/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.5088847]

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
>Location
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
>Size (in inches)
>Other information
>Previous equipment

If you have any additional questions, ask them.

>Recommended tablets:

Intuos 3 - Best budget tablet.
Intuos Pro M - The best non-display tablet.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech.
Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet.
Used Cintiq 22HD - The only worthwhile large display tablet
Galaxy Tab S7+ - Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro

>Avoid:

XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand - Poor build quality, lackluster pens, bad tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands are basically the same because they're all centralized. Also watch, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
Lenovo - Bad drawing performance.

Previous: >>5075263

[Anonymous No.5088902]

>>5088847
still need some pro tips : >>5086488
i tried Easy Canvas and it seem to work with Krita.
should i also buy Procreate on the Ipad at this point ?
is there a software without subscription or that isn't crazy expensive, works on Windows 10 and better than Easy Canvas ?
sorry for all the questions, i'm a beginner transitioning from paper+pen to 8th gen Ipad+pc.

[Anonymous No.5088939]

I recently got myself an Ipad Pro but only now i realized that i don't really know how to use it really? Do i plug it to my computer and work on it as a second monitor? What app do i get for art? I'm sorry for such a broad question but i don't really know what to do. I got so focused on "I need to get this" that i forgot to research how to actually work on the damn thing

[Anonymous No.5088958]

>>5088939
You can use easycanvas to mirror your computer over a wifi network, it'll work as a wireless Cintiq. You can also try actual drawing apps like clip studio or procreate.

[Anonymous No.5088979]

I don't want to hear from the Wacomshill because I've had this same problem with Wacoms: I recent bought a Huion HS611 to replace and old Wacom, buy every so often the pen will continue drawing while I'm just hovering over the tablet.
It only stops of I tap the tablet with the pen.
It's not the worst thing that could happen, but it's still annoying so does anyone know how to solve the problem?

[Anonymous No.5088990]

Newer cintiq 16's any good?

[Anonymous No.5089040]

>>5088847
Huion >>>>> Cintiq

[Anonymous No.5089203]

>>5088979
Try wiping your Wacom drivers, my Kamvas gave me some issues until I did that.

[Anonymous No.5089221]

>>5088847
Remember to report any dtg with this OP in it. He wont ever stop until you cunts act

[Anonymous No.5089234]

>>5088847
Look at the schizo bumping his thread to start his new cancer general

[Anonymous No.5089318]

>>5088990
Cintiq 16 is good just be sure to get a decent stand for it.

I also recommend getting the Tabmate controller as well.

[Anonymous No.5089321]

>>5089040
if you're a poorfag yes

[Anonymous No.5089345]

>>5089318
Does the entry level Cintiq 16 not come with a installed vesa mount or is it using those cheapo chinese pop out type legs like the One has?

[Anonymous No.5089349]

>>5089234
It's spam. He's publicly and blatantly spamming these threads. Just report him, he's already been caught ban evading twice.

[Anonymous No.5089408]

Is the huion gt220 v2 worth a shit? I bought one a couple years ago and haven't even opened it yet.

[Anonymous No.5089409]

I'm a big guy, should I spring for the Cintiq 22? I use pencil and paper and want to make the jump to digital

[Anonymous No.5089413]

>>5089409
If you have a huge load of money to spend, get the cintiq pro 24. If you want to spend far less but still have all your realistic needs covered, get an xp 24 pro or a huion kamvas 22 plus/24 pro

[Anonymous No.5089419]

>>5089408
No. You waited 2 years to use it, it's got an outdated screen and pen at this point. Sell on ebay for parts and try again.

>>5089409
If you can afford it, go for it. As a new comer in digital, unless you KNOW the investment will be worth it, also known as actually drawing on it every day, dumping over 1k on a tool is kinda of retarded.
If you can find one second hand or on sale, it should be fine though. be aware of other investments you have to make towards it such as a stand.

[Anonymous No.5089423]

>>5089345
Cintiq 16 comes with those little built in legs and it uses standard 75 x 75mm VESA mounting.

Currently using the boyata laptop stand with it which is a lot cheaper than the official wacom stand for it.

[Anonymous No.5089438]

>>5089419
Well I do draw everyday, I love drawing. I got some Christmas money and can cover the 16 with it, so I might just go with that. The only issue I might have is size

[Anonymous No.5089449]

>>5088847
can these nibs work with the intuos3?

https://estore.wacom.com/en-US/pro-accessory-kit-for-previous-generation-tablets-and-displays-ack40001.html

[Anonymous No.5089453]

>>5089449
yes

[Anonymous No.5089473]

>>5088847
guys what about the new kamvas 16 2021? i saw the prices and it looks very good for the price, i guess they improve some things since is gonna use the last stylus version

[Anonymous No.5089476]

>>5089438
If you're broad 16 might be tight.
If you have the money might as well go for the 24.

>>5089473
You're not allowed to talk about Chinese tablets or the Schizo will yell at you.

[Anonymous No.5089492]

>>5089453
Thanks you

[Anonymous No.5089501]

>>5088939
Nigga what? iPad pro is a standalone. You start the ipad, you use your apple pen to draw on it using procreate or another program, but procreate is king

[Anonymous No.5089675]

I have a Huion 13 Kamvas and I keep running into problems with it being finicky as fuck with the tablet pen connection. Sometimes it works fine for a good while but then there's periods where I have to turn the tablet screen on and off, and then only be able to draw for a few seconds before I get "USB device not recognized". I feel like this has to do with my relatively mediocre laptop or the fact that I use Windows 10, but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.5089683]

>>5089675
Huion has notorious cable issues, but also make sure drivers are all uninstalled, before you reinstall, since that's the most common fix.

I'd say try and see if you can find a replacement cable but if I remember correctly, their ports are smaller than most cable housings allow so you might be stuck getting another from Huion if that ends up the issue.

>>5089473
It's okay. Huion releases a new version almost every year now it seems. It's either a new screen or a new pen.
For the price it's fine, not much else in the market unless you plan on saving more up.

[Anonymous No.5089733]

>>5088847
I just got a huion h610 v2 for christmas. Its not bad at all considering that it costs $40 and a tiny wacom starts at 80. The tracking quality pretty similar to an old wacom graphire, but with a battery free pen. Tilt is shit though.

[Anonymous No.5089792]

>>5088939
>I recently got myself an Ipad Pro but only now i realized that i don't really know how to use it really? Do i plug it to my computer and work on it as a second monitor? What app do i get for art? I'm sorry for such a broad question but i don't really know what to do. I got so focused on "I need to get this" that i forgot to research how to actually work on the damn thing

[Anonymous No.5089825]

>>5089733
Tilt might be shit but the non pro Wacom line doesn't even have tilt. Period

[Anonymous No.5089870]

What are the differences between the regular Kamvas and the Pro line?
Is it worth paying for an UHD screen over 1080p if I'm looking for a display tablet around 20"?

[Anonymous No.5089875]

>>5089870
>What are the differences between the regular Kamvas and the Pro line?
Nothing, they're both fragile chinese rubbish that can't draw straight lines.

[Anonymous No.5089879]

>>5089825
Pretty much. The Huion should be the top choice for someone just getting into the hobby, contrary to what OP says. But if you have the money, by all means get an intuos.

[Anonymous No.5089881]

>the instant seething response

[Anonymous No.5089889]

>>5089409
Why not try an Intuos Pro first? Or better yet, a used iPad Pro?

[Anonymous No.5089949]

got my artist 15.6 pro
havent spent much time with it, but so far so good
colours seem alright out of the box. maybe a little too saturated?
buttons/wheel are fantastic.
parallax isnt really noticeable at all while drawing
stand is garbage and only has one position. took me a while to realize you can actually lock it into 90 degrees as i had it falling constantly before
it kinda just fails to register extremely light strokes but i dont mind this too much (knew about it before buying)
the tablet surface feels good to draw on most of the time. but at some parts it can feel a little rough and im not sure why. it feels even with my fingers so im not sure if its the screen or not. any ideas?
also i disabled the smaller button on the pen itself since it kind of gets in the way
it is kind of annoying have a giant screen in the way of my laptop keyboard, but still a huge step up over my old piece of junk
cant wait to actually get some drawing done
AMA

[Anonymous No.5089957]

>>5089949
Nobody gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.5089960]

>>5089949
That texture issue might be the nib is rough and dragging along the screen. I had an issue like that with one of the pens, but it ended up being because some idiot came to my office and thought it was a regular pen.

>>5089825
Tilt is a meme. Unless you're doing strictly painting there's not true need for tilt.

[Anonymous No.5089962]

>>5089960
>Tilt is a meme. Unless you're doing strictly painting there's not true need for tilt.
Stop projecting your workflow standards onto others you worthless idiotic zhanger. Some people love tilt, and it improves their workflow drastically.

[Anonymous No.5089964]

>>5089957
you dont care yet you were kind enough to give me a (You)
Thanks.
>>5089960
its weird because even if i drag the pen down with the same angle, itll only feel rough at spots. im not totally sure if im not just tricking myself into thinking this or not. pen is practically unused too. ill try a new nib tomorrow

[Anonymous No.5089978]

>>5089870
The Pro versions have better screens with more colors, less parallax, and more intuitive controls like a touch bar for zooming/scrolling/etc.
>>5089957
>>5089949
I do give a ton. It's good to hear summary of a product from somebody I know isn't paid off.

[Anonymous No.5089995]

>>5089962
>t. coping raging tard who doesn't draw at all

[Anonymous No.5090181]

>>5088847
>Avoid: Microsoft Surface Pro
I was gifted one for Xmas, am I actually fucked or is it a meme and it's fine.

Also anyone have any suggestion on what's the best program to use on it would be, I'm brand new to digital art.

[Anonymous No.5090211]

>>5090181
The pen is on the crappy side and the hardware os weakish.

I'd suggest SAI since it's the most lightweight software out of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.5090239]

>>5090211
>The pen is on the crappy side and the hardware os weakish
Damn that sucks about the pen especially since there's nothing I can do about it, tho I might be good on hardware os seems they got me the nicest model.

Thanks for the recommendation tho I'll check out SAI

[Anonymous No.5090292]

>budget: ~1k
>location: Canada
>Type: Display/Portable
>Size: around 10-14 inches?
>current hardware: Cintiq Hybrid
Looking for something to replace my janky cintiq hybrid. I will primarily be using the tablet as a pen display for my windows based machine, but with occasional travel as a mobile device. Does performance even matter much in this case or should I just cop a used tab 6 lite for like 300 cad? I'm hoping to exceed or at least match the experience I get with my cintiq hybrid and I'll compromise on the mobile experience for a better desktop experience.

[Anonymous No.5090330]

>>5088847
>Pick up wacom tablet
>Stellar tablet quality, smooth lines and surface
>But pricey as fuck, drivers are fucking unstable, literally contain spyware and crash frequently. Display tablets are prohibitively expensive, doesn't make sense to buy one unless you're already working in a studio.

>Pick up chinese-brand tablet
>Great prices, stable drivers and general accessibility. Display tablets are financially available for the average hobbyist.
>But quality ranges from passable to garbage, poorly calibrated surfaces and displays, pens are uncomfortable to hold and shit breaks VERY easily.

>mfw there will ALWAYS be a setback no matter what I pick.

I fucking hate technology

[Anonymous No.5090467]

>>5090292
Used iPad Pro 2nd gen 12.9" off Ebay.

[Anonymous No.5090498]

After three years of using the Surface Pro 4, the screen is now bulging out of the tablet and it's been over 3 years since I bought the device. I doubt I'll be able to get it replaced so what's the best tablet/laptop I should get to replace this?

[Anonymous No.5090499]

What do you guys use for cleaning your drawing monitors?

[Anonymous No.5090533]

>>5090499
Displays arrive with microfibre cloths. If it gets really bad I use a bit of hot breath and give it a rubadub

[Anonymous No.5090534]

>>5089957
>>5089962
Fuck off and read a book, schizo

[Anonymous No.5090547]

>>5090534
The /dtg/ schizo doesn't even know what a book is, let alone how to draw.

[Anonymous No.5090580]

found a good deal on a normal cintiq 16, is it worth it? i dont really trust any competition like huion and xp pen

[Anonymous No.5090646]

>>5090580
Non pro cintiqs have shitty screens with bad contrast ratio/colour range. Wacom punishes cheapskates harshly, you either go all in for the best or you get handed subpar tablet for an unreasonable price. If you blindly trust the retard OP despite the hundreds of decent reviews for the competitors then thats your only choice, enjoy I guess

https://youtu.be/ANWe6qJlLh4

[Anonymous No.5090659]

>>5090181
In the same boat, except I bought myself one to do a bunch of shit on like coding, but wanted to pick up drawing as well.

Works fine. If you're just getting started nobody expects you to have pixel perfect lines. I just downloaded Leonardo which is a pretty cool drawing program that smooths out your shit, so it helps. Initially started doodling on the built in whiteboard app, but that's not meant for complex drawings and starts to lag out. It's probably not the perfect drawing tablet, but it does the job well enough to learn on I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.5090665]

>>5090580
>i dont really trust any competition like huion and xp pen
Notice how the shill proceeds to try and get you to buy one anyway, before offering you a shill review: >>5090646

Thankfully, Youtube offers different perspectives, like this one comparing the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII
Which further highlights the issues of XP Pen rubbish.

A Cintiq 16 is fine, but I would go with the 22" if possible, otherwise you're better off with an iPad Pro 12.9" in my opinion. Form factor only makes a significant difference when you go above the 20" mark, because that's when you can draw with your shoulder.

Of course, you want to discard all chinese crap. They're fragile, uncalibrated and the pens can't draw straight lines. At the very least with a Cintiq 16, the pen won't have any problems and will perform like a real life pen.

[Anonymous No.5090672]

>>5090330
Select out of the new chinkshits they are solid.

>Deco 01v2, hs611, Deco pro
All good
Artist pro 15.6 is this threads darling, half of the anons here have it and all love it.
Kamvas 22Plus is also a very good deal

[Anonymous No.5090675]

>>5090672
Nice try, shill.

[Anonymous No.5090691]

>>5090675
t. larping schizo who can only post shill reviews because he doesn't own a single tablet lmao

[Anonymous No.5090692]

>>5090675
Poor try OP.
You think you can samefag for another person pretending youre that guy? Would need at least 80iq for that.

[Anonymous No.5090696]

>>5090659
I was pretty much doing the same, I was drawing on something pre installed called 3d paint I think. Leonardo looks really cool tho, thanks for the suggestion I'm going to download it today.

[Anonymous No.5090708]

>>5090675
im gonna go buy an xp pen now just to spite you
and i dont even draw

[Anonymous No.5090773]

Hi Newfriends, remember to shit on >>5090665
for being a non artist schizo from /g/.

Go on schizo, report this to the jannies. Do as I tell you, bitch

[Anonymous No.5091358]

When I hold my pen in one spot for too long (which is half a fucking second), a circle appears around the cursor and the pen stops drawing until I lift it off and touch the tablet again
what is this and how do I turn this shit off
its really annoying

intuos medium

[Anonymous No.5091423]

>>5090211
>the hardware os weakish.
based retard
the only problem with the new surface, assuming he doesn't get fucked by poor qc, is the n-trig tech
a 10th gen intcel is enough to run whatever the fuck he wants

[Anonymous No.5091471]

>>5090330
>phillip-bankss
Based
I really don't have anything to say except that his art is funny as fuck and I'm lowkey mad that he's working as a service industry wagie and hardly anyone knows about him.

[Anonymous No.5091557]

Eyeing the Kamvas 22 Plus ($549) and the 24 Pro ($899) at the moment. The 22 has 1080p resolution but has 140%sRGB while the 24 has QHD resolution and 120%sRGB.
Which would overall be more worth the money, the higher res 24 that costs twice as much but has less color accuracy, or the 22?
Any other significant differences between these two models?

[Anonymous No.5091578]

>>5091471
>I'm lowkey mad that he's working as a service industry wagie
You mean McDonalds?
lol

[Anonymous No.5091610]

>>5091557
>Which would overall be more worth the money, the higher res 24 that costs twice as much but has less color accuracy, or the 22?
I'd say that if you have the money to go for the 24 because you're going to spend most of your time with that monitor up close and with such a size, 2K will help out a lot.

[Anonymous No.5091647]

>>5090675
I don't really want to root for china, specially since CCP is such an insane authoritarian distopia that hates individual freedom and human rights, but this anon I swear...

[Anonymous No.5091674]

>>5090467
Prices im seeing are ending up close to the cost of the Samsung tab 7, is the IPad better than that? Or is it worth it to just go for the tab7 with the pen included?

[Anonymous No.5091873]

I don't really know how committed I am to digital art or drawing in general (or at least the kind of drawing that warrants a drawing tablet, I just want to get better at sketching building details and I think a sketchbook suffices). I read in the op that huion should be avoided, but I can get a huion 420 for $25 CAD and I'm not really willing to spend more than 30 which happens to be the bottom of the barrel prices. Should I buy it just to get into digital drawing?

[Anonymous No.5091892]

>>5091471
Isn't he one of those losers who think that working a regular job is slavery?

[Anonymous No.5091903]

>>5091873
The OP is a schizo. Pay him no mind.
Also, you should really, really spend at least $60-80 if you can afford it. At that price point you can get a Huion HS611 or XP-Pen Deco 01 V2, which have a much bigger area, express keys, and are generally better. The Huion H420 was made for playing Osu!, not drawing, and due to its tiny area I've heard stories of people getting wrist problems with continued usage for drawing.

[Anonymous No.5092165]

>>5091358
Disable press-and-hold-right-click functionality in Windows. Type "Pen" in start menu search bar and look for "Pen and touch" options applet, "press and hold" option in first tab, press "options..." button and disable it.

[Anonymous No.5092200]

Is there any meaningful difference between ipad 2nd and 3rd generations for the apple 1 vs apple 2 pen?

[Anonymous No.5092209]

Might get a Cintiq Pro 24. Is the Wacom VESA mount good?

[Anonymous No.5092211]

>>5090675
are you the same schizo who ghostbumps on /m/ too?

[Anonymous No.5092231]

This entire thread is nonsense.
Every actual professional all use the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 - there is simply no other substitute for serious work.

[Anonymous No.5092238]

>>5091873
This anon is correct >>5091903
The huion 420 is a legit shit product its 4" by 2" imagine drawing on a postal stamp.

The minimal viable product is Deco 01, if you cant afford 60$ you can't afford digital art. Anything smaller or cheaper than that isn't worth having.

[Anonymous No.5092244]

>>5092238
You sure are desperate, Zhang.

[Anonymous No.5092263]

Got a kamvas 16 pro.

Review from a non-shill:

Honestly not super thrilled with it.

Couldn't figure out why it wasn't showing up as connected for a couple hours. Turned out it didn't like the first two USB slots I plugged it into.

The pen is creaky, cheap feeling, uncomfortable, buttons are easy to push by mistake. The pen holder is stupid.

My 10 year old Intuous had a better-feeling pen, a slot on the tablet itself to store the pen, AND an eraser on the back. I wish I knew where it got to.

I already have 2 monitors and I would like my tablet to duplicate ome of them, but I can't figure out how and it works as a 3rd monitor, which is not ideal. It also gets in the way of my keyboard.

I also have a Samsung note 20. The pen on that is way, way better. Being able to zoom and rotate with my fingers is convenient. Although the screen is technically much smaller than the kamvas 16, in practice its not much of a difference because the UI takes up so much space in photoshop.

If I could redo my purchase, I would probably put the money towards a galaxy tablet instead if the pen is as good as the note 20 pen. Then I could draw in bed or on the couch instead of just at my desk.

[Anonymous No.5092266]

>>5092263
Be careful you don’t press the pen too hard or it will be permanently fucked and draw lines when you’re hovering it over the screen

[Anonymous No.5092298]

I recently got a Cintiq tablet so I'm trying to get used to the learning curve, but I'm already finding myself annoyed by having the mouse cursor teleport to this new "second monitor" every time I use the pen. I'd like to be able to use the pen on the tablet, then have the cursor return to its previous position on my primary screen when I'm not using my pen.

Is there any way to do this, or do I just need to get used to having to pan my mouse back over across the tablet back onto my primary screen every time I'm not using my pen?

[Anonymous No.5092305]

>>5092298
Your tablet is your primary screen now

The other one might work for references though.

And no it's about the windows just not being designed to handle two input sources at once, most people don't use two mouses

[Anonymous No.5092307]

>>5092305
The thing is, I tend to switch back and forth between drawing and regular PC use often, which makes the constant mousing over back to my main display a bit of a pain.

Ah well, guess I'll just have to get used to it.

[Anonymous No.5092533]

>>5092165
Thanks anon. Took some fussing to find that option. Apparently "Pen and touch" is completely gone into hiding if you don't have the tablet hooked up.

[Anonymous No.5092622]

>>5092533
Wacom and Windows 10 is a case of extreme cancer. There are a few things you should know

1) Using Wacom Desktop Center, you should disable Windows Ink on the windows desktop but not in drawing programs due to the operation of drivers (Windows Cancer Ink > Wintab most of the time, as Wintab can cause major issues like flickering cursors in SAI when used with Wacom and in Photoshop using Wintab via the configuration file will cause your brush strokes to become disgustingly angled as well as causing other issues to do with stroke sensitivity).

2) As stated by the previous anon, you should disable flicks

3) You should go into services.msc and disable Pen and Touch if it exists in services.msc

4) Wacom drivers will frequently break. When this happens, you will lose all pen pressure and it will stay without pen pressure unless you do one of the following actions.

THE .BAT METHOD
__________________
I highly suggest using a .bat file like mine https://pastebin.com/GpjHG5gT which will restart the services twice. If you are using my .bat file, make sure that you actually have
"WTabletServicePro.exe"
"Wacom_Tablet.exe"
"Wacom_TabletUser.exe"
"Wacom_TouchUser.exe"

Runing in windows 10 under task manager as otherwise it will try and restart a non existent programs. You can also edit the name of the exes if you have different exes. Of course you can choose not to use my .bat file and do the restart those four .exes manually (ewwww.....) when it inevitably dies but that can also takes time.

[Anonymous No.5092627]

>>5092622
THE MANUAL RESTART METHOD
__________________
Restarting services manually is done via task manager and services.msc (the same ones that the .bat lists, ie close
"WTabletServicePro.exe"
"Wacom_Tablet.exe"
"Wacom_TabletUser.exe"
"Wacom_TouchUser.exe"

and restart the wacom service in services.msc and it will fix your pen pressure. Sometimes, you'll need to do it again if it doesn't come back)

THE DUMMY METHOD
__________________
You can simply reboot your computer in order to get pen pressure back, but of course this one is the most timeconsuming of all the methods

You DO NOT need to reinstall wacom drivers unlike what people say on the internet about having to reinstall drivers to get their pen pressure back. Your pen pressure will not generally be permanently fucked.

5) Whenever Windows Ink is enabled, holding down ctrl or alt will cause a bubble to pop up next to your cursor, blocking a small portion of your art. As far as I know, this behaviour cannot be disabled. At all. Which can be annoying if the program demands windows ink, especially in the case of Photoshop.

==========================
OTHER PROBLEMS TO DO WITH WACOM
>Windows can't see your wacom tablet
Check the tablet is actually connected to your computer. If it doesn't work, connect the tablet to another computer. If that also doesn't work it means it's a problem with the cable itself and you'll need to buy a new one
>Nibs getting eaten like crazy
Slap something over the top of your wacom
>Pens dying
Be EXTREMELY CAREFUL with your pens and do not drop them as one wrong move could cost you a hundred dollars to replace the pen
============================

[Anonymous No.5092748]

>>5092627
What if my usb port is broken and it wont recognize the wireless even on computers that have had no problem with the wireless before? Am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.5092791]

>>5092627
>>5092622
Thanks for looking out for me dog, here's a funny kitten gif in return and merry christmas

[Anonymous No.5092794]

>>5089949
>it kinda just fails to register extremely light strokes
You can calibrate the tuning screw in the pen to fix that (it's under the side buttons) but be careful if you're going to fuck with it, it's very sensitive.

[Anonymous No.5093097]

>>5092794
wait what???
maybe i shouldnt fuck with it if its not a big deal then? dont want to ruin the pen
also after spending a few more days with it, im really starting to like it. new workflow feels so fast and im no longer tempted to hyperzoom into my drawing like i was with my screenless tablet. Mapped space and space+ctrl to two of the buttons and brush size to the wheel (which is honestly the best thing ever) and im pretty much only touching the keyboard to flip and transform (though i might map those as well)

[Anonymous No.5093222]

Is using a laptop stand for screen-less tablets advisable?
Or should I just keep it flat on my desk like I've been doing until now?

Also since we are at it... How close or far away from you should a screen-less tablet be?

[Anonymous No.5093228]

Is there a place/forum/whatever to discussing non-standard input devices, for artist or other working environments?

Like using foot pedals, macropads, trackballs or 3D mouses.

[Anonymous No.5093285]

>>5093228
I use an 8BitDo Zero 2 controller for all my hotkeys. Its I mine controller small enough to easily reach every button while holding it sideways in just your left hand (and it's a small oval, so it's comfy).

It's got 10 face bottons, and I use the 2 shoulder buttons as modifier keys, so I've got 40 useable inputs.

[Anonymous No.5093302]

>>5093222
doesnt fucking matter do whats comfortable

[Anonymous No.5093309]

>>5093285
>8BitDo Zero 2
Thanks man I'm about to get my S7+ and was wondering how much it sucks to work without any physical hotkeys

[Anonymous No.5093344]

>>5093222
Its actually important to keep your tablet strictly parallel to the monitor on the rotation axis, if it's turned even slightly drawing is going extra akward.

Ass for the distance It's really good to have your elbow above the desk so raise your chair up.

[Anonymous No.5093353]

I'm getting the iPad pro for drawing. I also need a new phone, which I'll get in a month or so. Would there be any benefit in getting an iPhone? Never had one, never had a single apple product before the iPad that will arrive tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.5093358]

Getting myself a cintiq pro 24. While I'm waiting for the order to ship from Amazon I've been looking at investing in an adjustable arm since the "stand" it comes with is lackluster to say the least. I would prefer to not have to spend more than I need to on this thing so I need some help. I see that the mounting bracket on the cintiq is of course not your usual vesa dimensions. Do I need to order this specific cintiq mounting bracket? https://www.amazon.ca/Wacom-ACK62804K-Cintiq-VESA-Mount/dp/B07HRG7HV8/ref=sr_1_5?crid=55R6VR7TFX0G&dchild=1&keywords=cintiq+pro+24+vesa+mount&qid=1609090662&sprefix=cintiq+pro+ves%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-5
OR can I get away with something like this? https://www.amazon.ca/RENTLIV-Bracket-Computer-Articulating-Extension/dp/B07TC59WGR/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rentliv+rlmf3&qid=1609091226&sr=8-1 which claims it's adjustable to a variety of settings. I already have the realtiv bracket so it'd be a huge bonus to not have to buy another seperate mounting bracket.

As for the arm, I was thinking of just getting the amazon basics one. https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-Premium-Single-Monitor-Stand/dp/B00MIBN16O/ref=sr_1_6?crid=55R6VR7TFX0G&dchild=1&keywords=cintiq+pro+24+vesa+mount&qid=1609091628&sprefix=cintiq+pro+ves%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-6

[Anonymous No.5093363]

>>5089792
procreate is all you need.

[Anonymous No.5093391]

>>5093309
>I'm about to get my S7+ and was wondering how much it sucks to work without any physical hotkeys
That's exactly what I have and use it with. Works great. You'll need a key mapper if you want to change button assignments (especially to use with things like Infinite Painter which won't let you assign your own shortcuts).

[Anonymous No.5093695]

>>5092263
Where did you buy it from, what service did they use, and how much did it take? I bought my Kamvas Pro 16 on the 11th, shipped on the 18th with FedEx International Priority, was stuck in China until now.

[Anonymous No.5093753]

>>5090181
its usable, just overpriced for what it is imo. also,
>The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
this is definitely true and annoying as hell. however using a line smoothing option remedies this.
for a beginner or a hobbyist its fine

[Anonymous No.5093986]

>>5092748
Depends on which port, most computers/laptops have multiple usb ports but if your tablet usb port dies it's obviously over unless you want to pay a repair fee so be gentle when plugging and unplugging

[Anonymous No.5094170]

>>5093222
I use one. Makes it more comforable for me and makes it easier to draw from the shoulder.

[Anonymous No.5094193]

>>5093358
Yeah you need the VESA adapter. Either the offical wacom one or a third party one. Some people make their own too.
https://sweetmonia.com/Sweet-Drawing-Blog/how-to-mount-cintiq-pro-24-to-an-ergotron-arm-or-to-a-vesa-mount-using-an-adapter/
The amazon basic arms are fine.

[Anonymous No.5094222]

>>5093353
IPhone are garbage if you've already had an android or literally anything else. There's almost no features and the batteries are still under a day garbage.

Androids you can root and many are big enough that people draw on them, like the S20.

[Anonymous No.5094252]

do you guys actually wear a glove when you draw on your display tablets?

[Anonymous No.5094255]

>>5088847
I got an XP-PEN Deco 01 back in March and it's just now starting to fuck up by stuttering and not completing lines. Is there another tablet around that price with similar dimensions (10x8)?

[Anonymous No.5094256]

>>5094252
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.5094260]

theres an air bubble on my screen (artist pro 15.6) that i didnt notice until now. tried smoothing it out but it got worse, seems like theres a piece of dust under the preinstalled screen protector (?)
whats the proper procedure here?

[Anonymous No.5094264]

>>5093695
Amazon

[Anonymous No.5094290]

>>5094260
Order a new screen protector. Peel off the screen protector and replace it...

[Anonymous No.5094302]

>>5094290
sorry guess it does sound like a dumb question
not sure because the screen had like 3 layers of plastic when it shipped. a flimsy one, an "antiglare" one, and this one, which seems like its not supposed to come off, but i really am not sure.

[Anonymous No.5094344]

>>5094252
Yeah but only because I'm hate the squeaking noise.

[Anonymous No.5094391]

Anyone know of a good glove that covers your entire hand?

[Anonymous No.5094417]

>>5094193
Well that's frustrating. I don't think that third party adapter is available in Canada. I'll have to look into that DIY adapter you linked. Really not thrilled about having to shell out an extra $100 just for a proper mounting bracket. Thanks for the info!

[Anonymous No.5094425]

>>5094391
They make full gloves made of lycra/spandex for Halloween costumes. Probably all the same cheap Chinese quality.
There are also ones made for figure skating but they're overpriced.

[Anonymous No.5094664]

Is the Samsung tab s7 plus or the iPad pro better for use connected to a windows desktop as pen display? Is the s6 lite enough horsepower for this kind of work? Looking for something that can occasionally be used on the go, but mainly with my pc.

[Anonymous No.5094701]

>>5094260
Posts like this make me so happy I didn't buy a chinese tablet lol

[Anonymous No.5094707]

>>5092748
If you're a gamer, the USB-C ports on newer wacoms are pretty easy to replace, assuming you know how to solder that is. The first few runs of the new tablets had serious durability issues with the USB ports but the ones that you can buy new these days are pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.5094710]

>>5094664
Is this even possible with those two?
The only tablet I know capable of this is the Cintiq Companion tablet.

[Anonymous No.5094711]

>>5094252
I wear a glove on my screenless tablet because I wore a hole in my hand without it. I'm too stupid to learn how to draw the right way so this is my only option.

[Anonymous No.5094720]

>>5092622
>Wacom and Windows 10 is a case of extreme cancer.
Unfortunately ... and even thinking about the prices of Wacom tablets it's a shame for this company to not have a solution for this.
I mean, this problem is old and well known, users have to restart the services and even make batch files and shit.

Wacom's support in this case is a shame for this company. And no, making it Microsoft's fault isn't an argument here.

I have an Intuos pro and have/had many problems with exactly this.

The drivers of my XP-Pen Artist 15.6 are complete shit-tier, especially when the pc wakes up from energy saving, but a restart or reconnecting the tablet solves all issues so far.

[Anonymous No.5094727]

>>5094707
It's an intuos 5, so no usb-c for me. I can't even get the damn thing open but I know the usb is fucked because when i tried to plug it in the port slid into the tablet.

>inb4 you cant hamfist your tablet like that
I didn't, it's just soldered like total ass apparently.

[Anonymous No.5094765]

>>5088847
What's the best cintiq alternative that you can hook up to a phone or tablet via one USB C cable?

[Anonymous No.5094834]

>>5094720
Code generally ages like milk and I guess that Wacom drivers and Windows 10 (which basically has the same codebase as all the other windows) is most likely to blame for the cancer.

[Anonymous No.5094908]

>>5094765
Wacom One

[Anonymous No.5094941]

Is the Cintiq Pro 13 worth getting?

[Anonymous No.5095385]

Just got a Samsung S7+ and the first impressions are very positive.
CSP seems to run better than on a PC, huge brushes too.

Kria also runs surprisingly well with all of it's advanced functions, but the interface is completely unusable.

The pen is also very good and really sensitive to the lightest touches except i would like to crank the sensitivity way way up. By default getting 100% sensitivity requires you to press with the strength of a gorilla and the rubber tip definitely not gonna live long like that. Amazingly the cursors stays right under the pen tip even if you lift it while tilting, I legit don't understand how the fuck did they do that but it rocks.

[Anonymous No.5095393]

>>5095385
Also I can't draw on it for shit lol.
I got so used to a screenless tablet + a huge screen and drawing right on the screen where i'm looking feels really different.

[Anonymous No.5095413]

>>5095393
You get used to it.
You can also get VirtualTablet, which lets you use it as a screenless tablet for PC. superDisplay also lets you use it as a display tablet for PC.

[Anonymous No.5095435]

Are XP-Pen's really that bad?
I know I'm paying for an inferior product but are they good enough for a complete beginner to dig art? They're founded in Japan and they have some relatively cheap tablets

[Anonymous No.5095445]

>>5095435
>They're founded in Japan
By a chinese company.
They are 100% chinese.

Can you draw stuff with it? Yes, except there will always be problems, like wobbly straight lines, hard tapers, etc. You can work around them, but at the end of the day, it's better to adjust to a tablet without all those problems for optimal workflow.

Even a really cheap Intuos 3 on Ebay offers a better drawing experience than any XP Pen.

[Anonymous No.5095469]

>>5095413
>. superDisplay also lets you use it as a display tablet for PC.
I tried but it doesn't work, the output is displaying rainbow vomit of randomly colored pixels.

[Anonymous No.5095472]

>>5095469
Did you pirate it?

[Anonymous No.5095474]

>>5095445
How many times do you have to duck Wacom dick anon?

[Anonymous No.5095483]

>>5095472
Just tried the free trial

[Anonymous No.5095489]

>>5095483
email the developer at [e-mail]
he responds to all problem queries.

[Anonymous No.5095497]

>>5095435
they are fine, but, in my experience, you have to take some precautions to secure a long life of the product.
I have for example the deco 03 from a long time, drawing constantly, and the surface
get scratched a lot after so much use, but it is only aesthetic, because the surface is still smooth. But I know that this aesthetic thing will bother someone a lot. I later discovered that even the same company sells a "protector" that you can put on top of the surface to prevent that, i would recommend it if you want to keep the product with the best possible image to maybe resell it later.

But except for that cosmetic thing i dont any problems at all. the bluetooh option work perfect, and the usb to usb-c cable works perfect and i never had to buy another, draw without any problems.
I bought it in a regular store also, not on the internet, because they give me a bad feeling to buy serious things. and if it turns out to be defective i can go with the warranty quickly to change it to the store
I would recommend it 100%, especially the newer models

[Anonymous No.5095530]

>>5095497
Can't draw straight lines.
Inconsistent tapering.
Bad pen tip tracking.
Broken tilt.
Highly fragile.

Yikes.

[Anonymous No.5095585]

>>5095435
no, you get a worthwhile product for the price.
I'm still only a week in with my artist pro and im loving it more and more
line quality is great

[Anonymous No.5095634]

>>5095585
>line quality is great
You can shill all you like, Chang, but webms like this >>5095530 speak far louder than your baseless claims.

[Anonymous No.5095646]

>>5095435
Xp are fine, op is a lying shill. I used them for years and couldn't be happier.

[Anonymous No.5095648]

>>5095634
works fine on my device Lol
sounds like the shill is you, especially with spamming the same forced clip every thread

[Anonymous No.5095659]

>>5095648
>works fine on my device Lol
Backed up by nothing other than your word. Meanwhile actual video evidence was posted here: >>5095530
>sounds like the shill is you
No, you're just a braindead chinese idiot with no argument, no evidence, nothing, other than the desperation to sell crappy tablets.

[Anonymous No.5095669]

>>5095530
you can post dozens of similar videos with defective products of ANY company, there is no point in that. Your opinion is visible biased

[Anonymous No.5095671]

>>5095669
>you can post dozens of similar videos with defective products of ANY company
Except you can't, which is why you haven't, Chang.
I've posted evidence, you've posted nothing. You're a worthless shill.

[Anonymous No.5095684]

>>5095634
as far i know, at least any screenless tablets had zero problems, screen tablets could at least have drivers problems in the first time, but those companies make several updates of their prodcuts. At least i can confirm that in my screenless tablet

[Anonymous No.5095694]

>>5095684
Wrong, screen tablets are no different when it comes to pen technology. The problem with XP Pen and Huion trash is their shitty pens that can't draw straight lines.

[Anonymous No.5095699]

>>5095530
>krita
Opinion discarded, open sores tech is some of the most unreliable dog shit out there

[Anonymous No.5095724]

>>5095699
You're getting incredibly desperate now, Chang.

[Anonymous No.5095745]

>>5095669
don't let him see the Wacom subreddit, he'll have a meltdown

[Anonymous No.5095823]

>>5095745
lol it turns out wacoms are overpriced trash. Who could have seen this coming?

[Anonymous No.5095851]

>>5095823
>posting reddit
Yep, you're getting extremely desperate there, Chang.

[Anonymous No.5095854]

>>5095851
just out of curiousity, how many changs do you think there are?

[Anonymous No.5095860]

>>5095854
Just one but he's posting from 57 different addresses

[Anonymous No.5095863]

>>5095854
Op actually believes he alone here with me and every single post is samefaggotry.

[Anonymous No.5095884]

>>5095854
probably just one.

[Anonymous No.5095996]

>>5094710
I've got a cintiq hybrid but its showing it's age, android 4 sucks. I know there are apps like astropad, superdisplay or duet which let you use your mobile tablet as a pen display though.

[Anonymous No.5096016]

>>5088847
It's a bit off-topic but just like drawing tablet, is there some computer to avoid buying if I want to start?
(english isn't my first language btw)

[Anonymous No.5096077]

>>5096016

A chromebook.
>>5095694
Their pens are shitty but that's only cause Wacom is holding on to rotation for dear life. Screenless wise theres no point in a Wacom. Their display tablets are the only ones with enough technology to make the price somewhat worth it. Wacom is only the best because of its pens. Thats it.
>>5095659
Your video was disproven various times, mostly because it's trying to show tilt rotation with a pen that does NOT have rotation.
>it doesn't do the thing see??????
>it doesn't have the thing to do it.

Also, please remember to report the Wacom shill for acting like this is /b/ when it's not.

[Anonymous No.5096089]

>>5096077
>Their pens are shitty but that's only cause Wacom is holding on to rotation for dear life. Screenless wise theres no point in a Wacom. Their display tablets are the only ones with enough technology to make the price somewhat worth it. Wacom is only the best because of its pens. Thats it.
It's got nothing to do with display you fucking idiot.
Same pen technology, same problems. Deco garbage is still garbage.

[Anonymous No.5096092]

>>5096077
>with a pen that does NOT have rotation.
Yes it does you retard. The Artist Pro 24 is one of the latest and most expensive XP Pens, and it is 100% marketed to have rotation. It doesn't work because XP Pen is total trash.

[Anonymous No.5096157]

>>5096092
Nta but I have the 24 and it only has tilt, not barrel rotation. Tilt is for painters anyway, not most of the coomer artists on /ic/ anyway. So for people who don't use tilt, XP is fine.
>i have a cintiq as a backup before you spaz out.
It's hard to be on Wacoms side when you're here acting like this.

[Anonymous No.5096168]

>>5096157
>it only has tilt
and it's broken, as seen here >>5095530
>It's hard to be on Wacoms side when you're here acting like this.
What makes you think I care about who you say you're aligning with, Chang? You're a worthless idiot.

[Anonymous No.5096207]

Is the Kamvas Pro 20 worth it? Is 1080p enough for such a screen size, or should I save up for the 24?

[Anonymous No.5096251]

>>5088847
the problem i have with samsung is their software is shit.
i am not sure how their tablets are, but their flagship phones are ass. i assume they use similar software.

[Anonymous No.5096293]

>>5096168
>This is the opinion of someone who doesn't draw
Didn't bother reading your post, lol.

[Anonymous No.5096296]

>>5095851
>schizo relies on posting youtube
Keep coping zoomer faggot

[Anonymous No.5096310]

>>5094664
S6 Lite should be fine as long as the screen is big enough for you.

When you're using SuperDisplay all of the heavy processing is done by the PC. The tablet is just displaying the screen image and communicating pen and touch inputs, so an S6 Lite is gonna be about as an S7 or S7+ (the S7/S7+ have further reduced pen latency, but it's not huge)

You'll get a bit of latency compared to a cintiq, but it's just barely noticeable in my experience.

For reference, I have a Tab S7+, Galaxy Note 8 (same pen latency as the Tab S6), and a Cintiq 13HD Touch.

So I can't speak on iPad experience. From what I've read, Astropad is your best way to connect to a PC as a pen display for iPad. No idea if it's as good as SuperDisplay.

[Anonymous No.5096316]

>>5095823
Cherry picked posts from reddit don't really give you a fair indication of actual device issues. I just went to the xp-pen sub and literally the entire page was people posting issues with their tablet.

[Anonymous No.5096343]

>>5096316
The whole reddit of Huion, XP pen and wacoms are all full of people who've found out that their tablets are complete garbage. Surprise, surprise, no company has any quality control whatsoever! In fact, that garbage is all likely made in the same factory in the first place.

This is why you should always keep your receipt and buy that shit from brick and mortar stores from people who will actually fulfill their end of the warranty. And don't think to yourself that samsung devices or ipads are immune to that bullshit either, but at least I'm sure those devices are built for actual practical use with the screen on are less likely to shit themselves than cintiqs or else an electronic giant (and not just a literal who like Wacom) would be getting sued.

[Anonymous No.5096344]

>>5096343
*reddits

[Anonymous No.5096358]

>>5096310
Is the latency of superdisplay more noticeable than on the 13hd? I basically have the same pen display so it would be a good frame of reference. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.5096360]

>>5096343
Hmm good point. Everything these days seem to be a piece of shit. I always buy from stores that have good return policies. You're only hurting yourself "supporting" smaller companies that dgaf if they sell you defective merchandise and charge you a re-stocking fee or expect you to go through the manufacturer. That being said, it's only ever a 30 day refund at most. Some places offer extended warranties at a retarded price and even then those warranties sometimes aren't worth the paper their printed on. I've been trying to find just a monitor for my computer and I've had to return 7 of them (from 4 different companies) because they were dog shit with qc issues. Corpos just don't seem to be held by and kind of standard anymore, they figure people will eat the shit they spew out and like it and just absorb the cost of whatever garbage they make that gets sent back to them.

[Anonymous No.5096408]

Is procreate worth getting an Ipad for?

[Anonymous No.5096411]

My sis got a Samsung Tab S7 to draw with at work.
Been thinking of nabbing something similar, tried hers out but that pen is TINY.

Are there any other alternatives? Preferably Wacom/Huion desktop sized.
Smaller pens give me pretty bad wrist pain.

[Anonymous No.5096437]

>>5096360
>they figure people will eat the shit they spew out and like it and just absorb the cost of whatever garbage they make that gets sent back to them
I guess the number of people who accept the garbage is greater than the number of people who try and send a defective product back and get a replacement. In any case, I think it's really important to check all products for defects etc.

[Anonymous No.5096471]

>>5088847
I got 100usd to burn, is there any good tablet for less than that?
one that doesn't finance Winnie the pooh?

[Anonymous No.5096512]

Are there any upcoming sales
Like black friday or amazon sale.
I want to get a get a galaxy tab s6 lite.

[Anonymous No.5096543]

>>5094908
Is there any other brand that I can plug into a phone or tablet? I don't want the wacom one because of how bad ive heard it is. Thats why I said cintiq alternates but I should say wacom alternatives

[Anonymous No.5096548]

>>5095435
They're fine, our OP is an autist from /pol/ who is anti china. I've had my 15.6 pro for a while and I still love it.

[Anonymous No.5096551]

>>5096512
Black Friday sales are after thanksgiving, you are very late for that. Maybe you can look for some after Christmas sale

[Anonymous No.5096556]

>>5096543
The latest Huion Kamvas 16 (2021 model) can be plugged into a tablet or phone. I think there's a list of compatible devices.

[Anonymous No.5096595]

>>5096408
Maybe for people who see Photoshop's interface and are overwhelmed. It can't do anything other art applications can, but it presents it in a clean and polished way.

[Anonymous No.5096694]

>>5088847
i BOUGHT AN xP pEN 24 INCHER AND I CAN DRAW BETTER NOW wtf

[Anonymous No.5096702]

>>5094255
You can pay $200 for the Wacom label with the same size active area and maybe your believing heart is magic. You can write with a chalk, but not if said chalk is broken. I can use the carpenter's triangle to tell my girlfriend I love her. This wrench has 6 notches. I hear that being an astronaut pays handsomely at 53 trillion dollars a month.

[Anonymous No.5096714]

>>5096089
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[Anonymous No.5096759]

>>5096702
Are you okay sir?

[Anonymous No.5096776]

>>5096556
Thank you I'll look into it!

[Anonymous No.5096780]

>>5094255
You can look into the Star or the later Deco series, they've improved a lot since the 1. If you want cheap you can try huion hs611.

[Anonymous No.5096814]

came here to say xp-pen is just okay. I can imagine there is a better budget option but gf gave it to me for a gift not really knowing much about tablets. The complaints I've seen here so far haven't translated to my experience. It's better then Huion at least ffs. I do wanna upgrade eventually ofc but I think people should take what they can get even if that isn't a tablet.

[Anonymous No.5096922]

>>5096543
Except it's not bad, that's just Chang desperately trying to sell Huions as seen here: >>5096556
Which you were retarded enough to be conned into believing: >>5096776

Huions are god awful.

[Anonymous No.5097044]

>>5096922
>never draw an entire drawing in its entire life
>claim to know how good a tablet is

[Anonymous No.5097096]

Is the defect rate for cintiq pros high?

[Anonymous No.5097103]

i thought i might regret it but im pretty glad i sprang for a display tablet.
line art is actually enjoyable now

[Anonymous No.5097104]

Op, why are you reverse trolling your own thread? That’s some 200 IQ play right there but I’d like to know why.

[Anonymous No.5097112]

>>5097104
Know what? Nevermind don’t answer that. Keep doin what you doin.

[Anonymous No.5097355]

>>5096471
There are no tablets manufactured outside of china.

[Anonymous No.5097364]

San i make CSP on Samsung toggle the eraser rather than enable only while i hold the button?

Also can I disable drawing by touch completely? It allows selecting the move tool for touch but I would prefer disabling completely.

[Anonymous No.5097428]

>>5096471
Intuos 3 off Ebay.

Don't waste your time on this moronic chink: >>5097355

[Anonymous No.5097510]

>>5088847
>avoid xp pen because it's Chinese
Not only is it a jap made tablet, but it's one of the better cheap display options.
Nice faggot shill thread

[Anonymous No.5097511]

>>5096814
This.

[Anonymous No.5097568]

>>5096471
S7. Wacom, xp, huion, gaomon, and the like are all made in china.
>its literally all over the packaging.

[Anonymous No.5097674]

>>5096922
Why do you do this, Wacom schizo?
Your persistence tells me this isn't simple trolling.
Does Wacom pay you commission for every sale you generate?
Do you have a grudge against China, are you a /pol/tard? Perhaps your high school crush rejected you then got an Asian boyfriend?
There must be a reason you are so willing to do this.

[Anonymous No.5097686]

>>5096922
If only you were as focused on producing art as you are on being a shitheel racist.

[Anonymous No.5097692]

has anyone got one of these? i stand up to work on my s6 lite but neck is killing me from looking down at the screen lying flat
please shill me a stand that is strong enough to handle drawing while in an angled standing position. keyboard would be a plus because tablet keyboards are aids

[Anonymous No.5097696]

>>5097674
>Does Wacom pay you commission for every sale you generate?
All my recommendations regarding Wacom products are on Ebay, which doesn't benefit any any tablet manufacturer, idiot.

Meanwhile you're eternally desperate to get people to buy Chinese garbage, especially direct from the chinese distributor themselves, which is why you continue to shill their fake sales.

[Anonymous No.5097699]

>>5097696
When I recommend Huion I link to their official store because it ships to a ton of countries. It's a question of practicality.
And while it has an affiliate program, none of the links I post are affiliate links so I don't earn anything.

[Anonymous No.5097702]

wow the shilling/fudding really happens every thread

[Anonymous No.5097703]

>>5097699
>When I recommend Huion I link to their official store because
You're a dumbfuck shill, it's as simple as that you worthless idiot.

Shipping is a laughable excuse, everyone knows how to use Amazon or Ebay. You shill Huion from the store directly because it gives them optimal profit margins, and less consumer protection. You're pathetic, Zhang.

It's all a moot point anyway, because both Huions and XP Pens are complete garbage that can't draw straight lines.

[Anonymous No.5097711]

>>5097703
post your work

[Anonymous No.5097773]

>>5097703
Stop sucking Wacom dick anon they will never fuck in ass

[Anonymous No.5097824]

>post work i did on my huion to provoke idiot
>pen button stops working
>panic, this must be karma
>update drivers, pen works, crisis averted
>mfw idiot can't draw and my huion still works

[Anonymous No.5097835]

>>5097824
I wish I had my Huion.
Fucking FedEx.

[Anonymous No.5097839]

How does a passive stylus works ? Does the tablet detect the pen or the nibs ?
My tablet stopped working, the cursor is not tracking the pen, and i want to know what is broken between the tablet in itself and the stylus.

I have a XP-Pen Artist 15.6, if anybody need to know.

[Anonymous No.5097849]

>>5097839
>My tablet stopped working, the cursor is not tracking the pen
Try ruling out the stupidest things first. In order, unplug and reconnect your tablet and see if it works, if not restart your PC, if not also reinstall latest drivers then restart again, if not try switching nibs.
As for what technology is used, it's explained here: https://essentialpicks.com/emr-stylus-how-wacom-pens-work/
(the post says Wacom, but this also applies for the latest offerings from the alternatives)

[Anonymous No.5097858]

>>5097849
I did all that, i even tried on two different PC and with a different cable.
If i understand your article correctly it means that it is the copper coil and not the nibs that receive and send EM signals to the tablet ? Meaning a tablet cannot detect a single nib, meaning that the possibility that it is the pen and not the tablet that is broken is not out of the question ?

[Anonymous No.5097874]

>>5097858
>meaning that the possibility that it is the pen and not the tablet that is broken is not out of the question ?
Yes, generally you want to rule out the least pricy items first. See if XP-Pen thinks about it if it's still under warranty (I've heard good things about their support), otherwise try paying for a new pen (make sure to choose the correct model for the tablet you've got) out of pocket.

[Anonymous No.5097875]

>>5097874
Thanks lad, will try that.

[Anonymous No.5097895]

>>5097696
You reccomend Wacoms official Ebay. So post your work or don't post the webm. Simple.

[Anonymous No.5097899]

>>5097895
>You reccomend Wacoms official Ebay
Show one example of me doing that, Ching Chong.

[Anonymous No.5097901]

>>5097895
He can't draw, so why would he post his work?

If he put his effort into producing something of worth, maybe he wouldn't be so bitter about how he wasted money on a Wacom only to still be shit at art.

[Anonymous No.5097908]

>>5097901
It's been said multiple times, but you're not owed any work, chinese idiot.
If I was stupid enough to post work, there is absolutely no doubt you'd be in a rush to dox and troll as fast as possible. All part of the chinese marketing strategy.

You've been given a webm that comprehensively proves XP Pen and Huion are garbage, and have been completely unable to refute it, no matter how much you desperately claim otherwise.

You're very obviously a shill, there is nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.5097915]

You would think that if a digitizer was that bad that the buyer is fully protected to send back their purchase within 30 to 60 days. Why then are you two bickering?

[Anonymous No.5097921]

>>5097915
All chinese digitizers are bad. Being a shit product doesn't make you eligible for a return.

[Anonymous No.5097927]

>>5097674
Its an autist from /g/. He gets banned now and then and tries to cover up his posts but always fails due to his lack of vocabulary so you can always tell its him. Just report them and ignore.

>>5096316
Yes, but the point was that a singular source showing shitty tablets doesnt prove anything. And you just agreed with that, so yeah.

>>5097096
Ive heard bad stories, but mine works fine for now. Im in the EU so Im covered for 2 years regardless. If it dies precisely when the warranty ends then Im never touching Wacom again.

[Anonymous No.5097943]

>>5097915
I'm killing time during breaks from working on stuff, I dunno what anyone else's problem is.

[Anonymous No.5098005]

question:
are there any drawing tablets that can keep up with fast writing without lagging behind?
i write pretty damn fast. on all the tablets i tried they start lagging behind and missing stroles

[Anonymous No.5098058]

>>5097921
yes it does, thats what 30 day return windows are for you absolute idiot

[Anonymous No.5098061]

>>5098058
>missing the point
Like the utter braindead idiot you are.
You're eligible for a return under consumer law if something isn't working as advertised. Your shitty chink tablets work as advertised, they're just worthless garbage compared to the actual good tablets.

[Anonymous No.5098069]

>>5098061
>schizo using the word idiot again

Another case of brutal irony. Anyway cupcake, the point is is that yes, if you order through Amazon like 99.9% of people do, you can return your order for no reason whatsoever within a month. While yes, being a bad product in itself isnt a reason to return it to the manufacturer, that also wasnt the point being made by the guy you responded to, because you cant read.

[Anonymous No.5098078]

>>5088847
>Intuos Pro M
Low on money, can get a Intuos Pro M refurbished for 260 euro instead of 386 new price. In recc it says it is best non-display but I wanna be certain cause its big money for me..

[Anonymous No.5098081]

>>5098078
If you're on a budget, get an Intuos 3 for $60.
They work fine, won't give you any problems, and durable as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5098085]

>>5098078
Did it ever occur to you that the recc could have been written by an imbecile? Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.5098090]

>>5098085
thats why im fucking asking you retard

[Anonymous No.5098095]

>>5098090
You didnt fucking read the thread then did you, lollypop. Go on, buy a handmedown tablet with no warranty and limited driver support. Or better yet, pay the 260 euro for a fucking screenless tablet.

[Anonymous No.5098099]

>>5098081
>Intuos 3
not available in any stores nor secondhand at my countries ebay, and I worked a lot of overtime this month so this would be like a christmas present to myself.

[Anonymous No.5098107]

>>5098095
just some people saying the drivers are bad and sorry i cant afford some expensive drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.5098111]

>>5098085
You're just desperate to shill chinese rubbish though.

>>5098099
Look for Intuos Pro 2013s as well, along with Intuos 4 and 5s.
If none are available, then the 260euro tablet might be your best bet, along with a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite if you're ok with getting a display tablet.

[Anonymous No.5098118]

>>5098111
thanks

[Anonymous No.5098134]

>>5097908
Somw of us are here looking for recommendations and I can't trust a recommendation from someone who isn't in my field. So if you don't draw, stop suggesting me Wacoms because it's super suspicious. If you have none of your own actual experience to offer, stop replying.

[Anonymous No.5098163]

>>5098061
People have legit posted examples of work on Huion products, shitting all over your anecdotal clip, and you've posted fuck all to prove your opinion has any weight, likely b/c you don't even draw.

Did you lose an art contest to someone using a Huion or something?

[Anonymous No.5098188]

>>5098111
Non artists opinions are worthless here. You dont use these things so your views are irrelevant.

>>5098118
The dude you responded to is notoriously retarded, hence you should check the thread.

In general, for display tablets the best of the best are the cintiq pros. For non displays, wacom offer truly shit value for money. The intuos you were recommended have very shoddy USB ports and absolutely 0 (zero) warranty or support. Your drivers will also shit themselves because those tablets have been out of production for years. If you want cheap screenless tablets, get one of these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmKvPUsbFg

>furious schizohands are now typing

At least come up with something new this time, please.

[Anonymous No.5098215]

>>5098163
No they haven't, idiot. You haven't posted shit.

>>5098188
Yep, you're extremely desperate to sell those Huions alright, Zhang.
Unfortunately, they're still frail, can't draw straight lines without wobble, and have hard pressure tapers.

No matter how desperately you shill, it won't make Huion any less trash. By the way, you haven't posted any work.

[Anonymous No.5098219]

>>5098215
Neither have you.

[Anonymous No.5098222]

>>5098219
But I have posted video evidence of chinese tablets being garbage >>5095530

and you've only ever cried in response.
Huion is garbage, XP Pen is garbage. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.5098260]

>>5098215
I've been posting sketches and drawings I've done on the thing for the last 2 hours, you actual dumbass.

No one's shilling anything except you, since you only seem to recommend Wacoms, but I don't know why, since no matter what you use, you'll never be as good at drawing as you are at being a derailing annoyance.

[Anonymous No.5098271]

>>5098215
>same old shit
predictable, boring, tiring, low iq, sad.

May as well make something to show the rest of you to show i actually draw shit, the schizo will say its fake because he has to. He wont post work but at least I can screencap him getting owned again for a new collage.

[Anonymous No.5098297]

>>5098215
Schizo is right, these tablets pick up on the most smallest vibration that your body gives off. Thus you get these wobbly ass lines that fuck up your art even if you have absolute control in your gorilla hands. These machines are sensitive like the chinese

[Anonymous No.5098301]

>>5098297
so desperate for a friend, he's insulting himself to bolster his argument

[Anonymous No.5098310]

How big is the wacom cintiq 24 pro? How annoying is it to haul it in your car or smth if you wanna move it?

[Anonymous No.5098312]

>>5098297
>these tablets pick up on the most smallest vibration that your body gives off.
It's actually an issue with the digitizer, Chang, which is why they're wobbly even when you use a ruler. No such problems exist on Wacoms, iPads or Galaxy Tabs. Even Old Wacoms like the Intuos 3 don't have the same line wobble as your garbage Huion.

[Anonymous No.5098316]

>>5098312
now he's conversating with himself

[Anonymous No.5098353]

>avoid XP pen
I just got one though cause I couldn't justify buying a good cintiq at my skill level. Am I gonna be okay? They don't look too bad and my friend makes good art on his.

[Anonymous No.5098358]

>>5098353
It just means you will have to use a stabilizer to mitigate line wobble.
Does that mean you can't make good art? No, but it can still be an annoyance for many artists.

[Anonymous No.5098372]

>>5098358
I'm already sorta used that so it's fine.

[Anonymous No.5098376]

>>5098358
>>5098372
In fact, the tablet I've been using for ages (a wacom) has that problem. So imm pretty convinced a lot of this is shilling.

[Anonymous No.5098399]

>>5098353
nah you're good. xp pen makes some good stuff and the tablet doesn't introduce any more wobble than my old intuos 3 did. i'm using a 22E for what it's worth

>>5098358
honestly the parallax is probably a bigger problem for most artists. it can be overcome by "feeling" where you're drawing rather than looking at the cursor/tip of the pen, but it's still several orders of magnitudes more comfortable than the insane disconnect between hand/eye when using regular digitizer tablets

[Anonymous No.5098990]

>>5096411
>tiny
do you have ogre hands or something?
>Are there any other alternatives?
any emr pen will work with the tablet, eg. wacom pro pen

[Anonymous No.5099007]

>>5098215
Have you considered the fact that your wobbly lines exist because you haven't picked up a pen ever you non drawing retarded schizo? Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5099138]

>have to plug tablet's HDMI into computer
wait, do i have to manually unplug my monitor and replace its HDMI with my tablet's HDMI every single fuckin time i want to use it or am i missing something? help i don't know what a computer is

[Anonymous No.5099180]

Ok the Samsung S7+ is legit.
It feels super cool the pen is great and supports rotation, the applications magically run faster than on a monster PC, perhaps having limited resources made them actually optimize their shit.

I'm still not used to drawing on a screen but making my own super basic brushes made it easier, when literally everything depends on pressure angle and speed that makes getting exactly what you want a lot more difficult. Although i admit it feels cool.

Now i see why the shchizo is screeching about tilt all the time, all the mobile apps have every single brush with tilt.

As for the software both Infinite Painter and CSP are really cool, infinite painter has a friendlier interface though. Definitely worth the purchase.

>>5099138
Most computers have multiple display outputs. If yours doesn't then yes.

[Anonymous No.5099184]

>>5098990
>any emr pen will work with the tablet, eg. wacom pro pen

I wouldn't be so sure.
They might have different protocols or whatnot.

My S7+ actually detects the Xp Pen but it doesn't detect the pressure. The Xp tablet though doesn't detect the S Pen but it goes completely haywire from the magnetic pen charging readind all the random inputs, printing EFhckhdThchHdhhv and even making the system buzzer beep.

[Anonymous No.5099220]

is it just me or is there very subtle but still noticeable chromatic aberration on the galaxy tab s7's screen? I swear to god its driving me fucking crazy

[Anonymous No.5099246]

>>5099220
Its called sub pixels

[Anonymous No.5099263]

>>5099246
cool. still annoying though.

[Anonymous No.5099274]

>>5099138
As >>5099180 said, most computers have multiple outputs. But if you're plugging in to a computer with a dedicated GPU you'll probably want to look at what ports it has. Mine only has 1 HDMI and 3x DisplayPort so I got an HDMI to DP adapter.

[Anonymous No.5099418]

>>5098990
It's that thin, elliptical profile.
I'm being picky, but I had tendonitis. I really don't want it flaring up again.

A real brush is thin but requires no pressure/force
A charcoal pen is thin and requires force but can be gripped overhand
A digital pen requires force, so I need it to be light and fat.
>>5099180
Yeah my sis really liked hers, she hated her iPad (found the Pencil painful) but can draw comfortably for hours with her S7.
Apparently it's quite bad for multitasking though

[Anonymous No.5100170]

>>5099180
Make sure you keep your receipts and proof of purchase etc. There are a bunch of unhappy users on reddit whose s7 pen nib fell apart on the very first day (as opposed to the solid S6 pens) and then realised that Samsung doesn't sell nibs so they thought they had to buy another pen. They actually managed to get free nibs by bugging customer support and supposedly you can order Samsung nibs but only the old ones and one of the users found the compatible one so you should look that up right now in case your nibs fall apart

[Anonymous No.5100182]

Here's the thread and all the issues/method of getting delicious free replacement nibs in case your S7 pen sucks dicks
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/isc6xb/nips_for_s_pen_on_tab_s7/

[Anonymous No.5100189]

>Cintiq Pro 24 Ergo Stand is $500
Is there an alternative?

[Anonymous No.5100213]

>>5100189
Get an Ergotron lx arm or the Amazon basics arm. Youll need a VESA adapter because Wacom are kikes, but it holds it no problem

[Anonymous No.5100250]

My budget is 600 dollars. Should I get the samsung tab s6 lite?
I already have a tablet for my pc.
I want one for on the go.

[Anonymous No.5100257]

>>5100250
600 aud I should add

[Anonymous No.5100263]

Should I get the s7 or s7+?
The s7+ is a bit too much for me but if it's a lot better than the s7 I guess I could buy it.

[Anonymous No.5100328]

>>5100263
S7 is fine, the main thing you get from upgrading to + is larger size. It still shouldn't be that big of an issue to get used to 11".

[Anonymous No.5100474]

Who's ready for the Wacom shill to force this thread to safe so he can make a new one before anyone can correct his misinformation?

It's my favorite part.

[Anonymous No.5100477]

>>5100474
>>5089234
for ref, lmao

[Anonymous No.5100508]

>>5089423
I was thinking of buying one of these but wasn't sure if it would work. How vertical can it get?

[Anonymous No.5100533]

>>5096358
Sorry for not seeing this for 2 days. I might try and do a direct comparison today, but here's what I recall (in case I get lazy or forget, because it's New Years and shit)

The latency is slightly worse in superdisplay, but it's not something I notice most of the time I'm working, and it's much better than I've dealt with natively in Photoshop by just having a worse computer years ago. I've also been using it over wifi. It's supposed to be even lower latency over a USB connection, but it works well enough over wifi that I haven't felt the need to use USB since wireless gives me the freedom to go anywhere that connects to the wifi, rather than being only a few feet from my desktop.

If you search "S6 Lite Superdisplay" you can find a few demo videos that cover this specific comparison. (Here's an alright one. Relevant demonstration starts about 3 minutes in: https://youtu.be/QTS_5-cYWgM))

[Anonymous No.5100778]

>>5100170
Yeah the default pressure setting feels like you need to press on it retardedly hart to get 100% and the nib wouldn't live long like that so I set all the pressure curves to max out at 30%.

[Anonymous No.5100779]

>>5100778
Which just goes to show pressure levels are a meme.
The thing that really matters is pressure consistency.

[Anonymous No.5101122]

anyone have any recs for an adjustable stand for artist pro 15.6?
is it bad to draw at a near perpendicular angle to your table?

[Anonymous No.5101130]

>>5101122
Wacom are the only brand in the market who dont supply stands with their shit. xp pen tablets will come with an adjustable stand.

[Anonymous No.5101133]

>>5101130
yeah it came with one. Sturdy enough, but it only has one angle and my desk is a little tall

[Anonymous No.5101138]

>>5101133
Are you sure? I tried the 15.6 pro back in march and I cant remember it only having one angle. Isnt there a lever you can pull up and then just adjust it?

[Anonymous No.5101148]

>>5101138
No thats the 22 and 24 models. The 15 and smaller have the single angle plastic stand. Hence why people recommended Artusuls stand, since it has multiple angles.

[Anonymous No.5101155]

>>5101148
just searched it up and its like $60 CAD. sounds like a bit much, no?

[Anonymous No.5101215]

>>5101130
>xp pen tablets will come with an adjustable stand.
And surprise surprise, they're shit, just like their tablets and pens.

[Anonymous No.5101222]

>>5101215
Pyw

[Anonymous No.5101237]

>>5101222
Post yours first, chinese moron.

[Anonymous No.5101358]

>have intuos 4 m for years
>always want cintiq
>find out current favourite illutrator uses intuos pro s because dont like moving arm around
>wtf.exe
>try s size screen with my m in wacom settings
>wtf this is better?

[Anonymous No.5101363]

Got an opportunity to pick up an IPad Pro 12.9'' 64gb 2nd gen with a Pencil for 400. Good deal or should I hold out?

[Anonymous No.5101396]

i kind of doubt you can work as fast and precise with a screenless tablet vs a display one

[Anonymous No.5101409]

>>5101363
Sounds like a good deal to me, I got a similar deal about 6 months ago, but not as good as that one.

[Anonymous No.5101411]

>>5101396
You 100% can.

[Anonymous No.5101439]

>>5101411
prove it
and don't post that one Chinese guy as proof

[Anonymous No.5101445]

Deco Pro has a shit cable that disconnects when wiggled
I'm going to contact XP Pen and ask for a refund or a replacement or something but you should know

[Anonymous No.5101462]

>>5101439
There are literally countless people in the industry who prefer to work with screenless. Once you adjust your hand eye coordination, there is no advantage of having a screen.

[Anonymous No.5101468]

>>5101396
>precise
Means nothing. Tools don't make you more precise.

>fast
Screenless is arguably faster because your hand doesn't get in the way of your drawing.

[Anonymous No.5101470]

[Anonymous No.5101474]

>>5100250
Sure

[Anonymous No.5101475]

>>5101445
This.

[Anonymous No.5101477]

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[Anonymous No.5101481]

>>5101468
>Means nothing. Tools don't make you more precise.
lineart is way easier. don't have to take a guess when drawing lines. of course depending on your artstyle it may not benefit you at all, but still
>your hand doesn't get in the way of your drawing.
i hear this all the time but i don't think I've ever noticed it or had a problem with it. it's easier than having to have your brain translate hand movement to a screen in a different location

[Anonymous No.5101483]

>>5101481
>lineart is way easier. don't have to take a guess when drawing lines. of course depending on your artstyle it may not benefit you at all, but still
Wrong. You're just not used to drawing screenless.
Intuos 3 was industry standard for several years, and many professionals to this day still use them. Many of them can't stand drawing on display tablets.

>i hear this all the time but i don't think I've ever noticed it or had a problem with it
Again, that's you. Stop projecting your personal difficulties onto everyone. Not everyone can seamlessly adapt to screenless, but there are many who can, and work far more efficiently that way.