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>> No.5056096

>>5056044
I suck at doing clothing. Why god. Why.

>> No.5056102
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5056102

Anime has slowly become one of the most replicated artstyles and I'm tired of seeing it, it has slowly inspired people around the world through media and because of this it has become watered down through imitations of others. I really wish I could go online and see something original.

>> No.5056129

I want to live alone.

>> No.5056150

I want to die alone.

>> No.5056153

I JUST WANT GRAD SCHOOL SEMESTER TO END SO I CAN MAKE ART AGAIN WITHOUT FEELING LIKE I'M PROCRASTINATING ON MORE URGENT MATTERS

Married folks. How the hell do you balance marriage, work, school, and art? Is there anything that's helped you prioritize?

>> No.5056155

>>5056102
i wanna read that

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5056161

>>5056044
>wacom driver not found

>> No.5056163
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5056163

>>5056044
Why do babies need a constant vent thread up

>> No.5056169

I failed at everything.

>> No.5056186

>>5056153
Prioritize, and keep a schedule. Prioritizing can mean dropping one thing to focus on another for a while btw.

>> No.5056190

>>5056169
Get the fuck up bitch

>> No.5056197

I hate my job, and I'm stuck here. Can't afford art school so I can't get an art job. I can feel that I'm wasting my life. If I quit all that happens is I have less money and end up moving back in with my parents in my mid 30s.

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5056199

I'm beg and I want to get gud fast but I know thats impossible and it pisses me off

>> No.5056202

>>5056199
Also I just want to draw for drawthreads and have people thank me and be happy for my work, maybe even get a bunch of likes on Twitter or pixiv or something. That's worth more then money to me. Being mediocre sucks

>> No.5056234

>>5056044
>draw with shitty limited tools
>drawings look nice or at least interesting and inspired
>draw with clip studio paint
>flat and lifeless
how the FUCK does this happen? i'm ten times better with a shitty pixel brush on a 72 dpi 400x400 palette than i am with all the fancy tools and brushes my heart could desire on a 300 dpi 4000x4000 one. it feels very limiting.

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5056246

Any tips on how to maintain focus?
Or is it something like subdividing attention into more manageable chunks of task?

>> No.5056261

>>5056246
Pomadoro or whatever that tomato timer's called.

>> No.5056263

>>5056190
This

>> No.5056274

I can't into digital art to save my life, the disconnect throws me off compared to pencil and paper. Not that I'm all that good there, either.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZy548CAXc0&t=179s

Why the FUCK did this get rejected from Calarts?

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5056295

>>5056044
I do not normally complain, but thank goodness this vent thread is here.

Where are the commissions? Where is the cash-flow? Lost my non-art job at the start of the pandemic. Haven’t had a commission in almost two years. Burning through savings, stopped caring how little I have left. I did not want to wage slave for Mr. Shekelstein, nor enter the medical industry as some pawn of some bossy administrator. Family and art is all that remains. I pray that someone finds my art and commissions me.

>> No.5056299

>>5056044
Finally built up enoigh courage to draw something to day. Tablet pen dies...

>> No.5056300

>>5056295
you gotta hustle dude. it sucks. being good doesn't matter as much as developing a social presence. hope you can find some work lad.

>> No.5056322
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5056322

>>5056044
All of my drawings look stiff as fuck. If I did a study of pic related, my shit wouldn’t look as dynamic. Sketches look like there’s some movement going on but it’s the line art that makes it look stiff.

>> No.5056328

>>5056299
The universe is testing you

>> No.5056329

>>5056322
Yeah. Line-art really brings out the weaknesses in your drawings. It’s the same with coloring. The only fix is to finish your art with line art and color more often

>> No.5056332

>>5056044
I work with CSP, and barring the hard round brush, I just can't seem to find one for digital painting that works.... Doesn't help that I've been adjusting and modifying the brushes to the point of no return

>> No.5056333

>>5056274
buy a screen tablet dumbass

>> No.5056338

>>5056332
I never got used to the weird ways they would try to mimic traditional media with digital brushes

>> No.5056346

>>5056234
Know your tools anon. Draw your image on a 400x400 canvas but draw it in a vector layer. Then you just up the resolution of the canvas under the edit tab. The vector lines will be crisp at any size. You can adjust the width and such with the vector editing tool then rasterize it as a normal layer later if you need to. If you're talking about purely painting though vectors won't help you.

>> No.5056365

I’m doing a bunch of practice but I’m not sure what the point is. I just want to draw cool fanart not dumb master studies. It takes me a long time to draw them and I’m not sure if I’m spending my time correctly

>> No.5056369

>>5056365
Do you feel like you’re learning something? If not, is it challenging? I feel like if you said yes to either of those questions, it’s not a waste of time.

But just start making fan art man. Drawing from imagination is an incredible way to learn drawing

>> No.5056379

>>5056369
Yes to both, that’s why it takes up so much of time to draw the studies. As for the fanart, I’m just a little anxious about sharing work I know that will have glaring mistakes so I focused on studies.

>> No.5056414

>>5056044
I can only jerk off to hentai. I thought I was a joke but 3D humans look disgusting to me now. Is there something wrong with me?

>> No.5056466
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5056466

I'm going deaf in around a year.
My hearing already sucks.

Haven't been able to do a thing the past day, just been paralyzed

>> No.5056470

>>5056414
You just haven't been watching good 3d porn.

>> No.5056473

>>5056466
What happened to u? Are u 88 years old?

>> No.5056502
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5056502

>>5056466
I'm sorry anon.
You'll get it back some day.
New technology is amazing.

>> No.5056506

>>5056414
I bet you jerk off to doujins

>> No.5056528

Onaholes are essential equipment.

>> No.5056530

>>5056528
This is fact. An artist today without an onahole is like a renaissance artist without a ruler.

>> No.5056575

>>5056528
Tips on maintenance?

>> No.5056742
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5056742

>find girl i like
>she's a better artist than me
>she's a uni student
>she's have a future ahead of her
>decide i'm not worth her and leave her alone
>draw cunny to numb the pain

>> No.5056762

>>5056414
>Is there something wrong with me?
Yeah, but if its not afecting your relationships with people(romantic ones or not) it doesn't matter much. Not like you're hurting anyone.

>> No.5056783
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5056783

I've made it to 1,300 followers on Twitter this year. I know it's not much, and there are others who have made it to 5k-10k in just a span of months, but I'm happy where I'm at because my commissions fill up so easily now. It makes me happy knowing I'm getting closer to the possibility of doing freelance full time without worrying about not having enough money to live. I already made $500 this week and I'm going to open again in a couple of days. I'm glad I kept pushing myself to draw no matter how many times you guys told me I'm garbage.

>> No.5056788

>>5056414
You have ascended.

>> No.5056817

>>5056197
>Can't afford art school so I can't get an art job
You don’t need art school.

>> No.5056833

>>5056783
what kind of stuff do you make?

>> No.5056878

I'm almost 40 and I'm still not good enough. Also I lost my job recently and I'm basically unskilled in anything.
Apart my gf, my life is a giant failure.

>> No.5056963

>>5056300
Thanks, anon. Times are tough, but I’ll pull through somehow.

>> No.5057017

>>5056466
At least you still can see. I'd kill myself if I lost my sight

>> No.5057028
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5057028

I sad. I'm full millennial retard and can't focus for more than 5 minutes at a time. Not for anything gaming, study, art, etc. My ex is a jerk and was using me again. I don't even want to get high anymore. I've got a few months left before I'll probably have to take the Sars-CoV-2 "vaccine" because I'm a "frontline" worker. Whatever that bullshit is about. I have no savings but when it happens I'll have to quit cause sis don't trust like that. I'm not good enough for commissions because it can't study for long enough because my attention span is terrible. It is overwhelming, I get depressed about it. Mostly about how my entire life is just one failure after another.

>> No.5057072

>>5057028
become a gay prostitute

dont worry its not bad, i believe most of the users are not worse than me. Decent neat gentlemen with beautiful modern design bedrooms and clean beds. Not some disgusting sweaty pigs you see in hentai. You have to be cute tho, then it will pay you very well. I spend 1-2k a week on it, now imagine how much you can make when you have several clients every day, do maths yourself
Just embrace people`s kinks and you will get so much more with you time and body my boy

>> No.5057091

>>5056102
Be the change you want to see, it is the best time to become creative.

>> No.5057099

>>5056163
The real question is why do niggers make 50 independent vent threads a day and why do jannies let them?

>> No.5057107

>leave hands for last
>procrastinate the whole day
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK HANDS

>> No.5057111

>>5057107
take the handpill, hands are sexy af. Don't skimp on them. you'll get a bigger fanbase from that alone.

>> No.5057114

>>5057107
Same but with shoes.

>> No.5057123

>>5057072
but..I'm not a gay man or willing to sellout my body. I just wanna play video games and eat snacks. I'd be happy to be someone's neet.

>> No.5057181

I WANT A GF SO BAD AAAAHHHH AAAHHHHH AAAAHHHHH IIII LOOOOVVEE YOOOUUU JEEESSSUUUSSS CHHHRRRIIIIISSSTTT

>> No.5057184

>>5057123
you just do it for a year or so, keep on if you like it
if not, you wont need to work 9 to 5 for a couple of years at the very least, play vidya and eat snacks as you wished

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>>5057111
>>5057114
I wonder if I can get by without truly getting hand construction (because it's complex as fuck) and just grinding gesture studies of hands. This worked with feet but they're baby tier by comparison to za hando.

>> No.5057350

Holy crackers I love working only 4 days a week. The trade off is longer work hours but I feel way more productive. I just need to make sure I do really well to not get fired and I’m set.

>> No.5057412

>Tfw you start to imagine what could be the routine of your dream If toi knew your tools better,lived in a good environnement and had stronger fundies.

It's depressing.I hate myself for all these crappy choices that got me here,struggling to be just more than a beg.While others make huge progress by messing ground post of the time.
Self learning isn't for me I guess,maybe should I looking for an art school,maybe just some courses.

>> No.5057427

>>5057412
>all these crappy choices that got me here
How old are you and what choices?

>> No.5057444

>>5057290
Try it out anon. What have you got to lose?

>> No.5057479

>keep drawing doodles
>can’t figure out which pose or expression to draw would fit the best with the character
Halp

>> No.5057492

SNEED.

>> No.5057493

MY HANDS ARE TOO FUCKING COLD I CAN'T DRAW AAAAGGHH FUUUCKKKGGHHGHGH!!!!!

>> No.5057627

I'm quitting my job tonight. Wish me luck anons.

>>5057493
Eat some protein and keep a heater nearby. I have the same problem. Exercise helped fix it.

>> No.5057643

>>5057627

You never "quit" your job. You need to get fired in some way so you can legally get big daddy bucks.

>> No.5057648

>>5056202
Seems like you're drawing for attention, anon. Don't draw for attention. It will only lead to frustration. Before anything draw for yourself.

>> No.5057658

I want to study properly however the moment I open up a lesson I feel like all the energy is sucked out of my body so I go back to drawing mediocre anime characters. Man I'm screwing myself over so badly but I can't find the discipline to actually study.

>> No.5057747

Coming up with a unique, recognizable, consistent stylization is fucking hard as dicks. Detail vs simplification is my endless conflict. I improved in some areas and regressed in others and now I have to figure out where I went wrong.

>> No.5057768

My toenails keep falling off every couple months!! The pinky toenails! I'm tired of it! I'm tired of them falling off!!! (´゚д゚`)

>> No.5058024
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5058024

I'm really stupid.

>> No.5058085

>>5058024
why

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5058086

>>5058024
same

>> No.5058117

>>5056044
I fear that I lack something fundamental and not just in art, but as a human. Like if you were born without sight, a massive unseen retardation that hinders my understanding of the world and people and it extends to every thing I do like drawing.

>> No.5058119

>>5058117
everybody has felt that way anon. It's called low self-esteem and insecurity. Don't worry too much about it.

>> No.5058128

I JUST WANT TO DRAW CHARACTER POSES FROM MY IMAGINATION. WHY IS THIS NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE?

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5058134

>>5056044
>tfw you see a drawing in the wild and you recognize it's a faggot from this board
>someone else actually liked it enough to save and repost it to share it with others
>become upset
I know it is pathetic but I can't help and be a vindictive catty bitch. Fuck you.

>> No.5058148

>>5058134
ngmi anon

>> No.5058151

>>5058134
gg i was the artist

>> No.5058152

>>5057648
Why is it bad? How does it lead to frustration? Genuine question, I'm not trying to be a cunt

>> No.5058200

>>5058128
Literally Hampton

>> No.5058221

>>5058200
>FROM MY IMAGINATION
read

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5058329

I want to cry
I wanted to be an artist, tell stories that can only be told as I imagine with extraordinary visuals, make paintings and more but this will never happen
Talent, I don't want to judge but talent goes to the ones that draw porn and not to me, ART HATES ME.
i want to cut my tendons on my right hand as to never be tempted into drawing again, I want to cry so hard

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>>5058329
4 MONTHS WASTED and I wanted this so bad but I fucking CANT
I HAVE NO TALENT
I WANT TO CUT THE TENDONS ON THIS BODY AND IT'S HAND
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK WHY WHY WHY WHY FUCK

>> No.5058332

>>5056044
>take a shower
>my room suddenly smells like shit

>> No.5058337

>>5058329
>>5058330
Lonely anon, give it another 4 months. You’ll be surprised

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>>5058337
EAT SHIT
DONT GIVE ME FALSE HOPE
NO ONE EVER LIKED MY DRAWINGS, NO ONE EVER TOLD ME GMI
AND I MADE NO PROGRESS IN 4 MONTHS
CHECK MY THREAD AND YOULL SEE IM TALENTLESS
FUCK

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>>5058338
being exposed to better artist is such a double edged sword

seeing your peers get better way faster than you as if it's magic.

This mindset is ngmi, anon.


It's all about the mindset.
get art friends at your level, talk with them, grow with them, learn with them. Having someone at your journey is way better than being alone, anon.

>> No.5058361

>>5058358
FUCK YOU
You said it yourself
they are better artists because they have talent
art rejected me from birth by not giving me talent
it's over
im hopeless
im talentless

>> No.5058369

>>5058361
for them
You're seeing their highlight reels


for you
You're watching the whole movie


Your seeing the ups

you're at your down, better get back up

>> No.5058373

>>5058361
You have lots of talent, anon :)

>> No.5058374

>>5058373
>>5058369

Fuckyou
Dont mock me

>> No.5058377

>>5058374
I’m not mocking you. Most beginners don’t realize how shit they are when drawing, yet you realized it! That’s amazing

>> No.5058397

Will I ever be able to figure out how to create appealing skin tones or am I doomed to making weird pink rat people

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>>5058374
it's a vent thread after all

let it all out bro, let all of that frustration out

if you feel attacked, then maybe if you calm down and read that again, SLOWLY

then maybe you'll realize I'm giving you advice. Not attacking you.

>> No.5058411

>>5058397
You'll get better skin result if you learn on how to properly utilize the color leveling function

>> No.5058412

>>5058377
I agree

I draw all the time out of passion and not because I keep asking myself if I'm good enough, and asked for approval by anonymous people in the internet

>> No.5058421

>>5058412
>>5058401
Not trying to be mean, but if he spent half the time he did making posts on here asking and or getting someone to critique his errors, he might improve. There's no excuse. There's ton of art youtubers and artist with servers. Hell I don't like ethan baker but even his discord has professional artists with critique classes and everything free of charge. There's no excuse in 2020 to be stuck and or not doing anything about it.

>> No.5058433

>>5058421
prolly expecting more from his own hardwork. This shit is slow and hard, and if you hate slow and hard better quit now. Cause the whole time it will be like that, ignite your passion even more, and you might just reach that skyhigh expectations of yours you call improvement.

>> No.5058438

>>5058330
Hahahahahahaha

>> No.5058521

>>5058397
Use orange and yellow, not red. Save red/pink strictly for places where the skin is thinner like joints, or lips and cheeks.

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>>5056044
Janny delete the /beg/ thread LMAO

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>>5056466
That's sucks anon, I hope you get better

>> No.5058554

>>5058522
/begs/ aren’t welcome on /ic/, only shitposters and coomerfags own this place

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5058557

>>5056161
services.msc, force start all the wacom shit

>> No.5058560

my dog is dying and i've never in my life felt so horrible

>> No.5058564 [DELETED] 

>>5058560
Which breed and cause?

>> No.5058651

>>5056742
what the fuck kind of retarded blunder was that ? you know you can work on yourself right ?

>> No.5058674

>>5056742
It's not like you had any chance to begin with but man, you're fucking dumb

>> No.5058677 [DELETED] 

>>5058522
Huh?

>> No.5058692

In 2019 I was so full of inspiration. I had no following and just drew what I wanted to see more of and gained a following. It wasn't just the numbers that made me happy, but that people wanted to see what I wanted to see and loved it maybe as much as I did. This year I pretty much lost all inspiration and haven't been posting anything and I felt bad for letting people down, but mostly bad because the passion just fizzled out as fast as I'd found it.
These past few days I've just been doodling dumb shit and posting it on this board. It feels really good having an outlet to just draw and post anonymously with no pressure or expectations. I've been full of so much anxiety with everything going on but today I feel really good!! I'm having lots of fun!!!!

>> No.5058709

>>5058560
good. fuck dogs. probably got sick from eating its own shit all the time.

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5058885

this can't be happening to me again. My heart can't go through this crushing again, I'm not ready. I'm in disbelief.
...
Oh reality, please be gentle for I am only a mortal.

>> No.5058890

>>5058885
Wrong thread?

>> No.5058895

>>5058890
No, just really liked that one DAD thread image and saved it. It seemed to portray my despair filled wisdom.

>> No.5058903

>>5058895
Oh. I think the artist is a_naf on Twitter (if he’s still alive?). I really hate seeing anything dad cancer outside of their hole after I go through the trouble of filtering.

>> No.5059034

>>5058221
What’s the title of Hamptons book???

>> No.5059066

Things went from bad to worse. I don't see how it is possible for them to get any worse. Outside, everything is black. Things are not as they used to be. There are no longer any friendly stars in the sky, and the friendly voices of men are turned to a cacophony of meaningless brattle.

>> No.5059125

>>5059034
how the fuck should I know who some no name artist is

>> No.5059126

>>5058152
Trying to draw for the sake of others is not a good motivator. Other people don't care about the process and only care about the end result. It takes a very long time to get good enough at art to impress the average person, so every moment that you spend practicing and creating works that are not good enough to impress the average person, you will frustrate yourself.

When you draw for the sake of others, you'll look at your art through the lens of others and become frustrated because that lens will always consider your art to be bad. Spending a long time thinking that your art is bad leads to frustration.

Instead, drawing for it's own sake and doing it for the sake of your own personal enjoyment is what will truly keep you going. Don't worry about other people and just keep doing it because it is fun.

Don't stop drawing.

>> No.5059127

>>5058560

I see my dog as a daughter in a way. The years went by so fast and when that faithful day happens I don’t know how I would cope. I’ve had several dogs growing up but I never witnessed them dying because my parents just abandon them when they get older.

>> No.5059134

>>5059034
>Figure Drawing: Design and Invention

>> No.5059137

>>5059066
It may be stormy now, but it never rains forever

>> No.5059154

>>5059137
My life is over. I have done my duty by my family and my kind and by my adopted race. I am now a harmless, meaningless husk whose time upon the planet has passed. I have nothing to live for. The sun is too bright, the flowers are too sweet, the music of the spheres is too lovely, and the dreams of the future are too absurd to think about. I will die soon and without pain or regret.

>> No.5059181

My art skills are slowly degrading, I can't do half of what I could do at the beginning of the year. It hurts like hell but I feel like there's no point keeping it alive.

>> No.5059371

>>5058338
Your drawings are boring.

>> No.5059414

my mom is such a nosey bitch

>> No.5059445

I literally just feel awful all the time now. I know I’m improving and getting better, but I’m so inconsistent. I’ve never been about the art grind but I became addicted to drawing. I feel miserable when I don’t draw. I’ve drawn all my life and I’m still awful, I feel horrible all the time when I’m not drawing. I hate finished products but I fucking love working on it because it’s so cathartic. But with seasonal depression being the worst it’s ever been I just want to kms before I even fool myself into thinking I can get an art job outside of freelance. This is my only skill. I regret it immensely. God I want a break so fucking bad.

>> No.5059446

>>5059126
not op, but thanks anon

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5059447

>delete the video that an artist I admire says my name and follows me
WHAT THE FUCK curse my speedy fingers now there is NEVER no way to get it back FUCK I should have paused and think what I was doing

>> No.5059465

I want to do more commission work because I need the money but I always feel so much self-doubt because I think my art isn't good enough for what's being paid for and it makes creating commissions not very fun.

>> No.5059478

>>5056817
>>5056197
>Can't afford art school so I can't get an art job.
In fact you don't want art school. Most of them suck. And you probably don't have the skill to find the good ones. If there are any good around you at all. Just start drawing during lunch breaks and at home. You don't need more than a ball pen or a pencil and printer paper.
Yes it will take more months/years to get good than if you were devoting all your time to drawing but it will also prevent you from burning out as you'll use art partially to relax. I personally really like to just doodle something during lunch and then get some studies in the evening. And I work in a fucking warehouse.

>> No.5059487
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5059487

Are suicidal thoughts "normal"?
Is having a reliable method ready "normal"?
Is feeling this way, when others have it worse, acceptable?

I've been fighting it the past 5 years and it feels like I'm losing

>> No.5059489

>draw for 15 minutes
>tired out
ngmi

>> No.5059491

How do I get my hands to stop hurting when drawing for extended periods? Do I just get a bigger monitor or tablet?

>> No.5059499

>>5059491
Eat more supplements

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5059510

>>5059491
do stretches

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5059532

FREE HONG KONG. FUCK THE CCP

>> No.5059537

>>5059447
Make them fanart.

>> No.5059560

>>5059487
It only takes 5 minutes to hang yourself

>> No.5059580

>>5059487
Depression is a vicious circle. You feel down and don't want to do anything, and then you feel even worse because you are not doing anything. And you kinda loop in it without end. I'm not probably the best man to talk about it and I never had it as bad as you - my record is two years of just shutting down and moving on automatic responses more or less.
Problem is acceptable has nothing to do with how you feel. You are trying to measure yourself by other people and it just doesn't work. Just simple biology between you and them is too different. Or for another example what happens if someone hits you? You feel pain right? For me it's a little different as years of doing karate changed my sense of pain and I do not register hits under a certain threshold as painful because the brain knows that they don't hinder me in the moment.
So someone having it worse from your point of view isn't always how they feel. Which is reliant on a shitton of other factors.

I don't know if you do but many people think that their depression is just something ephemeral and non-physical which is horribly wrong. Because it does affect your brain chemistry and even how your body is working. Five years is a lot to struggle with it. I really hope you talked to some medical specialists - sometimes the problem is mostly biological and can be dealt with through medication.

For me to break out it was mostly accepting what I like to do and stopping caring about what people think about me. I have work, even if it's shit, but it pays the bills, I'm slowly improving my drawing skills, step by step and day by day. Maybe in another 2-3 years I'll even be able to work on commissions and slowly move away from my work.
But I'm kinda an introverted retard with lowered emotional responses and almost non-existent ability to make attachments to people, so it wasn't hard to relegate most of them to "doesn't matter" folder, so I don't know if it will work for you.

>> No.5059609

>>5056575
Those dry sticks are useful. I was drying by sticking a towel inside the whole time. I splurged on a slightly expensive one this time and it was an amazing time.

>> No.5059626

I'm 26 and I dont know what kind of digital artist I am, and am about to give up entirely.

I've done everything from 2d to 3d, pin-up to animation, painting to vector, graphic design to illustration, commission work to project work, etc . And I can't seem to stick to one thing.

I see people, younger than me, able to pump out beautiful art full of character and emotion, when my work is bland, systematic, and worse yet often WRONG because I'm colorblind.

I try to pick a career to focus my efforts on, but everything seems to be a catch 22; horror stories upon horror stories about every industry I could potentially go into.

So why bother?

>> No.5059647

>>5059626
Nesskain, lead artist for overwatch and gay furry, is also colorblind. Now drop down and give me 20

>> No.5059654

My drawings are accurate, but not beautiful...

>> No.5059668

>>5059447
You can use a recovery program and try to undelete it

>> No.5059687

I’m redoing things I did in fucking middle school. It hurts so much how I could have long been good at what I’m doing already.

>> No.5059694

>>5059687
Actually to put in in another perspective I wasn’t serious when I was in middle school. So it’s all good.

>> No.5059725

i swear to god talking to other artists is the most tilting thing
just exchanging pleasantries for a couple lines and if i ever get a coherent thought going and say 3 lines i get ghosted for that day
just gotta cut everyone out and just draw 4head

>> No.5059729

>>5059127
>my parents just abandon them when they get older.
This is kind of just as heartbreaking.

>> No.5059732

>>5059725
>exchanging pleasantries
This is annoying and meaningless when several people start doing it to you daily.

>> No.5059745

>>5059729

There is something even worse than that but that’s tmi for online disclosure.

>> No.5059763

Why is my cock so large? Why am i so good at drawing? Whats the point of going on

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>>5056044
today i didnt sperg out in public

>> No.5059770

>>5059745
>tmi
What

>> No.5059813

>>5059770
My dad was very cruel to my first dog. He would beat him with a belt, throw chairs at him, make him sleep inside a cage behind a shed when he has the entire backyard for himself all because he doesn’t want the dog to touch his garden. He still has his plants till this day that he carried from house to house to apartment. I don’t get his fixation with plants. My first dog had a sore on its back and he refused to treat it saying that “he was born with the sore” and that flea meds are oh so expensive. He lived with that sore until the day I never saw him again. At one point the dog became so unstable I remember one time I walked him outside and he would drink the rain water nonstop.

I tried to pull him away but he barked at me unlike anything I have ever experienced before. Like I was a total stranger. He barked, paused, and stared at me for a good 3 seconds. Then turned around and kept drinking. I let him drink until he was satisfied. I realized at that point my dad wasn’t even giving him enough water. We kept him caged in a garage all day, all night, everyday. He wasn’t allowed to walk around in the garage even though there were no cars inside. The only time he was allowed to go outside was when I had to walk him.

Walk? By the way I was allowed to walk past our house as a kid because “boogieman kidnapper”. That all stopped when I turned 15 or so. So by walk it was basically walk around in front of the house or back until the dog took a shit. Then it’s back in the cage. The last I heard from my first dog was that my dad said he attacked a lady and her dog and had to give him up to the aspca. I knew he suffered enough from that time I walked him on that rainy day. My dad is my dad but he can be a total piece of shit.

>> No.5059830

>>5059813
Your dad sounds completely devoid of empathy. No dog deserves that. Being euthanized was probably a gift for the dog.

>> No.5059838

>>5059830
I would say the same. I fear at one point when I eventually move out he will start doing similar things to my current dog but if I take her with me I’ll experience the pain of her dying while living alone.

>> No.5059870

>>5059838
I'd take her with you and enjoy the time spent while you can. Dogs are great companions but death is just an unfortunate part of life. Losing a dog sucks, but I think leaving her alone with your dad would feel worse if he reverted.

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>>5059813
>He barked, paused, and stared at me for a good 3 seconds. Then turned around and kept drinking.
Damn, the small joy from drinking that rain water was probably the short period of time where he could forget all the neglect and suffering and just be nature's animal again. Poor boy

>> No.5060219

>>5059813
Your dad should be shot in Minecraft desu

>> No.5060224

>>5060219
You don’t need to add the in Minecraft part here, unless you’re a eurocuck I guess

>> No.5060252

I will never be a real woman... hrt... bottom surgery... my life is ruined.

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5060257

Nothing inspires me

>> No.5060313
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5060313

I just want to be the one you love... I’ve lost all ambition

>> No.5060378

>>5059487
As a survivor of suicide, and a battler of these thought at almost every turn of life that goes wrong, don't give in.
I've met so many people with depression and suicidal thoughts, and all vary in what is given to them in life. Some have had horrible family lifes, others have technically been born into great fortune. But they share the same thoughts of self harm.
I'm going to tell you this once, anon
If you ever
EVER
have the intention of killing yourself, do NOT fucking do it. If you feel so unsafe to yourself, please go to your nearest hospital and just ask for being admitted to be treated. It sounds harsh, but speaking from experience it doesn't matter if you have it objectively 'better' than others, your feelings are valid, despite the edgy self loathing belligerent ghouls on the internet.
They (the hospital, I mean) will be slow as fuck, especially in-patiant, but they will help with coping with these thoughts you have.
Please anon, people do love you, man.
Never give up, and keep grinding on your art. Who knows, maybe you'll find your meaning that'll keep you away from these dangerous ideas.

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>>5060313

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>>5060252
embrace your inner manhood. It is fighting to express itself within you.

>> No.5060389

>>5059487
>I've been fighting it the past 5 years
rookie numbers my son

>> No.5060455

>>5059487
Killing yourself is stupid, anon. We're all gonna die anyways, might as have fun. You literally never know whats in store for you

>> No.5060470
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5060470

why the fuck did I waste my whole life drawing when I could've been developing skills that would actually benefit me in the real world. I want a do-over where I actually grind something of use. trauma fucked me up so bad.

>> No.5060482

>>5056044
I'm fairly satisfied with drawing porn and thankful for the vastly underskilled market that can allow people to rake in six figures by updating daily.
No complaints really.

>> No.5060491

>>5058117
Was just feeling that way anon. It's known in psychology as "defectiveness" and it can take on many forms - feeling like a social retard, a mentally unstable retard, a physically incapable retard, etc etc etc.

Try to see that your flaws don't define you. Are they flaws relative to you as a human being, or are they flaws relative to their topic - someone who is a social autist vs a whole perfect human being who simply also has difficulty in social situations. It's difficult to explain, but feeling (not just thinking) that separation between your worth and that perceived flaw is how you get over it. Good luck.

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5060492

>>5060252
not with that attitude. Do it, and be on the right side of history.

>> No.5060502

>>5060492
Imagine if science got to the point where we could switch between genders day to day with the flip of a switch

>> No.5060519

>>5056044
I had an online friend I used to dm a bit but he suddenly dropped off the map. Deleted all his socials and left the discord server. I keep wondering if he’s okay but there’s no way to know anymore.

>> No.5060538

>>5060502
there would be no justifiable reason to be a man and humanity would go extinct

>> No.5060555
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5060555

Seeing people alive today who shit out pieces that would take you months to finish every day who like the niche things I like and just do it way better because they’re hype talented hyper trained chinks makes me almost want to stop drawing forever and flip burgers. Or better yet just kill myself to run from the guilt of my pathetic and truly disgusting existence.

It’s especially bad because nobody likes my stuff. I’ve been at it for 5+ years. My 22nd birthday is coming up and I don’t know if I can face it

>> No.5060562

>>5058329
Been drawing for longer than you have and I’m barely that level. Keep it up

>> No.5060574

>>5060519
I'm pretty sure everyone's had this happen at some point. It sucks, but Efriends are fickle anon, even the things that seem to have potential. Probably because it's hard to relate without seeing and hearing them to know how to judge the other person at any given point. And not many have the patience (or time) to sift through that. Or fortitude in some cases.
It's best to hang on loosely and all that. (And try not to let it bother you)

>> No.5060584

>>5060538
It won't reach that point but repeat the same mistake Rome did during their fall.
But unlike rome we got nukes so you're probably right about extinction

>> No.5060585

>>5060555
They're fast because they're drawing the same things over and over again for years. You need to focus on just one particular niche so you don't have to relearn things constantly

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>>5059813
That's just tragic. Holy fuck that poor dog.
Your dad sounds like an autistic psycho devoid of any empathy. If he treated his pets like this I'd hate to imagine how he treated his family and friends.

>> No.5060592

>>5060584
Not everyone can get sold to BTS

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>>5056044
It's been a month since i bought a sketch book,i still lack inspiration

>> No.5060627

i think i will kill myself soon i feel so completely worthless

>> No.5060628
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5060628

i can't draw shit from imagination, it's jist a matter of time till my followers get aware of that and i'm gonna be FUCKING screwed.

>> No.5060632

>>5060628
Why the fuck would they care? Followers just want to see a final product. As long as you aren't flat out tracing.

>> No.5060638

>>5056466
yeah but why would that mean you can't draw

>> No.5060639

>>5056878
you matter

>> No.5060645

>>5060627
Why do you keep fighting it?
There's nothing wrong with being worthless.
Flowers are worthless but nobody questions their existence.

>> No.5060656

>>5060645
I love this analogy. Beautiful flowers. They say not even Solomon was decorated as beautifully as the lilies of the pond, yet they are thrown into the fire just as quickly as they sprouted. That is to say, being beautiful ain’t easy yo

>>5060627
Be beautiful in your own way. Just eat, drink, and enjoy your work. The only situation where you should kill yourself is if you’ve gone blind, deaf, mute, and a quadruple amputee. Until you get there, there’s always something more to do.

>> No.5060661

will adderall make me learn art better and make bigger gains ?

>> No.5060662
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5060662

>>5060627
Flowers for you anon

>> No.5060663

>>5060645
stupid pleasantries that mean nothing
this is why people are okay with being depressed

>> No.5060670

>>5060627
No one is worthless anon, no one. Try to find the things in life that you can scrape off the dirt of the world to enjoy. Or better yet, the things that don't need scraping. The things that your subconscious absolutely can't detract from. They are infinite, but the absolute best in my mind is this one:
"No one is useless in this world who lightens the load of another." - Charles Dickens
It's the best one, because it exercises all the right neurons to increase your capacity for happiness and fulfillment in life. And doing it for someone else also has the convenience of superseding however you may feel about yourself.
Build those neural pathways, whether it's an anon here, someone you know irl, or just out of the blue random.
Because I may not know you, but if I did, I would want you there to enjoy every bit of life and more.

>> No.5060671

>>5060663
All is meaningless
Depression is just a lack of presence, usually coupled with grief of some kind.

>> No.5060672

>>5060663
Stupid pleasantries aren't.

>> No.5060674

thanks for all the replies but really im worthless im a neet and im shit at art as well and i have no friends or anything. i tried to kill myself last year and shouldve finishes the job. it all feels so meaningless and the world would be better off without me in it

>> No.5060676

>>5060656
Beauty isn't the point, its about being merely an expression of nature.
Like nature, our only obligation is to grow.
That is all.

>> No.5060683

>>5060674
Rip. Theoretically the world is worse off without you, but if you want to go to Brazil that badly...

>> No.5060684

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE_Dt6aPAq4

>> No.5060691

>>5060683
I think Brazil is worse than we thought. A former brazilian classmate of mine rather be a whore than return to her country. Last I heard she was still in the states and married some minimum wage dude.

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>>5060691
Ehh, depends. Sometimes a downgrade can be beneficial to help change the ways we think about things
She says that, but I'm sure if she fought for water in the streets for a month or two she'd learn to appreciate the battles and hardship of Brazil and maybe even find a Stronger Alpha Male who will give her better children than that minimum wage dude.
Living on the edge of poverty and death might be funnier than living in some polite and organized country like Japan.
It's hard to think of suicide when you're worried about things outside of yourself.

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>>5060691
Ehh, depends. Sometimes a downgrade can be beneficial to help change the ways we think about things
She says that, but I'm sure if she fought for water in the streets for a month or two she'd learn to appreciate the battles and hardship of Brazil and maybe even find a Stronger Alpha Male who will give her better children than that minimum wage dude.
Living on the edge of poverty and death might be funnier than living in some polite and organized country like Japan.
It's hard to think of suicide when you're worried about things outside of yourself.

>> No.5060743

>>5060628
desu I've accepted that I'll always need refs, but the internet is full of infinite resources so I don't sweat over not having the information in my brain
spend more time drawing exactly what you want using refs as a way of practicing instead of practicing just to practice
as long as you have internet, you have power
use it

>> No.5060761

>think about buying a screen tablet because I felt for the bad chinese brand meme
>people here tell me that a screenless tablet is better
>end up doing nothing

Also I got better at drawing robots and vehicules but now drawing humans and animals looks a lot harder.

>> No.5060827

Seriously if you 25 years old virgin and masturbating to porn, it will gives deadly fucking depressed feeling so d9n't do that

>> No.5060834

>>5060827
But if I don't fap ugly 2/10 women become 8/10 and over and I betray my waifu. I must remain in the 2D realm.

>> No.5060894

Should I be allowed to draw porn if I'm a 24yo virgin?

>> No.5060952

I miss the time when I wasn't as dumb.

>> No.5061042

>>5060761
What did you do to get better at robots and vehicles?

>> No.5061052

>>5060894
You fit in.

>> No.5061077

>cut my beard clean yesterday, soft like an anime girl breast
>it's already spiky as fuck today
WTF

>> No.5061085

>>5061042
I learn to draw Boxes/cylinders/ellipses,make rounded/bevelled forms and create complex forms with the scott robertson's approach.

>> No.5061122

I see no point in showing my art around anymore. I feel disgust for everyone and I don't want to share anything. I used to be driven by this will to share things. I still enjoy art but I don't put nearly as much effort or routine in it, and my skills are getting worse.

>> No.5061124

>>5061122
good

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>>5056044
MY MOM THREW AWAY ALL MY FUCKING BIONICLES IM GONNA FUCKING KMS!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!1

>> No.5061128

>>5061122

Post something already, faggot.

>> No.5061130

Is it normal to get likes on art on Twitter but no retweets? I don't mind either way because it still gets seen, but it just seems a little odd to me. I tried looking at the ratios between RTs/Likes/Follows but I couldn't find anything.

>> No.5061148

>>5061130

It depends on the fandom from what I noticed. But usually retweets are 1/3rd to your likes. Mainly because the normies who like your work don't want it seen on their tweet page vs those that do retweet particularly like the thing you drew. It's usually other artists who retweet while the likes are the general public.

>> No.5061171

>>5061128
why? like why do people post art?

>> No.5061218

>>5061171
Expression
Remixing
Returning the favor for others
Tribute to existing ideas
A call to action
Influencing a subgroup of people
Making a statement or proposal
Promotion of contents, projects, and oneself into a sphere
Propaganda
Shitposting visually
Social validation
Leaving an impression after death
potential paid practice
Opens new opportunities not limited to what’s online such as getting invited to big boy clubs like lightbox expo or handing out your work and goods at conventions

A few off the top of my head.

>> No.5061268

>>5061218
you just repeated validation and money a bunch of times

>> No.5061283

nobody will everl ove me and ill never make it

>> No.5061295

>>5061283
I love you, anon. I see you in my dreams.

>> No.5061311

>>5061268
Shitposting is the only pure reason to post art, untainted by hubris and greed.

>> No.5061313

>>5061268
ah...haha yeah I did, huh? Haha...ha...ha

Haha....

So when will you post something?

>> No.5061363

>>5061313
>>5061311
Why would I post something for the human garbage on this board, or anywhere else?

>> No.5061366

>>5061363
Eeh? I was looking forward to you posting. Oh well.

>> No.5061375

ever think about how you really have no reason to not kill yourself

>> No.5061381

>>5061375
no

>> No.5061388

I hate being limited by both resources and motivation.
Covid's a bitch man. (I don't have it, but it's really dragging me down)
I want to draw but, it's just a strange sense in the back of my head.
However, after seeing all this, I'll grind a bit, before continuing to draw.

>> No.5061398

>>5061388
it just gets harder as you get older so keep drawing now

>> No.5061504

>>5060555
8+ hour study habit really does benefit them

>> No.5061507

>>5061388
>limited resources
Holy fucking excuse. You're on the internet with unlimited resources AND on /ic/ where you can get hundreds of courses and books FREE

>> No.5061515

>>5061504
how do you get that habit

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>>5061515
Just do it, faggot

>> No.5061524

>>5061515
sorry you have to be Asian to do that anon

>> No.5061578

>>5061375
But I have. I want to live long enough to see you all die. If I could dance on your graves it's even better.

>> No.5061581

>>5061515
You build it up slowly over time. Each day you try to draw a little more. Hell, put a timer and add 1 minute each day to your drawing time.

>> No.5061584

I sad. my art will never amount to anything.

>> No.5061586

>>5061507
maybe he doesn't want to steal like a nigger?

>> No.5061590

>>5061586
So buy them niiiiigggaa. Defend your bitch boy more

>> No.5061603

>>5061584
You’re pissing me off now. And the rest of you, too. You know who you are.

>> No.5061607

>>5056466
Suck you can't listen to stuff and draw, but sometimes the cause too much distraction anyways.
Why are you going deaf?

>> No.5061682

>>5061584
not even good artists have worthwhile art

>> No.5061693

>>5061603
I sorry, I only dropped by for vent. I'm mostly sad cause some fucko hurt my heart. And then I bully my own art cause I can't cope. But I'm not too bad or degenerate, just not what I'd like to be yet. beg enough to be angry about it lol
>>5061682
Thanks man, that helps.

>> No.5061712

>>5061693
>I'm mostly sad cause some fucko hurt my heart
Who is he? I'll beat him up for you.

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5061729

>New layer
>drawing over the sketch
>fix a few things with the angles, perspective
>start detailing
>1 hr later
>"hide layer"
>sketch layer is better

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5061767

After 3 weeks and 2 days of pain and toil, Im finally finished crafting my watercolor sketchbook. Coptic binding is confusing as hell, but the end result is worth it, guys.
If you have time or are curious, look up tutorials for binding your own sketchbooks on Youtube.
Their are bookbinders kits for as low as 7$ on amazon with everything you need in them.
Just dont be OCD like me and go through a bazillian changes to make a fancy bookcover for your sketchbook. Thats wasted the bulk of my time. (The binding itself took 2 days.) Just use cardboard.
Im so happy cause I used some bigass sheets of paper by Canson to make my sketchbook signatures. Theyre all 9" x 12" pages now. None of that 4" x 6" stuff they try to sell you online for 50$.
Im stoked.

>> No.5061769

I've been a beginner for over 10 years.

>> No.5061799

>lose old pencil
>new one arrived today
>go to throw out packaging
>old pencil sitting on table right next to trashcan
Help, I'm trapped in a cliched plot.

>> No.5061819

>>5061799
I hope you mean apple pencil or something because why wouldn't you buy pencils in 5s or 10s?

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5061829

I live in a perpectual hell
>Need commissions to make money
>Commissions makes me hate drawing because of the shit I need to slap together in like a day for these retards
>Makes it worse as I keep drifting off to thinking of other things I'd much rather do like making 3D models, animation, etc.
>Tired of doing commissions as a result, to the point it's even effecting me wanting to draw anything for myself at all
>Get told not to draw for money, aka become a wagey
>Implying that will give me out of this mess when working 9 to 5 won't just replace the same cancerous grind
>Which ends up making me tired and unable to draw for myself, repeating the same problem
>Goes back to just coping doing commissions
>Moods shift again
>Raise and repeat
How the ever living FUCK do these artists fucking live like this? How can they make it doing this shit yet make 30K per month and yet not burn themselves out? How the fuck do I get myself out of this hell?

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>>5061829
>have to work
>hell
I agree

>> No.5061873

>>5058329
the one on the right is sick

>> No.5061878

Can you really become a better artist just by "just draw" for a couple of years?

>> No.5061879

>>5061819
mechanical.

>> No.5061885

>>5061878
Yes, but you might improve faster by actually analyzing your weak points.

>> No.5061912

>>5061829
>How can they make it doing this shit yet make 30K per month and yet not burn themselves out?
They just treat it like a job. That's it. These people don't actually like art or have any aspirations as to what art should be for them, none of their identity goes into art, so they can mindlessly draw whatever and think of it as a comfy 9 to 5 job.
This system just tells people "if you have a soul, get out", both in art, in life, in jobs, in your sex life, in everything. If you are not a complete bugman you are pushed out of the picture or you eventually break and adapt.

>> No.5061942

>>5061712
He's not even worth harming. Just another pathetic plebeian that will always be empty and die alone. I appreciate your offer, thanks pal.

>> No.5061947

>>5061912
Woah dude. Reality slaps.
>>5061769
Join the club.
>>5061767
Congratulations! That's a good feeling. Thanks for the tips.
>>5061729
Keep trying.

>> No.5061949

>>5061942

Is that what you think of me? Hmmm?

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5061967

Apologies, >>5059487 was also me.
Somehow I didn't consider my hearing and suicidal thoughts related. It's clear to me now they are.
I've spoken to my doctor, according to him I could qualify for financial aid for disability and receive a monthly stipend. It's not much but I could live on it if I stay with my parents.
My family has been supportive, so much so I really don't know what to do.
Always wanted to go to an art school after quitting my job but the way my hearing is right now I don't think I could study

>>5056473
>>5061607
SNHL (neural), genetic but we don't know if it's a recessive gene or a mutation (my siblings have perfect hearing).
Mine has been degrading since I was 14-16 probably, I'm 23 now.
>>5056502
I won't hold my hopes up, retrocochlear treatment has seen no progress.
>>5059580
Thanks for the detailed response anon.
> trying to measure yourself by other people
Some what related >>5057017 I've known a blind guy and have no idea how he can stand to live, but your point makes sense in that I shouldn't compare
>I'm kinda an introverted... if it will work for you.
I relate to that pretty hard, reflecting I find it hard to open up and trust the way others seem to.
>>5060378
Lost access to my method, so I'll fight it until I'm dead or it kills me.
I'm curious how good (or mediocre) my art will become, so it keeps me going.

>> No.5061975

>>5061967
losing your hearing could heighten your visual sensibilities like some matt murdock shit. gmi confirmed

>> No.5061980

There are two little cramps in my back that I can't stretch out no matter what I do. Ahhh!!!

>> No.5061995

Nothing really matters anymore.

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>>5056817
>>5059478


I actually don't believe you.

I have improved a bunch on my own but there are limits. Artists who get jobs in the industry right out of college are not just smarter or naturally talented or something. They got 4 years on concentrated training from experts. We can not operate at their level and the older we get the worse we become at learning.

My art is way better than normies because I actually try. Most of my friends haven't even tried to draw anything since they were forced to in art class in jr. high 20 years ago.

but even still, i find my own skill level embarrassing. i am not proud of this. it is not what i want to be attaching my name to. it is not my style. if someone else drew the way i draw i wouldnt like or bookmark it on any websites. i don't find anything i've made creative or innovative or even aesthetically pleasing.i don't like the way i draw faces, my line quality, i have no idea how to render, and i don't have the skill nor the patience to do anything with backgrounds.

my perspective is not perfect but its probably what im best at because i started out drawing cars.im very technical like an industrial designer and i never really learned gesture so when i draw people they are very stiff, and unappealing imo.

the whole reason i drew this at all was to try my absolute best to get an emotional expression on a face. i did my best with references and in the end it still looks completely emotionless.

i need a real teacher or else it will take decades to get good.

>> No.5062003

boohoo im sad because i cant draw waaaaah

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>>5061967
>Lost access to my method, so I'll fight it until I'm dead or it kills me.
Fight the good fight, brotha

>> No.5062065

>>5061998
Your drawing doesn't have soul.
It looks stiff because it doesn't tell a story, it is simply a generic drawing.
Remember the "about to".
About to - draw characters that are about to doing something instead of drawing the completed action. (like your shitty drawing you negro)

>> No.5062070

>>5062065
also what the fuck is wrong with his clothes? Is he supposed to be a clown? All those decorations don't tell me me a story.

>> No.5062071

>>5061998
>jr. high 20 years ago.
how old art thou oh ancient one?

>> No.5062074

doing things is hard

>> No.5062080

>>5062074
Your mom wasn’t that difficult

>> No.5062081

>>5062080
I live with two dads.

>> No.5062087

none of my friends take art seriously can somebody plsplspls be my art study buddy

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5062090

know what i typed up a big fucking sob story but I'm gonna just go ahead and get back to working through the art books and exercises I got from here. fuck it.

>> No.5062091

>>5062090
can you be my friend

>> No.5062093

>>5061586
It's either he doesn't buy it or he steals it; in the end both don't benefit the creator so I see no reason not to steal it.

>> No.5062104

>>5062081

I know. That doesn’t mean you were born from a man.

>> No.5062109

>>5062003
This but unironically

>> No.5062116

lotus#7217
I HAVE NO FRIENDS

>> No.5062126

>>5062116
Sorry kid, I don’t believe in friends anymore. Especially art friends. This is a competitive field and the weak are destined to never make it into the gate of pro.

>> No.5062132

Oh shit, the concept of valuing your time. I totally forgot about that.

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>>5061949
Lol if this really is fucko boy then you're even more of a sad excuse for a human being than I thought. Following me onto my anonymous forum because you know you lost the best thing that will ever happen to you in your worthless existence? Yeah. It is.

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5062153

>>5062142

You’re cute. I’m not following you, our hears are just connected.

>> No.5062156

>>5062153
Hearts*

>> No.5062188

>>5062153
Lol gross

>> No.5062227

>>5062188
ilu (-:

>> No.5062234

>>5062116
Can you be my friend?

>> No.5062240

>>5062234
no

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5062254

Can you stop? It's just sad.

>> No.5062255

>>5062254

who are you talking to

>> No.5062257

>>5062255
The reading this

>> No.5062263

>>5062257

huh?

>> No.5062264

>>5062234
Yes
Add me

>> No.5062266

>>5056044
just took my first sexy com wish me luck anons im really nervous

>> No.5062273

spit it out already

>> No.5062277

>>5062273
I love you.

>> No.5062280

>>5062277
v`ff`xffxfff c,kl cjkjkxcf,jk vc, iwsasnt esxpenting you to say it so soon

>> No.5062283

but okay, I love you too.

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5062290

>this thread
>mfw

>> No.5062331

>>5061947
>Congratulations! That's a good feeling
Thanks, anon!

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>>5062273
No, I don't think I will, not like this.
You can't kill me. I am simply not worth the effort

>> No.5062839

I hate being tired, so fucking sluggish. I regret staying up when I was much younger

>> No.5062852

>>5062458
At least I got you to budge just a tiny little.

>> No.5062878

I realized a lot of time is wasted in the morning on one task that drawing in the morning instead would reach me to 3 hours daily easy instead of starting with the other task.

>> No.5062885

>>5061829
Get an "office"(some other place in your house) to do your commissions in so it feels separate from your other stuff. Sounds bullshit but it works.

>> No.5062890 [DELETED] 

>>5061998
you don't need a teacher, plenty of people break into the industry without teachers or school, just get critiques. How often do you get critiques? also do figure studies, use anatomy reference, and study lighting, all things you can do right now to improve.

>> No.5062901

>>5061998
you don't need a teacher, plenty of people break into the industry without teachers or school, just get critiques. How often do you get critiques? also do figure studies, use anatomy reference, and study lighting, if you like for example an anime's lighting emulate it, use reference of actual singers and you'll get a better pose/camera angle, that will help a ton trust me, all things you can do right now to improve.

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>>5062852
You weird asf for this shit chigger

>> No.5062914

>>5062905
Why? It's only natural that I care about you.

>> No.5062918

For hwat porpose thise

>> No.5062950

I had a panic attack that my google account was nuked by google themselves but it seems that everything is down?

>> No.5063000

>>5062914
WHAT

>> No.5063004

>>5063000

Is that wrong?

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>>5063004
I don't exist. There's nothing to kill and even less to care about.
Right or wrong... My existence is beyond this. *Tips fedora*
Caring should be reserved for dreams.

>> No.5063040

my friend is a shizo who vents on twitter every single day

>> No.5063045

>>5063027
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPlFLtWDwM

>> No.5063058

Holy fuck I hit my head on the monitor above me and I suddenly gained new powers in drawing. WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKK I can DRAW NOW

>> No.5063062

holy SHHHHHHHHHITTTTTTTTT Thank you GOD for allowing me to hit my head that hard!!!!

THANK YOU ! THANK YOU! !!!!

>> No.5063153

>>5058361

Not only are they more talented, but also more patient and reasonable.

Your biggest handicap is your childish mindset, friend. 4 months is nothing, you could make it if you put in about 1000x more effort/time.

>> No.5063329

>>5063062
The effect worn off. Sigh.

>> No.5063332

Where did you go? You died again...

>> No.5063704

This world feels like it was tailor made to be the worst possible world for me specifically. I lived my entire life thanks to a few concepts and these concepts are now antithetical to the world as it is in my adult years. Everything I valued is permanently extinct or on its way to be permanently extinct, all the things I care are beyond my control and all the things I want are beyond my reach, not because of personal shortcomings but because of the absolute state of reality. At the same time literally everything that the world is made of feels like an assault on my senses, the things that are normal parts of modern life feel like a violence upon me.
This is the worst possible world I could have been born in, and that fact I was born just in the right time to be promised exactly what I wanted only to have the exact opposite, knowing that I missed the mark to salvation by 5 or 6 years is so immeasurably cruel it almost makes me think there's an intelligent design behind it. I can't think of a way I could be more royally fucked other than being granted a ticket to the life I wanted and starting to work on it in total bliss only to slip on a banana peel while holding a box of pencils and getting my eyes stabbed out.
Why the fuck did I have to be born to live my best years in the era of social media, phones, porn, anime, why

>> No.5063723

I love you and I am sorry I was so mean to you.

>> No.5063848

>>5057768
Try not being obese.

>> No.5064011

>>5063723
Nigga, you think you Princess Celestia or some shit?

>> No.5064033

>>5064011
No but I wanna mature into a fully fledged purinsesu and marry a beautiful prince named kanata of the hope kingdom and we live happily ever after and raise 6 healthy kodomos but but but buuuut I’m a boy, you know? I can’t really be a princess.

>> No.5064157

>>5064033
Ehhh? Thats such a kawaii dream //>_<//

>> No.5064189

>>5064157
Yeah! My art best friend in the whole wide sekai is my prince so, haha, it’s not far far off from a dream? Heheh...he’s just always super far away but

But but our hearts are always connected.

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>>5064189
I don't believe in metaphysics and you sound a little delusional
I only support you because Your trans

>> No.5064285

>>5064223
Eeh? I have more to tell you but my head hurts really bad. Maybe it’s from thinking about you all day today. I’m going to bed, goodnight.

>> No.5064376

>>5064285
Unstoppable force vs Immovable object

>> No.5065112

>>5059626
the artist from helltaker is colorblind too dumbass
literally a non issue