/BEG/ - Beginner thread

[Anonymous No.5092929]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.
Previous Thread: >>5087786

[Anonymous No.5092934]

>try to do 3/4 dwarf face from imagination
>draw a fucking wojak
HELP ME
THIS IS THE WORST SYMBOL DRAWING THING I COULD POSSIBLE SYMBOL DRAW
MY BRAIN THINGS 3/4 FACE IS MEMES
ARGHGHGHAH

[Anonymous No.5092940]

What do you think

[Anonymous No.5092952]

I suspect my main problem with how 'off' this image looks is the pillow shading, right? how would this be best fixed?

[Doge No.5092954]

So hello ppl I’m back. Trying a new style of art. How’s this? What can I do better next time?

[Anonymous No.5092956]

>>5092940
Scale and proportions. Measure if you have to.

[Anonymous No.5092959]

>>5092934
try rotating a cube first and see how the plane of the surface looks like.

[Anonymous No.5092965]

>>5092954
get rid of that deep fried shit

[Doge No.5092969]

>>5092965
Ay this is better then all the stupied durp faces that u ppl draw a lot of the time and call them “art”. I’m done faking. I’ve given it my best so fuck off hater.

[Anonymous No.5092971]

>>5092956
Thanks. Can you tell which proportions are off?

[Doge No.5092972]

>>5092965
If anything this looks like real 20th century art so meh hate all u want, just know ur derp faces aren’t true art and u don’t have a heart.

[Doge No.5092974]

Here’s another. Someone please tell me what I did wrong because at one point it went all wrong but I’m not sure which.

[Anonymous No.5092980]

>>5092971
Her right arm is beyond fucked. My recommendation is to have a reference in a rather neutral pose next to your drawing to easily get the proportions from.

[Anonymous No.5092985]

>>5092934
use ref
>>5092952
you chose muddy shadow colors, try shifting the hue more based on the ambient light. and to fix the pillow shading you just gotta pick a light source and draw out lines to figure out whats in shadow and what isn't. the light looks like its coming from top left but there are bits facing that way that are in shadow such as the hand and parts of the coat. and stop using the airbrush

>>5092974
looks like a photo that you painted over and then deep fried. just use hard round brush next time and you'll get better

[Anonymous No.5092986]

>>5092980
You mean the length of the arm? it doesn't look different from this pic to me

[Doge No.5092993]

>>5092985
Okay thanks. I knew I messed up somehow.

[Anonymous No.5092994]

>>5092986
If your nipples are as thick as your wrists I'm worried for you.

[Anonymous No.5093010]

>>5092954
You have to be 18+ to be on this site

[Anonymous No.5093011]

alright what do you guys think so far?

[Anonymous No.5093012]

>>5092934
"Use reference" Feng Zhu.
See you in 4 months.

[Anonymous No.5093027]

>>5092959
>>5092985
>>5093012
Yeah I might be too over ambitious to try imagination faces that arent straight on or a profile shot. Thanks
Studying dorfs because I need to draw a dorf. Trying to figure out proportions

[Anonymous No.5093028]

>>5092954
basic filter on a photograph is now considered an art style?

[Anonymous No.5093031]

I am beginning to feel like i am gonna make it my friends

[Anonymous No.5093035]

>>5093031
her nipples look like piranha plants and i dont think you've ever seen a vagina before

[Anonymous No.5093040]

>>5093031
Welcome to the long and painful grind of anatomy and proportions, my friend. Keep at it
>>5093035
> i dont think you've ever seen a vagina before

[Anonymous No.5093043]

>>5093031
GMI, but work on face, nips and puss puss

[Anonymous No.5093045]

>>5093040
I am already about to shoot myself from it

[Anonymous No.5093059]

[Anonymous No.5093063]

>>5093045
Im gonna try tinder when lockdown ends and if it I hate it then Ill just accept it

[Anonymous No.5093116]

>>5093031
you are barely at the beginning, but yes you are in the right direction

[Anonymous No.5093147]

My dwarf looks like an actual real person with Dwarfism and not a fantasy dwarf. Fuck
Whats the trick with the proportions? Make them wider?

[Anonymous No.5093165]

>>5093147
look at the dwarves from witcher 3
they're basically potatoes with limbs. everything needs to be thicker and juicier, with stubby little limbs. also hands as big as their head.

[Anonymous No.5093166]

>>5093165
fuck, wrong image

[Anonymous No.5093186]

why would i even try at art if i know it will lead nowhere and i will never improve
none of you will ever make it
i'm sorry

[Anonymous No.5093191]

>>5093165
>>5093166
>that pic mixup
Thanks. Ill check out witcher dwarves, havent seen them before

[Anonymous No.5093193]

>>5093186

[Anonymous No.5093195]

>>5093186
Are you european by any chance

[Anonymous No.5093214]

>>5093195
yes

[Anonymous No.5093217]

>>5093186
Why try at anything? For me, it's because I want to see what happens next.

[Anonymous No.5093220]

>>5093217
you will make a bad drawing
that's it, there is no next

[Anonymous No.5093221]

>>5093220
I've made some ones that I liked. So maybe the next one I draw is one of those

[Doge No.5093223]

>>5093010
I am 20 thank you. Sorry I drew a demonic child and am now somehow considered under 18

[Anonymous No.5093230]

>>5093220
NGMI in life mentality

[Doge No.5093229]

>>5093028
It’s a paint bro I swear some yall never seen true art up in museums.

[Anonymous No.5093231]

>>5093230
i already failed life, do you think i care?

[Anonymous No.5093233]

>>5093186
You should draw because you find it fun, even if it brings you pain you should still do it, the joy of trusting a line and sticking to it, the joy of being confused at what you're trying to draw but still doing it. That maybe one day you too can be your heroes, that's drawing.

[Anonymous No.5093237]

>>5093231
then just bite the bullet and stop wasting societies resources

[Anonymous No.5093239]

Tried drawing a head for the first time in a while, messed up the nose quite badly, need to get better at measuring.

[Anonymous No.5093241]

>>5093239
ref

[Anonymous No.5093246]

>>5093237
I'm too much of a coward to do it.
I don't want to die, yet I don't want to live either because I find no meaning in it if I'm not good at drawing,
And I'm not, I can't even draw a stickman properly.
>>5093233
>That maybe one day you too can be your heroes, that's drawing.
https://imgur.com/a/iJmUMwh
I will never draw like this guy. Never. It's just natural talent which I literally don't have.

[Anonymous No.5093248]

>>5093186
i already made it to my first goal, now i got a new one... im making it

[Anonymous No.5093256]

>>5093246
I can't draw either, not as I'd like but I still do it. Maybe one day I will, maybe I won't, what matters is that you get your own noise, your own thing out of it, and if you fail, well, a bullet to the brain can fix everything.

[Anonymous No.5093259]

>>5093256
stop fucking whining in every thread about how talentless you are because no one cares

[Anonymous No.5093261]

>>5093246
>https://imgur.com/a/iJmUMwh
bro that isn't even that good

[Anonymous No.5093275]

>>5093261
It's still better than anything I will ever draw.

[Anonymous No.5093296]

>>5093259
You seem to be under the misconception that I do things for someone else, your opinion matters the same as what an ant could ever hope to tell me.

[Anonymous No.5093305]

Going back to the basics, Keys to Drawing hand drawing, is it ok?

[Anonymous No.5093307]

>>5093237
Biting the bullet means hanging on despite the struggle and pain, it doesn't mean committing suicide.

[Anonymous No.5093318]

Beeg head Stravinsky

[Anonymous No.5093321]

>>5093186
>none of you will ever make it
Doesn't matter
>>5093220
>you will make a bad drawing
If you're a normal person, it should be impossible for you to like your own art anyway.
>>5093246
>I find no meaning in it if I'm not good at drawing
This means that you don't like drawing and have no artistic urges. You only like the idea of yourself being an artist, not actual process of producing art. You're just a vain narcissistic child. Patting yourself on the back and saying you did it will not make your parents like you, will not make your school crush notice you, and will not make you any less of a looser. Not in your own eyes, not in anyone else's.

[Anonymous No.5093323]

>>5093305
Not bad, just make sure that you are always taking a step back evaluating the picture you are drawing as a whole. It looks like you got tunnel vision on the fingers and they look out of proportion to the rest of the hand as a result

[Anonymous No.5093325]

How is this for a weekly art routine?
Mon - 100 heads 100 hands
Tues - Painting and Shading
Wed - 150 figures
Thurs - 100 heads and 100 hands again
Fri - Perspective and Composition
Sat - Painting and Shading
Sun - Fun/Do whatever day

[Anonymous No.5093326]

Tried a thin lineart but to be honest i am not a big fan of it

[Anonymous No.5093327]

>>5093323
That's what happened, I have issues with comparing things and I just forget, anything else I should be doing? How to solve this one issue?

[Anonymous No.5093330]

>>5093321
>You only like the idea of yourself being an artist, not actual process of producing art. You're just a vain narcissistic child. Patting yourself on the back and saying you did it will not make your parents like you, will not make your school crush notice you, and will not make you any less of a looser. Not in your own eyes, not in anyone else's.
I'm 23 and work in retail, then tell me what to do.
My life is so mind-numbingly devoid of meaning, I don't know what to do.

[Anonymous No.5093332]

>>5093325
This sounds like burnout in 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.5093334]

>>5093325
Complete burnout waiting to happen, consistency over intensity, then amp it up.

[Anonymous No.5093337]

>>5093326

[Anonymous No.5093339]

>>5093337
fuck

[Anonymous No.5093341]

>>5093332
>>5093334
How do I make it more consistent of a schedule?

[Anonymous No.5093352]

>>5093327
There's lots of ways. Sorry, I don't really have the time to type up everything, so instead I'll link you this great video by mangamaterials.
https://youtu.be/T3mPxN-99uI
Make sure to turn on english subtitles in the gear menu on youtube.. This video focuses on copying figures, which is a lot more advanced, but the tricks work with anything, so try not to get intimidated. The big one I like to use is looking at negative space.

[Anonymous No.5093354]

>>5093352
I did try to look at the negative space between my fingers, anyways this iteration one, I'll do some more hands, I just have an issue with size, always making things bigger or smaller, distorted, reason why I wasn't able to finish the upside down picasso despite decent accuracy at some things, just wouldn't fit.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.5093357]

>>5093330
1) Start exercising at least 1 hour a day every day, increase if needed.
2) Lay off drugs and booze, better quit altogether. Yes, that includes weed and mushrooms.
3) Make yourself a schedule and stick to it. Eat at the same time. Go to bed at the same time. Wake up at the same time.
4) Start setting small self-improvement goals for yourself, build them into your schedule. This can be anything, meeting new people, getting a gf, doing art, whatever the fuck you want to do with your life.
5) stick to your schedule, build good habits, get rid of the bad ones.
7) If you find that habits just don't stick no mater how much time passes, it's a telltale sign of mental disorder. Seek professional help.

It's not a rocket science, anon

[Anonymous No.5093360]

>>5093357
Doing all that shit won't solve his main problem: a boring life. If he does all that, all he will get is a slightly healthier boring life.

[Anonymous No.5093361]

>>5092929
Is there a program I can use that can render any shapes at any angles? Im having trouble perfecting and studying shapes in different angles.

[Anonymous No.5093373]

>>5093341
Mon - 1 heads 1 hands
Tues - Fun/Do whatever day
Wed - 1 figures
Thurs - 1 heads and 1 hands again
Fri - Fun/Do whatever day
Sat - Painting and Shading
Sun - Fun/Do whatever day

I suggest this.

[Anonymous No.5093378]

>>5093360
Then how do I NOT have a boring life? For god's sake, help me. Why I am so devoid of anything that a "good" person should be?

[Anonymous No.5093384]

>>5093373
Only 1???

[Anonymous No.5093400]

>>5093357
>1) Start exercising at least 1 hour a day every day, increase if needed.
How do I exercise if my body is a literal trainwreck? Not fat, actually skinny because I straight up don't eat enough, but my body is weak.
>2) Lay off drugs and booze, better quit altogether. Yes, that includes weed and mushrooms.
Never did drugs and booze or anything like that.
>3) Make yourself a schedule and stick to it. Eat at the same time. Go to bed at the same time. Wake up at the same time.
How if I literally just want to stay up every day and watch animu till like 1am? I don't wake up for work until 9am.
>4) Start setting small self-improvement goals for yourself, build them into your schedule. This can be anything, meeting new people, getting a gf, doing art, whatever the fuck you want to do with your life.
But it all feels so damn pointless! Even "small goals" feel so damn pointless!
>5) stick to your schedule, build good habits, get rid of the bad ones.
See above.
>7) If you find that habits just don't stick no mater how much time passes, it's a telltale sign of mental disorder. Seek professional help.
You might be right.

[Anonymous No.5093403]

>>5093378
Chose death, chose obsession, chose maddening love, chose dissociation, chose a fixation, get drunk on it, let it become you, chose despair about every single setback but the greatest joy at every hint of success

[Anonymous No.5093411]

>>5093378
I don't know what your life should be like, all I can say is that you need to THINK about what kind of life you want, and then come up with a plan for getting those things.

1) What to do as a career? what can you find fulfilling/meaningful?
2) Do you want a gf or wife? how to get one?
3) etc

And then attack those goals with a plan. That's just my opinion, anyway. The book The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand helped me figure things out when I was in a similar situation as the one you are in right now.

[Anonymous No.5093422]

>>5093400
>But it all feels so damn pointless! Even "small goals" feel so damn pointless!
Anon, I'm no doctor but you probably have depression. Therapy will help. I had to try a couple different therapists before I found one that I liked but you should give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.5093440]

>>5092969
Get off this website and stop drawing. You are legitimately too immature to be an artist

[Anonymous No.5093443]

>>5093422
>therapy
Never. I'm gonna come there and the fuckers are just gonna drown me in pills rather than help me. And I don't have enough money for a private therapist.

[Anonymous No.5093447]

>>5093384
Yes. If you're done with your schedule for the day, but feel like you can keep going, just draw whatever. Not practice, but actual drawing.

[Anonymous No.5093451]

>>5093443
the pills are what helps you dunce

[Anonymous No.5093483]

>>5093447
I was referring to practice and not full on pieces
But generally as a guideline I try to go for at least 2 hours a day since I don't really have anything else going on

[Doge No.5093496]

>>5093440
Ahem. Sorry should I go to my “‘mature” side and drop kick you? I would rather not but I can if u want. And judging by what you have said I think u may be the child here XD

[Doge No.5093501]

>>5093440
And I will never stop drawing. It’s my thing. And btw if ur so good at art and I’m so bad let’s compare and see how horrible ur art is.

[Anonymous No.5093504]

idk how to render this

[Anonymous No.5093505]

>>5093483
>2 hours
How did you plan to do 200 drawings in 2 hours? That's 1 drawing every 36 seconds.

[Anonymous No.5093508]

>>5093326
because there is no line weight no variation

[Anonymous No.5093514]

>>5093505
idk man I'm still stuck between working within a specific timeframe or doing a specific amount of something a day for my daily grind
I'm inclined to do the latter because it's a more specific goal for me to finish

[Anonymous No.5093520]

>>5093011
Looks good, what's the original? You need better shading, practice drawing skulls.

[Anonymous No.5093528]

>>5093504
add shadows?

[Anonymous No.5093531]

>>5092952
no offense but the main issue is the lack of proportions. arent they meant to be kids?

[Anonymous No.5093534]

I think Im gonna finally try to actually draw a fucking proper dorf now.

[Anonymous No.5093540]

Is this face better?

[Anonymous No.5093545]

How do you overcome the fear of failure/criticism?

[Anonymous No.5093549]

>>5092934
No wonder wojaks are all shitty.
Its the embodiment of beg as a living person.

[Anonymous No.5093551]

>>5093545
Fail/get criticism many times times.

[Anonymous No.5093552]

>>5093318
That's a beeg head

[Anonymous No.5093565]

>>5093549
No, its because creativity is dead and its better to churn and rebrand an idea a million times because fuck being original and making new, funny memes or reaction images. Just edit ur wojak to look like whatever the topic is about

[Anonymous No.5093602]

Please critique mi art. I'm in jail and I use painting as a coping mechanism.

Untitled
Acrylic and enamel on canvas
100x150

[Anonymous No.5093608]

>>5093602
Looks cool and angry

r u ok anon?

[Anonymous No.5093611]

>>5093602
Work in progress

[Anonymous No.5093614]

>>5093611
>cana
Are you chilean?

[Anonymous No.5093620]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AM I TALENTLESS FUCK

[Anonymous No.5093621]

>>5093614
Si hermano mio

[Anonymous No.5093622]

>>5093620
did this failure upside down
I FUCKING SUCK
I should be better already, and if done with construction, well its even worse\

[Anonymous No.5093624]

>>5093622

[Anonymous No.5093638]

>>5093602
>>5093611
Art like this is impossible to critique, I'm not sure what you're expecting. Go post it on social media.

[Anonymous No.5093639]

>>5093611

[Anonymous No.5093642]

[Anonymous No.5093643]

>>5093639

[Anonymous No.5093644]

>>5093638
Why is it impossible to critique?

[Anonymous No.5093651]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH NOOOOO FUCK
IM TALENTLESS I CANT DO THIS I CANT DO IT I CANT DRAW THIS FACE >>5093624
OR ANY FACE I CANT DO IT FUCK FUCK FUCK
BULLLET TO THE BRAIN
FRONTAL LOBOTOMY
I CANT DO IT
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUC K
EVERYONE ALIVE SHOULD GET A LOBOTOMY OR A BULLET I CANT TAKE IT I CANT TAKE IT I CANT TAKE IT

[Anonymous No.5093654]

>>5093644
Because it's abstract. There are no standards of quality for abstract art, thus, you can't critique it on the basis of merit. Abstract art can only be critiqued in the context of brand/marketing that surrounds it, not by itself.

[Anonymous No.5093657]

i cant DOT IT AN CANT DO IT I CANT DO IT AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH NO NO NO NO NO NO NON O NO NO NO NO NO N I CANT DO IT I CANT DO IT I CANT DO IT
ILL NEVER BE LIKE MY HEROES
NO MATTER
HOW MANY TIMES I TRY
IIIIIII FAIL AND FAIL AND KEEP FAILING
I DONT HAVE THE TALENT
HJAHAHASFFAHASHFAHFAAHOEHOVAOCJVANJOIAFHAJOIHFCVAOHCAOBAOJCBOAQ

[Anonymous No.5093659]

Is it normal to have a headache after 3 hours of studies

[Anonymous No.5093660]

Ok, so I have no idea how to draw, but I want to draw props and do technical drawing, like bridges, skyscrapers, cars, normal everyday stuff like chairs, tables etc.
What do I read to learn how to draw this shit? Not interested in drawing humans at all, just the environment surrounding them.

[Anonymous No.5093662]

>

[Anonymous No.5093665]

>>5093662
HUH, this is blue on my main monitor but then purple here

[Anonymous No.5093670]

>>5093665
It's blue.

[Anonymous No.5093672]

>>5093660

Look at the objects and draw them (try to break them down in to basic shapes), then look at your finished drawing and compare it to the object

Also maybe look up some videos on perspective if you wanna draw stuff like that

[Anonymous No.5093673]

[Anonymous No.5093674]

>>5093673
TALTNE TALENT TALENT TALENT TALETNL TALNTEALN TALNTELNL TLANTLNALE

[Anonymous No.5093680]

>>5093651
>>5093657
>>5093674
Take your pills, schizo.

[Anonymous No.5093682]

>>5093680
ILL LOBOTOMIXE ANDS ERAT YOU MOTHER YOU FUCKER TATLENTAED FUC KER

[Anonymous No.5093683]

>>5093680
Surprised that fag hasn't been b& yet

[Anonymous No.5093685]

If there are approximately 650 muscles in the human body, why does every diagram only label about 50-150 different muscles?

[Anonymous No.5093686]

>>5093683
YOU DIDNT WORK FOR YOUR DRAWINGS, YOU HAD TALENT
I WORKED FOR IT BUT FAILED

[Anonymous No.5093687]

>>5093682
Man, I don't even draw. Here, have a stick man.

[Anonymous No.5093690]

>>5093687
Why does she have a penis?

[Anonymous No.5093692]

>>5093690
Idk, I fucked it up with my mouse. Wasn't even intended to be a penis lol.

[Anonymous No.5093694]

FOUR FUCKING MONTHS
WHY ARE OTHERS BETTER THAN ME? THIS ISNT FAIR I WANT TO KILL YOU ALL

[Anonymous No.5093697]

>>5093673
Not hating, but You really like drawing this chick, huh?

[Anonymous No.5093698]

>>5093694
>four fucking months
>4 months

[Anonymous No.5093702]

>>5093698
WAHT? WHAT?

[Anonymous No.5093704]

4 MONTHS
FOUR FUCKING MONTHS I WASTED HUH
FOUR FUCKING MONTHS I DID GRINDING OF FUNDIES EH
FOUR FUCKING MONTHS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVCE BEEN DRAWING FOR LESS TIME
ARE WAY BETTER
I WANT TO FUCKING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.5093705]

>>5093694
You just need a little kick

[Anonymous No.5093708]

>>5093704
4
NOT 3 2 OR 1
NO
4 FUCKING MONTHS
LITERALLY
NO IMPROVEMENT WHATSOEVER
AHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.5093709]

[Anonymous No.5093711]

YUASA? WELL I CANT DRAW LIKE YUASA
AAHAHHAAHA NO SHIT I CANT

[Anonymous No.5093717]

KISHIRO? NO I CANT EITHER HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH FUCK

[Anonymous No.5093721]

MAYBVE I SHOULD KILL MY HEORES YES
HAHAHAHH MAYBE I SHOULD SHOOT THEM HJAHAAHAHAHH ALL OF THEM AHAHAHHAH EYS
FUCK NO
I CANT DO THIS
I COULD GET AWAY WITH ONE BUT ALL OF THEM? IMPOSSIBLE

[Anonymous No.5093722]

>>5093697
Yes. She is a MC from a comic we are working on at my school.

This is the 1st time I've ever went 100% digital. Just checking to see if I'm doing anything wrong. Been using a lot of tuts to try and get through this.

[Anonymous No.5093726]

MAYBE I SHOULD DO IT YES
AS REVENGE ON ART FOR NOT GIVING ME TALENT ILL KILL ONE OF MY HEROES, A TALENTED ONE
SINCE THE ONLY ONES ALIVE ARE ALL JAPANSESE I GUESS IM FORCED TO USE A KNIFE
THIS COULD BE WORTH IT YES AYES YES BUT THE PANDEMIC FUCKED UP TRAVEL

[Anonymous No.5093730]

MAYBE I SHOULD KILL YUASA, STAB HIM IN THE THROAT AS REVENGE ON ART FOR NOT GIVING ME TALENT
AKIRA GUY? ALITA GUY? GITS? IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THEM I GUES AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
YES YETS YTESYAAGDA S E TASZ YTEASA YAE S

[Anonymous No.5093732]

>>5093730
cringe

[Anonymous No.5093733]

THE PANDEMIC MESSED UP TRAVEL MAYTBE I SHOULDNT DO THIS BUT I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH KILLING MYSELF, I MJUST A MEAT COMPUTER AND SO ARE THEM, MY HEROES ARE ALL ALKING MEAT I CAN JUST KILL IF I WANT

[Anonymous No.5093735]

Pls help him, somebody.
I would, but I'm laughing my ass of at how autistic one can be.

[Anonymous No.5093739]

Too bad /ic/ has no mods.

[Anonymous No.5093740]

IM JUST A MEAT COMPUTER LIFE HAS NO VALUE BULLET TO THE HAEAD AN YOU RE GONE
SO I CAN DO IT
SO WHICH ONE SHOULD I KILL
>>5093732
>>5093735
WHICHI ONE OF MY HEROES SHOULD I KILL ONCE TRAVEL IS NORMAL AGAIN?
PICK ONE MAYBE ILL CONSIDER IT

[Anonymous No.5093741]

>>5093740
you should take your meds

[Anonymous No.5093743]

IM JUST A MEAT COMPUTER THEY ARE JUST MEAT COMPUTERS NO WORTH AT ALL
ILL MATTER IN ART AS A BOOGEYMAN IF I DO THIS
YES
REVENGE
ON EVERYONE WHO HAS MORE TALENT THAN ME, I MUST KILL THE TALENTED CLEANSE THE WORLD OF THEIR SKILL
I HAVE TYO PICK ONEM I CAN ONLY KILL ONE
>>5093741
I CAN ONLY KILL ONE OF MY HEROES PICK ONE

[Anonymous No.5093744]

>>5093620
>>5093622
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>>5093674
>>5093682
>>5093686
>>5093694
>>5093702
>>5093704
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>>5093709
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>>5093730
>>5093733
>>5093740
dude, that is like, so cool!

[Anonymous No.5093745]

MURDER SUICIDE
YESSSSSS
THAT IS THE PLANT
MOST SUCCESFUL ENDEAVOR
YUASA USED TO HOLD SHOWINGS FFOR FANS MAYBE I CAN GET HIM THERE

[Anonymous No.5093747]

>>5093745

[Anonymous No.5093748]

NO ONE EXPECTS THIS SECURITY IS GOING TO BE LOW
IM A GOD A GOD OF REVENGE AND HATRED

[Anonymous No.5093749]

>>5093748

[Anonymous No.5093750]

ART NEVER LOVED ME DESPITE ME LOVING IT ALL MY LIFE
GAVE ME NO TALENT NO SKILL ONLY DREAMS BUT IF I DO THIS THEN I ASCEND ABOVE ART
YOU RULE OVER ME NO MORE
IM A GOD I FEEL LIKE A GOD I FEEL VIBRATIONS ALL OVER IM EXPANDING ON ALL DIRECTIONS MY BODY IS NOT MY BODY

[Anonymous No.5093754]

NOONE HAS EVER DONE THIS
NO ONE HAS EVER CONSIDERED
ID BE THE FIRST ONE
ID BE THE FIRST GOD TO GET REENGE ON ART

[Anonymous No.5093755]

>>5093750
>>5093754

[Anonymous No.5093757]

OR I COULD KILL THAT MUSICIAN GIRL, NO ONE CAN STOP ME

KILL ME? I CRAVE DEATH
KILL YOU? I WANT IT NONETHELESS
I HAVE TO CHOOSE I CAN ONLY DO ONE I CAN ONLY DIE ONCE
THAT MUSICIAN GIRL OR ONE OF MY HEROES

[Anonymous No.5093758]

>I get no critique because schizo took away all attention

[Anonymous No.5093759]

WITH HER I CAN USE A GUN SO THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE, THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE THAT SAVES ME TROUBLE

[Anonymous No.5093760]

>>5093757
dude that pic is really cool! did you draw it?

[Anonymous No.5093761]

SO THATS THE EASY CHOICE NO NO NO NO I WOULD NEVER DO THAT I COULD NEVER DO THAT
UNLESS
NO
ART WONT SUFFER BECAUSE OD THAT IT WONT CARE BUT I KILL ONE OF MY HEREOS I BECOME A BOOGEYMAN

[Anonymous No.5093763]

WHY DOES HE SAYS THE THING HE SAYS> SWEET DULCINEA
YUASA KISHIRO OTOMO SHIROW
IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THEM

[Anonymous No.5093766]

WHAT DOES HE WANT OF ME?
I COULD DO IT WHO CAN STOP A GOD?

EVEN THE SONG THAT PLAYS ON THE BACKGROUND IS SENDING ME A MESSAGE ABOUT THIS

[Anonymous No.5093771]

DON QUIXOTE DE LA MANCHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.5093774]

>>5093763
>>5093761
>>5093766
>>5093771

how much time did you spend drawing? you seem like the type of person that only draws for four months then give up because they didn't become the new Michelangelo

[Anonymous No.5093776]

THIS IS MY QUEST
SPIRITUAL ARMOR MADE OF BLOOD
DELIVER ME TO MY QUEST
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5093774
>T. YUASA
YOURE DEAD HAHAHAAHHAH WAIT UNTIL I GET YOU
YOURE FUCKING DEAD

[Anonymous No.5093780]

>>5093774
>T. YUASA
THERES NO SAVING YOU NOW, ONCE TRAVEL BECOMES NORMAL IM KILLING YOU ITS OVER FOR YOU IM TELLING YOU ITS OVER FOR YOU
ENJOY LIFE WHILE IT LASTS IM GOING TO KILL YOU
ALWAYS LOVED TO TALK ABOUT TALENT VS HARD WORK IN YOUR ART, HUH? MOCKING ME? I KNEW YOU WERE MOCKING ME ALL ALONG YET I CALLED YOU MY HERO, ONCE TRAVEL IS NORMAL ILL SHOW YOU ILL SHOW YOU YOU FUCKER

[Anonymous No.5093783]

>>5093774
>T. YTUASA
NOTHING IS GOING TO SAVE YOU
NO ONE EXPECTS IT
NO ONE WOULD DARE TO EXPECT IT
THIS IS HOW ILL KILL YOU
ILL BE WAITING UNTIL YOUT NEXT SHOWING I SWEAR YOURE FUCKING DEAD

[Anonymous No.5093784]

>>5093147
Attempt two.
Does it look like a dwarf? Are the proportions better? I think the problem is now the pose sucks but I can redraw it again.

[Anonymous No.5093787]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHH YES THAT GUY COMPLETELY FUCKED KOANI
IM GOING TO BE THE SAME IM GOING TO BECOME A DEMON
>>5093784
SILENCE TALENTED FUCK
ARE YOU PERHAPS A STUDENT OF YUASA????????????????????????????????????

[Anonymous No.5093788]

>>5093787

[Anonymous No.5093792]

IM A DEMON A TALENTLESS DEMON
THE MUSICIAN GIRL OR MASAAKI YUASA?
MASAAKI YUASA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO MOCKED ME, SO I MUST SHOW HIM THE DEMON I AM

[Anonymous No.5093794]

>>5093783
>>5093780
>>5093776
unironically, who the fuck is YUASA??

[Anonymous No.5093798]

>>5093794
ONCE I KILL YOU AND KILL MYSELF
MAYBE ILL EARN MYSELF A SPOT IN THE ARS GOETIA, A NEWBORN DEMON

[Anonymous No.5093802]

>>5093784
Bottom half looks good, but i'm too /beg/ to pinpoint what feels off about the top
I kinda wanna say try making the arms thicker and/or shortening the torso slightly?

[Anonymous No.5093805]

>>5093794
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaaki_Yuasa

[Anonymous No.5093809]

IM TALENTLESS RIGHT? I CANT SEEM TO IMPROVE NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY
>>5093774
NOT EVEN DEMONS COULD FIND MY TALENT, IM DONE FOR

[Anonymous No.5093810]

>>5093798
>>5093792
>>5093787
can the jannies do their job and ban this guy already?

[Anonymous No.5093814]

>>5093802
>I kinda wanna say try making the arms thicker and/or shortening the torso slightly?
Yeah thats it. I gotta make the arms bigger and make him a tad bit wider. Also better arm pose.
Thanks

[Anonymous No.5093815]

>>5093774
YOURE FUCKING DEAD YUASA IF I CANT DRAW AND PAINT LIKE YOU AND THE OTHERS THEN I MUST PICK DEATH FOR BOTH OF US
>>5093810
ALREADY AFRAID YUASA? SHAKING? FUCKING BITCH

[Anonymous No.5093817]

>>5093810
I ALREADY TOLD YOU YUASA, DEAL WITH DEATH NOW, IM NOT FUCKING AROUND, MAKE PEACE WITH THE FACT THAT IM GOING TO END YOU BECAUSE YOU MOCKED ME OVER ME BEING TALENTLESS
IM TELLING YOU YUASA IM AFRAID ITS OVER FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.5093821]

>>5093810
YUASA LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE, IF I KILL YOU YOULL SAVE ONE OF THE OTHERS FROM DEATH, THIS IS THE WAY THINGS WORK, IM JUST A DEMON
YUASA, DONT BE AFRAID AND DONT LASH OUT HERE, DONT BLAME ME BLAME ART FOR NOT GIVING ME TALENT

[Anonymous No.5093827]

>>5093810
LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE PEOPLE WILL TAKE MORE PRECAUTIONS THANKS TO BOTH OF OUR DEATHS, WE WILL EVOLVE AND THEY WILL BE LEFT BEHIND
THE UNWORTHY

[Anonymous No.5093832]

>>5093810
YOUR ART IS FREE AND UNCARING, A MARVELOUS EXPLOSION OF FEELINGS, JUST LIKE ME YET YOU MOCKED ME, IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN YUASA AND YOU MOCKED ME OVER HAVING NO TALENT
guess I have to kill you now

[Anonymous No.5093839]

>>5093810
Im just like Lucifer, Yuasa, chained and stuck in Hell, the last ring, ICE, FROZEN and chained here by a malevolent entity, your art is free but your body is human like everyone else, this can't be, I'll help you take on your true form, a winged dragon, a pattern, blood is life and love, blood is art.

[Anonymous No.5093858]

>>5093660
Study perspective and compositions, and learn to render different textures and materials, that's literally the only thing you need. Start with getting a good resource on perspective and learning that.

[Anonymous No.5093877]

>>5093784
It's better, but bend leg and arm are both messed up. You should draw him naked, then draw clothes on top on a separate layer.

[Anonymous No.5093916]

What did the artist do to make the background look like this? Did she take a picture and make it blurry or something?

[Anonymous No.5093926]

>>5092929
Is it okay to trace if I'm focusing on coloring/shading?

[Anonymous No.5093933]

>>5093926
No, because without understanding how 3d form works, your shading will look flat and shape will be wrong, like in this image.

[Anonymous No.5093944]

holy fucking shit ive never seen a thread get derailed this hard

[Anonymous No.5093946]

>>5093031
Her smile is awkward but I would nut to this (for free)

[Anonymous No.5093947]

>>5093944
Not that hard when you got no mods.

[Anonymous No.5093951]

>>5093947
even with mods, the problem are the newfags/retards that keep replying to him

[Anonymous No.5093952]

>>5093933
Okay :(

[Anonymous No.5093954]

>>5093916
yep

[Anonymous No.5093960]

I want to learn to draw. To this end, I have decided that from now on, I am going to start the day by creating one drawing each morning when I wake up. This is day 2. It took me around 30-45 minutes. Any advice for improvement?

[Anonymous No.5093962]

>>5093960
Sorry for sideways pic. It was rightside up on my computer so IDK why it flipped.

[Anonymous No.5093963]

Second day of loomis from absolute beginner.

[Anonymous No.5093969]

>>5093960
Nah, this is a good plan. If you stick to it, you will get to >>5093784 level in 6-8 years. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.5093970]

>>5093963
Take eraser tool and clean up excess lines or ambiguous ones. Your lines should have a clear start and finish without half-opaque ones weaving through opaque ones.

[Anonymous No.5093973]

>>5093963
Learn not only vertical, but also horizontal proportions.

[Anonymous No.5093975]

>>5093960
>I want to learn to draw
What would you like to draw? And to what degree?

[Anonymous No.5093978]

[Anonymous No.5093981]

>>5093978
6 months of symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.5093982]

Which muscles are important to learn? I'm having difficulty understanding how many out of the 640 I should know.

[Anonymous No.5093983]

>>5093969
Thanks anon! I will post more in the future.
>>5093975
I want to learn to draw game concept art based on stuff I imagine in my mind.

[Anonymous No.5093990]

>>5093973
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.5093994]

>>5093981
literally just the eyes but ok

[Anonymous No.5093996]

>>5093981
pyw

[Anonymous No.5093999]

>>5093982
You need to know muscle groups, no individual muscles.

[Anonymous No.5094003]

My wife

[Anonymous No.5094008]

Am I the only that's annoyed by how many hentai artists literally do not know how to draw a pussy?
That includes things that >>5093035 already said, but in general, so many of them literally do not know how to draw a vagina.
>they draw the clitoris outside
>most of them draw cunny on an adult woman
>none of them realize how the labia majora/minora look like or where they're placed

[Anonymous No.5094016]

>>5093990
For average male, shoulders are 2 heads wide, the rest of the body is almost the same. Very little waist going on.

[Anonymous No.5094018]

>>5093999
Why the muscle groups over the individual names?

[Anonymous No.5094019]

How much value is there in just copying anime art? I wanna draw similarly but I have no real clue of how to progress there so I just copy and copy pieces that I like. I know the real answer is loomis and grinding fundies but shit that gets so dry sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5094021]

Artist of pic-rel, how can I stalk you. I want to see the final piece but I don't want to come here for a long time.

[Anonymous No.5094022]

>>5094019
reference and original work

[Anonymous No.5094023]

>>5093990
>>5094016
Side view, KL - heads. From the front limbs are thinner, but not by much. Refer to the other image I posted.

[Anonymous No.5094032]

>>5094019
>>5094022
You're limiting your ability to create new art by blindly copying anime without understanding how the body works and how it was stylized vs being realistic. I want to draw cartoons, but still know I have to smartly study the fundamentals. You don't need to mindlessly grind the fundamentals like a machine either, plan it smart and you'll see improvement.

[Anonymous No.5094035]

>>5094019
It's a good value if you want to learn to copy anime art. For any other purpose it's worthless
>I know the real answer is loomis and grinding fundies.
This is not the only answer. You can always reinvent the wheel, if you don't want to follow instructions. Just start drawing from imagination, in a couple of years you will get good enough to realize why Loomis is useful and why you need to suck it up and learn fundies.

[Anonymous No.5094039]

>>5093969
pls no bully my dorf.

[Anonymous No.5094040]

>>5093063
>tinder
I heard that the odds are pretty bad, for man at least.

[Anonymous No.5094049]

>>5094023
Thank you, very helpful. Do you have any tips for drawing the female figure?

[Anonymous No.5094054]

>>5094018
Most muscles go together in groups, so its pointless to memorize all of them.

[Anonymous No.5094055]

>>5094019
lets say that you earn 10 exp for each complete copy you make while grinding fundies gives you 5k every hour

[Anonymous No.5094056]

>>5094055
No him but is imagination drawing considered grinding fundies?

[Anonymous No.5094059]

>>5094032
>>5094035
How exactly is it different from doing figure drawing with actual references, or copying hundreds and hundreds of gesture poses, or grinding still life drawings? I understand that if I want to draw humans I should focus on gesture and anatomy and other figure drawing fundamentals, and I have plans on it, but I don't see how that will help in drawing anime faces.
Either way I'm not disputing you guys. If you say copying isn't much good then I'll find another way to practice.

[Anonymous No.5094064]

>>5094059
You need to know the rules before you can bend them to your will. Anime is stylized and anime artists did the fundamentals too.

[Anonymous No.5094065]

>>5094049
Female figure. Look at how the hips are wider than the shoulders and there's more pronounced waist.

[Anonymous No.5094069]

>>5094049
>>5094065
Side view

[Anonymous No.5094070]

>>5094054
Is knowing the insertions, antagonists, and the rest also important?

[Anonymous No.5094071]

>>5094049
>>5094065
>>5094069
Difference between males and females. Don't focus on copying the body shape in these images, btw. Focus on thickness/length of your torso and limbs.

[Anonymous No.5094078]

>>5094070
Probably, but I don't.

[Anonymous No.5094086]

Anything I could fix before fully commiting?

[Anonymous No.5094087]

newfag here, wasn't sure if this was better suited for this thread or the tablet thread.

but, is this a decent tablet for a beginner? i cant imagine i'll be doing a ton of drawing, but i'd like a tablet just for fun really. this one was recommended to me by a friend.

[Anonymous No.5094093]

>>5094087
I like the huion h610, but to be fair, I've never used anything else. Also, you should buy your tablet on ebay, chinese brands are always 10-15 dollars cheaper than on amazon.

[Anonymous No.5094094]

>>5094086
How good was this game? Thinking of buying

[Anonymous No.5094097]

>>5094056
grinding fundies from imagination yes, just drawing whatever comes to your mind it's not

[Anonymous No.5094102]

>>5094021
>tfw this is the final
>tfw colours scare me

I'm sorry to disappoint you anon

[Anonymous No.5094104]

>>5094102
Blog anon

[Anonymous No.5094110]

>>5094104
But I only post my warhammer there.

[Anonymous No.5094113]

>>5094110
I like Warhammer.

[Anonymous No.5094115]

>>5094097
Ok cool. I do a lot of gesture and figures from imaginations so I guess thats grinding fundies? (while cross checking real photos to check if anythings off)

[Anonymous No.5094117]

refs from >>5086194
What do I need to work on? Other than measurements.

[Anonymous No.5094127]

>>5093545
Anyone have any advice?

[Anonymous No.5094128]

>>5094117
proportions is you biggest weakness in those drawings. Your heads seems small and the torsos seems too big.

[Anonymous No.5094130]

>>5094086
The only shit I can think of is the left hand. Thumb looks like it's bending backwards, it needs to go forward. Add knuckles/bend to other fingers so they don't look as unfinished. Show the pinkie more. You should also make perspective on this arm clearer. I tried to emphasize the elbow to do this, not sure if it works.
Sorry for trash paintover, good work overall.

[Anonymous No.5094133]

>>5094113
Wayward_stargazer on insta

You're not the first person to ask so I might make one to document my progress if there actually is interest.

[Anonymous No.5094139]

>>5094064
Every time I read this quote I can't help but want to call bullshit on it even though I have no right to. I can't imagine every cartoonist or anime artist forced themselves to only grind and master realistic figures and faces before they transitioned into stylized drawing. I imagine stylized drawing is a skill like any other and also needs to be trained.

[Doge No.5094147]

>>5093694
I want to kill most of you also. Most of this community are under the age requirement or not true artists who come here to be fags.

[Anonymous No.5094153]

I think im starting to get if I think of dwarf as bloatmaxx manlets but Im too tired to continue. Goodnight /beg/

[Anonymous No.5094156]

>>5094094
It's pretty good albeit it's pretty short. The music slaps too.

>>5094130
I see what you mean. Thanks bud! I'll try to fix it later

[Anonymous No.5094159]

anyone have any resources for drawing realism? not necessarily photorrealistic but i'd really like to see how artists deal with the different details and textures. i feel my drawings look a bit stale without that kind of support. That and its just bad im general. Im a beg after all.

[Anonymous No.5094161]

>>5094147
> not true artists who come here to be fags
Harsh words

[Anonymous No.5094178]

>>5094139
Are you familiar with Masakazu Katsura? Left is his manga, right is when he wants to show-off.
Obviously, not every anime artist has grinded realistic art. Most of them didn't. But most of them are trash. The good ones did, though. You want to draw like Yusuke Murata, you need to learn your fundies.
Also, it's a matter of being able to draw something yourself. Fundies allow you to draw from imagination, copying reference doesn't.

[Anonymous No.5094186]

>>5094147
> mentally retarded 14 year olds nibba
Look at your "ART" dude. Yikes

[Anonymous No.5094190]

>>5094161
>>5094186
Stop feeding, newfags.

[Anonymous No.5094192]

when do we get to draw cartoons

[Doge No.5094194]

[Doge No.5094195]

>>5094194
Did a quick perspective sketch. How is it?

[Anonymous No.5094205]

>>5094195
What's the logic behind making red lines straight and green lines at an angle? Green lines should be straight too.

[Anonymous No.5094220]

hows my progress?

[Anonymous No.5094221]

>>5094087
yeah its fine. i'd say a bit small but if you're not drawing a lot its fine

[Anonymous No.5094227]

>>5094195
Not good anon. The buildings at the top all correspond roughly to one vanishing point but the ones at the bottom are all over the place.

[Anonymous No.5094229]

>>5094139
Call bullshit all you want, and then wonder why your animu bodies look like they're made out of randomly squeezed toothpaste tubes.
We know exactly what happens when you neglect figure drawing, because that was the state of nearly all hentai prior to early 2000s/late 90s. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.5094233]

are we gonna draw cartoons or not

[Anonymous No.5094234]

>>5094233
just b urself

[Anonymous No.5094235]

>>5094233
of course

[Anonymous No.5094237]

>>5094233
Yes.

[Anonymous No.5094241]

First attempt at drawing a girl in any way shape or form. How do you get the lines to look better? Whats wrong with the anatomy?

[Anonymous No.5094247]

>>5094159
please.

[Anonymous No.5094249]

>>5094220
solid, the construction on the right is a lot better

[Anonymous No.5094250]

>>5094241
don't think about anatomy yet
just focus on getting the general shape and proportions right
better lines generally come from confidence and experience
learn the simple 3d forms very well (mannequinization) then you will be able to start adding anatomy onto that

[Anonymous No.5094258]

>>5094247
I have this, if you need it.
https://www.amazon.com/How-Render-fundamentals-shadow-reflectivity/dp/1933492961
Also, Scott Robertson has a Youtube channel, where he shows his process:
https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign/videos

[Anonymous No.5094268]

>>5094003
Every time I draw something I like it looks weird when I look at it again a few hours later.

[Anonymous No.5094280]

>>5094258
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.5094282]

how the fuck do i break the habit of getting ahead of myself
i always start coloring before i refine the sketch

[Anonymous No.5094289]

I'm getting through Michael hampton and the head is stumping me. no matter what I try I can't get rotation and perspective right and my skulls look 2d too. Should i be studying from portrait references now?

[Anonymous No.5094292]

>>5094289
>Should i be studying from portrait references now?
No! Do self portraits from the mirror.

[Anonymous No.5094294]

>>5094292
I don't... own a mirror setup that can support that i only have one in the bathroom.

[Anonymous No.5094301]

>>5094294
Do you have a phone or a tablet with a front camera? The bigger the screen, the better. Don't take picture, use it in the mirror mode.

[Anonymous No.5094304]

>>5094205
>>5094194
stop overcomplicating perspective, take a step back and think logically about your drawing and what you want to project vs what you are projecting. is this man supposed to be a giant? are the buildings on the bottom supposed to be half the height of the others? sure, horizon line and vanishing points are ultimately what's going to make your drawings the most accurate perspective wise, but before that I think it's more important to think about things in a more practical way.

[Anonymous No.5094307]

>>5094301
is that really the way? ok ill try that! thanks

[Anonymous No.5094314]

>>5094220
straight to ink? i think the progress is great, how long between the two?

[Anonymous No.5094351]

>>5094133
Akechi-kun acts up again huh.

[Anonymous No.5094358]

I'm trying to get better at anime heads, any advice?
These are from imagination
I'm using sketchfab to rotate heads and check my work.

[Anonymous No.5094361]

>>5094358
use reference

[Anonymous No.5094362]

4 MONTHS MASTURBATED

[Anonymous No.5094363]

>>5094314
Thank you. I hate to say it but thats about 7 months progress. A lot longer than I feel like it should have taken. I consistently made slight improvements in portraiture purely drawing from reference until a month ago when I started Marco Bucci’s Understanding the Head course which really helped a lot of things click into place.

[Anonymous No.5094394]

>>5094351
>Akechi-kun
Who?

[Anonymous No.5094405]

>>5094394
Akechi / 4 months wasted / talentless schizo
>>5094133
I like you and the anon with goblin fetish.

[Anonymous No.5094411]

>>5094405
>Akechi / 4 months wasted / talentless schizo

Ahh so I guess that's the name of the character he larps with? Cool.

>goblin fetish
He's a man of taste. I wish him luck in his endeavours.

[Anonymous No.5094419]

>>5094361
i tried that before but i end up just copying, how can i commit to memory if all i do is copy

[Anonymous No.5094420]

[Anonymous No.5094423]

Yikes

[Anonymous No.5094429]

>>5094420
Shades and highlights hues are Lil off, but overall, pretty good.

Do you post any where?

[Anonymous No.5094438]

Crabs gonna crabs

[Anonymous No.5094442]

>>5093325
you will not learn anything trying to do 100 studies in a day, that's ludicrous

[Anonymous No.5094446]

>>5093325
Give it a try and post your results.

[Anonymous No.5094457]

>>5093514
try something like this:
monday: 10 to 20 legs
tuesday: 10 to 20 arms
wednesday: 10 to 20 torsos
thursday: 10 to 20 shoulder girdles
friday: figures
saturday: draw whatever you want
sunday: nothing

when doing a study, i like to go over the object of study 3 times. the first time laying in the major shapes, the second time adding details and countour lines, the third time adding in light and shadow. so your mind contemplates the form 3 times per study. if you do 10 studies of arms, your mind will contemplate the forms of the arm 30 times.
but you can't just draw what you see. you'll eventually also have to try to understand the anatomical stuff underneath.
one thing that's helpful is to pick a bone and a group of muscles and do several studies of the bone and the muscles and fat near it to lock the anatomy into your mind. so you would not only do a study of the leg, but instead of rendering skin on top of it, you would put in the anatomy. say you want to understand the hip bone well (the pelvis).
you do your studies of the pelvis (bone) from reference, going over this weird ass bone 3 times per study - with an initial layin, contour lines and light and shadow. make sure you get frontal, side and 3/4 views of the pelvis to study from because its shape is odd, and note its highest and widest points which are extremely helpful pieces of knowledge for placing and orienting it within a body.
then you try to understand how the muscles - gluteus medius, gluteus maximus, tensor fascia lata, sartorius, the obliques above, the fat pads near the back top of the pelvis etc. - all connect to and around the pelvis and form the shapes you see with skin over them.
this is difficult in the case of the pelvis because of its odd shape and variety of muscles. but through enough frustration and practice, you'll eventually be able to "see" the pelvis and femur infallibly through the muscle and skin. and so on for other parts of the body.

[Anonymous No.5094459]

>>5092929
How do I start coloring this?

[Anonymous No.5094461]

>>5094457
Too long didn't read.

[Anonymous No.5094471]

>>5093660
you need the cone

[Anonymous No.5094472]

Hey, how's this look? It's been a long time since I've painted and this is my first post around here.

[Anonymous No.5094474]

>>5094429
About that. Should I have worried about when I'm going to try and grayscale it in the end?

[Anonymous No.5094475]

>>5093960
pick up a book called "you can draw in 30 days"

[Anonymous No.5094478]

>>5094419
what are you committing to memory if you're not referencing?

[Anonymous No.5094486]

>>5094472
Did you use a filter?

[Anonymous No.5094487]

>>5094429
About that. Should I have worried about that when I'm going to try and grayscale it in the end? Will that mess things up? I just want values and what not. The color doesn't matter in the end, at least I think it won't.

[Anonymous No.5094494]

>>5094478
I mean like I draw from my imagination then refference and see if it's wrong and i take what i fixed up into memory.
Is that a bad idea?
Should I draw from ref to begin with?
How do I know if i properly learnt it and not just copied it?

[Anonymous No.5094497]

Boys , i got ranked in pixiv #67.
Does that mean i am not a beg anymore? T.T

[Anonymous No.5094499]

>>5094494
Youtube videos are more useful than advice-fags here. At least you can see the process.

[Anonymous No.5094501]

>>5094494
yeah drawing from ref or life is always the best. if you're going over the forms then you're learning. try not copying for instance, but reducing the body to cylinders and boxes for instance. this is not copying, but you are using a reference, and learning to think about proportion and internalizing the proportions of the body. if you wanted to learn about the proportions of the body not from reference, how would you do that without a reference? the same is true for anatomy. the reference is a guide, not something you copy exactly, but analyze and internalize.

[Anonymous No.5094523]

>>5094486
nope but it is digital. Took me about 20 hours I believe

[Anonymous No.5094532]

>>5094487
Y the fuck do I wanna remove all the color? And if you did, I'm not sure how that’d turn out.

[Anonymous No.5094533]

Ok I think I'm getting the hand of values and sketching in general. I also hate using liquify so much. If I drew on my sketchpad it won't look as good.

[Anonymous No.5094619]

I improved on the face a lot in my opinion. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5094632]

>>5094619
She has a really weak chin.

[Anonymous No.5094634]

>>5094619
is she a bodybuilder? why is her neck as thick as her head is wide?

[Anonymous No.5094650]

>>5094634
its not?

[Anonymous No.5094659]

>>5094008
real vaginas are disgusting

[Anonymous No.5094660]

>>5094650
keep it the same width as it is there, but move the neck backwards towards the back of the skull. the neck connects to the back of the skull much higher up. this will reveal more of the chin

[Anonymous No.5094669]

>>5094619
Your style is very unappealing.

[Anonymous No.5094677]

>>5094669
So is yours.

[Anonymous No.5094680]

>>5094677
Cope faggot. I just used the lasso tool.

[Anonymous No.5094682]

>>5094669
no offense but i like mine better

[Anonymous No.5094684]

>>5094677
You obviously skipped manga-materials. The face looks flat like an 8 year old's chest.

[Anonymous No.5094685]

>>5094680
I will if you learn to draw better.

[Anonymous No.5094690]

>>5094684
Never said either looked good. But MFs stay trynna redline shit but suck themselves.

[Anonymous No.5094691]

>>5094690
Y don't you do it then? I am sure you can polish a turd.

[Anonymous No.5094692]

>>5094691
Post zour work faggot

[Anonymous No.5094695]

>>5094691
I suck at drawing, but I'm getting sick of seeing people try to redraw shit in these threads only to make shit just as bad, but in a new style.

[Anonymous No.5094700]

>>5094695
I didn't redraw shit. I used the manga-material head and the lasso tool to move things around. Yours looks like garbage. How can I make something beautiful out of a pile of cow dump.

[Anonymous No.5094702]

I'm glad this pompous slew of horrible redlining is being called out more, around here. It needs to stop.

[Anonymous No.5094703]

>>5094700
Your input is invalid till you post your work

[Anonymous No.5094708]

>>5094702
>>5094703
Faggots got ass-blasted. Stay in your hell forever.

[Anonymous No.5094709]

>>5094700
I'm not the artist who drew that. Just calling out this bullshit.

Just concentrate on improving before trying to "fix" other people's shit. Hell, even the one who drew it said he didn't like yur shit.

[Anonymous No.5094712]

I fucking hate this site

[Anonymous No.5094713]

>>5094709
"Improve"
You don't need to be CSR to tell that something's stink. I just pity you. Too blind.

[Anonymous No.5094717]

>>5094713
You don't have to be. But if you suck, don't try and repair other people's shit. Just give suggestions and critiques.
That's my advice.

[Anonymous No.5094719]

>>5094717
That's my suggestion. He needs manga-material and a new style.

[Anonymous No.5094722]

>>5094719
"new stlye" so if you don't like a style noone should draw in it? I like it this style thats why I am drawing it. And don't try to correct someone elses work if you never held a pencil.

[Anonymous No.5094725]

>>5094722
Manga Material / Face Summary
My last shred of pity for you.

[Anonymous No.5094906]

What do I gain from knowing every single individual muscle in the human body? When would I need that deep level of detail or even want it?

[Anonymous No.5094968]

>>5094906
id imagine you really don’t have to if you get good enough at studying from reference, but in my experiment doing individual study for forms helps me understand my references better.
But if you aren’t interested in drawing muscley people I wouldn’t worry about it as long as you still are focusing hard on figure drawing

[Anonymous No.5094972]

>>5094968
experience not experiment fug

[Anonymous No.5094987]

>>5094906
Pharmaceutical students barely pass anatomy courses.

[Anonymous No.5095023]

I don't know how to progress beyond where I am. I feel like I have a great understanding of the fundamentals and can draw pretty much anything (with a fair degree of accuracy, not claiming to be DaVinci or anything) - but at the same time have no clue on what to actually draw.

I'm hugely passionate about game development and learned art mostly to supplement that, but I'm still not sure how to apply everything I learned into actual artwork. Any suggestions on how to break out of this loop?

[Anonymous No.5095027]

I'm not at your level in art, but it sounds to me like you're competent enough to commit to something like a project. I imagine taking on a project would help you gain better understanding of whatever it is that you're taking on.

[Anonymous No.5095035]

>>5095023
what do you find cool? what do you find beautiful? what artists, stories, emotions, themes, ideas, inspire you? thats where i draw my inspiration from, but i am very autistic with a very personally refined taste so i am acutely aware of what i like

[Anonymous No.5095049]

>>5095035
Honestly, everything and anything. I've tried to refine my interests down to thinking of the practical application of my art (ie, what kind of aesthetic I'd like to produce in games, which artists I'd hire to work on a project if I had the budget, and so on) but I get hung up a lot over committing to any one thing, especially stylisation vs realism.

I feel like if I could just commit to something I'd start making rapid progress again but it's so hard getting to that point for some reason...

[Anonymous No.5095151]

>>5094619
As much as >>5094669 anon's comment about style is retarded, the chin edit is spot on. When in doubt, or something looks horribly wrong, look at the reference

[Anonymous No.5095155]

I am new to drawing, pic related is my first attempt at drawing in a manga style. What are the most obvious points I need to improve?

[Anonymous No.5095165]

>>5095155
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.5095171]

>>5095165
n-no anon
no bully pls

[Anonymous No.5095197]

>>5095155
>What are the most obvious points I need to improve?
1. Anatomy. Start by learning to draw realistic skull from reference, preferably real skull
2. Hair texture and shape. Learn to draw hair
3. Line economy
4. Practice cleaner cross-hatching and hatching in general. Yours is very messy
5. Practice cleaner lines

[Anonymous No.5095208]

>>5095197
>1. Anatomy. Start by learning to draw realistic skull from reference, preferably real skull
I've been trying to get around this, since I only want to draw manga, but I guess I'll have to do it now.
>3. Line economy
What does this mea
>4. Practice cleaner cross-hatching and hatching in general. Yours is very messy
Will do.
>5. Practice cleaner lines
How is this different from 3.?
Thanks for the feedback anon

[Anonymous No.5095224]

WIP but does his left leg and leg arm look broken or off?

[Anonymous No.5095226]

>>5094968
>>5094906
>>5094987
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.5095234]

>>5095226
Retardation

[Anonymous No.5095242]

>>5095208
>What does this mea
Show more with less lines, wary the thickness of your lines, leave gaps in your lines to indicate shape.
I think you would benefit from varying thickness in particular, but also just from using less random lines and less random cross-hatching.
>How is this different from 3.?
I just meant, practice making your lines more neat.

[Anonymous No.5095251]

when is it time to actually give up

[Anonymous No.5095264]

>>5095224
Looks like you're trying to do foreshortening on his left arm, but it doesn't work. It also looks like he's stepping to the side with his left leg, but his body stays straight. That's not how that works. You should indicate the torso twist.

[Anonymous No.5095281]

>>5094420
If you are who I think you are, then the amount you have improved over time is fascinating.

[Anonymous No.5095283]

>>5095242
Thanks for clarifying anon

[Anonymous No.5095314]

>>5095264
Thanks. Ill twist the torso by changing the contour of his square armour shit and change the form of his torso a bit and see If i can figure out how to foreshorten his arm properly.

[Anonymous No.5095370]

>>5095234
What you all suffer from? Yes.

[Anonymous No.5095392]

>>5095314
Better? I cannot figure out how to foreshorten the arm, so I guess I know what I'll be grinding later.

[Anonymous No.5095406]

Feedback greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.5095409]

>>5095392
Yeah, this is better. Also, another small point - seeing crossbow directly from the top like this looks very cartonish, as this would almost never happen IRL I think you should angle it slightly, this should make your whole left hand look more natural.

[Anonymous No.5095455]

new thread >>5095452
new thread >>5095452
new thread >>5095452

[Anonymous No.5095606]

>>5093443
>Never. I'm gonna come there and the fuckers are just gonna drown me in pills rather than help me.
You don't know until you try. If they give you pills and they don't help, it's within your power to stop taking them.

[Anonymous No.5095819]

>>5094457
This is pretty good advice, I'll cap this for reference too
Thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.5096749]

>>5094351
Green line anon?

[Anonymous No.5096765]

>>5096749
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86646751

[Anonymous No.5096768]

>>5096765
Thank you