/rant/ /vent/

[Anonymous No.5079617]

Here's the place to do it, HERE!
Not /beg/
Not any other thread
HERE.

[Anonymous No.5079630]

Video games are the reason I'm NGMI. I play early into the morning, wake up in the afternoon and from there play more. I haven't picked up a pencil in days. My attention span is shorter than the average height of a male born in an Asian country. Moderation really isn't an option for me. I need to get back on track. I've wasted all of quarantine on them, the path's not looking good at all. I had 6 months, literally 6 months to draw all day. Wasted on a game that will never give anything to me. Should I yolo it and delete them all?

[Anonymous No.5079641]

why would I need to vent?

[Anonymous No.5079649]

>>5079630
play games where you draw

[Anonymous No.5079737]

I keep having to stop my figure drawing practice to coom to Marcia I think I'm NGMI

[Anonymous No.5079792]

my first time opening /ic/ since 2018
not much has changed tbqh

[Anonymous No.5081141]

>buy commission from someone who posts their commissions regularly, customers all seem happy
>their tablet breaks and they had some irl shit going on i guess
>they didn't DM me this but I saw them post it, no biggie, I don't have a deadline
>no communication for months
>they post WIPs of their commission sketches publicly but don't DM me, I recognize mine
>give it a like a day after they post it
>they get back to me, communicate edits, seems ok so far
>still no updates
>find out they switched accounts without ever saying anything
>i only found out bc a mutual liked a post on their new account, which popped up on my feed
>messaged them a week ago
>they liked something today and yesterday, still no response

How fucking hard is it to just keep a client posted. It's just a headshot commission

Also I realized paypal has a 180 day window for refunds and it's been 217 days

[Anonymous No.5081146]

>>5079630
tell me about your life anon i want to help

[Anonymous No.5081157]

i used to think the best artists were people who struggled a lot in life
how wrong i was

[Anonymous No.5081406]

>>5079617
>Make short cartoons on the daily for months now
>Mostly slapstick comedies with cartoon violence
>People like them
>Today, I just noticed a pattern with my animations
>Some of my cartoons depict characters losing an arm or two
>Most of them are either robots or zombies
>I have an amputee fetish
>Hope to do some amputee art in the future
I'm worried are going to find that art and my animations won't make people laugh anymore and they're going to think I only did that running gag because I'm horny and not because I thought it was funny. Just like with all those old cartoon gags that awoke all kinds of degenerate fetishes in other people.

[Anonymous No.5081407]

>>5079630
Im a sucker for manga. I just read it all day,when i should be drawing

[Anonymous No.5081486]

I don't think I like artists very much.

[Anonymous No.5081488]

>>5081157
>i used to think the best artists were people who struggled a lot in life
what do you mean by best

[Anonymous No.5081502]

>>5079641
if you don't vent you might explode!

[Anonymous No.5081536]

>>5081406
Relax, Tim Burton did this his entire career but with heads instead of limbs

[Anonymous No.5081547]

>>5081141
Outed him in public and you might get the joy of watching him flaying around like a headless chicken trying to save his online rep.

[Anonymous No.5081594]

>>5081547
I don't think they would care and I don't really care enough to make a big thing out of it. However I did see they had two bewares for their old account.

I messaged their old account today and got a pretty quick response. In my message I subtly pointed out how they swapped accounts without telling me, but they didn't acknowledge that part. All they said was they'll ~try~ to finish it soon. I just told them if they haven't had time to move forward at all, I'd like to cancel the commission and just pay for the sketch they showed me. We'll see what happens.

[Anonymous No.5081613]

>>5079617
>Time to draw the feet

[Anonymous No.5081631]

>>5079617
I'm colorblind. When you get these test where there are circles filled with dots of different colours and there are dots of the same colour that create numbers.. I cannot see the fucking numbers. I want to pursue art as living and i find drawing enjoyable but there is this huge roadblock of being colorblind. Like i finally found something i like but all efforts will be in vain because I'm too old (25) and colorblind. I want to kill myself and I'm crying rn. Sorry /ic/.

[Anonymous No.5081636]

05d15dddd

[Anonymous No.5081649]

>>5081631
monochromatic art

[Anonymous No.5081672]

>>5079630
desu yes anon. video games and social media are timesinks which will return nothing to you but quick satisfaction. after 6 months of playing the game what do you have to show for it? you might have achievements, good gear or something but you have nothing to show for it other than that. put your time into productive hobbies, its the only way you can escape the void

[Anonymous No.5081718]

i havent improved in years, i cant create the things i picked up drawing for, nothing i learn seems to stick and i dont know how to apply it, i have people who want to commission me but everything i create i hate and feel like they dont deserve the low quality im providing, im quick to procrastinate, i quit my job to draw but with bills to pay and being forced to draw things i hate i feel like im going to burn my joy of drawing out, but working a normal job makes me feel even worse. im trapped in a situation where i need to pay bills and be competent but im constantly unhappy, every day killing myself feels more and more like the only way out because i cant get where i want to be after changing everything i can. im too entrenched in drawing and too poor to bail and do something that wont just speed up the process

[Anonymous No.5081724]

>>5081718
i dont even have anyone to talk to, everyone available will tell me the same shit or offer recommendations that i wont be able to utilize. if i scream on my social media ill receive empty platitudes or attempts to lighten the mood, i can only scream into the void and wait for nothing back

[Anonymous No.5081733]

>>5081724
im considering doing something awful on my way out, becoming some poor swat teams final boss or some shit, at least then through my misery I can provide someone elses life meaning. im not able to do anything like that as i am; my works are without soul, im incapable of bringing happiness to someones life because im incapable of positive emotions at this point in my life, im so tired of it all, i just want to become a cat and piss and shit and eat food without a care or a shadow on the wall with no concerns

[Anonymous No.5081750]

>>5081488
anyone with any success
in any other field it seems you can live a shit life and find success
but drawers of any kind? i really want you to find someone SUCCESSFUL who came from nothing with no support

[Anonymous No.5081754]

>>5081733
i dont want professional help, i cant in the first place anyways but i dont trust it. even with this black hole in my conscious i still feel like its a part of me, i dont want to become a different person from mental conditioning from something like therapy or drugs, i just need to keep struggling and struggling, or permanently escape

[Anonymous No.5081761]

these threads would be better if everyone had to post their work so you could see all the im great but noone understands me abloobloo posters next to their poorly copied anime study general pics. you know im right

[Anonymous No.5081956]

>>5081631
I know a guy who's colourblind and does very good coloured art. He analyses artists he likes and asks others and winds up with, again, really good shit. It isn't over until you think it's over, anon.

>>5079630
Delete the games if you can't ignore them. Vidya can be fun, but is one of the least productive hobbies.

[Anonymous No.5081967]

>>5079617
today i thank my beloved sun for giving me the energy to draw

[Anonymous No.5081972]

>>5081631
Coloring is gay anyways.

[Anonymous No.5081990]

>>5079617
i want to have children

[Anonymous No.5082048]

There's no way to protect you privacy while accepting payments for comms and it prevents me from earning any money from my art. Fuck this shitty earth. Fuck Paypal.

[Anonymous No.5082064]

>>5081990
You will never be a Woman.

[Anonymous No.5082100]

>>5082064
you will die alone

[Anonymous No.5082107]

Why haven't you made Wojack art yet, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.5082117]

>>5082107
She’s 17. Not worth your braincells.

[Anonymous No.5082122]

>>5082117
This is clearly the new flavor of the month. Rev up those pandering art posts and don't forget to tell them to hit day subscribe button :^)

[Anonymous No.5082136]

>>5082048
Don't most people create two PayPal accounts? One for personal use and one as a business, because if you accept payments through the business account your name won't show up on the invoice. Then you transfer the money to the personal account. So I've heard, I've been meaning to set one up myself.

[Anonymous No.5082140]

>>5082122
I don’t know, I stay far away from black Twitter.

[Anonymous No.5082184]

>>5081631
just get better jeans lmao

[Anonymous No.5082286]

>>5079617
i'm glad my commission work worked out smoothly despite some sad anon trying to crab me down.

[Anonymous No.5082296]

Fuck that dumbass who wanted more thinner. I am almost done with my late af work since September, made 90% of my progress done ONLY for that to happen and did everything I could for the past 2-3 hours of drawing. I'm mentally stressed, depressed this holidays and want to cry in my sleep for the next few days.

[Anonymous No.5082352]

>>5079617
Video I worked hard for that got love everywhere else gets just past blam score on newgrounds. Not the first time it happened. There is a point I have got to recognize the place just isn't for me.
I am considering deleting my account too and just doing a clean wipe, pixiv has everything uncompressed anyways, it is not like anything will be lost.

[Anonymous No.5082391]

>>5081761
everybody has value. even if they suck at art

[Anonymous No.5082473]

>>5082391
porn faggots aren't worth the air they breathe

[Anonymous No.5082506]

>want to draw but constant anxiety keeps me from being able to focus or think
What the fuck do?

[Anonymous No.5082577]

mistletoe?! I kk kissi kiss??? I don’t know if I’m readyyyyy

[Anonymous No.5082582]

I want some commissions, even lowballing myself, just to buy cigarettes and booze as a neet. I cannot get motivated without money involved. I know I am somewhat marketable but just barely and I have no clue how to get myself known.

[Anonymous No.5082585]

25 yrs old and still mediocre

[Anonymous No.5082595]

God I'm so fucking annoyed at the insanity on twitter. Everyone there trying to cancel one another for drawing something so tame and I'm just so fucking tired looking at meltdowns everyday from artists or AT artists. What the fuck do I do if I want some side money and Twitter is one of the most popular places to get commissions, yet I don't want to be lynched by the mobs if I ever drew something they thought was bad?

[Anonymous No.5082614]

>>5082595
maybe shoot yourself you faggot pornwhore?

[Anonymous No.5082633]

>>5082614
How about you fuck off instead of assuming that I draw porn in the first place, you fucking faggot? Can't even fucking vent without some retard shitpost here like a drone.

[Anonymous No.5082637]

>>5082595
Unironically become a coom artist. Those people are immune to being canceled, look at hacks like shadman. Cumbrains wouldn't care if their favorite porn producer killed someone as long they get to beat their meat.

[Anonymous No.5082649]

I fucking hate western coomtwitter.
I wish these faggots wouldn't bend the knee of these trannies wanting them dead over drawing loli/underage characters. Yet they continue to be converted to their side or appease them. I fucking hate these hypocrites and I want them to get their comeuppance for their blatant hypocrisy and for contributing to cancel culture.

[Anonymous No.5082652]

>>5082649
Fuck Noill for selling out and fuck his friends for being against loli yet support his loli/straight shota shit.

[Anonymous No.5082673]

>>5082633
dilate

[Anonymous No.5082676]

>>5082585
Fuck you talented fag

[Anonymous No.5082684]

>>5081750
>in any other field it seems you can live a shit life and find success
That's a myth anon. Most people who are successful usually come from successful families or had parents with a good head on their shoulders. The people who grew up in shit usually stay in shit, either from them being lazy or other people around them pulling them down. Poor people usually don't have the tools or mentality to become successful. This goes double for artists.

[Anonymous No.5082685]

>>5082649
kys pedo

[Anonymous No.5082692]

>>5082637
This doesn't work when coom artists already bend to some retarded tranny or will do it for them. See >>5082649

[Anonymous No.5082696]

>>5082652
>Fuck Noill for selling out
The fuck did he do? He hasn't been drawing anything for like 2 years.

[Anonymous No.5082751]

>>5079617
>got locked out of twitter
>again
>same number I used before is now unsupported number

[Anonymous No.5082758]

>autistic hermit
>lurking on an art community for a long time
>feeling confident one day
>talk a little
>eventually say something highly questionable
>people are offended
>try to defend myself
>>try
>end up saying something worse still
>at this point it has become clear to me that I am the dumbest person alive
>leave forever

I saw people mock me the day after that and I cried and listened to Jackson C. Frank for most of the day, but it's better now
Worst thing is that I still feel so bad about it that I haven't been productive since then

[Anonymous No.5082759]

>>5082696
Quit doing /ss/ to join Lab Zero.

[Anonymous No.5082767]

>>5082759
How is that selling out? He got a stable job, so he probably doesn't want depictions of pedophilia easily traceable back to him. Also shouldn't you be laughing since lab zero imploded due to the mike z controversy.

[Anonymous No.5082889]

>>5082684
well geez thats comforting

[Anonymous No.5082896]

I spent the day browsing boards instead of practicing and now I feel like shit, I think my art sucks, and I want to die.

[Anonymous No.5083015]

I had to stop drawing back in august because I gave myself tendonitis or something. I rested and tried to rehabilitate for a couple months and started drawing everyday again in november. Now the pain is starting to come back despite all the precautions I've taken. I stopped gripping my pencil so tightly, stopped pressing so hard on the paper, stopped using my wrist, started taking frequent breaks for stretching, and yet I've still managed to injure myself. I'm so tired of this shit. I don't know whether I'm retarded, cursed with extremely weak tendons, or a pussy looking for an excuse to give up. I've overcome so many fucking obstacles but this is the only problem that I can't seem to solve. I really don't want to have to switch to using my left hand but that seems like the only solution at this point.

[Anonymous No.5083125]

Do you ever remember at random embarrassing events you did when you were younger even though you’re probably the only one who remembers that thing and no one else ?

[Anonymous No.5083143]

>>5083015
dont draw every day
seems like a pretty easy solution

[Anonymous No.5083158]

>>5083125
All the time, just last night as I was dozing off to sleep I randomly remembered how I used to bring an anime figurine to class and set it up at the top of a cabinet for everyone to see and I woke myself up asking myself what the fuck was I thinking.

[Anonymous No.5083191]

I can't bring myself to draw ugly shit. But people draw worse and get more popular than me. Feels like they're all taking walkies when punting the ball while I'm refuse to swing unless I know its gonna be a home run.

[Anonymous No.5083203]

>>5083125
I think they're called intrusive thoughts. I used to get them a lot until I got with that hokey "thoughts become things" thing and believe that thinking about the past means I want history to repeat itself
I guess my vent is that the only place I can't stop the thoughts are in my nightmares, but doing the 3 step method has helped. But sometimes my dreams inspire neat art, so whatever

[Anonymous No.5083215]

>>5083125
>>5083158
I thought everyone did this? Isn't remembering the only way to stop yourself from doing those things again? Learn to forgive your past self, it's not their fault they didn't know better. Everyone in that memory are different people now than you remember.

[Anonymous No.5083218]

>>5083015
Go to a hand/arm doctor. I went for my left arm similar to carpal tunnel, which I had tried to fix with all the home remedies and knowing exactly what it was, I couldn’t make it much better and at the beginning of quarantine it flared more and became terrible. Doc gave me some cheap but prescription-only anti inflammatory gel that targets the joints and tendons and actually penetrates in, as well as 2 cushioned sleeves. After a couple months of using that my pain completely went away and I basically changed no habits at all. I pay more attention to ergonomics now and have a good setup but I still write a ton and play tons of games/pc use and no issue.

TLDR don’t ignore the doctor

[Anonymous No.5083225]

>>5083191
Social media rewards quantity over quality. But having both is ideal. You could draw literal child scribbles but if you do it often enough, you'll probably find an audience of weirdos who think it's deep and inspired. As someone with obsessive perfectionism, it is painful.

[Anonymous No.5083232]

>>5083225
Maybe your idea of perfection sucks

[Anonymous No.5083242]

>>5083191

Translation: people churn out decent enough pieces and grind but i'm too autistic to do the same. Being afraid of your work not coming out perfect is a really easy excuse to do nothing

[Anonymous No.5083363]

>>5083232
Aw widdle anony-wony wanna fighty-wighty with stwangers on the intewnet?

[Anonymous No.5083390]

wow guys nothing actually makes you feel better

[Anonymous No.5083396]

>>5083390
I said it before and I will remind you again...YOU make me feel better!

[Anonymous No.5083401]

>>5083125

everyone does

[Anonymous No.5083412]

>>5082595

Stop following trannies. Unironically. They all have the same hallmarks, if you know what to look for. And they have a ton of crossover with Tumblr, so you kill 2 birds with one stone.
Im at the point where I dont even subscribe to garden-variety, gay people either. There's not even pronouns in their bio, just the rainbow flag. Nope. Nothin' doin.
I have a saner, quieter timeline now. You can have this too. But you must be uncompromising and prune your contacts at the first offense; there is no such thing as a one-time sperg out.

[Anonymous No.5083414]

>have to lie to people trying to help you that you're feeling better so they don't leave you

[Anonymous No.5083466]

>>5083125
I had few embarrassed moments with witnesses dying in accidents or mass shootings few years later so only I remember them

[Anonymous No.5083469]

>>5083466

[Anonymous No.5083536]

>>5082767
>lab zero
>stable job
pffffffffffffffffft

[Anonymous No.5083577]

>>5082296
Just say it'll be delayed over the holiday. It's one of the few time in a year where you could get a free pass for late deliveries

[Anonymous No.5083583]

>>5082577
Set the mood with some nice bgm on the background and wait until she gets slightly tipsy

[Anonymous No.5083606]

I miss the webring.

[Anonymous No.5083610]

>>5079737
based taste, been there

[Anonymous No.5083672]

>>5083125
everyday

[Anonymous No.5083676]

i am afraid of that i am just mindlessly copying instead of analyzing and learning

[Anonymous No.5083686]

im terrified of people not seeing that /ic/ has already manifested in a physical form.

https://phys.org/news/2020-07-blue-crab-invasion-doom-albanian.html

[Anonymous No.5083707]

>>5082896
>I think my art sucks
No, it just sucks by /ic/ bizzaro tsundere standards. Post your art over at some other boards, like /co/ webcomic thread or something, and grow there. Just never stop drawing

[Anonymous No.5083717]

>>5083707
there's only two artists
good artists and shit artists who pander

[Anonymous No.5083741]

>>5083414
>they know you're lying but they play along so they don't have to deal with your shit any longer

[Anonymous No.5083742]

>>5083707
>retards with zero standards
yeah, they'll really encourage your growth.

[Anonymous No.5083760]

>>5082582
If you're willing to deal with social media crap, you could make a decent living just pandering to niche weirdos.

[Anonymous No.5083777]

>>5083742

Bitter hate wont encourage GROWTH either.

Its like a plant.

Drawthreads on /v/,/a/, deviantart, pixiv, instagram, tumblr, twitter,facebook anything etc are full of normieswho will shower you with praise if thats what you want.

Thats like growing petunias or some gay shit that only only grows in these precise conditions. UHVHUM WELL GOSH MY ART IS MY ART MOFO IF YOU LOOK AT IT OR ME WRONG ILL DRERERERRRERRREEEEEEEEXXX00OOOooo...

Whereas /ic/ is like growing poppies, motherfuckers will grow in fucking nasty conditions, barely watered and starving, constantly thirsty to ultimately produce......opium. Great. Thats what this place is, sadomasochistic addiction meets low self esteem/crushing vulnerabilities.

What you want, shit, what i yearn for is the glory days of web 1.0 when people used forums and there was a community built around rivalries and healthy challenges.and real friendships, i visited one of these mothefuckerers in person.i used to be part of that...nothing exists like that anymore. Its all just faggy HASHTAG MY NUTSACK CURLY HAIRED FUCKS NEED TO DIE 777lazer lazer


Shit its like the internet and by extension the youth has become addicted to hating themselves and hating this and that...yall dont know how fucky wucky shit is 4 real.

Im just saddened smartphones killed that vibe man. Those days even 4chan was semi secret and tolerable. Now everything is like 4chan. Theres no secret hangout place anymore. Or at least the norm was people flocked to their own, you went to said board/clique/ forum and tried your best to be a sunflower and remove toxins from distant strangers lives, not contribute more headache to the already headache inducing coma that is existance.

Fuck man. This shit is worse than having aids. At least if i had aids people would feel bad for me, but this right here? Zoomers? Peeps in their early twenties? Yall making us older folk (28ish)wanna fucking neck it. Freal.

Are you proud of that? Tell me to kys or what

[Anonymous No.5083785]

>>5083777
i've never seen someone get good without art school or a mentor

you either have one of those or you're doomed for mediocrity

[Anonymous No.5083791]

This website is my favorite website to communicate with strangers, but as an artist, this board is cancer to me. My art gets railed to the ground on here, even though I'm at least intermediate. Anytime I post my work on here, posters will say that I'm either good or my work is shit and they remind me that I'll never get a job in the industry. It makes it difficult to accept the brutal critique I come here for.

But also, this community is so small, that whenever I post my work on here again, those harsh critics will notice and be the first to tell me that I suck and say "you again?".

[Anonymous No.5083805]

>>5083777
>born in the 90s
>blaming youngsters for ruining the internet

[Anonymous No.5083815]

>>5083777
L-Lou?

[Anonymous No.5083868]

Anyone else have days were they literally can't paint?
I've spent several nights now painting (traditional) work, in oil, the at the end of the night everything I've done gets wiped off.
It's like I can't even paint any more, like I'm a baby.
Imagine being an instructor and having classes where you suddenly can't paint like you could the day before, you'd look retarded. But I get this every few weeks or months.
WTF?
What if it never goes away???

[Anonymous No.5083893]

How can I keep my family from getting me down
Most of the time I'm pretty motivated but then this really kills me, I feel like rot
Moving out isn't financially possible either

[Anonymous No.5083935]

>>5083893
maybe you should listen to them
they're probably right

[Anonymous No.5083944]

>>5083935
It has nothing to do with me directly. They dislike each other and force me into the crossfire when I try to stay out.

[Anonymous No.5083965]

>>5081146
Apologies for the very late response, if you're even still here. I'd call myself a pretty average person, aside from my crushing vidya addiction, shitty mental state, and lack of socialization. I've wasted my childhood and teenage years propped in front of a screen any spare second I had. I had zero friends for most of my upbringing and family life was pretty shit so naturally video games were my escape from reality. My motivation and discipline is practically none. I isolate myself from any form of contact. It's gotten worse than ever because of covid and there's no end in sight. Just finished college which has lead to more playing and fucking around as I have no obligation to study and I have enough money for now so that I need not start working. All I want is to make something, all I want is to leave behind a legacy. I want to do that through art. I'm tired of being a ghost. I want to be acknowledged for my work. I don't want to die having lived my life as a ghost, nothing more than a consumer, living off other's creations.

[Anonymous No.5083969]

>>5081613
Footfags are where the money's at, keep at it bro.

[Anonymous No.5083974]

>>5083944
your problems aren't big

[Anonymous No.5083977]

>>5083974
Haha, okay. Tell me how yours are super massive, then. Are we in a pity contest, for fucks sakes?

[Anonymous No.5083983]

>>5083974
And you're a retarded sperg to begin with. >Maybe you should listen to them!
Thanks, anon! Really helpful. Maybe you should neck yourself, immediately!
I'm not going to go beg on the streets just because I've been told to do so.

[Anonymous No.5083985]

>>5083965
you're like me dude, you're literally in the same place i am
discipline is a hard thing to get, and most people who have it, or even had guidance take that for granted. i wish i had that
addiction is also hard to kick, but this is just a mental addiction. Most people will never understand what its like to have a mental addiction though.

the best thing i could tell you is make a point to learn something new everyday. Download those videoes, and write notes for everything along side drawing. this is your time

[Anonymous No.5083988]

>>5083965
>all I want is to leave behind a legacy. I want to do that through art. I'm tired of being a ghost. I want to be acknowledged for my work. I don't want to die having lived my life as a ghost, nothing more than a consumer, living off other's creations

four noble truths, ozymandias, ecclesiastes, tmt something something

[Anonymous No.5083992]

>>5083977
>>5083983
im telling you this so you don't have to think they define you

[Anonymous No.5084000]

I'm bored to the literal tears everytime I try to watch courses or do studies. I can see that these courses really do help me out but I honestly cant watch more than 10 minutes at a time without feeling my soul leave my body.

[Anonymous No.5084002]

>>5083992
My bad. Sorry, I'm kind of upset right now.
I think it's hard to separate themself from me entirely because they affect my entire living/familial situation and I'm not in a place to get out of it.
Normally I would say that they don't define me too much. Or I try to avoid it. I'm pretty cheerful.

[Anonymous No.5084016]

sequels out the fucking ass in january
guess it's time to just watch older shows then

[Anonymous No.5084029]

you really are spoiled if you have a supportive family

[Anonymous No.5084182]

First time ordering something online like a fucking boomer I am, panicked cancelled the order and then reordered. Now my stuff is one day late

[Anonymous No.5084190]

>>5084182
you're cute <3

[Anonymous No.5084313]

Dear Santa,
Do not bring me any gifts this year,
because there are needier people than me...
Instead, I want you to give every cumbrain
Every porn drawing faggot and all the weebs
A warm bullet in the head
Ty

[Anonymous No.5084332]

>>5083965
>All I want is to make something, all I want is to leave behind a legacy. I want to do that through art.
You're fucked, it's over. People only want consumable products now, you could make the greatest thing and all they'd want is porn of the characters. Don't cuck yourself. What people deserve is not that you sacrifice your time making inspiring art, what people deserve is that you become a lawyer who saves companies when they get sued for lacing baby food with lead. Ironically you would also get more respect and approval if you did that. Fuck people, fuck "legacy"

[Anonymous No.5084335]

I'm so so lonely

[Anonymous No.5084372]

The last thread sort of devolved but I've been thinking about some of the anons if they're still around. Sometimes it's tempting to sit back and just say fuck it, the world (and people) gets what it deserves. But it's not true. No one deserves to grow up only to starve to death on a diet of plastic and filth. But the answer doesn't come from focusing on that. Other peoples folly is heartbreaking to watch, personally or en masse, but the only answer is to be the alternative yourself.
It doesn't have to be lonely either, but searching for a depth of understanding is somewhat a rigged game. If you had a perfect twin in experience, what would you even say to each other? It would be boring and predictable. Even in commonalities, it's disparity that gives life to it. And the perfect ideal friend, you would simply trust and accept whatever they sent your way. So simply be that way(within whatever reasonable limits you want to set) for everyone else, and the rest will sort itself out. Don't get hung up on what you don't have in common, or problems, instead, make something out of whatever you've got.
Today I'm going to savor the cold mountain air, some flavors most people will never know about, and draw something that hopefully at least loosely reflects that. You’re welcome to join in anytime.
Merry holidays anons.

[Anonymous No.5084402]

>>5084372
>No one deserves to grow up only to starve to death on a diet of plastic and filth.
Yes they do, people will actively choose this every single time.
>Other peoples folly is heartbreaking to watch, personally or en masse, but the only answer is to be the alternative yourself.
No the alternative is to never lift a finger for this filthy society. I have understood that all criticism of hatred is literally just about avoiding tensions among subjects. The truth is that people deserve to be hated, they are filth, they are stupid, and giving them freedom and choice has turned out to be a disaster.
>Don't get hung up on what you don't have in common, or problems, instead, make something out of whatever you've got.
What is there to have "in common" with hedonistic consumers? They just chase stimuli like animals, they don't have a personality I can measure my own against. So I don't get where you are coming from with this "differences" angle, you don't learn to enjoy the company of junkies and drug dealers if you are incompatible with all the implications.
>and draw something that hopefully at least loosely reflects that.
Yeah big anime tits
Merry Christmas

[Anonymous No.5084424]

>>5084402
>Yes they do, people will actively choose this every single time.
Some will. And they don't deserve it either.
>No the alternative is to never lift a finger for this filthy society. I have understood that all criticism of hatred is literally just about avoiding tensions among subjects. The truth is that people deserve to be hated, they are filth, they are stupid, and giving them freedom and choice has turned out to be a disaster.
There's a lot more to life and people that you are missing. All of it that's worthwhile it seems.
>What is there to have "in common" with hedonistic consumers? They just chase stimuli like animals, they don't have a personality I can measure my own against. So I don't get where you are coming from with this "differences" angle, you don't learn to enjoy the company of junkies and drug dealers if you are incompatible with all the implications.
You learn to empathize with the part of people that existed before they allowed themselves to give up. However small, minus a truly small percentage of people, it still exists. And you build on that, no matter the scope of their problems. To focus on the negative is to give up, to join them and create more. But give them something human instead of chasing problems, and you give them something worth considering. A bit of warmth, compassion and understanding that gives them something worth fighting for. Alongside you too more than likely.
>big anime tits
I was rather thinking a snowmobiler trying to prod a lethargic moose out of the way

[Anonymous No.5084434]

>>5084424
>To focus on the negative is to give up, to join them and create more.
YOU do that. You haven't made a single compelling argument except "cuck yourself for the sheep, it's the right thing to do!", the same shit that's been fed to kids so that they'd chase useless dreams and become consumers. You work and create "content" for the consoomers' buffet and watch them eat up the porn and garbage. Why do you invite me to waste my time? Waste yours. What have you produced, what have you put forward, what have you tried doing to give them? I bet nothing. Do that for years and years and tell me again if I'm not right.

[Anonymous No.5084501]

I really do have to try 5 times as hard as a gaijincuck, huh. No way around it.

[Anonymous No.5084503]

>>5084434
I have been doing it for years and years anon. And been burned for it plenty. I have more stories from just that that it's downright ridiculous. But it's all part of walking down that road. You take what comes in stride, and you find contentment, even joy among the wretched misery. It's worth walking it every time for the occasional small and not so small triumphs along the way. And not all of them you can see either. But don't believe me if you don't want to, anonymoose. I'm content for my efforts, and I hope you can find that too.

[Anonymous No.5084513]

>>5084503
>>5084503
>I have been doing it for years and years anon. And been burned for it plenty. I have more stories from just that that it's downright ridiculous.
You're lying, but keep coping. I'm done trying to do anything. I can't force-feed people things they don't want, I refuse to waste my time making things nobody wants and being told I am silly for not just pandering. People want nothing but disposable entertainment and they want their lizard brain to get tickled, they want it free, they want quantity over quality, they want it to be easy and trashy and vulgar and "cute" in a way that makes their dick hard, they want to self-insert, they want the lowest low brow, what is the point in trying to force-feed them something else if they don't want it? Doing anything but porn or other pandering is plain retarded, and I can't fathom how anybody even tries anymore when a shitty sketch of a futa cock or some other ugly scum gets more appreciation, not just in short-term likes but also as far as what people will put their minds and commit their memories and imagination to, than literally anything else. People connect better to this shit on all levels, there is no demand for anything "inspiring" and if something accidentally managed to slip through it's immediately deep-fried and painted with slutty makeup so it sells better. Please tell me what is the fucking point in doing a single thing art-related when I can use the same time to do literally anything else and it would be less of an inconsequential waste of time. Even playing a fucking videogame and relaxing for 30 minutes makes more sense than producing worthless consumer products nobody wants because of abstracted, autistic commitment that is entirely based on industrial propaganda to get people to work as hard as they can on producing goods, ground so hard into people's brains that they keep following this useless gospel even when it's clearly become worthless, like zombies repeating the last thing they did.

[Anonymous No.5084525]

I legit can't get out of /beg/ after 3 years of drawing.

I've been through; anatomy for sculptors, light and color, figure drawing for all it's worth, fun with a pencil, figure drawing: design and invention, and perspective made easy.
I don't know what else to do.
I even read some other books here and there but it's not working.
I've taken advice from others here and tried to improve.
Like adding gesture, trying to think in 3D, stylisation and more. However I'm stuck and can't improve.

I keep venting on different threads too so I annoy even more people.

[Anonymous No.5084555]

>Be a coom artist
>Every character I have ever drawn is a voluptuous big titty female.
>Get asked to draw shota and loli.

Why the fuck would you come to meeeeee for this? why not go to someone who advertises themself as a loli/shota artist?

i used to think people who wrote in their commission sheet things like "no furry" were dumb because why would someone who wants a furry drawing go to your human drawing ass? they would go to a furry artist. but No. they do come to you.

[Anonymous No.5084565]

>>5084513
I'm not arguing against all that whatsoever anon, about consumers as a whole.
But, I have a handful of people who have/do appreciate what I do, and I’m content with that. The ones you can personally reach are always worth the time. But even if I didn't have anyone, why would I ever trade in gold for plastic?
I consider it a personal truth for me that I'd rather connect to a small number of people individually than sell something shallow to a fuckload of them. I happen to think that's what people's brains are wired for too, but by all means anon, chase what you think you want to.
Later hoser

[Anonymous No.5084591]

>>5084525
have you tried just drawing instead of reading books

[Anonymous No.5084597]

>>5084565
>But, I have a handful of people who have/do appreciate what I do
good for you, congratulations

[Anonymous No.5084615]

>>5084591
That's what I spend most of my time doing. I draw for hours and hours a day.

[Anonymous No.5084672]

I got a tilt-sensitive pen.
It's nice.

[Anonymous No.5084702]

>>5079630
I have a truth to tell you.
It doesn't matter what you want to do. Patience doesn't matter. Goals don't matter. Diligence doesn't matter. Focus doesn't matter. Impulse control, willpower, moderation, motivation, attention span, none of it matters.
The only thing that matters is ease. Ease is the only measure for these things. Difficult things aren't difficult, they're just less easy.
Go and do the things that are easy. Make the things you want to do easy. Make them the easiest things you could do at any time.

[Anonymous No.5084737]

>>5084702
Running is more annoying if you're not in the lead or at least trying to be

[Anonymous No.5084832]

It's really weird the way social media doesn't let media die naturally, but kills it. Old shows and movies and games that were a hit before the advent of social media, just faded out as they became replaced by some new hotness. But people returned to that stuff periodically because they had no reason to feel negative toward it. It's just old, you just forgot about it. It's still got potential to be enjoyed.
But now with social media if something becomes a hit, you can't avoid it no matter how hard you try. Something gets insanely popular, and then it's milked and memed endlessly and some shitters start fights with other shitters about it for the whole world to witness. It creates this fatigue in people about the media in question. It dies not just because it gets replaced by the new hotness, but because people get tired of looking at it or its fans. The last memory people have of modern sensations is hating those things, or at least being annoyed by them in some way.
I try to really avoid fandom and online discussion of new stuff I like, but it's impossible to avoid unless you never type it into a search bar even once.

[Anonymous No.5084849]

I can’t get neet bucks anymore;-;

[Anonymous No.5084926]

>draw shitty doodle without using guidelines or fundies
>Looks good
>Trying actually using guidelines and fundies
>Looks like shit
I don't understand

[Anonymous No.5084948]

dogs eat dog food

[Anonymous No.5084975]

>>5079617
>commission artist months ago pay upfront got a sketch
>hear nothing for awhile
>send emails most of which they don't respond to, have to send a second email 'they will update me soon with progress'
>nothing
>send an email a week ago
>nothing

fuck, I'm seething. artist is on one of those commission websites and now I'm thinking of posing as an interested commissioner and springing the unfinished commission and saying, 'hey fuckhead, finish this!'. How do you think they'd take that?

[Anonymous No.5084978]

>>5084975

do a chargeback on your credit card or paypal.

[Anonymous No.5084983]

>>5084978
hmm that actually did not occur to me, I'm not going to commission this artist again so sounds like something worth looking into. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.5085020]

>>5084978
Wait how does an artist protect himself from scummy chargebacks?

[Anonymous No.5085101]

>Spent a lot of time doing Christmas related stuff for my social media
>Read about marketing and when to post in relation to my followers
>Schedule the thing at the perfect hour and go to sleep
>Wake up with 8 likes, no retweets

>Quick commission for 30 USD
>Doing the job, nothing less and nothing more
>Post result on Twitter at whatever hour
>Big success
>100 Retweets and 780 likes

I know I shouldn't focus on social media engagement but, I'm gonna need it for cash in the future, but it's so frustrating
I'm to much of a robot to know what people want

[Anonymous No.5085114]

>>5085101
what did you draw your OC in christmas outfit with 'merry christmas'? and your commission was probably a big titty animu girl spraying milk and piss everywhere with a dick in every hole right

[Anonymous No.5085118]

>>5085114
Not quite that, but yeah, I get what you're saying, popular character wins attention
And I don't have nothing against it? I just wish people could appreciate technique a bit more

[Anonymous No.5085122]

>>5085114
I like the character they asked me for my commission, it wasn't lewd or anything and I've draw her before, somehow it gain tons of attention out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.5085134]

>>5085122
who did you draw?

[Anonymous No.5085137]

>>5085134
This Marisa, my favorite character from Touhou so no prob
And, yes, for Christmas I did draw my OC
BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!!

[Anonymous No.5085139]

Too many people think there's only one way to do gesture. You don't have to do things the vilppu way if you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.5085141]

>>5085139
I just mimic my favorite artist how they do "gesture". It's very helpful when they upload studies.

[Anonymous No.5085151]

>>5085141
As long as they aren't stiff it's all valid gesture

[Anonymous No.5085189]

>>5084832
>It creates this fatigue in people about the media in question. It dies not just because it gets replaced by the new hotness, but because people get tired of looking at it or its fans. The last memory people have of modern sensations is hating those things, or at least being annoyed by them in some way.
This is how i feel about people in general

[Anonymous No.5085293]

I draw literally all day. I don't really want to spend my freetime doing anything else.

WTF do normalfags spend their time doing besides work? I genuinely don't know.
Don't say "cooking" or "watching Netflix" you can't do that 10hrs a day...
>>5085139
Vilppu's is not a "method", it's more a mindset- you use lines to describe movement, balance, and form.
>>5081613
Feet and hands are challenging but very fun

[Anonymous No.5085308]

>>5085293
>Vilppu's is not a "method", it's more a mindset- you use lines to describe movement, balance, and form.
Sure. That doesn't mean it's the only way or the authoritative way to do gesture.

[Anonymous No.5085323]

>instagram wants you to post reels
>they actively punish you if you don't use all their features
>"ok I will severely slow down my process to make my first reel"
>post reel
>no likes coming in
>find out reels simply don't show up in recent hashtags, only featured hashtags because they need to be HAND PICKED by instagram

this is bullshit man

[Anonymous No.5085327]

>>5085323
get off instagram

[Anonymous No.5085330]

>>5085323
literally have no idea what you mean cuz not some social media dipshit but quit being a little faggot

[Anonymous No.5085335]

>>5085327
>>5085330
ngmi

[Anonymous No.5085398]

God damn it my mom probably saw this stupid jermate ad on my tablet

Fuck

[Anonymous No.5085631]

fucking hate companies that end their christmas sales right before christmas. i don't want to buy something and then maybe get it as a gift.

[Anonymous No.5085640]

>>5083965
I fucking envy people who can get hooked up on vidya this much. I just get bored too fast, no escape for me

[Anonymous No.5085653]

>>5084983
No problemo, anon! Stay safe.

>>5085020

I think you have to be able to prove the goods were not delivered to you, if you were the buyer. Its easier to do for credit than debit.

[Anonymous No.5085655]

im really depressed and also unsure about life
not sure if i wanna keep existing as a broke neet on disability scraping ny or get funding to go back to school for art which i might not be able to handle due to health issues i feel like i should just end my life because im scraping by barely existing and my drawings will never really matter
I just want to draw and paint but i dont want to put my body under too much stress
Im having seizures again and i just cant do anythung

[Anonymous No.5085662]

>>5081631
Just do everything in kino black and white

[Anonymous No.5085663]

>>5082048
Just start an LLC and register a business paypal

[Anonymous No.5085676]

>>5083777
As someone who was a big name in AMVs (yeah I know I know) years ago, I fucking miss it too... community died, awesome friends left the community, and all people make now are shitty 10 second video clips covered in effects for no goddamn reason set to shitty trap music, and wear a huge chip on their shoulders because they have 10k Instagram people who suck their dick every time they post an "edit"

I tried to get back into art but it's really depressing that I can't seem to find the same sense of community I once knew.

[Anonymous No.5085681]

I have the talent and skill to draw coom however I am not fucking interested in porn etc. I wish I was a coomer and loved porn, but I simply don't. I can't even force myself to do it to "make it". I am never horny.

[poo No.5085688]

>>5081141
Make another account and talk to them
if they respond ask them about wtf is happening
if the explanation justifies the wait
(I shit or something)
wait until you get your commission and when you get it, don't commission the same person ever again until their IRL bullshit ends
if the explanation is bullshit or lies or just anything to excuse laziness, reveal your self and ask for a refund or step on their tail and remind them about your commission constantly, if you get your commission, leave and never commission them again, if not ... gg ... kiss your money goodbye, by the way ... how much did you pay?

[poo No.5085694]

>>5085688
(irl* shit or something)
Autocorrect

[Anonymous No.5085753]

>>5085688
They ended up finishing it within a day after I asked to be partially refunded. When confronted, they replied that they had it already started digitally painting but provided no proof, so I pressed them to send a screenshot. They ignored that and instead sent almost-final thing the next day.

I was actually pretty happy with the result, but the noise was turned wayyy up, detracting from the piece. I quickly asked to turn it down. An hour later they sent the "final" piece, which actually looked worse, said they didn't save the .psd so they can't turn down the noise, and that was it. So the not saving the .psd part revealed they lied about already beginning the piece. I didn't even respond, just unfollowed them.

It was $50 for a headshot. I would've been a return customer because their art is actually really nice, but poor customer service like that is unacceptable.

[poo No.5085765]

>>5085753
Good for ya
ALWAYS press on an artist when they waste so much time without any progress
also don't forget
they always put the "No deadline then no need to rush" as an excuse in their head for laziness
deadline is always necessary especially when you are dealing with an artist for the first time
Oh and I'll keep in mind saving my .sai files for edits
this might help me as an artist in the future


c-can I see that headshot :w:??

[Anonymous No.5085781]

>>5085765
Yeah, if they were up front about it I'd be totally cool about waiting, I know shit happens. All you need is a "hey, I haven't forgotten about you, life is just crazy atm" every month or so.

I def recommend keeping editable files of finished work, whether they're commissions or personal. I include the editable file in all my commissions in case the client wants to edit it themselves or just see my process.

Lol it's still 4chan so even though the artist gave me a hard time, I don't wanna blast them on here. Plus it's for a furry character so I'd get bullied hahah

[Anonymous No.5085926]

god i wish i just had some actual irl friends. I miss my old friends so bad but even with them i never felt entirely comfortable or at ease. I just want someone to be around and maybe draw with, that i feel i can actually relate to

[Anonymous No.5086027]

I fucking hate drawing heads they always come out ugly as shit but I'm so tired of the same face syndrome why this shit has to be so complicated

[Anonymous No.5086057]

>>5085655
there's no shame in trying to meet your survival needs before anything else

[Anonymous No.5086061]

>>5083015
Tendon injuries are complete bitches. The damage they take scales exponentially, not linearly. Take care of that shit.
>t.guy who fucked his hands permanently and had to spend multiple years recovering

[Anonymous No.5086160]

>>5084525
get critiques

[Anonymous No.5086162]

>>5084335
Merry Christmas lonely anon.

[Anonymous No.5086173]

>>5085926
Iktf. Relateability usually seems a fleeting tease at best. The best I think is to try to make something of it anywhere you can find it, without overthinking it. But easier said than done.

[Anonymous No.5086199]

>>5086160
I do constantly, that's how I know that they're still /beg/ tier.

[Anonymous No.5086200]

I think I’m turning gay. What should I do to stop this? Fuck

[Anonymous No.5086204]

When i was in art school i liked to sabotage other peoples work with this fucking perfume we all got so we could make a painting based off of its scent. Was a advertising scheme and winner would get like 500 bucks or something...

ANYWAYS, me and my fucking buddies would go around looking for any furry or anime faggots putting their art up and would spray the absolute shit out of their paintings with our perfume, and since it was alcohol based everything literally began to melt. We fucking dumped that shit in the bathrooms, sprayed it in the halls, poured it in peoples backpacks and in cars... not a single one of us got found out.

[Anonymous No.5086205]

>>5086204

Perfume was called Dr. Aroma i think, it smells absolutely horrible

[Anonymous No.5086207]

>>5079617

I never wanted it to be this way, I never wanted to be a mediocre porn artist. what I wanted was to become a flash animator that makes animations and flash games. I wanted to make silly cartoons and dumb edgy games. I wanted to be a game designer. but now since it's dead, I cant.....

my art life is a mistake

[Anonymous No.5086210]

>>5086207

Youre a mistake for liking all of those things, PUSSY

[Anonymous No.5086216]

>doing some gesture drawing on Quickposes
>doing pretty good
>this fucking picture comes up (immediately save it)
I somehow managed to draw the gesture but man that really threw me off. I'm NGMI am I?

[Anonymous No.5086274]

>look for stuff in the archive for opinion on course
>come across a post of mine in 2018
>mention im 25 haha I can still make it!!!!
>pre 2021 and now 27
>still didnt make it
>redoing a course I attempted to try nearly 3 years ago
why do I still do art

[Anonymous No.5086316]

>>5086216
BOOBA

[Anonymous No.5086373]

>>5086216
Perfectly natural reaction; GMI

[Anonymous No.5086420]

Fuck, i'm at a point where i won't passively get better anymore. Time to get serious this year ig

[Anonymous No.5086452]

>>5086274
I'm gonna give biggest gray pill.
Successed artist or whatever just do their job without seriousness or imagine fancy shit they just did it because it was exist.
Over planning is useless too because world doesn't spin like you planned

So waiting for SPARK and go outside occasionally
Stop overthinking or obsess like
"I have to make it!" "I have to make it!"
Fuck you don't and you will get too much stress, that's not how fucking works

[Anonymous No.5087439]

>>5086216
I have never seen girls this skinny with badonka-donks this massive

[Anonymous No.5087467]

>>5086200
Why would you be turning gay? Are you falling for another guy?

[Anonymous No.5087524]

>>5086452
>that's not how fucking works

just give 'er the ol' "in-out in-out" guv

[Anonymous No.5087543]

>>5079617
I WANT MY FUCKING KAMVAS PRO 16 I WANT IT NOW STUPID FEDEX CHINKMUTTS its fucking International Priority reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.5087735]

>>5079617
>Start reminiscing on Christmas classics
>Watch the original Frosty the Snowman
>For a split second there's a part where a girl flails her arms up arguing while her shirt is picked up
>You could actually see bare cunny and even part of her butt
>Christmas classic instantly ruined
What the fuck.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6p6LRtQ2WY
Skip to 4:02

[Anonymous No.5087752]

>>5087735
kek

[Anonymous No.5087753]

>>5087467
I look at yaoi too much. I'm at the point still where real guys turn me off, but drawn guys are looking hotter and hotter

[Anonymous No.5087823]

>>5081631
>color blind artist
>frind is only good at coloring
>it's like magic others like it
>...
>meed 4th dimental DMT elf
>he then enchants the art
>IT'S LIEK MAGIC!

[Anonymous No.5087837]

every face i draw is off balance and awkwardly skewed

[Anonymous No.5088207]

IM SO GODDAMN SAD

[Anonymous No.5088211]

IM SO GODDAMN LONELY

[Anonymous No.5088212]

>>5088211
You could just talk to me anytime you know.

[Anonymous No.5088217]

>>5088212
My friends all say that. But it’s been 3 years, how can I message them? It’s my OWN GODDAMN FAULT THAT IM LONELY. I’m so sick and tired of living. Not gonna kill myself but goddamn I have nothing to live for

[Anonymous No.5088219]

Why did I have to be born so broken. Sorry for spamming the vent thread I have no one else. I didn’t know it was possible to be this lonely . I know it’s only going to get worse from here

[Anonymous No.5088221]

>>5088217
Try messaging them. Worst case scenario they just don’t really remember you but at least you get to confirm if they still remember you or not.

[Anonymous No.5088225]

>>5088221
I can’t take anymore rejection. I just can’t.

[Anonymous No.5088236]

>>5088225
I understand a bit. When you say it’s your fault, why is that? Do you just stop talking to others at some point?

[Anonymous No.5088244]

>>5088236
I never knew how to maintain friendships. I never invited people out. I never got people gifts. I never could carry conversations. All I did was play games for the first 18 years of my life and they were my gaming buddies. When I stopped playing league to pursue art full time I kinda just dropped off the radar for them. I hung around for a bit but it was clear nobody knew what to do with me or wanted me around. Then I just left, saved them the trouble. The one who was my “best friend” was already hanging out behind my back anyways.

I just feel, so valueless as a human being. It doesn’t help when I come here and say stupid cringe shit either.

[Anonymous No.5088299]

>>5088244
I'm assuming these are IRL friends you had? At least it sounds like it. You went to devote more time into a career instead of gaming all day. Maybe you just lost interest in league and they sensed it.

If they're online gaming friends then I wouldn't worry about it so much. I doubt anyone would remember me if I were to log into WoW after all this time.

[Anonymous No.5088670]

>>5087753
You where probably always a dyke.

[Anonymous No.5088741]

>>5081141
What was the commission? Maybe I can help

[Anonymous No.5088756]

>drew porn for the first time ever, just for myself
>actually turned out pretty good
>want to post it just on 4chan and maybe even take commissions if people like it enough
>but I don't want it getting spread around and having it potentially linked to my sfw stuff
>so I won't

[Anonymous No.5088763]

>>5088217
>But it’s been 3 years
>3 years
buckle up son the ride has barely begun

[Anonymous No.5089137]

>>5088299
>>5088763
ty for talking to me last night <3 i went a bit insane

https://youtu.be/H87GqJujcOk

Here's a cool song I love. Maybe you'll like it too

[Anonymous No.5089317]

>try drawing
>People hound me irl and over discord to spend time with them
>Try to be alone or mention I'm drawing
>They get upset that I don't spend time with them
>Mental issues kick in and I snap at everyone because I just want to draw and be alone
>They say sorry and cycle repeats
This is why I only want a boyfriend and no friends, they just get in the way and cause issues for me.

[Anonymous No.5089329]

>>5089317
You’re a girl, right? Please be my gf.

[Anonymous No.5089331]

>>5085308
If you're not doing something in a way that Vilppu would sanction, then you're not doing it at all.
But you probably have a meme tier understanding of him, so this will mean something different to you than the people who paid attention.

[Anonymous No.5089352]

>>5088211
you deserve to be lonely if you don't try

[Anonymous No.5089370]

UBI PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.5089372]

>>5079617
I want to make it

[Anonymous No.5089418]

>>5089317
Should of pretended to be a man anon, or say you transitioned kek

[Anonymous No.5089426]

>>5079617
I'm part of an art discord where we share finished pieces, critique and there's also a general for people to... talk about their lives I guess?
Anyway I post my art there once other month or so, when I'm reaaaally happy with a piece and it'll get like 9 emotes or whatever which is nice and all but not even 1 comment, then someone will post what looks beneath /beg/ tier and it will get hundreds of emotes and 30 comments or something like that. It's making me seethe but I suppose it's just because they are someone who participates in the general often so they get circlejerked and I've never posted in it so they don't care about me, at least that's what I tell myself to cope with the fact their shitty art gets more attention than mine.

[Anonymous No.5089437]

>>5089426
Discords are like that. People also suck up to those who have a lot of followers.

[Anonymous No.5089461]

>>5089418
Only recently my ex bf gave solid advice to say I'm a tranny and *most* guys will flee, thankfully. The others are just creeps. I had to always pretend to be a boy while playing games and I'm just a bit over everything

[Anonymous No.5089463]

>>5089461
>tfw roasties are responsible for the mass hate on trannies

[Anonymous No.5089520]

A small time artist I really liked recently torched their accounts and I regret not having saved everything I could. I also should have browsed the artists they followed for similar stuff. Damn.

[Anonymous No.5089531]

I have to say it somewhere

WITCH HAT ATELIER IS BORING AND THE ART OF LATER CHAPTERS HAS BEEN SHIT

STOP ACTING LIKE THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF MANGA

[Anonymous No.5089534]

>>5089531
thanks for reminding me theres an update anon

[Anonymous No.5089541]

>>5089534
np :)

[Anonymous No.5089544]

>>5089531
You don't really have to say it, you can just keep your incredibly wrong opinions to yourself.

[Anonymous No.5089545]

>>5089541
no seriously anon I forgot the title of the manga and saw there was an update

[Anonymous No.5089970]

why do i feel pain while drawing

[Anonymous No.5090011]

I'm worried, I'm starting to like drawing again, doing something for fun and out of love but I'm worried and every time I draw I cry, I'm doing it right now. Worried about time skill and doing it like a teenage girl, I'm the one person that used to constantly make the threads resenting others for my "4 months wasted", I just want to be like my heroes but time makes me despair, I can't afford to lose time I can't afford not to improve, people like ME and I mean ME don't make it, I have no personal hero I can relate no underdog story to aspire to be, I have nothing, I didn't even exist a year ago or the year before that, I was born at almost 20, it could be said.

Art is cruel but addicting, right now I can't make art unless I improve but the crushing reality of the difference between what I can make and what I want to make is indeed, crushing. You can feel all the time or shut up and draw! but there's only so much worry the heart can take, all along the page you're hurting yourself with expectation and aspiration, in 6 months will I be better? People like me don't tend to make it.
My heroes have nothing in common with me, Masaaki Yuasa? Yukito Kishiro? Van Gogh? Katsuhiro Otomo? Jean-Michel Basquiat? Taiyō Matsumoto? GITS guy? Hokusai?
For someone born at 18, I'm sure as hell dramatic and sentimental.

[Anonymous No.5090024]

>>5090011
I'm a walking breathing paradox, sentimental but afraid to convey emotion in my drawings, volatile but always playing it safe, passionate but frigid, afraid but persistent. I want to make it, I want to be like my heroes, it's not a good drawing but it's one I did and I love, that person? I draw for them, the way they make me feel, I can't convey it right now, I lack the skill, will I ever get it? I crave it, I hunger for improvement, I'm starving for it! I love them and I just want to capture what they make me feel, that's why some of my heroes and their art is so explosive, everything feels so intense from time to time.
Yet I'm obsessed with ending my life, skipping straight to the end, accepting defeat at the hands of time, I just need for people to know my emotions through art, my name.

[Anonymous No.5090031]

>>5090024
What do I mean by people like me? Someone that comes from nothing, it's no secret that to be remembered in art, most that are remembered come from well off families, not me.
My name is not special and I'm afraid that extends to my being, I despair over it, what if it's true? I, I couldn't take it and a bullet to the brain can end all issues but I'm unsure.
So that's the reason I was so emotional about my 4 months, there's no time to waste even though I do waste it, we all tend to waste some.

[Anonymous No.5090037]

>>5090031
You weren't hit enough as a child

[Anonymous No.5090040]

>>5090037
I had enough of that, believe me.

[Anonymous No.5090044]

>>5090040
No, believe me, you haven't.

[Anonymous No.5090045]

>>5090044
Why?

[Anonymous No.5090056]

>>5090037
He's not as annoying as the insane /dtg/ schizo though. That's the one who wasn't hit enough as a child. At least the 4 monthfag drew for 4 months. When all's said and done, maybe in two years the 4 monthfag will have made it.

[Anonymous No.5090059]

Also 4 months is still a lot longer than sadlawn's 1 month

[Anonymous No.5090063]

>>5090059
>>5090056
How to draw like my heroes
Please help me

[Anonymous No.5090065]

>>5079630
Unless you’re playing total war: warhammer 2 empire campaign you’re NGMI

[Anonymous No.5090067]

>>5090063
focus on copying things precisely
even if you have to use a grid and a ruler. also use a mirror to compare if it's perfect or not
Once you can copy things perfectly, try and look at two things and in your head combine them and draw the result. Then you have mastered observational drawing and can draw well with a reference. All that's then left is tackling things without a reference (like construction and perspective)

[Anonymous No.5090069]

>>5090067
I've done my research and a grid hinders development, if I am to solve it I have to go straight to the issue, my lack of skill at grasping the form.

[Anonymous No.5090072]

>>5090063
>>5090067
This. Also, take notes. Go through people you like’s art and take notes on what you like and what they do well. That gives you more concrete things to work on and think about instead of just “wow they’re really good”

[Anonymous No.5090077]

>>5090069
The reason why people say to do observation drawing first is because that's the one that makes your art look awesome even though you might not understand why something looks good the way it looks or you might become dependent on reference.

Form's tricky. I didn't understand it at all until I saw Robert Lemen talk about it in the clothing lecture, but I kinda also picked it up from al the 3D modelling I've started doing. Do you know that a lot of 3D objects exist on sketchfab? So if you, for example, wanted to draw an anime head from all directions you can just use sketchfab as a reference.

If you want to go form first, the CGMA "dynamic sketching course" should teach you how to look at form but I haven't watched that yet because I'm doing perspective with Olson first.

[Anonymous No.5090080]

>>5084525
Are you just practicing? I found I got better when I started doing actual pieces. The first ones sucked, so did the second and third, but it got better slowly. I put my time into it then just the practice.

[Anonymous No.5090082]

>>5084525
Hvae you tried copying other artists? This is a big one.

[Anonymous No.5090109]

All these fucking books and vids yet I still haven't finished reading FUN with a pencil since I keep feeling as I should done the fundies first. But when I do I get confused and my brain starts hurting like hell from drawing one circle then shuts it self off to vidya.

I already know I'm a NGMI anyways but I keep getting urges to pick up and draw something it fucking sucks so much I want to scream about why can't I just fucking draw without being a fucking autist about why my shit isn't good enough to get attention.

[Anonymous No.5090113]

>>5079617
I have done more art than ever this year alone and I only regressed. FUCK! SHITLOADS OF NEGATIVE PROGRESS!!!

[Anonymous No.5090116]

>>5084525
Post work, and if its halfway decent or good I'm gonna personally travel where you are and punch you in the neck multiple times!

[Anonymous No.5090122]

>>5090080
I do constantly, I draw for hours a day, revise anatomy weekly, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I'm open to any and all suggestions. Right now I'm trying to think more in 3D by doing wireframes.
>>5090082
Yeah, I do that too. More frequently now too. I also always reference whenever I draw.
>>5090116
Here you go.
I wouldn't say it's terrible, but it's still /beg/ tier. People keep pointing out flaws in it and call it /beg/, some say it's close to /int/. Still at the end of the day I'm still /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5090124]

>>5090122
I do remember you, and you have progressed a lot, I would say you qualify to get punched.

[Anonymous No.5090128]

>>5090122
Could you post your studies? Like when you’re studying anatomy what does that look like?

[Anonymous No.5090133]

>>5090124
The problem isn't if my art is good or not. It's that I'm still /beg/ tier.
I want to be /int/. I put in so much effort only to still be in /beg/. I spend hours and hours studying a day. I gave up other hobbies like learning a language, reading and video games.
I want to go up a level at the very least, even to low /int/, but most people still call me /beg/ and nobody questions me posting art in the /beg/ thread like I belong there.

>>5090128
I mainly just grind anatomy and do figure drawings or draw real people for most of my studying. I've been practicing wireframing more recently to try to think in 3D as well as try to draw from imagination.
People have said that my studies show effort but lack gesture and a grasp of fundamentals. I'm mainly just drawing what I see when I do studies so there wouldn't be much gesture in the books or real life.
Still, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm open to suggestions.

[Anonymous No.5090134]

>>5090122
it's /int/ as I said last time just your colouring etc needs work I'm sure I've seen people worse than you do commissions

[Anonymous No.5090135]

>>5090134
I'm thankful for that, but most people here call me /beg/. I'm not saying that your opinion doesn't matter or anything it's just that more people tend to say it so I guess that's what /ic/ thinks of me more as.

[Anonymous No.5090137]

i sad

[Anonymous No.5090139]

>>5090135
high /beg/ then

[Anonymous No.5090159]

>>5090133
I wanna give you credit for the amount of time you’re putting in. That’s a lotta grinding. But I get the vibe that you’re almost mindlessly doing so. Like you’re spending more time just copying the contours than trying to understand the 3D forms. Those knee studies are heading in a better direction. I’m no anatomy master but here’s some suggestions:
- Render your muscle diagrams out a little more, a lot of those muscles look like ribbons and not 3D shapes
- After you study those muscle diagrams, go to real life photos and try and trace over where you think the muscles you just learned are. Get the big ones you know for sure are there, then do your best to imagine where the rest are.
- Use your imagination and draw the anatomy from different angles. So if you draw something in a front facing view and a profile view from reference, then draw it at 3/4. Then try a lower or higher angle, etc etc.

[Anonymous No.5090163]

>>5090159
Also you might wanna check out some of Bridgman’s stuff. Good luck anon, you got this.

[Anonymous No.5090167]

>>5090133
You're acting like you're the only guy who puts a lot of effort and gets little, at the very least you're getting things out of it, I get nothing which makes me feel even more miserable.

[Anonymous No.5090169]

I want to get married someday. I want someone I can squeeze to death.

[Anonymous No.5090170]

>>5090159
>>5090163
I was already doing more anatomy studies. I'll do more like the knee and try to be less mindless and work on the anatomy more, thank you.
I'll check out bridgeman too.

[Anonymous No.5090175]

>>5090163
Which bridgman book btw?
Constructive anatomy?

[Anonymous No.5090190]

>>5090175
Yeah, constructive anatomy is good. I just started studying from it and I like how he focuses on the most important muscles and how to simplify them instead of getting caught up in every tiny detail like a lot of anatomy books. You can pick up a used copy on Amazon for like 15 bucks, and it should also be in the /ic/ torrent.

[Anonymous No.5090192]

>>5079617
Someone said mean thing about my favourite furry comic, me and my boyfriend are literally shaking, we just cant believe it!!! But we made a thread to be passive aboit it, that's all we know how to do though and we cant stop crying FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK ALL MEN!!!
I cant, I JUST CANT
the meany even called my queen's work, kistch or whatever you spell it,
we will survive this, I'm in my stinky diaper right now uwu
So joke is on that meanie!! Brb about to do some therapeutic "crinkling" if you know what I mean ;)
P.S. Thanks for the gold kind stranger,

[G.Fur.bby No.5090197]

Someone said mean thing about my favourite furry comic, me and my boyfriend are literally shaking, we just cant believe it!!! But we made a thread to be passive aboit it, that's all we know how to do though and we cant stop crying FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK ALL MEN!!!
I cant, I JUST CANT
the meany even called my queen's work, kistch or whatever you spell it,
we will survive this, I'm in my stinky diaper right now uwu
So joke is on that meanie!! Brb about to do some therapeutic "crinkling" if you know what I mean ;)
P.S. Thanks for the gold kind stranger

[Anonymous No.5090206]

How do you guys keep going through the loneliness? I feel like I'm pushing against a brick wall.

[Anonymous No.5090222]

I ask questions in places such as /beg/ and nobody ever answers me. It's super irritating as I'm trying to get answers to things I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.5090228]

>>5090206
find a girl to coom in

[Anonymous No.5090229]

>>5081967
based

[Anonymous No.5090363]

>>5090190
ok thanks

[Anonymous No.5090435]

Every person I talk to in art communities is like 10 years younger than me and acts and thinks so completely different I cannot relate to them at all. People my age who do art just take it as an office job where they draw porn or pet portraits and receive payment. If you talk about passion projects they treat you condescendingly like you're a retard, and of course they're right because nobody seems to care about anything but a few things that are made to sell.
Why is this world so cynical? I'm so tired of being blackpilled.

[Anonymous No.5090466]

>>5090435
You can find actual mature people on IRC.

[Anonymous No.5090476]

>>5090435
everyone can act like teenagers on the internet anon, you can't be jealous they had a financially stable and caring loving family when they grew up as a child which puts them in a huge advantage in life when they grew up, luckily in the end of the day just pray they fall for the HRT meme

[Anonymous No.5090481]

>>5090466
I have never found active art channels on IRC or anywhere but Discord, and on Discord it's either 12 year olds or weirdo fetishists.
>>5090476
What does that have to do with anything

[Anonymous No.5090503]

literally cannot succeed in making a following on any of the normie social media while fags that trace and whatever have em in in big numbers.

should i just give up posting?

[Anonymous No.5090546]

>>5090503
If numbers is what you seek, and if you cannot beat them, why not join them? If you feel deep down you want to attract a following without being a hack then you will do the ethical thing and keep trying.

[Anonymous No.5090572]

>>5090546
This is why I will never put any of my art online. People unironically tell you that if you want to find any kind of audience for your work, no matter how small, you're some kind of narcissist, and if you want to sell even one tiny thing for the satisfaction of finding someone who cares enough to buy your art you're a greedy scumbag who only wants to make art for money. You're supposed to make art for "passion" which means working 1000 times harder than everyone else and posting your work day in day out as a free entertainment service that people can just pick up and scroll through, no community, no rewards, no validation, no money, no nothing. Just cucking yourself for literally nothing but "the joy of making art", as if one made art for no other purpose than making a picture, like saying something with your art is preposterous.
You're basically asked to be autistic who draws 24/7 for the self-serving sake of drawing. It's completely absurd, literally nobody in history managed to produce anything decent on these terms, even just in human terms they had to get their ideas out and they had a reason to go on. Nobody who writes a book wants to keep it in a drawer.

And this is all because consoomers don't want to admit that if you don't care about different things they will just die off. This is all cope to put the blame on the artist, "he quit because he was not passionate, he didn't really love art, so nothing of value was lost", meanwhile the people who thrive are literal mercenaries who trace a porn template and draw the clothes of the latest trending videogame thot on it. Oh yeah those are surely passionate about art and they're not in for the money. People are just so fucking dumb. I'm not even mad that porn is becoming the only way to make a living, it's the hypocrisy that gets on my nerves.

[Anonymous No.5090591]

>tfw slowly gitting gud and starting to notice how much subtle outside factors affect my drawing

Small things like the time of day, noise levels, paper feel, pen tilt, amount of sleep I got, temperature etc can affect me to the point where I can't draw to my full potential and only to the level of skill I was at a couple of years ago. This fucking sucks, I thought it'd be very straightforward but I'm only increasing my top potential and not the baseline.

[Anonymous No.5090625]

>>5090591
Anon, art quality is almost literally random unless you're doing shid like painting over 3D models.

>but I'm only increasing my top potential and not the baseline.
And yes, that's exactly what you're doing. People who never draw a finished piece or who don't spend enough hours will never show what they're really capable of and nor will they improve

Basically, you can consider art to be like a gacha. Becoming /int/ improves your /int/ rates significantly (but a /beg/ could still potentially produce an /int/ piece you know like a monkey typing the complete works of shakespeare) but you can also get /beg/ potentially. And more attempts/time at one drawing means that you could have an improved chance of getting that drawing good due to an increased number of trials.

It's also why pros do thumbnails so much in order to try and eliminate the chance they fuck up. Looking up references beforehand and ref quality also helps a lot.

Finally, if there's one thing you really want to nail like a waifu or a husbando, there's a chance that you get good RNG on a subject matter that you dislike. So if I want a good drawing of my favourite character I will only draw that character until I get something I like out of it because getting good RNG on characters or themes you hate just sucks. It's RNG, more attempts = more chance of rolling something closer to your true top skill level.

As you get better you get more consistent though (but to produce an amazing piece might take a loooong time) so don't get demoralised.

[Anonymous No.5090722]

>>5090572
You felt insulted over nothing, that anon didn't anything of what you're complaining about. He just pointed the obvious: if you want to get big social media numbers quick, do what is popular, which seems to be what the people you're angry about are doing. Otherwise just keep going at your own pace, doing what you like, but in doing that you'll probably see a slow and steady growth instead of a sudden boom as you'd have if you went full pandering to whats popular.

[Anonymous No.5090730]

>>5090722
Yeah I wasn't angry at that anon, he's completely right, if you want to have any kind of following you have to pander, even skill doesn't make a difference past the point where you don't suck.
I was just commenting on that truth, I just chose to say fuck you to people who push this retarded narrative where you are the sole responsible for making "art" and you have to do literally everything out of your own pocket with not even a thank you or a nod of appreciation in return.
Granted I would draw a lot more and have more enthusiasm if I had met more appreciation instead of being ignored completely while shitty coom gets fawned over, or if I found any decency and humanity in art communities, but apparently wishing for any of that makes me "entitled' and an "attention whore".

[Anonymous No.5090737]

>>5084525
>>5090122
>>5090133
I'm glad I'm not as talentless as you. The problem is that you're blind and can't see what you're doing wrong or right, and I don't think any amount of advice is going to fix that. I'm sure you wouldn't even know you're a beginner if people didn't tell you.
Unless you change your approach you won't make much progress.

[Anonymous No.5090836]

>>5090591
>sitting on the left side of couch > not drawing
>sitting on the right side of couch > drawing
The hand rest gets enough in the way to stop me from being comfortable using a pen.
I want a fucking desk.

[Anonymous No.5090941]

>find a comfy set of tutorials of a father teaching his daughter to draw
>draw along, learning things I didn’t think about before
It feels good. I wish I had artistic parents.

[Anonymous No.5090947]

i totally feel like that anon.

every damn time i post shit it gets ignored while traced shit gets tona of likes.

been posting to twitter lately. 6 months in and not even a single person saw my post. only luck i ever had is me drawing softcore coomer art on reddit beacause i wanted to cope for a bit.

its so annoying, since the ones that complain about stuff like attention and payment are usually the entitled ones that get it,while most people never even get their shit noticed.

literally impossible to succeed unless you have repost bot accounts/make shitty "relatable" comics/coom art or beg for followers.

[Anonymous No.5090966]

>>5090947
You gotta be willing to do shit others aren’t doing. When I was a total begshit in 2014 I made video tutorials and I had to shill out the ass to get seen. I would spam Facebook, make a bot Twitter account to mass spam inboxes to check my content, uploading promo videos on every single video service online, pay a bit of cash to have 3rd world girls review my stuff, put up kindle books with backlinks to my shit. In the end people actually paid me and trust me I was dogshit at drawing but for some reason everyone said I was good at explaining concepts.

Nobody is going to find you and propel you to popular status unless you get really lucky to get caught up in some internet meme by accident or retweeted by a celebrity artist. You have to put in the hustle.

[Anonymous No.5091051]

>>5090966
Not him but it's not just the hustle, you have to change your art too so that it fits a demographic, which is absurd because art used to have a decent amount of variety.

[Anonymous No.5091144]

>>5090947
>6 months in and not even a single person saw my post
Check the twitter statistics, many probably saw but didn't bother giving a like.
>literally impossible to succeed unless
Succeed as in what, getting a bunch of likes/followers? Unless your goal so stupidly high number you can achieve that without doing those things you said, if your art has appeal. Also y'know, consistency.

[Anonymous No.5091197]

>>5090206
you only have yourself to blame for your loneliness

[Anonymous No.5091246]

No one ever reposts my fanart. /vg/ generals are like 50% picspam, they regularly post something even lower on the skill level, but I've never ever seen my shit there or on leddit. It even gets a decent amount of likes on twitter, except I don't care about them, I want to be good enough for some pajeet coomer to save my picture and share on an anonymous basket-weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.5091726]

>>5089531
this honestly. all style no substance. its relying too much on its uniqueness to carry the entire thing but then like every cheap parlor trick the novelty wears off fast. its like a trip to portland but in manga

[Anonymous No.5091729]

>>5091197
Shut up retard, I’d beat the fuck out of you

[Anonymous No.5091765]

>>5090206
getting vietnam flashbacks from when i tried to go outside reminds me why loneliness aint that bad

[Anonymous No.5091772]

>>5091729
whats the "grinding loomis heads" of trying to not be lonely?

[Anonymous No.5091782]

>>5091772
practicing free-association exercises to learn how to have conversations

[Anonymous No.5091887]

They gutted DeviantArt somehow.
used to be you would categorize your art, select the medium used and put it in some sort of encompassing feed when you uploaded.
Now it's all been removed(?) and you just get to add a brief desc and some tags (both of which used to exist ALONGSIDE the previous part.)

Maybe I am retarded but now I've no clue how to get similiar reach because I assume people would browse those categories or whatever you'd call it because now I get like a third of the
"xDDSNIwolfyrulfy39493 added your drawing to their favorites" notifications that I used to get.

[Anonymous No.5092058]

>gone in debt
>back to shit dayjob
>nightmares back again
>already rusty, again
I want to cry

[Anonymous No.5092176]

>>5092058
stop spending or don't tell me? you were comfortable enough in your financial future that you choose to be a burden to your family and go to art school?

[Anonymous No.5092643]

>>5092176
Borderline third world borderline communist trashhole country, weird shady factory had me sitting at home for a month because corona, technically there is pseudo pay since you are still working and they can't just take you out for a month and back in without a penny.
Made some bullshit calculation to screw me over, don't even have enough to pay rent.
Orphan so no senpai to leech off of. Really poor neighbooehood with ghetto tier traps to make you lose more money than you earn so leaving or higher education is really damn hard.
I just want to draw until my last breath, when I leave here I will never look back.