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How do you go from this...

>> No.5067040
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5067040

To this?

>> No.5067041
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>>5067040
Actually that’s not a great example
>to THIS?

>> No.5067042
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5067042

Or this?

>> No.5067043
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5067043

And this?

>> No.5067044
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5067044

And this

>> No.5067045
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5067045

Have written this so many times I’m unsure it’s a word

>> No.5067048
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5067048

HOW DO I BECOME A CURVICHAD

>> No.5067054

>>5067045
>>5067044
>>5067043
>>5067042
>>5067041
Give me artist NOWWWWWW

>> No.5067062

>>5067054
Ramonn90 and I forget the chink

>> No.5067066

I used to do this, only attracts other artists, not that good for commission money

>> No.5067085

>>5067066
For real? Do clients find it odd looking or contrived, or just not what they were expecting out of a comm?

...can you share some tips for learning it?

>> No.5067095

>>5067085
Start with loose sketches, few curvilinear lines and get familiar with perspective, you don't need to be perfect about it, after you get the main objects in place, use their own lines as guiding for everything else

>> No.5067099

>>5067085
The problem isn't the clients, it's that the people interested in these are often artists too and not normies and artists think twice before commissioning other artists unless they are swimming in money

>> No.5067100

>>5067095
I’m really struggling with understanding how to rotate things like a box within 5 point perspective... everything I’m drawing is locked to the top/bottom and left/right VPs

>> No.5067105

Redpill me on 7 point perspective

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>> No.5067111
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Ahhh fuck I’m such a smoothbrain, anyone with triple digit IQ wanna explain this to wizardry to me?

>> No.5067126

>>5067085
I think people either don't know or care about perspective. Some people think perspective = technical drawing, which is seen as boring.

>> No.5067128

just eye it bro

>> No.5067133

perspective is a cope. Just draw you orangutans

>> No.5067134

>>5067111
It was done free hand. First add the figure, draw the toilet at correct angle (notice that it's curved slightly) to figure and eyeball all other objects and surrounding. This artist knows enough perspective to be able to stylize it, same as artists who stylize their anatomy once they're confident in their skill level.

>> No.5067146

>>5067044
I drew a toilet picture like this... fuck I should have used this as a ref

>> No.5067290

4 point is curved 2 point.
5 point is curved 1 point
6 point is curved 3 point.

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5067306

what do you call this

>> No.5067319

>>5067039
Thats wrong. Look at the bottom of the middle top left box.
Also most artists who draw in fisheye perspective done use complicated guidelines with vanishing points. They way to do it is draw one thing in that perspective then draw the rest of the scene using the first thing as a point of reference. Its how kim jung gi describes how he does it. Something i personally find helps is if you draw a light circle or round out the corners of the page as a guideline

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>>5067306
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.5067328

>>5067306
I call it the word that's in the bottom right of the pic.

>> No.5067329

>>5067128
Best post itt

>> No.5067834
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5067834

I just mess with the picture in photoshop. drawing on spheres is the kind of thing I know how to do but can't be bothered with, like trying to figure out how furniture looks from a given angle instead of just tracing a 3D model from the store's website

>> No.5068311

>>5067834
This is a huge redpill. Thank you anon. Got any examples of a before/after?

>> No.5068322

>>5067834
so bad

>> No.5068348

1) Have the knowledge on how to draw measured perspective with boring, stiff shapes;
2) Draw an interesting thumbnail thinking mostly about visual appeal;
3) Eyeball everything organically

>>5067146
t. toiletguy

>> No.5069945

i think most people who are good at extreme perspectives freehand are just eyeballing everything. you essentially just make up some rules (every parallel line in this direction should converge at so-and-so points) and just follow them the best you can. The result is so abstract that it's impossible to tell if there's any big mistakes.

>> No.5070293

>>5067290
Are all curvilinears considered fisheye
Or is it only the 5 point distortion?

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OMG GUYS WHY DOES THIS IMAGE HAVE 48 VANISHING POINTS
48-POINT PERSPECTIVE?
I'M GOING KRAZY
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN AAAAAAHHHHHHHH KJG HELP ME AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.5070351

>>5067039
Youre thinking too hard about perspective. Do some loose sketches without worrying about making perspective points and just think of your image as a sphere/mirror ball and see where that gets you.

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>>5070318
vanishing points have to do with parallel lines. if they aren't parallel they have their own sets of vanishing points. i saw this on this board not too long ago and its a fun example. the stairs all share the same horizon line but none of them line up to the same vanishing point

>> No.5071177

>>5070318
WHAT THE FUCK ?!?!?!!?!??!?!!!??!

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>>5070864
If you notice, those stairs don't even share the same horizon line.

>> No.5071871

>>5071562
Ladies and gentlemen, average /ic/ user...

>> No.5071942

>>5070864
wait i dont get it can someone please show the vanishing points of this picture

>> No.5071982

>>5071871
it's true though.

>> No.5071999

>>5071562
It's a spiral staircase. The steps are not rectangular, so you're not finding the correct vanishing points this way.

>> No.5072001

>>5071999
then how did you know that they share the same horizon line?

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5072007

i got some good tips for this the other day in the redline thread.

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>>5072007

>> No.5072012

>>5072001
I'm not the person who posted that image. But any plane shares the same horizon line with any other plane at the same angle. Barring the imperfections of the construction, the steps of a spiral staircase would share the same horizon line as the ground.
I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is that you seem to think those steps are rectangles. Basic logic dictates they are not.

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>>5067039
i find 5pp to be a lot of fun but i always seem to fuck up proportions. pic related for example. this rat is the size of a fucking dog. and when you fuck up you cant just select it and fix it with the scale button because then the perspective will be wrong lol. takes a ton of practice i guess

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>>5072064
i really don't measure shit. i just eyeball it, im sure you can tell. but otherwise its not as much fun. you could probably do a lot better if you use some basic perspetive rules. that scot robertson shit works pretty good for things like this. dongho kim has good info on 5pp also

>> No.5072090

>>5072072
does he have a course or a book? where?

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>>5071562
i think this might be the horizon anon.

>> No.5072759

>>5072263
correct. the stair that is at eye level is not facing forward, its on an angle which is why it doesnt appear parallel to the horizon. that is a hell of a ref

>> No.5072798

>>5067834
I see shit like this and I really question wtf ya'll are doing with your lives.

Can people really not picture objects in curved space without a reference? Real question. I can't be the only one.

>> No.5073232

>>5072759
there's lens distortion too, which confused me. i keep wondering about that door on the left side

>> No.5073346

>>5067306
Is that alke?

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>>5067044

>> No.5073842

>>5071562
That's not how the horizon line works.

>> No.5073846

>>5073346
Doesn't look like alke's work at all.

>> No.5073856

>>5073846
He had some really early stuff that looked like that.

>> No.5073861

Post your spiral staircase

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>>5073856
You mean pic related? His stuff never looked like the one that the anon posted. Check his deviantart, some of his old stuff is still there.

>> No.5073908

>>5072090
dude im not gonna google it for you too.

>> No.5074820

>>5072798
because curves are a bitch to work with when you first start out. but at some point its second nature.

>>5067039
>>5067040
>>5067041
>>5067042
>>5067043
>>5067044
>>5067045
ok, with assistance lines, box out where the thing is going to be, and refine from there.

>> No.5075746

>>5071562
The lines you are using to determine the horizon are not running parallel. The staircase is a spiral, the stairs have a wedge shape.

>> No.5075793

>>5067044
Is she supposed to be taking a massive, hard pointy shit? Cos that's what it looks like