 80, he probably doesn't even jerk off much. Or leave the house.

[Anonymous No.5171228]

>>5169126
>>making a living doing something you love

Barely, until Aline came along.

>>having a bunch of art buddies

Kind of. Crumb was notorious for being a hermit, and not hanging out.

>>doing tons of drugs

For a short period. And he admitted they fucked him up a bit.

>>getting so much hippy pussy that you have multiple gfs at a time

For a short time, before he met Aline. And he wasn't that big a pussy slayer, he was just single in a time when sex was no big deal, and hippy chicks would fuck you because they were bored.

You're posting like he was like a rock star, which is hilariously not true. You know what he did most of the time, when he wasn't cooped up at home? Wandering around the Bay Area drawing, and not talking to people.

[Anonymous No.5171232]

>>5169956
This is from 2018, dummy. Crumb's technique has improved over the years, but back when he was doing comics, he was crude - especially compared to his contemporaries. And I say that as a fan. He was not doing work at this level back in the 60's and 70's. Period.

[Anonymous No.5171246]

>>5170204
>a literal star in the American art world
No, he's not. He's an outlier in the underground world, in that documentaries and shows of his work have appeared, and he's famous in the Juxtapoz world, but the mainstream art world wants nothing to do with him. The only time his work has been near a museum was part of an over-all show on cartooning.

Most people have no fucking clue who he is, or his work.

I'm a fan, and I would never call him "a literal star", because that's just straight up bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5171913]

I don't like his art style, but he is onto something that maybe with increased age, I too will realize.

[Anonymous No.5172570]

>>5165863
>right dominates society
>left makes *checks notes* porn

>left dominates society
>left makes *squints eyes* porn
>right makes memes, art and counter culture aimed at preserving values, heritage and morals

By brainscans, liberals literally have an underdeveloped disgust reflex. The pedos, furries, cucks, etc will all always be overwhelmingly (100 to 1) leftist for that reason.

pic related

[Anonymous No.5172575]

>>5165605
>look at coomer "art" SHIT instead

No thanks, I'm good

[Anonymous No.5175519]

>>5172570
>muh right muh left muh degeneracy
just draw nigger

[Anonymous No.5175533]

>>5169919
>>5170194
>>5170208
Wasn't GENESIS drawn entirely on 11x14" paper? I would've thought the older comics would be huge, like 20x30" or something

[Anonymous No.5175561]

He's funny but the art looks like shit dude. I can't believe anybody seriously think it's "good" besides being a wacky vessel for coom jokes. And considering that
>>5170215
is the best he can do actually trying to look realistic apparently I'd say he sucks.

[Anonymous No.5175710]

>Was he in the right /ic/?

Of course he was in the right! What sort of stupid question is that?

The man was a visionary, a true artist that helped to define an entire generation. His work remains just as relevant now as it did when it was fresh. And I mean FRESH. Such amazing work that never fails to resonant with someone the moment that they see it.

I'm not sure how anyone can even think to ask such a question about him being right and still inhabit this board. You really need to search yourself and re-evaluate what the fuck you're doing artistically if you feel the need to postulate such ridicul-

...Sorry, I've just been informed that you aren't talking about Corbusier, but rather some shitty hack of an American cartoonist. Nevermind.

[Anonymous No.5175805]

>>5167516
way ahead of his time regarding thiccness

[Anonymous No.5176698]

>>5175710
And Leonard Feininger?