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If you use fagcreate you can't consider yourself an artist, you're hardly human.

>> No.5041309

>>5041307
I honestly do not see what the iSheeple see in that application.

>> No.5041310

>>5041309
Is fag-friendly, tumblr aesthetics.

>> No.5041320

another seething thread/
quick, everyone show off your huions

>> No.5041337

>>5041307
If you use digital you can't consider yourself an artist, you're hardly human.

>> No.5041338

>>5041320
Fuck off, fagcreate basedboy

>> No.5041351

>>5041338
show me your cuckmvas, pingpong wei

>> No.5041353

>>5041337
>so poor that he can't afford a digitalizer tablet

Average venezuelan.

>> No.5041355
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NO NO NO BROS HOW COULD VILPPU BETRAY US?

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>>5041351
>show me your cuckmvas, pingpong wei

>> No.5041361

>>5041353
>afford a digitalizer tablet
I wish, I can’t afford electricity

Posted from stolen phone off public wi-fi

>> No.5041366

>>5041361
Give me your youngest sister and i'll send you some potatoes

>> No.5041391

>>5041360
>t.riggered

>> No.5041392

Huion fanboy thread?

>> No.5041394

YAS HUION

>> No.5041397

>>5041309
It has all the core Photoshop features while having a better brush engine and performance than even desktop CSP. I don't see why you would need anything else for a sketchbook.

>> No.5041401

>>5041397
Go back tumblr ifaggot.

>> No.5041411

>>5041401
im sorry you are poor, no need to get angry.

>> No.5041412

>procreates
>faggot
Does not compute. And we’re still better than niggers.

>> No.5041416

>>5041412
>procreate
>white

you're not better than niggers, you're niggers.

>> No.5041417

>>5041412
t. unironic tranny

>> No.5041430

Wtf is procreate and why is it controversial

t. no idea how digital art works I just draw with pens

>> No.5041446

>>5041430
just the apple photoshop

>> No.5041462

>>5041430
>why is it controversial
Ipads are expensive and most people are poor, there is no controversy. It's a very good, cheap app on an expensive apple device that is shit at everything but drawing in procreate and possibly CSP.

>> No.5041466

>>5041446
it’s not made by apple and it’s nothing like photoshop
photoshop would be artstudio pro, affinity photo or you know, photoshop
procreate is a barebones drawing app, doesn’t even have adjustment layers

>> No.5041467

>>5041462
what is it shit at, I literally stopped using my pc for anything besides torrenting

>> No.5041493

>>5041467
what is an Ipad shit at? Everything you want to use it for.
you cant torrent on it, you cant view webms on 4chan, you cant access files on it without using iTunes or previously buying an overpriced usb adapter, the file management in general is convoluted and pushes you toward cloud storage, it has less apps than a shitty android tablet (I want my manga reader), no side loading apps and everything is more expensive. It's a massive iPod touch, it only exists for procreate.

>> No.5041500

>>5041466
>drawing
>adjustment layers

Stop being beg, buy oils go outside and learn to paint properly

>> No.5041501

>>5041466
>doesn’t even have adjustment layers
yes it does, it has every core Photoshop tool you need, you just don't know how to use it.

>> No.5041509

>>5041501
you don’t know what an adjustment layer even is, retard
protip: it’s a layer
procreate only has adjustments that you can’t modify afterwards
the shitty app doesn’t even let you hide the selection so you can paint, and it fills the entire screen with grey lines so you can’t even tell how the selection fits into into its surroundings
its bug list keeps getting bigger because every the retarded devs are too busy adding meme “features” like face painting

>> No.5041524

>>5041509
Just duplicate your painting and adjust it in a separate layer

>> No.5041526

I agree with this statement

>> No.5041531

>>5041501
Nah, procreate is amateurish as fuck. Take gradient maps for instance, you can’t have it on a seperate layer (because no adjustment layers), so you can only apply a map to a layer directly. You then can’t mask it, but have to use lasso to apply multiple maps to the same layer. Gradient maps obviously compromise the value structure, but since there is no gradient map layer, you can only select the area with the lasso again and apply a different map over the old one if you want to change it, leading to even more fucked up values.
Or look at the saturation layer mode, it can only DESATURATE what’s beneath, applying a higher saturation literally does nothing. This has been the case for years, they are never going to fix it because their core user base doesn’t even know what the thing is used for.
Procreate is garbage.

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>>5041531
Here you are complaining about an art program instead of actually drawing. Peak NGMI

>> No.5041546

>>5041545
>now, shilling a shitty mobile app instead of drawing? that’s gmi
cope, retard

>> No.5041553

>>5041546
no U

>> No.5041556

>>5041531
again just make a copy of your painting and paint in your gradient map by hand. Everything you're whining about can be done its just less convenient. Your reliance on photo editing crutches is your own fault. This isn't meant to replace Photoshop as a photo editing tool its a painting application and it has all the core PS painting tools.

>> No.5041558

>>5041307
still the best drawing app on the ipad for me

>> No.5041559

>Digital art
>Filled with manchildren
Not surprised.

>> No.5041574

>>5041556
Gradient maps and adjustment layers exist to quickly make modular variants, you retarded faggot. having to do this monkey work manually literally makes my time worth less. It’s a shit tier app made for hobbyists who don’t know any better, like you apparently.

>> No.5041587

>>5041574
I'm not a retard who's trying to do all his work on a shitty tablet and a 20 dollar app. I have a workstation for professional work and the ipad for when I want to sketch on the go, if you were less of a shitty artist you would just paint your fucking painting instead of crying about adjustment layers because you're so indecisive.

>> No.5041600

>>5041587
>you’re indecisive
>implying you make the decisions
you never worked lmao

>> No.5041628

>>5041600
I have no sympathy for you, you're pretending to do client work on a tablet with a cheap as fuck, streamlined app. Sorry, I cant relate I've never been so dispensable that I wasn't allowed to make artistic choices about how I paint and what I thought worked best, there is no scenario where you would need more than one adjustment layer at a time beyond being indecisive about your own image.

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>> No.5041653

>>5041587
>I'm a LARPING retard who draws porn for coom bucks professionally
No half decent studio gives a single shit about anything that isn't PS, retardlet and nor would they hire anyone too retarded to understand what an adjustment layer is

>> No.5041656

>>5041631
Imagine putting the fact thaf you know procreate on your CV. How have procreatefags not killed themselves yet?

>> No.5041667

>>5041653
you're a bit confused, who's the one crying about trying to do professional work on an ipad?

>> No.5041668

>>5041628
Nobody works in procreate, that’s the point.
There are full desktop apps on ipad, like artstudio pro, affinity photo, csp, etc.
Artstudio pro actually has all the features of PS and full compatibility with abr and tpl, unlike the halfassed procreate conversion with their shifty brush engine.
What exactly do you believe you need desktop photoshop for that you can’t do on the ipad? Serious question, and I don’t offer meme excuses like “lol just do it all manually” like the procreate cucks.

>> No.5041678

>procreate
>move/scale something off canvas for a second
>it gets cut off forever

>> No.5041696

>>5041668
I would never use a tablet for professional work because I don't want to fuck with my decade old Photoshop process and muscle memory when I'm making money. The main reason is it's cramped and under powered, I need easy dual screen access to hold references either for design or from the client. 3D applications are a joke on tablets. CSP runs like shit on PC, don't lie about using it for professional painting.

Even if you could set up every single keyboard shortcut and brush the same way as Photoshop on those other apps I never heard of why would I? so I can hunch over a 13 inch screen and deal with apples inane file system? I don't work in coffee shops, I have a Workstation.

>> No.5041705

>>5041668
hey dude we need some paint overs of this unreal level, yeah lemme just open it up on my ipa... what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody uses tablets for professional work.

>> No.5041713

>>5041656
That picture has literally nothing to do with procreate you joyless fuck. It was making fun of digital shortcuts, given that every great art has been done with piss and shit mixed with linseed oil. How could you be so dense and insecure to take joke as personal attack? It even has VILPPU in it. I’d tell you to kys, but you’re already dead inside.

>> No.5041722

>>5041696
>CSP runs like shit on PC, don't lie about using it for professional painting
I don’t, I just mentioned it because I said desktop software is on the ipad to contrast procreate.
>Even if you could set up every single keyboard shortcut and brush the same way as Photoshop
You can.
>so I can hunch over a 13 inch screen and deal with apples inane file system?
Not sure what you mean, you work in .psd, you have full access to the storage, and the files are synced, so you can just pop them open on the desktop and carry on.
Also, not sure why you’d be hunched over, working on the ipad is extremely comfortable. The screen real estate takes getting used to, but the apps are largely built around it, so it’s not as much of an issue. For example, instead of wasting a bunch of space fora another window with a ref in photoshop, you have a floating ref window integrated into the app, immediately movable, scalable, with greyscale and mirroring at the touch of a button. You don’t want it,. you press a button to close it, you want it back, you press it to open.
>underpowered
The early gens kind of were, but the new ones are definitely not, and with the new M1 devices natively running macos and ipados and with the performance of the chip, the 2021 gen will very likely be extremely good.
I’m not an applefag, it’s the only apple device I own, but it’s honestly fantastic, and I definitely can (and do) do all my work on it.
>3D
Wouldn’t know, I don’t do gamedev shit

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Was in some other thread that had a fag talking shit about ipads saying theyre not good tools for any respectable artist
>he proceeded to mention the latest ipad he has was the gen 1 air and a 2012 ipad
Good kek

>> No.5041746

>>5041722
I wouldn't use either but if I had to choose I'd rather use procreate than "full desktop" CSP for professional illustration work, it has a better brush engine and isn't laggy as fuck. The only major artist I know of (besides mangaka on CSP) who used tablets professionally was dave rapoza and he used procreate. When I have references I have a tonne and sometimes I'm given videos and 3D models. For my line of work tablets are impossible.

I can see myself using them in the next 10 years but until they improve ill use them as a sketchbook like every other artist.

>> No.5041753

>>5041746
What makes you think procreate has a good brush engine, let alone a better engine than literally any alternative?

>> No.5041758

Csps brush engine is way better than procreates. I don't get this meme

>> No.5041760

>>5041753
it has real dual brush support, I was able to port over my main Photoshop brushes perfectly, I couldn't do this in CSP.

>> No.5041774

>>5041760
Anon, it can’t even port a hard round with opacity and flow jitter perfectly.
I actually had to track it down because something was bothering me about painting, and I tested it with a standard round brush with 25 spacing and flow and opacity jitter, the stamps blend completely differently.

>> No.5041789

>>5041774
dunno what to tell you, for my purposes it was better than CSP. I never use opacity with any of my brushes because it looks shit in every painting program. I only need flow, angle, texture and dual brush. I had to tweak some settings because the automatic conversion process wasn't perfect but it had all the options I needed to fix it.

>> No.5041795

>>5041789
Again, I don’t use CSP, I use Artstudio Pro, that’s my reference point. I meant if it works, good, but I tried using Procreate and it’s so subpar it’s ridiculous.
The stupid thing can’t even color drop or pick in CMYK properly

>> No.5041811

>>5041795
Never used artstudio, never felt the need for anything more powerful. dunno what color dropping is but its comfortable enough to put the picker on a finger touch and use my left hand as I paint. CMYK are the most esoteric and least used sliders, The only thing I'm partially missing is lab sliders but rgb and hsb are more than enough. You sound like you have a highly specific workflow so of course you're annoyed at procreate, I'm pretty vanilla so I'm happy in any software that runs well. if CSP fixed their performance issues id just make do without dualbrush and drop PS.

>> No.5042227

>>5041722
Look at the M1 benchmarks carefully and you'll notice that the performance is actually worse than a six year old desktop GPU.

>> No.5042230

>>5042227
>gpu
lol?

>> No.5042234

>relying on tools to make good art
Protip: If you can't make good art with Procreate, you can't make good art with anything. This is the biggest ngmi I've ever seen lmao

>> No.5042244

>>5042230
A dedicated GPU is more valuable than a CPU for art, retard. If it comes with a super shitty iGPU you should never buy it because it's a /beg/ trap.

>> No.5042251

>>5042234
And exactly how many times have you seen Procreate as a wanted skill when applying to studios? Do you think that anyone wants to handhold the intellectually disabled procreatefags in this thread? I'll bin your application before I even read it.

>> No.5042257

>>5042251
You won't bin anything because you're literally larping. Successful people who are good at and enjoy their work don't feel the need to go on anonymous internet forums to rage at other people for no apparent reason. You're either highly insecure, have a miserable life, or some unfortunate combination of the two. People like you are a dime a dozen around here. I feel sorry for you. Since larping on an anonymous forum seems to be all you have going for you, I'll let you have it though. Sorry for your life anon.

>> No.5042265

>>5042244
lol no it isn’t, retard
barely any desktop software uses gpu acceleration, it does fuck all for ps
even zbrush is all cpu

>> No.5042272

>>5042257
>n-no I'll
Continue believing in your worthless delusions until reality and the pipeline slaps you in the face. I really hate working with 2D artists precisely because you all think that you are a special snowflake, worse than the braindead Blender kiddy fanboy screaming on the internet forums about how Blender will overtake Maya and Max. Apple and its stupid religious fanboys are really disgusting to me especially.

>> No.5042275

>>5042272
I hope things turn around for you anon, truly. Maybe try funneling your rage and anger into learning how to draw?

>> No.5042277

>>5042265
>Single core applications needing anything
Seems like you're the delusional one here. I suppose procreatefags are actually retarded enough to think that 6 GB of RAM is enough and that they are also delusional enough to think that shit like zBrush will work on their machines. Keep living in your fantasies.

>> No.5042283

>>5042275
>Procreatefags
>Knowing how to draw
It's a shame isn't it that I've never seen a single professional showreel or portfolio from you guys that wasn't pathetic, but keep telling yourself it will be okay and denying reality and maybe you'll keep improving, okay?

>> No.5042291

>>5042283
You haven't ever seen a showreel or portfolio in a professional setting because you're clearly larping as a guy who actually has a semblance of power. What went wrong in your life to end up here, buddy?

>> No.5042322

>>5042291
Why would I bother LARPing when I see and have to deal people with your problem attitude daily? Isn't it a shame having to get rid of a promising grad? And the only thing they can do is 'use an iPad' or 'use procreate' or 'play videogames' or use Blender (or some hypocritical excuse) and nonsense such as that. It's just a lazy excuse for a slacker not wanting to learn the workflow of the real world thinking that the real world will bend over for them. Well, the real world isn't sexy. If you can achieve the same result in the same time in Procreate you can go ahead and try it. There's no reason why you can't produce the same result as a person using Photoshop according to your logic and no reason why your boss shouldn't fire you when you can't open the client files. If the tools are good according to you, then the problem is you and not Procreate.

>> No.5042352

>>5042322
The real world isn't sitting in a dark room pretending to be something you aren't, though.

>> No.5042385

>>5042352
I am exactly what I say I am. We are all civil adults here aren't we? You know exactly what I said. Want to ignore that? Fine. Reject reality. Don't come crying home when you get rejected. I've seen plenty of people like you and will see plenty more. If you want to bring your hobby program out of your dark bedroom and wear your pyjamas to work, it's none of my business. My advice is only for people who want to listen.

>> No.5042397

>>5042277
nigger, literally only a couple of filters in photoshop use gpu acceleration, you’ve been memed

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>there are people who actually think gpu matters for art

>> No.5042409

>>5042402
>spend 3k for a gpu
>paint bucket takes longer than with an igpu

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Does this dude itt know procreate is a tool to create art and nothing more?
Plenty of artists mention they like the app
https://youtu.be/aGPnN0Yoldw
https://youtu.be/DGqnNxDnX6I
https://youtu.be/nlPXM1JmzhI

>> No.5042428

>>5042251
I've never seen a request for any software for a 2d artist, if you make good shit you can do it in whatever program you want

>> No.5042730

>>5042418
anything with a hard round brush and a decent enough color picker with layers is an art tool.
people can make amazing things in graphite so defining "art tools"
will just go to semantics.