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5115658 No.5115658 [Reply] [Original]

Draw this image, /ic/

I'll post mine in a few

>> No.5115662
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I wanna spread butter all over my face like a pig eating from a trough and then smother my face into those boobies and suckle on those nips like a starving African child desperate for protein

>> No.5115673
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Here's mine, I'm trying to do more figure drawing and gesture this year

>> No.5115688

>>5115658
ok, pay me first

>> No.5115690

I’m so lonely

>> No.5115705

>>5115688
pyw, I doubt you have anything worth paying for, friendo

>> No.5115853
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5115853

what a dumb pose

>> No.5115942

>>5115853
Nice work!

>> No.5115963

>>5115853
>VR
Fuck off redditor

>> No.5115971
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5115971

>>5115963
thanks fren
>>5115963
suck my cock dude

>> No.5115986

>>5115971
What's your approach to studying figure drawing? Any tips for capturing the appeal of flat chested girls?

>> No.5115995
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>> No.5115998
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>> No.5116000

>>5115998
draw this, not trace different parts

>> No.5116031
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5116031

>>5115658

>> No.5116037
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>>5115998
how about YOU draw this
may be you will become slightly less of the blind retard then

>> No.5116040

>>5116037
meant for >>5116000

>> No.5116523
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5116523

>>5115658

>> No.5116535

>>5115705
you probably don't have any money anyways poorfag, that's why you're making this shitty threads.

>> No.5116610

The next FIGUARY will have everyone in a mask

>> No.5116657
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5116657

I got lazy but post more ref let's gooo

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>>5115658
light values are my mortal enemy

>> No.5116693

>>5115971
>fren
Well he was right about you being a redditor, if anything you owe him a blowjob.

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>> No.5116725
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>> No.5116974
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5116974

A lot better than what I expected, thanks op. I'll probably continue this tomorrow

>> No.5116992

>>5116672
So is measuring. And observation. You have the model right in front of you, and you're off the mark on all of it. LOOK at what's in front of you. Observe the measurements and proportions. Master that before worrying about lighting.

>> No.5117010

>>5116693
you just outed yourself as a newfag, sorry fren

>> No.5117015
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5117015

Tried to make it more interesting and nuked a pen

>> No.5117054

>>5116535
Post your blog and PayPal so I can commission you plz

>> No.5117076

>>5115986
it's all in the tummy

>> No.5117091
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5117091

Alright how did I do?

>> No.5117121

>>5116725
needs bigger booba

>> No.5117123

>>5117091
>covering up the good parts
stop being such a prude

>> No.5117201
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5117201

>>5117121
booba big enough?

>> No.5117208

>>5117123
What are you talking about? The Feet are on full display

>> No.5117240
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5117240

>>5115673

>> No.5117250

>>5117201
>>5115998

Based

>> No.5117272
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5117272

Boomboom

>> No.5117328

>>5117015
deskboy ilyw

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5117425

drawing is hard haha lol

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5117476

Still a /beg/ but this was a fun challenge. Please point out stuff that's wrong, shit on me, I want to improve.

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>>5115673
>>5117240
nice, your brush strokes describe the form really well. I think tightening up the edges on the thigh so that the legs are more separated would help a bunch.
>>5115995
very cool approach, I like how you simplified the face a lot. the lines are nice and energetic, but it gets a little muddled around the calves and feet. I think dropping down a line for the neck would help bring the torso together too
>>5116031
I like how you handled the face here, very expressive. I like the graphic lasso-tool look of the figure as well, I think the only thing I would add is an indication of the deltoid on the right arm so that it doesn't look quite so tube-like
>>5116523
the values here are really solid. the drawing's a little messy, but the proportions seem on point. I'm not sure if the lost edge between the torso and the drapery behind her is working... maybe just a little indication of the outline of her ribcage would help
>>5117476
this is nice, your lines are very flowy and the line quality works well to define the forms. the far thigh looks real meaty, but the other thigh seems a little deflated by contrast. I'm not sure if her butt is quite so saggy either lolol. you handle the pencil really well, I think just learning a few more landmarks on the body would bring the drawing to another level

>> No.5117783

>>5117757
sucks

>> No.5117922

>>5117757
Nice work! I love how tight and solid everything looks. Nice form. Thanks for the notes.

>>5117476
IMO the way you draw is lovely, but the foundation of it is not very solid. Just keep working and you'll be just fine.

>>5117425
I think your shapes are nice.

>>5117272
I admire you choosing to be part of the color club, it's rare around here.

>>5117091
Too modest but good effort, thumbs up

>>5117015
>>5116725
>>5115998
>>5116703

I like the creative interpretations, good fun

>>5116672
keep practicing, friend. I think studying basic forms would benefit you greatly.

>>5116657
nice boobs

>>5116523
love it, thumbnail looks amazing

>>5116031
neat style

>> No.5118358
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5118358

Im new and I have no idea how to blend values in photoshop. using the smudge tool causes all my shadow to across the entire image and I have no control no matter how light or hard I press or how small or large of a brush i use

>> No.5118408

>>5115998
booba

>> No.5118412

>>5118358
don't half-ass feet

>> No.5118419

I've failed again

>> No.5118422
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5118422

I'm a /beg/ (OBVIOUSLY) I don't tend to draw bodies because it ends up like this, a failure, I failed again, don't understand legs, I blew things out of proportion again, don't understand anatomy and guess what? VALUES? I know jackshit about values. I can't do this, this is bullshit

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>>5118422
Compare this to this >>5118358 or this >>5117425
and this >>5117091
I feel FUCKING TALENTLESS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5118429
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>>5118422
4 MOnths gets you that? I should kill myself already, end this childish dream of being an artist, I just don't have the talent for it. FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK

>> No.5118444

>>5118429
Loomis the fuck up, stop with the self-pity, and get back to work until your drawings look just as good as Loomis. If you thing these /beg/ drawings look much better than yours, you're delusional.

>> No.5118445
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5118445

FAILED AGAIN
FAILED AGAIN
FAILED AGAIN
FAILED AGAIN
Failure is eternal, failure is persistent
Its ok that we live in this way, young and alive? To be exceeded by those well on the road, those masters and students of art, that is one thing
TO BE BESTED BY >>5118358
>>5117425
>>5117091
>>5116703
>>5116672
IS ANOTHER
wasted my time chasing dreams
had no talent no love left to give
ART!
Theres nothing I can do, only fail and crash

>> No.5118447

Why? Why me? Why am I me? This talentless being with no skill for art, with nothing left anymore.
Art won't root for me, I'm a fucking tapeworm

>> No.5118454

>>5118444
imagine still falling for this half-assed larping

>> No.5118456
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>>5118419
>>5118422
>>5118427
>>5118429
>>5118445
stfu and stop being stupid, faggot. study hard AND smart. start by checking your angles

>> No.5118459

>>5115998
tremendously based

>> No.5118460

>>5118454
larping? LARPING
>>5118444
but their drawings are better than mine, they seem to get something I cant something I CANT GRASP OR PERCEIVE
>>5118456
IS IT ANGLES OR SOMETHING ELSE
WHY CAN THEY DO IT BUT NOT ME
AM I TALENTLESS?

>> No.5118464

>>5118444
mY ATTEMPT is the worst one in this thread
THE WORST ONE

>> No.5118467

>>5118454
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THIS IS A LARP. I'M FUCKING SHIT AND GOIG TO KILL MYSELF

>> No.5118469

>>5118467
YOURE NOT ME

>> No.5118481

welp it was fun, thread's over, 4 months anon is here and it's just going to be 100 posts of people fighting with him now.

>> No.5118483

>>5118481
I dont want to fight
I want to draw
tell me why those new anons are better
my drawing is the worst here

>> No.5118490

>>5118481
That said, if you refuse to help me, I can certainly attempt to draw every single draw this thread from now on

>> No.5118493

thanks for making a trip, make sure to stick to it so everyone can filter you out

>> No.5118494

old trick
so youre refusing to help me then?

>> No.5118495
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5118495

>>5118445
Based failure poster

We’re not gonna make it (and that’s OK)

>> No.5118497

>>5118495
eat shit
i dont give a shit about you i give a shit about ME

>> No.5118505

>>5115658
B O O B A

>> No.5118529
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>> No.5118541

>>5118529
How long have you been drawing?

>> No.5118544

>>5118541
More than you have been

>> No.5118545

>>5118544
Youve been drawing for a month and youre already better then me, why?

>> No.5118556

>>5118544
fuck off, 4 months should be enough to at least have a basic IDEA OF THINGS. I'm talentless and anyone can see that.

>> No.5118558

>>5118556
This one is not me, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH IM A RABBIT NOW

>> No.5118561

>>5118558
take your meds

>> No.5118611

>>5118445
oh shit he's back

>> No.5118612

>>5117757
I really like the torso and legs in this one. good shit.

>> No.5118633

>>5118422
>so bad there's no advice to give
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA NO FUCK
>>5117757
Fuck you talented shit

>> No.5118653

>>5118633
people tried to give you advice but you like wallowing in self pity and shitting up threads so now you get nothing, fuck off

>> No.5118661

>>5118653
>loomis is advice
HAHAHAHAHHA not at all

>> No.5118663

>>5118661
just because the advice doesn't work for you doesn't mean it isn't advice.

>> No.5118669

>>5118661
loomis didn't work for me, try Steve Huston's course. Grab it from the Mega here:

chrome-extension://bigefpfhnfcobdlfbedofhhaibnlghod/mega/secure.html#folder/gQNgxBbQ#IttTTf7p8b1jRGvaPEIh_A/folder/9QFRzQ7D

I'm red-sketch anon. He teaches well and he's helped me understand muscles and stuff. I just got through week 2 the upper torso, so I'm still just winging the lower half of the body though.

For flat out understanding gesture and forms, I used a combination of Proko's bean method, and Vilppu's strokes, the way he pulls and pushes on his pencil and really exaggerates his motions to get a feel for the flow of a figure.

>> No.5118673

>>5118669
bad link, here https://mega.nz/folder/gQNgxBbQ#IttTTf7p8b1jRGvaPEIh_A/folder/0AVjDYLa

>>5118661

>> No.5118679

>>5118460
>he still isn't checking his angles
stay bad then

>> No.5118680

>>5118669
We talked yesterday, I posted the rabbit, thanks.
>>5118679
DIE DIE DIE DIE FUCK YOU

>> No.5118689

>>5118680
red-sketch anon here again, checking your angles is valid advice, don't let 4chan anons get you flustered dude. When I'm drawing I am constantly scanning where my line is going in comparison to where the other stuff I put down is, compared to how it looks in the reference. This is difficult and it's a mental muscle that needs exercising. I'm still far from being considered really good, but I'm at the point where drawing is actually fun now since I like how a lot of what I do is coming out.

Checking angles is not literally measuring, it's just not getting lost in one corner of your picture and forgetting to check that the section you're drawing looks like it matches well with everything else.

>> No.5118731

>>5118689
Because you're fucking talented huh? Thanks anyways but still
fuck off

>> No.5118740

>>5118689
Why are you brainlets still entertaining this fucking troll? can you guys stop fucking replying to him and maybe then he'll stop shitting up this board

>> No.5118742

>>5118740
I'll stop "shitting up" your circlejerk once I get better, SO FUCK OFF AND DIE

>> No.5118757
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>>5118680
>>5118731
jesus fuck.
you're bad ok? you'll never make it no matter how much anons spoonfeed you advice. it's all talent so you don't have to worry your pretty little head about actually putting effort. feel free to kill yourself at any time since your life is meaningless.
is that what you wanted to hear?

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>>5118757
Want me to cry, I do what I want how I want, you have no power over me so shove it up your ass.
I can DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT
Take that red pencil and fuck yourself with it, far better use than the current one.

>> No.5118768
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5118768

Shoulda posted earlier because it looks like I'm late to the party. I had a difficult time figuring out the pose on her left forearm/hand as it reaches her head, and my scale is definitely off towards her head as well. Made her look like a mongo when I sketched her face,

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>> No.5118786
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>>5118762

>> No.5118794

>>5115986
first I look at the grown woman and I pretend that its a small child because I am a pedo.

>> No.5118911
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5118911

>>5118422
so far you can draw better than me
and I've been at it for 6 years

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>>5118497
Don’t challenge your fate anon, you’ll just hurt yourself

>> No.5118958

>>5118422
Well maybe if you didn’t avoid drawing them they would turn out better. Stop posting stupid things and study

>> No.5119130
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need more contrast, proportions are fucked up and more I guess

>> No.5119150
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5119150

Just got some conte crayons, first time using them.

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>> No.5119427

>>5117208
based

>> No.5119483
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5119483

any tips appreciated

>> No.5119649
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5119649

hi me /beg/

>> No.5119651

>>5119150

Nigga thats fucking charcoal

>> No.5119663

>>5119651
nah thats conte

>> No.5119698
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5119698

Cool

>> No.5119709

>>5119698
this is nice u shouldve included the drapery on the head

>> No.5119750
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5119750

made in approx. 15 min

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>> No.5119849

Based 4 months fag shitting up the thread once again

>> No.5119862
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5119862

>>5118445>>5118495

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76o9FQ7ux1s

It doesn't take talent, it needs dedication
I surround myself with music on my daily meditation
My ideas fail often but wise man once decried
"The master's failed more than the student has tried"

Come back when your a little MMM RICHER!

>> No.5120008

>>5117757
From what instructor did you learn anatomy?

>> No.5121875

bump, that the thread does not die before I start the drawing

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>>5115658

>> No.5122051

>>5115971
thats my fav

>> No.5122554
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5122554

I am returning back into art after a very long pause and trying to test myself
Tried to do in under 10 mins

>> No.5123288

>>5120008
Proko's videos, Valerie Winslow's anatomy book and Bridgman's Constructive Anatomy book mostly

>> No.5125357

>>5122554
the proportions are well captured, did you finish it or is it just a quick sketch?

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5125486

>>5115658
charcoal, bristol paper - A4

>> No.5125529

>>5125357
I don't intend to finish it desu, I need to get back to fundamentals instead of doing figures like this
I am trying to make perspective inuitive for me atm

>> No.5125607
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5125607

Some great efforts. This took me awhile

>> No.5125646

>>5125607
This one's nice, that's some great rendering and line work. My only nitpicky critique would be that those toes look too long and almost finger-like. Other than that it's a solid drawing, you've got a really appealing style
>>5125486
This one too is a great illustration, your handle of values is outstanding.

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5125653

>>5125646
>This one's nice, that's some great rendering and line work.
Thanx m8

>> No.5125680

>>5125486
Overall clean render. Good study.

>> No.5125686

>>5125607
More solid than most here except maybe this guy >>5125486

I would say the issues with yours are the proportions, the head seems off to me, maybe a pinch bigger would do? its easy to fix with digital. I mean you dont have to to that but if you ever do, fix it before you post.

Otherwise this post is nice. You managed to somehow put soul on a boring study. Very good.

>> No.5125697 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ZY4RQyZnE

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>> No.5126112

>>5125944
Objectively the best one in the thread by every metric, congratulations

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5126132

i give up

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>>5126112
>Objectively the best one in the thread by every metric, congratulations

>> No.5126353

>>5125944
just finish the chair, so it gives a little more stability

>> No.5126359

>>5125646 >>5125680 >>5125686
thanks anons

>> No.5126417

>>5125944
man, how long did this to take you?

>> No.5126648

>>5119651
Nope, its a conte crayon

>> No.5126655

>>5125486
Best one so far. How long did it take?

>> No.5126691

>>5126655
Thanks anon. I'm not sure, but I vaguely remember the time I started and finished; I did it in less than five hours with several breaks in between. It would have taken me much longer, but I rushed at the end because I was sleepy, and that's why I decided to finish it with crosshatching.

>> No.5126759

>>5125486
I'll be honest, your construction and proportions are way off compared to the level of rendering that you've put in
Her back is arching at an unnatural angle and her breasts are not following the form of the ribcage at all, not to mention that the shapes and sizes of the midsections are off
Your values are wonderful thougha nd so are your strokes and overall how you handle the pen
Just overlay your drawing on top of the original picture and you will see where you messed up

>> No.5126760

>>5125944
Only one to actually use construction and still be aqurate.
>>5117757
Second best one because also actually has a good handle of construction but decided to stylize and follow your own thing instead of actually trying to study from the ref.
The rest all have bad to mediocre construction skills.

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5127295

>>5115658
This is so fucking difficult

>> No.5127298

>>5127295
Ooh this is pretty cool, weird file name though.

>> No.5127301

>>5127298
It's from Gyazo

>> No.5127303

>>5127301
Oh I c.

>> No.5127315

>>5126759
Yes, I know what you mean, I wanted to try to make a more direct drawing, so I started to put strong lines with a very basic sketch. I tend to have problems with proportions when I use an unrefined sketch as a base. This is disguised in the finish drawing, although in the foot you can see an error of proportions that I had to correct because it was too evident.


As for the back, I wanted to risk how it would look by exaggerating the hip area, especially the oblique, even though it is a woman. The problem is that because of this the line of the back does not follow the ribcage correctly, I had not realized at the time. The abdominal area I was thinking of correcting later, is what less time I spent and it is too noticeable.

Thank you for the critique anon

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focused only on the important bits

>> No.5127366

>>5127334
good job
how long did it take

>> No.5128292

>>5125486
You deserve a (you)

>> No.5128309

>>5127334
Based

>> No.5128450

>>5127334
best tits in the thread

>> No.5129350

>>5127334
Based torso connoiseur

>> No.5130085

>>5127366
I think around 2 hours would be a fair estimate

>> No.5130175

>>5125944
What do you use to render like this? Is it a mixing brush?

>> No.5132948

bump

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5-10 minutes or so