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[Anonymous No.5127159]

>Learn gesture bro
>Learn loomis bros
>Loomis doesn't use gesture bro
Which one should I follow? Make a loomis mannequin or do gesture?

[Anonymous No.5127161]

>>5127159
Follow the Bible, disregard false Gods.

[Anonymous No.5127165]

Just draw

[Anonymous No.5127171]

Learn anatomy then figure drawing.Then gesture. Jumping into gesture with zero understanding of proportion, anatomy, or drawing figures with mass is a noob trap.

[Anonymous No.5127177]

>>5127159
I've found learning gesture early overrated. I had a life drawing teacher who over-emphasized gesture and found it a stumbling block.
A better approach would be to learn construction early (but perspective basics first) using either Loomis or another method like the one in Walt Reed's The Figure.
After that study a book that focuses on gesture and movement like the attached.

[Anonymous No.5127179]

>>5127161
uhhh based?

[Anonymous No.5127181]

>>5127159
Consruction+perspective, start by doing a lot of practices to get comfortable with just spinning shapes in in 3d
Then start constructive figure drawing where you aren't using grids like a tard and instead break down the figure into 3d shapes and spin them around and place them
Then just do a lot of constructive figure drawing from life and from dynamic references
By that point you will already have a feel for gesture that is actually better than most retards out there, but if you learn gesture on top of that you will become a lot more dynamic and you will be able to play with movement in the composition itself
essentially you can think of motion itself as a shape that directs attention of the viewer

[Anonymous No.5127201]

>>5127159
You should read whole guide in what you saw a word "gesture" and do literally anything (and do it not bad) what guide want you to do before you go to gesture chapter. Seconding this >>5127171. Let Vilppu or Hampton teach you, not local gesture maniacs and trolls. Also it's many of gesture and Vilppu related threads this week, many as never.

[Anonymous No.5127202]

Can I combine vilppu and loomis? Make a vilppu gesture and then apply the loomis mannequins to it?

[Anonymous No.5127206]

>>5127202
that's illegal

[Anonymous No.5127211]

>>5127171
This is literally the opposite of what you should do. Don’t concern yourself with the details before you can capture the figure as a whole. That’s why in most figure drawing books they cover gesture or a similar way to abstract/simplify the figure

[Anonymous No.5127212]

>>5127202
Learn from more than 2 teachers

[Anonymous No.5127213]

>>5127211
They cover this first, is what I meant to say

[Anonymous No.5127269]

>>5127159
ilove and tried this loomis stuff and i didn't learn much. i went to Hampton and he breaks things donwn. should i read/study something with his book?

[Anonymous No.5127273]

>>5127159
you don’t have to do it formulaically every time, you just need to understand it. It’s a method not a rule. Good artists don’t need to draw a whole perspective grid to draw something in perspective for example

[Anonymous No.5127279]

>>5127159
>Loomis doesn't use gesture bro
False, he uses it all the time. Learn Loomis

[Anonymous No.5127280]

>>5127211
word if you can’t draw a good stick man you can’t draw a good person. Sounds dumb but if you’ll notice decent artists sketches look “human” and “right” from the first basic gesture

[Anonymous No.5127286]

>>5127279
>False, he uses it all the time
Prove it. Figure drawing for all its worth makes no mentioning of it.

[Anonymous No.5127319]

>>5127159
loomis mannequin IS gesture
anything that captures figure's action, motion and mood and done within couple minutes can be called gesture

[Anonymous No.5127342]

>>5127279
He doesn’t teach it very well

[Anonymous No.5127358]

>>5127159
I don't know why Loomis would use a technique made for animation when he was an illustrator.

[Anonymous No.5127381]

>>5127319
Nooooo!! Gesture has to be unreadable abstract scribbles that can't be turned in perspective! Muh fluidity!!

[Anonymous No.5127384]

>>5127358
even if you mostly draw and paint from models as an illustrator it still helps to do this to plan your compositions and to know how you need your models to pose

[Anonymous No.5127404]

>>5127286
Sure. Pic related. Also, the whole mannikin section of the book purely teaches you to draw gesture.

[Anonymous No.5127405]

>>5127404
What book is this from?

[Anonymous No.5127414]

>>5127405
figure drawing for all it's worth by andrew loomis

[Anonymous No.5127448]

>>5127405
Pain with a pencil by Nandrew Coomis

[Anonymous No.5127752]

>>5127358
It's not a "technique", it's a conceptual abstraction. If you draw well, you're using gesture regardless if you're using the word or not.

[Anonymous No.5127760]

You should know "gesture" is just "rhythm" by another name
And yes, he does go over it in his book

[Anonymous No.5127824]

>>5127159
Find someone you like and copy them

[Anonymous No.5127845]

>>5127165
Yup, just draw and don't spend too much time watching tutorials without actually drawing.

[Anonymous No.5127877]

>>5127760
>And yes, he does go over it in his book
Where?

[Anonymous No.5128149]

>>5127165
I am

[Anonymous No.5128227]

>>5127877