/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5018485]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread
>>5015718

[Anonymous No.5018487]

[Anonymous No.5018490]

Should I use references for faces ALWAYS as a newbie? Everytime I try without it turns into a symbol drawn mess

[Anonymous No.5018492]

>>5018490
yes

[Anonymous No.5018495]

How good of an artist do I have to be to be able to replicate this style? All I know is he was (rest his soul) a gouache painter, and his style is my entire reason for interest in history. Can I replicate this in photoshop with enough practice?

[Anonymous No.5018501]

>>5018495
what's your current level?

[Anonymous No.5018508]

>>5018501
Mid beg. Im expecting years for sure but his stuff is so well done I feel like decades possibility

[Anonymous No.5018519]

Wtf is mid beg

[Anonymous No.5018520]

>>5018508
Do you have any work you like and would like to share?

[Anonymous No.5018523]

Real question: when does one stop being a beginner. What's the milestone?

I feel like there's no milestone. It's just an organic process with no hard "steps".
One day you wake up and are good at drawing.
>it just werks

[Anonymous No.5018533]

>>5018519
Fundamentally the nature of the culture on these boards is one of individuality, because of such high levels of individuality due to anonymity and historical context, posters generally get pleasure off creating arbitrary hierarchies of value. Here, in regards to the posters inquiry of skill level, the anon poster is so unskilled at the craft itself, he does not know how to describe or show his skill level, and thus resorts to "mid beg" as a way of ranking his status amongst others who consider themselves "beg." Often people hate to find themselves below average even though at minimum 49% of people must. What was that funny thing I saw once about how 90% of drivers think they are "above average."

Funny stuff.

[Anonymous No.5018536]

>>5018519
Theres /beg/, /int/, and /pro/
those three categories can be divide into low, mid, or high
so low beg, mid int, low pro, etc

[Anonymous No.5018540]

>>5018519
/alt/ is mid beg

[Anonymous No.5018542]

>>5018533
For being such a faggot about it I wont post my work. Great way to ruin this thread in the first dozen posts.

[Anonymous No.5018543]

>>5018519
It's autism, essentially. You just say /beg/ if you're a beginner, and that's about all anyone ever needs.

[Anonymous No.5018547]

>>5018533
based

[Anonymous No.5018559]

>>5018543
Why is it autistic to diversity how you present a skill level

[Anonymous No.5018566]

As a beg, is there any benefit of trying to copy artwork that inspires you? I'm trying to draw pic related at the moment for fun, but its kinda hard.

[Anonymous No.5018573]

>>5018540
I would say /alt/ is usually high beg low int. Although mid begs can usually post there without much trouble

[Anonymous No.5018576]

>>5018566
its fun and you learn about stylization. you''ll get more out of it if you try to think about why the artist depicts things the way they do

i think its fine as long as you don't comfort zone into just copying art all the time

[Anonymous No.5018577]

>>5018573
>>5018536
God that rating thread is poisoning some retarded /beg/'s heads.

[Anonymous No.5018591]

Big nips
>>5018566
Ya it’s beneficial, I think you should learn at least something after some good hours of copying a better artist

[Anonymous No.5018594]

>>5018576
>>5018591
based, thanks for the input

[Anonymous No.5018597]

critique?

[Anonymous No.5018604]

>>5018597
Mid-section seems to be turned in a direction different to the legs and torso. Arms kinda short. t. beg
Using a reference?

[Anonymous No.5018606]

>>5018604
I used a T Pose anatomy man ref and tried to make a pose, so not really. Wanted to try somewhat no ref

[Anonymous No.5018607]

>>5018566
>is there any benefit of trying to copy artwork
huge benefit from copying and understanding peoples works that you inpsire to be 'studying from the masters' is a class for a reason

[Anonymous No.5018614]

Tips?

[Anonymous No.5018621]

>>5018614
Why not blend the sphere more? And the cone if it is a cone on the top right

[Anonymous No.5018625]

>>5018490
did you even read fun with a pencil. it's the first thing he has you doing, to construct from imagination.

[Anonymous No.5018628]

>>5018625
I can construct from imagination, its just the second I put facial features the whole thing falls apart

[Anonymous No.5018634]

I wonder what it is about drawing specifically that's so disheartening when you fuck up.
Most hobbies you keep on trucking fully aware that as a beginner you will make mistakes but with drawing you question your worth as a human being with every misplaced line.

[Anonymous No.5018639]

>>5018634
Jackshit, it's the one you're familiar with and that's your experience, doing sports? If you fail it will stick with you, writing? good luck filling page after page of bullshit

[Anonymous No.5018652]

>>5018634
I think it’s bideo games and other things that people grow up on that has trained us to expect near instant gratification with little effort. We call can look at drawings and think how simple they look and you better that you can do it too with some effort, then you get smacked in the face by a wiener to be reminded that it isn’t that simple

[Anonymous No.5018657]

>>5016675
>>5016680
>>5016902
I think I get what you mean, I will start drawing the 2nd cut off circle in my heads. You're saying I cant stick out one side that is supposed to be hidden.

[Anonymous No.5018668]

>>5018566
yes but the rendering in your ref isn't very good

>>5018634
It's just because it looks ugly when you fuck up. And we react badly to ugly things.

>>5018577
>t. beg

>>5018657
don't use such thick lines or draw bigger. and stop half assing your loomis heads. honestly though, for most beginners I would recommend copying/deconstructing head refs more than drawing your own from scratch because it's very easy to get it wrong.

[Anonymous No.5018674]

>>5018668
>but the rendering in your ref isn't very good
why? whats wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.5018677]

>>5018485
Bros.
When I look at this art, it looks like something is missing. Something that other anime styles have but this pic doesn't...
Is it the line work? the shading?

Also please ignore the feet

[Anonymous No.5018682]

I feel like I’m not understanding something about the body besides specific anatomy details
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.5018687]

>starting to be able to sort of draw things as my mind sees them
feels good man

[Anonymous No.5018688]

>>5018674
There's very little variation of hue going from light to dark, and there's too much black for the shadows (take the lips for example). Honestly it might be a comic style thing, but if I wanted to learn value and coloring properly then I wouldn't use this as a ref.

[Anonymous No.5018690]

>>5018628
yeah it's hard. there really is no way around it than to grind. it's probably going to take thousands of attempts. 9/10 times faces look off due to perspective issues. proportions arent hugely important, your drawings are just going to look like cartoons which is fine. but if something is out of perspective, or if the face is not symmetrical, that's when the face looks off. I would suggest to isolate the features and draw then from all different kinds of angles. also, don't try to draw pretty girls. they're feminine features are extremely subtle and it's hard to convey depth with such soft faces if you're doing line drawings. draw old people, men with strong cheekbones, jaws etc. drawing things like glasses and hats can also help.

[Anonymous No.5018697]

>>5018688
I see

[Anonymous No.5018702]

>>5018682
Cute WIP
Blog?

[Anonymous No.5018711]

>>5018702
@KatsuneiSenpai
Maybe it’s the angle of the pelvis I’m messing up all the time

[Anonymous No.5018717]

Going to attempt doing painting despite not being ready for it, for fun
Tips on thumbnail drawing for planning stage?

[Anonymous No.5018723]

Is this how to do construction study? Try to get the shapes then just spam them at angles and draw over?

[Anonymous No.5018730]

>>5018677
Were you trying to blue the lineart of the head/body for blur effect? Since the feet has cleaner lines.

In this art style I highly suggest you use clean lineart, dont use airbrush for it.
Since you're basing your art from anime, don't use airbrush (again) for shading, look up cell shading instead. Using airbrush in your level will make your artwork look blurry, and dirty. Learn those first, make a crisp looking lineart. Study how light works before you start using airbrush. A /beg/ mistake indeed

[Anonymous No.5018738]

30 minute time limit
couldn't quite finish rendering all values in time

[Anonymous No.5018740]

>>5018738
how long have you been studying?

[Anonymous No.5018742]

>>5018717
I'm also just starting in this field, what works for me in thumbnailing are:
- draw very small thumbnails so you can do a lot of em real fast, dont spend too much time creating one
- use 2 to 3 values max (black grey white range) to lay down where the focal point of the piece is
- learn basic compositions e.g rule of thirds

[Anonymous No.5018751]

>>5018639
Not the op, but I’ve written stories and I’ve played music. The progress in those was much more fun. But I also think it’s because those mediums have become so simplified that even basics put out something good. If anything, the visual medium has become more complex in the digital age, while writers like Joyce or Brahms aren’t nearly as popular. Our minds aren’t saturated with the complicated of those. But with drawing, the gap is huge. Ergo we hate our beg art.

[Anonymous No.5018753]

>>5018668
Thats not me that drew that.

[Anonymous No.5018754]

>>5018740
very little time overall (it's been on and off and inconsistent, just recently picked up drawing again a few days ago).

I recently found out that drawing from reference is relatively easy.
The meme "draw what you see" is literally it.
And once you understand light and value a bit, things really start to pop and look good. But it's not hard to do. Just a little theory.

I actually just watched these free videos: https://lp.evolveartist.com/free-painting-course
They are straight to the point and really helpful to understand value.

Anyway, there's people doing the Betty Edwards "Drawing from the Right Side of the Brain" intensive 5 days course. That go from left pic to right pic (see pic related) in 5 days. lol
There is literally no excuse for symbol drawing

Now, constructing from imagination, that's a whole different skill set...

[Anonymous No.5018757]

>>5018682
sasusage fingers,waist,hips,legs and arms

[Anonymous No.5018760]

>>5018677
look at your picture without color: it lacks depth, it lacks value range.

Ideally you want to have both dark shadows and bright lights. You want to describe form with value.

Your painting looks flat.

[Anonymous No.5018762]

>>5018757
youre this person right >>5017900

[Anonymous No.5018764]

>>5018762
i wish i could be that good

[Anonymous No.5018766]

>>5018757
How would you draw the legs differently? I’m gonna take a break before I redraw the thing

[Anonymous No.5018768]

absolute begginer here and this question might be really dumb but I started doing these exercises from the sticky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
and my problem is that when I do the lines at one point they overlap with each other I think not because of accuracy but because the paper starts to sink in so it gets easier to drag the pen on top of the line
is that okay or should I look for firmer paper or a harder surface, since I'm just using a notebook I found laying around at home

[Anonymous No.5018773]

>>5018730
>>5018760
Thanks, bros.
I do abuse the airbrush alot, I'll try to use it less now.

[Anonymous No.5018775]

>>5018677
>>5018760
now look at this: i just added a bit of contrast on photoshop.

Notice how it's popping out more?
Darker darks and ligher lights

[Anonymous No.5018780]

>>5018775
Oooh. Based. Thanks anon.
I'll replicate the shadows on this for practice.

[Anonymous No.5018795]

>>5018723
help am i on right train of though or not

[Anonymous No.5018802]

I know I should stop drawing heads, I did other stuff but how am I doing now? Trying to think in shapes and feel the form

[Anonymous No.5018823]

>>5018795
study real snakes

[Anonymous No.5018824]

>>5018773
I cell shaded your work and clean the lineart

here's what I'm basically saying
I'm the guy who said airbrush like five times

[Anonymous No.5018836]

>>5018824
Awesome!
This helps alot. Now it looks like the anime style I was trying to go for.
I'll replicate this cell shading style.

Thanks for doing this, man.

[Anonymous No.5018840]

>>5018836
cheers man, and goodluck to your art road

[Anonymous No.5018841]

I’d just fuck it up in inking again so this is as far as I go.

[Anonymous No.5018856]

>>5018652
> trained us to expect near instant gratification
I think it is the opposite, instant gratification is the default mode. you have to be trained to delay gratification.

[Anonymous No.5018865]

>>5018652
Just stop cooming

[Anonymous No.5018866]

>>5018687
one day!

[Anonymous No.5018867]

>>5018591
WOW COOM

[Anonymous No.5018869]

could i get some serious feedback please, wanting to up my game and spent more time than usual on this one

[Anonymous No.5018870]

>>5018869

[Anonymous No.5018877]

>>5018870
nice shapes and form

But it would be better to judge if you post a more finished one

[Anonymous No.5018878]

>>5018738
How small is that drawing?

[Anonymous No.5018881]

>>5018802
so nothing then?
whatever

[Anonymous No.5018883]

>>5018856
I guess as a child you expect instant gratification. I figured that’s typically ironed out in your early teens unless you’re spoiled

[Anonymous No.5018890]

>>5018566
Ive worked on this for around 2 hours, lmao. Time for bed, hopefully I'll finish it tomorrow.
Note: rendering is fun but I have no technique or knowledge of it. Whats a good source to learn from?

[Anonymous No.5018897]

>>5018881
got more works? Easier to judge if it's a compilation

[Anonymous No.5018903]

>>5018877
im not sure how to finish more than i have is my issue

[Anonymous No.5018908]

>>5018802
better, these have some good form

[Anonymous No.5018909]

>>5018881
use your Shizogan and unlock your true potential young coomer one

[Anonymous No.5018911]

>>5018903
Well then I guess ill try my best with this one

from what I can see, you're starting to get the big shapes and forms but when it comes to detailed ones, (e.g eyes) you're starting to have difficulties

So I suggest you keep learning forms and shapes, you're getting there.

Also you being aware with not finishing some of your works. Better get on it, coach

Finished, not perfect

[Anonymous No.5018917]

>>5018908
thanks, what can I improve? any notable mistakes besides jaw area and symbol drawn eyes?
>>5018897
Tried to draw my hand

[Anonymous No.5018919]

No advice for the legs? >>5018766
Okay... anons...

[Anonymous No.5018926]

>>5018917
Yeah, what I said before

Good forms, getting there

After this step try finilizing the drawing with harder lines, thus finishing it and then you can now clearly see what's up with your work

[Anonymous No.5018927]

>>5018911
>>from what I can see, you're starting to get the big shapes and forms but when it comes to detailed ones, (e.g eyes) you're starting to have difficulties

very true, i find hards stupidly hard, im getting it more now but yeah i find laying in and doiing big blocks easier than small stuff like eyes

>>So I suggest you keep learning forms and shapes,

i started drawabox recently so im hoping when i get to the forms part itll help me

>>Also you being aware with not finishing some of your works. Better get on it, coach

im not sure what this means

>>5018917
only thingh i notice are eyes sorry, as ive said before we are same skill level so its hard for me to see the issues, because if i did id fix them in my own art, i think we are on the right track and the issue is just drawing more really, it takes times and its only been 4 months for us, so a lot of it is just mileage you are better than last month and youll be better next month, its hard to see the improvements because it all happens under the hood really, but it is going on

[Anonymous No.5018931]

I've been mixing up all the construction methods I've studied so far, bucci + loomis + eviston and some boxes for direction, easier than a ball and a curve
>>5018897
Ignore the one on the right, just wanted the outline as practice but I messed up the perspective of the face, only the lower third, jaw mouth and chin are on the same direction as the reference, can you notice it?

[Anonymous No.5018938]

>>5017852
Fight or Fuck Girls Arena
>>5017871
Could you expound upon this further?

[Anonymous No.5018943]

>>5018754
>Mog /beg/ in 5 days or your money back. Guaranteed!

[Anonymous No.5018944]

>>5018927
>>Also you being aware with not finishing some of your works. Better get on it, coach
read it wrong bro haven't sleep yet, ok I get what you're saying now, use darker lines to make your work clearer and sharper. Notice when you're sketching you overlap a lot of lines to create a single strong one? Still do that in the sketching part, but if you're finalizing it, make one thicker/darker line. Makes a huge difference, and you can see your mistakes since it's not a blurry sketch anymore but a clear picture

[Anonymous No.5018949]

I'll do more work and post it later, I guess 4 heads plus something else should be decent progress, besides fundies of course. Hey, any advice on imagination + observation? I really dislike "Drawing on the Right Side of The Brain" and "Keys to Drawing", just can't do them but they seem to be key to incredible progress, >>5018754

>>5018926
Thanks for the feedback, I'm having a hard time finishing a drawing with truly black lines, it all feels like an outline and if I go too light Ill do scratching

>>5018927
You'd be right, we just have to keep at it, luck on your stuff anon, looking better. I feel like we both have issues with eyes but different extremes

[Anonymous No.5018954]

>>5018931
if you're focusing on the head, make it larger

small drawings tend to hide mistakes, and having a bigger canvas/drawing makes your line strokes bigger --> That shit improves your line confidence for better strokes and stronger lineart.

>>Ignore the one on the right
Right one --> bigger -> better
Left one --> smaller -> constricted lines, can't see shlt, you can't do details too --> bad

[Anonymous No.5018959]

Is it bad that after about a year of serious drawing (and another 6 years of messing around) my art still looks shit without a bit of guidelines? Does anyone else here really draw completely without them?

[Anonymous No.5018960]

I like this.
What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.5018964]

>>5018954
Yeah, you need to know how to do it big before even trying to imply it on a small scale, I just did that for fun but advice noted.

[Anonymous No.5018976]

>>5018964
I'll dissapear now, goodluck on your drawings bro

[Anonymous No.5018977]

>>5018976
Thanks and same

[Anonymous No.5018981]

>>5018960
nice big head

[Anonymous No.5018986]

>try to draw hug from behind
>looks more like a choke
I love being shit sometimes

[Anonymous No.5018987]

>>5018960
Unironically, needs more loomis

[Anonymous No.5018997]

This here is a purple car.

[Anonymous No.5019003]

>>5018960
Put the hair a bit lower if you don't want to change the eyes.
If you take a break and look at this again in like 15 minutes, you'll see that the actual spot where the eyes should have been.

[Anonymous No.5019029]

Why is there a large discrepancy in the quality of my studies in comparison to my actual projects? If I do a study, theyre obviously flaws because im new, but the quality of that is so much higher than my non-study work. Ill collect a bunch of reference, get an idea, and try to draw it out, and it feels like all the fundies I learn go out the window. Picture ends up flat, disproportionate, boring, whatever. But If im just copying a picture it looks so much better. Why? I dont want to be a photocopier, I wanna make stuff

[Anonymous No.5019037]

>>5019029
Because you're copying something that has already done 90% work for you than say your own personal project.
hey buddy heres a tip, use reference when drawing something you want ok

[Anonymous No.5019042]

>>5019037
Did you even read my post? I said I do collect reference, but It still ends up stinky

[Anonymous No.5019046]

>>5019042
Mileage plays and how you actually use the reference is also a factor,
Beside you never posted your work so how can we judge you?
This sounds like something in the stupid question thread

[Anonymous No.5019049]

>>5019046
Also are you doing thumbnail sketches and doing studies beforehand?

[Anonymous No.5019065]

>>5019046
Im gonna get made fun of again... ( I know her arm is horribly messed up, im trying to figure how to fix it, but the whole thing is just flat anyways so I might just abandon this again)
>>5019049
When i wake up I usually do half hour of gesture drawing, and then Ill do a study. Ill usually just find a picture of a model on one of the boards and try to draw that.
Whats a thumbnail sketch?

[Anonymous No.5019072]

>>5019065
Either you haven’t grinded enough figure drawings or did hundreds of gesture drawings already, reason why your forms are flat is because you’re really feeling the volume of it. Just do the basic box, sphere, cylinder shit first and try to draw them into a mannequin.
Also why would anyone make fun of beg trying to learn, only dunning krugers and day one begs get the stick up their ass

[Anonymous No.5019090]

>>5019072
You’re not feeling it*

[Anonymous No.5019109]

>>5019072
>>5019090
How do I translate box people into organic forms? Ive done those studies before, but the second I tried to change those boxes into body parts it completely falls apart and looks disgusting. Id post an example I cant find any of my sketches of those attempts, i think I accidently deleted them. Ill post my other early failed attempt at drawing something on my will instead

[Anonymous No.5019112]

>>5019109
Fill in with soft round brush

[Anonymous No.5019116]

>>5019112
>Fill in with soft round brush
I dont understand, what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.5019118]

>>5019116
Color it in with soft round brush and adjust the form as you need

[Anonymous No.5019121]

>>5019118
this is bad advice

[Anonymous No.5019124]

>>5019116
Draw a cross contour across the form.
Read up in dynamic bible.

[Anonymous No.5019125]

Never give up
It’s time to watch anime

[Anonymous No.5019126]

>>5019109
look into dynamic sketching

[Anonymous No.5019132]

That was fun. Learned about muscles flowing into each other and how much I suck at anime faces when they are tiny. Ref: >>5015504

[Anonymous No.5019134]

>>5019125
>words words words

[Anonymous No.5019139]

>>5019134
w-whats wrong with words...

[Anonymous No.5019140]

>>5019139
don't listen to him anon. sometimes text is better than any image

[Anonymous No.5019142]

>>5019139
show, don't tell

[Anonymous No.5019148]

>>5019134
>posts only words and no image
Uh oh

[Anonymous No.5019152]

>>5019118
>>5019124
Im sorry, but I still dont understand.
The soft round thing just feels like colouring it in, albeit blurry.
I understand the contour lines are supposed to help me feel the form, but I still cant tell If Im feeling it or not. I definetly dont on the box chest
Id check the dynamic sketching course but the mega got shut down, and the torrent isnt working for me.

[Anonymous No.5019153]

>>5019140
Yeah, but not that text.

[Anonymous No.5019155]

>>5019132
Too symmetrical, learn visual measuring

[Anonymous No.5019161]

>>5019118
Extremely bad post and you just sent him further into confusion

[Anonymous No.5019162]

>>5018652
>We call can look at drawings and think how simple they look and you better that you can do it too with some effort

[Anonymous No.5019165]

>>5019152
Not that soft, also use a darker grey, and do it ontop of the sketch. If you want to save the sketch and copy and paste and hide the lines, that may help you compare and contrast your results.

[Anonymous No.5019169]

>>5019162
That’s literally it yeah. Have you never seen someone whine about claiming they understand something but don’t know how to draw it?
Why am I responding to a wojak poster, don’t bait me

[Anonymous No.5019172]

>>5019139
>>5019140
repetitive blocks of text aren't how you tell a joke.

[Anonymous No.5019173]

I decided the drawing was salvageable if I just made the girl face the camera. I'm a butt guy, but this makes it more visually interesting.
What I'm having trouble with is having all of the characters be proportional together in the same image and also the fucking leg that I circled.
I think that if a girl was sitting on a guys waist like this, her knees would meet up with his, but I am not sure where I fucked up to the point that I can't get this leg to look right.
Also, she appears to be a LOT bigger than the guy, and that's slightly on purpose.
Either way, any suggestions on what I can improve here? As always, I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.5019177]

>>5019169
Your post reads like someone with negative IQ wrote it

[Anonymous No.5019185]

>>5019177
Fine with me. I’ll still become a good artist in time no matter how dumb people here think I am

[Anonymous No.5019192]

I know this is EXTREMELY fucking petty and I shouldn't bring this up, but does anybody remember many months ago, probably even a year ago at this point, but there was this guy who would copy random loli art with these really scratchy lines and everything they made turned out really flat? I think their deviantart was something super generic like "art studies" or something?

[Anonymous No.5019195]

>>5019192
Oh you mean gaysketch tranny?

[Anonymous No.5019198]

>>5019172
But what about natethesnake.com

[Anonymous No.5019202]

>>5019195
No, they specifically drew lolis? I think I know who you're talking about though. This person?

[Anonymous No.5019203]

>>5019165
Alright for some reason doing this crashed photoshop, but is the idea to outline the form, then draw the details on top of the new blob?

[Anonymous No.5019204]

>>5019173
Chicks legs would be angled out more at the hips and the dudes legs wouldn't be spread out. Skin also smooshes together in that position when you aren't worrying about snapping your dick.

[Anonymous No.5019209]

hey guys i have been doing tone/shading studies and this is one of them.
do my forms read well ?
Any critique would be helpful
thanks !

[Anonymous No.5019217]

>>5019209
I am a total scrub, but this looks awesome beyond the chest looking kind of fucked up? Maybe try flipping the canvas more because for real, that doesn't look right.

[Anonymous No.5019221]

I'm back. I did a bit more focus on body structure and hands this time.

[Anonymous No.5019224]

Bros, I spent too long rendering a turd. Tell me it was at least worth the time for "practice" .

[Anonymous No.5019230]

How do contour lines contribute to making organic shapes look 3D? I know in sketch phase it helps to visualize the form, but how does that translate into the lineart phase?

[Anonymous No.5019232]

>>5019230
people can't see into your brain to know what you intended, they can only see what you put down.

[Anonymous No.5019234]

>>5019221
I think it came out really well.
>>5019224
It doesn't look like you have a lot of line weight. They're all so thin. It's incredible you did an entire background though. You can't always create a completely finished piece like this and then instantly call it a turd and shit on yourself for it.
This is what the 4chan mindset does to you. Sure, don't be complacent but if you can't look at something you made and at least take SOME pride in it or show it to people without being self deprecating about it, what's the fucking point of the road to self improvement?

[Anonymous No.5019238]

>>5019204
This is incredible advice! I'll have to adjust the image tomorrow as I've got to go to sleep, but thank you. It all seems so obvious now!

[Anonymous No.5019247]

>>5019232
So its just to get good critique or to ensure you understand what youre doing?

[Anonymous No.5019248]

>>5019224
I kinda like it. I dont understand the gelatin cube stuff and why its emitting a light from her ass, but its neat.

[Anonymous No.5019259]

>>5019221
Watch the arm length. Imagine her hand is now down, and compare it to the other arm length.

[Anonymous No.5019263]

>>5019224

[Anonymous No.5019267]

I haven't drawn since middle school and I want to get back into it. How do I make this more realistic?

[Anonymous No.5019274]

>>5019267
Learn realistic anatomy, gesture, perspective and learn to render forms accurately

[Anonymous No.5019275]

>>5019267
Wow, this is pretty nice. I think you have all the works covered, you just need to refine and refresh your knowledge

[Anonymous No.5019276]

>>5019224
Too ugly to coom, try again

[Anonymous No.5019304]

I just started drawing yesterday and I’m complete shit at it. I drew both of these and want to know which is better

[Anonymous No.5019305]

>>5019304

[Anonymous No.5019306]

what's the difference between figure and gesture drawing

[Anonymous No.5019307]

I noticed a lot of figure drawing courses would have a female model with a gorilla bush that 100% covers their vagina. This is intentional isn’t it because America fears full nudity

[Anonymous No.5019313]

Am I on the right track? I dont know where to start to emulate the Vanillaware style. Do you paint on the lineart/ketch? I didnt even do a lineart I started painting on the sketch.

[Anonymous No.5019320]

>>5019307
Americans are secretly coomers themselves

[Anonymous No.5019322]

>>5019306
Gesture is a step " tool" to draw the figure.
To be able to draw a human figure you need to understand Gesture, Simple forms and how to construct them, anatomical landmarks, Light & shadow and how to use value, then comes understanding anatomy and how to use simple forms to construct them.
If you are lost and don't know where to start, start with glenn Vilppu videos or steve huston .
Good luck !

[Anonymous No.5019329]

>>5018960
Does this look any better?

[Anonymous No.5019333]

>>5019305
>>5019304
Chris-chan...

[Anonymous No.5019335]

>>5019329
We waited 3 hours and 50 minutes for this

[Anonymous No.5019338]

>>5019313
Do you like samurai champloo?

[Anonymous No.5019340]

Can I get some recommendations on anime hair and eye technique? Preferably by an actual manga artist, but I'll take anything that's good.
So far I'm mostly going by reference/experimentation.

Also, critique appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5019342]

>>5019307
Americans are scared of vaginas but guns in the hands of thugs are perfectly ok. Don't know what their logic is.

[Anonymous No.5019344]

>>5018997
I disagree

[Anonymous No.5019347]

>>5019342
Thugs = black people so it’s ok to them

[Anonymous No.5019349]

>>5019342
retard dont bring autistic logic to an art thread

[Anonymous No.5019352]

>>5019335
I took a break for while. I've only been working on it for like half an hour.
Is it good, bad, or what?

[Anonymous No.5019353]

>>5019352
it looks the exact same.
What drawing app are you using?

[Anonymous No.5019356]

I'm still a nooblet at blending shades. I fuckin hate it when they go out of the sketch line any tips for a nooblet?

[Anonymous No.5019360]

>>5019333
Yes?

[Anonymous No.5019362]

>>5019338
i do but why?

[Anonymous No.5019364]

>>5019353
>"it looks the exact same."
I just fixed a few little details, and moved the eyes and eyebrows a bit. I'm coming here to ask does it look acceptable enough to be finished with or does it look like shit?
I can never look at my art objectively, so it may look as good as i think it does, or it may look like dogshit. I'm looking for honest opinions, and if possible, critique.

Autodesk sketchbook.

[Anonymous No.5019365]

>>5019322
thx anon

[Anonymous No.5019374]

man, i suck at inking it feels flat
Any tips? pls

[Anonymous No.5019378]

>>5016043
it is once again time for shapes
repainted from scratch

[Anonymous No.5019396]

>>5019378
move on. Stop posting the exact same piece every thread. Your probs proud of it which is why your spamming, which is good, but keep moving forward. Dont just stagnate on this one thing

[Anonymous No.5019403]

>>5019378

Lol. You are not meant to come back to it in one day. Wait a fuckin year and make it again.

[Anonymous No.5019406]

>>5019378
just to make sure i'm understanding you correctly - if someone gives you crit, you're supposed to move on w/o implementing it?

[Anonymous No.5019410]

>>5019329
>>5019340
>>5019374
pls watch pin2d's series on drawing hair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVGowpA_vs

[Anonymous No.5019420]

>>5019410
Thanks a lot.

[Anonymous No.5019424]

>>5019329
what if loomis ?

[Anonymous No.5019429]

>>5019424
the face is just scuffed.

He needs to make the eyes bigger, or crop them up further.
But he's prob using some f2p app like the cheap nigger he is.

[Anonymous No.5019434]

>>5019304
>>5019305
these are doodles, anon. Worse than doodles.
It's an attempt at abstract by a complete /beg/

It's fucking scribbles. You just posted scribbles.

[Anonymous No.5019440]

>>5019434
Yeah I’m aware that I’m shit at drawing I was try to draw the shapes of this

[Anonymous No.5019442]

>>5019434
don't talk to my boy like that

[Anonymous No.5019447]

>>5019304
>scuffed
>>5019440
You can gues they’re poeple in the first one,

[Anonymous No.5019472]

Always was one of the better "artists" at school when I was a kid. Got into film, dropped it. Got back into it a couple months ago out of boredom and because it's a cheap fun hobby that I kind of have a knack for. Been just "drawing what I see" didn't realize that was a meme. Any advice would be appreciated I posted my previous version here before in older thread. Thanks for the help boys. Also what draws so many of you guys to digital mediums?

[Anonymous No.5019476]

>>5019424
>>5019429
How about this?

[Anonymous No.5019478]

>>5019329
>>5019424
Do you guys actively ignore methods to learn how to draw effectively?

[Anonymous No.5019493]

>>5019442
Thanks but he’s right

[Anonymous No.5019498]

who else /fairly-competent-with-drawing-from-reference-,-has-developed-adequate-skills-in-construction-and-gesture-but-flounders-with-stylization/ gang here

[Anonymous No.5019501]

>>5019498
Uhhh post your work while you say that. Like you’re trying to flex without showing a picture

[Anonymous No.5019502]

>>5019498
Fuck anime eyes. Fuck anime proportions. Fuck this whole enterprise. Just draw on thicker eyeliner bro. That counts as style, right? RIGHT? WHY DOES MY HAND NOT DO WHAT I TELL IT TO DO ANON?

[Anonymous No.5019503]

>>5019501

[Anonymous No.5019506]

>>5019503
Now post one where you used reference

[Anonymous No.5019514]

PLEASE. JUST END IT. I DONT WANT TO LIVE FOREVER.

[Anonymous No.5019516]

>>5019514
END IT. JUST DO IT. COPYING OUT OF BOOKS I CANT EVEN READ JUST FOR MONSTERS TO SHOW UP.

[Anonymous No.5019552]

>>5019410
Thanks!
I tried this method and its really better...
My guinea pig was >>5019329 anon drawing.

[Anonymous No.5019557]

>>5019410
Thanks!
I tried this method and its really better...
My guinea pig was >>5019329 anon drawing.

[Anonymous No.5019577]

>>5018677
It lacks soul you degenerate pig.

[Anonymous No.5019586]

>>5019329
>>5019476
Was bored and redrew this

>>5019557
Have you watched made in abyss

[Anonymous No.5019605]

>>5018677
Only draw one middle line through the foot, depending on what direction it’s facing.

[Anonymous No.5019607]

>>5019516
what are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.5019608]

>>5019514
>>5019516
Tick tock,
What’s on the clock?
ITS SHIZO TIME

[Anonymous No.5019610]

>>5019586
Sure
im also trying to copy tsukuchi style and my goal is to draw something like him

[Anonymous No.5019626]

>>5018485

[Anonymous No.5019637]

>>5019610
I love tsukuchi, good luck anon <3

[Anonymous No.5019664]

>>5019637
i love his work too, anon.
althought i had watched a ton of animes, Made in Abyss it's in my top 1 and in my heart

[Anonymous No.5019674]

>>5019664
also, i wish you the best, abyssbro
we gmi

[Anonymous No.5019692]

Do you guys think I can be a coomer artist too? I can do a males shonen archetype confidently but I'm still struggling with curvy females.

[Anonymous No.5019695]

>>5019692
Sure why not, most coomer artists aren't particularly talented. Draw the right shit and it's not a high barrier to entry at all.
Not gonna make a huge amount of money like the top bunch do, but you could be super talented and still probably wouldn't so.

[Anonymous No.5019706]

cone

[Anonymous No.5019745]

>>5019692
Looks stiff, like a wooden mannequin

Are you studying figures from reference?
Gesture drawing?

[Anonymous No.5019751]

full opacity
no stabilizer
no eraser
final destination
(seriously I don't wanna use a stabilizer and I'm wondering if I actually should)

[Anonymous No.5019762]

>>5018523
My definition of transitioning from /beg/ to /int/ is when you start spending more time creating than learning. Like, it’s no longer that every time you draw it’s a struggle session. You’re more confident in your ability to come up with an idea and actually execute to a reasonable level, even though you’re still learning things along the way.

[Anonymous No.5019766]

>>5018960
eyes too close

[Anonymous No.5019769]

>>5019751
what does your work look with stabilizer? how big is your tablet. imo it's best to use some kind of stabilizer, even 10% helps a ton. I tried out the studio clip paint trail a week ago and I couldn't get a good line to save my life, even after messing around with the settings for an hour. photoshop smoothing is pretty good though.

[Anonymous No.5019770]

>>5018997
the perspective is fucked up

[Anonymous No.5019775]

>>5019769
>what does your work look with stabilizer?
never really used it. I wanna ultimately do illustration/concept art, like more rendered stuff, not quirky anime or stylized stuff with simple colors and lineart
>how big is your tablet
not great, 13.3x8.8, Bamboo Fun CTH 661

[Anonymous No.5019779]

>>5019224
> Tell me it was at least worth the time for "practice" .
if you learned to not polish turds anymore then it was worth.

[Anonymous No.5019784]

>>5019762
no, that doesn't work as an indicator.
you might say /int/ is when they Should be doing that, but there's tons of /beg/s that just skip out on learning to create through the power of muh style.

[Anonymous No.5019787]

>>5019224
I don't think "polishing a turd" is that bad, you're still practicing other things than anatomy

[Anonymous No.5019793]

>>5019775
well if you're not gonna do any linework in your final render then do whatever feels most comfortable. to me, on my tablet, no smoothing just feels unnatural and floaty.

[Anonymous No.5019800]

>>5018890
Fuck it, I'm done with polishing this turd for now. The main takeaway from this study was that I realized rendering is fun, and that I should really learn it.

[Anonymous No.5019801]

>>5019800
looks clean anon well done

[Anonymous No.5019803]

>>5019801
Thank you :x

[Anonymous No.5019806]

>>5019770
no it isn't

[Anonymous No.5019812]

>>5019806
you need the cone
learn the cone
love the cone

[Anonymous No.5019825]

>>5019209
anatomy is wrong. Should use reference

[Anonymous No.5019835]

>>5019109
the problem is Symbol Drawing.

You have draw forms, not ideas
>>5019065
this picture looks flat because you're thinking of "arm" "eye" "hair", but not actually drawing that thing, that form.

You are drawing a symbol, a 2d flat representation of it. Check out the sticky

[Anonymous No.5019840]

>>5019751
try pencil and paper / ballpoint and paper and see if the problem is you or if it's the lack of stabilizer
stabilizer helps, but you need to have line confidence

[Anonymous No.5019841]

>>5019800
How long did it take you to finish it?
That shouldn't take long

[Anonymous No.5019849]

>>5019840
I do and have done pencil and ballpoint, a lot
I've drawn more or less my whole life, I just never could follow through with discipline, stopped for months or years at times, and I can't focus on something for a long time
aka the usual 4channer syndrome
just started trying again these days

[Anonymous No.5019878]

>>5019841
its far from finished, anon.
It took a while for me because im a beg :^)

[Anonymous No.5019886]

Drew Emillia

[Anonymous No.5019894]

>>5019886
ahh.. the good old "hide the hands" trick.

Love it. lol.
(it's cool, i like it. Check that shoulder/torso anatomy. Legs/hips are kinda off as well)

[Anonymous No.5019916]

practicing knees, I wish i knew how to color, i just keeptrying different colors over and over until something looks right.

[Anonymous No.5019918]

>>5019886
Face isn’t bad, feels like the drawing gets worse the further down you go though. You phoned it in on the legs.

[Anonymous No.5019919]

>>5019784
Well then they’re still /beg/s, even if they think they’re not.

[Anonymous No.5019923]

Is Scott Robertson's How to Draw a good place to start fundamentals?

[Anonymous No.5019938]

>>5019923
it's a book about perspective minutia.

[Anonymous No.5019950]

>>5019916
man I fucking hate knees, that's much better than what I can do

[Anonymous No.5019958]

I forgot to work on fundies yesterday but I had fun with watercolor
I like the last one I did, there is this one that blends nicely

[Anonymous No.5019970]

How do i learn anatomy?
I went through anatomy for sulplters and learnt almost every bone and muscle.
What else do I do?

[Anonymous No.5019971]

>>5019958
This looks great, anon. I love the colors. :)

[Anonymous No.5019975]

Kinda proud of this one. Pretty quick one, ~20 min. Contours around the figure are a bit harsh, but it's hard to erase them.
How is it looking?

[Anonymous No.5019981]

>>5019938
If I ask, what's good for fundamentals, will you say loomis?

[Anonymous No.5019983]

Am I doing this right? Does it look flat or 3D? Am I feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?

[Anonymous No.5019989]

>>5019971
Well thanks, it's my first time using watercolor so I was watching some videos from this japanese painter, Shibasaki. Here's my real pride and the reason I wanted to do this, I tried to draw and paint like Yuasa in this one, I had to practice turning her face into his style and I'm not sure I got it, you have to really emphasize the eyes for it to work. I'm a coward when it comes to detail but the ink is still missing, finishing details and that but again, I'm a bit anxious about messing up this thing, I know it's not great but I had fun

[Anonymous No.5019992]

>>5019989
Yuasa's art for reference.

[Anonymous No.5019995]

>>5019983
You're kinda doing it wrong. You need to feel cross-sections, and you don't, you just draw lines on the form and not very accurately (especially apparent on the legs)

[Anonymous No.5020002]

what in the name of fuck

[Anonymous No.5020003]

>>5019983
imagine if you were to cut his helgs off, how would the out contour look? we are looking down into his legs and the contour lines should reflect that. on cylinders they should curve more the further it is from the horizon.

[Anonymous No.5020012]

>>5020003
>>5019995
I took it a bit slower, something like this?

[Anonymous No.5020022]

>>5020012
A bit better, but some of your ellipses have sharp edges, which is wrong - you're not feeling the turn around the form. It's as if your cylinders have sharp edges, not round ones.

[Anonymous No.5020027]

>>5020002
just shut up and draw

[Anonymous No.5020033]

>>5020022
So should the edges always be round? I though it was best to make the hard to help visualize it better. Same with shapes like cubes?

[Anonymous No.5020058]

>>5020033
Cubes have hard, sharp edges, but there aren't many parts of the body which have sharp edges. You can draw the wrist, some parts of the pelvis, the knee, bottom of the ribcage with hard edges, but legs are pretty round, especially if you're visualizing them as cylinders first.
It's one thing to draw a strong contour, it's another to make a sharp edge.

[Anonymous No.5020070]

>>5018485
Post your work before critiquing someone

[Anonymous No.5020074]

>>5019983
No need to cover stuff in cross contour.

[Anonymous No.5020077]

>>5020070
imagine the person who made this

[Anonymous No.5020079]

>>5020077
Well for me I don't have to imagine

[Anonymous No.5020081]

>>5020077
Are you implying that my picture... is no good?
I assume you're a cartoonist yourself since you're speaking so confidently?

[Anonymous No.5020082]

>>5020079
well youre a retard, the image has three lines and you infer so much from so little, who says accept all critique and dont filter? youve created like 50 new arguments in your head

[Anonymous No.5020092]

>>5020082
>who says accept all critique and dont filter?
Many people on /ic/ and art discords
Here's how it usually goes:
1. Somebody (including myself, but not limited) posts an art
2. Guy who isn't an artist himself opens his flap and says some stupid shit thinking his contribution is useful (latest example from pixel art: I saw someone critique a sprite for "pillowshading" when it was shaded properly and he was talking about antialiasing, two completely different things)
3. Artist refutes the poorly educated critique and does not follow through with it
4. HOW DARE YOU NOT ACCEPT CRITIQUE!!! HOW WILL YOU IMPROVE DOG!
>the image has three lines and you infer so much from so little
Then maybe add more lines so the message isn't vague enough to be interpreted incorrectly? If that's what happened here

[Anonymous No.5020094]

>>5020092
>Then maybe add more lines so the message isn't vague enough to be interpreted incorrectly?

thats on you

[Anonymous No.5020115]

>>5020058
I redrew it
>>5020074
I NEED to hammer out this form stuff. Im tired of getting told I cant feel the form, I have to.

[Anonymous No.5020125]

>>5020115
You are symbol drawing shapes you dumb fuck, you think that just slapping them on a flat 3/4 perspective is good enough because your tiny brain has the basic idea of shapes on 3/4

[Anonymous No.5020131]

>>5020115
just my opinion, I don't think this kind of exercize is actually good or useful, at least for complete beginners. just try to draw normally (and of course, realism, not animeshit)

[Anonymous No.5020132]

I may need a redline for this cuz I have reached my /beg/ wit's end on it and have no clue what may be wrong with it

[Anonymous No.5020133]

>>5019886
Woah.
This is Really good.

[Anonymous No.5020145]

>>5020125
>You are symbol drawing shapes you dumb fuck, you think that just slapping them on a flat 3/4 perspective is good enough because your tiny brain has the basic idea of shapes on 3/4

I guess im symbol drawing my lines too, cuz everything can be symbol drawing. Christ, I should have never posted here, ever since I started posting her for critique and the like Ive started to hate drawing. Especially with people like you being dickheads over beginners struggling. Imagine having a teacher slap you in the face and call you a faggot because youre having trouble doing math equations.

[Anonymous No.5020148]

>>5020145
fuck off then you pissy bitch, you clearly have no knack for art and the world of it wouldn't lose anything of value without you

bitch

[Anonymous No.5020150]

>>5020145
>Imagine having a teacher slap you in the face and call you a faggot because youre having trouble doing math equations
Well for me, I don't have to imagine.

You seem to simply not understand what symbol drawing means, read the sticky anon.

[Anonymous No.5020151]

>>5019608
>>5019607
Sorry. Was just upset before I fell asleep. :(

[Anonymous No.5020155]

>>5020148
> you clearly have no knack for art and the world of it wouldn't lose anything of value without you
How about you post your work you limb-wristed faggot. You couldnt even cut off your own dick and make a convincing form of art out of the shriveled remains of your "manhood". You make children on deviantart looks like prodigies compared to whatever fucking dribble you produce. You talk big shit but couldnt even take dick up your ass without shedding tears. Eat shit and die you fucking faggot nigger. This is my 3rd art hobby. Im not gonna let some faggot retard who cant even punctuate his own sentences tell me how to live my life and what I should do. Always remember where ever you go, God is crying at what a fucking faggot he accidentally let slip through the cracks into this cursed world.

[Anonymous No.5020163]

>>5020155
That guy's just a crab.

[Anonymous No.5020164]

>>5020155
>Always remember where ever you go, God is crying at what a fucking faggot he accidentally let slip through the cracks into this cursed world.
/beg/ goes nuclear

[Anonymous No.5020167]

>>5020163
>>5020155
cope

[Anonymous No.5020168]

>>5020155
stop fighting with your superiors and draw now, anon

[Anonymous No.5020169]

>be /beg/
>someone calls my /beg/ tier drawings /beg/
>drop a shit-fury bomb on them

[Anonymous No.5020170]

i know artists are emotional snowflakes but jesus

[Anonymous No.5020171]

>>5020169
More like
>be /beg/
>someone writes an absolutely retarded post trying to demotivate me and make me quit trying
>put them back in their place

[Anonymous No.5020175]

>>5020115
The contours feel like you don’t understand 3d shapes

Draw some still lifes or something. Grab a cylinder and put a rubber band around it and see what wrapping lines are supposed to look like

Read Perspective Made Easy

[Anonymous No.5020178]

>>5020171
saying your symbol drawing is trying to demotivate you?

sperging out and throwing a fit is putting them in there place?

[Anonymous No.5020179]

>>5020145
Just curious but how well can you draw from reference anon?

[Anonymous No.5020180]

>>5020171
More like
>post work
>someone shits on it
>seethe
>claim success

[Anonymous No.5020183]

>>5020178
Please explain to me how the FUCK >>5020148 is any form of critique.
>Sperging out and throwing a fit
Beats being sad for myself like all the other faggots on this site. Anger is preferable to despair.

[Anonymous No.5020184]

Putting that discussion aside, what's your name on "Camera distance" vs Zoom?
How close should the camera be to the subject?
With that I specifically mean how strongly should an extended appendage be enlarged?
I recently watched this video:
https://youtu.be/E5HRvQNg4pQ?t=197
and realized that the size change is between 0 (at infinite camera distance and infinite zoom) and infinity (with a camera distance exactly as long as the extension of the appendage and very low zoom).

Are you using a specific method to find out how far you want the "camera" to be away or are you simply doing it by feel?

[Anonymous No.5020186]

>>5019806
ok

[Anonymous No.5020187]

>the pissy bitch went to cry to a janny just to delete my post
LMAO dude if you're this obsessed over someone calling your crappy drawings shit then you better stop now, because the moment you get mildly popular you'll fall right onto the hands of clout-chasers

[Anonymous No.5020188]

>>5020179
Considering I dont plan on posting here ever again unless I need book advice or something, I drew this last thread.
I dont care anymore. Im just gonna draw and study. Posting here was a mistake, I should have just read the sticky, got my book advice, and never come back.

[Anonymous No.5020189]

>>5020188
How long have you been at it?

[Anonymous No.5020190]

>>5020183
anger IS despair, you sound like a fucking teenager get your head out of your ass

>>5020148
this is a response not the original critique

[Anonymous No.5020195]

>>5020188
draw now, anon

[Anonymous No.5020196]

>>5020188
>Posting here was a mistake, I should have just read the sticky, got my book advice, and never come back

i mean youre a faggot but yeah this is pretty good advice desu

[Anonymous No.5020197]

>>5020189
I started 35 days ago. I used to draw porn in highschool for about 2 years but I stopped for 6-7 years after I felt shameful. I tried drawing as a form of Catharsis for something awful that happened recently, but the drawing stuck so here I am.

[Anonymous No.5020201]

>>5020197
a month? but 2 years of prior experience? conflicting report.

[Anonymous No.5020204]

>>5020197
You sound more and more like a faggot with every post you make, I suggest you stop for good now

[Anonymous No.5020205]

>>5020201
Well that was such a long time ago I forgot a lot of what I learned. I would just copy porn and pictures and never did really any studies. Kind of comparable to "Ive been drawing every since I could hold a pencil" but you just doodle dicks and stick people for 8 years before you started actually trying

[Anonymous No.5020206]

>>5020197
>for something awful that happened recently,
wanna share?

[Anonymous No.5020209]

>>5020204
How about you suck my dick and I keep drawing?

[Anonymous No.5020210]

>>5020205
Impressive progress FOR a month anon, youre lucky that the nice mode is on.
Hours a day? Resources?

[Anonymous No.5020211]

>>5020210
tell me about the tulpa

[Anonymous No.5020212]

>>5020211
what do you wish to know? it's very on topic but Id like to share the plans with someone

[Anonymous No.5020213]

>>5019886
something weird is going on under her dress, did you draw the under forms? if not you should.

[Anonymous No.5020219]

>>5020212
well you can tell me what the plans are

[Anonymous No.5020221]

>>5020210
My literal procress something like
>Spent a week just doodling, tried to a draw an actual picture for a drawthread (pic related, first actual drawing since highschool)
>Got good critique since I asked, told to go to /ic/ etc etc
>Did the entire fun with a pencil book
>Did bits of proko anatomy course
>Did some of peter han but the mega got deleted so I cant continue
>Practiced anatomy for sculptors (luckily saved the book)
>Watched a shit ton of youtube tutorial videos from a bunch of various artists of various skill levels
I draw for 6-12 hours a day. And thats time with pen on paper. Im a NEET atm. I was supposed to do a Licensing exam and start working but my mayor is a retarded faggot so thats delayed for another 2 months or so
Also keep in mind this is my 3rd art hobby, I play the flute (not really related) and I paint miniatures, so I have some colour and light/shadow knowledge from before (Used to do OBS and NMM)

[Anonymous No.5020231]

>>5020219
I must pick between and remember that tulpas are imaginary friends, a protector persona resembling the mother figure I lacked, a spaceship (don't be distracted by the signs) or and this is embarrasing but at the same time, catharsis, one based on my /mu/ waifu.
>>5020221
Entire fun with a pencil book? So now I know what I need to catch up that and anatomy will surely help me. Thanks and luck anon.

[Anonymous No.5020235]

>>5020231
never feel embarrassed about sharing who you are, im still not sure on what the plan is though?

also, have many tulpas do you have? do you have a favourite? one that you dislike?

[Anonymous No.5020239]

>>5020235
why do you want to know? Besides, I used to have one, 1 month for me to get it but it didnt work out in the end, the ones i mentioned are on the planning stage

[Anonymous No.5020248]

>>5020239
im a psychology student so it interests me,

what do you mean by 'get it'?

[Anonymous No.5020258]

>>>/tg/76039424
I don't dare post over there while it's wip
I'll just post the final one
I can't help but try to be too realistic for my skill level

[Anonymous No.5020262]

>>5020190
>anger IS despair, you sound like a fucking teenager get your head out of your ass
You can have a pretty interesting psychological argument about that. Id say anger is prefereable to sadness, as sadness encourages idleness. Sitting in your room, sobbing, being alone, isolation, etc. Anger gets stuff done.All revolutions and wars are fueled by anger. You want to do something about your emotions, compared to letting your emotions consume you like sadness, which is weak.

[Anonymous No.5020265]

Derp.

[Anonymous No.5020267]

>>5020239
also whyd you have to pick between the three you said, why not have them all? also have you either wondered if you have split personality disroder and consider going to see a psychiatrist? even if its just to talk, its nice to share

>letting your emotions consume you like sadness, which is weak.

the same can be said about anger, do not be a puppet to any emotion, be the puppet master

[Anonymous No.5020272]

>>5020267
>>5020270
>>5020248

[Anonymous No.5020275]

>>5020272
ok so what is the process of getting them to appear and how did you discover this? what was your first tulpa? and whyd you even want them to appear in the first place?

[Anonymous No.5020282]

>>5020275
Dude there are threads on /x/ about this. It's a subset of meditation studies.

[Anonymous No.5020283]

>>5020265
draw bigger.

[Anonymous No.5020284]

>>5020275
>>5020281

[Anonymous No.5020285]

>>5020283
Fuck.
That's the whole size of my 5.5x8.5 sketch book. Someone on here told me to draw bigger back when my figures were 2x1". So I guess I need to do a full 8.5x11 page now???

[Anonymous No.5020290]

>>5020070
Someone bad can give you a good advice and someone good can give you a bad one. You have to be able to differentiate between the good and bad ones, and not blindly listen to an "authority".

[Anonymous No.5020312]

>>5020285
You using a fat whiteboard marker or something?

[Anonymous No.5020321]

>>5020312
A friend got me a set of prismacolor Art Markers. I was using the fine point side, but there is a chisel side too. Ha. I should probably use a finer pen when drawing that small. Maybe these Crayola brush tip markers? Or just a ball point, or gel, or disposable fountain pen? I'll have to test em all out.

[Anonymous No.5020353]

>>5020321
>>5020312
Here’s all the different pens I could find in my desk.

[Anonymous No.5020466]

>>5020321
Definitely try something with a finer tip.

[Anonymous No.5020628]

>>5020466
I'll try some of the variations I posted >>5020353
out on the next thing I draw.

[Anonymous No.5020632]

>>5018738
unfinished study of a cat sleeping in my front yard.
Unfinished because he moved away before I could finish lol

I found it quite difficult to assess the values of yellow/orange striped fur, and the light was not directly shining on him, he was in shade

>>5018878
It's done on an A4 sheet.
Not that small, why?

[Anonymous No.5020713]

My endgoal is stylized painting, something like pic related. I feel comfortable enough drawing figures to start learning painting, so that I can develop both of these skills simultaneously.
So, what's a good starting resource for painting in this style? Doesn't need to be anime related.

[Anonymous No.5020806]

how can I refine these if I don't like the clean line look? I need some crits/thoughts/attention

[Anonymous No.5020807]

>>5020806
every time

[Anonymous No.5020810]

>>5020155
>>5020188
Not those others guys but you're clearly too much of a bitch to be posting here. If you're going to seethe that much at random ESLtards sperging at you then god knows how well you would handle real criticism, you clearly just aren't cut out for this place. Follow your advice and get out, for your own health. Your drawings are decent by the way.

[Anonymous No.5020821]

>>5020810
I handle well constructed, real criticism well. Ive received it before. I just also enjoy exploding onto retards as well, so its a mix

[Anonymous No.5020825]

The future is a bright one w

[Anonymous No.5020830]

>>5020825
Garloid, isn't it? Where'd you get yours?

[Anonymous No.5020832]

>>5020807
Try some clean line hatching. It’ll still look busy, but it’ll be the improvement you want. Be intentional with every line. I know you don’t want that, but just try it.

[Anonymous No.5020840]

>>5020830
Uh no sweaty this isn’t your fotm meme, this is me practicing torsos in simplified shapes

[Anonymous No.5020847]

>>5019472
Do you guys only critique anime? Did I miss something from the sticky? Sorry for the blog but damn thought you guys would have something to say

[Anonymous No.5020849]

>>5020847
wahh im special

[Anonymous No.5020859]

>>5020847
it really depends on whos on this thread at certain times, most of the time is just people who don't know how to explain what wrong with your drawing. For your drawing itself you need to work on your proportions of your face, the eyes seems small for the head size.

[Anonymous No.5020860]

>>5020847
Her eyes are too darn small, the nose is shaped badly, you don’t understand the shape of the head because the alignment of everything is very wrong, shade less and work on the foundation of your drawing more. Shading all of that is worthless

[Anonymous No.5020869]

Is this thread gonna be deleted? I wanted to post something

[Anonymous No.5020911]

>>5020869

NEW THREAD >>5020906

>NEW THREAD
>>5020906

NEW THREAD >>5020906

>NEW THREAD
>>5020906

[Anonymous No.5020927]

>>5019472
simplify
I'm only a /beg/ btw

[Anonymous No.5020946]

>>5020927
you're highkey cute

[Anonymous No.5021480]

>>5020849
I seriously thought I fucked up my post somehow.
>>5020859
Thanks I'll work on that, do you suggest measuring angles or just eyeballing and making sure I have everything in the right place before I start shading?
>>5020860
I'll keep that in mind, half way through shading it I had a feeling everything was misaligned but I just wanted to keep going at that point I guess. I'll trust that instinct next time.
>>5020927
Lmfao thanks. I used this source image because I really wanted to learn how to draw girl hair. Also used charcoal on the hair and had never used it so I went overboard. You can even see a sweat drop in her hair.

[Anonymous No.5021483]

>>5020927
Also the shape I attempted for her hair was pretty damn close to what it looked like in the reference photo. If hair looks weird in the reference photo should I just change it to something more natural?

[Anonymous No.5022483]

anything look off about this?