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>> No.5079923

Using anime as references

>> No.5079925

Thinking they know better

>> No.5079926

>>5079921
thinking that loomis is a meme

>> No.5079927

drawing from imagination

>> No.5079929

>>5079921
not drawing

>> No.5079930

>>5079921
Thinking "just draw" is a meme

>> No.5079932

Thinking "just draw" isn't a meme

>> No.5079953

>>5079921
Visiting /ic/

>> No.5079965
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5079965

drawing too much (until you burn out/suffer from health/sleep issues)
not drawing enough
thinking there is a magical book or course will teach you how to draw for sure
never reading/watching books/courses/guides
always studying, never doing original drawings
doing only original drawings, never studying
never trying to copy images, trying to match as many details as possible
only copying and never analyzing forms and shapes
not listening to critique
taking every critique too seriously without any doubt
drawing only traditionally
drawing only digitally
thinking your favorite style or subject is superior to others
thinking fancy brushes will make your drawings better
thinking brushes don't matter
thinking tracing will teach you how to draw
thinking tracing is inherently bad
visiting /ic/
not visiting /ic/

>> No.5079970

>>5079965
>drawing only digitally
why is that bad

>> No.5079983

>>5079970
Undo/redo, layers, and select/transform can become too big of a crutch. Also drawing traditionally is fun every once in a while

>> No.5079989

>>5079983
hm not a good reason

>> No.5079991

>>5079983
?????
I draw both trad and digi and I mostly main inks/ballpoints when doing trad so the "undo" "redo" crutch seems far-fetched and bullshit to me.

>> No.5079995

>>5079989
>>5079991
He said "can become"
Especially when you're just starting out, you need to make mistakes to learn and you need to learn to live with your mistakes.
Jogging those Ctrl+Z keys might get in the way with that.

>> No.5079996

>>5079921
asking on /ic/ for most common mistakes

>> No.5079997

>>5079995
>you need to make mistakes to learn and you need to learn to live with your mistakes
why

>> No.5080007

>>5079921
muh style

>> No.5080015

>>5079921
"studying" art instead of just doing what you like

>> No.5080021

>>5079997
What do you mean why?
If you don't make mistakes, you're either perfect or not drawing. And if you're afraid of making mistakes learning from them is much harder.

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5080038

>>5079921
Not having fun, but on a technical level, hairy lines / chicken scratch (but see pic related)

>> No.5080042

short repetitive strokes
stop doing that

>> No.5080059
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5080059

>>5080021
But undoing your mistakes is acknowledging them and actually putting extra time in observation / coloring. Consider how much time do you put in making corrections when you are not allowed to fix them versus when you are

Before I used the eraser, one wrong line stayed in. Now that I use the eraser, I spend much more time comparing and contrasting. I don't know how moving on and living with the failure would be more useful.

>> No.5080072

"Don't draw what you see, draw what you have seen."

>> No.5080086

>>5079923
FPBP.

>> No.5080087

>>5079921
thinking they're better than most because they found the "secret" way to getting good fast

>> No.5080113

>>5080059
>Consider how much time do you put in making corrections
exactly. time better spent moving on to the next thing. in the end you end up drawing more things and progress faster. why do you think timed figure drawing is such a useful exercise?

>> No.5080134

>>5079921
taking anonymous critique on /ic/ seriously

>> No.5080209

>>5080021
>make mistake
>go to layer where you fucked up
>erase
>fix up mistake

Serious question, isn't that a good thing? You don't have to worry about erasing things and having the paper look bad. You can also preserve important layers like the foundation of what you drew.

To me, digital just seem incredibly optimized and streamlined and I like that.

>> No.5080223

digital is trash bro

>> No.5080279

>>5080209
As >>5080113 said sometimes it's more useful to just move on to the next thing instead.
Of course if you're done practicing and want to get a good looking picture done, digital is probably easier.
Also it's just my opinion as someone who's never really drawn digitally so far

>> No.5080313

>>5080209
I mean, if you want to illustrate a good art piece; you can use whichever tool you want. If you just want to practice/study; limiting it to the eraser, re-doing the sketch and iterating it differently is really helpful. Keep the fucked-up sketch/iteration, that way you will have both your mistakes and your improvement to compare and learn from.

>> No.5080340

>>5079983
no rules, only tools

>> No.5080346

not studying
only studying
having drawn for a while so you get arrogant and don't listen to sound advice
not getting into the habit of drawing every day
browsing /ic/

>> No.5080351

>>5079983
>hbuyrr erasers are a crutch
not a good reason.
digital is a poor platform to learn on because of the amount of shit to learn and keep track of, and the physical disconnect between your motions and the output.
putting a mark on a paper with a pencil requires a pencil and a paper. doing digital art requires knowledge of your tablet, your OS, your drivers, your software and a whole host of other shit.
as a beginner it's difficult to know where the problem exists if you e.g. can't draw a straight line. is it your software settings, your tablet being wonky or your arm not doing the correct thing?
learning traditional first completely sidesteps all these issues and gives you a great foundation for you to learn the quirks and pitfalls of digital drawing without also having to battle with the act of learning how to draw on top of that.
that's not to say you shouldn't ever draw digitally unless you spend 5 years doing charcoal etchings or whatever, but that you probably shouldn't be doing your fundamental studies digitally.

>> No.5080356

>>5079921
Posting on 4chan

>> No.5080383

>>5080059
did the flow of time have a glitch or sumthin? im pretty sure that image and thread is pretty old. why does it say nov 2020.

>> No.5080393

I'm not good at drawing [insert a subject matter] so I don't draw that.

>> No.5080401

>>5080113
It can be useful for gesture, not for learning proportions, contour, shading and so on.

>> No.5080411

>>5079921
thinking that drawing will cure your depression.

>> No.5080412

>>5079983
>drawing traditionally is fun every once in a while
only smart part of your post, dumbass.

>> No.5080423

>>5080209
For a beginer, you will have to redo every fucking thing and it will take forever, when training a little with ink will quickly give you skill, because you need to make it right from the first try, and you need to think before you act. basically you will not picking the basic skill and waste your time. Once you know how to organize a drawing and have a confident stroke, sure go digital.

>> No.5081810

>>5079921
Not painting
Not doing Bargue/Keys/Betty Edwards