/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.4999708]

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
>Location
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
>Size (in inches)
>Other information
>Previous equipment

If you have any additional questions, ask them.

>Recommended tablets:

Intuos Pro M - The best non-display tablet.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech.
Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet.
Used Cintiq 22HD - The only worthwhile large display tablet
Galaxy Tab S7+ - Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro

>Avoid:

XP+Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand - Poor build quality, lackluster pens, bad tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands are basically the same because they're all centralized. Also watch out, Chinese Companies are known to shill aggressively, even on 4chan.
Cintiq Pro - Terrible value. The drawing experience might be good, but you're paying way too much for an unreliable product. Dead pixels are frequent, as are black screens of death.
Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
Lenovo - Bad drawing performance.

Previous: >>4993565

[Anonymous No.4999720]

>>4999708
New Wacom lineup when?

[Anonymous No.4999734]

[Anonymous No.4999748]

>>4999708
I have a question.
If I want to be a professional artist, do I need a tablet with a screen?

[Anonymous No.4999752]

>>4999748
a lot of professionals sport an ancient intuos.

[Anonymous No.4999757]

>>4999748
No. In fact, many industry pros prefer screenless as it's better for back posture, your hand doesn't get in the way while drawing, and it takes up significantly less room

[Anonymous No.4999769]

>>4999677
They're fine for new artists and entry. It'll work and last until they want something bigger.

If you're getting it as a gift, screenless screams cheap to new artists, so if she's one of those, just throw a $200 screen at her and she won't know the difference.

[Anonymous No.4999802]

>>4999769
There are no decent screens for 200$.
Hell a normal monitor costs more.

[Anonymous No.4999823]

What's the tablet at the end? https://youtu.be/bTy3esxxJbI

[Anonymous No.4999827]

>>4999823
My bad not the wacom one the one before it

[Anonymous No.4999869]

>>4999827
Looks Like S7+

[Anonymous No.4999919]

>>4999708
>Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet
based

[Anonymous No.5000031]

>>4999748
Pro here, illustrator working in advertising. I'm one of those people who used cintiq and gone back to intuos (intuos 3 in my case). Outrageous, right? But i do feel it works better for me, especially the part where you are not looking at hand all the time.

[Anonymous No.5000040]

>>5000031
But again, it's up to you, I'm an oldfag, started working commercially when intuos was all there is (other brands were not even an option) and I'm not sure someone today would have patience to get used to it given that they have other options

[Anonymous No.5000119]

Is Wacom One Medium CTL-672 any good? I don't mind the lack of keys, im used to the keyboard anyway.

[Anonymous No.5000174]

>>5000119
no

[Anonymous No.5000516]

Came into the other thread late. Trying to buy a screen drawing tablet for my family member and not break the bank. Looking to spend about ~200, but will go a little higher.

I was mainly asking if the xp pen are good,
had my eye on this one.
So is it only one guy crying about xp pens or is a big split wheter they are good or not?

I was looking at this one: https://www.amazon.com/XP-PEN-Artist12-Pro-Full-Laminated-Battery-Free/dp/B07VZF7ZC9/

Watched this mikemegamega's vid where he checks one out and he seems to like them, the quality of pic is certainly about all I would expect, not going for pro here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d952X6qEQU8

[Anonymous No.5000829]

Hello, /dtg/, I have a question for anyone who had a screenless and upgraded to a screened tablet.
Upon upgrading to and using a screened tablet, did you notice certain tasks and activities become easier? I'm not expecting things like a skill boost, but rather, I assume it takes a shorter amount of time to accomplish the same things due to not needing to fight with the disconnect between drawing surface and visual feedback media (discreet screen), thinks like laying down line work, and being more accurate the first time. Stuff like that. And if that is the case, by how much of an impact did it make on the workflows affected by the switch to screened tablet?

[Anonymous No.5000852]

>>5000516
If you're looking for a nice cheap pen display I'd recommend the Kamvas 13:
https://www.amazon.com/HUION-Kamvas-Battery-Free-Sensitivity-Stand-13-3inch/dp/B083W88L5H?ref_=ast_sto_dp
It's larger than the XP Pen, and it can connect to android devices. (In theory, I've never actually tried this out myself)
I've had mine for about six months now and I think it's pretty great.

[Anonymous No.5000859]

>>5000829
The only improvement I found was I was marginally faster cleaning up line work.

For some reason I spend more time fucking around with the initial sketches/composition on a display than a tablet.

It's not like you constantly fight with the disconnect, once you get used to it, you can pretty much pick up any tablet and use it like it's second nature.

[Anonymous No.5000913]

I've been recommended the XP Pen 15.6, how is it? Any major issues I should potentially know about? Any better screen tablets I can get around the same price/maybe a little more?

[Anonymous No.5000918]

>>5000913
it's overall decent and can't be beat on price.

[Anonymous No.5000922]

>>5000918
The $400 one, right? I'm seeing 2 diff 15.6" on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.5000926]

>>5000922
yeah the one with a red dial.

[Anonymous No.5000956]

>>4999708
thinking of getting a samsung s6 lite
anyone here with an experience with that tablet? any views?

[Anonymous No.5000982]

>>5000956
i checked it out in the store. The screen is extra cheap, the size is too small, and it's sort of slow.

I don't thiink anything other than a s7+ is worth attention. A regular S7 is also too small

[Anonymous No.5000993]

>>4999708
what non-display Huion is the most decent? I heard that some of the models have problems with drivers.

[Anonymous No.5001000]

>>5000993
Go Xp-Pen bro, their screenless options seem better.
Either a Deco 01v2 or Deco Pro. The deco pro has a newer much more pleasant pen.

If you want to go Huion anyway then select any of the usb-C ones. Make sure you aren't buying a micro-usb because I had some ugly issues with those.

[Anonymous No.5001123]

Which drawing software do people use on their galaxy tab? CSP monthly subscription kind of sucks.

[Anonymous No.5001186]

Is there no good tablet under 100 dollars?

[Anonymous No.5001214]

>>5001186
one by wacom is $70

[Anonymous No.5001216]

>>5001214
One by wacom is not good.

[Anonymous No.5001224]

>>5001216
It is sufficient if you know how to use your painting program.

[Anonymous No.5001242]

>>5001224
It's literally the worst tablet on the market. There's Deco 01 for 60$

[Anonymous No.5001356]

>>5001242
>$10 difference
Then just pick your Deco 01. Why are you even asking.

[Anonymous No.5001528]

>>5001186
Xp's Decos are all solid.

[Anonymous No.5001599]

>>5000913
Rubbish. See webm.

[Anonymous No.5001601]

>>5000956
It's very good. Don't listen to the chinese shill here- >>5000982

It's the best value display tablet. It has a small form factor, but once you adjust it functions perfectly for drawing. You can also use it as a display tablet for your PC with superDisplay.

[Anonymous No.5001602]

>>5000913
XP-Pen is rubbish. See webm.

[Anonymous No.5001731]

can any tablet really beat ipad + pen anymore?

[Anonymous No.5001778]

>>5001731
Depends on how much you value larger form factor.

Unless you prefer a 20"+ screen, or prefer to work in SAI or Krita, the iPad Pro is the best drawing tablet experience.
Mind you, you also need a matte screen protector for some resistance. If you use glass, you have to start using smooth stroke features.

[Anonymous No.5001809]

Can you pirate clip studio on android if yes how? so i can buy a galaxy tab s6 lite instead of touching an apple device

[Anonymous No.5001818]

>>5001601
Post your work

[Anonymous No.5001829]

>>5001809
Yes but it's shit https://www.clipstudio.net/en/news/202008/21_01/

[Anonymous No.5001853]

>>5001809
b..but thats the official site not pirated. also why is it shit is there missing features?

[Anonymous No.5001906]

I'm considering getting a used Galaxy Tab S6, but I'm concerned about touch within Clip Studio Paint. Can you disable touch input while drawing with the pen? I don't want my hands making stray marks.

[Anonymous No.5001911]

>>5001906
>a used Galaxy Tab S6,

Dude if you are soi fucking broke you should consider a job instead holy shit.

[Anonymous No.5001933]

>>5001809
The schizo faggot who makes these threads doesn't actually draw. Don't buy into the tablet meme unless you do your research and have found a perfect screen mirroring app for PC - yes, that supports tilt, pressure everything or else you may get trapped into that ecosystem forever on one 2D app, because of that retarded schizo who has never produced a single drawing of any value, on an eternal subscription for the rest of your life. You can't assume you'll get cintiq functionality from an android or ipad.

Unless you are a 2D hobbyist who values portability over functionality, it could be a bad idea.

If you buy an apple or android tablet you will be paying subscription fees for CSP. This isn't 2010. Both apple and google won't let fake in app purchases go through. If there's no APK or bypass on mobilism then most of the time NO CRACK EXISTS.

And please note the computer cracked CSP EX also only goes up to 1.9.4 as well, though you can use the online for the assets store freely. CSP EX used to be cracked by the scene group XFORCE but they hate it when people hex edit their releases. Which everyone did for CSP. So they stopped cracking it. Then CSP added online verification which fucked up that crack, but a user had a friend who figured out how to emulate the license server and did all our licenses by hand. Then a retard came along and fucked it up for everyone. So there have been no cracks since 1.9.4 but some of us have 1.9.5-1.9.7.

You can get a permanent cheap CSP pro license for the computer because it goes on sale all the time, but EX is much more expensive and the most obvious difference is that you can have more than 24 frames for animation, the other differences barely make an impact. There's also been loader bypasses for pc made for cracks but so far the person working on it hasn't been able to make advanced pen tool settings and things like rulers work.

[Anonymous No.5001942]

>>5001809
Yes because you can pirate on Android.
You can also use superDisplay, which makes it work like a desktop display tablet, and you can draw with your pirated stuff on your PC. That includes SAI.

[Anonymous No.5001944]

>>4999919
PSA PSA PSA

Look at how far back Kim is gripping the pen. He's not using much pressure at all, holding the pen away from the tip requires a loose grip! If you keep gripping tightly you're gonna get RSI

[Anonymous No.5001955]

>>5001911
The fuck? Is the S6 not better than the S6 Lite, the tablet recommended in the OP? Money's not an issue for me but I still don't feel like spending a lot on something I might not like.

[Anonymous No.5002036]

>>5001955
Op is full of shit.
S6 is really really meh, and S6 lite is a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5002095]

>>5001955
If money is not an issue, why not pick up the S7+? It's the best of the Android Tablets there.

The S6 is better than the S6 Lite, but the S7+ is a better version of the S6, whereas the S6 Lite is a budget friendly option.

Also you can safely discard the chinaman here: >>5002036
He only wants to sell you chinese garbage.

[Anonymous No.5002103]

>>5001933
>>5001942
I already have XP Pen non-display which works fine. i still use the pirated 1.9.4 maybe I'll buy it someday since it's a one time buy.
I wanted a cheap tablet for when I'm not glued to the desk. All the Android apps look like poopoo expect clip but since it's subscription i might just go with the cheapest iPad with procreate

[Anonymous No.5002107]

>>5002103
Nothing wrong with Infinite Painter.
Ibis Paint, Autodesk Sketchbook and Medibang are also perfectly capable drawing software.

[Anonymous No.5002134]

>>5002107
clip studio is the best.
Animation/ mesh transform / auto close gap fill / the asset store / the good default brushes. just the top of my head
i don't know alot about procreate but I think it's really good from what I've seen

[Anonymous No.5002679]

will this ever go on sale?

[Anonymous No.5002717]

>>5002679
maybe black friday/cyber monday
but probably through retailers and not wacom themselves, but idk about that

[Anonymous No.5002740]

is an intuos 3 with the pen worth $25?

[Anonymous No.5003102]

>>5002679
it was on sale last december for $550

[Anonymous No.5003195]

>>5002740
No it's worth 200$

If it's being sold for 25 there's something wrong with it, dead usb port, beat up and busted surface or somebody was murdered with it.

[Anonymous No.5003387]

>>5002679
you can buy it used or refurbished for a lot less on wacom’s ebay store.
from reviews even buying a brand new wacom 16 can get you a scuffed unit.

[Anonymous No.5003423]

>>5002134
clip studio is a godsend. cannot imagine using anything else for lineart

[Anonymous No.5003426]

>>5002679
Probably black friday or near christmas, but buy it from best buy with the geek squad warranty. They will replace it if they can't fix it.

[Anonymous No.5003439]

>>5002740
Yeah, it is. I paid $40 for mine a few weeks ago and I'm loving it.

[Anonymous No.5003572]

>>5001906
>Can you disable touch input while drawing with the pen?
yeah that's on by default

[Anonymous No.5003641]

>>5002740
Yes. They're still used in the industry today.

Don't worry about Chang here: >>5003195 , he doesn't like it when people buy older, better products.

[Anonymous No.5003647]

>>4999757
Man, I can never get used to screenless, then again I got the cheapest tiniest wacom I can find, so that's probably the problem.

[Anonymous No.5003658]

>>5002036
>>5002095
Thanks, I'll take it all into consideration.

>>5003572
Awesome, thank you.

[Anonymous No.5003701]

hello guys, chinese shill here. bought this recently and it turned out to be quite unusual... no it turned out as always, as a mechanical keyboard didn't make me a writer, a screen tablet didn't make me an artist.
considering the fact that I have been painting on the screenless for 3 years and i really succ in the trad, it was very difficult to get used to it
on the plus side:
-a little bigger size than my old 1060 plus
-comfortable stand, now i don't have to base tablet on my poor laptop.
-tilt and without battery
-second screen
-passed the test with a ruler (top right).
on the downside
-more acidic web colors, monitor on the laptop have more organic colors so the difference is noticeable
-paralax, but it's kind of like everyone's
-even more wires

overall, I am satisfied with the purchase, at least its better than my first wacom ctl471 bullshit (fuck this shit)

thanks to www.DeepL.com/Translator

[Anonymous No.5003711]

>>5003701
I kneel, chink shill

[Anonymous No.5004054]

>>4999748
If you want to work in a studio environment you'd be working of a tablet. There is usually only one cintiq per room of workstations.

[Anonymous No.5004091]

Let me guess, you NEED more?

[Anonymous No.5004168]

>>4999748
Ipadpro 2020 has been amazing for me, I seriously recommend it.

[Anonymous No.5004259]

How important are the buttons on the pen itself? I found a good deal on a newer Wacom, works good and all but the pen buttons don’t work. Buttons on tablet work, so no right click on pen.

[Anonymous No.5004278]

>>5004259
As long as the tip sensitivity works, you should be good. The pen button is a convenience not a deal-breaker.

[Anonymous No.5004281]

>>4999748
Do you 'need' one? No. If you can afford an ipad with pencil or Wacom S6 lite go for it. But there plenty of artists (me included) that do fine with screenless tablets.

[Anonymous No.5004389]

I inherited a Huion 580, and found that the closer I physically move the tablet to my monitor, the more my pen cursor will jump side to side as I hold the pen above the drawing surface.
If I hold my tablet in my lap, there is no jitter.
Has anyone dealt with such a phenomenon and, if so, found any workarounds other than using my lap as a desk?

[Anonymous No.5004430]

>>5004389
Culprit: wireless phone charger.

[Anonymous No.5004675]

have any anons tried using a google pixel C?

[Anonymous No.5004687]

I currently own a cheap intous like tablet, it has quite a lot of scratches, even when i have a soft press and change the tip often, do screen tablets are more durable or is that you cant see the scratches?

[Anonymous No.5004757]

>>5004687
"etched-glass" screen tablets are more durable than some removable and replaceable "matte-film-surface" screen tablets.

[Anonymous No.5004853]

>>5004687
Just tape some paper over the surface and keep drawing. I feel like you're trying to justify buying a cheap screen tablet. If you learn one thing from /ic it's that screen tablets aren't a solution, they present their own set of problems at the expense of taking more of your money.

No artist has ever said, 'oh I got to be this good because i bought a screen tablet."

[Anonymous No.5004924]

If anyone of you here have gotten your hands on a Mac with M1 chip please share drawing program performances/compatibility. Hardware compatibility like Cintiq/ Sidecar with IPad Pros is great too. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.5006443]

>>5004259
depends on you
i pretty much exclusively use the keyboard since my hand is already there and im used to it
just make sure the button not working doesnt cause other problems, i have an old wacom where sometimes it reads a button as being always pressed. though i can disable it entirely through software

[Anonymous No.5006454]

>>4999708
Has there been anything like the cintiq companion hybrid since? Or is it still my only option for a desktop display that I use on the go sometimes without a machine?

[Anonymous No.5006562]

I’m getting a cintiq 22 tomorrow, what should I expect?

[Anonymous No.5006570]

>>5006562
You should expect a box containing a cintiq 22.

[Anonymous No.5006599]

>>5006454
... aside from using 3rd party apps with an ipad/samsung S series? I don't think so ... but you should be warned that there's a reason they only made one generation. Not factoring an issues with the usb port, I believe there was an issue with limited support when it came to upgrading android and the screen was not very bright for what you were paying (at the time). I don't know if the hybrid suffered from the same overheating issues that that windows cintiq companion did but I know at least that version got another iteration.

[Anonymous No.5006625]

>>5004259
Pen buttons are extremely important for navigation and colour picking.

Don't buy used or broken tablets.

[Anonymous No.5006640]

>>5003701
I've seen your stuff on /asg/ your lineart is a lot better than mine.

[Anonymous No.5006727]

>>5006625
> extremely

pfft please, space bar and alt key. I work at a studio with a bunch of other artists from different backgrounds (we didn't know each other before this job) and I asked this during our lunch break. Not even worth a minor discussion of it, pen button use is 1% to 15% of use, 0% considered 'essential'. This is from actual production artists.

You know what is important? A keyboard. If you're a fake youtube artist who spends maybe an hour or two trying to draw on your screen tablet working in ONE application and think that a keyboard 'ruins the pure artistic environment' artsy-fartsy bullshit then sure, the pen button is 'important' ... you know, like that little teacup succulent on your live-edge wood desktop.

[Anonymous No.5006911]

>>5006727
Thanks, feels like there’s a lot of people here trying to prevent poor fags from any sort or deal.

[Anonymous No.5006921]

>>5006454
Huion tried with the Kamvas Studio.
Tried being the word. I wouldn't recommend it, especially since you plan on being on the go, but it exists.

[Anonymous No.5006978]

>>5006921
making a 22” as their first tablet computer size was a strange choice

[Anonymous No.5007054]

>>5001933
>And please note the computer cracked CSP EX also only goes up to 1.9.4 as well, though you can use the online for the assets store freely. Then CSP added online verification which fucked up that crack, but a user had a friend who figured out how to emulate the license server and did all our licenses by hand. Then a retard came along and fucked it up for everyone


All of that shit seems like too much work compared to just buying a $25 license. But I know with warez scene they crack shit more for the glory then the monetary cost. If a poorfag really can't afford CSP they might as well stick to the good free digital art software available.

It's not like it's 2010 when the only decent digital art software was either Photoshop or Paint tool Sai. All the free alternatives were so god awful that it made you want to just stick with traditional art if you didn't want to pirate PS or Sai.

>CSP EX used to be cracked by the scene group XFORCE but they hate it when people hex edit their releases.

Why did people hex edit their software?

[Anonymous No.5007071]

Can you order a custom built pen? I've got a very unique drawing style and the placement of my fingers is actually closer to the eraser than to the tip. I've got big hands and this style actually helps me conserve energy drawing because I only need to do a few twitches and it translates as large lines.

[Anonymous No.5007075]

>>5007071
I still want the functionality of those two buttons, but I want them closer to the eraser end, and I also want the pen in general to be thinner.

[Anonymous No.5007100]

>>5007071
post video or gtfo

[Anonymous No.5007109]

>>5006599
Thanks. I've been using a 13hd for nearly a decade now and I was thinking it would be nice to have that additional touch functionality plus the ability to root it and run fresco on the go or something, but it seems insanely hard to track down the parts to repair what dead units I can find locally.

[Anonymous No.5007113]

>>5006599
What apps are there for windows/android? I havent seen much that is decent unfortunately

[Anonymous No.5007221]

Sopa de macaco shill here, got a chink gaomon tablet, pd1611 dont know something likw that 1161 anyway pressure seems fine calibration is ok, better than non display tablets, I make little to no mistakes, my lines look better and life drawing have been a joy. I never did this before but lately I have been drawing all day just from the joy of actually seeing where I am drawing.
Brazilian malice time
Why get a companion if you can get a pocket laptop and go anywhere, shit is great
Anyway thats my 10 centavos

[Anonymous No.5007223]

>>5007221
Also forgot to tell that on the contrary people tell you a display tablet will not make you better I kinda get it but it made ME better for sure.

[Anonymous No.5007276]

>>5006978
Honestly, it was ballsy. As an all in one at home, its a great idea. And frankly, as their first attempt at that, it was smarter to go big than try to fit everything into a space too small for the technology they have. But its not practical for artists who travel for work to have a 22 inch monster under your arm.

If it was a decent rig and they eventually made a smaller version, I think Huron would finally pull in front of Xp and make Wacom worry about that part of their market.

[Anonymous No.5007282]

>>5007276
Does the kamvas studio have hybrid functionality? Like can you also use it as a pen display for another desktop?

[Anonymous No.5007295]

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
$1200 Max
>Location
USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Portable with display
>Size (in inches)
16-22 inches
>Other information
Considering Wacom Cintiq 22 inch and 16 inch
>Previous equipment
Intuos Pro 13 Inch

[Anonymous No.5007323]

should i trade in my ipad 3 for a new pro

[Anonymous No.5007358]

should I take the tab s6 lite pill

[Anonymous No.5007369]

>>5007358
if you're fine with the screen size and the apps to use with it.

[Anonymous No.5007393]

So the Innovator Display 16 Anniversary Edition is $400 right now. Anyone know much about this tablet?

[Anonymous No.5007405]

>>5007393
XP Pen makes good tablets, just ignore schizo-anon

[Anonymous No.5007411]

Should I even bother getting a tablet if my phone has an s pen

[Anonymous No.5007546]

>>5007323
probably not. It just sounds like you’re not drawing.

[Anonymous No.5007554]

Is there any benefit to getting a 2nd gen IPad pro over an 8th gen IPad?

[Anonymous No.5007610]

>>5007554
Is it the 12.9 pro? If not, get the better price one imho.

[Anonymous No.5007647]

Some Samsung tablets are going on sale and I'm considering either the S6 lite or the big boy S6.
I'm also interested in using a keyboard case like that.
Do these get in the way of drawing?

[Anonymous No.5007650]

>>5007295
you might get dissapointed by the screen quality if you go from 13 pro to cintiq 22 or 16

[Anonymous No.5007677]

>>4999708
huh, i came here as a newfag to ask for tips on a new tablet and found them immediately
Very nice.
My budget 350 euros (414 USD), i'm fine with or without display as long as it's good and durable. I think size should be important, but huge tablets usually are more costly, so medium size is fine
My previous equipment is a shitty 5 year old Wacom small tablet, can't remember what it's called, the one with white ridge up top and four buttons

I was thinking of an Intuos Pro M, it's exactly in my range. Only doubt is if a good display tablet exists in that range. I don't really care about the display that much, but it's nice to have options i suppose

[Anonymous No.5007729]

>>5007393
15.6 pro is $300.
There’s very little difference between them so I think that’s the better option.

[Anonymous No.5007766]

>>5007393
From the reviews It seems that the Innovator is basically the Artist Pro 15.6 but worse.
People complained about the dim screen and some papercut issues that the Artist didn't have.

I'd go with the artist instead.

[Anonymous No.5007802]

I just read the OP and find the elite circlejerk unnecessary
Especially with that defensive
>Also watch out, Chinese Companies are known to shill aggressively, even on 4chan
While advertising the most expensive shit atm as "the best!"
I had a Huion 1060p for two years and never have a problem with drivers
Maybe I'm not first worldy enough but it's just that this "Drawing Tablet General" reeks absolute company fanboyism and bias
Like making a "Drawing on your Phone General" and having
>Recomended Phone to draw in
>Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra
>Also avoid all Huawei, Xiaomi and all those other chinese phones because their batteries explode and they shatter easily. Beware also that all the chineses on 4chan that have an argument for them are %100 shills don't feed the shills!

I guess I'll have to find another board to discuss my tablet bye and take care :(

[Anonymous No.5007805]

>>5007802
Bye Chang

Be sure not to knock your Huion tablet on the way out, they break quite easily

[Anonymous No.5007817]

My xp pen is having usb device not recognized issue.
It worked before but just stopped working suddenly.
Anybody have this issue??

[Anonymous No.5007891]

>>5007729
>>5007766
>>5007393
After doing some digging, the only things the Innovator has that's better is slightly better colors and it's thinner, making it easier to take places. Since I have no desire to move my tablet away from my desk, I'll probably go with the 15.6 Pro. I'm just really nervous since I've had my 4x6 Intuous 3 for years and honestly, I'm scared of screened tablets, but I feel now is the time to upgrade.
Thanks anons!

[Anonymous No.5007945]

>>5007817
try a different cable or connecting to a different port, see if it connects to your phone or maybe ubuntu.

If nothing works it might be a dead tablet.
If it works connected to your phine then it's something wrong with your PC or windows.

[Anonymous No.5008004]

>>5007282
I can't answer that. Thats a question for the company's support team. I don't imagine it being possible but there could very well be a button to just turn of the screen versus just turning on the computer inside the screen? But that seems too far thought out for Huion honestly

[Anonymous No.5008008]

>>5007802
I am >>5007221 and I am here to talk if you want.

[Anonymous No.5008014]

>>5007891
Normally I'd recommend getting it off Amazon so you could return it if you didn't like it, but Amazon almost never keeps up with XPs sale pricing.

God speed.

[Anonymous No.5008021]

Are there any decent tablet stands that won't slide and don't need to be mounted? I want to buy a large wacom tablet but wacom doesn't sell stands and I don't want to mount something to a desk

[Anonymous No.5008026]

>>5008008
Anãozinho, você pagou quanto no seu tablet da Gaomon? Vi que está por R$1079,12 no Aliexpress. Você foi taxado?

[Anonymous No.5008029]

>>5008014
Yeah I checked that. Amazon lists the 15.6 Pro as $399. Meanwhile it's $299 on XP-Pen's website. Though the website has a 18 month warrenty

[Anonymous No.5008068]

Wacom delisted the Cintiq 13 Pro. So both the 13 and 16" pros are out of production. I'm going to bet they'll have something at CES 2021

[Anonymous No.5008093]

>>5008068
>I'm going to bet they'll have something at CES 2021
One by wacom lol
They probably figured out those tablets were too cheap.

[Anonymous No.5008169]

>>5008029
Sorry, bro. I normally want everyone to feel secure when I refer them to a purchase. I bought my 24 from them direct so I've got no experience with having to return something or have it repaired. I know they're not for everyone so Id rather refer someone to the amazon trick to make sure they get what will work for em.

[Anonymous No.5008365]

>>4999708
one time I left my pen on my screenless tablet and I couldnt figure out why my mouse was being unresponsive. I reinstalled my os twice until I realized my pen was just sitting on the tablet lmfao

[Anonymous No.5008456]

how do you guys draw straight lines on a tablet? do you guys use the drawing software's features or an actual physical ruler over the tablet.

[Anonymous No.5008461]

>>5008456
stabilization software is king. Paint SAI is a program worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.5008463]

>>5008093
The pros are higher margin than One, 16, or 22 non-pros. They just stick a fan and backlights with higher spectral purity and call it a day. Oh, and a shitty touch digitizer I guess that doesn't work right.

[Anonymous No.5008465]

>>5008461
Almost all programs have stabilization now. What is this, 2012?

[Anonymous No.5008468]

>>5008465

[Anonymous No.5008479]

>>5008463
One are noncompetitive so everybody will have to buy the bigger PROs.

[Anonymous No.5008529]

>>5008026
Fui não, cara, pode comprar numa boa. Vale muito a pena, aproveita a black friday que estará quase 900 reais!

[Anonymous No.5008559]

>>5008456
the same way you would on paper

[Anonymous No.5008815]

any significant differences between the S6 and the S6 lite when it comes to drawing?

[Anonymous No.5008875]

>>5008815
If you value your deep blacks, the S6 is better thanks to an OLED screen.
For everything else, there is no difference.

[Anonymous No.5008969]

>>5007945
It's a artist pro 12, so the only cable is the cable they provided.

It connects fine to my laptop.
And it connects fine to the usb in the front of PC.
But when it connects to the usb in the back of PC, it starts having this issue.
That works fine before without issue.
I have no idea what happened.
Probably windows updates broke it, but i don't know which one and how to fix it either.

[Anonymous No.5009029]

>>5008456
the shift key

[Anonymous No.5009036]

>>5008068
yeah wacom is announcing the single cable / usb-c tablet line

[Anonymous No.5009045]

>>5007817
Reinstall drivers to troubleshoot.
Otherwise you may have to trial and error with the cable or contact support if it's still under the warranty. If you didn't register the warranty, too bad so sad?

[Anonymous No.5009144]

Has anyone used the Wacom inkling? Is it any good? Cousin's trying to pass one onto me for $30

[Anonymous No.5009182]

>>5009144
> pass onto me

wait ... is it unsolicited, or did you ask him/he knows you're in the market for that sort of stuff? If it's unsolicited, that's a dick move. Punch him in the face the next time you see him. Trying to pawn your useless shit on family for money is low like getting into MLM and then selling to your family and friends.

Feel free to screenshot so you have something to show him when you punch him in the face for being a dirty dick.

And no, inkling is a piece of shit and not worth $30, another reason to punch him in the face.

[Anonymous No.5009212]

should I get it?

[Anonymous No.5009245]

>>5009212
>eBay
it will be literally broken in half

[Anonymous No.5009247]

>>5009212
> not learning from another artist who regrets going with a screen tablet

sure. you know what they say about fools and money

[Anonymous No.5009258]

>>5009247
> not learning from another artist who regrets going with a screen tablet
what was said, i dont lurk here often

[Anonymous No.5009280]

>>5008969
>And it connects fine to the usb in the front of PC.
>But when it connects to the usb in the back of PC, it starts having this issue.

One of the ports on your PC failed.

[Anonymous No.5009286]

>>5009212
Don't mind Chang here: >>5009245 >>5009247
He just wants you to buy Chinese.

That Wacom One looks fine, and the price is good. If you're on a small budget, go for it.

[Anonymous No.5009302]

>>5009286
That is racist, I'm not handsome brother Chang you speak of but famous youtube celebrity Rutten. Huion is best products!

[Anonymous No.5009404]

>>5007411
depends how comfy you are with your current setup, how frequent you draw and it's complexity or detail of your digital drawing/painting. I was using a 6.9 inch with an old Adonit pointed tip pen but buying a tablet with S pen was a leap in real estate resulting to a faster workflow.

[Anonymous No.5009407]

>>5007647
check if the keyboard is removable

[Anonymous No.5009774]

>>5009212
>wacom one
fuck no.

[Anonymous No.5009949]

>>5009212
Worse than chinkshit

[Anonymous No.5010036]

>>5009212
Wacom one is a line I'll never recommend.

[Anonymous No.5010059]

My housemate is an artist and wants to get into digital art, what tablet should a beginner to digital art with the following prerequisites?

>price limit £350 / ~$460
>has a display
>connects to PC and can use software installed on it such as photoshop

Haven't posted on /ic/ before so if you hate new posters my apologies.

[Anonymous No.5010296]

>>5010059
Artist pro 15.6

[Anonymous No.5010422]

I'm looking to buy a tablet. I'm a beginner and don't really wanna spend that much. I have been looking at the wacom Intuos S/M. My budget is around 100€ but can be a bit more if it's actually worth.

What's your opinion? I see a lot of people crying in reviews because wacom pencils are shit now and they miss their old wacom bamboo. Also, I'm not sure if the difference in size between intuos S and M is worth for the +70€ difference, more if I'm just a beginner.

[Anonymous No.5010467]

>>5010422
Also looking at HUION HS610, it seems it has more pression levels, tilting and is bigger than intuos S while being cheaper (54€). But haven't heard good things about HUION

[Anonymous No.5010500]

>>5010059
Artist pro 15.6 or Kamvas 16 are the only things good in your price range. A few hundred more and you can get something better but since its not for you a third party tablet should be fine.

[Anonymous No.5010514]

>>5001944
He’s been drawing that way for years.

[Anonymous No.5010535]

Is Samsung Galaxy tab s6 lite good for drawing?

[Anonymous No.5010569]

Kamvas 13 good for Motorola phone (9.0)?

[Anonymous No.5010687]

>>5010059
How good is your housemate at troubleshooting tech? tablets at that price range are prone to all sorts of technical difficulties not to mention issues like parallax and color inaccuracy and working area size, which are usually major hurdles of someone coming from trad.

From personal experience, someone with your friend's background should probably skip display tablets all-together and go with an ipad or samsung S6 lite or stick to trad media.

[Anonymous No.5010691]

>>5010535
sure

[Anonymous No.5011065]

Anyone know any better deals for the ipad pro? Is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.5011089]

>>5011065
>better deals
good luck, apple does not throw good deals. never used it so i cant say if its good

[Anonymous No.5011108]

>>5007891
>the only things the Innovator has that's better
The Innovator has the newest pen PA5 whereas the 15.6 pro normally comes with the older PA2. The difference between the 2 stylus is that the PA5 supposedly has a better activation force - wether it's even perceptible, reviewers don't seem to notice it. I have the Innovator 16 and I like it but if you can find the 15.6 pro for 300$, I agree that it's probably not worth spending an extra 100$ just for that. I can't really comment on the Innovator because it's my first display tablet. It's better than my (quite) old screenless wacom intuos just for the sake of being way bigger. Since you are used to a 4 X 6 surface, going to a 13.5 x 7.6 should feel very good, the display's slightly bigger than an A4 paper.

[Anonymous No.5011112]

I did this in procreate, what could I do to make it look less like blocks of color and more like an actual painting?

[Anonymous No.5011134]

>>5010422
>>5010467
I'm here again, Just bought an intuos M for 127€.
Found a really nice offer. Hope it's worth

[Anonymous No.5011135]

>>5007891
> i feel like now is the time

lol wut? This is a terrible time to buy screen tablets, maybe you should do some more digging because you'll find that screen tablets aren't worth it right now. Questionable durability, color rendition, poor parallax, poor software. Calm down, stop watching so much youtube, and go back to drawing. Your coronabux don't disappear at the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.5011140]

>>5011112
controversial i know but how about adding details?

[Anonymous No.5011416]

>>5011108
how’s the screen brightness+color accuracy on the innovator 16?

[Anonymous No.5011425]

>>5011108
>>5011416
the pen is only different in a cosmetic sense, it's all the same inside.

activation force is tweaked with the tuning screw on the inside, If yours is stiff you can fine tune it by hand.

[Anonymous No.5011432]

>>5010467
>Also looking at HUION HS610,
It's good and it is actually better than an Intuos NON-PRO.
Hell it's probably still better than an intuos Pro too by the virtue of not being fucking tiny.

[Anonymous No.5011642]

>moved recently
>planned on bringing my old Cintiq 13 inch hybrid tablet in luggage but a mix-up made the (extremely proprietary, discontinued) charging and link cable end up in the moving van with my desktop and main tablet
>all that shit is like 3 weeks away, and I've been here for 2 weeks already
I'm going nuts without digital art. Is there anything inexpensive that I could use as a backup in the meantime? Any attempt to find a third party charger for the hybrid has turned up nothing.

[Anonymous No.5011663]

>>5011642
there was someone who was in your situation about 10 months ago, you can contact wacom support and they'll help you out.

[Anonymous No.5011669]

>>5011663
It's not of much help unless I can get a charger (outside of the US) by next week since I know where the charger is, it's just inaccessible until the moving van shows up.

[Anonymous No.5011710]

>>5011112
Add more blocks retard

[Anonymous No.5012025]

>>5011134
what a waste of money

enjoy I guess

[Anonymous No.5012115]

>>5010059
>>5010500
thanks

>>5010687
Pretty garbage with tech, which is why they asked me to research this for them. Some great info here, I'll let her know of the possible issues and then she can make the decision her self. She'll end up sticking with trad media in the long run, she just wants to try it for fun.

[Anonymous No.5012303]

>>5012025
care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.5012399]

>>5012303
Non pro intuos arent very good. Tried one back in March this year. Pen is thin and feels cheap, surface is rough and bites hard on the nib if you want to do quick consecutive strokes on a single spot, and the surface area/pressure levels are smaller than tablets going for half the price. Wacom hates cheap customers, and they can afford to lose your custom if you get pissed. They mainly sell to studios with bulk orders.Selling "affordable" shit to "beginner artists" is only for good PR, they really will punish you for cheaping out. Even the non pro cintiqs fall short in specs while still being twice the price of competition.

http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?t=2469

I have a cintiq pro 24 coming in soon, so I wont be seeing these kind of problems. But its fucking expensive and wacom are as bad as if not worse than apple. Im having to pay 80 euros for an arm adapter, aka a bit of metal that cost them 5 euros to manufacture.

[Anonymous No.5013251]

This is driving me fucking crazy, does anyone else have weird jitter on photoshop when using an intuos pro with wintab instead of windows ink? It happens randomly when i'm slightly zoomed out. Windows ink fixes the problem but its shit, I cant tell if this is a new wacom driver issue.

[Anonymous No.5013286]

>>5013251
... so why dont you just install an older driver? Its not like its a security patch lol.

[Anonymous No.5013308]

>>5013286
I don't feel like spending an entire day installing and reinstalling random versions of a driver when I have no idea which one would work if any at all.

[Anonymous No.5013360]

>>5010422
Xp-pen deco pro is precisely what you need

[Anonymous No.5013368]

>>5013360
The S size will be large enough. It's cheap, good response, good pressure,good pen,some tilt, cheap, nice size working space. I don't care much about the buttons but they're there. The wheel is nice but sticks out. Doesn't have multi touch but you'll never use it

[Anonymous No.5013372]

>>5013368
Wacom S is totally shit. Don't even bother buying a tablet at all if you're not going to buy an M or M pro, unless you want wrist surgery with a year.

[Anonymous No.5013380]

>>5013372
Ah I was referring to the xp-pen deco pro s, which is more like the wacom intuos pro m in size

[Anonymous No.5013383]

>>5013380
So that might work out a lot better for anon in size!

[Anonymous No.5013397]

>>5013383
Lol I don't understand anymore which one of the two and which size you are referring to now

[Anonymous No.5013595]

Thinking about dropping 280 euro on a wacom intuos pro medium for my first ever tablet.

[Anonymous No.5013649]

>>5013595
That’s a good price. Are you getting it new or used?

[Anonymous No.5013735]

>>5013649
>Good price
Nice, it's new! Feels a bit ridiculous to drop this amount on a hobby I haven't started yet haha. You can find the (black friday) deal on coolblue and MediaMarkt BTW. Need it to write math, splurged because I want to start drawing

[Anonymous No.5013790]

has anyone tried drawing on this thiccpad x220 tablet? just wondering the drawing performance

[Anonymous No.5014097]

>>5000956
I got my S6 Lite a few days ago and I must say it works fine, I'm in love with Clip Studio Paint and how versatile it is. The pen is really nice but it didn't come with replacement nibs and since I put a matte screen protector for that paper feel, I expect it to wear down faster.
Honestly it's better than an entry level iPad because it works really good for a low price, comes wit the pencil and if you don't like it there's many options to choose from since it uses wacom's technology so you don't even have to charge it!
The size is just right, I can multitask while drawing, the colors are superb and the sound is amazing (not that it's relevant for illustrating but it's a nice touch)

[Anonymous No.5014161]

>>5011642
As someone who just got a hybrid cintiq second hand, do you know if the battery can be replaced for under 200 fucking dollars? Or if the device can be rooted to get newer apps?

[Anonymous No.5014380]

just ordered an artist pro 15.6 bros
cant wait

[Anonymous No.5014393]

>>5013735
Next time spend at least a little bit of time doing some research.
The new intuos pro line are tremendously overpriced (as always) and have a printer ink design in the form of nib wear. They figured it was a stupid business decision to have a perfect tablet that lasted for 10 years because thats essentially losing a customer for a decade. So theyve designed new nibs that burn to shreds, but dont worry! Theyll sell you premium replacements!

[Anonymous No.5014607]

>>5014393
Oh I read this wasn't much of an issue as people say it is. But if it's true, aren't there any decent cheap off-brand tips available?

[Anonymous No.5014615]

>>5014607
There are, but the catch is that for a nib not to be burned down it has to be harder than the surface. And if the pin is harder than the surface, the surface will wear down instead of the nib so youll generate a big smooth patch where your pen activity is, surrounded by the normal papery surface. If that doesnt bug you then fair enough, go for the 3rd party nibs. Or you could buy a smooth texture sheet for the cheap price of 40 euros.

[Anonymous No.5014631]

>>5014615
Ah ok, thanks. Yeah the price for the texture sheet is ridiculous. A lot of people suggest putting paper on top of your tablet, what do you think about that?

[Anonymous No.5014633]

>>5014393
Hm, should I return the Wacom to replace it by an xp-pen then?

[Anonymous No.5014651]

>>5014631
That could work. I havent tried it myself but Ive seen folks recommend it. Hopefully it wouldnt have any effect on the pen reception
>>5014633
Dont get me wrong, the intuos pro will work just fine, its a great tablet. But so are the ones at a 7th of the price that dont have that meme paper texture that emulates the worst aspect about drawing (your pencil wearing down) and without the opportunity to fix this for free (sharpener)

[Anonymous No.5014860]

>>5014651
I see you point. Currently it's 2.8 times the price of a xp-pen deco pro. Do you think the wacom is more than 2.8 times as good?

[Anonymous No.5014869]

I’m a beginner.
I'm looking for a non-display tablet under 100 usd with a caveat of Linux support (drawing in Krita).
I was thinking of an Intuos S, not pro.

[Anonymous No.5014880]

>>5014860
No. You shouldnt be spending more than 120 euros on a non display tablet nowadays. Ive used an xp pen deco pro and it felt great, but It still had the paper like texture which I personally dont like. The rest worked fine and the nibs lasted far longer than the new wacom ones. I prefer the smooth surfaced tablets that huion releases. Look into the h1161, looks pretty decent.

What I dont get is, Wacom could easily justify the price of the intuos Pro by having the same etched glass surface they use on their cintiq pros. It feels nice to draw on but doesnt burn your nib. But, they wont, because then they lose your repeat custom.

[Anonymous No.5014885]

>>5014869
Get a medium sized chinkshit tablet instead.
Far more bang for your buck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmKvPUsbFg

Never touch the cheap wacoms, ever.

[Anonymous No.5014914]

>>5014885
Aren't these kinda not very durable?

[Anonymous No.5014924]

>>5014914
Well it depends what you want to do with them I suppose. If you plan to throw them around the room then no, itll scratch up and break.

If you just sit it on your desk and draw on it itll last years. If you have to move it, transport it in a protective case. I use an old t shirt and wrap it in that when I need to take it to work.

[Anonymous No.5014955]

>>5014924
Hmm I'm considering a Huion 640p now. Like I said I'm just starting out and it's mainly for doodling a bit for myself, dipping my toes in the water... the active area being small isn't really that much of an issue with the non-display tablets, right?

[Anonymous No.5014959]

>>5014955
If you wanted to transition to screenless from traditional, itd be easiest for you to have a tablet whose working area is close in physical size to your display. So that a 1cm movement of your nib = 1cm line on your display. But a size match is hard to get, even with a large non display. That being said, you will get used to whatever you begin to use, especially if you have no prior experience. Your brain will just map out new muscle memory. Generally id advise to go for at least a medium, since on a small youd be stressing your wrist quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.5015332]

>>5014869
Xp Deco line is usually under 80. I have an 02 on its 3rd year, going strong.

[Anonymous No.5015649]

>>5014880
I am reading that surfaces with friction help with drawing

[Anonymous No.5015666]

>>5014880
Ah, I guess you are right. I'll return the device. I am thinking about getting the deco pro then instead (the paper texture seems nice to me and if the nibs are cheap then why not)

[Anonymous No.5015669]

>>5014869
Xp-pen has Linux drivers, check the models page from their website you're interested in

[Anonymous No.5015688]

>>5012303
You're fine. The guy who replied to you is a chinese shill, who hates it when people buy non-chinese.

>>5013360
Hello Chang.

[Anonymous No.5015694]

>>5015669
I've decided on a Huion 640P, also seems to be supported by Linux with settings available in KDE.

[Anonymous No.5015699]

>>5014607
>Oh I read this wasn't much of an issue as people say it is
It isn't. The chinese shill replying to you is exaggerating as usual.
>>5014633
XP-Pens are awful and suffer from pen jitter, dysfunctional tilt and hard tapering.
>>5015666
>falling for the chinese shill's shilling
>>5015332
Still complete and utter garbage too.
>>5015694
It will also have severe line wobble, wobbly nibs and nasty tapers.
You let Chang fool you.

[Anonymous No.5015705]

Huion hs610
yes or no
I’m on a budget here

[Anonymous No.5015706]

please please please buy a wacom. I'm begging you

[Anonymous No.5015717]

>>5015705
Nope.
If you're on a budget, get an Intuos 3. Still used in the industry, extremely reliable, and won't have to work around wobbly lines like you do on a chinese tablet. Still plenty of them on Ebay for only $40.

[Anonymous No.5015743]

>>5015705
get xp pen deco pro. ignore the chinese wacom shill

[Anonymous No.5015756]

>>5015743
>projecting your chinese heritage onto others
Yep, you're still a complete idiot alright, Zhang.

[Anonymous No.5015766]

>>5015756
do you get paid per post or per hour Chang?

[Anonymous No.5015768]

>>5015706
I thought the non-pro Wacoms were shit

[Anonymous No.5015774]

>>5015768
please just buy one anyways

[Anonymous No.5015779]

>>5015699
>It will also have severe line wobble, wobbly nibs and nasty tapers.
Idk I spent a few hours on reviews before deciding and they all seemed pretty good.

https://digitalarttabletguides.wordpress.com/2019/02/23/huion-h640p-rereview-2019/

[Anonymous No.5015803]

>>5015706
Why why why? Seriously, give me some arguments that justify multiples in price and maintenance. Youtube is full of shills, but I hope at least here there is some good reason that people are pushing wacom so hard

[Anonymous No.5015805]

>>5015803
please just buy one
china is bad
so what if wacoms are made in china? its the sentiment that counts

[Anonymous No.5015807]

>>5015805
What

[Anonymous No.5015810]

>>5015699
>It isn't
Please tell me why it isn't an issue? I am kind of worried that the surface will get worn out now, and I'll be constantly buying nibs. Do you have a source for good cheap nibs for example?

[Anonymous No.5015815]

>>5015810
It's only an issue for those who apply heavy pressure all the time and draw like sperglords. If you meet that criteria, then just use a paper cover.

[Anonymous No.5015817]

>>5015807
please buy Wacom

[Anonymous No.5015833]

>>5015815
That's a relief. I would like to have a a consistent experience that doesn't slowly degrade forcing me to adapt my workflow; like a regular pencil vs pencil pen if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.5015927]

>>5015705
Yes. You don’t need bells and whistles for screen less. It should be comfy. Comfiest you can get under 100 is the Deco pro.
I highly doubt the person who named the 02 is a shill since that’s one of the lesser popular from XP but it is a solid device with a scroll wheel and express keys like most other tablets.

[Anonymous No.5016001]

>>5015805
pretty sure its made in Japan

[Anonymous No.5016027]

>>5015803
Who's pushing Wacom? Most of this thread is one angry chinese shill pushing XP-Pen and Huion.

Nobody shills the Intuos 3 because there's no commercial reason to do so, even though it's a great tablet and amazing value. Wacom doesn't profit because the market is used/refurbished.

[Anonymous No.5016072]

>>5016001
all non pro wacom are made in china
that should be expected though

[Anonymous No.5016083]

>>5016027
How can it still be a great tablet if specs have moved so far beyond its capabilities? How can it be amazing value when even second hand they go for double the alternatives? Look I am considering buying Wacom for its reputation here but you guys give me little to go on, and the specs and prices don't speak for wacoms

[Anonymous No.5016089]

>>5016083
What specs? Pressure levels? That shit means nothing. The only thing that matters is pen performance.
An Intuos 3 is $40 on Ebay, and the pen performance is far better than any chinese knock off brand.

[Anonymous No.5016107]

>>5016089
Oh wow I thought they actually did matter. What specs actually do matter then? Tilt? Rotating? Which models would you consider? I am looking at intuos 3's and yes they're cheap, nice.

[Anonymous No.5016115]

>>5016107
none of them do, they're just fucking numbers that have no real-world correlation
the only thing you'll fucking notice (presuming you aren't a ham fisted beast) is initial activation sensitivity.

[Anonymous No.5016128]

>>5016107
Pressure levels won't make your drawings look any different, it's just a meme spec for marketing. 1024 levels is all you will ever need.
The stuff you have to pay attention to is stuff like line jitter and tapering. Webm related here >>5001602 is the latest and most expensive XP-Pen on the market, and it still can't manage a straight diagonal line without wobble.
Idk if Wacom still owns patents for their pen tech, but Wacom pens are still the industry standard for drawing performance. Only the Apple Pencil can match it.

[Anonymous No.5016139]

>>5016115
Cool thanks so what model would you rec then? Intuos 3? Pro? Seeing intuos 3 a5 format for €60

[Anonymous No.5016153]

>>5016128
Thanks, this helps

[Anonymous No.5016156]

>>5016139
You replied to Zhang, he's always going "fucking this! fucking that!" ( >>5016115 ). He'll recommend you an XP Pen, but it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.5016163]

Thinking of getting the Huion Kamvas Pro 24 since it's on sale. what are people's experience using huion's tablets or more specifically that model?
I'm already a screen tablet user, my current tablet is the Yinova m19u (i think) which I got back in 2013. It has a glass screen but no anti glare or texture so its similar to drawing on an android tablet. I've used cintiqs before in studios and at school and I don't like the screen too much. How would the huion screen feel in comparison?

[Anonymous No.5016174]

Hey /ic/, I'm looking into getting a tablet for the holidays and learning to draw in 2021 and I've been looking into getting these two tablets:

Artist Pro 12: https://www.amazon.com/XP-PEN-Artist12-Pro-Full-Laminated-Battery-Free/dp/B07VZF7ZC9

Wacom PTH660 Intuos Pro:
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-digital-graphic-drawing-PTH660/dp/B01MQU5LW7/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=tabletunderbudget-20&linkId=4fac7c0ea884e444eb3ac0a5904b5750&language=en_US

Of these two, which is better? If none of these are good, what should I get instead? My budget is around $450.

[Anonymous No.5016175]

>>5016089
Can you still use it on modern systems? I read that you somehow cabt use them with adobe anymore

[Anonymous No.5016246]

Holy ok that's it I'll return my new intuos pro and buy a used intuos 3, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5016260]

>>5016175
They work perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.5016393]

>>5016174
Go for the Intuos on this one. The XP may seem tempting because of the screen, but as your first tablet, you should aim for something comfortable to get you used to the experience. The 12 is too small, so unless you opted for the 15.6 pro (also good) it would eventually affect your posture and comfort when working.

A screen less first will let you sit back and not hunch over the tablet to work,

[Anonymous No.5016973]

>>5016246
Did this and got a good as new with package intuos3 for €50 including postage! Happy, feels good to do this. If it works anon earlier saved me hundreds. I'll work on linux manjaro and Windows 10 mainly, but far lesser extent on osx, let me know if anyone needs to know anything about how well the intuos3 works on any of those OS's

[Anonymous No.5016985]

>>5016973
pyw
not an attack just curious

[Anonymous No.5017004]

>>5016985
Never done anything digital, and drawing has been so long that I cannot even find a doodle atm

[Anonymous No.5017005]

>>5016985
What made you curious?

[Anonymous No.5017008]

>>5016973
Well it's obviously a minor risk since the last driver updates were like 5 years ago for Windows, so I would probably strongly suggest disabling Windows Update if you're using W10 cancer to avoid accidentally fucking up your drivers which happens quite frequently, but I'm not sure to what degree it's fixed by Wacom and not the developers for the programs. Since linoox drivers are made by people in the community, I'm assuming that updates will be fine as long as they're being actively developed. And I think Mac may be a problem. But I think that it will be a while before it causes any issues and usually it's down to the programs themselves to fix things because I've heard that other people are also still using the older Intuoses

[Anonymous No.5017016]

>>5017005
i just want to see what someone touting specific products can do
obviously its not conclusive evidence of anything but im interested

[Anonymous No.5017023]

>>5017016
Not them but Wacom's basically the industry standard and iirc Feng Zhu uses an intuos 4. The only thing you have to worry about are the cheaper tablets but companies like XP Pen etc must be super confident if they send that stuff to extremely popular artists like Yueko and Ryein who then draw pieces on it and review it.

[Anonymous No.5017026]

>>5017023
He still uses the intuos 3.
You can see the stylus when ever he lifts up his hand on his videos.

[Anonymous No.5017035]

>>5017026
Oh that's sweet

[Anonymous No.5017038]

>>5017026
That guy is a fucking machine, honestly. But I'm certain that screenless tablets draw just as well as screened ones and you don't need to uh, deal with your whole screen randomly dying or ergonomics problems. Imagine buying an uber awesome cintiq only for the whole screen to die and then having to send a cintiq through the freaking mail or something to get it repaired like what happened to kawacy, that's a big yikes. And an anon on /ic/ found a way to fix it via some technical jiggery pokery which I honestly do not think I am even capable. And then I saw someone say on discord that their screened Huion died.

So yeah, display tablets are something that I just don't trust. And if Feng can draw that well with a screenless, I can sure bet that it's enough for me.

[Anonymous No.5017056]

>>5017023
> super confident

> they’re just getting paid. look into the fake/paid tablet review industry on youtube. disregard fake youtube artists, stick with what’s actually being used in the industry.

[Anonymous No.5017064]

>>5017056
They're not youtube artists, retard, they're twitterfags.

[Anonymous No.5017066]

>>5017056
(cont)
I was also there for the livestream that Yueko made of them drawing with it (just to make sure that Yueko wasn't a tracing faggot), so I'm certain that they actually used the tablet when they drew with it.

[Anonymous No.5017073]

But the weirdest thing is that yueko and notryein are all/were major Fire Emblem fanartists so we can deduce from this observation that maybe if I get good enough at drawing FE fanart I can also get free shit from XP Pen.

[Anonymous No.5017078]

>>5017038
Wish more people had your insight. Most new artists think that a screen is a must but they’ve really only been viable the last 8 years or so vs screenless which is going on 30. if it was perfected you’d have a huge conversion wave, that’s not the case. Working artists are sticking to what works, screenless are ergonomic, you dont have to worry about color accuracy or parallax issues, screenless are faster since communication is one direction, and (at least with the intuos3) the build quality is top notch.

[Anonymous No.5017091]

>Budget
100 bucks
>Location
Western Sahara
>Type
non-display
>Size
Anything that is not too small
either Medium or big
>Previous equipment
mousey

[Anonymous No.5017095]

>>5017066
dunno what you're talking about but source of video?

[Anonymous No.5017105]

>>5017078
Twitch livestream. A few things you need to know about twitch:
A) They only keep the VODs for a very short period of time. I never bother downloading the VODs and sometimes they get uploaded to youtube or bilibili or some shit but most of the time they don't which means if you missed it you're fucked (and it won't even end up on cgpeers or cgpersia so if you like an artist then make sure you rip it before it fucking disappears forever)
B) Actual livestream is likely in an RMTP type format and they inject ads into the broadcast so if you want to watch a stream make sure you use the developer version of uBlock or you'll be fucked when you watch a stream and miss half of it because of the ads every 5 minutes. I keep having to write my own adblock rules every time I visit that cancerous site so most of the time I don't even fucking bother
C) The last time I tried to find a VOD downloader it took me like 5 hours and I'm pretty sure I literally had to give that piece of malware my username and password in order to "download" the VOD
tl;dr FUCK twitch and FUCK artists that use it
And the last time I watched that particular Yueko livestream she didn't do anything interesting, I think she just patted the line for like half an hour and probably went off to the toilet or something and never came back

[Anonymous No.5017106]

>>5017095
Twitch livestream. A few things you need to know about twitch:
A) They only keep the VODs for a very short period of time. I never bother downloading the VODs and sometimes they get uploaded to youtube or bilibili or some shit but most of the time they don't which means if you missed it you're fucked (and it won't even end up on cgpeers or cgpersia so if you like an artist then make sure you rip it before it fucking disappears forever)
B) Actual livestream is likely in an RMTP type format and they inject ads into the broadcast so if you want to watch a stream make sure you use the developer version of uBlock or you'll be fucked when you watch a stream and miss half of it because of the ads every 5 minutes. I keep having to write my own adblock rules every time I visit that cancerous site so most of the time I don't even fucking bother
C) The last time I tried to find a VOD downloader it took me like 5 hours and I'm pretty sure I literally had to give that piece of malware my username and password in order to "download" the VOD
tl;dr FUCK twitch and FUCK artists that use it
And the last time I watched that particular Yueko livestream she didn't do anything interesting, I think she just patted the line for like half an hour and probably went off to the toilet or something and never came back

[Anonymous No.5017120]

>>5017095
I don't think that Yueko even really wants to be an artist anymore so much as a furry vtuber so enjoy the furry vtuber AWOOtism
https://www.twitch.tv/yueko/videos?filter=all&sort=time
https://www.youtube.com/c/yueko/videos

[Anonymous No.5017123]

>>5017120
yo mr twitch wizard man
i know this is unrelated to the topic but
do you know a place where I can rewatch old twitch streams?

[Anonymous No.5017126]

>>5017123
I think they just get deleted because it would otherwise cost Twitch a lot of money to keep up. I don't really watch twitch so I don't know! Maybe someone's out there archiving deleted urls like what happens with 4chan or reddit or something. I think they'd just axe the whole video as well as the url though. But try with twitch leecher or something? https://github.com/Franiac/TwitchLeecher/releases <- not sure if this program is really trustworthy but the last time I tried it I think it looked super shady and had weird UI but it seems to be all cleaned up now

[Anonymous No.5017128]

>>5017123
(cont)
I'm reasonably confident that twitch leecher can only grab what's in the videos section of twitch, that is if it still works.

[Anonymous No.5017130]

>>5017126
Near
Hopefully i could find some of soft_don streams that i missed out last month

[Anonymous No.5017131]

>>5017130
Just check the video tab maybe and try the leecher.

[Anonymous No.5017133]

>>5017130
(cont)
Also your streamer might also upload em to youtube

[Anonymous No.5017135]

>>5017120
vtuber shit is gay but its nice seeing tablet reviews / hands on from someone that isnt a shitty comic "artist"

[Anonymous No.5017136]

>>5017133
He doesn't lol
that last thing he uploaded was a speed paint for the super mega podcast years ago
he doesn't re-upload his streams

[Anonymous No.5017143]

>>5017135
I didn't even realise Yueko was doing it with not her normal tablet when I was watching the stream, since they were just drawing it. Anyway, I wonder how many other artists got those tablets and reviewed 'em, outside of my little sphere of artists I stalk because I need refs.

[Anonymous No.5017144]

>>5017136
I feel like artists try not to stream at all or have it up for a long time in case someone reverse engineers a very successful way of replicating their drawing process like what happened with Shexyo and CSR.

[Anonymous No.5017148]

>>5017143
which one (tablet) are you talking about?
whats her regular tablet?

[Anonymous No.5017152]

>>5017148
She got sent some kind of XP pen https://twitter.com/yueko__?lang=en you'll find it if you scroll through miles of her twitter you should also find what she drew with it. I found what she normally uses, she posted it here https://twitter.com/yueko__/status/1205318691941838848

[Anonymous No.5017153]

>>5017144
Woah
I get it
also isn't replicating one artist a bad idea? its more preferable to use multiple artists as inspiration
and I have a feeling that Shexyo is just photobashing

[Anonymous No.5017154]

>>5017153
Replicating other artists is what I got most of my gains from. That's why Master Studies are done so often in art schools, because you can literally suck another person's art style and figure out their way of thinking by trying to be like them.

>I have a feeling that Shexyo is just photobashing
I think he just traced because otherwise your lineart would be pretty dead.

[Anonymous No.5017240]

>>5017154
Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.5017242]

>>5017120
what the fuck?

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[Anonymous No.5017244]

>>5017136
Why not?

[Anonymous No.5017246]

[Anonymous No.5017256]

>>5017246
Still the best.

[Anonymous No.5017258]

[Anonymous No.5017259]

>>5017240
photobashing tends to make thing messy and then you'll have to redo the lines ontop so it's easier just to draw it or trace it first and then render it out I think, especially as the art isn't perfectly 1:1

[Anonymous No.5017260]

New thread:

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[Anonymous No.5017292]

>>5008456
Simple, don't use photoshop, it has no stabilization.

[Anonymous No.5017299]

>>5017038
>>5017078
A screen tablet is a third monitor, and with 1080p or higher res, I hope you have a 2000 or 3000 series RTX card to power all those displays.

[Anonymous No.5017311]

>>5017008
thanks dood

[Anonymous No.5017314]

>>5009144
Keep your $30. It's not any good.
I found the drawings would often come out skewed, or missing strokes (usually because the way I held the pen blocked one or both of the IR sensors). Could not recommend. The battery in mine burst but good riddance desu.