/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5058697]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous thread: >>5051872

[Anonymous No.5058700]

>>5058697
The real Previous thread: >>5055758
LMAO

[Anonymous No.5058704]

>>5058700
lmao. That one 404'd on me.

[Anonymous No.5058712]

>>5058697
How to make it appealing?

[Anonymous No.5058714]

>>5058712
>meme face
don't do that for starters

[Anonymous No.5058716]

>>5058712
Coom face

[Anonymous No.5058726]

>>5058697
Not mine. Last thread got deleted so I took the liberty to repost this.
Crit: You shouldn't do this for organic forms until you know the underlying structure. It would be incredibly difficult for you to visualize that. Even after correctly using perspective. The image attached should indicate in what orientation those box like forms should fit a body. If you want to start simple 3d shapes try proko's robo bean.

[Anonymous No.5058752]

>>5058712

delete it

[Anonymous No.5058775]

>>5058712
why the fuck do people do ahegao face on a character who is not even being fucked? it makes no sense. what's the purpose of that face?

[Anonymous No.5058779]

>>5058712
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.5058793]

>>5058712
the number of crabs shitting on you means that its above /beg/ in all the important categories. be proud of yourself anon!

[Anonymous No.5058799]

>tfw can't understand for the love of god how gesture drawing works

[Anonymous No.5058807]

>>5058799
do you not understand what a gesture is?
do you not understand how to extract the gesture from a photo?
do you run out of time before your gesture is finished?
do your attempts at gesture drawing look too stiff?
what have you been trying so far / how long have you been doing gesture sessions?

if you want help you need to be more specific.

[Anonymous No.5058856]

>>5058793
>t. master crab

[Anonymous No.5058873]

>>5058856
pyw

[Anonymous No.5058876]

>>5058873

[Anonymous No.5058898]

>>5058876
>a beginner that is just starting with loomis
>calling others crabs already
impressive

also
>replying within 21 seconds

[Anonymous No.5058899]

>>5058898
notifications

[Anonymous No.5058902]

>>5058712
>>5058793
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.5058908]

>>5058876
/beg/

[Anonymous No.5058909]

>>5058908
oh shit, am i on the wrong thread?

[Anonymous No.5058911]

>>5058909
Yes, this is /adv/ now. Gtfo fucking /beg/

[Anonymous No.5058926]

Post doodles

[Anonymous No.5058930]

>>5058876
I've seen this posted so many times and it never got any constructive critic

[Anonymous No.5058938]

>>5058712
head to /int/ you're done with /beg/

[Anonymous No.5058940]

>>5058712
stop tracing

[Anonymous No.5058942]

>>5058712
continue tracing and start accepting commissions

[Anonymous No.5058982]

>>5058876
>>5058930
Hope this help.

[Anonymous No.5058986]

>>5058982
Now I can use this to show I'm /adv/ in pyws, thanks

[Anonymous No.5059000]

>Look up how to draw the face
>Get a million loomis head videos that DONT show facial features, just orientation and construction of the head
I hate this stupid fucking faggot loomis. Loomis is the sound my ass makes when I take a fat wet dinky shit in the toilet. Fuck this guy

[Anonymous No.5059016]

>>5058704
Did you use ref ? Try adding some simple shading would help bringing out the forms.

[Anonymous No.5059021]

Talent is real

[Anonymous No.5059028]

>>5059021

[Anonymous No.5059032]

>>5059028
Dont mock me, that piece of shit with the daily heads won, I grinded fundies I SJOULD be better
I did 4 hours against his 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.5059038]

>>5059021
>>5059032
you are right anon. talent IS real. you should give up.

[Anonymous No.5059040]

>>5059032
Hey cunt, you draw faces infinitely better then me and I've been drawing for a month or so. Stop moaning and keep grinding.

[Anonymous No.5059058]

>>5059040
I'm talking about this one anon

[Anonymous No.5059071]

>>5059058
172 days is nearly half a year dude, that kind of progress is completely normal if you study smart. Heck, it's actually kind of slow. Your faces aren't even bad, I don't know why you get so schizo about them. Just keep grinding

[Anonymous No.5059074]

>>5059016
That's from a Vilppu lecture, I just drew along with him.
>shading
Those soft strokes were my first attempts at "shading", lol.
Now I'm experimenting with layers to see I can get a fast workflow, similar to traditional.

[Anonymous No.5059082]

>>5058942
This is commissioned...

[Anonymous No.5059086]

>>5059082
And traced, say it fucking pussy, you won't because you're too afraid your client will find out

[Anonymous No.5059091]

>>5059082
fucking based and GMI pilled

[Anonymous No.5059109]

>>5059000
Too stupid for Loomis. Why live?

[Anonymous No.5059111]

>>5058712
If you keep tracing I will find you and rape you.

[Anonymous No.5059136]

>>5059040
2nd attempt. I still suck

[Anonymous No.5059140]

>>5059040
2nd attempt. Any glaring issues or it more of a "just draw more and youll get better"

[Anonymous No.5059147]

doing the drawabox 250 box challange,this is my 16th page (95 boxes overall)

how badly am I doing?

[Anonymous No.5059179]

>>5059140
breakdown facial features by drawing on top of photos. yeah its tracing but its a good way to build up a visual library and get a better understanding of how a face is connected.

[Anonymous No.5059192]

>>5059000
why don't you just look up how to draw the facial features separately for a start?

[Anonymous No.5059193]

>>5059147
i thought you're supposed to do DaB traditionally?

[Anonymous No.5059196]

>>5059193

I don't rly know desu,I try to refreain from using the undo shortcut and I also use a "felt-tip pen" brush.

[Anonymous No.5059204]

whats the starter pack with the beg wojak bying expensive art equipment

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5059210]

study of iraq

[Anonymous No.5059213]

>>5059140
learn how to measure

[Anonymous No.5059228]

>>5059193

Welp,Its good to know that I was doing them wrong all the time,I really feel like tard. I guess I have to restart from 0.

Wasted all my time on nothing

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5059230]

>>5059210

[Anonymous No.5059253]

>>5059230
BOXXXXXMAN!
Your 'flow guide' is trash.

[Anonymous No.5059256]

>>5058712
use appealing shapes and colors

[Anonymous No.5059258]

>>5059228
anon-kun i am not sure if you are trolling
it is
>drawbox
you are wasting your time no matter if you are doing it traditionally or digitally


instead, take photos of cars, buildings, people, animals ANYTHING and construct boxes around them right on the reference so you have at least a chance to learn anything from such a primitive exercise

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5059269]

>>5059253

T-Thanks...
I agree, just forget it. Doing timed studies now to get better instead of preaching.

[Anonymous No.5059275]

>>5059213
Yeah i cant figure out jaws for the life of me. Heres a superhero head I tried

[Anonymous No.5059277]

>>5059275
Try studying skulls and then putting a face on top of it

[Anonymous No.5059284]

>>5059277
Will try

[Anonymous No.5059296]

>>5059258


I wish I was.Guess I'm just that retarded. I don't really know what should I do(I guess that this makes me an absolute beg then). People recommended me this course(drawabox for fondumentals) so I'm trying to make way through the exercises to my best abilities.

[Anonymous No.5059403]

>>5059296
>>5059258

[Anonymous No.5059415]

>>5059296
I wouldn't sweat it too much. DaB guy says you can do the exercises digitally (he sure as fuck doesn't recommend it), but you won't get any feedback from him and your mileage will potentially vary. He recommends trying exercises traditionally then doing it digitally if you choose. His arguments lean more into drivers being potentially faulty & digital art making one impatient. If his arguments don't convince you, then just keep on doing what you want, but he says you might miss out on things.

[Anonymous No.5059439]

>>5059403
I might have shitty eyes and brain, but do you ever have a hard time distinguishing depth with your shapes?

[Anonymous No.5059457]

>>5059439
if you are talking in general? no
if you mean specifically that horse and car example then yes. if i were doing that exercise for real, i would choose objects that deviate stronger from the horizon, i would set the ref to maybe 20% opacity and give the boxes shading. as it is right now it is very hard to see. nothing wrong with your eyes.

[Anonymous No.5059462]

>>5058799
pyw anon I'll redline it and help you out

[Anonymous No.5059468]

>>5059415

I see,I guess it doesn't hurt trying them out traditionall.

[Anonymous No.5059482]

>>5059277
>>5059284
I think this actually helped

[Anonymous No.5059485]

>>5059482
>took the advice to improve where they lack
>improved
>posted their work
strong gmi vibes keep going

[Anonymous No.5059488]

what

[Anonymous No.5059490]

>>5059488
jogging

[Anonymous No.5059493]

>>5059403

I see, I might try it.

[Anonymous No.5059504]

>>5059277

[Anonymous No.5059505]

This is supposed to become a finished piece done digitally. If I exaggerate the eyebrowns on the dude more, would it look more like they're rivals?

[Anonymous No.5059506]

>>5059504
>>5059482
i forgot to mention, i'm reading Atlas of Human Anatomy from Stephen Rogers Peck and i recommend it to you, anon

[Anonymous No.5059508]

>>5059074
fug. It looks messy now.

[Anonymous No.5059519]

>>5059488
Ew

[Anonymous No.5059541]

>>5059485
>>5059506
Thanks guys. Still need to work on measurements and making it look less creepy but it already looks a lot better then the last 2 heads I tried.

[Anonymous No.5059553]

>>5059541
good luck anon!

[Anonymous No.5059557]

Where can I find a online thingy mick jiggy that I can draw shapes in 3D and rotate them around and stuff?

[Anonymous No.5059583]

>>5059557
vr chat?

[Anonymous No.5059589]

Practice session I did with a friend. Also got started on painting the figures. Any critique?

[Anonymous No.5059612]

>>5059589
not bad just need to work on your proportions in some parts also don't be afraid to draw hands.

[Anonymous No.5059630]

>>5059589
feel your ass cheeks also use naked people

[Anonymous No.5059716]

How do I get brushes to actually look like they're supposed to. Pic related is how the brush is supposed to look, vs how it looks when I use it.

[Anonymous No.5059719]

>>5059716
bigger size

[Anonymous No.5059724]

>>5059719
That's better, but still not really what it's supposed to look like

[Anonymous No.5059726]

>>5059724
post the link to the brush to see if i can get that

[Anonymous No.5059728]

>>5059726
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1702962

[Anonymous No.5059749]

>>5059728
make sure you work on a bigger canvas like 4k+ px

[Anonymous No.5059757]

>>5059749
So that's the trick to making pencil brushes actually look decent? Just massive resolution then downscale after?

[Anonymous No.5059760]

>>5059757
yep, most people work on really high res and downscale for web, always assume their work is down scaled to 1/4 of their original size

[Anonymous No.5059766]

>>5059760
Damn. Thanks anon, appreciate the help.

[Anonymous No.5059810]

>>5059757
>>5059724
you dont have to go to 4k necessarily. im not usedto this brush, but heres using it to draw fairly small at 1.5*1.5. really it's just about your ability to control your lines and maybe the pressure youre using, and you could just toy around with pressure options/the curve if thats the case.

[Anonymous No.5059833]

should i scrap and start over

[Anonymous No.5059845]

Attempted following tutorial but low key idk if this looks correct.

[Anonymous No.5059852]

>>5059845
That's from MikeyMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMegaMega isn't it?

[Anonymous No.5059891]

>>5059852
Isnt that the guy who got caught using blacked porn as a reference on stream?

[Anonymous No.5059901]

Accidentally posted in the wrong thread.

Is there a guide to drawing knees?
These are refferenced but I don't know how to about memorising them.
Also what's the difference between male and female knees?

[Anonymous No.5059922]

>>5059833
looks like a rock to me

[Anonymous No.5059925]

>>5059891
Yep lol

[Anonymous No.5059929]

>>5059891
>>5059925
post it

[Anonymous No.5059933]

>>5059929
I dug through the archives for you

[Anonymous No.5059939]

>>5059933
and this is why i always tell people to always use refs

[Anonymous No.5059945]

>>5059933>>5059891
>>5059852

The dude is also into NTR. He drew Jiraya and Hinata NTR and treated it like it was nothing.

[Anonymous No.5059949]

>>5059945
who gives a fuck?

[Anonymous No.5059950]

>>5059945
I saw your thread about that narutard kek. Of course he'll treat it like it was nothing because he probably doesnt give a shit about canon relationships in naruto of all things

[Anonymous No.5059954]

Can a beginner draw everything freehand with no underlying pencil sketch?

[Anonymous No.5059958]

>>5059954
Yes, as long as you're fine with staying a beginner forever.

[Anonymous No.5059959]

>>5059954
you can try

[Anonymous No.5059961]

>>5059954
yes, just like a 3yo can draw anything they can imagine

[Anonymous No.5059965]

>>5059954
Yup but you'll be holding yourself back from learning because you're not trying to draw the underlying construction of forms. Very experienced artists do that easily because they already went through the beginner steps of learning the basics

[Anonymous No.5059973]

>>5059958
>>5059959
>>5059961
>>5059965
Sooo... I’m guessing I’m not supposed to do that? I’ve read the sticky and done a bit of drawabox and all I’ve learned is to try to draw your lines as confidently as you can with pen until you get good, am I actually supposed to be using a pencil to sketch out what I’m going to draw first? do I use that for exercises like drawing the Picasso upside down? or do I draw freehand for practices and sketch things out when I’m drawing for myself? do I construct gestures with an underlying sketch first and then go over with pen, or do I just draw gestures freehand?

[Anonymous No.5059976]

>>5059973
>dab
There's that name again
You don't construct gestures. You free hand to capture the gesture. Practice constructing to help your understanding of something. Use reference and draw what you see

[Anonymous No.5059978]

>>5059945
>>5059891
i don't see a single problem with this

[Anonymous No.5059980]

>>5059973
depends on the exercise, the picasso is for you to not draw symbols and learn how to observe, drawing with the right side of the brain explains better how to approach that, you use whatever technique you've learned before, if you know nothing then get any book recommended for ultra beg like the one i said and fun w/ a pencil

[Anonymous No.5059981]

as a little /beg/-let that has a dream of being an animator, should i practice some basic anatomy and perspective then jump right in to it?

[Anonymous No.5059984]

>>5059981
construction and gesture too

[Anonymous No.5059985]

>>5059984
oh yeah, forgot about that. thx

[Anonymous No.5059999]

>>5059504
> Useful advice instead of a wall of text
"Clap"

[Anonymous No.5060006]

thoughts on Sycra? because thats the youtuber im learning from.

[Anonymous No.5060010]

>>5060006
if you want efficient learning avoid, otherwise he is fine

[Anonymous No.5060016]

>>5060010
>if you want efficient learning avoid
explain

[Anonymous No.5060020]

>>5060016
he never go thoroughly enough in just one video, you'll be searching for other videos for the same subject

[Anonymous No.5060023]

>>5060020
in that case, got any other recommendations?

[Anonymous No.5060025]

>>5060023
no, i stopped studying from yt

[Anonymous No.5060027]

>>5059833
I think your friend is a FZD fan. Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU&ab_channel=FZDSCHOL
At 21 mins mark

[Anonymous No.5060116]

Last heads for today. Tried to do imagination heads. I believe I understand how the jaw and skull works now, but my eyes feel very symboly drawing. they just suck! I think lips and nose are okay though. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.5060140]

crit pls

[Anonymous No.5060145]

>>5059999
it was also part of my study for today
and nice digits anon!

[Anonymous No.5060147]

rate my blooks

[Anonymous No.5060149]

>>5060140
not bad, the hand should be larger and the eyes should also be a little larger or the eyes should be closer.

[Anonymous No.5060151]

>>5060140

[Anonymous No.5060152]

>>5060147
looks good so far, your nose looks larger then it needs to be but that might be a cartoon style.

[Anonymous No.5060165]

>>5060151

[Anonymous No.5060170]

>>5060151
>>5060165
Bullies

[Anonymous No.5060178]

>>5060145
Oh shit. My first quads.

[Anonymous No.5060185]

>>5060116
Any advice? Should I just grind eyes?

[Anonymous No.5060209]

>>5059111
Please dont do that.

[Anonymous No.5060211]

>>5059256
Ok... show me

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5060223]

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5060268]

エホバの電気コンプレックス
Jehovah's Electric Complex

[Anonymous No.5060311]

>>5060170
I think they're telling you to draw the eyes bigger

[Anonymous No.5060312]

If I'm told my art is decent then that just means to refine my skills right?

[Anonymous No.5060314]

>>5060312
yep.

[Anonymous No.5060319]

>>5060312
you should probably ask the people who call your work "decent" what you need to work on

[Anonymous No.5060322]

>>5060314
Yeah it figures. I was told to go over my fundamentals and look into figure drawing but I'm overwhelmed with all I wanna do. I have Loomis, Keys to Drawing, How to draw comics the marvel way, etc.

Might just me being lazy.

[Anonymous No.5060325]

>>5060319
see >>5060322

[Anonymous No.5060326]

is figure drawing the same as learning anatomy

[Anonymous No.5060343]

>>5060326
you need to learn anatomy to apply to your figure anon

[Anonymous No.5060346]

>>5060343
yeah, but aren't you learning how to draw the figure by learning anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5060372]

>>5060326
Figure Drawing encompasses Anatomy, and other things like Gesture and rendering

[Anonymous No.5060485]

how to paint 'painterly'

[Anonymous No.5060496]

>>5060485
https://www.muddycolors.com/2017/07/10-things-about-edges/

[Anonymous No.5060504]

>>5060485
read "alla prima" by richard schmid. he talks about painting from observation but there is a lot of information that you can extract to apply for painting something from imagination / something that you drew yourself.

alternatively research the following on your own or on youtube etc

brush work
brush (stroke) economy
abstraction

it boils down to painting in a way that looks how you want it to look when you zoom out, but when you zoom in the brush strokes seem to approach an abstract mess.

here are some exercises that i do

paint something in 20 brush strokes - do it again in 15 - then 10 - then 7 - then 5 (or any amount you want)
paint something as fast as possible for example a portrait within 30 minutes, or 20 (its not about speed but about forcing you to ignore the small details, kind of like gesture drawing)
paint something with a blending brush only ( / hard round brush only) while only using 3-4 colors + black and white which you have to mix on your canvas with that brush (im talking digital) (the point is to work around this annoying limitation by understanding and using color more efficiently)

[Anonymous No.5060506]

>doing ctrlpaint videos
>visual measuring with a pencil 20 phone exercise
>angles are off
Are you supposed to freehand the angles? The only trick I can think of is holding the angle of the pencil and using that to draw the angle.
Should I not be worried about getting things exact this early in the game?

[Anonymous No.5060508]

>>5060268
>Bro lsd and shit bruh

[Anonymous No.5060516]

>>5060485
>>5060504
>alternatively research the following on your own or on youtube etc
although i highly recommend you read the book. you should be able to find it on "b-ok" dot organisation

[Anonymous No.5060524]

>>5060506
Yeah, you’re not gonna get the angles. It’s a skill you naturally build with mileage

[Anonymous No.5060540]

Hi, where did you guys learn anatomy from?
How do you know what something looks like from another angle that isn't straight on?

Is there a way to look at it in 3D and rotate it around?

[Anonymous No.5060554]

I don't really sketch on my computer I usually start trad and then scan my drawing because I'm so used to pen/paper. Decided to finally step out of my comfort zone, how bad did I fuck up bros, what the hell is wrong with her nose?

[Anonymous No.5060560]

>>5060540
anatomy for sculptors and courses

[Anonymous No.5060618]

>>5060496
shit how could I forget about edge variation, things i shouldn't forget
>>5060504
>>5060516
will read that book but I'm gonna try your exercises first since I want to deliver what I have in mind within this week or next
much appreciated anons

[Anonymous No.5060637]

Is this sphere constructed properly? I feel like my brain's short-circuited from trying to learn perspective correctly for the first time.

[Anonymous No.5060640]

[Anonymous No.5060659]

>>5058712
you trace a 3d model?

[Anonymous No.5060666]

My bad forgot to resize, here's the full image. I still needed to know if there were any construction issues with the sphere.

[Anonymous No.5060668]

>>5060659
He traced Sakimichan's.

[Anonymous No.5060695]

>>5060666
holy fuck my cone VP lines

[Anonymous No.5060711]

I did most of Drawabox. How do I learn how to draw humans now?

[Anonymous No.5060720]

>>5060711
>wants to draw humans
>draws 250 boxes

Idunno retard. How about doing the opposite of what you want to do. It can't be any worse.

[Anonymous No.5060748]

fuck migraines
haven't been able to draw properly for 2 whole days
painkillers mean the headache is gone but i can't do anything about the sensitivity to light. everything has a like bright static filter over it and is flashing and i hate it

[Anonymous No.5060750]

>>5060748
>>>/vent/

[Anonymous No.5060760]

>>5060659
I paint with all my skill

[Anonymous No.5060763]

>>5059852
>>5059933
He traced lmao

[Anonymous No.5060821]

>>5060711
I decided to start with Proko's videos about drawing the head. After number 8 I realised I misunderstood one of the steps so sketches 9-20 (should) look better.
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5060826]

>>5060821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

This video helped me with learning heads

[Anonymous No.5060841]

>>5058793
I thought this was a Meandraco egg laying scene.

I was then dissapoint.

[Anonymous No.5060879]

Can anyone redline this?

The arms and legs feel a bit off to me

[Anonymous No.5060890]

>>5058697
>Haven't drawn in a day
>Feel like I haven't drawn in forever
This feels like a very nice improvement in mindset, especially when a few months ago I went for days and sometimes week ls of "yeah, I'll totally draw tomorrow"

[Anonymous No.5060923]

>>5060890
>he can go more than 3 hours of not drawing without panic attacks
get a load of this NGMI faggot

[Anonymous No.5060928]

[Anonymous No.5060931]

>>5060879
Did you use ref?

[Anonymous No.5060935]

I tried making one of those abstract paintings you see at IKEA and such as a Christmas gift to my dad.

I probably should have bought him a bottle of scotch or something

[Anonymous No.5060939]

>>5060935
Soul

[Anonymous No.5060941]

>>5060935
im sure your dad will like it, but getting the scotch with it wouldn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.5060956]

>>5059833
>>5059833
>>5059833
my proportions are all fucked guys
i think im approaching this the wrong way
should i draw a messy sketch of the whole picture and then draw the details? that would prevent the proportions from being so off
what about the textures and shadows??

[Anonymous No.5060964]

>>5060928
Nice.

[Anonymous No.5061008]

>>5060923
Oh God, I'm not supposed to sleep? Is this what I get for not reading the sticky?

[Anonymous No.5061013]

>>5061008
you are allowed to sleep but only if you dream about drawing. otherwise thats 30 gestures upon waking up as punishment

[Anonymous No.5061021]

Gonna start grinding eyes today

[Anonymous No.5061025]

I can't even draw a fucking circle. Aaaaaa

[Anonymous No.5061028]

Why do people on this board recommend Keys to Drawing / Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, but then also claim that construction is the best way to draw? Is it because construction is used less on things that aren't the figure?

[Anonymous No.5061032]

>>5061028
you always use construction, unless grid drawing

[Anonymous No.5061033]

>>5061025
No one can

[Anonymous No.5061034]

>>5061028
Those two books are to stop you from drawing symbols. Construction lets you build things from imagination

[Anonymous No.5061046]

>>5058697
How do i make eyes that are not soulless voids and show emotions?

[Anonymous No.5061057]

>>5060879
fingers are to small, her right knee is facing the opposite ane of her leg and her left knee area is too big no to mention that it should be squished by it's own weight on the other knee

[Anonymous No.5061063]

>Someone tells me to draw eyelids along the contours of the eyeball
>It looks good
>all I had to do was think in 3d

[Anonymous No.5061067]

3 minutes each figure, what do you think guys? where is my weakness, all i know is head and neck is hard

[Anonymous No.5061069]

>>5060935
>You refused to become a doctor for this shit?! Get the fuck out of my house !

[Anonymous No.5061072]

>>5061046
I don't know but your eyes are fine. What white color pencil are you using?

[Anonymous No.5061078]

>>5061067
sometimes you slip into symbol drawing / stop thinking about the 3d form (some breasts are most notable on this)
some areas are too ambiguous, dont be afraid to leave construction lines / cross contours in (or use them in the first place)
consider "restating" some lines after the figure is done (would just make them look better)

none of what i said are flaws, your figures will continue to get better the more you draw - so keep doing what you are doing

although since you have a solid first grasp of gesture and form already maybe push forward. pick one or two of those figures along with their refs, make them bigger and draw some basic forms / anatomy on top and give them a very basic shading. spread your practice over all the steps that you would need to go through in order to create your favorite coom art from imagination.

(tip for the basic shading, pretend you are doing a cell shaded look, dont even "shade" the shadows, just draw in the shape of the shadow)

ganbatte anon-kun!

[Anonymous No.5061083]

>>5061072
It's a Faber castel pitt pastel and a conté a paris charcoal mix, weirdly enough the charcoal was more useful for details since it was harder

[Anonymous No.5061097]

Proko vs. me
I should have made the sketch bigger, couldn't erase anything without erasing half the drawing lmfao

[Anonymous No.5061099]

>>5061078
omg i think you are right, i will keep it in mind and try it! thank you ;Dj

[Anonymous No.5061105]

Rate my curriculum for a complete and total /beg/:
Keys to Drawing (to stop symbol drawing) -> Perspective Made Easy (for understanding drawing in 3 dimensions) -> Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2 (for practice in linework and construction for non-human subjects) -> Loomis

[Anonymous No.5061114]

>>5061097

[Anonymous No.5061117]

>>5061105
The Art and Science of Drawing, start with this one.

[Anonymous No.5061127]

I need names of good mangaka artists for loli

[Anonymous No.5061129]

>>5061127
Bubukka , Taikou and sakamata nerimono (doesnt do anymore but has old stuff) are three I like
Whether its "good" I dont know

[Anonymous No.5061133]

>>5060763
Nope he starts drawings from scratch all the time on stream. Hes beyond needing to trace like a loser

[Anonymous No.5061138]

>>5061097
Proportions are off, you made everything longer
Also for the love of god, either use different type of pencil (like 2h for construction lines and 2b for the actual drawing) or focus on learning how to control the pencil, doing one single type of line (read, pressing on the paper like a madman) is one sureway to destruction. You can do one line in multiple soft strokes and get a better result than a single heavy one

[Anonymous No.5061150]

>>5060879
tried fixing the legs

[Anonymous No.5061153]

Anyone have good resources for learning eyes and drawing them in 3D? Im trying to wrap eyelids around the eyeball and it looks better then before but still not as good as I like

[Anonymous No.5061157]

>>5061133
Hes a man who drew so much coom he has ascended past the need to trace and can just morph coom in his hands

[Anonymous No.5061161]

>>5061153

[Anonymous No.5061170]

>>5061161
What is this

[Anonymous No.5061173]

>>5061105
Pretty shit-tier desu. Just start drawing, don’t overthink it like a drawlet.

[Anonymous No.5061175]

>>5061170
bargue plates book, not worth going through, but as a reference book it's quite nice

[Anonymous No.5061199]

>>5061129
>Taikou
Who? Can't find anything with a google search

[Anonymous No.5061205]

I'm watching the Brent Eviston course and having problems with cylinders from observation. Using diagrams, I manage okay imagined cylinders, but I can't manage to find the right shape of the elipses when observing a cylinders, and also showing the exact length of a cylinder, it usually turn out too short.
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.5061210]

>>5061129
Any sfw artists?

[Anonymous No.5061214]

>>5061210
Better off asking the loli general

[Anonymous No.5061235]

>>5061210
>loli
>sfw
>mangaka
takamichi, who does the LO cover art, technically fits, but his sfw lolis aren't really manga.

[Anonymous No.5061240]

>>5061235
why these kids are harassing that pussy?

[Anonymous No.5061254]

I'm retarded, how do I make sure something fits inside a page/frame before I start drawing it? Whenever I copy something I end up going over the edges and the image not fitting, even for something like gesture drawing.

[Anonymous No.5061257]

>>5061254
simple big shapes, light pencil, map the drawing

[Anonymous No.5061258]

>>5061254
practice

[Anonymous No.5061262]

>>5061254
Find the midpoint and start from there

[Anonymous No.5061270]

>>5061205
Just cheat with knowledge. If you're looking straight on it's a line, if you swing it 90 degrees towards you it's a circle, if you swing it 60 degrees towards you it's a it's a 60 degree ellipse and so on.
If you've got a rough idea of what angle the whole cylinder is, and you've got a few ellipses memorized, you can get it into the right ballpark before having to deal with your eyes.

[Anonymous No.5061271]

>>5059021
the only difference I can see between these two drawings is that the person that did the left was more deliberate, and took more careful time to make their lines look decent and not a rushed mess like the one on the right.

Take your time, I think too many people think a sketch is supposed to be fast scribbles and then wonder why it doesn't come out looking that good.

[Anonymous No.5061275]

>>5059140
line weight. The picture looks flat and boring because the lines are mostly all the same and they're messy.

[Anonymous No.5061277]

>>5061254
you're not retarded, that's a skill and it's not entirely obvious.
I measure the height and width of the object with my pencil, memorise the ratio and lightly mark a rectangle with the same proportions on the page.
The midpoint also helps, as the other guy said.

[Anonymous No.5061278]

Just finished Huston’s intermediate portrait course
Can I get a crit?

[Anonymous No.5061281]

>>5061270
what do the degrees refer to?

[Anonymous No.5061284]

>>5061281
Fahrenheit.

[Anonymous No.5061285]

>>5061278

[Anonymous No.5061287]

>>5061284
that's cold, man

[Anonymous No.5061290]

>>5061285
Where's the nasion?

[Anonymous No.5061292]

>>5059508
But the gesture isn't bad per-say. The issue seems to be focus more on varying your line weight. Make tough decisions on what curves to emphasize with darker strokes, and which ones to leave lighter. That really makes all the difference.

[Anonymous No.5061293]

>>5061290
the what

[Anonymous No.5061299]

>>5061278
>>5061285
quit the symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.5061301]

>>5061257
>>5061258
>>5061262
>>5061277
Alright, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.5061308]

>>5061299
how

[Anonymous No.5061319]

>>5059541
Just going through the thread--spend a bit more time analyzing before drawing what you think you see. Like the lips for example, your lips look nothing like the actual shape of the picture. You're still symbol drawing, meaning you're glancing at the image, then drawing what you think it looked like to the best of your ability.

All you need to do is spend a bit more time slowly comparing your curves to what you're drawing.

[Anonymous No.5061327]

>>5061308
instead of drawing what you think an eye ( / nose / mouth / ear / hand / anything ) looks like, you draw what it actually looks like. it is covered in the majority of beginner instruction material. read the sticky or any beginners book of your choice. i recommend kimon nicolaides "natural way to draw". go to "b-ok" dot org and download the pdf

[Anonymous No.5061328]

>>5059589
Looks like you're chicken scratching pretty bad. I know that it's difficult and scary as a /beg/, for me as well, but try and use less lines when drawing the different parts. Chicken scratching is the result of not being confident in how something should look, so you cast a wide net and make a lot of lines to estimate it. This ends up making the entire thing look messy and vague.

Even if the lines look wrong, accept them. It makes it easier to analyze later and see what curves were done incorrectly, and you'll learn faster.

[Anonymous No.5061342]

>>5061327
>instead of drawing what you think an eye
im not, im trying to look as hard as i can, but how do i improve those analystical skills

[Anonymous No.5061352]

>>5061025
here's the secret to drawing circles anon since I see a lot of people have anxiety over thinking they can't even do basic shapes:

draw the circle freehand over and over and over again over the spot where you want one, and slowly start to let your pencil/pen touch the paper. You should be able to see it forming and it's still light enough to correct it at this stage. You're basically sketching a circle, not drawing one in one stroke, because nobody fucking does that until they're a master and have been drawing heads and circles for years. You sketch the circle, and you use it as an estimate. It doesn't have to be perfect.

[Anonymous No.5061374]

>>5061327
>>instead of drawing what you think an eye
>im not, im trying to look as hard as i can, but how do i improve those analystical skills

>>5061327
>it is covered in the majority of beginner instruction material. read the sticky or any beginners book of your choice. i recommend kimon nicolaides "natural way to draw". go to "b-ok" dot org and download the pdf

bro not to be rude but spoon feeding beginners how to fix symbol drawing has been done by dozens of teachers already

you will be turning off your subconscious visual filtering, you will learn how to measure distances and angles by just looking at something, you will grind a lot of practice pieces until your sensitivity to even the tiniest measurements is sharpened, you will learn to deconstruct complex subjects into simple categories (3d form into simple 3d forms, lighting into simplified hierarchies of light/shadow/highlight/deep shadow, color into hue temperature brightness) so your conscious mind has a chance to grasp complex subjects and so on

pick up a book or tutorial and study consciously

[Anonymous No.5061378]

>>5061327
Is "natural way to draw" really the way to go? It's so regimented in a particular style I feel like it isn't really /beg/ tier material. IMO, people should just read Keys to Drawing until they can figure out how to stop symbol drawing, then move on to either Eviston's Art and Science of Drawing or Han's Dynamic Sketching, then dive into figure stuff.

[Anonymous No.5061390]

>>5061374
im not really a strong reader, any video courses that are reccomended?

[Anonymous No.5061393]

>>5061390
fucking zoomers

[Anonymous No.5061395]

>>5061138
Thanks
Here's my second attempt at drawing a face

[Anonymous No.5061399]

>>5061395
Should I go through each of Proko's feature videos and do some practice drawing each part of the face individually before trying to draw a face again?

[Anonymous No.5061401]

>>5061378
lol you obviously have no clue what you're fucking talking about

[Anonymous No.5061402]

>>5061393
some people have difficulty reading

[Anonymous No.5061409]

>>5061390
just punch "symbol drawing" into youtube then and watch a 12 minute watered down non tutorial. or go hunting for paywalled courses that you need to pirate.
i cant recommend any video stuff on this matter since i only read books (on this topic at least).

>>5061402
>some people have difficulty reading
you are reading and writing right now. what you mean is reading consciously and staying focused. in that case a video tutorial / course will only give you the illusion of studying and increase your dopameme levels without actually helping

[Anonymous No.5061414]

>>5061378
>Is "natural way to draw" really the way to go? It's so regimented in a particular style I feel like it isn't really /beg/ tier material.
It is aimed at absolute beginners.

>IMO, people should just read Keys to Drawing until they can figure out how to stop symbol drawing
or do literally the first exercise of the first day of natural way to draw and create their first not-symbol-drawn picture

[Anonymous No.5061416]

>>5061399
No, at this point the issue is symbol drawing, not feature knowledge. If you look at feature knowledge now you'll just memorize what it looked like and draw that instead of learning to draw what you see without your subconscious mind taking over when you put pencil to paper.

Most people end up getting an "Ah-hah!" moment that breaks them out of this. My big advice is definitely take the time to do the exercise of drawing Igor Stravinsky upside down. It will help your mind get adjusted to drawing only based on the eyes and not your head filling in the blanks.

The thing is that this is something difficult for many beginners to understand, because the natural reaction is "But I AM drawing what I see!" because it's not something you do consciously. You think you're drawing what you see but you're not, because your mind is stepping in.

[Anonymous No.5061423]

>>5061416
I.e literally draw with your eyes not your mind

[Anonymous No.5061430]

Was having trouble figuring out what to draw when I just decided to draw this Peach amibo sitting there. I guess it was about 15 minutes. I've been feeling lately that I've been getting better at thinking in 3D and drawing what I see, any advice about how to brainstorm what to practice on next, or sites to help with inspiration?

Also please critique me so I can figure out from others point of view what I should fix as well.

[Anonymous No.5061435]

>>5061430
Reference from my angle.

[Anonymous No.5061437]

>>5061430
>>5061435
download some fucking image resizer app ffs

[Anonymous No.5061444]

>>5061416
I have done Drawing on the right side of the brain and a lot of drawabox, I can draw plants, cars, objects, etc. pretty accurate without symbol drawing.
I'm just completely new to drawing humans.

[Anonymous No.5061449]

>>5061437
Silence, Brazilian

[Anonymous No.5061451]

>>5061430
>>5061435
>>5061449

[Anonymous No.5061453]

Has any absolute beginner who was unable to draw a straight line actually improved or became a great artist from Drawabox or Dynamic Sketching

[Anonymous No.5061464]

>>5061453
the real question is has anyone became a great artist without art school

[Anonymous No.5061484]

>>5061453
>>5061464
Just say you're looking for an excuse to give up and go away

[Anonymous No.5061485]

>>5061105
Not bad. Sounds like you're planning on grinding. Maybe do the Art and Science of Drawing (Eviston) after Keys to Drawing. Also, I've never read it, but I've heard A Natural Way to Draw has a similar "draw what you see" focus as KtD, but is more rigorous. Maybe sub out KtD for that.

[Anonymous No.5061501]

>>5061485
got a download to Art and Science of Drawing

[Anonymous No.5061508]

>>5061453
>>5061464
This is entirely dependent on what your definition of becoming a great artist is. If you mean like the all time greats? Probably slim, since that requires both strict guidance, determination, and years of mileage with a spark of inspiration and creativity to boot.

Most people I assume, aren't learning to draw because they actually want to try and be the next Michelangelo. They're drawing because they find it fun and want to try and reach the level of an artist that made them want to try in the first place. Or they want to draw specific things, whether it's coom art, whether it's a certain aesthetic that speaks to them, or whether they find it relaxing.

If you're not drawing for those reasons, you are absolutely wasting time here on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.5061511]

1 year difference, feel like I'm stagnating. have practiced gestures + linework, nearly everything at the end of 19 had similar poses + faces so that is something of an improvement.
probably need to improve colour + lighting the most, also clothing. any advice/recommended videos?

[Anonymous No.5061520]

>>5061484
There is nothing wrong with taking a scientific approach and asking if certain approaches actually produce results, if they really work they should be able to stand up to scrutiny.

[Anonymous No.5061527]

>>5061485
The progression is kind of weird though. I'd drop either Art and Science or Dynamic Sketching, since they have a lot of overlap in terms of being introduction to linework and construction. I'd say Keys to Drawing -> A Natural Way to Draw -> Art and Science OR Dynamic Sketching -> Perspective Made Easy -> Loomis -> Bridgman is a good path for a beginner who's good enough at self-evaluation to use their time wisely.

[Anonymous No.5061537]

>>5061451
fuck the police

[Anonymous No.5061538]

Hello beg frens
>>5061511
I feel the same away about myself looking back at art from a year ago. I think you shouldn’t worry about coloring right now, if anything you can focus on values. As for the actual drawing part, I think you should try referencing angles and poses you think will be difficult to draw because working outside of your comfort zone can help you learn new things. You should see how other artists draw tomokos face and you can try copying it that way to pick up new tricks
As for studying (I’m gonna shill HIM) you should try Brent Evanston’s figure drawing course to start getting a grasp on the real human body. Then you stylize. Now for heads, I’m starting to draw Asaro heads to learn the planes of the face better so I can step up my anime game. This studying stuff is a new thing for me because over the year I haven’t been trying as hard as I should’ve been to improve

[Anonymous No.5061549]

>>5061537
gmi

[Anonymous No.5061566]

Is the biggest problem with drawabox that it tries to be too nice to beginners and causes them to underestimate the amount of time they should grind and practice each day?

[Anonymous No.5061573]

>>5061538
thanks, looking at other peoples art sounds like a good idea, will also check out those videos. value studies and applying it to heads seems fun

[Anonymous No.5061583]

>>5061511
SOVL

stagnating or regressing over (relatively) short periods isnt unheard of. as long as you set the expectation for yourself to improve you will be fine.

do you do mostly finished pictures? if so just a small number of short, focused sessions of study will make a huge difference.

i personally break things down like this:
gesture - facial expressions - form / anatomy - form / lighting - color - rendering
you could take a picture of yours and try to copy and improve just one of those parts. or take art that you admire, focus on one of these things and copy it for half an hour. then try to understand it and hopefully improve your own pictures next time.

stuff like clothing can be fitted in there too. gesture would be the overall feeling / waving / direction of the clothing, form / anatomy would be the folds, form / lighting would be shading a piece of clothing etc

btw, do you post your stuff somewhere?

[Anonymous No.5061631]

>>5061583
I usually draw bodies from imagination and then pick one of them to continue building on. desu it's probably a lazy way to do things since it's similar to aimless doodling/bodypart puzzle, that way I can listen to music at the same time etc. not a good way to learn new things. occasionally I do quickposes, I google clothing if necessary like with the conquistador.
like both you and the other guy said it would probably be a good idea to copy specific things from other artists and practice that way. will be fun to study values. I post on twitter + sometimes pixiv

[Anonymous No.5061636]

how do I know what I make has soul?

[Anonymous No.5061638]

>>5061636
Doesn't matter.

[Boxman !!Hl5DZnM7v9M No.5061639]

>>5060508

Funny enough when i did LSD i listened to All along the watchtower, thats my LSD song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY

There must be some kind of way outta here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
Business men, they drink my wine
Plowmen dig my earth
None will level on the line
Nobody offered his word
Hey, hey
No reason to get excited
The thief, he kindly spoke
There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke
But, uh, but you and I, we've been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us stop talkin' falsely now
The hour's getting late, hey
Hey
All along the watchtower
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
Barefoot servants, too
Well, uh, outside in the cold distance
A wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl, hey
All along the watchtower

[Anonymous No.5061641]

i'll be makin cartoons

[Anonymous No.5061643]

>>5061636
post your art, then post another art, put a year from before 2015 on top of the crappy art and the other you write as recent, get free soul

[Anonymous No.5061652]

>>5061638
it does
>>5061643
i only started drawing since late october

[Anonymous No.5061654]

>>5061538
it was too long i didn't read but i can't trust you but i'll look at whatever you were talking about

[Anonymous No.5061659]

>>5061652
you're too innocent for this world

[Anonymous No.5061662]

>>5061641
stop symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.5061667]

>>5061659
no

[Anonymous No.5061671]

>>5061652
Nope

[Anonymous No.5061675]

>>5061639
Cringe trip

[Anonymous No.5061690]

I'm super early on in starting out and I took a look at a few things for construction talking about breaking things down into their shapes, including fun with a pencil doing that but I'm not really making the connection here. I've done some of the upside down drawing and taking a picture and trying to just work out the lines best I can but when I see a video or a book say to practice say breaking an animal down to shapes I feel myself thinking "what fucking shapes, I've seen people draw a rectangle or a big fucking oval here and I don't know what it is?"

I'm sorry for the stupidity, but is there a good side by side example that explains and breaks it down real slow for my smooth brain? Everything feels like its skipping over something that It Assumes I already know and I'm not getting from copying images. Am I trying to jump ahead of what I'm supposed to actually be doing here?

[Anonymous No.5061698]

>>5061671
why doesnt it matter?

[Anonymous No.5061701]

>>5061583
>btw, do you post your stuff somewhere?

>>5061631
> I post on twitter + sometimes pixiv

its not like i wanted you to tell me your pen name so i can follow you or anything baka

[Anonymous No.5061704]

>>5061698
You're obsessing over a 4chan meme word. Go fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.5061715]

>>5058697
What is the best way to practice smooth and accurate lines for inking? I've been drawing french curves and straight lines in pencil and trying to trace over them but I feel like there might be something better. I notice that inkers draw slowly compared to people using pencil but is actively trying to draw slower a good idea? It's more accurate but it makes my lines more wiggly.

[Anonymous No.5061716]

>>5061701
it's kurokimoko and thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.5061724]

>>5061704
i am drawing
but i do not know if i have soul
an anon said i didnt last time

[Anonymous No.5061738]

>>5058697
Do I really need to make varied drawings such as these to get good at line-art or does geometric forms suffice (such as attempting to draw a perfect circle or ellipses)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-NArgTCTyc
Is it possible to draw long, perfect straight lines, and perfect circles, and perfect ellipses or should I only grind until I reach "good enough" and accept that is unattainable?
How does line-art sketches look like?
I don't have a clear goal yet ("being able to draw what I need for my software" is too vague), for now I only dislike how my lines and circles always come out deformed.

[Anonymous No.5061747]

Are the shoulders too big? Or maybe the head is too big? Oh and how do I make it less stiff?

[Anonymous No.5061756]

>>5061747
position that you drew her in is stiff anon

[Anonymous No.5061766]

>>5061756
even this??

[Anonymous No.5061808]

>>5061631
how did you learn to draw that from imagination? the proportions and shapes are great

[Anonymous No.5061818]

>>5061738
Do Peter Han’s line, arc, wave and ellipse exercises from Dynamic Sketching every day, 1 page for lines, 1 for arcs, one page for waves, 3 pages for ellipses, they don’t look perfect yet? That is expected, do not visualize success as you drawing perfect lines or ellipses, visualize success as you drawing bad lines and ellipses every day until they slowly improve, and I mean SLOWLY, your 10th page of ellipses might be worst than your first, but your 10,000th page is guaranteed to be better than your 10th.
Get pictures of beautiful rock formations and very old wavy trees, draw them from the reference images you found, try to copy them line for line, draw 10 studies a day, it is best to do 2 hours a day, more is better and if you practice for less than an hour you will probably fail, if you can’t practice this much at first draw as much as you can every day for 2 weeks, try to draw for longer and longer each day until you get to 2 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.5061832]

>>5061818
That should be more than enough, thank you very much anon!

[Anonymous No.5061847]

>>5060116
I think Im getting better
I tried measuring the way barque does with the cross as well as with the pen from that book I forgot the name of and it looks a lot before that what I last did.
Spent more time studying curves too trying to kill symbol drawing.
Any crit or things I should watch out for the next one? Lips are still giving me hell. Even when I think of them as two cylinder like organic forms Its still hard to get 'em right. I might grind them like I did eyes earlier today

[Anonymous No.5061875]

Sketch on one layer with only one opacity brush.
I'd be up for some critics, i think i'm starting to understand the hard brush opacity mixing, but i still have trouble smoothing things out like in Ctrl Paint videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cNvJ1qIclo
I'll try to polish it and smooth things out.

Thanks

[Anonymous No.5061876]

>>5061847

i usually don't outline lips. try to copy indentation between the lips, then add tone around the mouth. remember that the lips aren't flat, you have to consider the way they protrude off the face.

[Anonymous No.5061883]

>>5061818
but what about the bones when do i get to draw bones

[Anonymous No.5061897]

>>5058697
Not the OP but JESUS, Clone it quick d/ic/lets
If you can't clone/import it, use the MEGA APP
https://mega.nz/folder/Uc9mTQgT#2d8UWgGnUvICOUL1x0H2Pg

[Anonymous No.5061903]

>>5061897
kek too big

[Anonymous No.5061914]

>>5061903
Mega will let you keep it for a while. Just import it to new account when you reach time limit.

[Anonymous No.5061924]

I need crit, I have no idea what I'm doing here.

[Anonymous No.5061930]

>>5061897
delete your post before its gone

[Anonymous No.5061959]

looking for feedback about anything you can provide, please don't hold back
nose and forehead are wonk. how do i fix this

[Anonymous No.5062005]

>>5059415
why do draw a box when you can just take a course in perspective
you learn formal construction techniques and build the ability to draw towards a vanishing point, even one off the page

[Anonymous No.5062012]

>>5061876
Whats a good way to learn tone?

[Anonymous No.5062044]

>>5061959
explain what wonk is anon, also the nose bridge seems strong in her

[Anonymous No.5062056]

How the hell do you make trees look good

[Anonymous No.5062072]

he vibin

[Anonymous No.5062096]

>>5061285

[Anonymous No.5062100]

>>5061409
>you are reading and writing right now. what you mean is reading consciously and staying focused. in that case a video tutorial / course will only give you the illusion of studying and increase your dopameme levels without actually helping
if everyone could learn easily from books there would be no need for teachers anon

[Anonymous No.5062119]

>>5061285
>>5062096
Use bigger ref anon.

[Anonymous No.5062129]

[Anonymous No.5062148]

>>5062129
How long have you been drawing for?

[Anonymous No.5062172]

Okay I have absolutely no idea how to do this black and white colouring/toning whatever its called.
Please give me a book or video for photoshop. All the vids I find are for pencils

[Anonymous No.5062258]

tryng some different angles n stuff. unfortunately I've got no pencils where i am so some shitty red ballponts had to do.

[Anonymous No.5062262]

am I applying loomis correctly?

[Anonymous No.5062291]

>>5062262
if you want an easier route i suggest hitokaku

[Anonymous No.5062306]

Up to the head and neck lesson in the course I've been following which is close to the end, I think all that's left is some light and shadow. Today's lesson I feel reslly helped me understand how to draw the head more comfortably at more angles. Now I need to keep practicing to really get a grasp on it

[Anonymous No.5062309]

Some flubs

[Anonymous No.5062316]

honestly surprised i'm more excited to grind out more perspective than these observation breakdowns from the abs beg. CGMA course

[Anonymous No.5062332]

NEW THREAD!

>>5062330

NEW THREAD!

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NEW THREAD!

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[Anonymous No.5062483]

>>5058697

Got 2 sketches here. I know the Santa sketch is a bit skewed to one side and the little girl only has 4 toes.

The girl I drew is my friends daughter and I drew from a pose she did. The Santa was sketched from imagination.

Just for a bit of context, I started and work in 3d art but wanted to go back and learn traditional drawing to try and better my overall understanding of fundamentals and art in general.

What's are your critiques?

[Anonymous No.5062960]

>>5058712
Instead of using black for your outline, try using a deep red or purple to make it more appealing.

[Anonymous No.5063007]

>>5059505
>If I exaggerate the eyebrowns on the dude more, would it look more like they're rivals?
what? I don't see the connection

also the dude front face is 3/4 view and the side of the face is on side view

[Anonymous No.5063014]

>>5059852
no it is MikeyIhateFanServiceMegaButAlsoDrawPornMega

[Anonymous No.5063820]

Help ,were did i mess up with the colouring ?