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What hapoened to it?
Did Brian finally leave??
Its our chance guys post your new work here!

>> No.5057616 [DELETED] 

>>5057600
Brian has been mocked relentlessly in several different threads over the past week or so, so he's probably licking his wounds and crying to mommy.

>> No.5057618
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>>5057616
Yup

>> No.5057619

>>5057616
I only come here once or twice a week, so didnt witnessed that, but good. Let him be

>> No.5057621

>>5057618
Nice self portrait, finally you get likeness in a painting

>> No.5057631 [DELETED] 

>>5057618
I said "licking his wounds and crying to mommy" not "crying and licking his mommy's wound".

>> No.5057640

>>5057618
Brian I wish you just learned some more colour harmonies to add to your coffee stain skin, where is the blue reflected off the sheets? Some yellows and the rest... anyway nice job I envy you really cause you're trying. Do you make decent dollars off these? Do you still have to wagecuck? -your biggest fan

>> No.5057654 [DELETED] 

>>5057640
>I envy you really cause you're trying
Then just try? I don't understand the issue here.

>Do you make decent dollars off these?
He doesn't, but he likes to pretend he does.

>Do you still have to wagecuck?
He would if he actually had to support himself. He lives with his parents and they pay for everything.

>> No.5057668

>>5057654
Im tryna get gud before I try to sell paintings I just dabble in acrylics. Shit if i could stay with my parents expense free for a few years id jump on it, thats money i can invest for long term. Also i bet he could make more, if he doesnt already, selling digital copies of each painting

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>>5057640
>where is the blue reflected off the sheets? Some yellows and the rest
I'm just lazy sometimes. That means mixing another color and sometimes I just don't want to do it. They all go up for auction anyways, so if that would've pushed it up $20-$30 that's what I get for being lazy. C'est la vie.

And I make okay money. Christmas is a slow time for me, people generally buy my paintings for themselves and not for other people, they don't make great gifts since they can be a little left field, risky to give to someone else.

about $3.5k a month though gross sales. $6k on a busy month, $2.5k on a slow month, projected to make about $50k a year on art but I really have to hustle to paint and sell that much, the workload is stupid right now since I'm just starting out selling. Had I tried to sell any earlier than now I'd have been overwhelmed, but I'm saving some good money, hopefully enough to buy my own small house by 30 :D

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>>5057631
FUCKING KEK

>> No.5057816 [DELETED] 

>>5057799
>>5057618
Kill yourself.

>> No.5058003

>>5057616
no it was mostly digifags who have no argument so they just accuse the tradchads of being brian.

>> No.5058031 [DELETED] 

>>5058003
Cope harder.

>> No.5058485

>>5057799
Do you just sell on ebay? Or is there a better place to sell? Do you do anything to promote your art sales?

>> No.5058598

>>5057799
Yeah no way

>> No.5058602

>>5057799
>shading looks like actual shit

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>>5058598
why don't you believe me :(

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>>5059141
oops censored version

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my 56 year old dad drew this. he's been a working artist since he was 20, though it has never been his full time income. critique?

>> No.5059243

>>5057631
ngl I'd lick his mommy's wound

>> No.5059257

>>5059183
Getting to that skill level in redrawing a portrait from an image doesn't take long, you can't really judge the artistic value of something that is barely art.

It looks good but it isn't art in my opinion and this type of copying doesn't require much skill.

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>>5059183
likeness to the subject is almost nonexistent, perhaps too much measurement done and not enough freehanded. Measurements give amateur artists confidence that they've established a good guideline to work from, but odds are the measurements aren't right either because of shaky hands, bad observation, etc. Best to avoid them altogether before foundational observational skills are attained.

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5059358

I think i am getting pretty okay at drawing portraits from photos, but it feels a bit cheap or like I am cheating myself.

What is whatever skill I have worth if I can’t apply it and draw as well when working from life?

Just copying from a photo is also starting to feel a bit boring and predictable, like I am just following a set formula and I know exactly where it is going to end when I start a drawing. There is not a lot of excitement in that.

In pic related I tried to do some weird hatching thing where I go beyond/across what I am actually shading so that it runs out onto other parts of the face, - just to inject some excitement into the process, I guess. But I think I still ended up sticking to closely with what I am comfortable with and with the idea that I should end up with a “pretty” drawing.

I like the idea of having very chaotic shading/hatching, and then still having a face appear in that chaos somehow, pulling the elements of the face out with a sparingly, considered line and tone here and there. But I think I need to push myself more out of my comfort zone. Maybe take up a medium I haven’t tried before?

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>>5059358
For instance I love stuff like this, where you can see the raw texture of the material, yet the portrait still appears in that

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>>5059369
Or this. I believe both of those were drawn from life, which is really impressive I think

>> No.5059379

>>5059358
try ink and a brush, you'll never cover as much ground as you want with a pencil, just takes too fucking long drawing every line.

>> No.5059385

>>5059369
>>5059376
you can see the "raw texture" of the material because the material has a raw texture. It's rougher paper. Simple as that. You're using really smooth paper so everything takes forever, the second one looks like it could've even been done with graphite dust and a brush in spots, not just a pencil.

But yeah just get really rough paper if that's what you want.

>> No.5059555

>>5057618
>>5057799
>>5059351
Brain's technical skill is improving, but God please paint something else.

>> No.5059568

>>5059143
WHY did you stain her buttcrack with tone, it looks like poop. Is this what you're into?

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painting

>> No.5059632
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>>5059555
>God please paint something else.
I took the coompill

>> No.5059650

>>5059632
you shouldn't sell your paintings for 15 dollars. Put more effort in each one and paint more family-friendly subject matter

>> No.5059705

>>5059632
Those shit prices.
Can't wait to see your next thread crying about getting burnt out.

>> No.5059759

>>5059376
looks kinda like elon musk

>> No.5059840

>>5057631


Goddamn it anon you made me spit out my drink

>> No.5059868 [DELETED] 

>>5059632
>"I could get a job and sit around waiting for paintings to sell, and easily make $100,000 a year"
>eBay auction is under the price of the materials with 2 hrs left

>> No.5059873

>>5059632
its your biggest fan again and I wanna say I got really excited looking at that screen thinking that can be me soon, I'm buying myself oils for Christmas and giving this a shot, even if they only sell for £10 each thats money I've made off my own back without my boss
I wish you didn't get so much hate brian but that's what you get for actually pyw and showing you can improve and gradually make it. that's it, just wanted to say thank you for inspiring me today

>> No.5059876

>>5059868
>>eBay auction is under the price of the materials with 2 hrs left
those canvases are 8"x10" and cost $10 for 10 of them. So cost of materials on each of those paintings is about $2, and they're paying for shipping. But keep crabbing

>> No.5059878 [DELETED] 

>>5059876
Oh, you're shipping blank canvases, Brian?

>> No.5059883

>>5059873
unironically want to do the same but can't help but imagine my family finding out. even if I act all cool like 'who cares, sex sells" i still feel so self conscious. fuck.

>> No.5059886

How do i get good with ink? Any advice? I struggle a lot with shading, things just look hairy.

>> No.5059888 [DELETED] 

>>5059873
>its your biggest fan again
I can't decide which is more pathetic: samefagging or telling the truth about this.

>> No.5059900

>>5059888
more of an exaggeration on the fact he doesn't seem to get much positive replies fren

>> No.5059928

>>5059873
>you can improve and gradually make it
absolutely! that's my main message to people here is that you don't have to be famous to make a living as an artist, it can be like any other job!

>>5059883
My family's not the proudest of the nudes, but I paint enough landscapes and still lifes that it balances out. They understand it's a good way to make money.

>> No.5059943 [DELETED] 

>>5059900
He doesn't get positive replies because he's an egotistical faggot. The cordial act he's putting on now is only because you're praising him.

>> No.5060007

>>5059886
hard to give advice when there is no example of work or what you want your works to look like. what i find helpful though is if there is a line or hatch lines i dont like, i do it over and over until i get it right consistently.

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A gift for a friend of their doggo. I need to fill in the background first before I do more work on the dog. I've never really used graphite like this, jesus it's a lot of work.

>> No.5060550

>>5059878

If he did then people would at least get their money's worth.

>> No.5060565
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posting one of my pencil drawings, any advice on getting a clearer photo of these things?

>>5060546
keep at it man, that's a good doggo

>> No.5060633

>>5060546
How Long does it take you to make a thing like this?

>> No.5060839

>>5060546
that looks dirty to touch, how will you give it to him

>> No.5060846

>>5060565
>any advice on getting a clearer photo of these things?
photoshop... you can crop it and go into Adjustments and more or less make it look exactly like your drawing

>> No.5060850 [DELETED] 

>>5060565
>>5060846
A scanner or a tripod setup are preferable too.

>> No.5060852

>>5060565
>>5060850
also try to take photos in natural light, or at the very least with just one light source. Overhead lighting with multiple bulbs makes photos look crappy because there's a million shadows being cast, but it looks like you took a photo in good lighting.

>> No.5060864

>>5060565
place a pure white object in the shot so you can use that as reference for color correct using the color correct tool if your program has it.

>> No.5060885

>>5059876
I sell 6x8 inches for 120 bucks, plus shipping.
You're a numpty.

>> No.5060887

>>5060885
How long does one take?

>> No.5060895

>>5060887
Overall, 90 mins approx. Sometimes an hour.

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>>5060895
this one took me 15 minutes... if it sells for $50 I make 100% more money than you :D

>> No.5060908

>>5060897
Yeah, except mine is not shit. And that's just the small sizes, you idiot. I sell nudes through another format and that size I charge 200+.
You smell of desperation.

>> No.5060936

>>5060908
>You smell of desperation.
you sure that's not a backdraft?

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Should I even continue this, it's taken the life out of me...

>> No.5060950

>>5060948
end it and end you life, furfag

>> No.5060955

>>5060948
"Remember that the academic artists of the nineteenth century whom you are learning to emulate in this course thought that finish denoted professionalism, that is was not uncommon for an artist to spend months or even years to complete a work"
Keep going bro. It's a cool painting.

>> No.5060962

>>5060955
This approach is good when you really know what you're doing, when you're starting out do it in small steps first and gradually build up to more complex things. While copying a painting you can only learn things up to a certain extent anyway.

>> No.5061024

>>5060936
I'm not the one so disliked that people would rather go without a trad thread, in the vain hope of avoiding your eye sick.

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>>5061024
okay

>> No.5061038 [DELETED] 

>>5060948
Keep going, but if you're feeling drained, work on something else in the mean time.
It's best to have multiple WIPs at once.

>> No.5061058

>tfw not making 50k from pussy paintings
I don't even doubt it, academic and renaissance masters made plenty of coom art

>> No.5061089

>>5061038
>It's best to have multiple WIPs at once.
Work on one thing until you finish it, or you won't finish anything in a long time. Idiot.

>> No.5061102 [DELETED] 

>>5061089
That's a great way to get burnt out, stagnate, and have a low output.

>> No.5061106

>>5061058
Yes, but they made great paintings, not playdoh blobs. Such delusion.

>> No.5061113

>>5059358
Post the courses/books you follow.

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>>5061058
No shit.

>> No.5061120

>>5061118
that's not pornographic you idiot

>> No.5061193

>>5061120
you weren't there man

>> No.5061288

>>5061106
tbf they probably also had more spending power than an entry level manufacturing associate

>> No.5061324

>>5060565

Thanks anon, I’ll keep chugging. I really like your piece too, your lines are great, very pleasing to look at with all the differing lineweights and the areas of tone do a lot for interest too, would love to see more.

>>5060633

I think I’ve worked about three hours on this now, that includes the drawing and redrawing bits that seemed a little off in proportion. The majority of time was spent on filling the background though.

>>5060839

I’m not sure what that means? The picture itself is tinged yellow because I took it at night by bad lamp light. If you mean that it might smudge, it’s graphite, not charcoal, so it doesn’t smudge as easily and it’s on cotton rag paper which can take a lot of pigment before its surface integrity gets fucked up. I do use a piece of printer paper to rest my hand on so my skin’s oils don’t mess up the paper and to prevent any smudging. When it’s done I might spray it with fixative, though it should be okay either way since it will be framed behind glass...

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painted a small landcape

>> No.5061341

>>5061334

Nice turd, must eat a lot of fiber

>> No.5061418

>>5057600
When doing portraits, is it best to work from life or are photos really fine? What's a good mirror for a self portrait?

>> No.5061428

>>5061418
>What's a good mirror for a self portrait?
make-up mirrors that stand up on their own work well. Work from life if you can, not a necessity though.

>> No.5061439

>>5061418
from life is always best, but sometimes it's just not possible

>> No.5061441

>>5061428
Yeah I'm taking a class and was told photos don't capture everything and that self portraits are fine. Just not sure if that's all I wanna do. Don't have a lot of family available near me either.

>> No.5061459

>>5061441
You know what really helped me early on was drawing my hands repeatedly. Hands are very difficult, moreso than faces, and you'll learn much more about anatomy and form and contours from your hands. I drew my hands for about 5 months straight before I felt I could move on to another subject. It's boring as fuck and incredibly frustrating but it gives a lot of hardcore experience really quickly.

>> No.5061463

>>5059601
thats nice but is that one shoe still flying in the air?

>> No.5061472

>>5061459
I could see that. I've been drawing hands a lot recently. I could try drawing my own. Keys to Drawing has an exercise on drawing your own hand.

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5061568

I drew a beetle. Do you guys have any feedback? I find I have some trouble controlling value. Also, big surfaces like the rear shell, should I aspire to shade like I did, ie with long unbroken strokes. Or maybe shorter strokes, perhaps perpendicular the the shell? Any advice or feedback is appreciated.

>> No.5061627

>>5059632
arent you that nigger who got offered to do a painting of some dudes'gf and took the coompill when he realized painting that kinda shits actually pays ??

>> No.5061648

>>5061627
i dont think so, I just gradually gave up and the paintings got more explicit because I didn't need to "practice" really anymore... practice isn't going to make me any better, I'm capable of what I'm capable of, so now I just paint what is going to sell.

>> No.5061658

>>5061648
Ah well, if it pleases you.

Is your business goin alright ?

>> No.5061718

>>5061658
It’s going alright I’m trying to think of new ways to attract buyers without alienating others, I’ll have to see how the auction strategy pans out, if I can make $2k from auctions every month and still make money on Buy it Now paintings that’s more money than i’d Make otherwise, just means a bit more repetitive workload. I’m still young I can handle doing 3-5 small paintings a day

>> No.5061752

>>5061718

>I’m trying to think of new ways to attract buyers without alienating others

You could try developing some semblance of skill at painting

>> No.5061867 [DELETED] 

>>5061648
>practice isn't going to make me any better

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>>5060846
>>5060850
>>5060852
>>5060864
thanks anons, I will give these suggestions a try

>>5061324
appreciate it my dued, here's another drawing

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>>5060846
>>5060850
>>5060852
>>5060864
thanks for the suggestions anons, will give these a try

>>5061324
glad you enjoyed it, here's another drawing

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>>5059632
i dont give a fuck what you guys say lol, my phone blowing up with new bids is super fun even when it just goes up a dollar. Y'all ( you all) are some haters

>> No.5063110 [DELETED] 

>>5063035
Brian, this is a really pathetic thing to be bragging about.

>> No.5063131

>>5063035
>Y'all ( you all)
you're killing me here Brian

>> No.5063168

>>5061568
Anyone?

>> No.5063176

>>5063035

Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower lol

>> No.5063177

>>5063168
I think it might be easier to show the form of the body if you use lines going across it instead. I'd suggest drawing the exact same thing next to the one you have, but using lines going the other direction, and trying out shorter broken lines and see which works best.
Also, try to use grids and basic building blocs to get the perspective right.

>> No.5063198

>>5063177
Thanks! Sounds like a good idea!

>> No.5063292

>>5063176
Broke my cardinal rule and replied to the troll before. I must do better.

>> No.5063293

Why does Brian get shit on?

>> No.5063306

>>5063293
he phw and is having success. it's textbook crab mentality to then snap at every flaw and try to bring him down
SOAR CUMFARTI, SOAR

>> No.5063308

>>5063306
Begone cumfarti

>> No.5063312

>>5063306
This is why I fucking hate /ic/. Time to leave this shithole for another 4 months then.

>> No.5063317

>>5063312
anonymity works for some things but definitely not getting viable crits from others. hope you find a solid community fren, it's essential for your growth

>> No.5063430 [DELETED] 

>>5063293
Because he's an egotistical faggot, ignores critique, spams his lazy doodles all over the board, samefags like crazy, shitposts all fucking day, lies constantly, and is just generally obnoxious.
As an added bonus, his art is ugly as fuck.

Basically, think of any detestable trait an /ic/ poster could have, and that's him.

>> No.5063486

>>5059358
Have you tried oil painting? You could try something like what Jenny Saville does. A bit more controlled chaos, but experimenting with colors can get you out of your routine.

>> No.5063582

>>5063317

I got plenty of fine crits on here. I'm not a self-fellating asshole though, that certainly helps.

>> No.5065764

In pen and ink how do you communicate colour? I have light and dark down, white and black but how do I shade and render shades of grey? Do I apply an even bunch of contour hatching and hatch on top of that? Maybe it's a stupid question but I'm struggling with it. What marks are most appropriate for covering large areas while also communicate form? Parallel hatching just flattens everything.

>> No.5065774

>>5065764
>What marks are most appropriate for covering large areas while also communicate form?
hatching that follows the form. This is difficult to do from photos if you don't have experience working from life (I'm assuming you're working from photos or imagination).

>> No.5065806

>>5065774

It'a not that difficult, just visualize its basic 3d form.

>> No.5065808

>>5065806
>just visualize its basic 3d form.
which you can only do by drawing from life enough...

>> No.5065858 [DELETED] 

>>5065808
That's not even close to correct.
Life drawing is useful, but it isn't the only way to break things down into simple forms.

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this thread always dies as soon as the schizos decide they've pointlessly argued with me enough

>> No.5066113 [DELETED] 

>GIVE ME ATTENTION NOW

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>>5066113
okay

>> No.5066372

>>5066048

These threads die because you shit them up

>> No.5066392

>>5066293
das a big vagina I'll give you $30
do you think the people that buy these have ever fucked a hole in them? I would

>> No.5066394 [DELETED] 

>>5066392
look up "nude painting" on ebay, it's towards the top of the list you can bid on it if you want

>> No.5066398

>>5066392
you could coomission me to paint you your very own big vagina

>> No.5066442

>>5066372
Exactly.
Then the samefagging himself to make it look like people like his work. Grim.

>> No.5066448

>>5066442
>Then the samefagging himself to make it look like people like his work
just looks like a bunch of people calling him faggot. Not really detecting the samefag

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Do sketches like this count. It's all i have the motivation for these days

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>>5066464
looks good

>> No.5066693

>>5066565
Thanks. I like this but that hand looks a bit weird, too big maybe? It's a difficult perspective to get right

>> No.5066729

How do you decide between pen and ink or pencil?

>> No.5066736 [DELETED] 

>>5066729
Whatever you feel like using.

>> No.5067304

>>5066448

Lurk moar

>> No.5067330

>>5066729

Do you need someone to hold your hand taking a shit too?

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Self portrait from today

>> No.5067378

>>5067373
Whoops thought I was posting in the drawthread

>> No.5067618

are there any painting exercises outside of doing value scales that will help you get better with the medium? trying gouache rn and its hard

>> No.5067787

>>5067618
yeah, it's called painting from life/photos instead of doing some sterile exercises as if you're scared of painting for real
with gouache you can lay paint on top of paint, so you can work on something for a long time if you want, so stop judging your painting when you're not even finished, just keep going until you're satisfied.

>> No.5067791

>>5067787

Anon, gouache reactivates when wetted. You can't layer it like oil paint, it will become a mess. Gouache is most suited to a tiling way of working.

>> No.5067812

>>5067791
so don't overly wet it when you go over old paint? and this reactivation can go in your favor, as if you make a mistake and go too far in some place, you can just wet the mistake and smooth it over
yeah, a complete change in color is a very delicate balance, but if you just want to correct mistakes, change how light/dark/saturated and so on something is you can do it
especially changing the shape of something is easy, and you can even pick up old paint and remove it up to a point

>> No.5067905 [DELETED] 

Can /trad/ anons help me find a painting?
Half naked dude surrounded by gentlemen admiring his physic.
Picrel >>50678585

>> No.5067907

Can /trad/ anons help me find a painting?
Half naked dude surrounded by gentlemen admiring his physic.
Picrel >>5067858

>> No.5067935

>>5067787
asking mostly because i've occasionally heard about people who were learning painting in artschools had to do swatches over and over again but it really helped them. i dont know what the exercise is called or really how to go about doing it. do you just create a 10 step scale with different colors? do combine colors?

>> No.5067997
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had a canvas i stretched lying around, finally decided to paint on it

>> No.5068061
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>>5067997
i really like this square brush I have right now

>> No.5068099

>>5068061
HNNNGG!!

>> No.5068116

My confession is that I actually like Brian’s stuff. I just wish you’d experiment a little more with color. I bet some vibrant tones and a bit of gold leaf would do wonders. The gallery near my work is always selling titties: the painting and they’re weirdly mesmerizing works.

>> No.5068290

>>5060565
Dude I'd buy that, that's fuckin' sick.

>> No.5069897

Bump

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>>5069897
dead thread, but here's a vagina

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>>5070635
this was loosely based on this drawing i did, but the perspective got fucky once I tried to do it in paint

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Fellas, am I doing this acrylics thing right?

>> No.5070672

>>5070659
>dark to light?
yes, but that's more of a concept for oil painting since you work with it as it's wet.

Dark to light in acrylics is more about blocking in the larger shape of the object, then carving out the outline and adding layers of lighter colors, all the way to the small details.

Acrylics when done well are kind of like working with clay, you start with a big shape and carve and build it into the refined image.

>> No.5070693

>>5057616
He's been doing this for a while. He's probably on a drunk/drug bender, he'll be back when he sobers up, like the cockroach he is.

>> No.5070694

>>5070672
Not that guy, but I'm curious about acrylics. How do they work, do you have to mix colors every 15 minutes since the paint dries? Seems like a massive pain.

>> No.5070699

>>5070672
yeah, that does sound like what I am doing
But what am I doing wrong?
>>5070694
you can keep your paint wet with water, spraying some water over your palette is enough to keep it from drying, at least that has been my case

>> No.5070700

>>5070693
>He's probably on a drunk/drug bender
i don't drink or do drugs
>>5070694
99% of all painting is mixing colors unforunately

>> No.5071744

Would post in your threads if you didnt shit them up with your disgusting smut brian. Im sure other anons feel the same.

>> No.5071757

>>5059358
Don't go for realism please, if your art looks the same as a photo then you failed

>> No.5071820

>>5071744
It's quite a skill to make porn look soulless and disgusting

>> No.5072196

>>5059358
Man, I think this looks super nice

>> No.5072199

>>5066464
I really like this, the boobs look very formy and soft

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>>5057618
Dang

>> No.5072428

>>5059369
yeah the rough paper actually makes it easier, it's like slapping a noise filter over your image - hides all the smaller imperfections

>> No.5072431

>>5060565
saved
cool shit

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>>5068290
>>5072431
thanks, ill keep posting then

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5074576

Give me some feedback please

>> No.5074662

Brian I was looking at the replies to a tweet by US Senator Marsha Blackburn today and stumbled across you arguing with teenagers. Very surreal to come across you outside of this board and by complete happenstance.

>> No.5075565

Everybody post your palettes:
Ultramarine
Pthalo Green/Viridian Hue
Cadmium Yellow
Indian Yellow
Yellow Ochre
Indian Red
Alizarin Crimson Permanent (Gamblin)
Burnt Umber
Titanium White

>> No.5075815

>>5075565
Depends what I'm painting.

>> No.5075837

>>5075565
basic:
lead white
yellow ochre
red earth
umber
bone black

ultramarine too expensive, and i'll only use genuine.

>> No.5075986

>>5075837
I prefer synthetic. It seems silly to only limit yourself to natural lapis ultramarine. You can mix the natural hue from the synthetic hue.

>> No.5076022

>>5061118
is this good art? i get that the composition is good, but isnt the anatomy shit? look at her neck. And her left arm and forearm. Did the artist make these anatomical fuckups on purpose? if yes, why? so weird.

>> No.5076136

>>5076022
Well, the shoulders are pretty slopey too. If you look at his drawings, the anatomy is a bit odd, with extra long arms.
>>5075565
>>5075815
Now that I have time, I can bore everyone with mine. Fast drying white, yellow ochre, cad yellows, cad reds, carmine for a replacement for AC, French Ultra blue usually, cobalt blue sometimes. Cobalt teal with needed in still lives. Sap green if I need saturated green in a still life and I feel lazy. Ivory black (sometimes fast drying), umbers and burnt sienna.
I go from a Zorn-ish pallet for flesh, through to more colours, even adding magenta for flowers in a still life. So there is no one actual palette. I put out what I need.
So that was my blog post.

>> No.5076161

>>5076022
>is this good art?
lol
>isnt the anatomy shit?
oh yes, if it only was realistic... oh wait, it would be absolute shit then
perhaps there are more important things than anatomy, perhaps correct anatomy has nothing to do with art at all

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>>5075565
Red Ochre
Yellow Ochre
Naples Yellow
Cadmium Lemon
Vermillion
Ultramarine Blue
Cobalt Teal
Prussian Blue
Mars Black
Titanium White

>> No.5076242

>>5076238
sometimes Emerald Green and Viridian if I feel spicy

>> No.5076338

>>5076238
Rubbish, you're always carking on about using magenta.

>> No.5076349
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>>5076338
Magenta is good if you have Cadmium yellow but I’m not really using that lately. Magenta is also funny if you want to paint really pink nipples, and you get good ground colors with it but red ochre is good for me right now

>> No.5077090
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5077090

Pen and ink dotwork
Still 20% completed

>> No.5077098

what kind of psycho buys an oil painting of a pussy

>> No.5077101

>>5067791
>You can't layer it like oil paint, it will become a mess. Gouache is most suited to a tiling way of working.
Not true
The thing with gouche is you need to lay each subsequent layer with mor pigment/less water

Basically go from watwrcolor/transparent darks to complete opaque highlights

>> No.5077184

>>5075986
people appreciate the genuine article. patrons and buyers who appreciate trad style enough to buy them will also be pleased to know they are made with /trad/ materials, not only because of the connection with history but also because being expensive shows the dedication and sacrifice to the craft even more. you probably cant tell the difference between fake or real pearls, but people still value real pearls more.

>> No.5077576
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Last thing I did trad, sans the letters which were digital.

>> No.5077647
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5077647

Nearing completion on this. There are little things that annoy me but that's usually the case when I work longer on something.

>> No.5077684

>>5077184
I guess, but you would also have to use lead white, vermilion, real naples yellow, and cobalt blue. All of which will end up killing you, sooner or later.

>> No.5077753

>>5077684
who says i wont?

>> No.5077902

>>5074576
What is there to say? It's an okay painting, unless you were going for realism and correct proportions, in which case you failed. The head is long af, the eyes point in different directions and are at different angles, same with nose and lips both of which are barely 3d shapes, the shadow under the chin is dirty, and the shape of the face itself is very oval and boneless

>> No.5077945

>>5077090

Very cool, anon. Ganbatte

>> No.5078019

>>5072199
Thanks guy. That's a good compliment

>> No.5078025

>>5077576
in what world does that not read as 'the man doesn't who draw '? there's some interesting elements and textures here though. not sure about the composition, it's balanced with detail and the simpler bnw background but it's too busy near the top, makes it look like it was cropped imo. nice work though keep it up

>> No.5078044 [DELETED] 

>>5059183
True garbage and your dad's a faggot.

>> No.5078134

>>5077576

It's very cluttered, my mind has trouble processing what I'm looking at.

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5078528

painting dogs

>> No.5078546 [DELETED] 

>>5078528


Kek. Fucking awful mate.

>> No.5078551

>>5078546
Don’t be mean to him it’s not the dogs fault

>> No.5078572

>>5078551

I never thought pugs could get any uglier but Brian managed to do it. Quite a feat.

>> No.5078593 [DELETED] 

>>5077184
God, you are such a fart sniffing faggot.

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>>5077684
>All of which will end up killing you, sooner or later.
eh. Life expectancy of every job is low, that's why they're jobs. Even sitting at a computer all day kills you eventually

>> No.5078779

>>5078616
Why not cover the canvas

Why not paint all the way to the edges

Why not use something slightly better than dollar store canvas panels

Then they'd at least be charming hobby paintings

>> No.5078786

>>5078528
>>5078616

Please stop posting, these are giving me cancer of the eye

>> No.5078813

>>5078779
>>5078786
>>5078786
All I want for Christmas, is a stop to all this shit.

>> No.5078816

>>5078813

Then learn how to paint something decent you cunt

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>>5078813
they can't help it they're autistic. Inoffensive paintings of puppies triggers them, they only accept naked anime girls and concept art as real art

>> No.5078860

>Brian general

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>>5060897
this girl asked if I could paint her with her cat

>> No.5079074

>>5078816
I'm not Brian, I want his shit to stop.

>> No.5079081

>>5078830
You're the autistic gimp. You're the one I want to freaking stop, your gutter quality posts are stopping any one else contributing.

>> No.5079088

>>5079081
Cope, nobody else is contributing because this board produces traditional artwork at a snails pace, it already takes you retards a whole week to make a single digital sketch

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Wip

>> No.5079607

Brian is still going to get in trouble for using pictures for monetary purposes without authorization one of these days

>> No.5080112

>>5079607

I hope so, he deserves it for fucking up every /trad/ thread. They would be comfy if it wasn't for his retarded ass sperging and posting his waste of materials trash.

>> No.5080115

>>5079463

Interested in seeing where this will go, the skin isn't jiving with me right now but not sure if it's just a base undertone or if you're keeping that. I would suggest to make it less orange and bright.

>> No.5080116

>>5077647

The only good thing ITT. The rest of you should fuck off.

>> No.5080131

>>5080116
pyw

>> No.5080161

>>5080131

No need, surely you must have eyes yourself

>> No.5080169
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The triumph of color over the comedy that is tragedy

>> No.5080170

>>5078593
imagine crabbing someone for wanting to go beyond what is expected and common place for his craft.

>> No.5080441

>>5059351
Wtf just stop

>> No.5080712 [DELETED] 

>>5080170
Imagine getting called pretentious and then saying something else pretentious.
Kill yourself.

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>>5080441
ok

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What's everyone's opinion on Photorealistic Fantasy?
Or the thought of Photography replacing realistic paintings being not entirely right since you can't just take a photo of a fairy or a dragon. But you can paint such things realistically by mixing different characteristics from real animals.

>> No.5083106

>>5082821
genre shit will never be art.

>> No.5083220

>>5083106

Shut your whore mouth

>> No.5083274

>>5083220
genre shit will never be art.

>> No.5083277

>>5083274
ywnbagmi

>> No.5083294

>>5059358
This is great

>> No.5084053

>>5082821
photorealism and fantasy are both bad, and you want to mix them. there have been artists who painted creatures like griffins and monsters throughout history, but it somehow isnt the same as something made by mtg-playing dweebs.

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>>5077090

>> No.5084735

>>5084710

Very cool man, it's coming along great. Where I can see more of your work?

>> No.5084775

>>5084735
I post on ig only, search for c0rdeiro_2020

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5084846

>braps chadly

>> No.5085531
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5085531

I just recently got back into drawing after a few months hiatus. I decided that I like traditional art way more, so since a few days ago I've been doodling and drawing from life (cars, buildings, random people in the street).

I've discovered I like to work with ink more since I can see it better, despite that I gave myself a Christmas treat and bought this Faber-Castell pencil set to start. Any tips to draw using the whole range? (HB to 8B) Other tips or advice will be appreciated too.

>> No.5085873

im convinced full range pencil hardness is a scam to sell more products to begs.

>> No.5085914

>>5085873

You are a dumbass then

>> No.5085933
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>>5085873
You definitely don't need a full set. You can skip every grade or two and you'd never need for more. e.g. HB, 2B, 6B and 9B + white and black colored pencil.

>> No.5087558

>>5085933
drawing with a range of pencils is quite a specialized approach. most artists just find a pencil that works for them and stick to that. it is good that the option is available for those who want to work in the way that working with multiple pencils corresponds to, but that isnt most artists. besides the more advanced an artist is with his career and skill level, the more likely pencils are to be used mostly for sketches.

>> No.5089388

>>5085531
Depends on what you want to achieve, i believe that you only need the whole set if you want to draw photorealism. if its to sketch and ink over it, a couple of them should do the trick

>> No.5089432

>>5075565
Pthalo blue
Quinacradone magenta
Hansa yellow
Ivory black
Titanium white
Burnt seinna

>> No.5090395
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I'm working on a simpler painting I hope I can knock out in a short time while I work on the more complicated stuff. Here's the initial sketch.

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>>5090395

The final cleaned up drawing on Hot-Press watercolor paper.

Unfortunately the paper I'm using tends to smudge when I attempt to erase a line; seems like it doesn't like to let go of the graphite. Fortunately I'm currently painting it and the graphite is all being covered up with paint.

>> No.5090643
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Cast painting

>> No.5091300

>>5090399
Really nice!
>>5090643
It looks really cool

>> No.5091310
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Abstract piece from a few months ago. I think it was oil pastels and chalk and some pencil and pen.

I've gone off it a bit now. I think i'd like to have more variance in mark making and contrasts and carve into the form a bit more but I think the flatness kind of works in its own way

>> No.5091332

>>5077576
Very nice, but there's some extraneous details that take away from the overall impression.

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>>5076022
>is this good art?
Botticelli is probably the greatest old master there ever was. he had complete formal control and created idealised aesthetics

>> No.5091346

>>5066442
Okay, but can someone give me a thorough rundown of cumfarti and his antics since he first appeared and all the lore surrounding it, or like a “best of” compilation or something? This seems like it could be a fun way to kill some time

>> No.5091362

>>5091300
>Really nice!

Thank you! I've currently got it blocked in and I finished the sky last night. Hopefully I can finish painting the buildings in the next 2 days.

>> No.5091363

>>5091346
bruh who cares go draw

>> No.5091369

>>5091340

>Angel dodges mind bullet fired by the Virgin Mary.

Kek.

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>>5091369
Yeah Botticelli is timeless. His backgrounds are very surreal

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>>5089388
Before trying to achieve photorealism, for now I'm focusing on drawing from life and people from Internet. Practicing circles and shapes too.

But I'd like to draw something like this: https://i.imgur.com/4stGIrq.jpg

It's a goal. I want to see how much I can take these pencils before moving on to other things.

>> No.5091468

>>5057799
How do you sell? Who do you sell to?

>> No.5091494

>>5057799

I sure hope you pay your taxes otherwise have fun getting buttfucked by the IRS.

>> No.5091497

>>5091494
I've said this to him before. No answer so I imagine he's hoping he won't get found out. Thinking you won't is real stupid.

>> No.5091502

>>5091377

His stuff is so formal and icon-like in nature compared to other Renaissance artists. It gives his work an almost abstract quality compared to say, Michaelangelo.

Like, his buildings look like the "idea" of buildings, rather than actual buildings. The waves on the water look like so formal and unnatural. I get the idea that his work is more tied to the iconographic art of the late-middle-ages than some of his contemporaries. It definitely makes it stand out.

>> No.5091513

>>5091494
>>5091497
why wouldn't i pay taxes

>> No.5091530

>>5091513

Because you are severely retarded, for one.

>> No.5091534

>>5091513
Because you don't bother painting properly?

>> No.5091750

where would you sell your art online as a trad artist living in europe?

>> No.5092355
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5092355

>>5090399

Progress.

>> No.5092827

>>5068061
this is dope but the fact that the paint/shading is really smooth on most of the face and then has some random globs in the middle looks like shit imo.

should either have everything smooth like the chin/jaw/hair or go all in on the brush/paint texture.

>> No.5092830

>>5091346
>or like a “best of” compilation or something?
Zoomers were a mistake

>> No.5092834

>>5092355
The colors really brought life to it. Good job.

>> No.5093075
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5093075

this was a commission

>> No.5093752

>>5092355
Nice! What are you painting with?

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5093887

Just like the simulations

Photo is much warmer than reality!

>> No.5093904

>>5090643
Wow, lovely! Is this in an atelier?
Can you tell me your thinking re light and temperature, is there some kind of warm background ambient? I love how saturated it gets in that hair curl but I don’t understand why

>>5092355
Nice! Makes me think of William Russel flint!
Would recommend thinking more about the light quality - you painted a sunny day, but the shadows are diffuse implying an overcast day and as though the light is coming from behind the viewer.

Love the style!

>> No.5093909

>>5082821
It’s okay, pretty good. His blog has way more interesting light phenomena though.
For me I learned much more from reading PBR cg blogs about light phenomena, once you understand the physics it’s just about curating and diminishing/exaggerating parts

>> No.5094046

just getting in to oil. How much should I underdraw? Should I spend the time correcting mistakes on practice pieces? What are you guys’ processed? Pic related, I think I made the eyes too far apart

>> No.5094050
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>>5094046

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>>5094046
>how much should I underdraw?
A lot, it’s the skeleton. You can move lines when you add the block in, and obviously there’s no point going ham on details you’ll paint over, but the simple forms and division of shadow and light should be 100% perfect or the rest of the painting will be on shaky foundations
>should I spend time correcting mistakes
Yes. As Richard Schmid said, “leave nothing wrong on the canvas knowingly”. The only mistake you should leave is a happy accident. Obviously, if the paint starts to mix together with shitty colours and becomes a muddy mess, you need to scrape back or even wipe clean with turps, and start again. Oil is forgiving but the cleaner and more confident your process the better the result, and no one likes an overworked mess.
However, do not make the beginners error of thinking large, loose, impressionistic areas are “wrong” and need to be corrected with too much detail. This is obviously stylistic, but try taking a step back during the stages after the block in when it’s still “unfinished” and determine - would overdetailing this help? Should I quit while I’m ahead?

Nice work. Temperatures are off and the facial proportions are pretty weak (huge philtrum, tiny cranium), and the impasto isn’t very artful but you will make it for sure. Work bigger and do not rely on graphic design crutches like the square.

>> No.5094171

>>5092834
Thank you!
>>5093752
Gouache.
>>5093904
I think as I add detail and refine it the shadows will get sharper and more defined. as of right now it's just loosely blocked in.

Glad you're liking it so far.

>> No.5094215

>>5094138
The skele is 90% of the work, paint mixing is the rest. I've spent a lot of my night fight placement of features because I've not learn the head properly.
Don't be me.

>> No.5094225

>>5094138
Wow. Thank you for the feedback. I’ll look to improve in all the mentioned areas. It’s difficult to figure out which skills are more important to learn first, but I very much appreciate the criticism and encouragement. Thanks!

>> No.5094232

>>5094046
it really depends on how comfortable you are with your work flow in oil paint. some can work with just some loose guidelines because they know how to go from there. with alla prima, it doesnt matter as much because you can scrape the still fresh paint off and try again. but then you might be wasting paint that could be avoided if you had a sure footing.

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painting this awhile ago.

>> No.5094326
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painting this awhile ago.

>> No.5094370

>>5093075

You can't even copy something. It sucks, just like everything else you do. Learn to not muddy everything up.

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>> No.5094639

>>5094326

Very nice, is it gouache?

>> No.5095028

>>5094370
I wasn’t trying to copy it, the client wasn’t paying me enough to do an exact copy. Ended up getting about $150 for it

>> No.5095048

>>5093887
Should have gone with a smoother surface.
The canvas is really not pretty.

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Trying to get into working with watercolor. I only bothered to reference the cat and crumpled cloth. This was painted on cotton paper with some unbranded student grade paints. I had a really hard time with the colour drifting to the edges as can be seen where the background meets the characters. Is this because of poor water control on my part or a sign of using shitty paints?

>> No.5095192

>>5094639
thank you. it is oil paint.

>> No.5095194

>>5093887
hey you are supposed to prime the canvas with gesso, bro. it looks like you just painted straight into the canvas which is insane and probably wasted 10x more paint than necessary because it was just getting soaked into the weave. please prime ur canvas

>> No.5095263

>>5094326
really good. his left eye is too bright I feel like.

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I'm trying out working in watercolor but have problems with the colors running to the edges as can be seen where the characters intersect the background (eg. around the right shoulder). Is this because I have poor water control or due to using paints of dubious quality? I painted on 100% cotton 300gsm paper with some unbranded but probably student paint.

>> No.5095735

>>5059632
>tfw the shittiest painting I did, a copy of magritte, on a shitty low-cost chinese canvas, was worth 30€

You are doing it wrong, dude

>> No.5095817

>>5095722
You can try rotating the paper when working if you want to avoid the paint gathering at edges and have it spread more evenly.

>> No.5095897

>>5059358
Finally, a man after my own heart.

The good thing is that you've trained the technique, and even though drawing from photos is a bore and gimping yourself, you can try getting into weird angles, expressions more. You can also apply the construction from imagination and your technique to create real fake humans.
If you can go outside and sketch you can combine all three, jot down defining features of someone, put them on a constructed head and then apply the finish yoj already know how. This all can get you through to when you have the opportunity to draw from life.

Good thing right now is that you can farm social media likes right now. And even though mutating technique into something with more flourish seem appealing, i would do that to show others, but for yourself you should also probably do some master copies of pen and pencil masters, maybe even drypoints and etching. There's an incredible wealth of expression in line, so go and get it, anon.

As for excitement, again if you find more uncomfortable references, like weird angles, strong lighting situations this will present need for different solutions. You could also try shifting your value range turning normal reference photo in high-key or low-key, placing accents and so on.
Loom at russian academic drawing, they have a very specific way of separating the object, background and air around it, see if you can do it to an existing reference.

>> No.5096073

>>5095897

Just so you know, you sound like an insufferable cunt

>> No.5096075

>>5096073
pyw

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how's your palette discipline boys

>> No.5096242

>>5096169
I bought a stack of those ceramic Asian sauce trays that anime background artists use to mix their paints, because I was sick of trying to keep the colors separated in the little sections of my regular ceramic pallet. It's much more convenient and easy to clean when you're done with a specific color or mix, but still need the other colors you're working with.

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wip

>> No.5096287

>>5096073
Sure thing. I also loathe practicing from photos, but that's all i've got, so the seething is coming through.

Also, there's nothing with normies liking a work or liking a work that normies would enjoy. A good thing has a wider appeal, that's just how it works.

>> No.5096290

>>5096169
>autistically mix each hue beforehand
>do your best not to get out of squares
>end up using up one mix and barely touching others
>have to scrape all that shit down
Just do what the great artists do and have a system how pure pigment is out on your palette, you don't need anything else.

Even though your pic is talking more abotu the person than practice.

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>> No.5096337

>>5059358
this looks great bruhhh

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>>5096169
terrible

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From this year inspired by Guernica

>> No.5096564

>>5095194
>>5095048
Oh god I’m retarded, that’s what gesso is for... always wondered why some paintings looked so smooth and creamy

>> No.5096567

>>5096511
Okay, the major problem is that the teeth are the point of highest contrast so catch the viewer’s eye first and hold it. The values are okay but it’s lost against the bg and I would say the mid tones are too dark. I’m also not feeling stylised appealing shapes and you don’t have a hierarchy of details - it’s all equally rendered, which isn’t how humans view things if you want a more naturalistic result. It’s also very monotone with little temp difference

I tell you these things bc you are talented and the image is very good, can’t wait to see the next

>> No.5096576

>>5096567
Thanks. Best critique I've had.
I'll keep all those factors in mind when painting.

It's a lot of stuff to juggle. Maybe i have to plan ahead better or use a checklist or something.

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>>5096169
>Use professional heavy body acrylic for years
>Everything is always consistent
>Plenty of pigment
>Dries extremely quickly
>Pulling the right paint tubes out of the pile as if guided by the work ethic of my asian ancestors.
>Put down exactly what I want when I need it.
>Palette looks like a landfil
>Just swap in new palette paper
>Do this for years

>Take up plein air
>Mix paint on an unfinished wood stick
>In winter
>In the dark
>In a snowstorm
>Don't even need to feel my hands to mix
>Do this for years

>I have transcended the need for a palette with sheer discipline.

Just as you learn to turn forms in your head, you can learn to mix volumes of paint with your mind.

>> No.5096710

>>5096564
either fine weave to begin with, more priming applied, or painted on wood (also primed). painting on wood is probably more convenient for very small stuff btw.

>> No.5096895

>>5060948
Cool stuff, I'd like to see it finished.

>> No.5096944

this thread is completely devoid of digital whinging, interesting how digital threads are full of tradfags seething

>> No.5096978

>>5096693
what's your plein air setup?

>> No.5097137

>>5096944
are they really digital threads though? or just general threads that happen to be mostly digital.

>> No.5097172

>>5097137
that was the easiest way i could word it, just wish we got the same decency

>> No.5097228

>>5097172
it's just Brian shitting up the board

>> No.5097239

>>5096564
Just get some cheap wooden panels or hardboard cut into sizes at a hardware store and prime them with a spray can of oil based primer.
It's cheaper, it's easier and you can get pumping out the paintings.

>> No.5097241

>>5096169
I don't have time for this.

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>>5096169

>> No.5098206

I procrastinate and only start painting or drawing when it's late and I'm tired which leads to frustration and anger and so I start to view my art supplies and the activity itself as a negative, I no longer associate it with joy or creativity but with frustration and a pressure to perform and get good..
Any advice or anyone else with a similar problem? I'm /beg/ as can be, I want to enjoy it again and not have all my stuff just collect dust.

>> No.5098241

>>5098206
There is a type of artist that needs to work on multiple paintings at once.
When you get frustrated just switch to the next one.
When you feel weak you can focus on stretching and gessoing canvas, or maybe sketch and do underpaintings.
But make sure when you are strong and confident to use the energy to complete the paintings.

>> No.5098333

>>5096265
What medium?

>> No.5098414

>>5098333
watercolor

>> No.5098416

>>5097280
Just frame that.

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>>5098416
After around 6 months i usually save my palette.

>> No.5099118

>>5057618
This is so revolting

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>>5096978
Made with ~$15 worth of wood strapping / bolts. I hang my paints in a backpack in the center to give it weight and a center of mass.

>> No.5099667

>>5057600
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET OVER THE ANXIETY OF DRAWING TRAD. IM USED TO DIGITAL WHERE THERES NO PRESSURE.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5099882

>>5099126
Nice! Is it lightweight and easy to carry around? Seems like the middle part would be quite tall. I'm planning on somehow putting together a Gurney style easel that can be mounted on a camera tripod, but I really don't have a workshop and tools for it.

>> No.5099909

>>5098481

How can you find anything on this.

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>>5092355

More Progress.

>> No.5100037

>>5099667
>HOW THE FUCK DO I GET OVER THE ANXIETY OF DRAWING TRAD. IM USED TO DIGITAL WHERE THERES NO PRESSURE.

Literally none of this sentence makes sense to me.

>> No.5100117

>>5100032
You should put a bit of orange and lighten the values in the back buildings so it could pop a bit against the blue skies

Right now it seems like it all reads the same

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I'm the guy who posted those really green plein air paintings a number of months back. Got feedback saying the paintings were too fucking green, so I said I'd try out sienna grounds. Here is one of the results. From August.

>> No.5100595

>>5100032
Looks great! Is it all from imagination or are you working from a ref? Really nice work! Looking forward to seeing it finished.

>> No.5100612

>>5100399
Using an under colour is a good way of toning down green, but you've let it be rather strident.
There are several ways of dealing with green in the landscape, depending on which school of painting you have greatest affinity to, so it might be best to tell us who your style is be closest to? Impressionists, English pre Impressionists like Constable/Turner, the Hudson River school???

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>>5100612
I don't really know, I feel like my style is still developing a lot, but the plein air painter I like the most is Constable. Also like the work of Theodore Rousseau and Camille-Corot.

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>>5100399
>>5100612
>>5100850
Here's another one from August.

>> No.5101140

>>5100595
Pure imagination. Although I did a lot of research and reference prior to starting it.