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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous thread: >>5043706


https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B8VO-JQCy3HgelpRajdPY3RSXzg?amp;usp=sharing&;tid=0B8VO-JQCy3HgZ0U3QkVvVm4wREE

>> No.5047315
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5047315

I’m a retard can someone explain perspective to me

Like I get how it applies to boxes, you can draw them in one point perspective, two point perspective, and three point perspective, but how do you do perspective when you draw more complex shapes like a person? A person doesn't just have 4 edges and it fucks up my brain to think about it

>> No.5047317
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5047317

I finished this thing. Thanks to the anon who helped me a bunch. How'd I do?

I think im getting tired of doing such boring poses and camera angles(?). I want to start doing images with more interesting poses/angles/perspectives. Front view shot like this looks so boring compared to other work that I see. Anyone have advice on how to practice so I can develop these skills? Would it be more gesture drawing and perspective experiments?

>> No.5047322

Should a beg be trying to make finished pieces or just do exercises and form gestures and stuff

>> No.5047330

>>5047322
Both, I'd say.
Grind fundies, and try to apply that new knowledge to finished pieces. Draw it, learn from your mistakes, study what you failed the hardest on, rinse and repeat. Slow but steady progress

>> No.5047329

>>5047322
you should be doing studies

>> No.5047333
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5047333

Is this gesture drawing or am i just making retard scribbles?

>> No.5047334
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5047334

>>5047315
literally 3 seconds of googling "3d perspective construction human figure" holy fuck like how did you even get past the captcha in order to post this

>>5047322
do mostly practice with an "attempt" at a finished picture every now and then. dont get bogged down in trying to painstakingly work for weeks on the same picture, but dont practice in isolation from what you are going to apply your skill to either.

>> No.5047357
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5047357

You guys didn’t think you’d go a whole weekend without me, did you?

>> No.5047363

>>5047315
You're not getting perspective explained well in this thread. You need to do your research and seriously study it
>>5047322
Both

>> No.5047365

>>5047322
Do both, if you have imagination you can do finished pieces and stop to learn what you need as you go on, otherwise do studies and then apply what you learn

>> No.5047370

>>5047333
You're doing too many strokes just for gesture. Stop trying to be artsy and make more conscious strokes

>> No.5047379
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5047379

>>5047370
most of the inside strokes were me trying to find the landmarks that michael hampton describes after the gesture was put down. Unless you dont mean those ones around the chests and groins. This is another of the same warmup where I didn't try to do that. Is it still too many lines? Should the limbs be less defined? I do feel like I'm drawing the shape too much. Thanks for replying with meaningful criticism anon

>> No.5047395 [DELETED] 

How many resources for learning art should you use at one time? And how do you balance them along with doing studies and creating original pieces?

>> No.5047402

>>5047379
Okay so look at your drawing and ask yourself if your able to tell what the figure is doing, or how they're posed and if it has flow. Would you be able to build ontop of that to draw a completed figure? If so then it works for you. Personally it's not resonating with me and I would have a very hard time working with gesture drawn like that

>> No.5047405

>>5047402
thank you anon I think you are right. I'll keep at it.

>> No.5047411

Can I just go straight to learning the human figure and supplement essential stuff like Observation and Sight and Perspective along the way or do I have to go step by step?

>> No.5047420

>>5047395
>>5047411
Draw

>> No.5047425

>>5047411
learn gesture, anatomy (to understand bumps) and find a course to download

>> No.5047459
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5047459

>>5047357
“Inked” and colored. Still suck at this. The only way my inks are tolerable is when I do this “still kind of a sketch” shit.

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5047508

It makes me upsetti when I post sometimes and some people say not beg when I draw almost everything like dumb dumb with no fundies

>> No.5047520

So I tried a charcoal pencil today and the marks are wonderfully dark but the feeling/noise of drawing with it is like nails on a chalkboard. What do?

>> No.5047523

>>5047508
Well your studies aren't /beg/, applying what you learn is though

>> No.5047529
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5047529

>>5047459
I feel like I can control the line better with this brush.

>> No.5047534

>do one drawbox exercise
>already burnt out

>> No.5047535
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>> No.5047545
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>> No.5047550

>>5047534
>do a soulless exercise
>feel shit

oh gee i wonder where the problem lies

i need you to download 20 pictures of your favorite loli catgirl, open them in the software of your choice, and construct boxes around them. drawbox is SHIT dont do their exercises. read their material and invent your own practice

>> No.5047555

>>5047550
pyw

>> No.5047561

>>5047534
Woulda believed you if you actually posted your practice

>> No.5047565
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5047565

>>5047555
? i did not mean to come off rude. my point is that any boring exercise can be turned into something motivating, people just need to improvise and not blindly follow instructions just because they have been around for a long time.

>> No.5047568

>>5047565
Ignore him, he didnt draw shit today also that drawing can get you banned, I recommend deleting

>> No.5047570
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5047570

Thoughts? Some constructive criticism would be appreciated

>> No.5047571
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5047571

I SWEAR, MY PENCIL AND I ARE HAVING FUN TOGETHER.

>> No.5047572

>>5047565
I didn’t mean to come off rude either, I just needed to see what results your training regimen would produce

>> No.5047576

>>5047570
Unappealing faces, expressions, anatomy and color. Did you photobash in the background too? I recommend starting with the basics before churning out sexual drawings

>> No.5047578

>>5047570
We meet again anon. LMAO.

>> No.5047580

>>5047576
Okay where can I learn the basics?

>>5047578
The draw threads are a shit show right now

>> No.5047581

>>5047570
Work on the fundementals. Trust me i draw only for hentai. Its much easier to learn the basics first

>> No.5047583

>>5047580
>where can I learn the basics
>>1579290

>> No.5047587
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5047587

>>5047561

>> No.5047590
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>>5047568
fuck me, thanks for the warning. i need to go back months to find a decent sfw picture of mine

>>5047572
oh i see

>> No.5047599

>>5047587
How tf do you get burnt out scribbling ellipses on paper that would take 2 minutes total

>> No.5047602

>>5047581
I see, did you at least like the subject matter of my drawing?

>> No.5047605

>>5047599
Ghosting the line of each ellipse trying to visualize it first, but getting the same results as scribbling it in 2 minutes anyway

>> No.5047606

>>5047605
feel dont think

>> No.5047608

>>5047370
retard

>> No.5047611

>>5047602
No one here likes people of that color

>> No.5047620

>>5047608
retard

>> No.5047621
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5047621

>>5047611
FeelsBadMang

>> No.5047629

>>5047602
Rude

>> No.5047833
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5047833

I'm not strictly speaking a beginner. I have been drawing for longer than you'd think looking at my work. But have never got the hang of appealing colours on limited colour pallets (or in general but I prefer only two or three colours). Any tips lads?

>> No.5047834

>>5047833
WAAAAAUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH MY EYES HURT!!!!

>> No.5047837
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5047837

>>5047834
I am colourblind but I can see how that is an issue

>> No.5047872
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5047872

I changed the leg because it was starting to bother me.

There's a lot more I could change but it's time to learn painting I think.

Lesson learnt though. Use gesture and anatomy refs at the sketching stage.

Would have saved me some hurt I think.

>> No.5047878

>>5047833
This one isn't too bad I think. It's a little harsh yes but that can work.

Also, Nathan Fowkes has some pretty good content on how to make more colorful images.

For example:

-Having a good variety of local colors
-Having a colored lightsource
-Secondary lightsources
-Making sure you have a temperature shift between light and shade
-Impressionnistic shading

>> No.5047880

>>5047878
what's a tempurature shift

>> No.5047892

>>5047315
https://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-sketching-environments-imagination/dp/1933492732
buy this book

>> No.5047896
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5047896

I started drawing 3 days ago. How do you even draw digits? Any advice would be appreciated.

>> No.5047897

>>5047896
Look at hands when you draw them.

>> No.5047898

>>5047322
definitely do both, but spend at least 50% of your time drawing for fun. if you focus exclusively on "getting better" you'll get burnt out because honestly, studies aren't any fun. we draw because it's fun, not to impress random people on the internet that probably hold deplorable views we don't respect.

still life is a meme, draw over your references and figure out how shit works. reference professional art, and never do photo references. take stills from video instead, especially when doing gestures in motion. preferably record your own videos, as you'll probably have a better feel of how to draw your own body. tracing is good for learning structure, just don't actually post it as if it was your own.
don't waste your time. you're not stupid, so don't do stupid shit like drawing loomis heads for 3 hours a day or whatever some jaded channer tells you

>> No.5047899

>>5047897
I do, but I'm really really skinny and have long fingers so my source material isn't exactly optimal.

>> No.5047946
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5047946

I tried doing the marc brunett guide on doing better colors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPeqyGig0vQ
It looks like shit, ow to I improve?
Are my values wrong?

>> No.5047965

>>5047946
The colors look good to me. You could try to work with a colored background and see how that affects the portrait.

The examples in that video look godawfull to me though. It's all way too gray. Doesn't look like skin at all

>> No.5048025
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5048025

I feel like I'm not getting gesture at all.

>> No.5048040
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5048040

Tried to move my traditional inking style to digital, how did I do?

>> No.5048042
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5048042

>>5048040
Bonus color version

>> No.5048058
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5048058

practice for today. i need to exaggerate the right one more

first day at work at my new job. feeling burnt out af. hope tomorrow will be better

>> No.5048059

>>5048040
>>5048042
i know its not meant to be 100% perfect but the fact the tracks are almost tyre shaped at the front and don't line up at the back is quite annoying.

the cannon is also a bit fucky

otherwise its cool

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5048066

>>5047282
Pretty happy with my progress

>> No.5048067

>>5048066
that is fucking scary

>> No.5048085

>>5047334
it's funny how if you rewrote the text in chinese and put a little krenz cushart signature in the corner people would fucking cum themselves and ask what this magical method is

>> No.5048100
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5048100

I accidentally posted after the last thread hit the bump limit. i’m just messily sketching this out and i’m not sure where to take it, any advice?

>> No.5048123

>>5048100
your head is a little weird, the skull should be a little bigger on the top. Also put a little more effort on the hand.

>> No.5048136

>>5047334
>draw the owl

>> No.5048158

>>5047282
>"this is how you grip a bbc kid"

whats wrong with proko?

>> No.5048162
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>> No.5048168

>>5048067
thanks anon. doing my best

>> No.5048169

>>5048162
anon do you have a question

>> No.5048176
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5048176

>>5047872
Bros

What the fuck am I doing it

>> No.5048184

>>5048123
thank you, i’m not sure if i want her to be holding something in her hand or what but i’m not going to just leave it like that.

>> No.5048251
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5048251

How the FUCK do I value. What am I doing wrong?

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5048292

>>5048162
I used this drawing as inspiration to create a sketch over it.
>>5048176
I think the arm that is pointed looks a little protruding on top.
also I think her jaws looks really strange and the mouth shouldn't be a line curving up.
goodluck anon

>> No.5048317
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5048317

Man, it's been 3 months and I feel I've barely improved.

>> No.5048326

>>5048317
its just the ups and down of learning to draw. Just got to keep grinding. Also you neck is a little long

>> No.5048330
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5048330

>>5048176
I thought I'd do a redline to explain what I mean

>> No.5048331
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5048331

Thoughts??? I'm starting from the left. Am I doing it right?

>> No.5048332

>>5047899

you need to get the form of a hand down before you think about details like length and size

>> No.5048333

>>5047459
>>5047529
Cool, anon

>> No.5048335

>>5048251
You're using too many values. Try working with just two values and be more accurate

>> No.5048338

>>5047357
Why did you sketch with red and green instead of black?

>> No.5048343

Anyone else here considering taking a few art courses at community college once coronavirus is over just for fun? Any courses you have taken and would or would not take again?

>> No.5048349

>>5048343
>once coronavirus is over
ummm....

>> No.5048352

>>5048343
Why would I when that costs money and there are courses online free/cheap

>> No.5048435
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5048435

I did a paint by numbers for fun and to get familiar with painting a little bit but not feel too invested or stressed about ruining it. I just wanted to share it with someone. It was indeed fun and relaxing to do. I have some second hand materials that aren't cardboard to practice on now so I will try out an original painting soon.

>> No.5048484
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5048484

It’s pizza day

>> No.5048496

>>5048435
My god that's comfy.

In 80 years time we'll be looking through the sketchbooks of great artists and they'll be filled with fucking wojacks and gondolas, though.

>> No.5048506

>>5048330
Thicc

>> No.5048514

>>5048331
The inscriptions on them say "In the days of . . . "

It is now several years since I have seen that writing.

>> No.5048525

>>5048435
saved, very comfy

>> No.5048584

>>5048484
Looks coom.

>> No.5048634

>>5048514
I'm not seeing any writing. I just want to get better at drawing

>> No.5048658

I want to draw porn. Should I go through the sticky and/or draw some other stuff for practice, or should I jump straight into drawing humans, anatomy and such?

>> No.5048668

>>5048658
drawing still objects helps your observation skill. It could help if you are just starting. I say just go over the sticky and find one of the beginner books and do the exercise in them. Once you get the hang of it you can focus on figure drawings and such.

>> No.5048676

>>5048658
I dove straight into humans and still improved a lot. You'll be fine as long as you keep drawing

>> No.5048688

>>5048658
Do both.

>> No.5048693
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5048693

>>5047620
>y-you're only allowed to use a few lines when you draw
meanwhile back in reality

>> No.5048706

>>5048693
Cringe. Which line are you gonna follow when you do the final inking?

>> No.5048719

>>5048693
Way different than anon's spastic chicken scratching.

>> No.5048730

>>5048706
the ones that describe the forms and anatomy which are the next part after the gesture
retard

>> No.5048742

>>5048634
You are not like other people.

I mean that you are a strange, unnatural person who was once asleep and has come back to life in a strange, unnatural world.

>> No.5048787

>>5048693
wew, it's almost like ol' villy was conscious about all those strokes

>> No.5048791
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5048791

Thoughts on my shading?

>> No.5048793

>>5048791
You have a lot of other things to worry about other than shading.

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5048794

>>5048791

>> No.5048796

>>5048791
Looks just as bad as before. The color scheme is reminiscent of feces

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5048801

>>5048706
It's already inked.

>> No.5048839

>>5048338
To keep track of what’s on which layer. For things that overlap (clothes, hair, an arm crossing over the body) I tend to do a different layer.

>> No.5048854

>>5047571
:( not even a “Ngmi” I’m not even worth a (you)

>> No.5048855

>>5048854
you are completely new anon

>> No.5048862

>>5048854
if you want a critique you have to ask, we can't read your mind when you make a post

>> No.5048865

>>5048839
Oh cool.

>>5048796
This lol. I thought she was shitting until I looked closely.

>>5048730
Sure thing bud

>> No.5048912

>>5048791
yes reddish browns, not yellowish browns.

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>>5048176

>> No.5048994
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Some sketches and studies I did today. Trying to do more dynamic and interesting stuff with foreshortening with some fun dumb stuff
>>5047317
Does no critique mean Im not bad enough to be given obvious critique or memed on, but not good enough to be given praise or crabbed? Kind of stuck in the forgettable middle "eh" ground and I just need to keep going?

>> No.5049014

>>5048994
it is probably closer to the middle ground, just keep on drawing and don't dwell on it too much.

>> No.5049020

>>5049014
Thats kind of what I assumed, thanks

>> No.5049115

>>5048994
Is >>5047317 yours?
The study you posted is not that bad, but the goblin thing you drew is pretty bad desu.

>> No.5049149

>>5049115
Yeah I drew both. Is it just that the goblin art is boring? Thats why Im trying to study cool poses and perspectives

>> No.5049160

>>5049149
>cool poses and perspectives
I'd say those are probably not your priorities right now anon.
overall form looks off.
Looking at your practices too, they don't look like chunks but 2 dimensional lines(?) if that makes sense.
I would say that some of it has to do with lack of line weight

>> No.5049189

>>5049160
Kind of weird. I have a good understanding of form and I did the whole dynamic sketching course. Is it because Im sketching with hard round brush with 50% opacity maybe? Or that I dont add shadows when i sketch. I don't really see the flatness you say

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5049214

>>5048176
untrannyfied

>> No.5049224
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5049224

I know it's not finished, but I was wondering is it worth even trying? I mean, I was trying to render some skin and everything, (obv still really bad at it) but I think with this kind of style it will never come out good, idk. Btw I should probably post this with the lineart too

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5049227

>>5047317
"Fan art". Just draw more, and it will click. Trust me.

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5049230

Today's figure studies. I'm not entirely sure how to approach them. Normally I have human photocopier tendencies but I tried to exaggerate more this time.
But then I feel like I don't really know enough about anatomy to do it well and then they look all fucked up.

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5049232

>>5049224
Here the same, but with lineart (opacity reduced)

>> No.5049236

>>5044589

>> No.5049242

>>5047317
Gesture, perspective, and practising drawing volumes, not contours.

>> No.5049255

>>5049227
Damn that looks cool.

>> No.5049260

>>5049227
is that a penis

>> No.5049266

>>5049232
it's always worth it to finish a piece as long as you learn from it

>> No.5049269
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5049269

>>5049230
Very nice. I think a nice way to break copier tendencies is to look at the figure for a minute or so and then try to draw it from memory. Look up to the reference only when you're completely stuck and have no idea what to next.
---
My today's practice (one of many). I recognized I tend to copy stuff from refs too much and don't feel the form or analyze the figures as I draw. So I'm trying to rely more on construction from shapes and remember Vilppu's teachings.

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5049276

>>5049242
>>5049227
>>5049115
I think I'm going to stop posting my work for a month or two and just draw a bunch everyday (unless I have questions)
Thanks guys

>> No.5049283
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5049283

How do I build the mental stamina to engage more and try to perfect things further? Especially in a situation where what you're making isn't so well defined. When you're just winging shit without any reference or following any process, how do you figure out when it's 'done'?

For some context, I've been making surrealistic typically high symmetry monochrome stuff like pic related for a bit now, sort of as a therapeutic meme, and while I enjoy doing it I'm kinda struggling on figuring out how to improve or what I even want to do with it moving forward. Also any advice for aiding concentration with drawing, especially when extremely tired, would be welcome.

>> No.5049304
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5049304

First time actually making a piece with a muscular male as the focus. Thought I'd ask for help before I start to color. Any anat tips or ideas on the claw would be awesome.

>> No.5049321

is learning perspective really the best first step?

>> No.5049327

>>5049321
The first step is drawing

>> No.5049379

>>5049276
good luck shortstack anon, you're already more gmi than the great majority of us here

>> No.5049602
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>> No.5049621

>>5049602
sovl

>> No.5049624
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5049624

i'm not exactly a beginner, but i'm so lacking in many major areas that i may as well be. whenever i sketch a person it always ends up super stiff like this. how do you get past this? should i practice gesture drawing?

>> No.5049627

>>5049624
What a bizarre reference..

Honestly she looks pretty stiff too. But yeah, if you're concerned about stiffness then gesture would be right.

>> No.5049630
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5049630

Thoughts? b4 I fuck it up further with my shit coloring.

>> No.5049635

>>5049630
grind perspective

>> No.5049637

>>5049627
what i had in mind for the pose in the reference was that i wanted to draw miranda from wakfu dressed like aeon flux in her outfit from the mtv cartoon and i thought this was a good action pose. yesterday i sketched a pretty nice looking face from reference and i guess i overestimated my abilities. that always happens. i stumble into making something that looks half decent and want to make something more complicated and get a rude awakening that no, i in fact, still suck.

i will try some gesture stuff then. i remember there was a website i tried years ago that would show you a random picture and you could set a time that it would leave each pic up before moving to a new one.

>>5049630
save the line art as a separate file before coloring it if you're worried about ruining what you have. then you can always try again if you don't like what you made, or if you want to settle for the line art on it's own if you can't color it well enough for your liking.

>> No.5049640

>>5049635
I figured that's what I'd need to do. How bad we talking here. Its For a SS and I don't have much time left to submit it.

>> No.5049643

>>5049640
You'd have to redo the legs if you want the correct perspective. If you don't think you can, just finish it, study some perspective then apply it to your next piece.

>> No.5049646
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5049646

I feel like there a billion mistakes here that should be glaringly obvious but I'm not smart enough to see them.

>> No.5049647

>>5049643
do you have to redraw the legs completely? couldn't you lasso them and skew them larger and smaller as needed and clean up the intersections?

>> No.5049648

>>5049646
Use reference

>> No.5049680

>>5049637
>i remember there was a website i tried years ago that would show you a random picture and you could set a time that it would leave each pic up before moving to a new one.
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing

I'm sure there's more, but I had these bookmarked.

>> No.5049692
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5049692

>>5049304
Fake muscles on the right arm.

>> No.5049699

>>5049692
The first thing that popped into my head seeing this is vagina destroyer. I hope I'm not wrong.

>> No.5049703

>>5049269
do what you did on the second 5 min. pose more often.
Look at the direction on which the body/parts are facin', cross-contour specific parts like arm/leg to show if theyr are facin' down/up. Don't do things like on the 2 min gesture nr. 3

>> No.5049706

>>5049699
I succeeded !

>> No.5049725
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5049725

I call this funny guy moonface mulligan. He's a golf pro

>> No.5049726

>>5047282
I know Villpu is definitely better than Proko for figure drawing but where do I find his videos?

>> No.5049728

What are good sources/sites for life drawing?

>> No.5049731

>>5049728
google images. pinterest is also useable but i'm sure there are better sources

>> No.5049749

>>5049283
The picture is too empty and not interesting, what i see is basically a weird face and some random lines around it. First of all you need to pick some proper subjects to portray, whether you're doing a realistic painting or minimal lineart doesn't matter. Secondly you need to add details and visual content to the drawing. Thirdly focus on improving your composition because composition is an important aspect of what you are doing.

>> No.5049762

>>5049749
> Empty and not interesting
Crab

>> No.5049791
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5049791

how do i avoid the muddy values problem?

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5049792

>>5049692
Thanks for the point out, completely missed that, feel like the proportions are funny now though. Hopefully it stays properly rotated this time.
Nice rendition too. Perfect pussy destroyer.

>> No.5049807

i've spent 3 years and i still dont know how to perspective, i still dont know how to figure draw 100% of the time, and I still dont know how to colour the way I want to. I can't even mimic what I see, because everything turns out lopsided when I flip the canvas. Still can't do eyes, and still can't make anything that looks appealing.

This has been my rant. Thank you for listening, or for letting me scream into the silence.

>> No.5049810

>>5048920
Yeah it's an issue I tried to resolve. I decided to move on to painting but to keep it in mind for future.

>>5049214
Much better gesture. I admit that things quickly got out of control and lost once I started adding clothing to my gesture and base anatomy.

Live and learn I suppose.

>> No.5049876

>>5049791
Using colors that lean towards the original hue more

Also add more white(or select colors that are closer to the white side for digital) to your pallete when describing the partsb that are getting hit by the light source. Greys and blacks should be reserved for areas that enter into shadow, and even then you should still aim for color choices that lean more towards the original pigment of the color over colors that lean too much on grey/black when possible.

>> No.5049904

>>5047535
I like the body, but not the face.

>> No.5049911
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5049911

>>5049791
there are bad values and muddy colors
bad values means there is not enough contrast / distinction / clarity in your picture in terms of bright and dark areas
muddy colors is usually the result of incorrect or imprecise temperature shift
your pic looks muddy mostly because you are using dark earth colors (it looks literally like mud, which in this case is not bad but just an observation)

your values are not bad (when you zoom out, your picture is very clear!) but they could be more confident

your colors are not bad either (there is no "wrong" temperature shift) but it would be better if you added clear temperature shifts on top

keep going anon i believe in you :3

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>> No.5049930

>>5049913
You posted this days ago didnt you

>> No.5049943

>>5049913
You are having more fun with art than I am

>> No.5049944

>>5049930
Showing my progress because I have no friends

>> No.5049949

>>5049913
honest question
not even trying to dunk on you
are you autistic?

>> No.5049954
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5049954

It's been almost 3 months since I got a tablet and I just realized I've barely finished anything on it.

>> No.5049956

>>5049954
yes but its been 3 months and you are still using it. Thats the important part

>> No.5049966

>>5049949
what makes you ask that?

>> No.5049968

>>5048251
You don't understand any of the shapes you've drawn. You've copied what your eyes are seeing and you've failed at it miserably.
Forget about rendering and first work on construction and basic anatomy.
Your line quality is also dogshit.

>> No.5049969

How do you learn new technique while drawing?
I find that I’ve always stagnated, largely due to not dedicating myself, but also because I never seem to learn new methods and techniques.
What’s some activities that you guys like to challenge yourself when practicing.

>> No.5049978

>>5047621
>>5048791
>>5049971
Did a thing for you. Don't get mad at me.

>> No.5049983
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5049983

I tried to draw Picasso’s Stravinsky upside down

>> No.5049991

>>5049983

I think you're supposed to finish the whole thing.

>> No.5049992

>>5049983
no you gave up on drawing the upside down guy after 3 minutes and then took a 12 megapixel photo of this abortion and uploaded a 2.26 mb waste of bandwidth

>> No.5050000

>>5049991
>>5049992
I started at the mouth and drew it step by step around the head, when I drew the eyes I realized there was no space for a nose so I stopped
I made another attempt before I started drinking and it was much worse
I posted it as an example of how bad it can get and how I don’t even know where to start with very beginner exercises

>> No.5050003

>>5050000
alcoholic wimp NGMI what a waste of digits

>I posted it as an example of how bad it can get and how I don’t even know where to start with very beginner exercises
start by actually doing the exercises instead of giving up

>> No.5050005

>>5050003
>start by actually doing the exercises instead of giving up
There was no space for a nose... does that just mean I should immediately start over and do it again? Or draw the whole thing with no nose? How do I avoid messing it up that bad?

>> No.5050028

>>5050005
starting over with the upside down guy would be the ultime turd polishing, dont do that
if you notice a mistake that is going to fuck up the rest of the exercise, either correct it quickly and roughly, or just ignore it for the time being but remember it

since you are just starting out, drawing as much as possible and doing as many exercises (mindfully) as possible should be your goal. there are dozens of posters here who waste time and keep working on one picture or even one exercise for days. if you stop to think and correct every mistake you will stop progressing and demotivate you.

keep going until you understand whole categories of mistakes and what causes them and ultimately how to avoid them. dont spend half an hour guessing, erasing and redrawing the head right now. just move on. in the near future you will understand how to measure stuff visually, and after that fixing a mistake like that will be conscious and easy instead of frustrating guess work

look at it this way - you dont know how to draw, you dont even know how to learn to draw. assume your drawing sucks and so does your practice of drawing. try to get as much experience as quickly as possible by
>just drawing
so you avoid bad habits and wrong mindsets (see the regular threads about artists who draw for years with zero improvements)

>> No.5050041

>>5050028

>so you avoid bad habits and wrong mindsets (see the regular threads about artists who draw for years with zero improvements)

that wasnt very clear i should elaborate

for example trying to make your practice pieces beautiful
or doing a finished picture (as finished as is reasonable for your skill) and start working (= guessing) on some part of the anatomy - while you should finish the picture as good as possible and afterwards study that part of anatomy
or thinking that copying a picture equals studying it
etc

a lot of pitfalls that you can avoid through experience and experimentation

>> No.5050049

>>5050028
>just drawing to avoid bad habits
aimless "practice" without proper structure will just lead to him learning mistakes. practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent. if you spend 100 hours drawing things the wrong way, you won't automatically start drawing better. to learn, you need to look and analyse the fundamental shapes that make up the three-dimensional form you're trying to describe, but this guy can't even draw a straight line. "just draw" is useless advice for intermediates, much less a complete beginner.

>>5050005
do drawabox, at least lesson 0 and 1 so you get a grasp on how to actually put down marks. when you figure that out, don't worry about getting good yet. just have fun with it. draw stuff you find interesting. you'll probably fail but that's okay. literally the most important thing for a beginning artist is to learn how to have fun with drawing, because if you aren't having fun what's the point? don't draw to impress friends, family, internet strangers or even yourself. draw because you want to. then you can focus on getting good.

and don't grind art. you'll just become frustrated and demotivated and quit 3 weeks in.

>> No.5050056

>>5049703
Thanks. I agree, I should probably do longer studies at this point and not try to rush it and make mistakes because I didn't have time to properly analyze what limbs are doing.

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>>5050041
>>5050049
Both pyw I need to decide which one is right.
Not >>5050005 btw.

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5050164

I think I’ve gone schizo.

>> No.5050190
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5050190

>>5050164
Since I can’t sleep I shall torture all of you.

>> No.5050192
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5050192

>>5050190

>> No.5050193
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5050193

>>5050192
Tastes just like real penis!

>> No.5050195
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5050195

>>5050193
End on something cute.

>> No.5050203

>>5050195
>>5050190
cute

>> No.5050216

>>5050190
same but i keep fapping in the middle of the night which ruins my sleep

>> No.5050353

>>5048435
lovely

>> No.5050399

>>5049647
>>5049630
they are kind of reaching in different directions. I couldn't get it to work very well. also the action is kind of ambiguous, I wasn't really sure what was supposed to be happening here.

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>>5050399

>> No.5050454

>>5050164
You need to read Loomis for fucking sake. Been shitting up these threads for years without improving!

>> No.5050616
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>>5047282
Hey /beg/ so I've been a hobby artist ever since I started two years ago. I've done a good bit of anatomy studies in the past but I have mostly stuck to just using references for the past year or so, and I have gotten good at drawing what I see. Mostly I just draw my favorite anime characters for m own enjoyment and occasionally some yuri. I would like to get to the point of being able to draw them with more realistic faces though, real sexy shit.

About where would you say I'm at in terms of skill? What I'm doing well and what I am doing poorly. I'm in no rush to be a master but I would like some pointing in the right direction.

Some self critique, I think my anatomy is okay for what it is. I personally feel as though the torso area is where I am strongest in regards to anatomy, though I still need to represent it better. Shading and coloring I know I only have a basic understanding of, most of my knowledge in that area comes from looking at other artists and having those 'Oh shit! That's how you do it!' moments. One of my biggest disappointments with my skill right now is line quality for sure, I still have issues getting longer lines right and have to start and stop them constantly, which just makes them come out janky.

thanks /beg/

>> No.5050645

>>5050616
Your anatomy is not great, it is all over the place. Your shoulder is a little large, your head is also a little large for that body. Youre going to need to study the face more if you want to do a more realistic style. Just draw some real life references and you'll get better.

>> No.5050652
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5050652

Do the proportions look okay?

>> No.5050673

>>5050652
looks okay, the arms might be short. The elbow is around the belly button and the hand is around the crouch

>> No.5050681

>>5050616
to get good at drawing the figure you need to draw the figure thousands of times. same with faces. set a time limit on your drawings and get that mileage, don't spend too long on any one drawing. I would say it's way more important to focus on building a good, gestural mannequin in the beginning before delving into the more complex anatomy. it's not going to look good without a good foundation anyway.

>> No.5050763

hi, how do I come up with new facial expressions? I have been drawing the same character over a long period of time and I don't want to accidentally do the same face over again. does anyone know where I can find a useful chart or a site with example references?

>> No.5050801
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5050801

>>5050616
You need figure drawing
Also her ear is gone

>> No.5050873

>>5049227
Hey anon, you got some sauce on that?

>> No.5050881

>>5050192
Is that a fuckin blook?

>> No.5050895

>>5050801
why are you so interested in this guy specifically?

>> No.5050941
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>>5050895
To be clear, some other anon that wasn’t me was shilling him the other day
But back to the question. I’ve been enjoying the course and I find it really digestible as a beginner opposed to watching material on YouTube which was my mistake doing. I used to watch a lot of proko and tried following his course but I’m not sure I was ready for it
I recommend Brent because I haven’t went through vilppu yet nor other teachers so I would never suggest learning material I haven’t even done yet.
That said you can probably pick up any figure drawing course and benefit from it if you don’t wanna do the Brent one

>> No.5051013

>>5050941
i did some of it, I just don't like his approach at all. I find construction way more approachable and fun is all. and I don't think accuracy is all that important, like you don't need to map out a centerline by landmarks, you can just eyeball it. If you did proko and that didn't click with you then fine, we all learn differently.

>> No.5051040

>>5050881
Maybe? WTF is a blook?

>> No.5051049

>>5051013
I don’t think mapping out the center line is for accuracy, it’s just to help visualize the largest part of the body before you start detailing the limbs more after basic gesture. He does say it’s perfectly fine to exaggerate some aspects of the body as well. I think proko is more about accuracy honestly. I’m not far from finishing this course and I’ll be going over things multiple times as I practice so I’ll see how it goes for me, I just figured that anon could benefit from some real human figure sketching to get a better idea for their anime characters

>> No.5051063 [DELETED] 
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5051063

Color is fucking HARD mate
Anyway, made a raffle, maybe sign in and get a lineart of whatever fetish pleases your eyes
twitter.com/Glassbuttboy/status/1333570991285547009

>> No.5051066

>>5051063
Why are you advertising your raffle on /beg/ bro

>> No.5051085

>>5051040
Loomis

>> No.5051105

>>5047508
Your hands are very aesthetically pleasing but not totally accurate to the picture. I think the biggest problem that jumps out to me is in the bottom left one. A lot of the measurements are off. The hand is too short in general and the fingers are also too stubby. Without the reference image beside them though I wouldn't have much of a problem with them. I'm sure that there are people on here who would nitpick the shit out of them but drawing hands is notoriously difficult and these are great attempts.

>> No.5051109

>>5048435
fucking saved to my meme folder

>> No.5051125

>>5051040
oi kyber u got a blook i got take bath off of ya mate

>> No.5051138
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5051138

>>5050645
>>5050681
I noticed the shoulder but left it. Here's the ref I used in case that's helpful.

>>5050801
At this point in time I have a folder with like, 500 pictures of people in interesting poses, I think I'll go through and draw them. I'll post what I do later.

Thanks for the help anons.

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>>5051105
Thanks, the next step in the course I’m following will be going over the gesture of the hands and how to draw them more quickly. So far I kinda have no idea on them aside from poorly drawing them every day on characters. Practicing putting arms on figures now and then hands. My goal is to have a better understanding on these by the end of December at least so I can start off 2021 nicely. When I get better at hands I’ll probably draw them slightly larger than usual for anime characters, same for feet. I kinda like that aesthetic for some reason

>> No.5051192

>>5051138
penis?

>> No.5051223

Recently took a 10 year break from art and somehow, amazingly I'm better than I've ever been (and I was bretty good).

But I've been out of the game a long time and don't know how things are done now. What's the best site to post this stuff to if I want to prey on naïve teenage girls?

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>>5051192
>>5051138
This HAS To be a man, right? I tried to draw the pose and It just keeps looking like a man in a girls swimsuit

>> No.5051231

>>5051223
You forgot to post your artwork

>> No.5051233

>>5051229
We can only hope anon

We can only hope

>> No.5051237

>>5051231
nice try fbi

>> No.5051253
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5051253

Not sure what to think of the man.
https://youtu.be/KZAmnJF4IDo?t=70

>> No.5051262

>>5051229
>>5051233
its a guy...look at the torso.
The face and the bulge gives it away too

>> No.5051265

>>5051125
Filthy Canadians.
>>5051085
Never read him. But if you mean it’s a Loomis head, then that wasn’t what I was going for. Just a younger guy. Because it’s not bad enough I go furry, but I go furry with straight shota.

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5051268

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOpBbukLJvg

>> No.5051271

Is 24 too late to become an artist?

>> No.5051283

>>5051271
Yes, if you so much as hold a pencil after childhood, your hands will instantly shrivel up and crumble.

>> No.5051303
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5051303

Daily figure grind. Worried I'm falling into chicken scratching.

>> No.5051304

>>5051262
The white on his swimsuit helps slim his torso a lot until you pay attention

>> No.5051305 [DELETED] 

>>5051271
Yes but because you have no talent
Check my thread >>5051242

>> No.5051306

>>5051271
Fraid so. If you missed the boat in your teens, you gotta wait till your sixties, that is the sweet spot. That is when you'll do your best work as an Artist.

>> No.5051313 [DELETED] 

>>5051271
DON'T GRIND FUNDIES, DON'T STUDY AT ALL
LITERALLY JUST HAVE TALENT AND DOODLE 30 MINUTES OR 20 MINUTES A DAY FOR MONTHS
>>5048162

>> No.5051318
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5051318

PAW PATROL ON A ROLL

>> No.5051319

what time is it, fellas?

>> No.5051320 [DELETED] 

>>5051318
NICE 30 MINUTE DOODLE
FULL OF TALENT!

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5051322

>>5051303
you've been drawing gesture for days and this is what yours look like
TALENT
mine are trash
Youre talented Im not

>>5051271
If you dont have the talent its useless dont even try it

>> No.5051324

>>5051320
I owe it all to many many years studying under Master Miyagi, and the good people at the DERITA CORPORATION.

>> No.5051327

>>5051304
Not gonna lie

Would still fuck

sexy boxy torso is sexy

>> No.5051328

>>5051327
You are GAY

>> No.5051331

>>5047282
took me a moment to understand what I was looking at

>> No.5051336

>>5051328
You sound like my girlfriend (female)

>> No.5051341
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5051341

>>5049269
Today's stuff

>> No.5051352

>>5051303
This is not chicken scratching. Going over your lines several times to find the right one is okay and what a lot of good artists do and recommend (Vilppu, Huston). Chicken scratching is when you are making one curve out of several strokes, which is bad.
Keep it up, looks good.

>> No.5051354

>>5051319
Schizo time

>> No.5051356 [DELETED] 

>>5051341
NICE FUCKING TALENT FUCK YOU>>5051352
FUCK YOU TOO

>> No.5051374
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5051374

>>5051356
These are my "gestures" when I started drawing seriously (I'm >>5051341). Would you call *this one* talent, lmao?
I've been grinding for the last several months for 5-6 hours a day. This is all hard work, you lazy bastard.

>> No.5051379

>>5051318
looks cool anon but the propellers looks potato

>> No.5051388 [DELETED] 
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>>5051374
Better than my own gestures I don't see what's your point
Lazy? I drew for 4 months and never got anywhere
people like >>5048162
or pic related just have talent

>> No.5051400

>>5051388
I don't know if it's worth talking you out of it, seems you're crabbing yourself, but still worth a try...
4 months is not much. You can do things the wrong way and not progress in 4 months at all, because you were copying 2D form for example, not trying to feel the form. You can become a copier after tons of practice, but you'll be a shitty artist. Go watch Huston's "Beginning Figure Drawing" course. If that one doesn't change your perception on how to practice and if you still think about shit like "talent", you're NGMI and should probably do something else.
If you don't want to do art, don't do it. Don't make shitty excuses. Unless you have some brain damage or depth perception issues, you can do art with some practice. And don't compare your process to other people's - they can be lying and some people have been drawing for their entire lives (or just observing things carefully) and then only count days of "serious" practice.

>> No.5051404

>>5051400
Stop wasting your words on him, he is literally spamming several other threads right now for attention.

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>>5051400
I don't need your /beg/ traps, I'm free from aspirations and dreams, I hate all of you artists.
If I was meant to be an artist and share my ideas with the world I would just be, it'd be a smooth process but it's not therefore useless. I can at least try to make others realize talent is real and hope that they will see things my way.
>>5051404
I need others to see this my way, to make them realize talent is real.
None of the drawings I did were ever decent, I can't be an artist, I'm hard coded not to be one, not to be a good one, it's hopeless.

>> No.5051408

>>5051406
Don’t care. Go back to playing video games you retard

>> No.5051413

>>5051404
Yeah, to be fair I care more about other people listening to his bullshit than him. I really hope that people that are potentially GMIs already know that "talent" is not real (or very rare) and continue grinding no matter what crabs say.

>> No.5051414
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5051414

This was supposed to be a Disney style horse.

Please rate, Does it look Disney? How can I make it more Disney looking? How can I improve it overall?

Also what's a good way to make money from art?

>> No.5051417

>>5051388
This kind of stuff is basically clickbait dude. The guy likely wasn't really that bad at the start, he just picked out a low effort doodle and compared it to a finished illustration.

>> No.5051423
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>> No.5051424 [DELETED] 

>>5051408
I close every day perfectly, mostly sleep all of it, a perfect cycle meant to waste time.
>>5051413
GMIs? Future twitter artists? That's all they are ever going to be. I'll make more people see things my way just to spite you.

>> No.5051440 [DELETED] 

>>5051413
Should I compile the failures of this board and people like that 100 day pic, compare them and make them an ad? I'll make people see things my way out of pure hatred.

>> No.5051444
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5051444

>>5051424
I’d love to continue being an artist anon
>>5051413
That’s nice of you to say and I agree, it’s important for people to learn from others experiences and ranting. They also need to keep in mind that learning art takes time and we have our whole lives ahead of us

>> No.5051447 [DELETED] 

>>5051444
Fuck off you talented fuck, go eat shit.

>> No.5051448

just draw

>> No.5051449

>>5051447
How is that talent? I’m almost at my two year mark next month compared to your 4 months & crying

>> No.5051455
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5051455

Here’s one of my drawings close to 4 or 5 months in the grind last year

>> No.5051457 [DELETED] 

>>5051449
Lying now? You've been drawing for 3 months or something like that, fuck you and die. If it's the truth, then you have no talent and should give up.
Artist? You're no artist if that's your 2 years then it was all wasted when people are doing way better in a single year, you're a parasite a tumor on art that refuses to die and quit.

>> No.5051458

How many "sketches" or "studies" do you guys do per day? 1 Sketch or study being 1 pose or gesture or person thing you drew

>> No.5051459

>>5051414
Fucking terrible work desu.

>> No.5051462 [DELETED] 

>>5051455
Better than anything I can make, you're talented.

>> No.5051463
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5051463

>>5051457
Absolutely BUTTBLASTED crab has no concept of mileage or anything really

>> No.5051464

>>5051444
Yep. I try to be an opposite of crab, because this is what this board seriously lacks - some support from fellow artists and clear guidance/feedback instead of trying to make people feel bad.
Just think of crabs as fatties who are getting butthurt about people trying to get fit and say shit like "I'VE BEEN DIETING FOR 3 MONTHS AND HAVEN'T LOST ANYTHING. IT'S POINTLESS. GIVE UP".

>> No.5051465 [DELETED] 

>>5051463
Your work is going to be meaningless trash flooding the internet, nothing more, your failure and irrelevance will last forever.

>> No.5051468

>>5051414
Could someone not a cunt like this guy >>5051459
give some constructive criticism, please?

>> No.5051471

>>5051465
Im not the guy who drew that, Im a morally superior bystander laughing at your schizoposting

>> No.5051472

>>5051449
>two years
>still not feeling the form
Godspeed.

>> No.5051473 [DELETED] 

>>5051464
You're not as benevolent or smart as you think you are, funny that you ignored my 4 hours a day. 4 hours a day should be enough for aome porgress but I had none.

>> No.5051476
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5051476

>>5051457
>Lying now?
>you’ve been drawing for 3 months
>you’re no artist if that’s your 2 years
Oh you really are a loon. Anyway no thanks, I’ll continue drawing and not mind you

>> No.5051480 [DELETED] 

>>5051471
I can see the filename fuckface, your work is still going to be nothing but another drop in a sea of bullshit.

>> No.5051481 [DELETED] 

>>5051476
You really piss me off, give me a week or two and I'll show you just how wasted your 2 years have been, you, my friend are jackshit.

>> No.5051484

>>5051458
it varies. I just counted and I have done 49 figures, a couple of feet and a couple of quads studies today.

>> No.5051485

>>5051480
>I can see the filename fuckface
You are literal going insane. What filename? The default 4chan filename when you save a pic here? Your brain is fried from all the porn you consume and the lack of drawings you make. You are literally mindfucked. Go to sleep schizo, take your meds, and dream of a better life.

>> No.5051488

>>5051481
>you’ve been drawing for 3 months you lying fuck
>you wasted your two years
>you piss me off give me a week
?

>> No.5051491

>>5051484
God damn I did only about 8 drawings today. 1 Face, 1 head construction practice, and 6 gestures/poses. Granted they were bascially ready for colouring or just needed cleanup/details but I should step it up

>> No.5051493
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5051493

>>5051455
That's pretty nice looking, GMI. Keep grinding.
>>5051414
No. The eyes are completely souless and there's no gesture/form. Find good Disney horse drawings and try to do it as close as possible to them without blindindly copying. Something like this - look at how gestural it is, and how much life the eyes of it have.

>> No.5051496 [DELETED] 

>>5051485
That's your best insult, give me a break?
>>5051488
I don't give a shit if they suck your dick on the drawthreads (lmao nice artist) your stuff is trash beyond redemption.

>> No.5051497
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5051497

Is this chicken scratch or just restating the lines?

>> No.5051500

>>5050028
>if you notice a mistake that is going to fuck up the rest of the exercise, either correct it quickly and roughly
Was I supposed to do the Picasso Stravinsky exercise with a pencil? I was doing it with a pen freehand
Or am I just supposed to ignore the erroneous line and draw another?

>> No.5051502 [DELETED] 

>>5051493
This is the evidence that you have no talent, when someone will coddle you just to spite the one speaking the truth, >>5051414
This is kiddie trash

>> No.5051506
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5051506

>>5051493
Cheers.

I did try to do that with he middle one on the top row in this pic, but I guess it's just something that comes with practice and making sure I don't dampen down the emotion in the face.

>> No.5051508
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5051508

People posting their old stuff made me look back through my old drawings. When I made this I used MS paint exclusively as I had no tablet, just a touchscreen laptop. In paint there's no pen pressure anyway so it would look stylistic was my logic.
I remember thinking this was good at the time for some reason. I actually regressed quite a bit, my drawings from back when I was in high school and was doing observational drawings for class regularly were much better.

>> No.5051509

>>5051491
Don't forget about timed poses. You can do 5*1min + 5*2min + 2*5min in just 25 minutes, which I did here (>>5051341). That's 12 poses minutes! If you do it 3 times, you'll get 36 poses in 1.5 hours.

Don't focus on details/cleanup/shading too much, it's a waste of time when you're learning (unless you're trying to learn clean linework or detailed anatomy). Most of the mistakes are done in the first seconds/minutes.

>> No.5051515

>>5051509
Cool, Ill try doing that more then. Ive been mainly just copying stuff I see and drawing them, should probably do an hour of timed figured like that then

>> No.5051516
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5051516

>>5051496
How come you’re so insulting anon? You’ve been spamming the thread about how you have no talent and now you’re attacking me after I showed my own progress in comparison. Let’s see if you’ll draw along with me as I post my digital and traditional sketches and stuff here over the next few months to years

>> No.5051521

>>5051497
Chicken scratching is when you take multiple strokes to draw a line that defines a plane when it should only take one. Restating lines is just drawing multiple strokes over each other to get the right shape, but otherwise each stroke individually can define the plane. Your stuff could be a bit cleaner, but for the most part it's not chicken scratching, no.

>> No.5051524 [DELETED] 

>>5051516
You were doing better than me on your fourth month, apologies over being a dick, I like your drawings, anime bullshit but whatever I like it. You have to understand my point here.

>> No.5051525
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>>5051509
>>5051491
exactly, these were quick poses

>> No.5051526
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5051526

>>5051516
Oh anon I forgot to mention the rules of the game if you wanna play
I’ll only acknowledge you from here on if you post your artwork along with your replies in the future

>> No.5051532

>>5051521
Thanks for taking the time anon, I'm still working on making it look less messy

>> No.5051557
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5051557

>>5051506
Did a quick study, maybe this will give you some ideas. But here's one important thing: get high quality screenshots or even better - find concept art/sketches to understand how the artist was thinking about the form. I couldn't figure out how the mouth worked from the low res, so it was pretty hard for me to get "ok".
>>5051525
Very nice, you're feeling the form.
>>5051532
No problem. I had the same problem as well. I think two things help: 1. "try out" the line before doing it - you'll visualize it pretty well if you move the arm around the curve you're about to draw. 2. draw very lightly at first and then draw over these lines by commiting to the best line - the line which were used to "find" the best line will fade away in comparison.

>> No.5051563 [DELETED] 

>>5051557
Oh its the 4 months but talented anon
HOWS YOUR DOODLE YOU FUCK

>> No.5051565

>>5051557
Thanks again.
What programme are you using? I was just using Affinity Designer. I also have Affinity Photo which has some good brushes. Is Clip Studio Paint really the best? Which version should I get?

>> No.5051572

>>5051557
Not that I mind all too much, but you replied to them as if you were me >>5051521. Mistake?

>> No.5051585

>>5051565
It's ProCreate on an iPad Pro. The program doesn't matter really until you're doing something really complex. What matters is that it feels "good" to draw and has good brushes (I especially need some pencil-like brushes for sketching. Drawing with hard/pen-like brushes for sketching is terrible. It's better to be able to make really light lines at sketching stage).
Don't forget that there are "sketch" and linework/cleanup stages which are done on a separate layer usually. Don't do clean linework until your sketch feels good.
Try to find the most simple forms at first. The head is a circle. The muzzle is a cylinder, etc. Don't commit to any lines before you figure out the basic structure.

>> No.5051590

>>5051572
Yeah, sorry, I thought it was a reply to this post >>5051352 which I wrote.

>> No.5051651
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5051651

Disney horse guy here. This is my other work. I think I prefer this style more desu.

>> No.5051677

>>5051666
For composition just stitched images together either from the internet or photos that I took then traced it tbqhwy. I used Affinity Photo for that.

I've been doing arty stuff for about 4 years, starting with irl oil painting.

>> No.5051681

>>5051677
Although when I say 4 years, I mean I started it 4 years ago but do it very infrequently.

>> No.5051683
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5051683

I saw this video about how values are more important than color choice, and the creator showed himself painting while blindly picking colors, the layer being covered by a black color layer so he could not see his own choices, only the vvalues of the colors.
Tried it myself quickly and whew, this didn't work at all

>> No.5051686

>>5051683
Looks good senpai.

>> No.5051688
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5051688

>>5049646
Read the sticky. I can list several errors, but that's not how you learn.
>>5050873
That's my original work.

>> No.5051692

>>5051688
You also the guy that drew the elf paladin based on my character then?

You really should make an insta to throw your stuff onto. Would follow.

>> No.5051760
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5051760

>>5051683
This was fun. I'm never trying to draw an animu face without an underlying sketch again though, huge mistake.

>> No.5051766

How come like 10 posts disappeared lol

>> No.5051768

>>5051766
Janny did his work.

>> No.5051782

Just finished inking my drawing. This took a shitload of time. Now all that's left is colors

>> No.5051786
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>>5051782

>> No.5051809

>>5051760
Looks comfy, great job

>> No.5051871
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5051871

trying to study actual facial features for the first time and i am not feeling the form at all

i hate the lips and ears the most

>> No.5051873

new

>>5051872
>>5051872
>>5051872

>> No.5051884

>>5051871
This is terrible. Go back to the basics and learn to draw confidently.

>> No.5051888

>>5051760
Now that looks way better

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>> No.5051935

>>5051871
Look pretty good for a beginner. Confidence will naturally come the more you draw.

>> No.5051948

>>5051683
>covered by a black color layer
i don't get it, please link the video

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5052114

>>5051229
>>5051262
Oh my god.............. I used a male reference for a female without knowing.

>> No.5052147

>>5051692
That's very nice of you, but I want to remain anonymous.

>> No.5052151

>>5052147
Want to throw your stuff up onto a mega or something then?

Wouldn't fault you for being lazy and just saying no though.

>> No.5053041

>>5049646
Time wasted.

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5053043

>>5051786
Keep up the good work, dude. Looks clean as fuck.