/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5039467]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous thread:>>5035333

The complete famous artist course is public domain
Personally I think it should be in the beg pasta

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B8VO-JQCy3HgelpRajdPY3RSXzg?amp;usp=sharing&;tid=0B8VO-JQCy3HgZ0U3QkVvVm4wREE

[Anonymous No.5039477]

I didn't realise I hated women that much until I started grinding anatomy instead of tracing anime.

[Anonymous No.5039481]

Don't miss out on this thread >>5036970

[Anonymous No.5039483]

Any tips on getting into drawing properly again?

[Anonymous No.5039512]

does the perspective on this look right?

[Anonymous No.5039524]

The famous artist course also has a cartooning version if you'd like me to share it

[Anonymous No.5039541]

[Anonymous No.5039560]

>>5039512
The right part of the helmet doesn't point in the same direction as the rest, I think.
Most of the other elements point mostly towards us except the stuff in red which goes to the left.

[Anonymous No.5039561]

>>5039560

[Anonymous No.5039566]

What I am doing wrong with my quick figure drawing sessions? And what should I do to get it right instead of "just drawing"?

[Anonymous No.5039568]

>>5039566
Second one

[Anonymous No.5039588]

>>5039566
you second set looks better than the first. Learn the basic(perspective, anatomy, proportions) will help improve your drawing

[Anonymous No.5039635]

>>5039467
I need thoughts on this before I make it into individual parts.

[Anonymous No.5039637]

>>5039635
Torso too short

[Anonymous No.5039638]

>>5039541
You need to have clearer lines and more contrast, once you do that it'll be a lot easier to see the structure better.

[Anonymous No.5039648]

if i want to get into painting, should i learn how to draw first? i dont really know where to start and am going to use the links you provided in the post.

[Anonymous No.5039693]

Is drawabox good enough to start on construct or there are better sources?
t.finished reading keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.5039697]

>>5039635

[Anonymous No.5039708]

>>5039635
Give her bigger boobs

[Anonymous No.5039727]

>>5039635
Make her white

[Anonymous No.5039737]

Daily watercolor. I found some actual watercolor paper post cards so this is my first landscape ratio attempt. Any feedback appreciated

[Anonymous No.5039750]

>>5039483
draw

[Anonymous No.5039754]

>>5039635
why is she built like an unggoy

[Anonymous No.5039755]

>>5039568
for the love of god learn proportions

[Anonymous No.5039820]

1min lewds on quickposes, too stressful, need to increase the time

[Anonymous No.5039835]

got halfway through and noticed how the middle was getting squished and kinda rushed the upper torso. how did i do?

[Anonymous No.5039838]

>>5039835
did you understand what you did anon?

[Anonymous No.5039851]

How's my gesture?

[Anonymous No.5039879]

Am I doing it wrong ?

[Anonymous No.5039888]

>>5039851
the left leg is too long, the knee should be around were the end of the skirt is. Also is looks like she is leaning forward a little bit

[Anonymous No.5039889]

>>5039568
wtf I'm drawing like for half a year and you're better than me

[Anonymous No.5039891]

>>5039888
Noted. Thanks

[Anonymous No.5039893]

>>5039879
are you asking if you are drawing circles wrong or are you asking if you are doing the exercise wrong? The answer too both of those questions is no, your fine.

[Anonymous No.5039897]

>>5039524
Here it is
https://randomnerds.com/learn-to-draw-cartoons-with-the-now-public-domain-famous-artist-cartoon-course-textbook/

[Anonymous No.5039911]

correct this

[Anonymous No.5039912]

>>5039838
i see that i was partly drawing what i thought was supposed to be there rather than completely focusing on the lines and shapes.

i guess ill repeat this exercise after some time and try to focus more on the point?(went blindly into this exercise)

[Anonymous No.5039931]

Can someone help me out with the perspective on the broom? It looks off and I can't put my finger on why.

[Anonymous No.5039980]

>>5039879
> Anon deaw circle better than you
2 weeks wasted

[Anonymous No.5040000]

>>5039560
>>5039561
good call. so i played around with it and turns out i had some shapes that didnt match as well. i think this reads a lot better

[Anonymous No.5040014]

>>5039931
I think her left arm should be further back if she's holding the broom against her right hip and not her ass.

[Anonymous No.5040021]

not exactly a beginner but i’ve been struggling with an issue that makes me feel like one

[Anonymous No.5040024]

[Anonymous No.5040033]

>>5040021
This isn't a vent thread. If you want help with something, ask.

[Anonymous No.5040038]

>>5040033
i’m literally asking for advice

[Anonymous No.5040040]

Which is better from Hampton, book or video lectures? Videos have so far seemed better for my learning, but taking a look at Hamptons they seemed quite amateurish, while the book is apparently legendary.

[Anonymous No.5040072]

>>5040038
With "an issue." Can't you be more specific? If the problem is that it makes you feel like a beg. you just need to get over that and study the issue until you've figured it out. Doesn't matter if you think it "should be easy." Different things will make sense at different times to different people.

[Anonymous No.5040075]

>>5040072
i did specify but the jokes on me. I actually posted the photo above explaining my issue, but i screwed up and did two posts when i just wanted to add a caption. so yeah consider the photo i posted as my issue.

[Anonymous No.5040090]

Is this any good? I tried colouring only, without the linear but im just, idk. Not yet there I guess.

[Anonymous No.5040094]

>>5040024
I got better at this by learning not to care so much about things. It's like drawing a circle, you'll most likely fuck up but it gets worse if you're overthinking it.

[Anonymous No.5040097]

>>5040024
What art program are you using?
Try doing many strokes and circles, also if it is really a problem you can use stabilizer on your brush.

[Anonymous No.5040098]

How do you stay concentrated while drawing?

[Anonymous No.5040101]

>>5040098
Tall coffee
Set a specific amount of hours through a timer
I do 2 hrs

[Anonymous No.5040103]

>>5040097
anon, he's using a piece of paper

[Anonymous No.5040107]

Some coomer studies. I need to feel the form more and know the proportions better, but it's a lot better than I could previously do.

[Anonymous No.5040109]

>>5039931
it kinda looks like she has bent it behind her

[Anonymous No.5040111]

I feel like I keep drawing the same stuff over and over, that I will never make it, I can't do it anymore boys

[Anonymous No.5040113]

shortstack studies. ive been just copying other artists work and trying to get a feel for proportions and anatomy. i still suck but i hope if i keep doing this with studies on the side I can get good and make something original
tomorrow im gonna focus on doing real humans for a change, i think /s/ is a good place to find some refs
>>5040098
I listen to an album I like on loop till Im done, I usually end up getting 4-5 hours of drawing done like that.

[Anonymous No.5040119]

>>5039477
I'm pretty sure you will hate muscle chad men more.

[Anonymous No.5040123]

>>5039635
The is the shittiest thing I've seen for a while, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5040125]

>>5040098
I take breaks to play vidya and watch random stuff on netflix. It's far more manageable to do so BEFORE you get bored enough to not come back after you do.

That and sometimes I just draw fat dicks on the female characters I'm working on before sending it to my friends.

[Anonymous No.5040129]

>>5040103
>>5040024
Use the shoulder and wrist I think.

[Anonymous No.5040130]

>>5040129
arm not wrist.

[Anonymous No.5040137]

>>5040119
meh, chad has muscles but you just need to know where they are and how they work.
women have muscles but you need to know where they are, how they work, and whether they're actually visible given the pose and lighting because of the layer of fat they're covered in which also makes shading a bitch.

[Anonymous No.5040148]

Absolute /beg/ here, started 1 month ago. Trying to put features in the loomis head. Still struggling to understand how to turn the eyes in all angles. How does this look?

[Anonymous No.5040167]

>>5039635
her neck is off center and missing a throat and her right thumb looks dislocated.

[Anonymous No.5040184]

Hello brother, pls need somo advice and tips for improve anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5040204]

>>5040148
use a reference
mouth is too low, eyes are too close and too big, and everything is just shaped wrong so use a reference and observe more carefully

[Anonymous No.5040207]

>>5040097
the picture i posted is on paper, but i actually use procreate. i don’t like the streamline features, they tend to make lines look smoother, but overall you lose control, tapered lines are harder to do. and overall looks more amateur.

[Anonymous No.5040209]

>>5040148
Best way imo is just to break it down and grind. Draw a box, draw an ellipse inside the box, wrap eyelids around the ellipse.

[Anonymous No.5040212]

>>5040111
Define, what is making it. Set an objective accordingly. Any mission has to have a success criteria, otherwise it is waste of resources.


Then, brainstorm ways to make it. Implement the most reasonable way. Fail at it, implement the second most reasonable way.
Rinse, repeat, until the success criteria is met.

[Anonymous No.5040218]

>>5040212
I don't think I'm that bad, but as soon as I get out my comfort zone I just don't know what to do anymore

[Anonymous No.5040239]

>>5040184
have you look at the Anatomy for Sculptors book?

[Anonymous No.5040245]

op was a fag in /fit/ so I drew him as pepe

[Anonymous No.5040279]

>>5040090
Pls give some feedback anyone, I still feel like I'm not really progressing much

[Anonymous No.5040300]

what kind of brush is being used here and how could I replicate something similar in csp?

I feel like it's either a waterbrush or maybe even an airbrush? or is it a pencil brush?

[Anonymous No.5040304]

>>5039931
something like this, i couldnt do it with your arms lenght.... feel the forms

[Anonymous No.5040310]

>>5040279
It looks ok, the placement of the arms are a little weird. Is she shrugging, if so the shoulders can be place a little higher. The way you drew the shirt and her left(right side) arm looks weird as well. Play with the color more right now it just looks flat.

[Anonymous No.5040312]

>>5040184
big yikes, you have all the answers in your ref

[Anonymous No.5040315]

>>5040279
youa re the nigga that made a thread just for the arm? you still stuck since then?

[Anonymous No.5040330]

>>5039635
>>>>>twitter

[Anonymous No.5040333]

[Anonymous No.5040337]

>>5040137
I think the male anatomy is perhaps more complex in terms of its musculature but if you draw a ripped dude you can get away with some mistakes because at the end of it he'll likely still look like the hulk where minor mistakes in the female figure often lose a lot of the grace that your typically looking for.

[Anonymous No.5040338]

>>5040315
Yeah it was me, I don't have a lot of time to draw, actually with this one I spent a lot of time coloring, but then It was taking too long and kind of rushed it all at the end just to post. Now I feel bad.

[Anonymous No.5040343]

>>5040338
>I don't have a lot of time to draw

[Anonymous No.5040346]

>>5040310
Thanks, she's not really shrugging, more like when you're concentrating on something and lower your head y'know. Wanted to add some kind of lines that made her hand look shaky but forgot cause I'm dumb. For the left arm I mean, nothing shows, and I kind of covered it with an "oversized t-shirt", which looks bad tho so it came out weird. For the colors yeah, I rushed them, don't know how to render much.

[Anonymous No.5040350]

>>5040343
Yeah I know, I don't even do the whole lineart in a single day.

[Anonymous No.5040414]

>>5039737
I like it.
>>5040113
You are on the right path pal.

[Anonymous No.5040436]

>>5040337
You can also draw chads with grace, just look at Steve Hustons paintings.

[Anonymous No.5040522]

Suggestions / Critiques?

[Anonymous No.5040526]

>>5040522
work on your overlaps

[Anonymous No.5040555]

Am I doing this correctly? I'm practicing the "Vilppu bean" thing. Please and thank you!

[Anonymous No.5040557]

>>5040555
Uhm, sorry about the picture being messed up

[Anonymous No.5040575]

>>5040414
>You are on the right path pal.
Thanks! I did a quick study before bed. Im getting a lot better at copying stuff, though the muscles on the male are tough

[Anonymous No.5040607]

Sketching my way out of a slump

[Anonymous No.5040624]

I'm feeling the form

[Anonymous No.5040626]

>>5039467
Was listening to /x/ green texts and made this. Kind of just went with the flow of the brush and tried to make everything warp around the forest spirit thing. Also I know the right hand is fucked up

[Anonymous No.5040627]

Gonna repost

Have only just started inking. Have only just started trying to use my tablet and CSP. Still getting the hang of it.

How can i go from this

[Anonymous No.5040628]

>>5040627
To something more like these?

I really love the thick black lines.

Is it just something I have to get used to or is there a specific brush(type) that I should be using?

Will it look better once I add even just a flat colours to it?

[Anonymous No.5040633]

>>5039911
head looks plastered onto the body because of the lack of neck and different style, right forearm's hand twist looks uncomfortable, right eye might be too far outward, some emphasis on ankles and tail would be nice, but really just nitpicks overall. what's your reference?

[Anonymous No.5040640]

>>5040300
darker pencil, mess around with the settings

[Anonymous No.5040673]

>>5040090
the pupils and eyes are a bit out of shape, a huge nitpick but eyes are what people focus on first in drawings. hairstyles that have ceilings over the forehead look weird to me, and the inner far side of the hair could use more curvature and shading. the neck shadow might be too heavily shaded too.

it would be nice to see some basic collarbone shapes instead of just a flat torso. both arms are certainly passable, but the t-shirt sleeves have different have different lengths and weird shapes. left sleeve needs to be longer and the right sleeve and arm looks like its layered behind the shirt. the creasing is good otherwise though.

your style is really cool, i would love to read some webcomic like this.

[Anonymous No.5040680]

How can I make an image with a front on/head on view not look flat?

[Anonymous No.5040686]

>>5039931
>>5040300
>>5040522
Not complete beginners at art.

[Anonymous No.5040687]

First time trying watercolor.

[Anonymous No.5040689]

>>5040687
cute touhou

[Anonymous No.5040697]

Hello again, I posted a shit drawing the thread before, some anons advised me to use a ref (I was trying to draw a face from imagination and I didn't like the idea of using refs), but holy shit, I just used a ref, and I feel like I somewhat understand what I'm doing, this is a recent one. (Ignore the stupid clothing, I was just trying somethings and I failed)

[Anonymous No.5040701]

>>5040697
This is the shit drawing I was trying to pull off, I went back to fix somethings, not perfect, still missing things, but I'm very tired since I just cameback from work. I wanna kiss and suck each anon cock from the thread before. (I still have a long way, but I'm happy.) I will use ref to study, then draw from imagination.

[Anonymous No.5040714]

>>5040350
I feel you, man. even on the weekends, I sometimes work from home. sucks to be a software engineer sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5040763]

>>5040522
Fuck you, not beg

[Anonymous No.5040764]

is this considered a painting? it seems to be somewhere between painting and anime but was wondering if there was a name for it so I could look up tutorials for how to do similar things

[Anonymous No.5040766]

>>5040764
>it seems to be somewhere between painting and anime
Words cannot describe how stupid you are.

[Anonymous No.5040767]

>>5040764
I have no words anon. LOL

[Anonymous No.5040768]

Fuck hands

[Anonymous No.5040787]

>>5040764
anon it has to be on a real canvas to be a painting

[Anonymous No.5040789]

>>5040768
it's called masturbation

[Anonymous No.5040791]

>>5040787
Trad fag found

[Anonymous No.5040794]

>>5040764
Anon...

[Anonymous No.5040868]

Did warm up lines and circles. It's shit
Did some warm up gesture. It's shit
Did a portrait. It's shit
Did a full body. It's shit.

But it's okay, I had fun with my pencil.

[Anonymous No.5040874]

>>5040868
Made it

[Anonymous No.5040877]

Still at the sketching phase.
I would like feedback on it before I go further with it. Anything would be appreciated. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.5040878]

Still at the sketching phase.
I would like feedback on it before I go further with it. Anything would be appreciated.
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.5040884]

>>5040697
Please tell me that's vampire chael sonnen jek

[Anonymous No.5040894]

[Anonymous No.5040896]

>>5040894

[Anonymous No.5040905]

>>5040894
>>5040896
kek

[Anonymous No.5040906]

Oh great, another artist who has a successful career and has a perfect grasp of all the fundamentals of art and they can make amazing professional work all while they're under 20 meanwhile I will probably be stuck for years in /beg/

What the actual fuck honestly? Yes I'm bitter

[Anonymous No.5040908]

>>5040906
You wouldn't make a big deal of comparing 80 year old's with 70 year old's.

[Anonymous No.5041122]

>>5040906
from what I've gathered it's all about having fun and actually drawing shit you enjoy but sometimes I get lazy and give up for a few days

[Anonymous No.5041142]

>>5040627
Line work pretty much done for now.

How do I paint? No experience working colours in programs. Or at all really.

I would really just be happy adding flat layers with some basic shading but I really don't know how layers work or layer types.

[Anonymous No.5041156]

i go to a hell college where i barely have any free time. my drawing is pretty shit and i wanna get better in my downtime
what should i do to learn my fundies (and in what order, probably) without wanting to kill myself and still enjoy drawing?

[Anonymous No.5041184]

>>5041156
Drawing for fun is by no means at odds with improving. That said, you will want to avoid drawing people until you actually have the time to spend studying them in depth, because drawing shitty figures for years out of a lack of free time is soul sucking as opposed to the few months it might take to draw decent figures have you the free time to actually study them. The only must have fundie is perspective, Perspective Made Easy by E. Norling should be enough for the most part. But beyond that, draw for fun. Draw while keeping in mind the things you draw are 3D forms. Draw things as if they're see through if you struggle with that, or box them in or give the forms harder edges in order to visualize it better. Draw things you enjoy drawing, and don't worry too much about anything else until you have the free time to do so.

[Anonymous No.5041194]

>>5041184
thanks :)
i'll def check the book out

[Anonymous No.5041198]

>>5041142
You can color in flats more than one way (indeed some people do it how they'd do it traditionally, following closely with a brush, negating all the possible benefits of digital).
The way I do it is with the select tool and a different layer for each different flat, all behind my outline layer. You can save your selections for the shading as well.
If you can't figure out layers by yourself you need to try a little harder, it's not rocket science. Layer types are not important for now (I assume you mean masks etc? you can google how those work, it depends on the program)

[Anonymous No.5041217]

bros is the pose ok? anatomy looks fucky too

[Anonymous No.5041221]

>>5041217
the left foot looks off, maybe the right one a little bit as well

[Anonymous No.5041228]

>>5041217

[Anonymous No.5041311]

hi guys I'm back

ran out of space again and fucked the left leg up

[Anonymous No.5041327]

>>5040878
its so cute <3 just keep drawing and studying the human figure, and you'll do alright

[Anonymous No.5041371]

>>5040766
>>5040767
>>5040794
first time doing anything with color so not really sure what I'm doing, sorry for the extra chromie
Doesn't the part circled look more like a painting than what you would get through the normal lineart -> color in -> shade process of anime?
>>5040787
isn't there something called digital painting?

[Anonymous No.5041378]

>>5041371
not everything has a name or belongs to a rigid category. this is why your question is stupid.

[Anonymous No.5041403]

I'm a /beg/ at coloring limited the palette to 5 colors.

[Anonymous No.5041404]

I need to stop with the coom! Or advance my coom and draw actual sex instead of just ... establishing scenarios.

[Anonymous No.5041406]

>>5041404
Tits too round, unless they're supposed to be fake and nasty

[Anonymous No.5041484]

I've gotten okay at copying study material without tracing and identifying the shapes. It's kind of fun to try and match it too. But is it really making me into a better artist or just a photo copier?

[Anonymous No.5041489]

>>5041371
>>5041378
There actually is sort of a name (though to my knowledge not one in english) for that painted anime style, japanese artists call it 厚塗り. I basically only see it used to describe anime style digital art though I think may have originally referred to traditional. If you're reading a translated tutorial they may call it 'thick paint'. It's not always as painterly as the girl with the sunflowers up there though.
They have many categories for this kind of thing there. Main ones are the ones in the graphic to the side (厚塗り is top middle if you're too lazy to pick out moonrunes), the rest being galge/visual novel style, black and white (manga style),
anime style (so cel shading essentially) and water colour.
I see even more listed sometimes, like the style used in LN illustrations or for the covers of TL (women's erotica) comics.
The categories aren't that strict but it might be useful to know they exist if you're trying to parse japanese turorials. If you're a total beginner I wouldn't worry about it too much though.

[Anonymous No.5041525]

>>5041489
I wrote that kind of confusing so I'll just translate the image. There might be more agreed on translations for these but I don't know what they are.

[Anonymous No.5041528]

>>5041198
>the select tool
ah trying to get used to it. It either selects too much of the line work or not enough and leaves free pixels from where I've gone over lines to thicken them or for feathering.

Is it normal to have to fiddle with selecting for a while to get everything?

>I assume you mean masks etc?
Yeah. I guess I'll have to sit down and watch a thesis about them and what they do at some point. Honestly it almost looks easier to just ink and watercolour photocopies of my sketches.

[Anonymous No.5041543]

[Anonymous No.5041571]

I tried for the first time in a long time to draw pose from imagination, no references at all.
How'd I do? I kind of like it, but theres probably something I dont see thats wrong. I know I had problems finding out where the illiac crest would show and the boobs

[Anonymous No.5041573]

>>5040098
Jazz.

[Anonymous No.5041588]

>>5041528
Ah I think I wasn't very clear, by select tool I mean the lasso tool, the one where you draw the selection yourself. Super easy and fast with a stylus.
Masks and stuff are pretty simple, but you do have to see how it's done. It's basically a 10 min youtube guide, nothing hard.
Digital has its drawbacks but it also makes a lot of things easier and faster, which IMO can really give a boost to the overall quality of your work. I'd say stick with it a while, see what it can offer once you're a little used to it

[Anonymous No.5041593]

>>5041588
Hey thanks for the replies anon. You actually gave me some encouragement to tough it out. I know it's just a case of trial and error and looking for the right guides to get an idea how.

I'll try the lasso tool. At a glance that seemed the more time consuming and fiddly of the two options.

[Anonymous No.5041597]

>>5039467
Not at all the sort of thing I usually draw.
I'd be very interested in feedback since it turned out to be very satisfying to draw- one layer, no need to erase or touch up anything, pretty liberating to get out of my system.

[Anonymous No.5041599]

>>5040098
post more on 4chan

[Anonymous No.5041605]

[Anonymous No.5041607]

>>5040098
I take breaks to jerk off and it makes me want to draw more

[Anonymous No.5041619]

Does anyone happen to have reference poses with both dramatic foreshortening and backgrounds with stuff in it? I want to work on building an environment from an angle

[Anonymous No.5041621]

ugh... spinebros?

[Anonymous No.5041622]

>>5041571
Made her ass to big (or disproportionate?), fixed it.

[Anonymous No.5041636]

>>5041621
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.5041641]

ah fuck
I don’t know what I’m doing

[Anonymous No.5041642]

>>5041605
hey those look pretty cool

[Anonymous No.5041647]

Just to remind people vipplu is doing a free livestream today at noon. Here is the link https://live.nma.art/4652311212020/

[Anonymous No.5041652]

>>5041642
Thanks! I'm trying to figure out how to draw background assets. I'd like to add more volume and learn how to make assets that can blend in with each other.

[Anonymous No.5041660]

Something is wrong with this one. For context, it's supposed to be magical / fairytale-inspired fields. On a hunch I would say the paths aren't dividing the space correctly and it makes the piece look bad but I have no clue how to fix that.

[Anonymous No.5041661]

>>5041660
>Something is wrong with this one. For context, it's supposed to be magical / fairytale-inspired fields. On a hunch I would say the paths aren't dividing the space correctly and it makes the piece look bad but I have no clue how to fix that.
Forgot to upload the actual thing.

[Anonymous No.5041670]

>>5041647
Can’t watch unfortunately
Have class

[Anonymous No.5041677]

Holy shit /beg/, hate to blog, but I passed the bar exam!

[Anonymous No.5041684]

>>5041677
No offense but being a lawyer sounds so soulless

[Anonymous No.5041689]

>>5041677
Dang, congrats dude! It's not something I would imagine myself doing but if it's your calling great job!

[Anonymous No.5041695]

>>5041406
Better?

[Anonymous No.5041697]

>>5041677
Grat dude.
>>5041684
Bitter

[Anonymous No.5041716]

>>5041593
No problem man, I got similar encouragement here a while back and just paying it forward. Perhaps there are cleverer ways to do it, but I don't know them, I am sure you will find what works for you if you look long enough. Good luck

[Anonymous No.5041744]

How do I make interesting and recognizable characters using an anime or semi-realistic art style instead of a more cartoony one?

For example I don't like most modern weeb art styles but I really dig the designs and art of Made In Abyss despite the characters having almost standard nu-anime faces, why is that?

[Anonymous No.5041748]

>>5041142
Aside from the lasso option OP pointed out, you can use actual brush strokes.
Use as many separate layers as you need. Rule of thumb: do not ever paint different textures on the same layer, in case you need to touch up the color of a texture in particular without affecting the rest of the picture.
You can add shading by painting with a darker color, or using layers (adjust opacity as needed). You can use a multiply layer to get more vibrant shadows, or use a soft black brush on a soft light layer for less saturated dark tones.
For highlights, I usually rely on one or several soft light layers with a pale yellow/orange-ish soft brush. White or pastel blue for cold lighting. Some people use white on an overlay layer.
I recommend finding a couple generic brushes you really like for coloring. You can stick to the normal round brush but it's nice to work with something you really like. I'm a fan of oil brushes myself.
Also you'll want some texture brushes to make coloring easier. Having something like a freckle / multiple dots brush, a scar / scrapes brush and a couple random splashes / damage brushes can be really neat to make a texture feel more alive.

[Anonymous No.5041755]

>Fucked up an entire arm and have to redraw the whole thing when I was about to ink

[Anonymous No.5041759]

>>5041621
Pic of what happens to your mom when I step on a crack

[Anonymous No.5041772]

>>5041684
try working in public accounting

>>5041695
much, i love the shape. maybe add some abdomen definition

[Anonymous No.5041777]

>>5041772
Maybe being a CPA is why I feel so compelled to draw this coom stuff.

[Anonymous No.5041779]

I drew a funny person lmao

[Anonymous No.5041781]

>>5041744
Stop thinking anime vs cartoons, it's sad and irrelevant. Start thinking about silhouette, shapes, value & color

[Anonymous No.5041783]

>>5041327
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.5041786]

>>5041779
That's actually cool.
Always been impressed by that sort of style, it has personality with just a few lines.

[Anonymous No.5041799]

>>5041228
African head

[Anonymous No.5041830]

Would this be a good path for a beg?
1. Keys to drawing
2a. Fun with a pencil
2b. DaB
3. Figure drawing for all its worth

[Anonymous No.5041861]

>>5041830
What kind of art do you want to draw?

[Anonymous No.5041882]

>>5039635
Man this was one of the most innocuous things I've posted here and people seem so riled up about it. I didn't know the system was this easy to game.

[Anonymous No.5041907]

>>5039693

[Anonymous No.5041919]

>>5041907
It's fine

[Anonymous No.5041925]

Stuff like pic related, western fantasy and maybe sci fi

[Anonymous No.5041928]

>>5041925
what about it

[Anonymous No.5041929]

>>5039693
>>/ic/thread/S5028752

[Anonymous No.5041931]

Can I please get some critique and help? I really dont know what to do with the arms, and I feel like something is off but I cant tell.
I tried to challenge myself and draw only from imagination (except for the hands) but I think I obviously still need to study how arms work more

[Anonymous No.5041937]

>>5041928
>>5041925
whoops meant for >>5041861
Some of my favorite contemporary artists are Rebecca gray, seb McKinnon, and mike mignola

[Anonymous No.5041939]

>>5041931
just pose yourself and find out what positions you want to put the hands and arms in

[Anonymous No.5041942]

Why do people keep ignoring my posts? It used to be that people would help me with their crit, but for the last 3 things I've posted it's like I'm shadowbanned

[Anonymous No.5041948]

>>5041937
If you want to learn figure drawing then those books are a good place to start. Also if you can get some of the video courses you should watch those as well.

[Anonymous No.5041951]

>>5039467
wtf!? it is totally different from drawing on paper. it is like trying to draw with my left hand. is this suppose to be this hard?

[Anonymous No.5041952]

>>5041942
must be posting at a different time when people are on here, also the holidays are coming up so people might be busy.

[Anonymous No.5041953]

>>5041951
I have the same problem, you just need to get use to it and also adjust the settings to your liking.

[Anonymous No.5041954]

>>5041777
>he passed the CPA exam
i still need to take the gre and get master's before i can take it because of my shithole state, which is why i want to abandon the corporate hellscape entirely.

i still have no idea why i got my degree in accounting. i fucking hate everything to do with it now.

[Anonymous No.5041957]

>>5041942
maybe what you draw is too stylized or is not a human figure? I don't get much critique either, most of my problems might be resolved with 'lol just learn to draw a box' so i kind of understand.
I wonder if I start designing guns i'll get a /k/ autist to sperg on it and get critique.

[Anonymous No.5041958]

>>5041952
Time makes sense as I am from eastern Europe. What times is this board most active?

[Anonymous No.5041960]

>>5041957
That's not the problem, I'm >>5040333, should be right up /beg/'s alley

[Anonymous No.5041961]

>>5041958
don't know really maybe 7 pm est or around there?

[Anonymous No.5041964]

>>5041961
Cool next time I'll keep that in mind, thanks

[Anonymous No.5041966]

>>5041960
lol, you didn't ask for a critique. I'm guessing that is why people ignore you.

[Anonymous No.5041968]

>>5041957
>>5041952
>>5041942
The best way to get critique or an answer on the internet is to provide an answer or critique that is obviously false so autists will be more likely to correct the mistake
It's called murphy's law

[Anonymous No.5041969]

>>5041951
time to neck yourself anon, I think its a revelation that you'll never make it

[Anonymous No.5041978]

>>5041489
>>5041525
thanks anon, I'll look into it, not expecting to be able to do it immediately, just nice to have a direction so ik how to search for tutorials, thanks

[Anonymous No.5041982]

>>5041931
right shoulder is causing some problems with the right torso side and arm shape, making it look like like she's trying to fist her tailbone. tiddy might be extending too far into it too. the abdomen to the waist looks disjointed as well.

but goddamn, for imagination pulling off the midna crown hat thing alone is impressive

[Anonymous No.5041987]

Why is it that I can never get the proportions or positioning right when drawing from reference? Do I just need to keep practicing or is there something else I should be doing first?

[Anonymous No.5041989]

>>5041982
Thanks for this. Im reworking her entire right arm as of right now, how should I go about fixing the disjointed abdomen and waist? Just move the waist up a little bit higher?
>but goddamn, for imagination pulling off the midna crown hat thing alone is impressive
I spent too much time in midna threads on /v/

[Anonymous No.5041993]

>>5041966
I thought that was implicit by posting in this thread? Even so, previous times I made legit questions and I still got ignored

[Anonymous No.5041997]

>>5041987
Take a step back and try not to copy mechanically. Tell yourself it's ok to be inaccurate if that helps communicate the general feeling of what you're referencing better

[Anonymous No.5041998]

>>5041987
GRID
R
I
D

[Anonymous No.5042009]

>>5041993
I usually try to give a critique when they ask for it. Other than that I just assume they want to show off their drawing.

[Anonymous No.5042015]

>>5041989
that will help, you still need to reflect the twist and pull inward from her upper body. i'm trying to find a good reference while i'm at work but all the ones in similar positions are covering up their their abdomens with gigantic hypertits.

[Anonymous No.5042017]

>>5041998
Grid is small-brain move, if you use it you will only need to outgrow it eventually and it will be painful. You shouldn't be that scared of going out of proportion

[Anonymous No.5042020]

>>5041987
the Keys to Drawing book will help you immensly with observing and measuring proportions. Make sure to do all the exercises. Should be in the artbooks thread

[Anonymous No.5042025]

>>5042015
Cool, no worries. Im gonna finish the arm and take a break and work on this later today

[Anonymous No.5042037]

>>5042015
>i'm trying to find a good reference while i'm at work but all the ones in similar positions are covering up their their abdomens with gigantic hypertits.

Godspeed

[Anonymous No.5042039]

>>5041954
Yeah. 17 years ago. I’m an oldfag. I’d advise getting out now. I’ve made decent money with minimal effort, but at the expense of my pride because I never really advanced. If you want to succeed in public accounting, you have to accept being the most aggressively pedantic mother fucker imaginable. If there’s a part of your brain that can say “this is stupid” you’re NGMI.

[Anonymous No.5042040]

>>5040884
I don't think so I just googled Dracula

[Anonymous No.5042043]

>>5042039
Actually, let me add my mistake was being a career auditor. A lot of people just audit for a few years and aggressively network to launch into a role at a client. Although it’ll usually still be accounting related. Maybe compliance or internal control. If any of that appeals to you, and you’re a good drinking buddy, go for it.

[Anonymous No.5042057]

Need help with proportions, arms, legs.... style.

[Anonymous No.5042062]

>>5039911
>>5040633

Thanks anon,
Here is the reference

[Anonymous No.5042070]

Why do all of my face drawings look awful when I draw them from imagination?

[Anonymous No.5042071]

>>5040878
Update.
Looking for any kind of feedback.

[Anonymous No.5042076]

>>5042043
i find the entire concept of career networking to be akin to sociopathy. i hate faking myself, no way in hell can I do it.

>>5042062
very good with mixing up the gesture like that with leaning back a bit.

[Anonymous No.5042079]

>>5042070
have you even gone through fun with a pencil?

[Anonymous No.5042080]

AAAAAAAGHUHHGGHHGUA OBOGOOAAA GGUUHUHUHUAMMM AAA A AA GHGH

[Anonymous No.5042083]

>>5042079
I can copy them from a reference photo but not when I try to make them with nothing

[Anonymous No.5042087]

>>5042083
i will ask the same thing, have you even gone through fun with a pencil? yes or no

[Anonymous No.5042089]

>>5042057
looks ok need to work on the shoulder area

[Anonymous No.5042093]

>>5041371
I think the term you want is "painterly"

[Anonymous No.5042099]

>>5042087
I've gone through the preston blair book that shows the same construction method.

[Anonymous No.5042103]

>>5042080
based schizo anon

[Anonymous No.5042106]

>>5042099
then deconstruct someones stylized face and construct it again for your drawing

[Anonymous No.5042132]

>>5040414
thank you!

did another nun for today's watercolor, tried experimenting with some oil paint techniques. I feel like I'm abysmal at faces and flesh tones in general, anyone have pointers?

[Anonymous No.5042140]

>>5042070
>>5042106
critique?

[Anonymous No.5042146]

>>5042140
Why her right eye is going all the way up, everything else seems ok

[Anonymous No.5042164]

>>5042146
uh, do you mean this

[Anonymous No.5042184]

>>5039467
Just a sketch I did

[Anonymous No.5042192]

Be honest

[Anonymous No.5042193]

>>5042192
Ref?

[Anonymous No.5042196]

>>5042192
hands and feet are tiny af, weird ampit thing, drooping butt

[Anonymous No.5042229]

>>5042025
Redid the entire right arm and tried to fix the torso/hips situation. Hows it look?
Is it possible to have to study where hands should be? I didnt really intend to do a double peace sign with the hands but its the only thing I could think that the other hand was doing.
Last time I ask for critique with this piece, i dont want to spam the thread

[Anonymous No.5042238]

>>5042140
the hair on the far side could be redone and the shoulder is wonky, but the hand is decent and the style is cute

[Anonymous No.5042250]

Pencil drawing. The values look a lot better irl, the camera always decreases the contrast.

[Anonymous No.5042253]

>>5042140

[Anonymous No.5042254]

>>5042250
I dont think Im good enough to critique but this is cool
Maybe make your arrow shafts cylinders and not a line though.

[Anonymous No.5042260]

I'll get better with faces one day

[Anonymous No.5042263]

>>5042229
way better

you can give the middle and index fingers some more definition, right hand needs the same amount of detail and line pressure as left hand too. right thumb looks a bit flat. maybe give the collarbones some definition too. very small suggestions and nitpicks though, especially from imagination.

[Anonymous No.5042268]

>>5042263
Thank you!
I plan on redoing the lineart by tracing over top of it on a new layer(Is it called inking? line-arting?) so its cleaner. The hands are pretty messy because of how much I was messing around with their positioning

[Anonymous No.5042271]

>>5042260
mouths in particular

[Anonymous No.5042276]

>>5042271
I wish
I cant even do this and I try to pay attention to the line weignt and angle too. I just tried adding more line weight to the mouth I drew for the red head and erases it cus it didnt look right
Literally impossible

[Anonymous No.5042287]

>>5042260
Shade the hair and neck better, otherwise this is high /int/ coomwork

[Anonymous No.5042300]

>>5042260
This is high beg or low int?

[Anonymous No.5042303]

What is the fastest and easiest way to realize the ideas I have in my head? I don't care about authenticity or putting in the hard work. I want to use all the available knowledge and technology to bypass the time and effort. The closest thing I do is commissioning other artists, but what would be another alternative?

[Anonymous No.5042326]

getting used to holding my pencil overhand
are my figures coming along?

[Anonymous No.5042328]

>>5042287
>>5042300
noo

[Anonymous No.5042332]

>>5042287
>>5042300
Stop trying to force the retarded ranking meme. You do it for laughs in the rating thread, but it means absolutely nothing otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5042358]

>>5042287
Low standard coomer.

[Anonymous No.5042424]

>>5042303
I think you need to specify, this is very confusing. You want to make a quick buck? This is a place for beginners, where the main objective is to improve at drawing.

[Anonymous No.5042425]

>>5042303
Meditation.

[Anonymous No.5042440]

>>5042260
In what world is this beg? Fuck off with your humblebrag

[Anonymous No.5042443]

God I fucking hate this thread
Every time I come here for advice I see bunch of intoids dabbing on actual begs and it kills any motivation to post here

[Anonymous No.5042449]

>>5042443
Bad attitude to have. You should be inspired by work thats better then yours, and strive to reach that level. Not discouraged by it

[Anonymous No.5042456]

>>5042443
not sure why you think living in your own mediocre bubble would be beneficial for you, if you see other begs like you improve faster what you gonna do? keep crying?

[Anonymous No.5042458]

>>5042440
Notto disu shitto agen

[Anonymous No.5042473]

>>5041953
for a moment I was afraid that it was broken, I guess it is just that I suck.

>>5041969
>implying I had any hope before.

[Anonymous No.5042521]

>>5041951
well obviously up the resolution by a whole bunch to start with. biggest difference from trad to digital is the feel of friction. you need to draw with some kind of smoothing which kind of simulates this, but not really. it'll make lines smoother and easier to control, but it won't have the same feel. You don't really need to use digital for sketching ever though, that's something I figured out. Just scan or take a picture of your sketch on paper and paint digitally. there are pros' to digital sketching though, the brushes, the cost, ctrl-z, opacity erase, liquefy and transform etc. It's a tool and in some aspects it's going to be better, and in others it's going to be worse. Great artists usually spread themselves wide across mediums though.

[Anonymous No.5042532]

>>5042443
"beg" is quite a vague term you know. There's always more to learn. Look at this guy here >>5042440 saying that shit up there isn't beg-tier. Really? Look at the faces, it's horrible.
I'm NOT trying to shit on anyone here, just making you understand that unless you get to a really GOOD level, artists are never satisfied with their art and always "beg" in a sense.

Seriously getting depressed over other people's work is among the lowest things you can do. At least get mad at stuff like "fuck my job" or "fuck I wish I had more time" instead of getting mad at other artists trying their best. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.5042547]

beginner is anyone starting to draw, if you're into your second month gtfo

[Anonymous No.5042552]

>>5042547
what if i haven't improved after 5 years?

[Anonymous No.5042555]

>>5042552
doesnt matter, beginner you are not, maybe a retard would be a better classification

[Anonymous No.5042560]

>>5042555
where's the retard general?

[Anonymous No.5042562]

>>5042560
somewhere on reddit

[Anonymous No.5042563]

>>5042560
>>5041483

[Anonymous No.5042565]

>>5042547
Beginner is an arbitrary world to describe progression in a skill and means jack shit in the grand scheme of things. Level of skill does not correlate with time, it correlates with mileage. Once retards like you understand that they'll stop posting stupid senseless dribble in this thread and either get gud or off themselves.

[Anonymous No.5042575]

>>5042260
The /beg/let got to you huh. LMAO
>>5042287
>>5042300
>>5042440
>>5042443
>>5042547
I can tell you people how this is beg.

[Anonymous No.5042583]

>>5042565
beginner is anyone starting something, usually a hobby or some skill and usually starting something you never done before will put you in a low level of skill in that new thing you're trying out.
yes level of skill correlates with mileage, but that's the word skill, not the word beginner

[Anonymous No.5042585]

Anyone learning to draw will probably stay a beginner for a few years. What's up with you guys

[Anonymous No.5042588]

>>5042585
Only idiots not following a book and wasting precious time doodling

[Anonymous No.5042590]

>>5042583
>level of skill correlates with mileage
Is this true?

[Anonymous No.5042591]

can someone post some youtube channels/personalities/creators/artists that focus on vector graphics? Tutorials, explanations, demos, blogs, reviews. I'm trying to absorb a bunch of information because I'm brand new to this and have autism.

I'm focused on vector graphics in inkscape to create various stickers and logos.

[Anonymous No.5042592]

>>5042588
You say that but you’ll be in this thread two years from now unless you gave up by then. Drawing will help you more than books.
>wasting precious time
Rich reading that here on 4chan

[Anonymous No.5042598]

>>5042592
im not the one trying to develop a skill, i already did my fair share of grinding to get where i am now so i can use my free time after work with whatever shit i want, unlike the people here who everyday opens a new thread crying why they never improve

[Anonymous No.5042599]

>>5042598
Big talk for someone who hasn’t shared their work here in /beg/

[Anonymous No.5042601]

>>5042599
yep, big talk, pay me and i will post my work here, 200$

[Anonymous No.5042602]

>>5042547
i think this is the ultimate crab, lmao. it takes some people years to get to int. not that it is a fine line, it's quite arbitrary. Also there is no way to actually tell where someone's skill level is by an anonymous post with a picture. An absolute beginner could make something half decent by carefully erasing and sculpting lines from a ref until something looks alright. That doesn't' mean he could draw in any way like pros could. Hell, people make great money by just tracing everything.

idk what my point is even, time drawn is not an indicator at least. especially the early stages where the most progress is made, one month can range from 30 hours oe 200 hours or even more and obviously the one with 200 would have way more mileage.

[Anonymous No.5042604]

>>5042601
>begging for money too
Lol. You’re a beg like the rest of us, get over yourself kid.

[Anonymous No.5042611]

>>5042590
Ask literally any professional artist and the answer is yes. Work hard

[Anonymous No.5042612]

>>5042604
>a person who is starting to do something or learn something for the first time:
-Dictionary
Technically it's about starting to do something or learn something, so if any /beg/ poster is in here on their 5th year you technically isn't a beginner but just the adult with white belt for the 5th year playing with kids because you're a pedo

[Anonymous No.5042623]

>>5042612
Your nonsensical conclusion shows how much a schizo you are. Not arguing with you further because you just brought up the definition proving yourself wrong. Go see a shrink since you have pedos and kids on your mind.

[Anonymous No.5042625]

>>5042623
lol did i put an ant under your ass?

[Anonymous No.5042648]

Please do not respond to the ESL crab. Thank you

[Anonymous No.5042651]

>>5042611
>tfw your hand and wrists start cramping after two hours every time you draw

[Anonymous No.5042656]

Are you guys going through any art courses atm? I’m still going through brents figure drawing course, I reached the feet part and it’s not gonna go well

[Professional Coomer No.5042660]

>>5042260
Standard: CSR high-int
1. OP laser-focuses on drawing waifus. He probably can't draw anything else (my assumption)
2. The anatomy is passable, except hands and feet. That's why he hid all the hands on the pic related. The body is still stiff. I can't see the fat from the body interact with the tight legging and belt. OP also draw some ugly-ass big stiff areola. I personally want to throw up every time I see those.
3. The linework lack that motion/flow/dynamic comparing to CSR. It's the result of the artist's shit taste in manga (Fairy Tail/ One Piece)
4. The zick-zack drapery/folds on the skirt look unconvincing. Moreover, the way the cloaks interact with the boobs is just wrong. The artist definitely needs to read "Dynamic Wrinkles".
5. OP still can't grasp how light interacts with the objects - the 2 girls. The shading look flat because OP shaded with gray.
I can nit pick more, but I think that's enough
Rating: 5/10 - Coomable

[Anonymous No.5042671]

>>5042651
Draw from your elbow or shoulder.

[Anonymous No.5042678]

>>5042660
I understand you’re trying to critique me but you made some assumptions I’m not a fan of
Hands and feet are something I don’t purposely try to hide, in this case I was trying to figure out a pose I liked and went with it, so two out of four hands ended up hidden. I’m okay with showing that I’m bad at drawing hands, I do claim I’m a novice after all.
>CSR
I appreciate you comparing me with an artist who’s much more experienced and older than me but he tends to draw series I’m familiar with and probably enjoyed in the past. I like a lot of series ranging from redline to madoka magica, FoTN, HXH etc
But yeah I don’t know clothes, gesture well and other things
Also I did not share with Gray, the sfw version was a last minute color slap on. This was the original version. Currently doing my daily traditional gesture and figure practice which I even posted above because I know I need practice

[Anonymous No.5042685]

Also forgot to mention for the stockings, yeah that part was definitely lazy of me. I put no time into them

[Anonymous No.5042687]

>>5042678
lol seethe

[Anonymous No.5042690]

>>5042671
smol tablet

[Anonymous No.5042695]

>>5042687
A normal reply discussing their critique is seething to you? Oh

[Anonymous No.5042701]

>>5042687
Go away.

[Anonymous No.5042704]

>>5042678
Honestly, I could cum to this. Good job

[Anonymous No.5042718]

>>5042704

[Anonymous No.5042729]

First time drawing anime girl

[Anonymous No.5042769]

Hello everyone, posting this even tho it's not finished cause i'm a cunt beg. Hope you like it.

[Anonymous No.5042783]

>>5040673
Thanks a lot anon, sorry for the late reply, didn't check the thread till now. I really appreciate your comment.
For the eyes I messed up with the layers cause I'm dumb. For the sleeves nothing to say, just did them wrong like you said.
Btw the dark under the neck is a "choice of style", maybe it's shitty but idk I like it.

[Anonymous No.5042793]

AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I CAN'T DO IT
BUT I WILL DO IT
This drawing.. this sketch was beyond my current skill level. Actually doing the lineart is too much for my brain, and I'm sure I could be doing something better with the arms but the dress is difficult enough

[Anonymous No.5042806]

>>5042793
you are almost to the final stretch anon! do the lineart and polish it like a turd

[Anonymous No.5042845]

>>5042651
why are you so weak? are you a female girl?

[Anonymous No.5042871]

>>5042678
How long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.5042881]

>>5042192
>>5042196
I fixed some stuff

[Anonymous No.5042883]

>>5042678
> trying to
Okay. Just forget everything I said.

[Anonymous No.5042885]

>>5042845
Should I just upgrade to a medium version?

[Anonymous No.5042888]

>>5042793
i would change the right arm to a less confusing motion, something similar to the left arm. otherwise, fantastic work with proportions, fabric and ribbons. are you using a reference?

[Anonymous No.5042890]

>>5042268
Its over
Pose entirely from imagination as a challenge.
Ref only used for hands and colours
C&c please

[Anonymous No.5042893]

>>5042885
I've been using the exact same one since I started 5 months ago. It's carpal tunnel incarnate and limits my drawing speed compared to regular pen and paper, but I would honestly keep it until you can find a good deal on a good pro tablet, at least medium.

[Anonymous No.5042900]

>>5042871
Jan 2019

[Anonymous No.5042905]

[Anonymous No.5042906]

>>5042888
I think I'll do that. Thanks and no not really! I started doing this drawing because I liked this artwork (pic related) but I haven't looked at it while drawing, it's just inspiration.

Now I see that artwork is asymmetrical while my girl is perfectly straight looking at the camera, so I should make both arms equal, they are different drawings yeah.
Redid the lineart tons of times to get the legs right.

[Anonymous No.5042916]

[Anonymous No.5042935]

>>5042893
Is this any good?
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Digital-Graphic-Drawing-PTH660/dp/B01MQU5LW7

[Anonymous No.5042936]

Depth comes from construction and perspective and overlapping things to give the illusion of 3d space.

I was told this could give my art more depth. Are there any books or videos that embody this? Maybe that beg Loomis book?

[Anonymous No.5042979]

[Anonymous No.5042983]

>>5042979
I'm still really bad at getting the right body proportions sometimes. Drawing the subtle curves of the arms and legs is hard

[Anonymous No.5042985]

I think this might be my first time drawing a dog. Please be kind.

[Anonymous No.5042987]

>>5042983
need to learn some anatomy to do them anon, hampton might help you

[Anonymous No.5043011]

>>5040090
lots of talent. Whats your discord?

[Anonymous No.5043110]

The Akechi guy actually give up huh? Shame.

[Anonymous No.5043111]

>>5040148
That's a killer 1 month start, no joke. You're using the Loomis head the best way (keep it simple, don't try to draw every plane - although you'll want to learn facial planes eventually). Your proportions are weird (this is an extremely common early issue when drawing in perspective before it becomes intuitive). Your eyes are straight up "symbol" eyes stuck on the form. Beginners tend to draw the eye shape they learned as children, because eyes are extremely complex forms involving overlapping lids, soft tissue folds, an asymmetrical shape, they have to wrap around a sphere in perspective etc. See page 53 of "Drawing the Head and Hands" by Loomis - the part where he says "No flat planes!" - that's what you're doing. If you look up Proko's "Structure of the eye" page and then also follow onto the next lesson "how to draw the eye" he has a pretty decent simplified overview that you can cruise through (don't get too deep into trying to draw a really realistic academic eye in charcoal just yet - again you'll come back to that later). You'll want to do the same for the other features and, again, really try to measure out your proportions until it becomes intuitive, but don't get sidelined from basic head constructions like you've done here - do tons and tons of them. Finesse will come with time and you're JUST at the start already killing it.

[Anonymous No.5043115]

>>5042983
You're off to a start in terms of gesture, but you're still stuck on drawing a complete outline of a person. This is a TOUGH early habit to break and it's the stage before you start to use line to really represent form and movement. I don't think you need to get TOO into anatomy just yet but I agree with other anon that Hampton is a good thing to study for you now - specifically his gesture stuff (asymmetry, S C and I curves, "indicating" forms rather than trying to draw an outline around them etc.)

[Anonymous No.5043116]

>>5042987
>>5043115
Thanks, I'll take a look at what he does

[Anonymous No.5043117]

>>5042916
The mannequin is good, but very rough. I'd spend some time on trying to tidy up your lines and get things clean before you start adding really detailed anatomy. Currently your structure isn't good enough to really support the anatomy, and you're kind of laying the anatomy over the top like a 2D texture rather than representing the forms of the muscles themselves. Don't stop learning anatomy but really focus on the structure for now, as it isn't strong enough to support that level of detail yet.

[Anonymous No.5043119]

>>5042890
Anatomy / proportions are poor, but the mask thing is in perspective, and overall this drawing is unusually appealing for the level of technical proficiency it has so you're doing great.

[Anonymous No.5043124]

>>5042881
Your rendering is great and this does have some structure but very little finesse. The leg anatomy you've added (visible gastrocnemius) is symmetrical (it shouldn't be) and is laid over the top of the form like a texture - it doesn't have form of it's own. Proportions are all over the place - I think you may be zooming in to try to really get tight lines, but when you're roughing things out you need to stay zoomed out so you can see how the proportions affect the whole. Not only are the feet far too small, they're not even the same size as eachother. The hands do not match the arm perspectives and they feel like they have balloon fingers. The close arm has the hand on backwards (I believe it's the thumb that is pointing at us... on the right arm?).

[Anonymous No.5043130]

>>5042326
They look very small. Overhand technique really lends itself to drawing BIG (get you some newsprint and an easel). It looks like you have SOME control over line but most of these appear drawn entirely with the side of the pencil so the lines are very soft and indefinite - you need to contrast hard and soft lines to represent different forms so make sure you're being conscious of that.

[Anonymous No.5043133]

>>5043124
> Gastronemius
Are you Jimmy Neutron ?

[Anonymous No.5043138]

>>5042132
This is very messy. I'd try to focus on mastering each medium as its own thing before you try to apply techniques from one medium to another. Watercolor is extremely, extremely hard (much harder than gouache or oil in my opinion) so kudos for attempting it, but keep in mind that learning to paint requires learning to draw. If you can't draw faces well, represent flesh in a tonal drawing well, you're going to have a bear of a time doing it in watercolor. If you want to improve your watercolor I'd do lots and lots of academic figure drawing - don't worry that you're wasting time if you want to be a painter, every hour spent drawing is an hour spent directly improving your ability to paint.

[Anonymous No.5043141]

>>5042057
I wouldn't dive too deep into that 2D method of constructing a body - it's not wrong per se but you're going to need to learn to construct bodies in perspective (everyone says it... cubes and cylinders) in order to improve much beyond where you're at.

[Anonymous No.5043145]

>>5039467
i am studying loomis right now and i am feeling self couscous about my work. Am i doing it right

heads small i think and some proportion problems

[Anonymous No.5043146]

>>5041987
Strongly disagree with "grid" - it's not going to improve your ability to measure by eye. What you're doing is called "comparative measurement drawing" and if you want to do great portraits without copying a photo you're going to need to learn it (technically there's also "sight-size" but I wouldn't get into that for now). Firstly... draw big on big paper when you're learning - this looks like digital but when you draw small a millimeter of error here or there could completely wreck your proportions. Do a complete, detailed line lay it before proceeding, and measure EVERYTHING ("where is this corner of the mouth relative to the eye? The nose" The jaw? Where is the jaw relative to the ear..." etc.) The further you go on the more you'll learn which proportions can be fudged a little and which ones you need to be more careful on, and you'll get better at judging relationships between features without manually measuring with a pencil.

[Anonymous No.5043151]

>>5041641
You're doing exactly the right thing, do like a hundred more of these and you'll be miles beyond this (your features could use work individually as well so take some time to study those in depth as you go).

[Anonymous No.5043152]

>>5043133
Apparently not since I mis-spelled it but the name is easy to remember since it sounds so stupid.

[Anonymous No.5043153]

>>5043145
It's a start. Don't spend too much time on 2D front facing detailed drawings like this... once you've done a few move on to constructed perspective drawings (cylinder and cube people) and then try to apply a bit of this simplified anatomy over the 3D structure.

[Anonymous No.5043157]

>>5040522
Ain't nobody in the beg thread gonna suggest you nothin'. Keep doing what you're doing these are great.

[Anonymous No.5043160]

>>5040184
Why did you start constructing the head and upper body but then just outline the legs? You're off to a great start but you need to be constructing the whole drawing.

[Anonymous No.5043161]

>>5043152
Your spelling is correct. I was trying to make a joke goddamnit.

[Anonymous No.5043165]

>>5039851
The gesture quality of the pose actually feels pretty good. The technical completion could use a lot of work (you know that) but the motion of the pose definitely comes through. Great job.

[Anonymous No.5043167]

>>5043153
can i ask a few things
is the chest to fat
is the deltoid to fat
is the groin to high

i feel like its cartoony compared to loomis but i don't know. i been trying to do it all day because loomis is new to me

[Anonymous No.5043169]

>>5039931
It's your hand. The back hand, closer to the bristles, is facing forward as though she's holding that side towards us, but the object she's holding is going away from us. This discrepancy gives a "bent" effect to the broom. Cover up that hand with your thumb - see how the perspective of the broom looks fine?

[Anonymous No.5043172]

>>5040113
You're sort of doing the right things but your wrapping lines aren't going around the forms correctly / completely. I do think you should work on normal height figures first, but doing box people for a while and focusing on making your wrapping lines complete and accurate will go a long way. (See figure lower left... wrapping lines around the head are almost straight).

[Anonymous No.5043174]

>>5043161
I was trying to joke in response lol. I did miss a C though.

[Anonymous No.5043176]

>>5043133
Ahhh nevermind you removed the C I'm a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.5043181]

>>5043167
Chest doesn't seem fat. The deltoids are too wide and very boxy. Measure the feet to the groin - that should be the same distance as the groin to the top of the head. In your case groin to feet is MUCH longer than groin to head - which could be either legs too long or groin too high. In this case I'd say it's a bit of both - mens pelvises are about a head tall, so from the hip lines to the crotch should be about a head (yours is like 2/3rds of a head), but your legs are still long.

[Anonymous No.5043202]

Am I beg

[Anonymous No.5043205]

>>5043202
yes

[Anonymous No.5043227]

How do I use the loomis head for women? It seems to be the default loomis head gives me a jaw that's way to masculine, no?

[Anonymous No.5043233]

>>5043205
yay

[Anonymous No.5043241]

>>5043202
>>5043233
Gay

[Anonymous No.5043275]

>>5042192
>>5042881
>not anime
>not coomershit
>not weird fetish shit
>just good ol' spidey
bro i am rooting for you, in a world of batshit artfags I hope you make it

[Anonymous No.5043277]

>>5043241
who told you

[Anonymous No.5043282]

>>5042935
One of the best screenless tablets, but I bet you can find a large for $300 or so

[Anonymous No.5043298]

>>5042935
Been using for 1.5 year no problem.

[Anonymous No.5043311]

>>5042729
same energy

[Anonymous No.5043365]

Watching tutorials for digital colouring

Kill me now senpaitachi

[Anonymous No.5043373]

>>5043365
pls watch tutorials for anatomy

[Anonymous No.5043378]

look

[Anonymous No.5043403]

>>5043373
Anything specifically?

I mean I know it's far from perfect and I got more than a little muddled once I started adding ontop of the anatomy and gesture but what jumps out at you as being really fucked?

[Anonymous No.5043408]

>>5043403
sorry, I don't know, plenty of things, I can't.
I don't wanna fiddle around for an hour just to end up with something barely 10% better.
was just bantz.

[Anonymous No.5043410]

>>5043403
Not the same guy, but I think the right leg is wrong, like you drew the knee going to the left, but then the foot end on the right.

[Anonymous No.5043413]

>>5043410
Or maybe are just those lines on the left that confuses me.

[Anonymous No.5043420]

>>5043408
It's okay Fren

>>5043410
Yeah the left leg is giving me grief. From the perspective to the calf and everything else.

Also just to be clear, the Knees are the green bits.

I feel you might be getting one of the muscles on her very heavily toned legs confused with the knee. I can see why you would.

Need to find a better way to portray them

[Anonymous No.5043422]

been working in this some more. i think i tightened up the perspective a lot. anything off?

[Anonymous No.5043427]

>>5043422
It won't fit

[Anonymous No.5043437]

>>5043427
what do you mean. its supposed to be a womens helm dont they have smaller heads

[Anonymous No.5043459]

>>5043437
Im talking about my dick

[Anonymous No.5043461]

>>5043141
I did use 3D objects to construct it.

[Anonymous No.5043468]

>>5043459
can you redline this scenario youre describing

[Anonymous No.5043469]

How do I find appealing poses and angles for pin ups?

[Anonymous No.5043484]

I still don't really know what eyes are

[Anonymous No.5043486]

>>5043484
Spheres inside spheres, inside spheres, layered. Like the earth cut up between the core, the mantle and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.5043487]

>>5043484
eyes are the gateway to your soul

[Anonymous No.5043518]

>>5043486
>>5043487
Fun fact: the eyes don't connect to the brain. They ARE brain. When you look into someone's eyes, you're looking directly at their mind. Well, the bit that's exposed at least

[Anonymous No.5043546]

Am I feeling it?
Also I feel like I need to go over proportions again, I kept getting them wrong when doing these. No. 6 looks like an alien.

[Anonymous No.5043561]

Does anyone know of a short, to the point youtube guide for the main concerns with rendering/values etc? I want to try that nice shading that looks all painterly

[Anonymous No.5043566]

>>5042440
If it's not /pro/ it's /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5043607]

Why wont I ever get good? I need help with limbs.

[Anonymous No.5043615]

>>5043275
Capeshit is boring

[Anonymous No.5043638]

>>5043607
Stop drawing details before you get the underlying basic forms, retard.

[Anonymous No.5043641]

>>5043638
I did draw form, you just cant see it when I scanned it.

[Anonymous No.5043648]

>>5043641
Well, this answers the question of why you won't ever get good I suppose.

[Anonymous No.5043667]

First picture drawn in close to two decades. What think?

[Anonymous No.5043697]

Am I doing this "looking up" perspective right?

[Anonymous No.5043699]

>>5043667
he monke

[Anonymous No.5043705]

>Have Idea
>cant translate it onto paper

[Anonymous No.5043708]

NEW THREAD!

>>5043706

NEW THREAD!

>>5043706

NEW THREAD!

>>5043706

[Anonymous No.5043724]

>>5043697
No. You kept the vertical proportions the exact same as the front view, there's zero foreshortening.
Also practice your ellipses and draw through the form.

[Anonymous No.5043740]

>>5043705
>have an idea
>realize it's way retarded and lame halfway through

[Anonymous No.5043746]

>>5043705
>don't have idea

[Anonymous No.5044010]

>>5043130
ok thanks

[Anonymous No.5044427]

>>5042521
thanks, the smoothing thing helped a lot I can even enjoy it now. I will try inking my pencil sketches digitally, at least until I get the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.5044465]

>>5041621
contortionists

[Anonymous No.5044487]

>>5042192
lame ass

[Anonymous No.5044502]

>>5042718
kek

[Anonymous No.5044518]

>>5043740
>I have written down ideas (comics, games, drawing etc) for the last 10 years
>go have a look at them now
>they ALL suck

[Anonymous No.5044719]

>>5040686
the second guy clearly was not posting his own art, he was posting a drawing someone else made and asking which brush they used in it

[Anonymous No.5044727]

>>5040687
totemo kawaii desu anon san