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Previous: >>4998878

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

>> No.5013370
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5013370

Long time no see. I made a few edits to this guy. Thoughts?

>> No.5013374

>>5013370
Just realized the wings on his head are fucked in the right pic. Ignore that

>> No.5013494

>>5013333
Someone keep away the thanksgiving turkey from tableguy

>> No.5013517

>>5013494
Dude, don't give him ideas.

>> No.5013529

>>5013370
Much better

>> No.5013602
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5013602

I think I'll sit on this over the weekend before posting

>> No.5013662

>>5013602
I like it but at a glance something seems off about the guys head.

Does he have a long face?

>> No.5013674

>>5013602
Everything on point but your faces/heads never have volume.

>> No.5013693

>>5013662
>>5013674
Yeah I got comments about the heads before and noodled around trying to fix them, though I am still not satisfied. Someone told me the guy initially lacked cranium and I might have overcompensated. Corrections would be appreciated

>> No.5013705
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5013705

Aaaaahhh

>> No.5013706

>>5013705
Draw guys fucking that anime girl awooooogaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.5013719

>>5013705
Draw more of that Griffin, fag

>> No.5013721

>>5013706
>girl

>> No.5013722
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>> No.5013778

>>5013693
I wish I could help but I'm /beg/. I don't know his face looks long. Like there's too much space between his lips, nose and chin.

But if you made that shorter than the girls face/head would be massive. It's funny because her face/head doesn't look too long, even though they're around the same length.

Maybe her larger eyes are helping with this? Not that you should give him large, girly eyes.

Maybe extend the back of his skull? Draw a tiger in the background?

>> No.5013798
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5013798

>>5013693
Here’s an attempt

>> No.5014010

>>5013778
>>5013798
I'll keep these in mind, thanks for the feedback. To be honest I can't see my own mistakes in this area so I'll probably just sleep on it and hope my eyes catch up sooner or later so I can make some edits.

>> No.5014023

>>5013333
Behold: a man!

>> No.5014057

>>5014023
no no no Socratesbros we got too cocky

>> No.5014060

what's the difference between this and the /draw/ thread

>> No.5014062

>>5014060
/draw/ is overall less autistic

>> No.5014066

>>5014060
These threads were originally a containment thread but the cancer has mutated into a Tumblr beacon for westernized anime snowflakes

>> No.5014093

>>5014066
Be the change you want to see in the world

>> No.5014094

>>5014060
Just the style. Keeps everyone happy if we're split. Nothing is stopping you from posting in both threads or even switching it up. It's a general, not a blood contract.

>> No.5014116

>>5014060
these ones are more interesting

>> No.5014146

>>5014093
It's not worth saving these threads, let it continue to devolve itself until eventually the altthreads would be so unrecognizable between the regular drawthreads that it'll become redundant and cease to exist.

>> No.5014150

I don't know about you guys, but I for one welcome our futa overlords.

>> No.5014239

>>5014146
>>5014066
>t. permabeg

>> No.5014264
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5014264

Trying to understand actual digital programs better based on brush strokes. I've spent most of my life drawing either in MS paint or traditional, so I feel like I'm 10 again drawing a sketch in CSP.
Here's Scooby Doo with subtle early 2000s motifs

>> No.5014268

>>5014146
you cant appreciate what's in front of you. there are so many talented artists here, they may not post every thread but /alt/ is always worth checking.
>>5014264
these are fun

>> No.5014271

>>5014264
what have you done to my wife velma

>> No.5014286
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>>5014271
She's just a tech nerd who could probably look better than Daphne if she actually tried

>> No.5014502

>>5013705
Nice bulge.

>> No.5014518

>>5014060
from my experience, there is a bigger emphasis on creativity and character design here. You'll find more studies on /draw/

>> No.5014521

>>5013705
I wanna see whats above them

>> No.5014524
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>>5014518
>creativity
>here

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5014613

>>5013602
>>5013693
I tried messing with it anon, his head was too long/narrow, and her head and hand were a little big in comparison to him. I also think you could define his back a little more by adding the shadows of where his scapula would be. I tried to just fix some proportional issues instead of just turning it into "my style", not sure if I succeeded though. Hope this helps.

>> No.5014620

>>5013602
Why is there a nigger in your historical drawing?

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>> No.5014817
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>> No.5014819
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>> No.5014828

>>5014817
Great drawing of animu Wakko, the oekaki pixel line strokes really do it
people sure do love the reboot/return series. I wonder if it would be better if it took a weekly episode release schedule like Disney+ or cable tv?

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5014835

>>5014828
Its going to go on forever.

>> No.5014841

>>5013705
Fisher what artists did you study to achieve your current style? and how long have you been drawing for? (I love your art)

>> No.5014950

>>5011465
Don't have a twitter so followed your dead Insta instead.

Should really at least throw up your sfw WiP/doodles on there.

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>> No.5014979

>>5014060
We actually don't draw in this thread

>> No.5015043

>>5014978
i was about to say cute satania
but then the fags have to ruin everything
i hope it jumps from 40% to 100% really fast

>> No.5015055

>>5014978
Pedo
>>5015043
Retard and beg.

>> No.5015090

>>5015055
It's okay whitebox one day you will finally git gud, until then, keep dreaming. Xoxo

>> No.5015092

>>5015090
Pedo.
>>5013705
Beautiful work as always Fisher.

>> No.5015093

>>5013722
Garbage

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>>5014978
>>5015043
wat u mean?

>> No.5015381

>>5015378
He's calling you a tranny, retard.

>> No.5015389

>>5014835
anon which of the anatomy books did you use to git gud. just curious cus we draw similarly

>> No.5015392

>>5015381
Calm down truffle puff ballerina.

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>>5014613

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5015475

Comfy

>> No.5015479

>>5015475
why don't you properly learn perspective+form and hide behind your style, Sugar

>> No.5015514
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>>5015479
Because I'm lazy. I can and do realism shit for uni but it doesn't make me happy compared to this dummy stuff. Maybe one day I'll improve my fundamental skills like when I start one of my many comic ideas. Sorry if this was a joke and I replied with too much. My art is all soul based because I am a wimp, such is life.

>> No.5015520

>>5015514
ilu sugar

>> No.5015544

>>5014835
Nike, where/how did you learn to draw bodies like that?

>> No.5015547

>>5015544
>Nike
Nice*

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>>5014978
>>5015378
Did you create a new wallet yet? Bitcoin is way too expensive to send you with I'd rather have the $40 transaction fees go to you instead of some random chink miner.

>> No.5015631

>>5015389
If I could recommend the masters of anatomy book has an artist included, tincan21, that draws exaggerated muscles that I enjoy.
>>5015544
I just sorta learned from a lot of different artists from comics and manga.

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5015754

^.^

>> No.5015763

>>5015754
*Notices buldge*
OwO

>> No.5015911

>>5015613
Oh first time hearing about that, which type?

>> No.5015978

>>5015911
You may research Exodus wallet and see how it gives you a multitude of wallets. I prefer Ethereum since it is fairly easy to convert to fiat and is starting to become widely accepted.

>> No.5015988

>>5015978
Oh neat didn't know.
0xFd3BF0F725a745c6dE939f0Ae05cee57e72DF16e

>> No.5016217

>>5014521
check the /SALT/ thread
>>5014841
thanks. kim jung gi, jjfrenchie and bill watterson are probably my biggest influences, but I couldnt list all the artists that Ive learned from or look to for inspiration. Ive been drawing most of my life, but i started actively trying to improve around 6ish years ago now

>> No.5016904

>>5015458
>>5014613
I'll keep these in mind, thank you for the paintovers. To be completely honest the edits you made look very wierd to me and don't really fit they type of face I'm going for but I'll try to keep studying and working things out on my own.

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5016922

I fucking hate these FOUL rats

>> No.5016984

>>5016904
>>5015458
Yeah, that's what I was concerned about hence the disclaimer
>I tried to just fix some proportional issues instead of just turning it into "my style", not sure if I succeeded though.
The other anon who painted over my paintover did succeed in making a more generically appealing anime-esque face, but made him stick out like a sore thumb next to her instead.

But still, anon, I think you should do some head and skull studies, the proportions of his head looks really off in your original pic.

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5017110

>>5016984
Yeah, I gotta get back to studies once I have the time for it again. I tried to look back at some skulls and photos and figure out how to fix it myself, though I am not sure if it's much better. I'll probably just move onto the next and try to keep it in mind piece instead of dwelling on this

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>>5013602
>>5016904
Sorry for the change of style in the paintover, but I wanted to try and point out a few things I noticed and tried to fix.
The painting is lovely, but I think the heads are indeed oddly shaped like other anons have pointed out. On the boy, the cranium is extremely narrow and high up. The jaw is too long, along with the distance of the mouth from the nose. The mouth also seems too wide and extents too fat to the back of the head.
Another thing, that might be due to style but I would advice to be avoided in the future, is that type of nose. It looks a bit unfortunate, as it is too short and pointed upwards, like a piggy's. If you like your characters to have small and delicate noses, I suggest going about it in a different way, like making them sharper and more pointy instead. Especially on males, longer noses that do not point very high look more masculine and attractive.
Lastly, I suggest some practice on eye shape, and how, even when stylized, follows the curves of the eye socket
Sorry if the example isn't very helpful, but I still wanted to give it a shot
Good job on the drawing so far, I am sure the future ones will turn out even better

>> No.5017189

>>5017145
Amazing

>> No.5017207

>>5017145
Thank you for the paintover, it's very pretty though honestly it's kind of hard to make use of it from how different it is stylistically.
>Noses
Ahh button noses really are my personal preference, but I'll try to take into mind the rest of what you said. Thank you.

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5017275

>>5015378
Drawing pp is way more fun.

>> No.5017390

whatever happened to the underage with the cute gothic anime style, beltorchika or something like that?

>> No.5017392

>>5017390

she failed to improve

>> No.5017397

>>5017392
she's one of us then

>> No.5017563
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>> No.5017568

>>5017563
This one's alright, but the 4 pack doesn't feel natural.

>> No.5017573

>>5017563
Your colors are seriously improving dude. As in, legitimately good looking. Keep it up.

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>> No.5017593

>>5017207
>it's kind of hard to make use of it from how different it is stylistically.
Understandable, even mentioned it myself, but this is why the image was also accompanied by a wall of text with what needs to be done in order to improve. Plus, I am afraid that to some extent, the paintover looks so different because many -fundamentals- needed to be tweaked, like for example...
>Ahh button noses really are my personal preference
I am very sorry about what I am going to say here, but understanding and use of anatomy and rendering cannot be always excused as "my style". What you drew cannot be called a button nose, instead it looks very much like it is cut clean at its base, making this very unappealing. Preferences are great to have and they are what you base a style on, but like many others anons have tried to politely imply in the thread, your current stylization is clearly not working. Sticking so strongly to it might do you more harm than good in the future, as it greatly takes away from an otherwise pretty painting
At this point I would suggest looking up and studying various artists to your taste and trying to conjure a new approach of drawing the face based on that, along with doing some more realistic studies on the side

>> No.5017597

>>5017563
/beg/

>> No.5017601

>>5017145
wow nice

>> No.5017602

>>5017593
bad understanding and use*

>> No.5017604

>>5017593
Why are you wasting your precious knowledge on this fagwad? He hasn't improved in years and has no intention to. Hes also a confirmed shit poster on dad based on the shit I've read from the discord.

>> No.5017607

>>5017604
that's a fe-male I believe actually

>> No.5017608

>>5017604
I am not up to date with gossip, but whether he takes this advice or not is not the only benefit that comes from posting this
Even if he decides not to take anything in consideration, there could be another anon or two that find better use for it, even if it not directly meant for them
Plus, I am not a professional, so no one has to take my advice as proper teaching

>> No.5017615

>>5017604
there are no more shitters on dad, unless you're one of those taken care of by the jannies recently ;)

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First time using procreate.

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>>5017669
Tried coloring but I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

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>> No.5017940

>>5014978
go away

>> No.5017952

>>5017940
Just click the arrow on the post you want to report, and send it.

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>>5017275
Thinking of drawing corona but don't know yet.

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>>5017275
*deleted since I made changes.

>> No.5018091

>>5017563
Nice job, I think this might actually be the best thing you've made so far. Your lines themselves still need to be a lot more defined but overall it's much better. I think especially changing the shadows of the skin/adding the blue reflected light helped, definitely keep that up.

>> No.5018097

>>5017275
Draw futas and then you have both

>> No.5018115
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>>5018091
thanks
i have found new better inspirations better artist to study
(pic rel)
i admit i got lazy and impatient and after uploading it and a couple of hours passing, I can see how messy it is and I hate how little effort I put in the hands

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WIP Reference

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How's this face?

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>>5018571
I love you queen, you've improved a lot in the last 4 months.

>> No.5018619

>>5017145
Based Nat.

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>> No.5018655

>>5018648
Ahahaha so terrible, I hope you fuck up your wrist and be forced to wear a brace for the rest of your life.

>> No.5018656

>>5018655
based hex poster

>> No.5019206

>>5018571
Dang, Queen you gotten so good

>> No.5019212

>>5018648
I don't get it. People early on told you that the toes were fucked up and you didn't even bother fixing it. What's your problem? Why even post here? To gain attention from the 5 people on 4Chan?

>> No.5019215

>>5019212
Don't waste your time on him. Ignore him, he never listens to any crit.

>> No.5019284

>>5019215
Yep. Just like back in the porn thread.

>> No.5019289

>>5017563
Well done asukafag

>> No.5019290

>>5017145
This is awesome. Don’t let the guy’s lack of caring for the effort you put in get you down. There are always going to be people like that who don’t appreciate a critique and only post here to get told how pretty their art is. Not to mention the “muh style” crap.
You did a really good job. It’s a million times better than the garbage it was before.

>> No.5019562

>>5017615
Is that why these threads have been better lately?

>> No.5019582

>>5019562
Too soon to tell.

>> No.5019584

>>5017563
You've been making great gains with your art recently. Keep it up!

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>> No.5019858

>>5018571
>mistah pottahhh

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>>5018079
>>5018097
I never really liked that combination too much, but then again I haven't been exposed to much to care, I might try something then.

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>>5018079
>>5018097
I never really liked that combination too much, but then again I haven't been exposed to much to care, I might try something then.

>> No.5020073

>>5019562
They're still there. Just more mindful of their shitposts, albeit obvious

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>> No.5020998

>>5020967
Based? Based.

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which type of lineart is the best for my level
many things I have tried here
cause I have maybe been deceived by good artists that some things are easy and they are not and you need years of experience

>> No.5021227

>>5021204
>Having other people decide for you
Beyta!
Do what feels right.

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It’s mushroom season in animal crossing. Is it just me or are mushrooms incredibly erotic?

>>5013333
>not been chosen for OP in years
>finally honored by OP
>OP ironically picks my naked chicken...
Thanks bros

>>5013494
>>5013517
OH!?

>>5021204
7, 6, 5, 4=3=2, 1, 8. I feel like 7 is the best fusion of all of them

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