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[Anonymous No.5138721]

Is there hope of creating an animated series these days without it being completely pozzed? It seems like cartoons on major networks are just getting worse, and are more hardline about fitting in political messaging over good stories.

Are there any realistic alternatives to the big studios? I have dreams of making my own series, but I'm unsure of how to navigate the landscape right now. Can anyone else relate?

[Sindoll No.5138762]

>>5138721
You can always go indie and do what you want. The guy who adapted Shoujo Tsubaki pretty much did it all by himself.

That said, be prepared to endure hunger and unstable income.

[Anonymous No.5138792]

>>5138762
That's extremely impressive. The thing is I don't even want to do anything crazy like that film. I just want to make a nice wholesome show damnit.

[Anonymous No.5139554]

>>5138792
Then do it and figure it out as you go. Go now, you have all that you need from this place. Remove yourself.

[Anonymous No.5139563]

>>5138721
>I have dreams of making my own series
then the current state is more so fitting for you since pretty much anyone can get a show

although sleeping with a creative director or being a le influential blogger might be necessary

[Anonymous No.5139589]

>>5138721
I want to make a cartoon too. Learn to draw, learn the fundamentals of animation. You can do it anon. You've got options. OpenToonz used by Studio Ghibli and Rough Draft Studio as well as for various american animated series/movies is open source as well and it's very professional.

[Anonymous No.5139605]

>>5138792
>wants to make a “wholesome show”
>thinks there’s such a thing as being apolitical in any narrative form
This is going nowhere fast.

[Anonymous No.5139609]

>>5138721
Learn to draw comics

[Anonymous No.5139610]

>>5139609
When you think about it, animation is just a comic book/manga panel drawn thousands of times to make a moving picture.

[Anonymous No.5139612]

wew, was the black hair girl really that tall?

[Anonymous No.5139615]

>>5139612
She was a rather tall gal.

[Anonymous No.5139618]

I loved Code Lyoko. Was this used as an example of a "completely pozzed" show?
A lot of people are using animation software to make their own shorts. You can also do what other anons suggested and make a webcomic, then have little animated shorts as intros.

[Anonymous No.5139620]

>>5139615
damn, that's hot

[Anonymous No.5139634]

>>5139615
I also liked Code: foreheads

[Anonymous No.5139652]

>>5139615
First seasons had the better outfits

[Anonymous No.5139741]

>>5139612
>>5139615
they're middleschoolers and she was 2 years older

[Anonymous No.5139817]

>>5139605
>political extremist thinks everything is political, because everything either supports their agenda or doesn't
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5140320]

>>5139618
No, the opposite. I really liked it as a kid and have been thinking about it lately.
>>5139563
>>5139589
>>5139609
>>5139610
Thank you guys for your advice. I honestly didn't expect people to be helpful when I made this thread.
>>5139554
I think you might be right.

[Anonymous No.5140382]

>>5138721
>live in huehueland
>ANVISA is finally licensing/funding more than 2 minute long flash """educational""" programs for 6 year olds
>gloob or whatever the fuck globo kiddie version is and discovery kids too
LatM in general has been doing fairly well in the cartoon departament, the non-network funded stuff is also starting to expand beyond comissioned evangelishiter propaganda, only form that has taken a big hit is puppetry and claymation, but those have been dead since TVcultura kicked the bucket, only place where it doesn't look good is nickelodeon and their newgrounds level shit

[Anonymous No.5140603]

>>5138721
Nothing preventing you from doing so, everyone is looking at animations from the web. Pirate your tools from CGpeers, get inspiration from the stuff that you like, and publish your anims to lbry/YT

[Anonymous No.5140665]

>>5138721
You plan on going viral (because that's your only hope) on the internet
From absolute zero
In the year of the Loomis 2000 + 20 + 1
Without being extremely rich and connected on your own (I assume or you would have achieved everything already)
Without pandering to upper class Americans who are willing to blow money on your Kickstarter
Without pandering to women (age doesn't matter, they don't grow past 13 mentally) with progressive narratives and gay love
Without pandering to cumbrains with fetishes (this includes pillow-humping weeaboos)
Basically you need to come out of Gobelins and put out a TV quality short entirely on your own and basically run on sheer "look what I can do" before resorting to one the things I mentioned above to stay afloat and actually eat.
Basically you need to make groundbreaking animation JUST to be visible, and then you'll still have to eat the cock.
Not shooting you down, just preparing your for what is real.

[Anonymous No.5140935]

>>5140665
Have you ever produced any animation?

[Anonymous No.5140954]

>if the story has a theme I don't like it means is bad

[Anonymous No.5141006]

>>5138721
Not in america but there are unpozzed good shows coming from europe (and japan obv.)

[Anonymous No.5141013]

You didn’t pick Code Lyoko as an example of a cartoon that isn’t political, did you?

[Anonymous No.5141049]

>>5141013
Remember
>Political is when I don't like it

[Anonymous No.5141062]

>>5141006
Which ones from Europe?
>>5141013
I just picked it because I had been thinking about the show. My issue is with shows having to be political, not being political

[Anonymous No.5141126]

>>5140382
What happened with TV Cultura?

[Anonymous No.5141154]

>>5141126
Looks like its still around, thought it got canned for some reason, but then again cocorocó is dead and rá tim bum is a shuffling corpse, only place i can think of that still uses non digital is indie movies soapboxing about muh poverty and inequality, they do look nice at least