/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5156052]

Bridgman, Vilppu, Huston, Loomis, Hampton, Hogarth.
Which one are the best in teaching anatomy ?

[Anonymous No.5156055]

>>5156052
Anatomy is like math.
All of us have the same muscles and bones.

[Anonymous No.5156057]

>asian woman

No thanks.

[Anonymous No.5156059]

>>5156052
just draw beglet

[Anonymous No.5156060]

>>5156052
Holy shit.
She looks like a down syndrome retard.
Disgusting face, disgusting body.
You have no taste OP

[Anonymous No.5156072]

>>5156052
Mooooarrr MOARRRRR

[Anonymous No.5156086]

Loomis + Bridgman is your best bet. Bridgman doesn't just teach anatomy, he teaches proper drawing principles. Construction. Use FWAP, FDFAIW, Bridgman, and a plastic anatomical skull model together, and you can go pro with just those resources. Eventually, when you want to get deeper with anatomy, buy the Proko anatomy course and learn to draw all the bones from memory using the 3d models.

I know this was a bait thread, with that pic and all, but I've been thinking about all this for a while, I had to get it off my chest. Vilppu is a good alternative, but to access his stuff you have to pay an obscene amount of money or pirate, and I'm against stealing. Huston's also alright, but I don't like his emphasis on simple big ideas (I studied his stuff for like a year and I never learned how to add sub-volumes to my drawings properly. Maybe I was just an idiot.) And Hogarth is literally the definition of trying to short-cut the learning process. Hampton is also really good, but his formulaic approach to learning can be a bit irritating. the robo-figures will for sure teach you how to draw, but Loomis and Bridgman free you up right from the start.

tl;dr: Vilppu, if you can afford him. Loomis + Bridgman otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5156094]

Bammes.
/thread

[Anonymous No.5156100]

>>5156086
Is bridgman really a good idea for begs when it seems hard to understand? Can I see your work anon? Not being facetious or anything, I am just curious as to what it looks like after you've managed to go through all the main figure drawing guys

[Anonymous No.5156112]

>>5156100
I'm not so enthusaistic about posting my work after insulting so many people in my comment. I know Steve Huston frequents this board. Maybe Michael Hampton. But here's an exercise I posted in another thread. It's a bit style-agnostic so I think I'm okay
>>5153004
That said, I'm not a pro. I'm just trying to put together a curriculum for myself. It's mostly aimed at line-art style drawing, if you want to be a painter you'd probably do a lot more painting than just figure drawing.

With bridgman, you should copy it line for line, at least that's what helped me. Because then you're copying his thinking process, the way he builds the figure within cubes and spheres. Then you should go and do lots of figure studies from photos or life, to make the exaggerations realistic. I don't really agree with what watts or proko says about not copying Bridgman line-for-line. But I don't really know what I'm talking about anyways.

[Anonymous No.5156200]

>>5156060
The face looks disgusting because it's shopped all to shit. Ironically, it would almost certainly look better with no shooping.

[Anonymous No.5156205]

>>5156052
Proko.

[Anonymous No.5156206]

>>5156052
Bammes is better than all those names, but there is one name that is even better than that.

[Anonymous No.5156207]

>>5156205
U N I R O N I C A L L Y

[Anonymous No.5156212]

>>5156206
Proko?

[Anonymous No.5156217]

>>5156212
Alberto Lolli

[Anonymous No.5156228]

>>5156217
>Alberto Lolli
>struttura
Good book in getting /beg/s to stop studying anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5156237]

>>5156086
>Use FWAP, FDFAIW, Bridgman, and a plastic anatomical skull model together, and you can go pro with just those resources.
I'm a pro and I never used any of those.

[Anonymous No.5156249]

>>5156237
>I'm a pro
Post your work

[Anonymous No.5156251]

>>5156249

[Anonymous No.5156261]

Construction, color theory, and perspective

These are the only three things you need. Anything else is just orienting you towards a specific goal, like drawing the human figure. You might read an observation that you might have otherwise not made on your own, but at the end of the day, it relates back to these three concepts somehow.

"When a human is below eye level, we can see the top of their head." -- an observation you might read in a figure drawing book

"When a cube is below eye level, we can see its top face." -- an observation you might read in a book on perspective

See the relation? One is more generalized (the cube) whereas the other is more specific (the human head). But they both describe the same principle of vision: things below our eye level will show their top.

Some people apparently lack the ability for abstract thought. They read the cube example but don't know how to apply it to things that aren't cubes. Thus we have hundreds of books and videos on specific topics.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if you are capable of thinking abstractly, save yourself the time and just get some good theory books.

[Anonymous No.5156265]

>>5156261
why did this look insightful and helpful and then proceeded to say absolutely nothing at all

[Anonymous No.5156368]

>>5156265
You can read a book on how perspective is used in figure drawing, or you can read a book that teaches perspective and use it on anything.

Drawing is vision on paper. Once you learn the basic rules that govern how we see things, then you can make anything.

[Anonymous No.5156371]

>>5156265
funnily enough, when you start drawing well, it all seems so simple and straightforward that you feel a bit retarded beforehand.

[Anonymous No.5156384]

>>5156052
Her face is crazy unattractive

[Anonymous No.5156389]

>>5156052
Eyes too high, mouth too small, ears too big. Editor monkey forgot loomis

[Anonymous No.5156396]

>>5156200
it would look better without the shopping, the makeup, and all that retarded plastic shit asian women love so much. at least she would resemble a human being then.

[Anonymous No.5156707]

>>5156052
>Bridgman, Vilppu, Huston, Loomis, Hampton, Hogarth.
>Which one are the best in teaching anatomy ?
yes

[Anonymous No.5156708]

>>5156052
PATREON
PATREON
MUH PATREON
PATREON
PATREON
P-PATREON!

[Anonymous No.5156804]

>>5156057
Have fun with western roasties, mudsharks and sjws.

[Anonymous No.5156821]

>>5156112
>I know Steve Huston frequents this board. Maybe Michael Hampton.
are people in 4chan so egotistical they think a 50 year old boomer will browse one of the slowest and worst boards here? you cant even say that he could do it to get people to buy his courses considering that no more than 40 people probably frequent this board

[Anonymous No.5156832]

>>5156261
Fundamentally this is true but for figure and face drawing in particular the standards are much more exacting - otherwise minor errors that would be hardly visible on a building or an animal can make a person look severely, obviously deformed. Accordingly I think this is one topic where subject-specific materials are valuable.

[Anonymous No.5156983]

>>5156052
If Ayys are our future selves evolved eons from now...are these the type of humans they started at?

[Anonymous No.5157327]

>>5156052
suddenly, I don't want anime to become real anymore

[Anonymous No.5157436]

>>5156821
how do you do this effect in a photo editor?

[Anonymous No.5157777]

>>5156804

>roasties, mudsharks and sjws

These exist amongst every race. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.5158657]

>>5157436
nvm figured it out

[Anonymous No.5158687]

>>5157777
not really, i have a LARGE group of Japanese friends that are women, all of them are virgins holding out for marriage. get out of your country more mate.

>i have found that this only really applies to japs tho, other asians put out heaps more, japs however, like 80% of em hold on to those v plate untill their late 30s

[Anonymous No.5158691]

>>5158687
that's got more to do with not being able to find a man than having some pure ideals about sex and sexuality. japan is pretty sexually liberated and don't really deal with sex in the same puritan monogamous way the west does.

[Anonymous No.5158808]

>>5156052
>cosplay tifa
>have no tits
what a waste of a photoshoot.

[Anonymous No.5158894]

>>5156060
seething white female hands typed this post

[Anonymous No.5159004]

>>5156112
>I know Steve Huston frequents this board.
no he absolutely does fucking not that nigga is like 60 years old

[Anonymous No.5159009]

>>5156052
>I'M GONNA FRICKIN COOOOOOOOOOOOM!

[Anonymous No.5159013]

>>5158687
A virgin weeb wrote this. Let me guess, you're going to be an English teacher in Japan and fuck all the school girls right?

[Anonymous No.5159029]

>>5156052
>Have hideous face
>Have nice body but not big tits
>Cosplay Tifa
Lol what was this chick thinking?

[Anonymous No.5159711]

I'm a fan of Proko and Scott Eaton myself
Proko makes it clear and simple, while scott goes more indepth with more examples of cadavers, people, x-rays and sculptures.

Also scott has a video segment called "Gallery Abominate" which consist of professional artist making anatomy mistakes. I uploaded a video about the back. THe video series i got i got is kinda low res but the info is great

https://mega.nz/file/6sgGSQTB#ZNoWL1zR7nWyemOsipczNA7_3SNvyiT4Pf-4foQKGfg

[Anonymous No.5159719]

>>5159029
"i think im gonna oil myself up and dress like this character and get some coomerbux" ?

[Anonymous No.5159742]

>>5159711
I'd second this. I credit most of my knowledge to Scott Eaton. He sparked my interest in anatomy which I didn't know I had, got me into artists he showed in the course and then really into Bridgman since I knew what he was trying to show.

I'd recommend someone who has grasp of the fundamentals to go through Huston's book with Eaton's course, since Eaton's course isn't a drawing course. Then go through Hampton's book and copy the drawings but recognize all the places he's making up fake anatomy or leaving anatomy out, and fill it in with the knowledge you got from Eaton and Huston. Then you can go on and raw whatever you want, learn from whoever else.

[Anonymous No.5159774]

I’m a beg learning hampton. Am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.5159798]

What’s the best anatomy for a beginner? Hampton is honestly starting to bore me

[Anonymous No.5159817]

>>5159798
Learning art is largely not exciting. I mean it is and I enjoy it, but it’s not entertainment it’s education. Try to stick it through because some much more boring teachers have great information to share

[Anonymous No.5159821]

>>5159817
Alright, thanks. I’ll keep going.

[Anonymous No.5159825]

>>5159798
There's no one best. I recommend the stuff here >>5159742 but if you want to learn anatomy, you should draw from life and look at all the books you can to see different interpretations of drawing the body. Some things work for some people and some don't.

[Anonymous No.5159842]

>>5159821
Good man

[Anonymous No.5159906]

>>5156052
i would take that harness thing and floss my fucking teeth with it. also i think its absolutely hilarious that she painted a fake shadow on half of her round moon face just for this photo to pretend it's not quite so fucking circular.

[Anonymous No.5161250]

>>5159711
>Also scott has a video segment called "Gallery Abominate" which consist of professional artist making anatomy mistakes. I uploaded a video about the back. THe video series i got i got is kinda low res but the info is great
do you have more?

[Anonymous No.5161683]

>>5159013
God no, who the fuck would does that to kids, you're fucking sick for even thinking up something like this.

[Anonymous No.5162947]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH PLEASE POST MORE AGGHHH

[Anonymous No.5162965]

>>5158691
still holds true tho