/BEG/ - Beginner thread

[Anonymous No.5087786]

F YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.
Previous Thread: >>5080801

[Anonymous No.5087787]

>>5080801
>>5087786

[Anonymous No.5087796]

>>5087786
I drew a spearmen. I feel like Im starting to understand what I'm doing but I still have issues with form and symbol drawing stuff. But I think I just need to draw more and eventually "it'll click", but thats what people have been telling me.

[Anonymous No.5087804]

My Christmas drawing. I’m not a furry.

[Anonymous No.5087805]

>>5087786
Drew some people from imagination, i think im improving little by little

[Anonymous No.5087810]

Got a week to get this habit more consistent.

Which courses should I go with?

I might want to do more than one at once, so I can pace one more normally and rush through one or a couple others. I have some other standard ones too, but these should get me good.

[Anonymous No.5087842]

>>5087810
I recommend the Marshall Vandruff perspective series

[Anonymous No.5087898]

>>5087786
Repostin
>>5087052
What am I doing?

How to hair?

Waiting for linework to destroy any aesthetic appeal.

Still, learning a lot pushing through with this.

[Anonymous No.5087915]

>>5087804
Legs look broken, but I like the coloring style.

[Anonymous No.5087918]

>>5087796
Are you still doing studies and grinding fundies? You used to post a lot of those.

[Anonymous No.5087937]

Absolute /beg/ here , i'm halfway through the first reads and planning on what to do after i finish them , i looked at the learning paths on the mega thread and liked the Watts atelier Ilustrator and concept artist path , but idk if it's recommended for a total /beg/ , or should i take a more begginer friendly path like RadioRunners , any opinions anons?

[Anonymous No.5087939]

One minute gestures. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.5087945]

I have trouble translating forms into simplified shapes, could anyone share a good video on that?

[Anonymous No.5087966]

[Anonymous No.5087983]

First lineart study, please critique

[Anonymous No.5087984]

>>5087983

[Anonymous No.5087999]

>>5087983
I think it looks way too thick

[Anonymous No.5088008]

>>5087983
cringe

[Anonymous No.5088014]

>>5088008
You need to be 18 to use 4chan anon.

[Anonymous No.5088017]

>>5087937

whatever you path you choose, dont treat the studies as a grind. godspeed and good luck anon

[Anonymous No.5088038]

>>5088017
I say find the balance.
https://youtu.be/VhG7DENh-uk

[Anonymous No.5088060]

>>5088038
great watch, especially on the quick explanation on how to study.

[Anonymous No.5088086]

>>5087786
This is my first drawing I've done. I've just used my hands to draw this. Is it good or bad.

[Anonymous No.5088088]

>>5088086
Full process

[Anonymous No.5088089]

>>5088088
+background

[Anonymous No.5088103]

I've been told I have to work on my perspective

Any advice on how to improve this before I start drawing the clothes?

[Anonymous No.5088104]

>>5088086
it's bad of course it's bad do you expect to start off good?

[Anonymous No.5088132]

Thoughts? Drew this from imagination using what I learned about perspective. I had a lot of trouble doing the head, I'll start studying anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5088145]

>>5088104
No that's why I'm on /beg/

[Anonymous No.5088173]

Thanks for last tips. Anything to fix before color?

[Anonymous No.5088192]

>>5087796
Not bad, nice sense of depth overall. I think the first thin you should work on is studying how the head connects to the neck, and also fix that case of almond eyes your guy's got there. If you figure those bits out it'll look way better. Solid effort overall though.

[Anonymous No.5088261]

can i get critique on this piece, how I can improve it etc

[Anonymous No.5088274]

>>5088132
Not bad
You have quite a few fuckups in your perspective
Also the shadows on the cape make Batman look dummy thick

[Anonymous No.5088320]

>>5088261
It doesn't really fit the background

[Anonymous No.5088340]

>>5087918
Yeah everyday, I just stopped posting them because I assumed no one really cared

[Anonymous No.5088361]

>>5088340
Ive been mainly doing imagination poses and rotate box stuff as fundie grinds now though

[Anonymous No.5088363]

>>5088340
Ive been mainly doing imagination poses and rotate box stuff as my grind now though

[Anonymous No.5088364]

>>5088173
She has no chin and it looks weird imo

[Anonymous No.5088367]

Any tips for how I could improve at anatomy, poses and volume from this pic onwards?

[Anonymous No.5088370]

How do I do studies?

[Anonymous No.5088417]

>>5087786
I am having some technical issues working with large images.

The images are for print, and must come out almost a meter square and I have no idea how to manage them.
I spent a week trying to make vectors but I don't know how best to approach this.

I create the images on photoshop- but struggle to vectorize them, it's arduous and goes on top of the work already done on photoshop.
Then I have to work out how to print the vector image across multiple sheets of paper- something which I assumed wouldn't be an issue but is.

I tried making the images directly in vector- but they contain photo elements and I just can't eyeball them no matter how many times I try

[Anonymous No.5088499]

I think that one Chinese guy is gone for good thankfully.

[Anonymous No.5088573]

I was in the mood and tried to draw pin up art. I like how the breasts turn out but I really hate the eyes.
Anything else that stands out as really bad that I might be missing?
Also its supposed to be a Yordle

[Anonymous No.5088593]

>>5087805
study how the waist connects to the hip
and how the hip connection to the legs
on a skeletal level, then on a muscular level.

[Anonymous No.5088597]

Will not finish it

[Anonymous No.5088629]

>>5088573
... I made her forearm too short
Fuck

[Anonymous No.5088712]

>>5088593
Thank you for the advice. Yeah that's an area that gives me trouble, also the sides of the ribcage are hard (between the lats and the abs)

[Anonymous No.5088718]

>>5088597
thank god

[Anonymous No.5088736]

>>5088103
idk about perspective, but I would study the anatomy of how the pec and lat get into armpit area. I fixed it a bit, it's not perfect and it doesn't look great, but hopefully it gets the idea across

also his right foot looks a bit wonky

[Anonymous No.5088796]

>>5087983
>lineart
>no lineweight at all

[Anonymous No.5088802]

>>5087983
Your reference is a small blurry piece of jpg garbage and you didn't even try to imitate the lineart of it.

[Anonymous No.5088803]

Metabee and chainsaw hoe

[Anonymous No.5088812]

So, I haven't drawn in like 6 years. I got a small intuous drawing pad for christmas so im trying to learn how to draw now.

[Anonymous No.5088814]

>>5088812
how do I make circles / elipses that dont look like shit? It seems really awkward to try to draw them with my shoulders, especially when I draw them at weird angles.

[Anonymous No.5088829]

>>5088814
You'd be better off starting with traditional, then move to digital later once your muscle memory improves

[Anonymous No.5088832]

>>5088829
but the muscles used in the hand are completely different to traditional? holding a drawing stylus like a pen ive heard is very bad.

[Anonymous No.5088878]

First time trying to study anatomy a bit more seriously. idk how I should go about doing this really.
1st and 2nd is done by eyeballing while in 3rd I'm using my stylus as a rough angle stick.

[Anonymous No.5088966]

>>5088802
There are better ways to tell him that, come on, don't be an asshole.
>>5087983
Your choice of reference could do some improving, pick big and simple for now, you've got some accuracy but I think you're working under a misconception of what lineart actually is, 3D forms have weight to them, your drawing looks flat because you've got the accuracy on a 2D image, keep at it.

[Anonymous No.5088997]

>>5088736

Yeah, I'm not very satisfied with his right side in general

As for the foot, I'm trying to show that the knee is closer and the leg and foot go back... but yeah, it looks weird

[Anonymous No.5089060]

>>5088878
>
source on that ref? plus take more time in mesuring out where things shoukld be

[Anonymous No.5089068]

how do i apply Perspective and anatomy together?

[Anonymous No.5089104]

Rate this meduka

[Anonymous No.5089151]

>>5089104
it's cute

her hair seems pretty desaturated though

[Anonymous No.5089206]

>>5087937
Read the doc that the OP linked completely, do the exercises, read loomis, hampton and then go for the watts course.

"RadioRunner's curriculum for the Solo Artist" is really good, but read the google doc that I mentioned before first.

[Anonymous No.5089212]

>>5089060
Here you go:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xJD8kE
found it by browsing anatomy section
Yeah, I should have been more meticulous with measuring.

>>5089068
draw human shape out of boxes and wrap anatomy around it?

[Anonymous No.5089220]

>>5089212
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xJD8kE
thanks anonbro

[Anonymous No.5089236]

>>5087898
form looks good m8, i like those muscles

[Anonymous No.5089252]

>>5089151
Thanks anon
I tried brighter pink but it looks out of place instead.

[Anonymous No.5089263]

>>5089252
Yeah i think it's because the saturation of the image as a whole is pretty low.

Just some slight adjustments here, but its up to your preference

[Anonymous No.5089273]

Just finished this for a drawthread on /tg/.

I have a lot of issues with it but honestly I'm pretty happy. From rough sketch to inked final it only took 5ish hours. It's not impressive but it has helped me realise how far I've come.

But yeah guys rip this thing apart.

>>5089236
Thanks man. I'm just afraid she doesn't read as a she. I want her arms to still be as thick as a guys torso but how the fuck do you make that look ladylike?

[Anonymous No.5089361]

>>5088173
i don't get the angle f this pic, from the nipples and below it seems like an angle from above and vice versa, like the other anon said she's a chinlet, her forehead is huge, her boobs are too rigid and their form is asymmetric, if there's no bra they should sag, the whole hips area is off i don't know if she's supposed to be about to stand up or about to sit if it is the latter then her legs are way too low in her hips and flat, her vag or labia shouln't be seen here unless she was standing up.

[Anonymous No.5089362]

I used one of the refs from "Super Pose Book Nude" in the Mega post

How am i supposed to go from ref to imagination.

Do i just practice drawing the ref and then the same pose from imagination?
Or just practicing construction and i should be able to construct any pose?

[Anonymous No.5089374]

>>5089362
what I do to practice is draw from ref until I get a feel on how the body act in different pose. Then from time to time I go to a draw thread on any board and try and some of the request.

[Anonymous No.5089434]

>>5088173
the body looks pretty good, expect for the shoulders and the head. make the deltoid much bigger in correlation to the angle. especially the left deltoid, it needs to be bigger to make sense in how close the the angle is to the anime girl. the right deltoid should be mostly hidden but still should get increase in size. secondly, the head, the head is quite fine but doesn't make sense according the neck and the chest (two big landmarks you should use when making the head.) in this pic, the neck looks too wide for the head. either, make the head bigger in coordination of the neck or make the neck smaller(which will look like a kid with a mature body, to which if ya like then i aint judging.) if you make the head bigger also make sure to make the hands bigger. you can get away with slightly bigger hands then you can with a slightly bigger head that. make the hands the length of the forearm, not the volume though remember that. the hair is suffering from the small head so if biggify that head that will fix that. honestly, art isnt even beg its more int with beg mistakes. get those beg tier mistakes out of your habits and you will make a fine artist anon!!!!!

[Anonymous No.5089468]

>>5089273
> giving the girl goat eyes. I like that.
Imo, the head looks big (because of the hair maybe?), and the mouth placement is a bit low.

[Anonymous No.5089488]

Should I spend the entire day tomorrow studying proportion? I keep unintentionally making my characters 5-6 heads tall making them looks like manlets. Also legs really messed up on this for some reason. Im starting to feel form and detail a bit more though

[Anonymous No.5089493]

>>5089488
it never hurts to study something that youre weak at.

[Anonymous No.5089505]

>>5089493
Whats the main exercise for proportion study?

[Anonymous No.5089533]

>>5089505
I don't really know, I guess try to follow the proportion guild in one of the books(loomis, etc) and draw. I just try to draw from ref and comparing them to see what I need work on.

[Anonymous No.5089542]

>>5089488
>>5089493
dun no if you can isolate proportions to any considerable degree, most people get good at proportions from mileage alone. the best would probably be to boxify figures from ref though.

[Anonymous No.5089560]

>>5089542
>>5089533
I suppose I'll copy some of that stuff from the Loomis book and just draw in the meantime. I suppose it'll come with time

[Anonymous No.5089609]

I basically got some poses and rotated them in my head and drew them so they're partially from imagination. How did I do? I didn't really put effor into details like toes and fingers.

[Anonymous No.5089639]

How is the improvement? I just finished the right one a few days ago

[Anonymous No.5089642]

>>5089639
Left: Soul
Right: Soulless

[Anonymous No.5089645]

>>5089642
If by soul you mean shit. Those eye highlights and hips are real fuckin bad

[Anonymous No.5089646]

>>5089642
PYW and explain how to give "soul" to your work.

[Anonymous No.5089650]

>>5089639
left: has personality despite not being technically good
right: generic christmas pin-up

[Anonymous No.5089651]

>>5089609
not bad and good study idea. The proportions could use some work though, the legs seem long.

[Anonymous No.5089654]

>>5089650
E-girl miku is not a good personality

[Anonymous No.5089659]

>>5089646

[Anonymous No.5089682]

>>5089639
I think you should fall back to using more well-defined lines. Your grasp on things isn't good enough to really benefit from a lineless painted look, but I think it could look pretty decent with darker contrast on the linework. You drew the hands too fucking small on the right.

[Anonymous No.5089690]

>>5089646
>explain how to give "soul" to your work.
Try very hard without proper knowledge. Soulful work usually displays emotion very well even though its presented crudely.

[Anonymous No.5089696]

>>5089654
>drawing has enough soul to make a judgement on the quality of the character's personality
guess that settles that then

[Anonymous No.5089702]

>>5089659
"soul" level 4/10

[Anonymous No.5089713]

>>5089702
Soul line please.

[Anonymous No.5089717]

>>5089659
> Mom I learnt how to draw lines using the curve tool.

[Anonymous No.5089721]

>>5089717
Learn how to draw confident S and C curves faggot

[Anonymous No.5089723]

>>5089659
>>5089702
>>5089713
No problem pal.

[Anonymous No.5089724]

>>5089659
I've seen your work several times here and I can confidently say that it's the most stiff and soulless stuff I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.5089727]

>>5089682
I honestly always hated the way my art looked with linework. To be fair that Miku was the first human I’ve drawn since April 2019 so a lot of my regular art shit was pushed on her. I still need to find my way of drawing humans again and I guess this ain’t it

[Anonymous No.5089734]

what teacher do you recommend for drawing the figure? I'm trying vilppu right now but he's too slow for me

[Anonymous No.5089751]

>>5089723

[Anonymous No.5089758]

>>5089659
>anime fan art
>front facing bust shot
>stiff, thin linework
>no color, no background
Absolutely soulless

[Anonymous No.5089763]

>>5089751
This isn’t much better

[Anonymous No.5089765]

>>5089751
Now it looks like one of those anime maker flash games

[Anonymous No.5089770]

>>5089763

[Anonymous No.5089773]

>>5089770
Soul, looks like something I would make during computer time in 4th grade

[Anonymous No.5089774]

>>5089770
Now that’s SOUL

[Anonymous No.5089791]

>>5089770
SOUL

[Anonymous No.5089799]

>>5089770

[Anonymous No.5089800]

>>5089799
Not quite

[Anonymous No.5089804]

>>5089800

[Anonymous No.5089809]

>>5087786
Having trouble with lighting and shading. I can do cel shading but I'm trying to learn other ways to do lighting and I'm having a bit of difficulty

[Anonymous No.5089812]

>>5089809
my autistic ass forgot to resize the image so here's the resized version

[Anonymous No.5089818]

>>5089770
"sovl" level 9/10

[Anonymous No.5089828]

>>5089809
>>5089812
I really like it. If I could fix anything is probably smooth out her jaw, it seems a tad bit too long. If you cover it with your hand it looks good.

In terms of lighting/painting you should consult your favorite artists, try to watch speed paints or look at a reference. I think you understand painting to a degree, you just need to look at references now. Your light sources seem kinda all over the place, make sure you have a united light source for your picture. Your background feels a bit flat, so for now just don't worry about it and paint on a toned canvas.

It looks good so far!

[Anonymous No.5089839]

>draw crude shitty coom art and post on pixiv
>gets more views and likes then anything that is not sexual EVEN if the non sexual art is better quality
Kill all coomers

[Anonymous No.5089841]

>>5089839
pyw I want to fap anon

[Anonymous No.5089842]

repostin
Can someone give me some advice on how I would improve this on a second try?

[Anonymous No.5089848]

help.

[Anonymous No.5089850]

>>5089809
You gotta fix that chin mate

[Anonymous No.5089853]

>>5089848
Calarts

[Anonymous No.5089861]

>>5089848
I can tell you tried anon, like you actually even bothered to draw a BG, but the art style and expression on the face removes any possible eroticism

[Anonymous No.5089876]

>>5089848
Her legs make it look like she’s floating

[Anonymous No.5089884]

>>5089848
bitch i dont wanna see your poo hole

[Anonymous No.5089886]

>>5089842
more realistic anatomy, a background, lighting coming from a light source. its very good but minimal and p stylized so reaaallly push those fundies to get the most out of ur drawing

[Anonymous No.5089891]

>>5087796
yeet

[Anonymous No.5089908]

>>5089891
Look worse.

[Anonymous No.5089914]

Thanks /ic/, I think I'm starting to remember that love for drawing I had when I was young, the one at the bottom was done for fun and love, yeah, quick thing but I'm going to get better
Currently trying gesture, feeling the form (not doing a great job at it) and well, fun
Unsure what to do next, checking out Vilppu Drawing Manual, back to the basics

[Anonymous No.5089917]

>>5089361
Holy im so retarded, i knew something is off with leg/hips. Thanks.

>>5089434
thanks, did some minor changes.


How's it lookin now?

[Anonymous No.5089918]

>>5089914
Thanks /ic/ and thanks /beg/

[Anonymous No.5089923]

>>5089917
The nipples need to be bigger for those tits. As breast size gets bigger so do the nipples

[Anonymous No.5089925]

>>5089917
face 10 year old
torso 18 year old

[Anonymous No.5089926]

>>5089914
Keep practicing anon. And draw your cross contours all the way around as if you were wrapping string around glass. That gesture drawing also looks good, but I’d suggest spending less time constructing the head (and do several dozen more drawings)

[Anonymous No.5089929]

>>5089914
gmi

[Anonymous No.5089930]

>>5089917
The nips need to be lower and a bit bigger

[Anonymous No.5089940]

>>5089926
I don't understand neither contours nor form as of now, I do a quick motion, ellipsis around whatever I want or try to carefully draw what I imagine but it's not working out.
How do I make the jump from gesture drawing to figure drawing? I've been trying but I don't know how the body works

[Anonymous No.5089945]

>>5089925
as it should be

[Anonymous No.5089948]

[Anonymous No.5089958]

>>5089876
I know what you mean, I think its because the angle of her feet and my incompetence on drawing the fabrics creases in the towel...

>>5089861
Except she is gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.5089967]

>>5089940
The thing that sucks about learning to draw is that stuff like form and contour can be defined and explained to you, but in my experience many of those concepts have to be experimented with and put into practice until you build an intuition and things just “look right” or they don’t.
You can make the jump from gesture to figure drawing whenever, but the results will be ugly until you’re more comfortable with form. Vilippu sensei will show you the way.

[Anonymous No.5089977]

>>5089967
And right you were, I did two horrible attempts at figure, plain abortions.
Anon, are you sure about Vilppu? Completely certain, I can't afford to waste another 4 months learning nothing, improving slowly, I need it now.
No matter how many times people explain form to me, I can't grasp it, it's like color to the colorblind, or music to the deaf.
I'm doing those bean things but it's all meh

[Anonymous No.5089979]

>>5089917
hands have gotten better, thats about it. arms still dont feel like they have volume. head is pretty alright though.

[Anonymous No.5089980]

>>5089958
It’s bad anon, she’s fucking ugly

[Anonymous No.5089997]

velvet crowe

[Anonymous No.5090013]

trying to actually put characters in a scene rather than floating in a void. I wanted to convey motion, which I attempted through the bottom girl's hair, but i don't know how well motion lines and stuff will translate to lineart if I were to clean this up. Im happy with the feet, i think.

[Anonymous No.5090021]

>>5089977
As long as you are drawing and using your brain, you will improve Akechiposter. All Vilippu and other teachers are doing, is teaching you things you would learn on your own with practice. Trust me, the day you finally draw something you are really happy with the dopamine release is something else, and totally worth it. Just keep drawing and taking in new information. Analyze both your own art and other people’s art to figure out what works and what doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.5090053]

so how do you connect legs and arms to the proko bean/robo bean? he kind of just "adds" them and doesn't really explain, they end up looking weird and out of place, a hyper realistic buttocks and legs connected to a super simplified box.

[Anonymous No.5090062]

>>5087786
Thoughts on my inking?

[Anonymous No.5090064]

>>5090021
>As long as you are drawing and using your brain
That's the hard part.
Luck anon.

[Anonymous No.5090066]

>>5090062
face looks like a bad shoop, in other words the face doesn't fit on the head. its not too late to change it but otherwise the inking looks fine. good variance in line thickness

[Anonymous No.5090083]

>>5089980
That's because I suck at drawing, she is pretty otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5090087]

>>5090083
Calarts isn’t pretty

[Anonymous No.5090088]

>>5090083
pretty ugly

[Anonymous No.5090111]

>>5090053
help pls

[Anonymous No.5090127]

>>5090083
maybe the problem with begs isn't lack of practice or talent but just absolute lack of taste

[Anonymous No.5090180]

>>5090111
you're overthinking it. literally just draw them in and readjust if they look bad.

[Anonymous No.5090196]

every time I try to shade the face it just ends up looking grimy, like the person I'm drawing's a coal miner or some shit.
anyone else struggled with this??

[Anonymous No.5090200]

any observations?

[Anonymous No.5090207]

>>5090200
not /beg/

[Anonymous No.5090208]

>>5090200
i like it

the shading on the shorts and legs looks a bit flat compared to the rest of the piece.

[Anonymous No.5090210]

>>5090200
/INT/OIDS GET OUT

[Anonymous No.5090216]

>>5090210
What

[Anonymous No.5090218]

>>5090216
he's saying you are intermediate level, not a beginner

[Anonymous No.5090227]

>>5090200
jew nose, doesnt look appealing anon

[Anonymous No.5090231]

>>5090208
>the shading on the shorts and legs looks a bit flat compared to the rest of the piece.
Yep, I think the abs are too realistic compared to the rest of the body,
draw it full realistic or full cartoonish? thats the cuestion

[Anonymous No.5090233]

I tried to gesture and then construct this from a reference on line of action but fuck it just looks "off"?

[Anonymous No.5090234]

>>5090233
but then I tried to shade it and hmmm I just have no idea where to start doing it right instead.

[Anonymous No.5090240]

>>5090200
proportions and anatomy are completely fucked. honestly I would just call it finished and try to tone down your noodle body "style" for the next one. honestly there are so many anatomical and proportional flaws the best way to get you to see them is to tell you to draw her naked and see what I mean. also the nose does not need those left over sketch marks on the bridge, the hair makes no sense and is seemingly just wherever you felt like putting it. the head shape is totally wrong, needs work again on a structural level.

your polishing is nice but like most artists you skipped past the fundies too fast and it shows. your coloring, while not amazing, is much further along than your basic fundies.
>>5090210
>>5090207
it is /beg/, it's just hard for noobs to identify that with a decently rendered drawing, ever heard of "polishing a turd"? this guy's rendering is around /int/ level but his fundies are /beg/ for sure.

[Anonymous No.5090246]

>>5090227
better?

[Anonymous No.5090247]

>>5090240
>this guy's rendering is around /int/ level
So you he’s /int/ then? What are you even going on about?

[Anonymous No.5090254]

>>5090200
i for one like the proportions and pose. i think changing it would kill the spirit of the pose, even if there's some funky shit going on. it isn't that bad.

the real culprit is showing features that aren't appealing, like her gums, and that weird nose shading. whens the last time you saw gums on a girl in a stylized drawing lmao. it looks nice though, i added some shine to the hair to make it more engaging. i also upped the sat/hue to complement the spunky pose with the colors. nice job tho imo

[Anonymous No.5090255]

>>5090247
speak english retard

[Anonymous No.5090256]

>>5090240
Im not that guy, but you sound like an idiotic crab. It looks fine; if you want to help, point out how you would improve the anatomy, instead of just saying that it's shit.

[Anonymous No.5090257]

>>5090240
>>5090200
this is so autistic don’t worry about this guy youre fine. the only thing id say to work on would be pushing gesture a bit more

[Anonymous No.5090261]

Why are >>5089809 and >>5089639 considered /beg/ but >>5090200 isn’t? That right Miku is really nice to look at and the other anime girl looks like a sketch you’d find in the back of a manga and both have better faces and anatomy for the most part than the one people said isn’t /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5090263]

>>5090255
I don't speak american

[Anonymous No.5090266]

>>5090261
Because >>5090200 actually looks appealing/good.

[Anonymous No.5090273]

>>5090246
I don't like the under lip anon.

[Anonymous No.5090274]

>>5090261
Get real anon, the only thing that matters if you can render well, that's the bare minimum of getting good in art.

[Anonymous No.5090276]

>>5090266
The face sure isn’t

[Anonymous No.5090277]

>>5090274
Are you retarded anon?

[Anonymous No.5090284]

>>5090256
>>5090257
you're right, it's perfect just the gums and shading on her leg is wrong, otherwise its perfect lmfao fucking beg i swear

[Anonymous No.5090287]

>>5090277
How can I be retarded when there's artists out there with loomis mannequins for bodies that are just rendered well and getting all the coomerbucks and likes, while we're here autistically grinding anatomy and boxes without even knowing if we're cut out to be an artists or not.

[Anonymous No.5090290]

>>5090261
newsflash: 99% of beg is fucking retarded and have no clue what they're talking about. this is basically a feel good hugbox where nothing is ever wrong with a drawing except minor shit

[Anonymous No.5090293]

>>5090261
>/begs/ critiquing /begs/
there's your answer

[Anonymous No.5090295]

>>5090293
PYW fellow /beg/

[Anonymous No.5090296]

>>5090290
>nothing is ever wrong
You seem to be the retard here. Have you missed how ruthless (and crabby) ic tends to be?

[Anonymous No.5090301]

>>5090240
>proportions and anatomy are completely fucked.
i made some changes, i think its better now (?)

[Anonymous No.5090304]

>>5090301
This just got a lot worse. 90% of the anatomy in the OG sketch is fucked

[Anonymous No.5090305]

>>5090301
LMAO

[Anonymous No.5090311]

>>5090301
no no no man, look at my post >>5090254
get rid of the
>nose shading on the top of it
>gums, make the entire teeth white
>that underlip rendering shit
it's so unappealing that it creates a distraction of the entire picture. my eyes go right to that weird mouth, man. i like it but you need to dump that asap. add more shine to her hair, it looks really dull right now. up to the hue/sat to make the colors more interesting!

[Anonymous No.5090314]

>>5090301
What the hell

[Anonymous No.5090321]

>>5090196
Can you provide ref?

[Anonymous No.5090322]

should I delete shit drawings I've uploaded earlier on sites like pixiv after improooving?

[Anonymous No.5090324]

>>5090261
can be passable as coom, imagine if anon only made her only wear full body spandex

[Anonymous No.5090328]

>>5090324
They all can be possible as coom with your imagination

[Anonymous No.5090329]

>>5090322
this is my personal opinion but i like seeing old shitty drawings of artists who came along way. i'd say keep them as reminders of how much you improved and let others see.

[Anonymous No.5090336]

>>5089770
how did he do it?

[Anonymous No.5090349]

>>5090273
fixed, (i think)

[Anonymous No.5090355]

>>5089809
Edited it a bit from before, still a bit unclear on the lighting though

[Anonymous No.5090359]

>>5090355
Why is the nose where it is?

[Anonymous No.5090364]

>>5090349
better and more appealing. up the hue/sat the colors are too washed out

[Anonymous No.5090368]

>>5090261
non-meme answer: look at things like the top of of roll's pants and you'll notice that there actually is actually a top side to them. objects have thickness and occupy space.
compare to xmas miku where he forgets half the time and when he remembers it's wonky or ambiguous. and the lane seems to involve a great deal of guesswork overall.

[Anonymous No.5090370]

>>5090207
>>5090208
>>5090210
>>5090218
>>5090256
>>5090257
thanks anons, im insecure about my drawings, so sometimes i don't really understand if i do something fine or bad

[Anonymous No.5090374]

>>5090368
>lane
killing myself real quick

[Anonymous No.5090375]

>>5090364
I took the colors from the original artwork, I don't know if it's a good idea to saturate them more

[Anonymous No.5090376]

>>5089751
I made this years ago. lol

[Anonymous No.5090377]

>>5090375
It’s not. Most people on here don’t know what they’re talking about and yet they think their opinions are absolute

[Anonymous No.5090381]

>>5090375
i see now.. the colors are still decent but i think slightly upping the hue/sat makes a world of a difference. it makes it more inviting, more energetic, etc. if you want to make the colors pop more without changing the tone, do something with the background's color

[Anonymous No.5090384]

I REALLY like this pen, are drawings like this valid?
Well, mostly the girl, I know the cat is a mess

[Anonymous No.5090383]

>>5090375
I think the colors are fine. Different people, different monitors anon.

[Anonymous No.5090386]

>>5090383
ya its not a deal breaker for me. i just think slightly changing is a good idea

[Anonymous No.5090388]

>>5090383
yep, I'll leave them like this
>>5090386
can you show me?

[Anonymous No.5090390]

>>5090359
because I fucked up the perspective probably

[Anonymous No.5090391]

>>5090388
in this post i slightly upped the hue and saturation: >>5090254
it didnt change the colors drastically but gave them more of a punch. im not eexpecting you to completely re-do the colors since that's alot of work

[Anonymous No.5090394]

I REALLY like this pen, are drawings like this valid?
Well, mostly the girl, I know the cat is a mess

[Anonymous No.5090461]

Could you guys tell me where it looks wrong?
I feel like the connection with the shoulders where the deltoid, pec major and lats are seems wrong. Could somebody please help, maybe redline it?

[Anonymous No.5090549]

>>5089263
Thanks anon, gotta fix it up a lil bit according to your advice

[Anonymous No.5090561]

It's fun learning to draw when I'm doing figure studies or copying anime art, but how do I make myself push through the boring grind of drawing boxes and random still life objects?

[Anonymous No.5090632]

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.5090634]

>>5090632
i'm thinkin soul

[Anonymous No.5090660]

>>5090632
Cozy. I want to live there.

[Anonymous No.5090788]

Yeah, finally starting to look human when I draw with no reference

[Anonymous No.5090792]

[Anonymous No.5090800]

>>5090788
With no tracing, lmao no reference I wish. Also sorry, uploaded wrong file. I had it cropped and all that.

[Anonymous No.5090802]

SOUL

[Anonymous No.5090837]

>>5090802

[Anonymous No.5090853]

>mirror drawing
>it looks ABSOLUTELY fucked up
>every
>single
>time

[Anonymous No.5090857]

trying to draw girls that dont look like monkeys

[Anonymous No.5090894]

>>5087786
Who drew this? I actually love it

[Anonymous No.5090910]

>>5090894
This is bait

[Anonymous No.5090912]

>>5090894
I was doodling random stuff and I tried to a draw chibi Marisa from memory and it turned out so hilarously bad I made it the OP image

[Anonymous No.5090915]

hows my forms looking guys?

[Anonymous No.5090916]

>>5090910
It's not I think it's cute

>>5090912
You have soul anon. Keep improving I'd love to see your stuff soon or if you have twitter or something I'd love to follow

[Anonymous No.5090924]

>>5090915
well it's a start, keep on grinding.

[Anonymous No.5090929]

>>5090924
is there anything crazy wrong like some lines going wrong way? or just a matter of keep drawing to refine?

[Anonymous No.5090943]

>>5090929
not really. You are trying to get it look 3d with those lines. Just keep that in mind with drawing forms.

[Anonymous No.5090951]

>>5090943
ok thank you bro, im trying to think in 3d space and form, hes a few more i just did, its hard to know when to shift the line the other way so perspective changes from looking up to down if thta makes sense

[Anonymous No.5090963]

>>5090951
just start with a simple shape like a can or cylinder and rotate that around. After that you can move towards more complex shapes like a bean.

[Anonymous No.5090965]

>>5090915
>>5090951
How about shading them?

[Anonymous No.5090968]

>>5090963
yeha im getting a bit ahead of myself with these complexer forms

>>5090965
nah rendering comes later, gotta get some basic forms and believeable 3dness before i even think about shading

[Anonymous No.5090972]

>>5090968
> Shading come later
You dumb motherfucker. Did you get anything from watching Peter Han?

[Anonymous No.5090974]

>>5090972
how can i shade a form that i cant even draw anon...

[Anonymous No.5090982]

>>5087786
I drew a space woman hugging a canister. In general, I'm still having trouble with proportions. I'm practising anatomy but it's just not clicking altogether. What can I do to learn this? Also, what did I mess up with this image?
Thank you for the help /ic/!

[Anonymous No.5090984]

>>5090916
Thanks. I drew the spearmen I posted in here also. I have a twitter but I barely use it and mostly just dump all my stuff on pixiv. https://twitter.com/cranialcavity1

[Anonymous No.5090989]

>>5090974
They look fine. Just wing it. Making mistakes is a integral part of learning.

[Anonymous No.5091002]

>>5090982
You just need to practice figure drawing in general. Your proportions are all off. Get good at drawing figures that you see in front of you and that will have direct carryover to what you can invent from imagination and using references. Learning anatomy before you can draw the figure as a whole well enough is like putting the cart before the horse.

[Anonymous No.5091005]

>>5090968
bad take, read how to render

[Anonymous No.5091036]

>>5091002
Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.5091042]

>>5090394
VERY nice, anon!
SOUL

[Anonymous No.5091082]

How much anatomy am I supposed to learn? I don't think learning all 700 muscles is necessary, but how much is enough to be good?

[Anonymous No.5091085]

>>5089468
Yeah the hair kind of looks like a helmet.

I need to dedicate a few days to just grinding out head/hair studies of artists I like I guess.

[Anonymous No.5091088]

>>5091082
just the basic anatomy, the ones you can see if you flex when you do a pose.

[Anonymous No.5091109]

Hello! I want to have soul in my art, but I also want to make it look better, it's a bit off... please help /ic/!

[Anonymous No.5091111]

I am NOT ashamed.

[Anonymous No.5091118]

heres a drawin i did

[Anonymous No.5091119]

>>5091111
to better understand and determining your ability, you will need to look at this.

[Anonymous No.5091120]

>>5091111
Not caring what the peanut gallery thinks is an important step. Good job anon.

[Anonymous No.5091125]

>>5091088
Is learning the artery and vein system important or can I skip that?

[Anonymous No.5091129]

>>5091125
you training to be a doctor? why the fuck would you need to know that

[Anonymous No.5091130]

>>5091125
no, unless you are drawing for a medical book.

[Anonymous No.5091132]

I return to the study grind

[Anonymous No.5091133]

>>5087786
Drawing from imaginary.

[Anonymous No.5091143]

I'm a digital designer and I want to try and paint something using traditional painting that looks close to this mockup I made

Two questions:

- What sort of materials do I need to achieve this sort of texture and layered paint effect with the hard brush strokes? I'm guessing I should get some sort of thick oil paint and canvas? What about brushes?

- How hard would this sort of effect/style be to reproduce for a complete beginner?

[Anonymous No.5091199]

>>5088878
You need to study proportions badly. If you measure by heads, 1 head is head, 2 head to nipples, 3 heads to navel, 4 heads to crotch. Your 3 head barely makes it pass the ribs and your navel is pass 4 heads. The entire body is stretched out length wise.

[Anonymous No.5091234]

>>5090196
You need to use different pencils. Youre shading the light values with 2 dark a pencil. I have the same problem when I try to only draw with an HB. Try using 2H or 4H or something and then rememeber: darkest lights are still lighter than lightest darks. Also work on your shadow shapes and planes. Seems like you're just shading where you think it should be dark instead of shading based on planes.

[Anonymous No.5091240]

>>5090234
Thats because you need to shade using planes and youre just putting shadows down at random

[Anonymous No.5091245]

>>5089842
This looks great anon, hope you keep improving. What are your inspirations?

[Anonymous No.5091277]

>>5091199
Is this how shit's done? I don't want to measure shit by heads, please fuck.

[Anonymous No.5091315]

>>5091199
Thanks for reminding me.Funny how despite knowing trivial stuff like general proportions I just commpletely forgot to apply it while studying something else.

[Anonymous No.5091384]

>>5091277
You just gotta keep it in mind when drawing. Measuring heads is only a few minutes of work. You can use the guide I copied >>5091132, it helps.

[Anonymous No.5091451]

[Anonymous No.5091457]

>>5090394
>valid
what this mean? is this a new word that kids those days are using?

I like the cat more tho, much more interesting compositions than the girl

[Anonymous No.5091467]

>>5091133

[Anonymous No.5091477]

>>5091240
I tried to plan it out but I guess it did not work. I don't think I have the eye for light yet.. do you have any advice on how i set this up wrong?

[Anonymous No.5091482]

>>5091133
cool car

[Anonymous No.5091546]

>>5090461
I am just a beg but I feel like her arms don't have the right ellipses. if that makes sense.

cute gril tho

[Anonymous No.5091572]

Practice copying stuff
Never doing crosshatching again

[Anonymous No.5091574]

>>5091482
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.5091590]

no reply to this >>5082079 last thread

I forgot the reference

[Anonymous No.5091595]

Is this kind of shit normal for absolute starting level? I cannot judge scale properly, nor can I seem to hold my hand steady enough to draw lines accurately.

[Anonymous No.5091596]

>>5088086
Make a gif of this by flipping the picture.

[Anonymous No.5091598]

>>5091595
Yeah. Just keep studying fundamentals and every now and then try the exercise again and see how you improve

[Anonymous No.5091611]

my new favorite face

[Anonymous No.5091670]

how do draw stuff
i wanna draw but all this shit about perspective, human anatomy, coloring and shit
how do i do that
how do u even draw, do you just do full strokes when on paper or how

[Anonymous No.5091683]

This time I tried an Arabic styled warrior instead of a traditional european one like with my spearmen
Im kind of happy with this. I used the Morgan Bible as a ref for the chainmail which was fun

[Anonymous No.5091691]

>>5091590
did you wanted a critique? If so you need to work on some perspective, the woman face looks kind of flat.

[Anonymous No.5091692]

>>5091670
You can look at the sticky if you want a place to start. Then from there you can go to one of the beginner books in the artbook mega or you can try a video course in the mega thread.

[Anonymous No.5091699]

>>5091683
Not bad, just be careful of the perspective his face and torso are facing the same direction but the his hip and legs seems to be pointing towards us. That is not a mistake in it self but sometimes people draw that way not knowing and it mess up their proportion.

[Anonymous No.5091707]

>>5091699
Thanks! I intentionally rotated the hips a bit, I've been trying to experiment with subtle gesture and I found that slighty rotating the hips and torso against eachother helps, but I still need more practice.
I recently gained the confidence/knowledge to do from imagination poses so I've been having a lot of fun playing around with that.

[Anonymous No.5091732]

I'm failing again, why do I only know how to make birds look decent, not like I want my stories to be about fucking birds
Can you imagine everyone on GITS or Alita being a bird? I only know how to draw FUCKING birds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETEg-SB01QY
.50 to the brain will fix all my problems, I know it can.

[Anonymous No.5091735]

>>5091732
Show me your birds.

[Anonymous No.5091743]

>>5091735
It doesn't even look that good, tried to draw a cup? Shit. My hands? Shit Bird? Shit
I was right, people are right, people like me can't make it.
I deserve a bullet to the brain and suicide for being unable to ever draw like this.
please give me something to draw, maybe when pressed "to impress" (as if I can lol) i can awaken something
I try so hard, break everything down, think about it, place it try to feel the form but nothing

[Anonymous No.5091744]

If I'm unable to be good at something then the logical choice is that I've failed to justify my existence, I'm to kill myself with no hope of revival.
I have failed you once again muse.

[Anonymous No.5091767]

My heroes would call me untalented, spit in my face, only a bullet can fix my brains, there's something so peaceful about a piece of metal that can solve all your problems, entry wound and shock, bleeding, waves sending everything against what's left of the skull, vibrations to the place that's actually you, exit wound, splatter, your very essence spread all over the wall and floor.

[Anonymous No.5091771]

>>5091767
Your core, we are not that different to a machine, what would you feel? I'm so intrigued, nothing? Your mind glitching out as your hardware is now all over the wall, cut to black, eternal peaceful black?

[Anonymous No.5091773]

>>5091771
Ironic, I wish I could show you what I mean, I'm not well versed with words or skilled enough in writing to share the feeling of suicide, a very unique interpretation of what it means to have your mind take up meters of space instead of the usual inside a skull, I wish I could paint it but I can't, I can't.

[Anonymous No.5091777]

>>5091732
>>5091743
>>5091744
>>5091767
Try 1 picture/ 1 reply anon.
I too can't draw human face for shit, and that's why I am taking Mr. Glenn course.
I know that you will not KYS, and just continue to whine and give up like a bitch.
I will return to this place 4 months later to shit on you with my head and figure drawings.

[Anonymous No.5091778]

>>5091777
No, you won't. Either my tulpa takes over and does other shit or I kill myself, or I improve but I don't know.

[Anonymous No.5091784]

Man I really like this thread, the level is too high even if we're /beg/s. Now I can see us as an actual, honorable tier like Bronze medal instead of being the go-to insult.

[Anonymous No.5091791]

>>5090792
Please give me a (You), let me know how I did on the shapes and values.
I didn't even try to texture the fur because I don't know how, or what brushes to use. Could I get some advice or links on that end?

[Anonymous No.5091798]

Am I talentless?
I think I am, what if I'll never draw like my heroes?
>>5091611
Pure talent, must feel great not working for things, huh?

[Anonymous No.5091799]

>>5091777
It's the bird dick fag lmao, go fuck yourself dude, get a life HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Anonymous No.5091805]

>>5091778
Last reply for real.
1 picture that you drew/ 1 reply will make you sound less retarded.
Also, sharpen your knife anon, because when the time comes....
>>5091791
I like it. Was painting a pair of ballz on your camel pic, but I didn't post it because I thought It was immature.

[Anonymous No.5091806]

>>5090066
Should I take it to the redline thread? If that's still around.... Not sure how to fix the face.

[Anonymous No.5091812]

>>5091805
What's your problem with me? Can you imagine being this obsessed with someone? Yeah you draw better so what, that starved of ego worship?

[Anonymous No.5091836]

[Anonymous No.5091863]

>>5091732
bird is slang for woman in my country so I was really confused for a second there

[Anonymous No.5091864]

>>5091863
innit

[Anonymous No.5091882]

>>5091863
fUCK off

[Anonymous No.5091884]

>>5087786
Started loomis today, I'm an absolute beginner who just got a drawing tablet for Christmas. What did I do wrong?

[Anonymous No.5091891]

>>5090792
>>5091791
So idk about your intent here but if you are doing a value study then re-examine the shape of shadows on the body, some areas are hastier and less detailed compared to others so try to mind that. The dark fur especially looks sloppy. There appears to be no knee on right foreleg.
The shape has some issues too, put your ref and work side by side and take your pen to compare the angles of the silhouettes and major shapes. Back of the neck in ref is at 45 degree angle while yours is almost straight up for example. Your head is larger compared to torso than in ref so pay attention to proportions.

I could probably continue to nitpick but honestly, who cares if the ears protrude too much or whatever? Nobody knows enough about camels to spot such things without reference. I like your work as a whole and it's solid practice. Also, it's nice to see something other than moeblobs posted here so points for that. I'd suggest you start using your pen to measure your reference to get more accurate angles and proportions. If you want to do the fur then I guess you could start by detailing all the smaller shadows you see on it. It's so thick that think of it less as strands of hair and more as an uneven surface with all kinds of bumps and dips and how they affect light. See how it looks smoother in shadow versus in the light?

[Anonymous No.5091899]

someone a day in is mogging me
the moment life ends...
with a bullet to the brain
I was born to experience the sexual pleasure of suicide
>>5091884
Talented

[Anonymous No.5091902]

I was born to experience the guilty pleasure of suicide, I want to make it special, I want to make it something
As the bullet pierces my skull sending waves all along my brain, I keep thinking about it

[Anonymous No.5091911]

I'm not going to post my trash scribbles, but holy fuck. I started from nothing, looked at a youtube guide on how to map a face. Couldn't do it properly. Spent a couple days (in reality, a couple hours in total only) drawing random shit. Went back to the 1st thing which was mapping faces -- my lines are so much better.

I'm slowly catching the bug guys.

[Anonymous No.5091912]

>>5091899
Don't feel too bad. Digital is easier because I can just ctrl+z when I fuck up, plus its just wireframes, not real art.

[Anonymous No.5091917]

>>5091912
Youre lying to me but one month from now youll be better
I wish you luck despite the fact that I loathe you

[Anonymous No.5091930]

>>5091911
post your faces

[Anonymous No.5091931]

>>5091917
Thanks. I think the key is using the scale ruler (line with notches at even intervals) and just copying loomis. Then you can kind of imagine the body moving in different ways. Making it look 3d is hard though.

[Anonymous No.5091932]

>>5091884
I think you are on the right track. Unskilled, sure, but that's to be expected.
You are just beginning so focus on exploring your new tool first while also having fun doodling stuff. It takes some weeks to get used to a tablet. Look up drawabox or dynamic sketching for exercises on creating smoother, straighter lines. You have started loomis already so that's better than half the begs here. Keep drawing stuff, applying what you learn to it and you'll get the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.5091936]

>>5091930
No, cracker. You gots to learn how to read, bruh.

[Anonymous No.5091940]

>>5091936
it' didn't happen and is it's fake and gay

[Anonymous No.5091941]

>>5091931
Fuck off and die
>>5091932
You too, eat shit and die

[Anonymous No.5091953]

>>5091941
Uh, what did I do to offend you?
Anyways, have a little moo to brighten your day.

[Anonymous No.5091958]

>>5091932
Thanks. I'll look into that stuff. My end goal for drawing is make beautiful cartoons, but I realize that I need to learn the fundamentals first.

[Anonymous No.5091961]

>>5091953
FUCK YOU>>5091932

[Anonymous No.5091974]

>>5091953
You'll get to know the Akechi/4 months wasted schizo anon.

[Anonymous No.5091984]

>>5091974
Answer me, dO i have any HOPE?

[Anonymous No.5092045]

>>5091984
Lol you're really proud of this piece of shit to keep posting it 6 months later, have you really done nothing since? Take your meds and get the fuck offline and stop cancering up the art board

[Anonymous No.5092053]

>>5092045
I'm not proud of it, I'm ashamed, to expose one's shame and lack of honor is essential.
I've been posting snippets of my drawing routine, here's an unfinished hand, I failed at this, still not grasping the form.
Until I improve I won't leave this place.

[Anonymous No.5092057]

>>5092053
Good luck schizo

[Anonymous No.5092060]

>>5092057
Am I hopeless to you? Am I lacking in potential?
To fail once is to lose all dignity and honor, either success or death, those are the only two choices left to this unfortunate body I inhabit.

[Anonymous No.5092069]

>>5092060
you are hopeless yes

[Anonymous No.5092073]

>>5092069
What makes me hopeless?

[Anonymous No.5092074]

>>5092073
Your mental illness and constant desire for attention

[Anonymous No.5092078]

>>5092074
Please speak only about art, my BPD is the result of unpleasant and prolonged experiences, I'm worried because people like you claim I'm hopeless and I don't see any spark in my studies, I'm too afraid of failure to draw.

[Anonymous No.5092081]

>>5092078
no. you're hopeless and I'll speak about it. deal with it.

[Anonymous No.5092087]

>>5092081
The artist or the body is irrelevant, my BPD is irrelevant, it doesn't make me hopeless.

[Anonymous No.5092088]

>>5092087
it sure as fuck makes you unbearable though

[Anonymous No.5092111]

>friend keeps pressuring me to do dnd character portraits for our campaign
>keep telling him to wait because I dont feel good enough yet
>says if I dont make up my mind soon he might commission an artist
>REALLY want to do it but I wanna get better
help

[Anonymous No.5092126]

>>5092111
even if you suck just do it bro it'll be good practice and im sure your friends wont care

[Anonymous No.5092140]

>>5092087
dude just shut the FUCK up and post art to get critiqued on. Don't start being an autistic kid asking someone a question, then respond to them asking why they think that, then start arguing against their opinion. What the fuck are you even trying to accomplish with that?

I'm someone that tried helping in an earlier thread but I'm tired of it at this point too. Yes you're hopeless, whatever, draw and ask for advice and try taking advice to heart and post again, or shut the fuck up nobody cares and we're not psychiatrists or your parents or your teacher or doctor that can help with mental issues.

[Anonymous No.5092147]

>>5092078
>please speak only about art
>doesn't draw or post art

[Anonymous No.5092150]

Hi. I have worked in a psych ward. My input is very important.
STOP RESPONDING TO HIM
He will either give up or his BPD will "deactivate" and he'll stop. Responding only fuels him

[Anonymous No.5092157]

>>5092150
>>5092140
>>5092147
How to improve?

[Anonymous No.5092207]

idk , tips from this?

[Anonymous No.5092227]

[Anonymous No.5092337]

Imagine posting on an art forum and all you have to offer are reaction images and wall of paragraphs. Shame.

[Anonymous No.5092364]

>>5092227
I'ma bout to nut!

[Anonymous No.5092524]

>Tfw anon is a hack writer

[Anonymous No.5092582]

Jesus christ the akechifag is still around?

[Anonymous No.5092628]

is it over if i didn't start drawing at like 9 years old
>t. 23 years old
can you make it at 20+?

[Anonymous No.5092636]

>>5092628
cutesexyrobutts didn't start drawing until they were 27

[Anonymous No.5092649]

I did it ppl, I really did it.
Started Riven's Phoenix "the structure of man".
2 lessons per day, watch and copy in the morning, repeat by memory in the evening.
It will take like 6 months to complete.
There is no turning back now

[Anonymous No.5092656]

>>5092649
ci riuscirai, italiano anon

[Anonymous No.5092658]

>>5092636
wtf? he's a literal boomer?

[Anonymous No.5092694]

>>5091234
That was done in charcoal, not graphite. What do you mean shading in planes?

Spent an hour working on this boorgeroo sketch, this one is in graphite

[Anonymous No.5092753]

what's a good site that has refs for different body types? i keep defaulting to buff dudes when i draw from imagination

[Anonymous No.5092761]

>>5092753
youtube. google sports, different sports have different bodytypes

[Anonymous No.5092773]

>>5092761
>google sports
holy shit, why didn't i think of that? thx.

[Anonymous No.5092852]

Did this yesterday, wdyt?

[Anonymous No.5092899]

>>5092852
the thumbnail looked better than when i clicked on it

the proportions of the face look good, but some of the features look a bit weird (pointy chin, thicc nose), also maybe you could go with darker values for the nostrils, corners of the mouth, etc

[Anonymous No.5092924]

I suspect my main problem with how 'off' this image looks is the pillow shading, right? how would this be best fixed?

[Anonymous No.5092930]

>>5092929

>>5092929

New thread

[Anonymous No.5092960]

>>5092649
Good luck anon. Put in the effort then reap your rewards.
>>5092852
I like it. Kinda blurry.